New Avengers Vol 1 Storytime (Part 8)

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Yes, I'm obviously joking about "everyone's favorite".

>>86890668
Hey i love them together

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>>86890706
Don't read the new Jessica Jones book

>a throwback alias episode

Is this the one with trump in it

>>86890706
kill self

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In case it isn't obvious, don't be fooled by the opening "Secret Invasion" at the front cover (like I was), this takes place BEFORE the actual invasion.

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>>86890786
Don't be rude Anon. Poor taste isn't terminal, he can get better.

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>"Really? Try walking in there, see what happens when a bunch of super-villains crash through the front door."

Funny story. The Avengers HQ had been fucked over many times. We've already read World War Hulk, so we know at least one of them.

I admit, my own readings of Defenders haven't passed the point where we stopped reading last time, but I haven't seen Strange's Santcum Santorum get wrecked yet. They're probably safer there.

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Could be worse, I suppose. They could live with the X-Men.

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>"I could take all those fucks in there there!"

Luke, I like you, I do. But Ares would smack your shit so hard, Danille would feel it.

>>86890869
Why does it have to be either the Sanctum or Avengers Tower? Why not just move out of New York and go live in the suburbs or something?

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Wonder Man over there could also kick his ass too. Hell, I'm pretty sure Carol could give him a good fight too.

>>86890950
>Carol could give him a good fight too.
Carol would definetly wreck his shit.

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He could PROBABLY take Jessica Drew though.

>>86890950
>Sitting in a cell next to Marvel Boy
Why is Ms Marvel making such an oddly specific reference?
And isn't Marvel Boy currently in the Cube? Why would you send Luke to the Cube? That's for aliens.

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>"Okay, um, Skrulls."
>"Shape-shifting aliens."
>"I know what they are."

Hell, he's punched a few out before. I don't think the real "Jessica" has ever actually met a Skrull outside of Elektra.

>>86890722
Too late.....

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>>86890942
In comes Danny Rand with the answer to your question.

>>86890978
>>86891007
Why is Black Widow so gung-ho about enforcing the SHRA? Seems a little ooc for her.

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>>86891034
Because Bendis doesn't know how else to write her.

>>86891007
>>"I know what they are."
I'm actually glad they included this line. Usually Bendis characters are completely ignorant of things they should be.

>>86891029
Like here...where they need to be explained who the Leader is. Sigh.

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>"I'm onto you, Skrull..."

>>86891007
That Natasha. Ugh.

>>86891029
Hey wait a minute. Spider-Man is suddenly back in his red suit. So does this take place after OMD? Because there it was established that Spider-Man hadn't been active for 100 days. Did 100 days pass?

>>86891084
Also, at the start of Brand New Day the Avengers were still living in the Sanctorum with Strange. The editors really didn't coordinate on this one.

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>>86891058
Bendis characters say the phrase "I have no idea who that is" weirdly often. Like, those EXACT words.

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Considering her name is MAYA LOPEZ, she's looking weirdly Asian here.

>>86891121
Yeah, either that or "I don't know who that is". He'll often do it even when he doesn't need anyone to provide exposition, he just likes writing characters as ignorant for some reason.

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>"Don't hit on me Logan."

Please, you're not a redhead, he's not interested probably.

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For those who don't know, Maya was introduced in Daredevil's book. She was a love interest to Matt Murdock, but was also tricked by the Kingpin into fighting Daredevil.
He didn't tell her they were the same person, because he's a dick.

>>86891156
Glad to see Maya being skeptical. Let's face it, the Avengers saw ONE Skrull, ONE. This isn't the first time a Skrull has replaced someone, yet suddenly they assume that Skrulls MUST have infiltrated everywhere?
Logan himself was replaced by a Skrull once for God's sake. They're jumping to conclusions and they only happen to be right because the plot is on their side.

>>86891139

Didn't Mack create or co-create her too?

>>86891155

people keep posting that bucky not knowing kang panel (which i think is fine solo but bendis' pattern) and it makes me want a Bucky v Kang story that also addresses why those future kids hated him

>>86891188
She's asian though, so he would be.

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>>86891155
"Like an Egyptian pharaoh?"

>>86891218

when secret invasion was first happening this was my problem. They made a huge deal out of the Skrullektra and i was like "one skrull isn't an invasion"

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Just in case any of you thought Affleck's Daredevil was bad, this guy is even worse.

>>86891245
>>86891218
There was also that time a Skrull replaced a SENATOR. And was "unmasked" on live television and killed by a mob.

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>>86891218
Remember that time Danny Rand was replaced by a Skrull... and there weren't any others?

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>>86891222
Yep. He was the artist for that arc.

did anyone ever ask bendis about secret invasion as metaphor and that it's hella racist and fucked up?

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Going by the expression in the bottom left, his bad his "impression" was, and how he keeps telling her to give up, this particular Skrull just seems lazy.

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>>86891289
You're putting more thought into it than he puts into ANY of his events.

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So Cyclops, Nightcrawler, and some fire guy? Probably Daredevil too.

>>86891330

yeah but this was closely after Civil War right? which was all about "REAL LIFE PARALLELS"

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Remember, Echo is DEAF. File this under "shit the characters should know about each other."

>>86891381
>You don't even know what you're fighting for?
What does that even mean?
They're fighting because they don't wanna get replaced by Skrulls.

>>86891399

he says she can't hear him

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>>86891395
That doesn't disprove the idea that "Bendis doesn't put any thought behind the shit he writes" though.

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So yeah, even Wolverine doesn't know which Fire-power she has.
Going by the "mutant" theme, I'd guess Firestar and assume that Bendis doesn't know her powers aren't technically fire.

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Well, we know now that they weren't going to KILL her, but they were definetly going to REPLACE her.

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>"When I first joined the Avengers as Hawkeye, I thought: Okay, it's me and my little arrows right next to the real life God of Thunder."

Fucking hell, I haven't even READ classic Avengers, and I know he didn't join when Thor were around.

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And I thought the romance in the Star Wars prequels was bad.

>>86891456
In fact, when Clint first joined the Avengers, he thought he was hot shit and constantly belittled everyone except Wanda (he wanted to bang her obviously). It was years before he was on the same team as Thor.

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I guess there's worse characterizations for Hawkeye than 'the team slut".

>>86891480
Trust me, nobody is going to look back at this incarnation of the team as the glory days.

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>>86891500
Did he belittle Thor, or was the literal diety an exception to his "I'm better than everyone!" attitude?

>>86891443
>You're the one with the least amount a' ties
Um, why would that matter? The Skrulls perfectly replicate the memories of the person they replace. Their priority should be replacing people with influence, not loners.

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And now to the issues that actually tie into Secret Invasion. Every one of these covers is a reference to a "famous" cover. See if you can recognize them all!

>>86891520
>this art
Terrible.
Also I thought Bobbi was back.

>>86891531
I think by the time Thor was back he had become Goliath. I recall Hawkeye calling Thor "Goldilocks", he didn't seem intimidated or in awe.

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This basically continues from the end of one of the Illuminati issues where they were retconned into existing after the Kree-Skrull war by showing up at one of the Skrull's homeworlds, wrecking their shit, and saying "Don't come back to Earth."

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>>86891546
It's only THIS issue where the Secret Invasion event occurs. He still thinks she's been dead since the West Coast Avengers days.

>>86891576
>KING Dorrek
>Skrull EMPIRE
Something isn't right here...

>>86891599
So if she's a princess, is she Dorrek's daughter?

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>>86891619
I can only assume he made some REALLY big errors for something so obvious to slip in.
Unless that was some weirdness from the Silver Age.

>JJ/LC-heavy story
>bendis
>gaydos
No thank you

>>86891655
It's definetly an error, he's always been Emperor.

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>>86891667
If it makes you feel better, it's only the one issue.

>>86891456

The reason the Kooky Quartet was because Thor and everyone had left!!

>>86891500

yeah Hawkeye's like main trait was being a cocky asshole who thought he knew best

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Writers can never seem to decide on if Skrulls have genders or not.

>>86891716
I think BKV is the only writer to try and claim that Skrulls can change genders. Everywhere else, it's clear that there's males and females.

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Well I'll be damned. That bit that one Anon mentioned was indeed in this series.

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>>86891741
Changing between males and females is one thing. They're shapeshifters. It's the idea that they don't HAVE the male/female difference that's unique to him, and some people on the Internet who's only knowledge of comics is wikipedia

>>86891779
>>86891758
The artist/colorist (and the editor) screwed up. Dorrek VII died years before the FF switched to the black and white outfits.

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Wait, you said years later twice. Why'd they wait to get her? It's not like they don't know where she is.

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I may be remembering from the EMH arc, but isn't the only reason they think their prophecy refers to Earth is because it's "a world of blue"? Are there really no other mostly blue planets in the cosmos? Maybe some without superhumans?

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Okay, I can KIND of believe that they'd be able to master the X-gene and Inhuman powers from Xavier, Namor and Black Bolt through comic nonsense, but how would having Doctor Strange's DNA help you master magic?

>>86891847

i just assumed standard writing. like who cares if they take over pluto

>>86891865

sounds like somehow the clones have all the memories and shit of the originals and they're like downloading all the info off their brains?

man so close to just bullshit cosmic science and yet so far.

>>86891847
>but isn't the only reason they think their prophecy refers to Earth is because it's "a world of blue"?
Yup, you're right.
To be fair, given how much of a big deal Earth had been (repelling their invasions, stopping the Kree-Skrull War, defeating Galactus, the Herald that lead Galactus to Earth was human...) I can see why they would assume it's Earth.
Plus, there's that planet of Skrulls that cosplay as 1930s gangsters.

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Since Mockingbird was replaced, they had to have been starting this for a hilariously long time.
Just imagine how much crap has happened since she died!

>>86891847
Wait, whatever happened to all the other rulers of the Skrull Empire that came after the destruction of the Homeworld? Like S'Byll?

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>>86891893
That sounds like why they should want to pick an easier target!

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>>86891916
They don't count, I guess.

>>86891911

yeah if you tried to work out the timeline for this you'd lose your mind.

>>86891911
There's also one huge problem Bendis is ignoring.
For several years, all Skrulls in the universe lost the ability to shapeshift (except Kl'rt), what happened to their plans then?

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>Jessica Drew is able to do the most damage out of everybody they could replace

Either they couldn't replace many people, or that's some bullshit.

>>86891935
So Elektra was Skrull during Wolverine: Enemy of the State?

>>86891954

so i see Cyke, the Thing, Vision, Hulk, Nighthawk, Nightcrawler, Cap, Alpha Flight, and Wonder Man in the big screen thingy.

none of those fit the description of Elektra....

also Jessica Drew having any power to do damage is pretty funny

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Since nobody could guess that last cover, that was a reference to Avengers #1.

Try this one.

>>86891976
Yes, that is absolutely bullshit. Spider-Woman was just a SHIELD/Hydra double agent, hardly a big deal. It was pure luck that she got on the Avengers.

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So yeah, Bendis is going to go back and forth on backstory and "What happened in time we skipped in the Savage Lang"

>>86892006

it's an homage to a cover when spidey first met Avengers I think. Like first 15 issues probably?

>>86892033

OH i googled it. Kang made a Spider-Bot to beat the Avengers, it was wild

>>86892006
I did guess it, I just didn't bother answering because I had other stuff I wanted to comment on.
That cover is a reference to one of the early Avengers issues, where Kang the Conqueror replaces Spider-Man with a robot and has it attack the Avengers.

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>>86892033
#11 according to the wiki (yeah, I cheated).

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>>86892048
>>86892053
And now I feel like a causal for cheating.

>>86891935
I DON'T GET IT.
Why would they want to replace loners with few intimate connections? They're replacing system is perfect, they could just replace the President or anyone else in high postions of power.

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Like I said, seeing bits that the Secret Wars event skipped over.

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>"Skrulls?"
>"Shape-shifting alien race. I told you."
>"I know, but seriously?"

I like to this this is Bendis being self-aware about how nobody seems to know anything, but then he keeps doing it.

>>86892029
>>86892056
>>86892083
I call bullshit on a T-Rex being that much of a threat against all those characters, he should have been killed in like 5 seconds.

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And we're FINALLY getting explainations for what was being built up in he first arc.

>>86892145
Wait, is that Sauron? What's he doing there with Ka-Zar?

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>>86892110
Elektra was just a test to see if anybody would notice. As you said, to make sure it's perfect. Again, operating under Bendis logic of "if there's one Skrull, there's MORE than one Skrull."

>>86892145

Spidey why would the Skrulls give a shit about Ka Zar

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>"Fury would never betray us like this."

Remember, by this time Secret War had happened and Nick Fury went underground, leaving Maria "I make 2014+ Carol Danvers look competent" Hill in charge.

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>that look when Shanna fucking chops her in the trachea

>>86892201

he was prepping for this tho.

also didn't know savage land had vibranium mines.

>>86892201
I guess Ka-Zar doesn't keep up with the news, what with the lack of TV, internet or newspapers.

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Shanna's a former SHIELD agent, right? How does KA-ZAR know about the Kree-Skrull War, and not her?

>>86892223
They do, but it's ANTARTIC Vibranium, different from Wakandan Vibranium. Antartic Vibranium is an anti-metal that can even destroy Adamantium, whereas the Wakandan one stops vibrations.

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>>86892191
Dude's basically in charge of the only country with Vibranium. Shit could be useful for something?

>>86892233
Like we've established, Bendis prefers his characters ignorant. Ka-Zar happened to be the one he chose to be the character that has to explain something to someone who doesn't know.

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>>86892177
Presumably that's what the flashbacks will explain. But they probably won't.

>>86892256

T'challa tho!

>>86892249

sure!

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>>86892229
You say that, and then the next page shows him knowing something he, by all rights, shouldn't.

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>>86892273
See, but it would make more sense if SHE was giving exposition.

>>86892275
>A total of what? Five? Maybe?
I'm pretty sure there's a lot more than that. And that's not even counting the Savage Land Mutates.

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>>86892285
Different kind of Vibranium.

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>>86892328
Given that on this page, they literally start gathering an army, I'd say that's more that character being wrong, and not Bendis being a twit.

>>86892309
That's why I said that he "happened to be the one he chose", Bendis doesn't put any thought into this, he sees these characters are just narrative tools that don't matter.

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This took place near the end of their second arc, or the second New Avengers storytime, if you want to read it yourself.

is this supposed to be Contessa Valentina btw?

>>86892377
This makes even less sense. Sauron was fighting the New Avengers at this point in time, what's he doing there?

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>>86892358
Sadly true.

>>86892233
Shanna is sexy.

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>"Now YOU'RE here doing, I don't know what."

Spidey, you do remember they LIVE there, right? Shit, they're probably interested in the asshole who crashed into their front yard.

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Is THIS the one that genuinely thought he was Captain America?

>>86892177
>>86892394
Also, did we ever find out why the Skrulls hired Electro to break out Sauron (even though somehow the Savage Land Mutates also hired Electro to break out Sauron)?

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Funny story Anons. In the cover this one is referencing, ROM was in the middle row to the far left. But they lost the rights by this point.

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We already saw what "Jessica" told the Avengers about this flashback. However, this version isn't drawn by Cho.

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And speaking of Cho, >>86892401

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>>86892460
Either in these tie-ins, or Mighty Avengers.

>>86892517
>Which your father altered in your youth
Hey, give the High Evolutionary credit!

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I get them mixed up since Bendis REALLY didn't do much to differentiate them, since both books were "flashbacks to before Secret Invasion"

>>86892550
Didn't Bendis try and pretend that the HE had nothing to do with Jess' origin and claim that he and the New Men were hallucinations?

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>>86892550
Bendis would never acknowledge a character with a name that silly

>>86892536

i legit thought you meant it took until Ewing to tie up that loose end

>>86892562
If Skrulls don't have nipples, why do they have boobs?

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>>86892569
That sounds just stupid enough to be true.

>>86892586
But the High Evolutionary is right there. In the page you just posted.

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Fucking hell Bendis, do you really need this much text?

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On my god, did you REALLY need a third page? Was a double-page spread of just "one person talking" not enough?

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>"Spider-Woman."
>"The first and best."

I said it when we read issue one, and I'll say it here. "Not even close."

>>86892641
>They have their own island
I'm pretty sure that Genosha was genocided by this point.

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>>86892595
No, one of Bendis's books shows The Hand (Elektra-Skrull being there personally) hiring him.

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>Jessica with top open

Was that the case in the original thread? I feel like I'd remember making fun of it if it were.

>>86892641
>The unvelievable racism
Um, I know for a fact that Skrulls are EVEN MORE racist against mutant Skrulls than humans are to Earth mutants. Remember the Cadre K? In fact, Bendis himself wrote a Skrull in the Illuminati series saying that mutants are abominations that Skrulls would kill at birth.

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This is some awfully casual talk, considering you're a damn Empress speaking to a subordinate.

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>>86892686
Oh, it had been for a while by then.

>>86892699
So their plan was to free a bunch of super-villains. How does that help their plan? One of those villains was THE MOLECULE MAN.

>>86892749

i like that skrull pym has internalized pyms insecurity

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>"And then Wanda, the Scarlet Witch, she's walking by and she does one of her hexes and turns his bow into pudding."

This is what Bendis thinks the Scarlet Witch could do while "sane".

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>it's a "Bendis shits on the Scarlet Witch" page

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>"You make me nervous. MY Spider-Sense is tingling about you."

I can only assume that people give Bendis a lot of shit for forgetting that Jessica Drew doesn't HAVE a Spider-Sense, between now and that relatively famous bit with Jessica and Peter on a roof.

>>86892781

general chaos to make invading easier. hell Bane did it to break Bats

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>>86892742
>Remember the Cadre K?
Of course he doesn't.

>>86892800
Yeah, Bendis seems to think her powers have always been reality alteration.

>>86892821
Yeah, this is just insulting.
WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE WANDA WITH MAGNETO? SHE HATES HER!

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>>86892781
Sad thing is, he outright had him on panel. Owen is as powerful as Bendis THINKS Wanda is, and he never does anything until Dark Avengers.

>>86892821

Wanda didn't know Mags was her dad until she was like 30!! She was raised by Django and Marya! Did PAD write this!

stupid shit, i know i know, hitting the same points

>>86892821
>Well, when you father's Magneto
FUCK YOU LOGAN.
Also fuck you Bendis.

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Before you ask, not doing Dark Avengers.

>>86892895

Also Logan you think your dad is Sabretooth

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Oh boy, you all remember THIS effect, right?

>>86892910
:(

>>86892911
And Logan's best friend's mother is Mystique.

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>>86892936
Mytique is a bottle of beer's mother? How'd she manage that?

Also Magneto's other kids are fine too! maybe that's why polaris went to space,

>>86892943

are Hulk and Banner turning into Skrulls too?

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>>86892936
It was storytimed recently enough that you can still find it, with pictures, on Desu.

>>86892699
Why do they care about the Silver Samurai?

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>>86892792
Apparently various Pym-Skrulls had to keep being replaced because they kept trying to convince the Skrulls to leave.

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>>86892854
Difference is, if the Molecule Man just gets bored, he can snap his fingers and the entire Skrull fleet is GONE. He's just as much a threat to them as he is to Earth.

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>>86892868
Because Bendis decided to give her Daddy issues, so of course she cares about him!

>>86892895
Hes not wrong

>>86893053

i mean both those twins have parent issues just not how bendis thinks

>>86893033
How did a dart go through his chainmail...? It would have made more sense if it had hit him in the neck.

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>>86892890
>Did PAD write this!

No, as much as he hates gypsies, I'm pretty sure even he knows this shit more than Bendis.

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What exactly did that prove, and how?

>>86893073
So the super-perfect Skrulls that can't be detected by magic, telepathy or anything can be unmasked by a drug made by cavemen?

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>"Does my human form disguist you? It sickens me."

Then why stick with it? I'm pretty sure you're out of Earth's range.

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>>86893059
But he is, in the sense that Magneto didn't raise her. Hell, Rogue practically WAS raised by Mystique, who was also a terrorist, but Logan still likes her.

So wait...I understand you running away with the baby to save it from immediate danger but how the fuck is it ok to not allow Cage to see his kid AFTER the danger is gone???

What the fuck is this hostage shit. She toke his fucking kid away from him and she is literally holding the kid hostage until he meets her demands. This is complete BULLSHIT.

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>>86893101
I can only assume he's just too drugged to hold the form? But then he'd shift back every time he slept.

>>86893086
Poor Skrull

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Huh, I guess this is the Skrull who thought he was Cap.

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>>86893122
Jessica Jones is a horrible person. Not exactly news.

>>86893159
>Cap's memories
>Wolverine is there
>The Falcon isn't
BULLSHIT

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>"When the Skrulls Zabyk and Myrn detonated the genetic 'hyperwave bomb'"

Which was what stopped the Skrull's shapeshifting, so they were planning this crap even back then!

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>"The Wasp is dead!"

Man, Bendis really doesn't like Janet, huh?

>>86893216
So, what exactly did these conspiracy Skrulls do during the years where their research and planning was worthless because they couldn't shape-shift?
Also, that's not what She-Hulk's FF costume looked like, she didn't have sleeves.

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>"You damage them so completely that even if the entire empire lost this Initiative, and we won't, but if we did, the shockwave of damage will stay with them forever."

When was the last time a character who wasn't Jessica Drew showed any problems from events of Secret Invasion?

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>>86893211
I'd be surprised if 2008-Bendis knew who the Falcon was.

>>86893216
>When the Avengers and the FF were captured by our armada
Wait, that's not how it happened at all. The Avengers were ALLIES with the Skrulls in stopping Zabyk.

>>86893201
Well now I kinda like that the Purpleman fucked her up. And I hope the gets fucked up again real soon.

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>Jessica Jones in the bottom panel

Seriously, why even go through the trouble of getting an infiltrator for her?

>>86893299
Wasn't Falcon in House of M?

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>>86893302
Bendis, not knowing comic book history? SAY IT ISN'T SO!

>>86893278
Yeah, this whole "send a ship full of Skrull imposters to the Savage Land" plan was fucking stupid and a waste of good soldiers. It achieved nothing but distract the Avengers for a bit.

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>>86893260
>Also, that's not what She-Hulk's FF costume looked like, she didn't have sleeves.

>>86893299
Wait a minute. It just dawned on me. Why would there be a Skrull VISION?

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>even Iron Man has the Skrull chin

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>>86893260
Seriously, I feel like we could make a drinking game of "continuity details Bendis screws up"

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>>86893364
Given that he follows the Byrne theory of "He's a toaser", that's a damn good question

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>The clone Strange doesn't have magic

Seriously, why even TAKE his DNA?!

>>86893435
>>86893455
>We are to believe they will retaliate
Um, the Skrulls attacked the Earth DOZENS of times after the Kree-Skrull War.

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>"How did we escape the Skrull Empire?"

They really didn't just implant how they ACTUALLY did it?

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>Reed doesn't have his powers and Tony's armor doesn't work

I mean, at least they were taken for their intellifence

>>86893435

i still wish i had the stamina to get his oral history of the avengers together and post it along side the actual issues.

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>>86893342
I feel like the idea was supposed to be that they'd kill a few of them.
Then Reed came down with his anti-Skrull gun and conclusively showed which ones were Skrulls

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>>86893478
Given the retcon that they were around just after the War, these guys don't have any memories from after that.

And then Bendis has Iron Man give his armor vocal commands which screws that idea, but whatever.

>>86893121

also rachel summer was brainwashed into a fucking mutant hunter by nazis in Days of Future Past.

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>>86893525
His what? Oh god, that sounds like a damn trainwreck.

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>"We can create a Reed Richards clonepod and put it in your chambers for you to do as you'd like for as long as you'd like..."

Here's how I know I've been in JSAnon's threads to often. My immediate thought was sex dungeon.

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>>86893583
Does Marvel even acknowledge Rachel's existance anymore?

>>86893597

I think it was during Heroic Age? His Avengers books all had back ups that was "An Oral History of the Avenger" thingy that I assumed got all collected into a book before the movie.

>>86893618
>King
EMPEROR
More importantly, Dorrek died in the 70s, why are the Illuminati wearing outfits from 30 years later?

>>86893644
There's something weird about those first 2 panels

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>>86893650
Oh yeah, those things. I forgot about them.

>>86893515

did professor X also stand up?? i'm loling

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>>86893653
It's not like it's just something we can blame on the artist, since Tony Stark is outright talking to his armor's AI, which didn't exist back then.

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>"He is telling a falsehood. He is already planning to release a chemical-based weapon that will instantly kill everyone here."

Holy shit. Don't fuck with Reed Richards.

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>"Honey, can you please not do science in bed?"
>"Sorry Susan, but my greatest love keeps calling for me."

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>>86893684
It wasn't really Professor X, just a Skrull pretending to be him. That's why he acted so differently.

>>86893751
>How do you know they aren't here already?
Funny thing is, for years Alicia Masters had been replaced by a Skrull and nobody noticed except the Puppet Master.

>>86893644
Last I remember he was recreating the universe with Franklin after secret wars.

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>all those repeated panels

>>86893644

she was in that all lady X-Book and also taught at Wolverine's school. God only knows what's up now with all the inhuman v Xmen shit

>>86893801

>those bottom 2 panels
>we should've made sure all the cows were eaten

>>86890572
>all those threads
How long has this been going on? Where have I been?

>>86893792
And he only noticed because the Alicia Skrull, Lyja, never bothered visiting her "mother's" grave and then he asked his old buddy the Mad Thinker to verify.

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>>86893799
Rachel Summers, Anon. You're thinking of Valeria Richards.

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I don't think we ever actually get any details on what this is. Reed just "somehow" is able to think of something like this, even though he basically knows nothing about magic

Not even a token comic book explaination, just "they can do it now, so shut up."

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And time for House of M again!

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Because this was totally worth a full page.

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>the same Bendis-speak in the fourth panel from House of M

It wasn't clever then, and it's still annoying now.

>>86893959
Not to mention, Skrull Reed thinks this will make the Skrulls undetectable, yet later the real Reed makes a gun that reverts Skrulls to normal in like 5 minutes.

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>>86893832
And she was also in Spidr-Man and the X-Men, where she just randomly hated Peter, for the sake of the plot.

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>>86893857
I started with Luke Cage: Hero For Hire #1, and and have been doing a few issues a day to finish nearly every other Luke Cage/Iron Fist story fairly regularly for almost 5 months now.

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So much for "have to keep in the same form".

>>86894102
So, not even Wanda could tell they were Skrulls? I am so confused.

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And now you know the retconned explanation for why Hank acted like such a dick in this scene.

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>that second panel

The fuck is THAT a reference to?

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I'd react the same way of Jessica Drew suddenly started flying after me.

>>86891029
Isn't this post IIF? Why I recall this being before?

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Let's see if he ends up explaining why Veranke tried to convince the others to keep the House of M the new Earth.

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So do these two keep their old memories just because of the Skrull memory rituals?

>>86894215
>She isn't this powerful
Not according to Bendis

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>>86894188
During, technically. I haven't decided when I should run Immortal Iron Fist. I'm thinking either right before Siege, or after we finish New Avengers.

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Oh yeah, remember this scene?

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>>86894122
Yeah, Wanda's only a nigh-omnipotent reality warper when he suits Bendis's stupid plots.

>>86894301
>I truly loved you. I'd kill for you, because I loved you more than the woman I married, whom I got pissed at for killing her rapist.

>>86891139
People from the South America of mixed ancestry sometimes do. Besides, isn't she also half native american or something?

>>86890920
Fuckin' Ares.

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>>86894351
Bendis basically wrote Ares as a sterotypica misogynist in Mighty Avengers.
He didn't have that particular character trait in Dark Avengers, because in that book his only options were Victoria Hand

>>86894399
Hand is cute

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Well, Victoria Hand (who's a lesbian) and Moonstone, who Bendis was basically writing as "the team slut" despite her actual character being anything but.

>>86894399
So, how come they never leaked it to the media? As far as I know, nobody outside of the hero community and SHIELD knows about Wanda doing Disassembled or House of M.

>>86894325
Bendis really doesn't get Hawkeye.

>>86894399
>Bendis basically wrote Ares as a sterotypica misogynist in Mighty Avengers.
And it was funny. Should have kept at it, even though he would have overdone it.

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All right Anons, I've gotta run a few errands, so let's leave the thread off here. If the thread is still around at the night hours, I'll do two more issues to get us done with these Secret Invasion issues.

>>86890572
Welcome back.

Jessica Jones gives in to her PTSD and becomes an hero when?

>>86894254
Before Siege is my vote, if it counts.

>>86890689
So on Cage- Anyone else disappointed by a lack of Kool Aid Man entrances in the show?

>>86895312
Now that you bring it up, I am, yes.

>>86890934
Drew is probably the only one there he could take.

>>86891068
Ah good, this ends Gaydos and his ugly fucking traced art.

It's like he does woodcut of photographs.

>>86891121
>Bendis characters say the phrase "I have no idea who that is" weirdly often. Like, those EXACT words.

It may be Bendis's attitude towards the character bleeding through. Like how he turned the not-evil Chemistro evil again.

>>86891156
>Our past

God, is there anyone Wolverine hasn't molested?

>>86891381
If there's one kinda neat thing about Secret Invasion, it's all the Super Skrull power combos they came up with (and focused absolutely nill on)

>>86891429
Hey, they coulda been Rusty Collins fire powers.
He used to exist.

>>86891520
Ehhh. I mean, it's still wrapped up in a Bendis package.

>>86891555
See, there is SOME justification to Hawkeye stating that he was overawed by his teammates, I mean, that's why he became Goliath- He'd been benched for No Powers.

But that was way later on.

Hey, PMIFAnon, Jessica Henwick @11 mins goes on describe the picture of Colleen, that made her fall in love with the character. Do you know what it was? Can't find it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n-GbU25RJB4

>>86891576
>Skrull World Satriani

Boosh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoERl34Ld00

>>86899419

>>86891619
Nah, plenty of Empires have been ruled by Kings.
British. French. Hell, arguably even the Byzantine.

>>86891653
Not necessarily. Princes and Princesses are easily from junior branches of a royal family.

>>86890572

>>86892275
>Darlin'

This is not a believable Contessa.

>>86892536
I like the idea that Veranke chose Drew, but throught her tits were too small.

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Welcome back Anons! Let's finish this up!

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>Wizard still a member of his gang

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>"Settle down Whitney."
>"Is that her name?"
>"Whitney Frost."
>"Did not know that."

Wouldn't real names be on their files?

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>"If the Hood has, we have to know or the switchout won't work."

Okay, so they clearly aren't keeping up the act that they're human. Why the hell are they talking so casually?

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Seriously, this is some ">teleports behind you" shit right here.

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>The Wizard is calling horseshit about aliens

YOU LITERALLY PICK FIGHTS WITH MR. FANTASTIC, WHO DEALS WITH ALIENS FREQUENTLY!

>>86894445
Secret Invasion is such a weird event. I keep getting Islamic/Israeli feelings behind the Skrulls, and yet the heroes keep blindly killing them all. Like what the fuck Bendis?

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>>86903893
Like I said, I don't think he thought that far ahead. He probably thought the religious stuff sounded cool, and that was it.