Champions #1

>>86848755
It was good. You guys just hate waid

>>86848799
It was shit and Waid should never be allowed to write Kamala again.

>>86848755
this wouldn't be as bad if there were just three panels instead of six

or if she was moving around/changing portions in each frame instead

>>86848755
Is Ramos even trying?

>>86848839
This. I honestly don't find myself caring about the character when she's written by someone other than G Willow Wilson, which is worrisome if they're gonna try to make her have any sort of longevity as a character.

/co/ is so fucking filled with plebs. They never even look at the effect the deconstruction is trying to achieve, but just notice similar panels and screech BENDIS BENDIS BENDIS because they literally can't come up with single original or critical inkling of an idea in their desperate scramble to fit what they think is the cool, edgy kids clubhouse of the internet.

>>86849559
Pretty much this.
Marvel doesn't realize it's not only the character but how the character is written.
Waid and Bendis just make Kamala shipbait or this weird soapbox character, while G. Willow Wilson writes a threedimensional girl, if anything with a little bit of "how do you do fellow kids"

>>86849564
Deconstruction? Its a girl sitting on her bed waiting on her friends to text her back. There is a clock behind her, the same thing could have been done in 2 panels

>>86849564
It's lazy and shit, Ramos.
You could have gone the >>86848933 route but you decided to take the shortcut and created this abomination.

>>86849564
6 panels to show 8 minutes of time has passed. Yeah really fucking creative.

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>>86849564
>deconstruction

>>86848755
>tfw people hyped book here like it's second coming of Generation X

>>86848755
Ah yes, the classic 15 panel grid structure. Bravo Waid.

>>86848755
Many comic have done that. You guys love to overeact over everything

>>86848755

>Half a page wasted.
>8 panels used.
>All just to show 8 minutes went by in her hesitation.

Fuck, man, that's fucking deep.

>>86849617
Only /co/ doesn't like it everyone else else loves it. The copies at my lcs were sold out. Consiedering most of /co/ seems to pirate anyway it shouldn't put a dent in the sales

>>86849626
>Many comic have done that.
That doesn't make it any less bad.

>>86848755
I'm not bothered by the same panels I'm just bothered by how she could stay in one spot for 8 minutes. Other then that it was pretty enjoyable

>>86849654
>The copies at my lcs were sold out.
Maybe because there weren't many copies in the first place? Various LCS commented how little hype was out there for the book.

>>86849691
They had ordered a lot though

>>86849564
I would've understood if it was over a span of hours, but it's 8 fucking minutes. That's not dramatic. That's Sam going to the kitchen for dinner and leaving his phone in his room.

>>86848755
>Don't you think that's kinda cheap?
>...
>...
>...Not really

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is probably my favorite variant cover i've seen in some time

>>86848755
Kek. This books gonna go on for a long time. I can't wait until sale numbers go up

>>86849626
>so what of this guy raped someone. Plenty others have raped, that makes it okay
*slaps face*
Idiot

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>Kamala will be badly written in Champions and IvX
>her book will be derailed
She deserve better, I'm sorry Marvel couldn't understand it

>>86849710
Who eats dinner at 10 am?

>>86849733
*unsheathes katana*
*teleports behind you*
nothing personnel kid

>>86849740
No one, but it takes 8 minutes to cook spaghetti so I had dinner on my mind.

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>>86848755
I know the feeling, Kamala. I hate modern Marvel too

>>86849728
Sales numbers can literally only go down for this. They inflated the numbers for #1 with a million variants and incentives, #2 will drop like a rock and it'll get relaunched next year when Marvel releases brand new #1s again.

>>86849654
>what are variant incentives?
All Marvel is doing is pulling the same bullshit as always in order to artificially boost sales.

Champions 001 (Zone-Empire)
http://www110.zippyshare.com/v/mOIRUZjA/file.html
http://www29.zippyshare.com/v/M1yU4sCe/file.html

and >>86753180

because if you haven't read this already, you should be forced to suffer, too

>>86849654
This is sadly true. Marlel lackeys deserve the low quality garbage their company is shitting out.

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>>86849739
she deserves ANGR

>>86850026
Kamala would call him worse than police officers for killing criminals and not studying how to fix traintracks according to Waid.

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>>86850026
>>86850121
>Ghost Rider Robbie and Triggered Kamala will never have hot hatesex
Life isn't fair

>>86849850
It wasn't as bad as everyone was saying

>>86850354
They just aren't woke enough

Now let me check my twitter after a underage girl just died.

Holy shit I am trending. This is the best day ever in history.

Ramos is on the marvel livestream now.

>>86850411
Eww

>>86848755
Why would you halfasd your first issue? I mean, yeah, it going to seek regardless. But you might as well put some quality in it.

>>86848755
I wonder if her legs fell asleep sitting there on the same position and not moving.

>>86848755

I never bothered with Marvel because most of the heroes seem like assholes but Kamala, Miles and Nova seem like a fun trio, can someone recommend something?

>>86849564
>deconstruction
that word doesn't mean what you think it means

>>86851453
there is nothing good with all three of them as regulars. Kamala's solo series has one issue with them, and it's pretty good

>>86851453
Read their individual comics. Not this.

>>86848799
We also hate Ramos

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>>86849559
>There will be a day when Kamala is at the mercy of every third-rate writer out there
>That day has come

>>86848755
Is this an edit?

>>86853437
No

>>86849629
truly cape kino