/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

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OP IS A FAGGOT
DELETE THIS THREAD

>>86952717
webm for anon

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What is she, /swco/?

>>86952757
Right on time

>>86952757
This does not make up for your repeated tardiness in past threads

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For racing.

>>86952789
Wouldn't the blast from the engines fuck up the pilot?

>>86952806
space fantasy

>>86952789
>Quadinaros went from total scrub to top tier racer rivaling Sebulba
You did good
Also Han is a huge Quadinaros fan and named his son after him

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>>86952731

Ezra said "month" last episode. Are months now canon or were they already?

>>86952876
Is time canon?

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>>86952816

>>86952884

WHY ARE YOU MOCKING ME I JUST ASKED A QUESTION REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>86952899
sorry

>>86952908

but seriously a month is a breakdown of a year which is one rotation around our sun. there a tons of planets and suns in the SW universe. has there ever been a canon breakdown of how time is measured?

>>86952806
the pods are on the side and the leads are relatively long.

Realistically it'd probably still be shit for the pilot but at least it's not directly in front of them.

>>86952933
I think I remember it being mentioned that Coruscant is usually used as the galactic basis, so everyone just goes by however long a day/month/year is there

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>>86952933
https://youtu.be/cto9_9qNHZ0?t=3m54s

https://youtu.be/sM_ZpTwSwuw?t=3m47s

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this episode gave me mix feelings, it made the Empire look menacing for once, but letting the Rebellion get Wedge is a huge fuck up if you imagine how many he kills later.

>>86952967

seems like this guy would not have approved the term month and it slipped passed him. or maybe there is some sort of agreed upon time set in the universe. it just stuck out to me immediately when i heard it because month is such an earth specific thing.

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Nobody asked for it, and yet here it is.

>>86953086
autism.

>>86953086
For what purpose?

>>86953102
Cause I felt like it.

Whatcha gonna do about it, fagget?

>>86953086
Yay, my post made it.

>>86953086
Han being an actual famous racer in Canon makes it more funny. It legit makes more sense for Kylo to be named after Quadrineros.

>>86953214
>"Luke, come see your new baby nephew"
>"Aw, he's adorable! What are you naming him."
>"I talked it over with Leia, and she's okay with naming him Ben."
>"Wow, you're going to honor Old Ben Kenobi? He was very important to me, I'm touched."
>"Huh? Ben Ke-who?"
>"...Ben Kenobi. The crazy old man who hired you to take us to Alderaan?"
>"Oh, that guy? I completely forgot his name was Ben. No, I named him after the podracing champ."
Ben finding out he was named after a walking booger was the moment he snapped.

What are some good Legends comics

>>86953301
There's a recommendation guide in the OP

>>86953304
It's just a list with everything under the sun, no discriptions even

>>86953330
I see. I hadn't personally seen it myself. I haven't read many Legends comics, so I really am not the best to recommend anything, but I am sure others are

>>86953330
Titles in bold are the ones that are recommended.

>>86953338
>I haven't read many Legends comics
delete this

>>86953377
I read lots as a kid. Was a gateway into the EU for me. I remember being blown away by a comic where Kit Fisto smooches Aayla to save her life.

But as I grew older, I found the Legends comics were increasingly uninteresting to me

>>86953403
>Kit Fisto/Ayla
What now?

>>86953437
They go to Kamino to investigate a traitor Kaminoan.

Culminates with Aayla being tossed into the ocean, but Kit Fisto dives in to save her. Being Amphibious, he "breaths for her", and smooches her until he gets her out of the water. It was pretty blatantly romanticized as a kiss.

>>86953403
>But as I grew older, I found the Legends comics were increasingly uninteresting to me
I hope you're not implying that Keiron Gillen is a better author than John Ostrander.

>>86953582
>cherrypicking the absolute best of the EU to make Canon look worse
Anon come on. I absolutely loved the Vader comic, don't try to belittle it just because you liked a Legends comic more. If I wanted to play that game, there are many dozen retarded things in the EU I could have chose to shit on.

>>86953617
The comic you mentioned from Legends was written by Ostrander, I think.

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>>86953668
Oh. Huh.

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For fun I'm writing an Only God Forgives remake script set in the SW universe. You guys want me to post when it's done?

So far the God character is a Neimoidian Jedi with a vibroblade and it's on Coruscant.

>>86953721
>vibroblade

>>86953730
Make canon great again

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>>86953741

>>86952990
>It was a bad call, Vader. It was a bad call.

>>86952731
It's that Mon Mothora?

>>86953772
Twi'lek Trump has a bit of Ric Flair in him

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>Thrawn heavy Rebels TOMORROW

By the force my DICK

>>86953301
I would say:

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - it takes place before the video games and has ties to them, and is a pretty good story

Star Wars: Republic - this story takes place during the prequels and is really great for prequel fans. Halfway through the series it enters the Clone Wars time period, and the main character of the comics is Quinlan Vos, but there are many story arcs that focus on other characters.

Star Wars: Legacy - a story that takes place like 130 years after the OT, and follows a new cast of characters, with the main character being a descendant of Luke Skywalker. I liked the story and all the new characters in these comics, and it has some nice ties to the Star Wars: Republic comic series as well.

>>86953668
Dude, he said he really liked that one.

>>86954089
yeah, maybe he'll actually do something of consequence this time instead of being a waste of air time.

>>86954501
>Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
>Star Wars: Legacy
Great

I haven't read Republic but I think I'll pick it up

>>86952757
The world may never know

ded thread

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>>86955248
Oh, he'll do something of consequene alright. Thrawn will give us the finest art critique

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Daily reminder that Barriss is better than Ahsoka.

>>86956398
Obviously.
She's better looking and smarter as well.

You have become a Padawan. Your Master is taking you to get your first kyber crystal. What is the color that the force has picked out for you?

You can have different shades of colors too, like cyan, sky blue, navy blue, etc.

>>86956678
Piss yellow

>>86956678
I'll take the pink one. He said as he jammed his sword into his master vagina.

>>86956678
Orange easily

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>>86956718
>>86956767
Your lightsaber colors so far as determined by The Force.

>PT Bail Organa and ROTS Mon Mothma actors in Rogue One

SAVE THE PREQUELS
SAVE THE DREAM

>>86956939
Now make a puke green one
Its my favorite shade of green

>>86956678
Cobalt

>>86957021
>PT Bail Organa
>PT Mon Mothma
>PT Era Jedi Statue
>TCW Saw Gurrera
>Rebels Hammerheads, a design reused from Legends
>All the new characters, locations and Vehicles (excluding the AT-ACT) are completely original to Star Wars and interesting

Finally, some non-OT fanservice. And in the OT-Era Star Wars movie of all things too.

TAKE NOTE JJ, YOU SMUG FUCK. THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED FROM NEW STAR WARS MOVIES!

>>86956678
red

sorry master I'm not very good at this

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>>86957023
Best I can do.

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>>86957081
>>86957121
More colors for /co/ through The Force.

>>86956678
Navy Blue.

>>86956678
Green.

>>86956678

Purple!

>>86957157
why is the activation switch on the puke green one a different color?

>>86957409
Not him, but possible runoff?

>>86956939
>>86957123
>>86957157
You know, these handles, the Obi-wan/Luke variety, are my favorite lightsaber hilts. It sucks that the FX replicas and toys all make the narrow portion just as thick as the rest of it. I understand from a practical standpoint why they CAN'T make it more accurate and have the toy still function properly, but it messes with me something fierce.

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>>86957282
>>86957389
>>86957394
Your colors.
>>86957409
Just a matter of overlaying and not paying attention to get shades.

>>86957460
Can't be worse than the old ones in the 80/90s that weren't even Blue and were just White.

>>86957479
No, obviously not.

>>86956678
>>86957463
Well shit all the good ones are gone.

Some burgundy I guess. I would say white but that feels dounut steel.

>>86957609
You know you can have the same color as someone else right?

>>86957707
But that's not the fun part of this exercise.

>>86957463
Diarrhea green

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>>86957463

Yaaay!

brown

>>86957902
qt

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEHQhIlyDw
>KYLO REN REACTS - Rogue One Trailer 3 (Final Trailer)

>>86956678
Gold nigga

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Why do people have to keep stealing Mads away from his norse highlands?

>>86952731
What is with the number of inhabitable worlds with exactly one type of eco-system. Can't be a a forest or desert or ice all the fucking way around it.

>>86958786
Wouldn't you?

>>86956678
Cerulean.

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>>86958811
well, ya know what. maybe

>>86958459
Pretty funny though at this point the whole "Who fucking makes that huge a design flaw" has been done to death.


Though I guess the movie with Jyn's father being the designer will reveal it was done on purpose.

>>86958786
You mean from slinging dope in Copenhagen's Slav-infested criminal underground?

>Det var din mor.

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>>86957609
>>86957835
>>86958707
The Rainbow Padawans of /co/

>>86958880
Wasn't it something about a Wookiee slave engineer not putting the hatch n because he was sick that day? Also self-erasing blueprints used by the head designer whom the Emperor later executed. Then reanimated to work on the DS2 while being repeatedly killed, badly, and reanimated. Because of course you use that particular guy as a tested for your Force-reincarnation. Won't affect his performance at all.

>>86958923
As long as "Cerulean like your eyes, Master" gets my borderline Grey Zeltron master to savage my ass with her strapon, it's all good.

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>>86958990
Your Cerulean is the first blue.

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>>86958960
Not canon

>>86958920
>Det var din mor

Found it:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKw_KEGgano

>>86959029
And I'm very happy about that.

>>86959012
And a fine cerulean it is.

Is cerulean the number one Mary Sue eye color?

>>86959065
Green is, its more rare for eye colors.

>>86956678
Sky blue

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>>86959158
Here ya go.

From here on out, I'll just compile anybody else that posts and posts them all as one and we can figure out who the Jedi/Sith among us are.

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I really love this figure.

(sorry if the photo is sideways, my phone doesn't agree with 4chan)

>>86959319
with the pose, the sorta dutch angle actually works.

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>>86959319
He's real friggin tall compared to the other black series figures

>>86959297
Wasn't there a website to do this in 3d with hilts to choose? Or did that not have a good colour selection?

>>86959030
>Den är kanon stor

>>86959349
Well yeah but we'd have to customize the hilt too
He's just organizing the blade colors

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>>86959349
is it this?
http://www.saberparts.com/

and if it is then this is mine

>>86959415
>>86959349
You lads thinking of this one?
http://www.saberparts.com/#/configure

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>>86959342

>>86959440

sure is

>>86959342
>>86959319
>>86959453
It's like 7.5 inches compared to the usual 6 right?
I'm thinking about getting it

>>86959453
>Clone giving a Clanker a piggyback ride
HERESY

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>>86959349

Not making your own from scratch, some Force-user you are.

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>>86959430
are we posting sabers now?
Here's mine

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Just finished reading the Legacy comics, both volume 1 and 2
Damn, this feels like a good last hurrah for the old Star Wars canon, galaxy is finally at peace again from the 130 years of near constant warfare since the Clone Wars and the Sith are pretty much completely wiped out.

Did you guys like the Legacy comics at all?

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>>86959558
But I prefer to make fighters.

Too bad I don't have a good SW one ready as is.

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>>86959627
I went into them expecting Cade to be awful and make me drop them but I ended enjoying it quite a bit
I also enjoyed Deliah Blue if you know what I mean

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>>86959687
I really liked Krayt and Roan Fel, which was really unexpected to me. Honestly Krayt feels like one of the most fleshed out antagonists in the Legends. Survived the Clone Wars, survived the Vong Wars, all the old Sith lords hate him and his ideas and he managed to accomplish more than them in a shorter amount of time before he ya know, died.
Armor was pretty baller too

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>>86959627
Reading Legacy Vol 2 again makes me see the Parallels to TFA, except I enjoyed the comics more. Shame we couldn't get more out of the Legacy Era or finish the Dotj comic.

>>86958880
I hope not, that'd be retarded

>>86959828
He was pretty neat
At one point I wondered if Snoke was something like Krayt but I doubt it now

>>86959912
I'm still holding on to Snoke is Plageus
Something about a old Sith waiting for like, 75 years to seize power even after old Palpy killed him sits well with me.
Hopefully they steal from Legacy more and let the Sith die with Kylo or Snoke

>>86959959
I'm liking them not being Sith at all but being a different kind of Dark side user

>>86959959
>let the Sith die with Kylo or Snoke
Don't the sith die with Vader and Sidious in nu canon

>why would it have such an obvious design flaw?
What's obvious is you don't attack a 120km battle-station that can destroy a planet and otherwise has a firepower greater than half the Imperial Star Fleet IN A FUCKING FIGHTER. And it wasn't obvious, they had to specifically steal the blueprints to find it, and they were grasping at straws going with the weakness they found because they had no time to search for a way of attacking that was less stupid.

>why have a shaft leading right to your power source?
Because it's an exhaust shaft. You need a route for emissions from your power source to leave the vehicle (battle station). It could have used a more circuitous path (and doubtless the second Death Star's would have) but a straight line is far more efficient.

>why was it unprotected?
It was ray-shielded. Nothing short of a torpedo was getting through. And for people launching torpedoes, it had several towers with turbo-lasers protecting it, as well as a complement of fighters. And if it hadn't been for the Force, those defenses would have been more than successful.

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

>>86960084
It can easily be changed, just like with the Nightsisters

>>86960084
Kinda?
Palpatine gave up the Rule of Two in favor of One, being himself forever.
Krayt and all his followers are the same in that they call themselves the One Sith and all dark side users answer to the One Sith, being Krayt or whoever is most powerful
And after Legacy, pretty much every Sith/Dark Side user is dead

>>86959453
>Onwards my trusty clone steed!

https://youtu.be/erd8d21VHWA

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>>86960258
I recognize that robot!

>>86960258
That's adorable

>>86959627
I'm a big fan of them, but generally speaking people on 4chan dislike it mostly because of Cade and Krayt
Legacy vol. 2 is a hidden gem though

>>86960163
The great battle at the end of Legacy vol. 2 was a bad idea overall, but that was after EU wipe, so I can't blame the writer

>>86960258
God I love Alan Tudyk.

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Vote pls
http://www.strawpoll.me/11429176

Just so you know, almost one year after TFA, /tv/ is still making threads about Rey being muh Mary Sue

Jesus what a bunch of retards

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>>86959959
Nah, Snoke is a Whill. His kind have meticulously recorded the history of the galaxy by peering through the Force, and are the ones who wrote the prophecy of the Chosen One. Snoke is a renegade Whill with a will of his own (pun sort of intended).

>>86961681
She is though.

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What went wrong?

>>86961681
Are you implying shes not?

>>86961765
Snoke is the Son anon.

Maul will release him after trying to seduce Ezra and turn him to the darkside at the same time.

>>86961770
War.

>>86961681

Because she is.

>Outflies two TIE pilots trained from childhood with no copilot in a ship that's about 60 years old, when Luke almost got shot down by one in a dedicated dogfighter with help.

>Beats Kylo Ren despite losing badly because she can use the force with no training, despite Ren beating the shit out of both her and Finn before.

>Immediately liked by Han Solo, a man who threatened to throw Luke out the airlock when first meeting him, because she can now dictate to him how the falcon works.

You can go MUH FLIGHT SIM or MUH CHEST WOUND but that doesn't change what happens on screen.

>>86961790
>>86961808
Does anyone have the /tg/ green that describes her and Fin as characters in a session?

It was pretty funny and accurate.

>>86961804
The before pic is the one on the right though

>>86952757
A forced meme.

>>86961765
>>86961790
>>86961808

My point is, can't we get over it ? Yeah she is, if you want. There's plenty of characters like that in Star Wars, is it that important ?

Anakin won a podrace, flew perfectly a Naboo starfighter for the first time, and destroyed a Droid Control Ship, at age 9.

>>86961808
>Outflies two TIE pilots trained from childhood with no copilot in a ship that's about 60 years old, when Luke almost got shot down by one in a dedicated dogfighter with help.
The characters abilities are completely at the whim of the writer and change according to whatever dramatic moment they want at the time. TIE pilots have always been shit, except when they need to put the main characters in danger.
>Beats Kylo Ren despite losing badly because she can use the force with no training, despite Ren beating the shit out of both her and Finn before.
See point above.Darth Vader is an ace pilot, a man capable of taking out entire fleets and armies on his own, a master of the Force, and he gets taken out of a flight because some nobody surprised his wingman.
Also you don't need to train to actually use the Force.
>Immediately liked by Han Solo, a man who threatened to throw Luke out the airlock when first meeting him, because she can now dictate to him how the falcon works.
This is actually a good reason for him to like her. A lot of shit's been done to his ship, and she's the only one he has around that knows what's been fucked up. He gets rid of her, he can't fly his ship.

Rey isn't a good character because TFA, like all the other Star Wars movies, isn't a very well written movie.

>>86961928
>Anakin won a podrace, flew perfectly a Naboo starfighter for the first time, and destroyed a Droid Control Ship, at age 9.
Yeah but hes the chosen one. It's even established in that very same movie

>>86961808
I know,
>TVtropes
but here's a list of elements that make a character a Mary Sue, as agreed upon by the general public:

- Personality? What personality? In these cases, it's fairly blatant the author is just writing the character for amazing stuff to happen to instead of a character that actually exists as a person. Obviously, this is only a Mary Sue trait if what happens gives the character special powers, fantastic romances, or somehow lets her be a big damned heroine; otherwise it's just another faceless first-person perspective.

- The personality of a Mary Sue - if she has one - is not nearly as important as how other characters react to it. No matter how shy or socially awkward Mary Sue is supposed to be, other characters will be drawn to her and inexplicably prefer her company over that of anyone else, all of her ideas are brilliant, all of her jokes are funny, all of her advice is an amazing breakthrough, people will trust her immediately, or very quickly, and feel more comfortable talking to her than to anyone else (even their own family or their significant other) even if she hasn't done or said anything to make them feel that way about her.

- If another character doesn't feel this way about Mary Sue, it's usually to portray them as either bad or just an idiot.

- Mary Sue doesn't have to actually do anything to be considered a good person, she just is good and by extension anything she does is good and even when she does nothing she brings more good into the world simply by existing than any other character ever could. Goodness just seems to seep out of her body like radiation.

>>86961808
The one that got me the most was that she understood Wookie.
How the fuck does she know Wookie? She's never left Jakku.

Rey just didn't face any problems from lack of knowledge or expertise.
She passed every skillcheck she faced. That makes for a poor protagonist

- Highly persuasive, regardless of the actual content of their conversations. Everyone finds her opinions are just better than their own - even when they're usually stubborn bastards.

- Incorruptible. In fact, unaware of the possibility of temptation.

- Her "major flaws" will be stubbornness and a bad temper. These will only ever help her, never hurt her — because she's always right, so whatever cause she dedicates herself to with such stubbornness will be a good cause, and whoever she loses her temper with will deserve it.

- Unjustified I Just Want to Be Normal: Being super awesome is a curse. Now in a franchise like X-Men, a character can find their awesomeness a curse, but at the very least it's because mutants are feared and their powers can cause them serious problems. The Mary Sue, on the other hand, will claim she wishes she was normal even when there's no actual downside to her powers.

- Regardless of what skill level the canon characters have established, she might just simply be better than them, often in ways that do not make sense. Not to mention that if she isn't already skilled at something, she'll pick it up in a fraction of the time required - if she even needs to learn them at all. She/he may have powers similar to what the other characters have, only with all of the downsides and limitations removed.

- Speaks several languages fluently. This can vary depending on the setting, of course. A modern-day diplomat is expected to know at least one or two other languages, but a 14-year-old peasant girl in Medieval Europe shouldn't speak Japanese and Hindi fluently. It's much worse if it includes animals. Bonus points if an alien lands in her backyard and she can communicate instantly (provided it doesn't speak the language already).

>>86961928

Anakin fumbled and hit the torpedos by accident and his fighter was on autopilot. He didn't do it perfectly himself.

>>86961928
>Anakin won a podrace, flew perfectly a Naboo starfighter for the first time, and destroyed a Droid Control Ship, at age 9.

And TPM was worse off for it

- Absurd natural athletic ability - she can run like the wind without ever having worked on her running, and has impossibly high acrobatic skills.

- Bonus points to all of the above if Mary Sue is a poor orphan.

- Turns out to be the offspring of a canon character. (She may be related to a canon character in some other way. This can be the explanation for a Copy Cat Sue. And why spend chapters explaining why the heroes accept a total stranger into their midst so readily, when they can just shout, "Luke, I am your sister!")

- Previously-established personalities change in reaction to her. Arrogant gimps may admire her for everything. Sweet, mild-mannered characters (that she and the author don't like) insult and degrade her. A leader with responsibilities pays attention only to her. Young, reckless characters who would never settle down just yet will become totally reliable. Evil characters follow her around like a puppy or seem uncharacteristically obsessed with her. Extremely competent characters become stumbling buffoons who require her help to do anything. The characters in general just seem unnaturally focused on her, positive or negative.

- Mary Sue is always on the Spotlight-Stealing Squad. Without her, there would not be a story.

- She's The Chosen One. Even if the canon hero is already The Chosen One, she either 'shares' the position or just steals it away from them.

- Mary Sue has an unusually Dark and Troubled Past to the excess, just to emphasize how brave and special she is to live through it. This past is never really a point in the story, just dropped casually into the conversation to get attention.

>>86961928
Little Anakin flying the fighter and saving the day was shit.
Just because there's shit precedence it doesn't mean it's not shit.

Besides, it's partially balanced out by the fact that we know he will fail and fall and become Vader.

We don't have that type of foreknowledge with Rey.

>>86961940

Luke didn't get hit by Vader, he got hit by a random TIE pilot. Random TIE pilots were able to kill most of the death star pilots with Vader only coming in late game. He may have the most PERSONAL kills but the rest of his squadron did more than enough to be dangerous.

And yes, you need to train to use the force. Heir to the Jedi has Luke trying the same mind trick with no training, and he doesn't get it no matter how many times he tries, and that shit's canon.

>>86961943
>chosen one
Well that and he's been racing for a while before TPM, he just didn't win before.

>>86961943
So, throwing out that a character is "the chosen one" excuses him for being a "Mary Sue" ?
It's probably even lazier than saying "well she just knows how to do that kinda stuff", it's literally "well that's because he's Jesus"

- She will often have a tragic family life. Coming from an abusive background is quite common. Her mother is often either dead or a Wicked Stepmother. In the latter case, she will most likely be in Cinderella Circumstances. Her father is frequently an Overprotective Dad (or in some cases, a Wicked Stepfather). Orphans are also very common, as is Parental Abandonment.

- In these kinds of stories, the past is where any and all potentially interesting aspects of the Sue's adventure remain trapped. By making all the hardships and struggle over and done with at the start, she has no more room left to grow as a character. Ideally, a backstory should help explain things like a character's motive and/or how they acquired certain skills or items. A good author puts a relatively ordinary person into an extraordinary world and sees them steadily go through and react to all this pain and conflict over the course of the plot and develop into a stronger person bit by bit. A Mary Sue author skips that, with their character starting out as a badass and ending up as the exact same badass.

- In fantasy canons, she can break the Rules of the World at will. Often, nobody will even be surprised.

>>86961947
>>86961970
>>86962001

That's bullshit. That doesn't sound anything like Rey

>>86961965
>The one that got me the most was that she understood Wookie.
Eh, this one bugs me less after I watched the tcw episode where Ahsoka converses with Chewbacca

>>86962014
>Besides, it's partially balanced out by the fact that we know he will fail and fall and become Vader

No, it's balanced because we had Hayden "creepy staring is acting" Christensen playing him later.

>>86962039
>So, throwing out that a character is "the chosen one" excuses him for being a "Mary Sue" ?
yes

>>86962039
Yes, and?

Two things are capable of being bad writing

>>86961947

That's what happens though.

Reys personality doesn't matter. She just stumbles from one amazing scenario to the next. She stumbles from saving BB8 to killing TIE fighters to saving Han Solo ect. ect. She gives a couple of one liners about how easily she can redo the Falcons problems and how great she is at whatever skill is needed and suddenly Finn is head over heels and Han loves her like a daughter.

>>86962050

Ahsoka is a jedi. Jedi knights are expected to act as diplomats and study full time in jedi duties. Her knowing a bunch of languages makes sense.

That and, y'know, there are Wookiee Jedi she has to communicate with.

>>86953683
>mfw my whole life I've wanted nothing but to be a pilot and fly aircraft
>mfw this episode connected with me in big ways
>mfw this episode is my favorite out of the entire series and the scene where she flies the b-wing made me smile so much my jaw hurt

>>86962037
>Luke didn't get hit by Vader, he got hit by a random TIE pilot. Random TIE pilots were able to kill most of the death star pilots

>The characters abilities are completely at the whim of the writer and change according to whatever dramatic moment they want at the time. TIE pilots have always been shit, except when they need to put the main characters in danger.

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>>86962133
You and me both brother. That episode was great.

Becomming a private pilot is relatively simple though, just costly. I'm sure you'll make it one day.

>>86962039

The thing is, Anakin fails in ways Ahsoka does not. Anakin lags behind because he isn't trained which lets Darth Maul catch up and fight Qui-Gonn. Anakin barely holds his own in a dogfight because R2D2 is helping him. Anakin takes some serious shit in a podrace before he wins.

And that's AFTER the movie builds him up as being good. Which is the difference. Luke is hyped up in the movie as being a promising pilot. So is Anakin. Rey has nothing but an old helmet and we're meant to INFER that this scavenger somehow knows how to fly, becasue reasons. Those reasons being she somehow has a realistic full enclosure flight sim fully powered somewhere inside that one room shack built from an old walker.

>>86961624
Blue isn't my favorite color but it's the classic Lightsaber color

>>86962140

TIE pilots are rarely shit in the OT. They wreck the fuck out of red and gold squadrons in ANH and Han Solo barely escapes with his life in ESB. They blast the fuck out of a bunch of fighters in ROTJ.

TIE fighters being shit is something that was built up by fans after the fact, it's never displayed in the films themselves until Force Awakens.

>>86962183
>get the fuck off that ladder bitch you are blind do you even know where you are right now? jesus fuck who left that canopy open you cant fucking fly aircraft you retard your going to drive straight through the fucking wall holy shit why are we letting women into the rebellion again

>>86962133
>>86962183
Guess that makes three of us.

>>86962190

Shit, I meant Anakin fails in ways REY does not. Anakin has legitimate problems Rey never does.

>>86962190
>becasue reasons
That reasons is that Jedi are good pilots.
It's the screenwriters being a little blunt about it.

In Star Wars, we are told that Anakin and Luke are similar in two ways.
They're both great pilots and strong in the Force.

The TFA writers used Rey being an inexplicably good pilot as foreshadowing for her affinity for the Force.

>>86962227
In Rebels, TIE Fighters are lethal when not attacking the main characters. They completely wrecked an entire convoy without taking any losses.

>>86962227
Not bad considering the flying coffins

>>86962279
That's not the only ability she has that she presents inexplicable skill in though.

>>86962279
>in the OT and PT we're told that someone is a good pilot
>this is good movie making
>in the ST we're shown that someone is a good pilot
>this is bad move making

So it's true, to Star Wars fans "Show don't tell" really does mean show people a lot of text and make them read it.

>>86962279

Except that the thing is that Luke needed friends to vouch for him and he does his piloting without the force until the very end. Anakin is described as using the force but podracing is obviously meant to give him experience and skills that can transfer.

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>>86962255
kek

>>86962263
The pilot thing makes for a terrible addiction.

Well I honestly didn't expect for Aphra to get away.

>>86962294
>ywn be a tie advanced pilot
>ywn max out the throttle and kick the afterburners and fly so fucking fast the whole ship shakes
>ywn fucking blast over a town so hard that it rips womens clothes off
>ywn have to slow down becuase you are going to fast you are leaving a plasma trail like a ship reentering the atmosphere
>ywn whip corners around tall buildings going over a thousand miles an hour
>ywn feel the need for speed
>ywn be the top gun tie pilot

>>86962319

It's called character establishment you mongoloid.

If a character is established as being good and then is good when SHOWN, as the previous movies do, it makes sense. If a character is made amazing at something they're never established as even having done, it makes no sense.

Snoke is Maul

>>86962318
Hey, I didn't say it was good writing, just that it was explainable.

>>86962347
>ywn have to scramble to the flight deck to launch from your ISD becuase there's an undentifed ship closeing to within missile range
>ywn get into a weaponless dogfight with x-wings
>ywn fly up right above one, flip upside down and take a picture of the pilot while flipping him off

>>86962344
Vader basically let her get away. If he wanted to make sure she was truly dead he'd chocked her there and then and not throw her out an airlock.

>>86962353
Snoke is broke
Nigga's a joke
Flowin in the force
Like a Sith's gotta toke

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>>86962347
>ywn be a seperatist ace
>ywn fly a space P-38
>tfw there won't be a redesign that makes it look better
It hurts.

>>86961681
But she is a Sue?

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Reminder that it has been scientifically proven that Rey is a Mary Sue.

>>86962041

>Super tragic backstory
>Raised by an abusive junkdealer
>Never actually changes and develops as a character
>Instantly learns shit that explicitly took Luke and Ezra YEARS to do.

>>86962658
Reminder that only autists give this much of a shit.

>>86962349
there's many ways to establish a character, and just what you want to do with it. You either start with other characters saying someone is good at something, and then showing it, or you start off with your character doing that thing they're good at, and then other characters comment on it. Typically the bad things are shown first so that the comments can show that there's more to your character than just those bad things. Good things tend to be talked up while the character goes about showing other aspects of themselves. These can of course, be changed.

Both establish the character effectively.

The problem with Rey is not that we're shown she's a good pilot first, that's fine. The problem is that we're not given a contrast of something negative about it, or her.

>>86962687
Where do you think you are?

>>86962294

The "flying coffins" thing is mainly because of shitty directions and shit like life support that doesn't directly affect dogfighting.

>>86962693
>That feel when, no matter how much you try, /swco/ will still be an autistic shit hole that will bitch and moan about anything

I'm starting to think that I don't actually like Star Wars.

>>86962693
Kamino?

>>86962708
To be fair, it's something site-wide, with some places worse than others. Like /a/.

It's never easy being the smartest man in the room.

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>>86962708
>I don't actually like Star Wars.
So your are a true fan

>>86962711
Eleven, quit posting on the holonet and get back to the training ground. Your squad is undergoing inspection.

>>86962734
/a/ is the same its always been. /v/ and /tv/ are probably the worst by far.

>>86962737
>>I don't actually like Star Wars.
>So your are a true fan

This, you know you're a real Star Wars fan when you hate it.

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>>86962760
Fuck ya'll banthas, its lunch time.

>>86962787
87, that is unacceptable language, please report to Sector 6 for reeducation.

>>86962770
This thread is evidence. Things were nice and civil until /tv/ and 'mary sue' were brought up

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>>86962819
I'm gonna make my own Cloning Facility, full of Twi'leks and Sabacc.

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>>86962838
These thread are normally good fun and discussion until someone brings up TFA or Rey
I personally it the same shit stirring autist everytime

>>86962708
No one hates Star Wars like a Star Wars fan, so you're doing it right.

I wonder if anyone that knew Jango but never heard about his death ever saw a Clone and tried talking to him as if he was Jango.

>that british A-Wing pilot
>killed instantly by bugs
For what purpose?

>>86962947
Unlikely considering how many people were at the arena
But that would be a funny little short

>>86962990
The Jedi and Clones had no reason to reveal it to the public that Jango had died, nor did the CIS. The Geonosians probably didn't give a fuck either.

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>>86962947
Do you think Boba got triggered when he saw a clone after his Dad was killed?

>>86962875
It wasn't me this time.

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If Anakin overthrew Palpatine and didn't become a mutilated cyborg, wouldn't it arguably be worse than Sidious ever ruled all things considered?

I just imagine everything falling apart to his childishness.

>>86963026
The galaxy knew Jango had died on Geonosis. Those who closely knew Jango were aware he died. For one, Boba exists.

>>86962658

I ran Rey through the same test and got a 135. That's still double the threshold for maximum with plenty left over though. But I don't assume motivation from writers either way.

>>86963083
>Imperial boycott on sand
>24/7 podracing on the HoloNet

>>86963083
Anakin has no knowledge on how to manage a government, much less an Empire. What he needs to do is promote synergy.

>>86963083
He'd probably appoint someone to run the government while he did his own sith thing trying to become more powerful
Maybe attempt to revive Padme

>>86963083
Well there was that what if scenario if Anakin had teamed up with the Son. He'd have killed everyone including Yoda/Sidious fighting together, and brought like eternal darkness over the galaxy.

>>86963083
Sheev made the galaxy better, so yeah, if Anakin was in charge it would go to shit even more so than what it was during the Republic.

>>86963162
There was?
I wish instead of more bland canon comics they'd just go ahead and start a what if series

>>86963107
I did a "nice run" where I didn't check a lot of boxes that could be "explained away" and I got 47, which is super high still.

>>86963196
1. Turning Point: Having turned Anakin to the dark side by showing him visions of his future, the son cements his position on Mortis by retrieving the blade that killed his sister...and slaying the father with it! Mortis, already overrun by the dark side, begins to fall further into ruin and despair.

2. Loose Ends: Twisted by the visions of his future self, Anakin is overcome with grief, rage...and a new sense of purpose! All he cares about is returning to the galaxy...and tying up the loose ends that refuse to bow to his whims. Loose ends like Obi-Wan and Ahsoka! In the cave of the dark side, with lava all around, Anakin casually disarms and abandons his former Master to the fiery depths. At the ship, Ahsoka is not quick or quiet enough to escape his flashing blade!

3. Back to Reality: It doesn't take long for Anakin to fix the ship, now that he is free of...distractions. Soon he -- and the son, tagging along back to the physical universe -- are headed deep into the heart of the galaxy, with only one thing on their minds, order. True order, born of conquest and fire! Only when Anakin is the undisputed ruler of the galaxy will either of them know peace...

(cont)

>>86963214
4: Yoda & Sidious - United: Anakin and the son's first stop is Coruscant. Yoda and Darth Sidious can both feel the unstoppable malevolence in the Force -- and for the first time in an age, the Sith Lord feels fear. The Jedi Master, too, knows that Anakin is a challenge that must be met and conquered quickly, or he risks losing everything!

The unlikely pair meeting Anakin and the son on a landing platform, all pretenses dropped. Combat is engaged. Force lightning flickers everywhere, and blades of crimson, green, and blue flash in the Coruscant rain. But Anakin, imbued with the very essence of the dark side, is too powerful for these Masters of good and evil. He strikes them down, and grows even more powerful than before. Jet-black storm clouds swirl in the skies and refuse to clear, and Coruscant is plunged into eternal night.

5: Emperor Skywalker: Without pausing for breath, Anakin stalks through to the Senate, which is in session. With a crushing display of inhuman power, he casts down whole swathes of floating Senatorial pods, and levitates himself onto the central dais…where he declares himself the ruler of a new Galactic Empire.

The son watches and is pleased…Order will be his…Forever.

>>86963179
You'd think that would've been one of the first parts to go in, along with the weapon system just to make absolutely sure that the Genosian plans weren't complete bullshit.

>>86963246
Even if the plans turned out to be BS, the Empire would have still had a mobile battle station to act as a base away from Coruscant, or to invade planets with much more force than a ton of ISDs.

>>86963214
>>86963232
That is neat
What's it from anyway?

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>>86963246
The weapon system is what took so long to perfect

>>86963291
Two pages in one of The Clone Wars books if I recall. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

>>86962183
Wow I just realized the pilot in that art is a Miraluka

>>86963209
Rogue One is such a pretty movie

>>86963302
but seeing as the entire thing is built around said weapon system, in fact it is the whole purpose of the facility, why would you start building it without the key part?

>>86963354
>>86963302
>>86963256
I really just can't bring myself to care about Rogue One.

>>86963365
That's why you put the framework in, as seen in Ep3, to build everything else around it so it fits when it's ready.

>>86963386
But you'd do that when you knew the thing would work.

Other wise you'd have a space station with a giant gaping hole in it, and built around systems that were made for a giant laser.

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>>86963386
Exactly

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Kevin J. Anderson made an overall positive contribution to Legends.

Jedi Academy and Darksaber were bad, but no worse than Dark Nest, Legacy of the Force, or Fate of the Jedi. Also, Young Jedi Knights and Junior Jedi Knights are cute and are the only books that have ever given the Solo kids distinct and consistent personalities beyond "everyone makes wisecracks 24/7."

>>86963083
Vader becoming the leader of the Empire is the same as a Mob bosses brutish second in command finds himself in charge of the family. All he does is end up killing everyone and everything that could have helped him hold control, burning down everything he'd been instrumental in creating.

>>86963407
space fantasy

>>86963484
>The dish is in already

>>86961770
More like what went right?. The pic on the right is when he was younger.

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>>86963541

>>86961770
I don't know the context between these two images

>>86963113
>Anakin builds the Death Star
>Just to blow up Tatooine

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>>86963541

Anyone hoping that Saw will reference TCW directly and mention that his sister died?

>>86963952
I hope he talks about the Clone Wars with Jyn, seeing as that's when she was born

>>86963952
His sister was kawaii desu

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>>86964273
You're kawaii anon

>>86962431
This is the most retarded thing I've read in days. Being thrown out an airlock in the middle of space is a death sentence. Even in Star Wars. He thought she was dead and gave her the most cruel of his death because she betrayed him. He would've given her a Force choke but she evaded it before and he wasn't taking chances. This isn't the first time he did something this nasty to someone. See Rancid in Tarkin.

>>86964360
>being thrown out an airlock in the middle of space is a death sentence
Kanan, Plo Koon, and probably some other third entity I can't think of would like a word with you.

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>>86952757
Good to see someone tried

>>86962708
It's actually a lot more tolerant and bitch free here. Visit real Star Wars sites for bitchfests and whine. the wook forums use to be unbearable. The EU purged united them all.

>>86964431
kek

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>>86964431
Wow
We're getting interdimemesial

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>>86962968

>>86964435
This.

Someone complaining about this place being whiny should try going to other forums. They're even worse.

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>>86964431

>>86963083
I actually believe he would've been a better ruler than Sidious. Anakin actually cared about order and stability. Even peace. Sure, Anakin is very cruel but he doesn't hold a candle to Palpatine. It's necessary brutality. He would have appointed Mas or other people like Tarkin to rule the Empire politically and militarily. If you look at the lore now, Sidious did not give a single fuck about the Empire and as soon as he started to rule, he started to slip further away from it doing his Sith experiments. The Vader comics and even A New Dawn mention he's fucking up and getting weak.

>>86964101
Maybe have Malbus be there too and get some first hand stories on the Jedi.

>>86964424
Kanan wasn't in the middle of Space like Aphra. Also, he was still holding on to the station. Plo Koon and the Clones had minimal life support gear and were rescued not long after they got blasted in space. Aphra was ditched in the middle of space with no hope of survival (for Vader to see).

>>86964498
I'm not even trying to meme. Before I discovered 4chan, I use to frequent all the big Star Wars sites and the flamewars that went on in canon make this place seem like Peewee's theater adventure. People were divided on the PT and OT and you could not pick sides at all. EU continuity problems were unbearable fights. Here, you can actually say I like AoTC or Legends sucked without getting downvoted (not talking about Reddit) or tag teamed into oblivion.

>>86964424
>>86964654
If we want to take Legends into account he did the same shit to Starkiller.

>>86964360
>Tarkin
And Tarkin himself outdid him in the same novel when he was still a young officer and send a crew of pirates directly into the sun and transmitted their death screams through the whole sector.

Approximately 9 hours until Thrawn time.

Praise be, our illustrious hero.

>>86964706
Same. I was pleasantly surprised when I discovered that 4chan, the site that is always said to be "a bad place" actually had the most natural and non-chaotic discussions.

>ywn be interrogated by a qt imperial governor with a big bust

Next Pryce episode when?

>>86964982
Because all the cancer left and became either hacktivists or deepweb scum.

>>86964982
/b/ gives the site a bad rep

>>86964431
The world may never know

>>86965097
I just scrolled through /b/ for the first time in like 7 years and you know what? It wasn't even that bad.

>>86965166
/b/ definitely is tamer than it used to be more often than not, but it gave the site a bad reputation

>>86965045
>ywn fix her stupid fucking hair and make her look half way decent

>>86965097
>>86965166
>>86965255
/b/ is way different now
all the oldfags left by 2012 when the shitposters and whatnot had taken over to ruin 7/10 of the threads
Then most of them left once there was only shitposting
Now there's a few stragglers and a bunch of new 14y/os trying to be edgy
But mostly it seems to be porn now
I haven't visited in a long time

>>86964431
>Pablo knows the meme
He know what he did
He knows what she is

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Is this what Earth will look like in 3000 years?

>>86965656
We'll never last that long

>>86965656
It'll look like Mars does now.

>>86963871
so that's the bullshit explanation for "we didn't know we would make this movie eleven years ago.

why can't these people just say the real reason for this shit?

Kallus revealed as nu-Fulcrum when

>>86965656
Who's to say that's not how Earth looked 3000 years ago

>>86965656
We'll look more like Alderaan post ANH.

>>86965706
I mean
I wasn't there so I can't say it didn't for sure
But there's no evidence to say it was

>>86965706
WE WAZ KANGS etc

>>86965687
Why can't you let go of your anger towards someone trying to make things easier to accept?

>>86965811
how is jumping through hoops like that, when it's clearly shown there's nothing in the hole in the trailer, instead of just saying "yeah we didn't know, sorry"?

>>86961928

literally none of that is true, Anakin lost tons of races to the point of not even finishing before the others showed up. Was on auto pilot and accidentally blew up a ship. Even your examples are shitty and biased.

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>>86965687
It's an explanation, but it isn't bullshit

>>86961928

>bring it up
>tell other people to get over it like you're not biased and blindly defending your waifubait

uh huh

>>86966034
See, that one actually explains it. >>86963871
Doesn't

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Reminder that if you think Rogue One looks bad then you are a closet /pol/tard.

>>86966034
It makes more sense that the dish is inserted last around the edges anyways. The fuck is it even connected to in RotS? Why would you build the dish but not the components that connected and power the dish? RotS makes the Death Star look like it was constructed backwards, no wonder it has a critical design flaw.

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>>86965837

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Canon Novels

Haven't we been over this RotS/R1 Dish Debate before? You can clearly see the outline of where the dish will fit in RotS, its not actually there, just like you can see it fitting into that same spot during the R1 trailer.

Like are people this blind or oblivious to details like that?

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Canon Comics (updated today)

>>86963083

Anakin would use people like Padme, she would hate it but the galaxy would be better off simply because his wife is one of the galaxies better politicians.

>>86966224
>Quinlan Vos with Asajj

I get mad every fucking time. Vos fucking sucks and was undeserving of her.

>>86966250
People like being stupid unironically.

>>86966250
It's cute that you think shitposting about something back half a year ago would never see the light of day again considering one movie from 10 months ago is enough to fuck the thread up.

to be fair we haven't heard much about the previous death star construction areas, more in particular "the maw".

>>86966323
Apparently.
>>86966334
Sometimes I don't even think its shitposting and just legit stupidity.

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will he outlive obi wan?

>>86966299
Not like Obi-Wan and her ever would have happened

>>86966395
He's going to be the hero of episode 8
He's going to show up and Kill all the new cast members then it'll be 45 minutes of his insane rambling and threatening random people

>>86966253
>Aphra getting her own solo
>inb4 her being so popular will cause them to hook her up with Luke
How mad would you be?

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>When the parents of Milo and Lina Graf are abducted by agents of the evil Empire, the children must undertake a perilous journey across the unknown reaches of Wild Space to rescue them – and to discover hope for the future.
Haven't read it yet, but is there any explanation as to why the parents are "abducted", or is there no reason and the author needed the empire to look like a bunch of evil baddies?

>>86963365
Read "The Manhattan Project" by Stephane Groueff sometime. Facinating book.

They actually set about designing the atom bomb at the same time they were building the facilities for processing uranium at the same time they were figuring out how the hell to process uranium. If they had done all the steps in order instead of at the same time, it would have been another 5 years before they had a bomb. As it was, as soon as they finally managed to make enriched uranium, everything was already ready for it.

>>86966253
Kanan's still ongoing?

>>86957460

parksabers com/mkiii.html

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>>86966428
>Aphra is the canon Mara Jade
>that was her grave Luke was standing in front of at the end of TFA
>Kylo killed her "I will finish what you started"

>>86963485
>Young Jedi Knights
My very first EU reading. Comfy memories.

>>86966495
No.

>>86966502
>Aphra was so hot for Vader cock she went right to his son
Pottery

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I'm watching the Wedge episode of Rebels right now and is the Imperial commander the same one from Battlefront 2?
They sound exactly the same.