What are some of the worst elements on current Marvel books?

Bait thread. Report and move on.

>>86823356

Sorry if you think that Marvel is doing great right now but is not.

I just want to talk about how lazy they have goten with their artwork.

>>86823331

BTW, who is the artist for Green Arrow? It looks pretty dope!

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>>86823413

I don't get pic related, if the artists for Gwenpool are two japanese women, how come that it looks like crap compared with other weaboo artists?

I wouldn't agree with this. Gwenpool's coloring isn't very inventive/expressive, but I also don't think it's very representative of the line. Criticism is fine but it seems like a stretch to draw this conclusion. But to me Marvel's art overall isn't bad outside of a few outliers (Land, Henderson, whoever's on Hellcat), writing and editorial are where the major problems lie to me.

If you want a book more representative of Marvel's mistakes probably just CW2 does the trick. The fact that we've now seen multiple creators (A-Force and HydraCap, might be more but those are the two I remember) retconning it while it's still being published to try to have it make sense is telling enough. Shitty cashgrab that makes no sense and has no proper direction.

>>86823331
I don't think you get how comics work.

>>86823484
>Marvel's art overall isn't bad

Can you post a current great artist working on Marvel?

I literally can't think of anyone

>>86823502

I do, some comics are great and they have a lot of care put into them and others are products like Gwenpool that only exist because they saw girls cosplaying as her/money

Constant "nudge and wink" style writing. There's always been an aspect of that in comics, but Marvel has been insufferable with its whole "eh? Eh? Aren't comics just cuhrazee??" schick.

>>86823512
Del Mundo and Walta.

>>86823571

They have like 10 characters that break the forth wall now!

Deadpool
Gwenpool
Hellcat and Squirrel girl to a lesser degree.
Angela Queen of Hel for some reason
She-Hulk
Ms Marvel is getting there with all that ''lol I'm a nerd'' talk that she does about super heroes

I predict Slapstick going the same route

>>86823512
Can't drop any names, but the art work in the following titles is great
Ultimates
New Avengers
Ms Marvel
Moon Knight
Vision
Carnage
Spider-Man and Deadpool
Old Man Logan
Squadron Supreme
Hyperion
Nova

Marvel colorists are shitting the bed, just look at the Ultimates2 preview.

>>86823690
>>86823694
Kuder is generally great too but I haven't read Death of X to see if his Marvel work is worse

>>86823690
Walta is mediocre at best.

>>86823734
I didn't have any problem with the art from death of X. But it's got the Marvel tag on it so expect loyalists and company wars shitposters to do nothing but hate it.

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>>86823734

>>86823780

Crystal looks like a dude

>>86823331

Waifufags have literal shit taste or what??? All that praise for the artiston Gwenpool and it looks like Deviant Art tier!

>>86823694

somebody post some examples

>>86823780
Gorgon the lumberjack

>>86823920
What is Google image searching?

>>86823963

Yeah but mayebe I wont stumble across their best work, current work, etc.

Like that Green Arrow page, I saved it specially because it looked better than most pages on the comic

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>>86824026
Comic title + 2016

You should train your googlefu anon

Cheaply diversifying ALL the top heroes

Carol's push

>>86824324
>Carol's push

She literally never had a good run, just mediocre shit all around or shit shit like with KSD

Reminder that Marvel is going to beat DC's marketshare in October and people are going to go back to crying about how the "better" company is losing

>>86824716
Elaborate how.

>>86823536
that or you dont need god tier art to convey comedy

>>86824773
Champions on top of DC titles bleeding sales.

>>86824716
Champions #1 will sell 400k

Every other book won't break 40k

>>86824862
It's not considered bleeding sales until you get past the point where you're expected to settle in. They're not there yet.

Champions will indeed bump Marvel to #1 again though. Or at least it should but I guess we'll see.

>>86823475
Probably because they got dismissed over in GRORIOUS NIPPON FOLDED 1000 TIMES land.

>>86823694
>New Avengers
No, it was only good while Marcos To was doing it and he was only a guest artist.

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>>86823920
ultimates

>>86823331
What do you think of the art in NextWAVE?