/doa/ Dumbing of Age General

Hol up, I'm associating "potty" with taking a shit, but I ain't a native english speaker. If I'm not wrong, why would he announce he has to take a shit. Also, why would he flee the math course, did I miss something?

>>86811644
Where are you finding these new strips? The site hasn't updated yet

>>86811741
He's doing bad in his math class and doesn't want to admit it. They're all going the same way to class, so he's using going to the bathroom as an excuse to leave the group. He is almost certainly running back to his dorm room. Or going to a lighter math class that won't be so hard for him.

Going to the potty can also include peeing, by the way.

>>86811741
Declaring that you're taking a shit when you break off from a group (presumably to take a shit) is pretty common around my friends. If you walk off without saying anything you're a fucking weirdo

>>86811815
It's a freshman math class, all he needs to do is sit there and take notes and no one will notice. Hell, he didn't take notes in the class to begin with which is the exact reason why he's in this mess.

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Next strip.

You guys really help this comic.

>>86811877
He really needs to ask Dorothy how to take good notes. I think that would help.

I also like the idea that someone posted last thread about Joyce tutoring Walky in private.

>>86811878
*really eerie
*down to their level

You're on the right track with the dissonant, confused responses.

>>86811799
There is one whom we call patreanon, a figure steeped in legend, who does the work of stealing the preview comic from Willis's Patreon and delivering it to us for mocking.

>>86812041

>stealing

That implies it's worth something

>>86812401
Unfortunately, the implication is backed up by how much he receives from Patreon and Kickstarter every year. Plus, people buy his comic collections.

>>86812666

Fitting trips, Satan

>>86812840
I'm a little bit honored. My first-ever trips go to something appropriate. Well, off to summon all my demon friends so we can party.

>>86813115

Cool, let em grab Willy on the way back down too. I'm sure his "Historical Jesus" hijanks have earned him a Hell Cell.

>>86811923
Get a pen, write stuff down. The simple act of writing stuff uses more neurons, which means faster learning.

>>86811878
Post the previous strip?

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>>86813525

link to porn

>>86813568
https://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/west_tree_academy_of_heroes/1

Am I a big gay if I buy one of the physical DoA books?

>>86814215
Rest assured, anon! Your choice to purchase books does not alter your size or your sexual orientation.

>>86814215
Why though?

Are you going to burn it as a sacrifice to your dark lord? Or are you going to keep it and read it like some sort of degenerate?

>>86814419
T-the first one man, haha. What kinda l-loser wants to READ it...?

>>86814467
Oh really?

So which dark lord are we talking about here? Dormammu? Bendis? Tito Dickman?

>>86811815
>He's doing bad in his math class and doesn't want to admit it.

Why? There's no shame in admitting something like that.

>>86814419
>not buying DoA books to make cum tributes at Joyce
She wants your seed, anon. Spilling it for anyone else would be a waste.

>>86811923
>I also like the idea that someone posted last thread about Joyce tutoring Walky in private.
Is THAT what the kids are calling it these days?

>>86811878
I have to admit it's funny that Tycho Brahe is a rapist

Penny Arcade deserves all the "Fuck You" they can get.

Give him an accomplice that looks like Gabe. Pac-Man ghost t-shirt

>obsessed with cartoons
>talks like a five year old
>failing all his classes
Is Walky LITERALLY retarded?
Also does being a retarded black man make Walky more oppressed than Carla?

>>86814557
Because Walky is an idiot who has more pride than he should.

>>86814590
Joyce is a pure Christian girl who would not make advances on her best friend's boyfriend.

>>86814994
JOYCE IS A CHRISTIAN SLUT WHO TAKES IT IN THE ASS TO PROTECT HER VIRGINITY

>>86814752
No, he just hit his prime around high school, and now that he's in college and never learned the importance of studying instead of fucking your cute blonde shortstack girlfriend, he is experiencing some academic struggles.

Plus, isn't he only eating ass in math?

I'm in a rare mood to take some requests. Throw some at me. I'll probably only do a couple but we'll see.

>>86815051

Sounds more like Mary

I realized something earlier tonight.

What about Dina's classes? She goes to school as well; is Becky going to try to sneak in, or what?

>>86815233
Mary sitting on Carla's lap while they watch a movie together. I don't know why, but "Blazing Saddles" comes to mind. You can use whatever movie you want, though.

>>86815233

>Mary, Joyce, and Sierra on Pilgramage
>Mary riding a magnificent horse with a red-cross shield held at the ready, gazing piously across the horizon toward the Holy Land
>Joyce alongside her on foot, taking in the scenery around her
>Sierra bringing up the rear, her attention absorbed in a holy book

>>86815233
Joe and Jacob as the Blues Brothers.

>>86815260
Most don't care, or notice, if someone sits in a large class.

>>86815233
Dina with a hand down her pants getting herself off furiously while she imagines Becky as a dinosaur.

>>86815233
Sarah and Malaya bonding over their hate of most people.

>>86815386
Large classes, true.

But for Dina, I feel like she'd have gone into classes for geology and biology, which would certainly be smaller. Those are the classes I had in mind.

Hell, I just realized now the potential for a storyline where Becky is under suspicion of squatting in classes. Too bad Willis probably won't ever focus on such a thing.

>>86814994
>>86814752
A lot of its pride. In an earlier strip he talked how he crushed high school calc, and thought he could skip right to advanced college math and is realizing he is very wrong.

As a side effect, hes fulfilling his friends request to not do well in school so his sis can feel better about her efforts.

>>86815233
Sarah dressed up as Jacket from Hotline Miami, bat in hand

>>86815587
Ooh, I like that one.

>>86815429
She'd still be taking intro classes as she's a freshman.

>>86815464
If he skipped to advanced college math he'd have had to have tested into the class. Since Joyce, Billie, Mike, Sal, and Sarah are in the class with him it shouldn't be an advanced course.

>>86815587

Was HLM even around in 2010?

>>86815783

I THINK it came out in 2012...

>>86815677
If she spoke with an advisor, she'd probably have been able to schedule in classes other than gen-ed.

Mostly I just want to see a story where Dina has to go to an important class, only for Becky to try and tag along, causing Dina to have to keep her from distracting her and/or barging in.

>>86815783
>>86815788
Willis doesn't care about the chronology of DoA. Why should we?

>>86815783
it doesnt matter, the comic isnt set in 2010
how long are people going to keep saying this

>>86815819
>A story where Becky's extroversion is shown to be a bad thing

Good luck with that

you guys becky has already sat in on classes before
also im not sure why you think shed get in trouble for that youre allowed to sit in on classes

>>86815891
Fair enough.
Curse my desire for actual conflict.

>>86815915
Again, what I want isn't so much Becky getting in trouble for sitting in on classes and more Becky becoming a distraction to Dina when she's trying to participate in her own classes.

>>86815967
A better plot would be Dina having trouble because she keeps shirking her studies to hang with Becky and Becky distracting her while she's trying to study.

Now that I think about it a decent plot for Becky would be her tutoring Walky, and make it so she spends her free time studying while everyone is busy as to get a leg up when she's able to enroll.

>>86815967
>Again, what I want isn't so much Becky getting in trouble for sitting in on classes and more Becky becoming a distraction to Dina when she's trying to participate in her own classes.
fair enough.
though she didnt disrupt the classes she sat in on before, and the last time dina asked for space she agreed with no argument. so i doubt that would happen.

>>86816099
That could work too.

>>86816111
That isn't how it works.

Conflict is at the heart of all stories, whether major or minor. If people are comfortable, then you're doing something very wrong.

>over an hour
>no Patreanon

He has finally freed himself from the torment.
Blessed be Patreanon. May a flock of angels sing him to his rest.

>>86816136
there are other sources of conflict. having literally every possible thing going wrong at every second doesnt make a good story

>>86816289
No, that's just bad writing.
Conflict is challenge. Conflict is an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. The conflict in the situation above would be Dina trying to focus on her geology or biology studies while Becky is trying to shirk those studies and go make out at the Chick-Fil-A again. Nothing has to go wrong at all; maybe Dina successfully ignores Becky, or maybe Becky gets the message on her own.

But a story where everything goes right before it has a chance to go wrong-- a story where Becky just ditches Dina when she's in class and we end it at that-- is not even a story at all.

>>86816346
like i said, theres already a lot of conflict in the story
that particular thing isnt happening
how is that supposed to mean "everythings going right"

>>86816369
I'm not talking about the overall story of DoA. I'm talking about individual stories. The overall story of DoA is "A bunch of shit happens at a university over the course of seemingly endless days and months." The individual stories are what keep faggots like us reading every day.

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>>86815587

>>86816394
...and that individual story you want wouldnt happen because its out of character, so you went off about a lack of conflict for no reason.
what is the point of anything youve been saying?

>>86816412
A comic that's just about Sarah and her take-no-shit baseball bat would be amazing.

>>86816419
Who's to say that it's out of character? Becky and Dina's personalities essentially boil down to "loud and proud lesbian" and "obsessed with dinosaurs", so it wouldn't be much of a stretch for the above scenario to happen.

And the point is that there have been multiple opportunities for Willis to introduce ongoing conflicts between characters in the past, but he either ignores those opportunities or ties them up with a bow before they have a chance to actually develop. The conflicts he does follow, as is par for Willis, are often mishandled poorly.

>>86816412
Thank you, based Yoto

I'll take Sarah beating up Indiana's inexhaustible supply of Russian gangsters over Amazi-Girl any day

>>86816243
When one Patreanon is released from his shackles, another comes to take his place

The time will soon come

>>86811878
I gotta say the art looks a lot cleaner and better now, dewd. someday, your art might actually be GOOD!

I especially like the girls' faces in panels 2 and 4, and annabeth's face too.

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>>86816903
Ooh, that was my request! Thanks a bunch, it turned out great!

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Patreanon here, sorry for the late post but I managed to get a early key to Sister Location and...and it's been fucked up.

>>86816966
Huh. So we were right about Billie comparing Dana to Ruth.

Sarah always makes me sad when she says sad things under her breath

>>86816966
And Carla was right

>>86816966
You know, with everyone posting old strips with Sarah and Billie, I feel like this strip makes at least a bit of sense. But it's been over 6 years since they met, and they have only barely interacted since then. One of many undercurrent plotlines Willis expects people to easily remember.

>>86816966

Ruth is a cunt and I don't get what redeeming value she could possibly have.

>>86817071
We get to fuck Billie vicariously through her

>>86816966
I was meaning to check out the Markiplier videos.

As for the strip, looks like another example of Joyce being happy, which I'm still betting is just a setup for her to be knocked down later down the road.

And both Billie and Sarah are in the wrong. As we've seen before, Sarah DID indeed start a beef with Billie, but Billie is projecting her own feelings about Ruth's hospital stay on to others.

Also, did we ever actually get to see Dana? I never caught that during my archive binge yesterday; I'm assuming if we did, it was in flashback.

>>86817039
Not necessarily. But the two cases ARE similar: Sarah thought that Dana would overdose on weed and die, while Carla assumed that Ruth would overdose on sleep and die as well.

>>86817045
Pretty much.
It's kind of like Homestuck at this point: It's so dense that you have to re-read it in its entirety every once in a while to catch things that were set up years in advance.

>>86817071
"She was my girlfriend and now she's in a hospital so I'm going to project the frustration I feel about my helplessness and take it out on the rest of you."

>>86817071
Lesbian is a redeeming quality

>>86817071
she was nice to billie a couple times, which stood out way more than they should of because ruth was usually horribly abusive to her, and billie was at the time beginning a bout of depression over losing everything she had in high school.

ruth doesnt have redeeming traits. billies just extremely vulnerable and was taken advantage of.

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>>86816966
>Water fountain
Code word for sneaking a drink I'm guessing.

Another weird conversation. Sarah is/was proud that she burned bridges with Billie, so it's weird that she has a problem with Billie being upset with her. But instead of her saying she's sorry for judging her or that she'd like to bury the hatchet for Joyce's sake, they just bypass that part to talk about the Dana thing, because otherwise Billie's previous remarks would've been left contextless for too long.

With the Dana stuff, there is a large difference other than Ruth's complete unlikability. Sarah went to Dana's friends for real help because she seemed like she wasn't recovering and no one helped her. She felt really trapped because Dana seemed okay with her friends but not so much so in her room. So she made the decision to call her parents. With Carla, there wasn't really an attempt to go to Billie for clarification, she just freaked out and got everyone involved.

>>86817107
Dana shows up in flashback

>>86817204
>So she made the decision to call her parents.
At least Sarah didn't call the cops or the university.

>she just freaked out and got everyone involved.
And somebody went straight to Ruth's boss.

>>86817121
That's right. Hell, wasn't Billie and Ruth's first interaction to try and fight?

>>86817300
Ah, that's what I figured.

>>86817318
Y'know, even Mary thought that calling Ruth's boss was overkill. I mean, sure, blackmail and all that, but given how the end result was a stay of indeterminate length at the local hospital, everybody seemed to react to Ruth being depressed as if she had a gun in one hand, a knife in the other, her head in a noose, and one leg ready to kick over a chair.

>>86817356
To be fair, the infamous gun-knife-noose-chair combo is notoriously difficult to pull off. Even if Willis wasn't a hack of an artist, he'd have trouble getting references.

Also, as we've pointed out in detail on here, Willis has no idea how to write someone who's trying to blackmail somebody. Hell, Mary was trying to prevent her own goal at the end: getting Ruth replaced as RA.

>>86817474
>Mary was trying to prevent her own goal at the end: getting Ruth replaced as RA.
thats a goal you made up for her. her actual goal was for ruth to do what she wanted, i.e. make the floor more christian. if she wanted ruth fired she couldve gone and reported her at any time.
a new RA would have even less reason to listen to mary than ruth did

>>86817540
The way I see it, there are two ways that Mary gets what she wants: she gets control over Ruth and thereby the hall (which is the better plan) or she ousts Ruth and gets someone who's less shit in general. The one time Mary actually tried to throw her weight around, it failed miserably, so I figured she'd take the consolation prize

>>86811878
Your comic sucks

>>86813525
>>86811878

This isn't funny. You're trying to parody DoA but your portrayal of rape is just fucking ghoulish. You are one fucked-in-the-head little kid.

>>86817540
She mostly just wanted Ruth to do her job. When she told Ruth about the whiteboard penises, all Ruth did was slap her.

She keeps trying to coerce Ruth into doing her job, and she's doing the Christianity pushes more as a bonus.

>>86819669
Meh, I'm learning.

>>86820249
You want to learn something? Don't do ""comics"" on actual traumas you've never been through. Or spoken to anyone about. Or experienced in any tangential way.

>>86820249

Are you? How so? What exactly have you learned? Because all I'm seeing is your shit go from being a fairly-innocuous-but-shit-and-unfunny comic to this fucking abomination that's bending over backwards so far to "parody" DoA that it itself has become what's so bad about Willis' writing; ham-handed bullshit and forced drama. Hell, you've even manage to do a worse job than the guy you're trying to make fun of.

The whole point of a parody is to create a humorous take on something that exposes it's flaws and traits for laughs. Your shit isn't funny. You're just doing all the same bullshit that Willis does, but with worse art and writing. And because it's so slavishly parroting DoA, it can't even stand up on it's own merits. It fails as both a parody and a comic.

>>86820387
Strictly speaking a parody doesn't have to be humorous. It's still salvageable as a work, but at this point either needs to switch to a deconstruction or highlight the incongruity of sudden dramatic moments in an otherwise light-hearted story.

>>86816966
>nobody likes Ruth

I mean, she isn't wrong!

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>>86820520

>Strictly speaking a parody doesn't have to be humorous

>parody - NOUN

>1. An imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.

It literally does have to be humorous though. If it's not funny, then it's either a failure of a parody or not a parody in the first place.

>>86820312
Get raped, you stupid cunt.

>>86820604
Well then it's a parody played straight.

>>86820604
The parody itself doesn't need to be humorous, just the juxtaposition. Wind Done Gone is a parody and isn't funny at all, the humor is only derived from comparing it to Gone with the Wind.

>>86820710

But you're not playing it straight.

>>86820728
How? This could help me in the future.

>>86820713

That's only a parody in the legal sense, though.

>>86820771
Gulliver's Travels then.

>>86819669
>>86820312
>>86820387

Hey, I chuckled.

>>86820810

Satire, a genre geared towards social criticism. Humour is often part of a good satire, but it's neither essential or the driving force behind it, as it is with parody.

>>86820838
Gulliver's Travels is also a parody of then contemporary travelogues.

>>86820972

No, it satirises them.

>>86820761
Bring back Skippy Skipperton.

To get raped.

>>86821043
Nah, I'm saving him for the parents day arc.

>>86821014
No, that would be Don Quixote and the knightly romance.

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>>86820246
I want Mary to be the only one besides Billie to visit Ruth in the hospital so they can pray together, a gesture Ruth does not appreciate.

>>86821073

Don Quixote is neither parody or satire.

>>86816966
So Carla has managed to absolve herself of outing Ruth and Billie, and effectively pinned it in Sarah?

>>86817356
Ruth destroyed Billie's is cheer leader uniform to show how serious she was yeah. Then there were the various fist fights. It turned into a 'I hate you, but I need you' kinda thing eventually.

>>86821482
I swear, Ruth and Billie's relationship needs to be outed as the poster-child example of an unhealthy codependency.

>>86820761

Honestly I'd say stop with the Willis comic. Focus on improving your craft and tightening your writing. Either put your efforts into your main comic or branch out with your secondary one. You're limiting yourself with your Willis comic. Why spend almost a year with this slavish attempt at parody? A good parody is short, snappy and memorable. If you can't parody something in a single strip or comic then don't bother. If you have to spend a year belabouring the point then it's just not funny. There's scope for longer-form parodies, but you have to be sure they're punchy and don't overstay their welcome. And they need to be even more focused than short-form parodies. Your parody just seems to amble along doing whatever comes next in it's counterpart, often with no actual joke or parody of what happened in DoA. You're not at the point where you can put out a long-form parody competently. You can't even manage short-form, so don't run before you can walk.

Look at the parodies that get constant reposts in these threads. The edits, or the Pleb "Rebecky" ones. They're direct and to the point, with immediate comedy pay-offs. You, however, spent a year wallowing in Willis' shitty run-offs. Furthermore, your parody isn't even recognisable as a parody. Assuming familiarity with the source material and without the context of you posting your shit in DoA threads, it's highly unlikely to click as a parody. You've neither aped Willis' art style or caricatured his characters; you've just subbed in your own.

>>86820761
>>86821767

As with anything, one of the best ways to git gud at something is to work at it and practice. If you seriously wanna get good at parody, change up what you're doing. Drop your Willis comic, and challenge yourself to parody something different with each new comic. Remember, the point of a parody to get laughs with exaggerated imitation. To do that the parody must be immediately recognisable as it's target material. Imitate, caricature, lampoon. If people don't recognise what you're parodying, then they're not getting the joke.

And it needs to have a point, a joke, a punchline. Don't just ape whatever Willis is doing for the sake of it, find your joke and play it up, like Pleb and the edits did with the DoA villification of Mary.

>>86821767
...Yeah, this guy knows what he's talking about

>>86817356
>Hell, wasn't Billie and Ruth's first interaction to try and fight?
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpsx-OWHfNc

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New strip time.

>>86821767
>>86821793
Well, I'm not going to drop this now that I've been doing for almost a year. and not all parodies have to be funny or constantly make fun of the source material.

Also it's still fun to do, so i just can't get myself to drop it, sorry dudes.

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>>86822223
Other strip.

>>86822223

>not all parodies have to be funny or constantly make fun of the source material

They LITERALLY DO or it's not a parody. Don't ask me how to make a fucking parody then just decide to redefine what the word fucking means when you're too lazy and complacent to take the advice YOU fucking asked for.

Christ, fuck Willis, you're as bad as Dobson at this point.

>>86822223
>sorry dudes
An apology is an admission of guilt, show of remorse and a commitment to change.

Basically, you can stuff your sorries in a sack.

I mean, come on, dewd, are you seriously going to spend this fucking long writing a shittier version of a shitty webcomic because Willis was mean to you on twitter?

You're not even making any jokes. You're just making the same thing and calling it a parody. Also the ersatz-Joyce gets raped but it's funny?

It's all just really pathetic. Like the guy above said, look at the Rebecky strip. It immediately hits on:

- Becky being an annoying cunt

- Mary being villainized for not putting up with annoying cunts

- The universe itself rushing to send a defender for Becky

- Willis' hatred of his parents and how he breaks down everyone who criticizes him into evil bigots

What are you trying to do? You aren't growing as a creator because you're wallowing in shit. You aren't growing as an artist because you're just running an ersatz DOA. The most biting moment of your parody was when Not!Joyce got raped by Tycho only you're playing this profoundly traumatic and horrifying moment for awkward comedy, and you can't even do that right.

>>86822538

>because Willis was mean to you on twitter?

Holy shit, really?

>>86822625
Oh yeah. Dewd posted a "I like Mary" thing or something and Willis pulled it up and laughed about it on his twitter. Dewd actually used to draw fanart for DOA.

It was super goddamned cunty of Willis, don't get me wrong. I actually like his retarded comic and I thought it was fucking ridiculous for a grown ass man to take time out of his day for something that fucking petty, but that level of autism is kind of expected by now from him.

>>86822414
I'm sorry, I thought that we established in this thread that parodys can be played straight.
>>86822538
Well, I've hated DoA for years, even before the Mary fanart debacle.

Either way I'm just covering all bases with this comic, it just that sometimes there's nothing much to make fun of.

Either way, I just like writing and drawing these characters. This comic is just for fun, I don't take it as seriously as my main comic.

>>86822736

>I'm sorry, I thought that we established in this thread that parodys can be played straight.

Non-one "established" that. You incorrectly stated that.

>>86822736
If you've got nothing to make fun of then don't fucking write the comic you dipshit! You're just retreading old ground and making it horribly uninteresting. Not even just unfunny; uninteresting.

"What is the most interesting thing that could happen to these characters right now, and why aren't we focusing on that" is the most basic question any content creator should think about, and you aren't because you think you need to "parody" all the time.

Like shit, look at that beautiful bastard Yotomoe. He draws incredible DOA fanart for us, shit his art is better than Willis', but he's not doing it as some kind of revenge exercise when he has Mary suck on Carla's enormous wiener.

Who are these people we're reading about? Why do they exist outside of being "parodies" of DOA? They don't even get to be characters themselves because you're just transplanting them onto scenes from the comic you're trying to rip on. There's nothing about Not Joyce that means anything outside of just being Not Joyce.

>>86822736

That isn't how genre works, fucknuts. By no means does a piece of work have to conform to genre standards, of course; a lot of the best works of fiction turn that shit on it's head to excellent effect.

Your comic does not do that. Your comic is shit.

You can't just say "I'm making a parody" then expect to be able to just redefine what parody fucking means. Genre redefinition and evolution is an organic process. You can't just say "hey yo this is what sci-fi is now" and throw down any old shit. You have to create something so new and original and innovative that everyone who reads it goes "holy this this is what sci-fi is now".

Protip: your comic is neither original or innovative. It's not even competent basic parody. You clearly know that on some level, or you wouldn't be alternating between asking for advice and moving the fucking goalposts about.

Learn to put out actual parody before you starting going around telling people what parody is or isn't. This shit is how and why genre even exists.

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Y'all need to learn about filtering tripcodes

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what the heck is going on in this thread?

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>>86822736
A parody played straight still has to find humor in the juxtaposition with the source.

As far as your recent strips go, >>86822223 and >>86822240 are the only parodies and you really only needed the first five panels.

I get that you like doing the strip, but instead of blowing through the plots you should sit down, pick a plotline, figure out what you want to parody, and how you want to parody it. Most importantly, figure out how to keep it brief. You're not Willis, you don't need padding, filler, or to run off on tangents.

>>86823178
We're discussing the nature of parody.

>>86822223
>not all parodies have to be funny or constantly make fun of the source material
Doesn't that just make it a bad imitation? If you take all the parody aspects out of a parody, it's just a ripoff.

>>86823692
Ok, I'll do less padding and filler.

or at least try.

>>86823756

delete system32

>>86824211
That whole speech Ruth gave about "fuck you up" was fucking hilarious. It literally only worked because the vast majority of the floor is tiny, fat women.

>>86817356
Yeah, they threatened each other at the first floor meeting. Ruth flipped Billie onto her back.

>>86824211
the only one I take issue with is the 4th one since the 2nd panel happened WAY earlier when Ruth first found out she liked Billie. But this is still pretty funny.

>>86824211
>>86824372
Everything Ruth does would make perfect sense if she had borderline personality disorder.

>>86823193
We know it's you dewd. You can stop trying to convince us that you have fans.

>>86824211
>>86825204
Yeah. Most of these are pretty consistent with mental illness and codependency. Even the Mary stuff makes a little bit more sense, now that I'm looking at it with the other stuff. Destroying the relationship looks better in her mind than letting someone else destroy it because she still retains some modicum of control.

I always liked Billie/Ruth because, unlike the other relationships in the comic, there's no arguing around the fact that it's fucked up. My only problem with it was that Willis would occasionally forget that it's supposed to be fucked up and give them a 'aww, aren't they cute?' moment. He does the same thing with Amazi-Girl, in that the storyline is starting to tend towards 'Being Amazi-Girl is fucking unhealthy for Amber', but still treats her vs. Ryan as this big hero moment.

Also, now that I think about it, how the hell did Mary get through the blackmail subplot without Carla OR Ruth beating the crap out of her? That's like blackmailing Batman after calling the Joker unfunny and getting off with 30 days of community service

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>>86825255
>accusing someone of samefagging
>on an anonymous forum site
You can't prove or disprove.
You can only assume

>>86825255
dubs deny___

>>86825255
>255
>maximum value representable by an eight-digit binary number
WHAT DOES IT MEAN

>>86825985

It means your comic is shit.

>>86826103
Oh shit, your right.

>>86825876
The positive moments you mentioned are a perfectly valid, and realistic, addition. A better writer would have them highlight and contrast the negative aspects for greater emotional impact. A Billie/Ruth relationship that has moments of genuine love and affection makes the dysfunction much more tragic than two assholes being assholes to each other. Amazi-Girl having this big heroic moment that, despite the positive impact it has on others, only further exacerbates and reinforces Amber's unhealthy mental state gives better pathos when she finally crumbles. Willis' problem is that his positive moments are 100% positive.

And I can see Ruth backing off because overplaying her hand could get outside authorities brought in, but Carla's got enough privilege that she could beat the shit out of Mary in public and probably get away with it.

>>86826338
Oh, yeah, that's what I meant. I mean, I've had enough experience with co-dependency with both a person and a coping mechanism to know that sometimes it works and it's alright . It's just that Willis always goes full positive because, as we all know, Willis has no control over tone

What I don't get is why Willis is so determined that Ruth sleeping with Billie will get her fired. It is within the realm of reason in the IU handbook, and he brushes it off every time it's mentioned. Why is it so important for her to get fired for this particular thing that is negligible compared to the other crap she's done? Why does it matter so, so much?

>>86826545
He wrote himself in a corner through ignorance and putting focus on the actual reasons she'd get fired would make her highly unsympathetic. Plus it's a lot easier to write about forbidden love than someone realizing that maybe they shouldn't hit people for trivial reasons.

>>86826545
The tension is that if Ruth gets fired, she has to move back home and live under her abusive grandfather.

Because Ruth has abusive parents too.

>>86826783
Was he abusive? I just thought he was kind of a prick.

And if you get fired from being an RA, that doesn't mean you get kicked out of school. She just has to find another place to live (or take the Willis route and live in the same dorm and hope no one notices you're still there)

>>86826819
The implication is that he's overbearing and controlling and, as you say, a prick. But if we ever see him, he'll be lumped into "abusive" like Amber and Becky's dads.

And yeah, that's true. She'd just need to live somewhere else until she finds permanent housing.

>>86826882
I mean, she can always move in with Becky.

I mean, we never really addressed the fact that Becky's continuing to mooch off of her friends, even though she already forced Joyce to compromise her ideals and break into a house to get her Social Security Card

>>86826783
>>86826819
>>86826882
More than likely she'd get assigned to an empty bed. The semester is already six weeks in so she's already paid her tuition. The biggest hit would be the loss of her stipend which would require her to get a job. Hell, it's entirely possible the university would waive her housing fee to not risk bad publicity or a lawsuit.

>>86826282
what about my right?

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So I saw this post last night and started reading. First thing I did when I got home today was pick up from where I had it bookmarked.

I fucking hate you people. I am like half way into this webcomic and I can't get away

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>>86827496
That's what these threads'll do to ya.

>>86827496
Welcome to hell, anon

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>>86827496

Yeah, I've been that way since like halfway through It's Walky. When Willis finally announced that Shortpacked was coming to an end, I thought I'd finally be out of all this shit.

I am not.

>>86827667
It's Walky was actually alright, as was Joyce and Walky (hence why I keep reposting the links)
Shortpacked was where it started to go down.
DOA is just garbage

>>86827667
>Shortpacked

I just looked at this

So is DoA a prequel or something? God damnit am I doing this out of order?

>>86827734

DoA is an alternate dimension reboot using all the characters from his old comics.

>>86827734
DoA is a continuity reboot, using characters from past comics (It's Walky, Shortpacked) but putting them back in a college setting (like his first comic, Roomies)

>>86827757
Fuck so I'm this invested in the spin-off? Oh well, it's one of the more consistent webcomics I've ever been through. I'll read the original when I'm caught up with DoA

>>86827800
itswalky.com
All his older stuff (Roomies, It's Walky, Joyce and Walky) is being re-uploaded in better quality and in best reading order.
All of Roomies is done and It's Walky is near the end of Book 2.

>>86827800
See >>86827632

>>86827496
I've been here since Toedad, don't bother to follow these threads regularly, and only read prior strips when I have to cite a source and I can still follow what is going on. Hell, last month I went over a week without internet and was still able to follow everything without going back and looking up what I missed. There is literally no reason to binge read DoA, much less read it regularly.

>>86826783
That's fine. What I want to know is why Willis is so deadset that being in a relationship with a resident is why she'd get fired. She has bigger issues, like all the assault and drunkenness.

>>86826976
Where I went, when you stop being an RA, you get put into a building you haven't worked in before. So she would just get moved to a dorm with an empty spot, yeah.

>>86827496
I'll give Willis this credit. His comic certainly does make you want to keep reading. Either through the (increasingly fleeting) endearing moments/characters but mostly because you want to see more of how this trainwreck is gonna play out. Plus the art's more innofensive than QC which actually makes me mad sometimes.

>>86827998
Ruth can get away with the assault because, in Willis's own words, she was better than literally any other option for RA.

By which he means, it's allowed because plot convenience

>>86828299
I actually find QC's art to be less crappy than DoA's. Jacques may go for weeks at a time with talking heads against plain backgrounds, but every once in a while, he'll do something interesting, which is more than DoA has ever done.

>>86828357
>I actually find QC's art to be less crappy than DoA's
Same.
I hate the fact that every DoA comic has the same exact 'Newspaper-comic' layout.

>>86828381
Willis would improve by so much if he just forced himself to do a double-sized 'Sunday' strip every once in a while.

Honestly, I don't know of any other 'newspaper strip' webcomic that doesn't switch it up at least occasionally

>>86828442
>Funky Winkerbean is more dynamic then DoA
really makes you think, huh

>>86828442
He keeps those dimensions so he doesn't screw up the printing ratios for his hardbound books of DOA.

So it's laziness for a minute change later on

>>86828573
Most of those newspaper comic layouts I mentioned earlier also have print books, so that's no goddamn excuse

>>86828357
>And the award for best RA of the year goes to Ruth Lessick!
>We've just been informed that Ruth has been arrested on multiple accounts of assault and battery, sexual assault, sexual harassment, destruction of property, and public intoxication.
>The award will now go to the runner-up, AIDSRape von Kindermord.

Jacques had the lead up to Claire and Marten dating be fairly interesting.

>>86828573
If true there is nothing stopping him from doing the occasional half or full page strip.

>>86828442
When you're as much of a master of the form as Willis, you never need to mix it up.

>>86828381
Agreed. I like the size of Shortpacked strips because it actually gave the "jokes" a little room to breathe.

>>86828712
Hell, Homestuck has a print release, and that comic has animations.

I'd just chalk it up to Willis being lazy and/or incompetent again.

>>86829118
And stubborn.

>>86822625
He also sent Willis porn of Joe and Joyce. He seems to never mention that.

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>>86822538
I thought he was literally just taking DoA strips and MS-Painting over them, adding shitty captions along the way

Are you telling me this autist actually thinks he's writing a coherent parody?

>>86829782
To be fair that's actually pretty great. Someone from here also sent him Danny/Ethan porn with Amber getting cucked that he posted on his twitter.

.>>86829942
Turns out the only person thedewd is parodying is himself.

And I can say that because I just decided parody means something new now so shut up.

>>86820520

Youre thinking satire

>>86820838

Yes. Boctor Strangelove was satire, and wasn't particularly funny

>>86826545
>What I don't get is why Willis is so determined that Ruth sleeping with Billie will get her fired. It is within the realm of reason in the IU handbook, and he brushes it off every time it's mentioned. Why is it so important for her to get fired for this particular thing that is negligible compared to the other crap she's done? Why does it matter so, so much?


That's the thing about crazies. Even the most illogical lines of thought can seem logically sound to them.

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>>86831368

>Doctor Strangelove
>wasn't particularly funny

Black comedy is the fucking best shit

>>86823178
I've got a certain motherfucker with his shitty parody comic filtered, so everything is peachy.

>>86831569
Speaking as a certified crazy, in-universe it would make sense that Ruth would think that. If you've found the one thing in your life that makes you feel less hollow inside (even if it is harmful to you), you get paranoid about people taking it away from you.

Doesn't explain why Billie doesn't point out that sleeping with a student and underage drinking isn't half as bad as literally everything she did to Billie until the kiss, plus dickslapping Mary

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>>86831569
Honestly, I think we're meant to take the physical abuse as being played for laughs or as a personality quirk of Ruth's, rather than some actual shit going down.

I guess we're supposed to imagine a laugh track after Ruth suplexes Billie.

>>86831834
"Ruth DOES perpetrate a lot of abuse, but she looks cute in a negligeé so I'll let it pass."

>>86826783
Or Ruth could just get a job and live on her own since she is older than 18.

>>86832226
>Ruth and Becky both get a job at the Chik-Fil-A

>>86826545
I wouldn't be surprised if/when we see the Resident Manager give her formal explanation for Ruth losing her job, she just ignores the sororization.

>Ruth, I'm afraid you''ve lost the RA position.
>I know, because I was sleeping with Billie-
>What? I don't care about that at all! You've been threatening and assaulting residents, drinking alcohol and providing it to this underaged student who is an alcoholic, you let someone blackmail you instead of carrying out their discipline and sensitivty training, you gave a piss poor meeting with terrible attendance after the shooting, and there's long periods without your presence on the floor. Oh, and there's the whole suicidal depression you kept from us. You can do whatever you want with a student as long as it's legal and you can both consent , it's not a big deal, but the rest of this is in no way acceptable behaviour.
>So I kicked Billie out of my room for nothing?
>Pretty much.

If they don't I'll do an edit.

>>86832642
They should get a job at Galasso's restaurant. He's the only character that I trust Willis to write dialogue for.

>>86832792
You forgot that Ruth never does any desk duty at the dorm either. That alone would have gotten her fired weeks ago.

>>86832862
If he did that he might be forced to give Lucy and Ken actual personality traits.