Is he redpilled, /co/?

>>86801293
Careful, anon. Mods are PADfags and deleted the last thread.

>>86801396
Wow. What did he do?

>>86801396
>PADfags
>wanting to censor discussion of his opinion on g*****s

>>86801454
Openly shat on gypsies on a panel at NYCC in response to a "Romani activist".

>>86801454
Supposedly said something negative about gypsies and the whole thread turned into "why gypsies are the worst".

>>86801454

http://panopticblast.tumblr.com/post/151446127869/okay-some-more-detail-on-the-peter-david-is

>Everything was fine until the Q&A. The second person up introduced himself as a Romani activist, and launched into what wasn’t so much a question as a long plea for writers to stop using the g-slur and for his people to get better representation. He ended by lobbing a super-softball “do you guys agree” question at the panel.

>At that point, before anyone else could speak, David glared at the man and said something along the lines of “do you really want to ask me that question.” The room went dead silent. He then launched into a diatribe about having been in Romania “for the movies” (not really sure what that meant) and seeing a child pulling “itself” along behind its mother because both of its legs were broken. His guide then told him that “g*****s do that to their own children to make people want to give them money” (paraphrasing). David concluded by telling the man (again, paraphrasing) “I saw those broken children, so don’t complain to me about the suffering of the Romani people”. When the man tried to respond from the back of the room, David shouted “I don’t care” over and over, eventually driving the man out of the room. People were fucking shocked. A lot of people in the audience were muttering “no dude” and “stop” while he was getting into it, and everyone was clearly uncomfortable, but the Q&A kept going for a few more minutes. As the panel ended and everyone was walking out, David leaned in to the microphone and apologized, saying that “the Romani situation is a very sensitive subject” to him.

>>86801605
>people in the audience were muttering "no dude" and "stop"
>the Romani situation is a very sensitive subject

where were you when Peter David lost his mind

>>86801293
Will he be blacklisted, /co/?

>>86801782
I blame Marlel killing off Madrox.

>>86801494
>>86801510
>>86801605
Awesome. I might read some of his stuff then. We need more people willing to step up for what they believe in, even if it may not be politically correct/offends people. Why should one person's experiences be erased simply because it hurts another's feelings?

>>86801782
>hating the scum of the earth is losing your mind

>>86801804
Just because you experienced/saw something that left an impact to you doesn't mean you can literally use a slur in a mass printed piece of media and not at least expect someone to ask you not to use the slur.

>>86801605

Awesome.

Gypsies/"Romani" are the one group where the stereotypes are 100% accurate across the board. Seriously, Americans really don't know because they don't have to deal with them like we do. They are absolutely the worst; Syrian refugees pale in comparison to these fucks.

>>86801819
I was more referencing him losing his shit at a panel discussion and doing something that was clearly very awkward. Regardless of what he's talking about going on an emboldened diatribe in a situation like that is usually a bad sign.

>Peter David.

>The new Chuck Dixon

Why must all the good ones be blacklisted?

>>86801879
Hm you may be right.
Either he is losing it or he was planing to retire so thought he may as well go out with an important statment.

>>86801819
You can't pinpoint a single race or group as scum of the earth dumbass. Not everyone is the same.

I found out what he meant by going to Romania "For the movies".

In the mid-90s, Peter David was in fact in Romania for the production of three films: "Trancers 4: Jack of Swords", "Oblivion", and "Oblivion 2: Backlash". They were cameo appearances; however, he had written the films. I'd assume he was also on set for "Trancers 5: Sudden Deth", which he did not appear in but did write.

>>86801804
I agree with this
why should people not think a whole group of people are bad due to a bad experience

>>86801849
>gypsy is a slur

what
Is "black" a slur now too? Who decides what words are slurs and what words aren't? I never viewed "gypsy" as a slur, and I haven't ever heard of it that way either until now. Is this a new tumblr meme or something?

>>86801927
>I never viewed "gypsy" as a slur, and I haven't ever heard of it that way either until now.

Well you're either stupid or incredibly sheltered.

>>86801605
>Peter David went on to describe how he may not support Hitler, but respects his decision to get rid of one of the most sub human species on the planet.

>He later apologised and said that “the Romani situation is a very sensitive subject”

>>86801927
>this post will NEVER EVER get a response

>>86801605
But that's quite accurate. Anyone who had any experience with "Romani" communes in Europe can attest that this particular example may be a bit extreme, but is indicative of the prevailing cultural climate.

These "Romani activists", who are among like 10% of school-educated among their people, would do well to try fixing shit in their own communities, although they know they'd be told to get the fuck out and never show their ass again if the tried raising some shit.

>>86801903
>Chuck Dixon
>good

>>86801927
I think they don't wanna be called that so they're trying to get people to stop using it?

Even plebbit is defending PAD. How different would the response be if it was Frank Miller in PAD's place?

>>86802015
well we all know that Frank is crazy so I think it'd be pretty unsurprising

>>86801987
Because it brings to mind how horrible they are. A new name washes away all sins.

Why they dont just stop being terrible instead i do not know.

>>86801959
No, I've had conversations with plenty of people about gypsies and everyone was using it as if it were a normal word rather than a slur. I thought it was the proper way to refer to those people.

>the day PAD became the new idol of /pol/

>>86801984
Hey, he's entertaining. And he doesn't try to shove his agenda in company-owned characters, unlike PAD.

>>86802092

I guess you missed the shitstorm that accompanied Pacific Rim and it's robot named "Gypsy Danger"?

If you live under a rock, that's your own fault.

>>86801605
>Being this based

>>86802110
I don't pay attention to popular stuff. I read comics, bud. I don't know why you're trying to belittle me for not having knowledge of pop culture.

>>86801927
Some people would say nigga or nigger are, and I guess to Romani people, it's the same. I wouldn't exactly say that they on the same level, but I'm not Romani.

I mean, the word gypsy is used to describe more than just Romanis now, to the point where it's just an insult for people who live in mobile homes and do fortune telling and shit.

It's like if a guy went up on stage and asked that no one call him gay because it's an insult and he'd rather be called homosexual. It's weird, but I'm straight and I haven't been through the same shit he has, so I'd want to respect that.

As for Tumblr memes, that demiromantic pansexual shit I saw in some fanart made my head spin. This is not on that level.

>>86801293
The real issue with what PAD did, was lose his shit in a public gathering in which some of his fans have come to hear about his work.

He can say whatever the fuck he wants on his own time, all he had to do was politely ignore the Romani man, maybe let someone say something since he clearly got upset by the question.

Losing your shit during a panel is never a good thing.

>>86802108
>And he doesn't try to shove his agenda in company-owned characters
Riiiiiight

>>86801984
Dixon is good, notmuhDick.

>>86802183
OK; give me examples that prove me wrong then. I've read his Batman only.

Gypsies are the only race where the negative stereotypes apply to the majority of the population. They are sub human trash and are a plague upon Europe

Peter David is a fat kike rat.

>>86802193
I like Dixon but he definitely writes from the conservative perspective. In Knightfall he had a Rush Limabugh expy saying "common sense" stuff without any hint of parody you'd expect from a liberal writer, over a decade later in his Outsiders run he had Batman, world's greatest detective, say he had no idea Grace and Thunder were a couple.

>>86802129
>I don't pay attention to popular stuff

Oh you rebel you're such a free thinking special snowflake oh my god.

Someone gonna do a storytime for his works at some point?

>>86802059
This has never happened. People and the media reacted badly to everything he has done lately. Nobody bats an eye over towards PAD only because he's your neighbourhood SJW.

>>86802193
All those he said gay people don't belong in comics
>inb4 he's right
Doesn't matter, that's still injecting your agenda in corporate-owned comics.

>>86802230
No? I pay attention to what I like rather than what's popular. If what I like happens to be popular then so be it. You really think that's a bad quality? What is wrong with you?

>>86802217
All stereotypes exist for a reason.

>Spider-Man 2099 will be given to Slott or Bendis
>Based PAD will never have a job in the industry again

Fuck.

>>86802243
He also revolted against using a HIV positive character in a Punisher storyline.

>>86801605
>He then launched into a diatribe about having been in Romania “for the movies” (not really sure what that meant)
Trancers 4 and 5. I remember the BID columns he wrote about it, including some pictures of the crippled children he was talking about.

>>86802263
Would DC take him back?

>>86802243
So did Jim Shooter. Your point?

>>86802322
Nah, mutual animosity between him and Didio. Didio hated Young Justice and publicly slammed it.

>>86802322
They already have Frank Miller as a household teabagger.

>>86802263
It's been mediocre tho. Nobody would care if it gets cancelled or turned to shit.

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>>86802366
Miller is a Hillshill. I'm sure he supported her failed ventures in Lybia and Syria.

>>86802243
>he said gay people don't belong in comics
How is revolting against a political agenda itself a political agenda? You have to take what they give no matter what?

You've effectively fabricated a catch-22. "You can't add political things into your work and not wanting to add a certain political thing is in itself political." How is NOT adding something inherently political?

>>86802243

Comic books are loaded with agenda, anti-Muslim and anti-French prejudice.

>>86801468
Gingers?
Gooooks?

>>86801494
I can assure you. If you lived anywhere in Europe you would also shit on gypsies like any normal person would if you ever had to deal with them.

>>86802395
Yeah, he repented being a teabagger once they diagnosed him with cancer; I guess he was scared of dying and going to Hell. So now he will be a good boy and stay quiet.

>>86802395
Hillary is a neocon, all the neocons of the Bush period are supporting her.

>>86801927
>Is "black" a slur now too?
Of course. The politically correct term is "colored" now.

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>>86802450
"of color," "colored" is a slur. PC language is just a status signifier thing because the complicated, ever-changing rules can only be memorized with those with a lot of time to keep up with it.

>>86802450

It's "person of color." "Colored" is still considered a slur.

Of course because the rules are constantly changing and no one can ever agree, who fucking knows for sure anymore.

>>86802533
>It's "person of color." "Colored" is still considered a slur.
But they're the same!

>>86802533

Person of Color dates back to MLK

>>86802533
When will the NAACP be accused of race-betrayal and Uncle Tomfoolery?

>>86801853
Christ what they do I always assumed they where just a group of assholes who mostly kept to themselves

>>86802230
WTF is wrong with you. You pathetic loser

>>86801293
Why the fuck would you bring up Romani representation at the X-Men LGBT panel when there was a Race and Sexuality panel that day? Whoever asked the question was a moron and didn't think this shit through.

>>86802557

But it's now the accepted PC term for nonwhites.

By the way, you can't say "nonwhite" either because that implies that not being white is somehow abnormal.

Why would you immediately believe that someones parents would do that to their kid? Why would that affect you so much that you would think that it would be a good idea to go into a ethnically charged tirade in public? This is insane.

>>86802501
>>86802533
>"of color"
>"colored"
Literally the same shit, except that in one the attributive is a participle and the other is connected to a preposition.

>>86802605

more shitty effects from retconning Magneto as Wanda and Pietro's dad so now people think they're X-Men

>>86802636

i don't even know what you're talking about? the post i responded to implied POC was some new thing and I was pointing out it goes back to the Civil Rights era

>>86801293
A joke's a joke and all but gypsies are not people. If yoi'vd never met one then don't fight for their rights.

>>86802682
Gypsies are utter scum. Can't stand them and my town is fucking infested with them. Every time there's any kind of crime spree; it's one of their brood. I hate them all and would love to maximum genocide them.

>>86801853
Why the are people letting them get away with trying to steal Romanness, anyway?
Like yeah, sure, whatever, they aren't actually from Egypt. But they sure as hell aren't even as much inheritors of anything about anything Roman.

At least Romanians have a vulgarized Latin to claim their name from.

>>86802682
>>86802704
Pathetic human beings. You make me sick

>>86802737
How much do you wanna bet they don't even know any of them and are just sheltered white kids looking to stir shit?

>>86802707
wat?

>>86801959
You're an imbecile and sheltered as fuck. Gypsies prefer to be referred to as gypsies, not romani.

>>86802737
But they are not the gypsies anon.

>>86801605
Great, now Marvel broke PAD.

>>86802774
In the USA that will get you in trouble and possibky a big fat ugly guy will try and fight you

>>86802605
Progressiveness is just like collecting pogs or stamps. You gotta add more and more to your collection, no matter what.

A gay character is rookoe level. What you want is wrote an aroflux mesoplatonic demisexual stratogender transwomyn Of Colour—pronouns žH'ë/xhuŕŕ/xhý3ß—with vitiligo and palsy and missing both legs.

>>86802766
>t even know any of them
I'm Romanian. I've seen more gypsies than you've seen dogs.

>>86802774
something something internalized-racism

>>86802824
Yet you defend gypsies. It's not nice to lie on the internet

>>86801804
>We need more people willing to step up for what they believe in

But what happens when you don't agree with that person? What happens when the same person puts these views you don't agree with in their own work. Do you still want people "standing up for what they believe in"?

>>86802824
You got internet in caravans now?

>>86802322
Yeah. He's writing the first Nightwing Annual

>>86802846
What? No. I'm >>86802682

>>86802871
>But what happens when you don't agree with that person?
WELL THEN I GUESS WE DISAGREE, ANONYMOUS.

>>86802501
>you are baiting me, ma!

Just like /co/.

>>86802888
Calling a romanian a gypsy is the same as calling a caucasian american a nigger. Except worse and far more racist.

>>86802888
Romanians are not Gypsies. They are probably the worst hit by the gypsie plague and will fight you if you compare them to those rats

>>86802501
It's crazy how many people I've met that think people of color is some new word.

>>86802871
>What happens when the same person puts these views you don't agree with in their own work.
Then they go bankrupt because nobody's buying their stuff? See Marvel's progressive comics for that. Vote with wallets.

>>86802888
He said Romanian not Romani. You monglet

>>86802915
I'm only asking because this is the same board that complains about creators putting their personal beliefs or opinions into their work, but only seem to be for a creator doing something like that when they agree with the message. So I was wondering if you actually meant standing up for what they believe in or standing up for what you agree with

>>86802766
I just told you, the rats are all over the place. They need to be wiped out.

>>86803149
people like you really grind my fucking gears to no end.

>>86801605

Kek, this reads like some fucking copypasta, man, what the fuck. Is he doing something with gypsy charcters or something? Why would they even ask him that?

>>86802737
>>86802784
Yeah, at least they're human!
:^)

>>86801293
PAD's quite left wing, he just really hates Gypsy culture.

Honestly Marvel has some of the most positive depictions of Romani in media.

>>86802310
BID columns? I'd like to find it.

>>86802366
>>86802395
Miller's more of a Neocon interventionist post 9/11, so's hill.

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>>86802231
Pretty sure he's pro-Israel. Your interest is unwarranted, /pol/

He still writes fun comic books, if you're actually into that sort of thing.

>>86803322
He's more of a Pro twostate.

Also generally down with gays, against anti-abortion vigilantes etc.

>>86803322
Go for it. I just think he should get some support for sticking to his beliefs when people might ACTUALLY oppress him (by making him lose his job).

>>86803322
PAD is the biggest SJW of the past 30 years to have a consistent job in superhero comics

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>PAD is literally favorite Marvel author
>/co/ thinks he's SJW because of pic related
>now people are going to call him redpilled because he sperged out on gypsies

This is the worst.

>>86801796
nah, he didnt attack jews or niggers, he is safe.

>>86803579
Was... was there never a follow-up punchline illustrating that that's the exact thing Zeus would do?

>>86803649
It was more sold as Herc realizing that's the exact kind of thing Zeus would do and felt shitty for acting like Zeus.

>>86803252
http://www.peterdavid.net/2010/07/23/romania-travelogue-part-3/
>Outside the department store, I spot a beggar. Not a “homeless person” or an “indigent” or any name that takes the sting out of it. A beggar. At first I don’t comprehend what I’m seeing. The old man is wearing his shirt open, and appears to have a flesh-colored snake around his shoulder, moving and twitching spasmodically. My guide is not getting too close. I stay back, pull out my camera and zoom in so that I can understand what I’m viewing.

>Most of his right arm is gone. The bare flesh is flapping around like a bony kite stuck on a tree.

>I’m on autopilot. I snap his picture, feeling unclean, and go over and put 500 lei in his box to try and wash myself.

>We go into the department store, take the escalator to the third floor. As we pass the second, I can’t believe what I see.

>A child, a girl, somewhere between five and eight years old, is following her mother, calling after her. Her skin is dark. She might have been beautiful, if given a chance.

>She is on her knees. Walking on her knees.

>Sort of.

>Her legs don’t bend back. They are bent forward, at the knees.

>Her body is teetering at about an 80 degree angle, like a Gumby or a collapsing marionette. She half-pulls, half-shuffles along, sliding on her calves.

>My guide sees what I’ve spotted. His face is impassive.

>“What the hell is wrong with her?” I whisper. Grasping at the only explanation I can, I say, “Chernobyl?”

>“Gypsies,” he replies.

>I don’t understand, and tell him so.

>“You see a lot of gypsy children like that,” he explains. “When they’re a few months old, sometimes their parents break their knees or their elbows, or put out an eye. They figure it will help them make more money when they beg.”

>I nod.

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>>86803693
Eh, it's not that SJWy; it seems like he was acting like Thor was in Sandman.

>>86803744
>We are looking at chairs, but I’m picturing a child who looks like my eight-year-old daughter, walking on reversed knees, calves scraping along the floor making sounds like sandpaper. We are buying the chairs, but I’m picturing a baby who looks like the smiling one waiting for me at home, howling as a mallet or a sledge hammer or maybe a jagged rock shatters her joints.

>We get the chairs, and go out a different exit. There’s another gypsy child, begging. A boy. His legs go the wrong way. I’m in a Stephen King novel and can’t close it. I take his picture from behind, unable to face him.

>I buy a case of Coke for the cast, get back into the van, and almost break down.

>I return to the set but am unable to remain. I can’t get into filming make believe. A number of off-duty cast members are going into town. I go with them.

>We see no more Roger Corman-esque children. But there is one boy, begging, who is being yanked to his feet by his father, yelling at the boy and clearly prepared to cuff him because however much money he might have taken in to that point, it obviously wasn’t enough.

>Clabe Hartley, who portrays our main villain, is watching. Clabe has a stone-cold dangerous stare. Clearly he’s considering whether or not to make a move. Clabe’s in terrific shape, versed in various fighting techniques; he could take the guy apart. The problem is that Clabe would wind up in jail, and the child would wind up in traction or on a slab when his father got through taking out his humiliation on the boy.

>I’m not sure whether the father is aware Clabe is observing him. Perhaps he is, because abruptly he settles for yanking the boy to his feet and dragging him away. Clabe paces him for half a block, moving like a panther, still weighing options, before slowing and turning away.

>>86803776
>There’s nothing he can do.

>Nothing anyone can do.

>The boy was walking properly, and had two eyes and two ears.

>I find myself wondering whether he still will meet all those conditions tomorrow.

>Thoughts of concerts and practical jokes and nice dinners and the magic of movies are a million miles away. I wish I were a million miles away as well.

>God, get me the hell out of here.

Literally what the actual fuck are gypsies? They're real? I thought they were make believe like witches or warlocks.

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>>86803906

>>86801849
"Gypsy" is a slur? But I see it used all the time.

On a scale of African American to Nigger, how bad is it? Is it the equivalent of "black"? Modern society has started pushing that descriptor as racist now too.

>>86803906
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gypsy

>>86803749
You misunderstand, people thought it was SJWy because they don't read comics. They just saw the cropped panels and pretend they always hated PAD until this morning when they saw the Gyp freak out.

>>86801605
did they seriously censor the word "gypsies"?

>>86802346
woah, this is the first time I've heard of that. Sauce?

>>86801927
>What's the big deal? Since when is it a crime to say porch monkey?

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Did media lie to me?

>>86803992
>Why would tumblr censor non-PC language?

>>86802154
If it's an issue he's passionate about, and he was asked directly, what's wrong with giving his honest feelings on the matter?

I'd agree with what you're saying if he showed up to his panel in a FUCK GYPSIES shirt and started badmouthing them before and after every question he's asked, but he's just replying with what he honestly believes. I don't think he should have to hold his tongue because it's gonna hurt some feelings.

>>86803744
>>86803776

Jesus fuck. PAD may have gotten overzealous but he's totally in the right here.

>>86803744
Thats disgusting. gypsies are horrible.

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>>86804003
Yes, the Disney jews indocrinated you into thinking Follo did anything wrong.

>>86803776
>>86803806
>I don't understand the language and have no idea what the father is saying. It must be because the boy didn't beg enough and now the father will most likely kill him if we step in.

>>86804031
You can give your honest feelings on an issue without losing your composure.

>>86803954
>But I see it used all the time.
They're an isolationist tribe of people in some Eastern European countries. And they are really fucking sketchy from what I've heard.
As I said, they like to keep to themselves and nobody outside their community really wants to go to bat for them.
Hell, this one girl just tried and she got yelled out of the room because one guy had just seen too much of their shit.

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>>86803744
>>86803776
>>86803806


That's some like The Slavers tier shit.

>>86803693
If only the artist hadn't been worse than Greg Land. Maybe one would've been able to tell it by the art.

>>86804062
I'm the most bleeding-heart liberal progressive I know, but even I acknowledge there are some cultures not worth tolerating.

>>86803999
http://www.peterdavid.net/archives/004625.html
>A message buried deep in the Bush thread asked me to comment on Dan Didio's various assertions about "Young Justice" in a Heroes Con interview quoted on Newsarama. First he complained about the quality of the book's sales, stating that a book which features such iconic characters should have far higher numbers. And second he asserted that "Slobo" ruined the character of Lobo.

>The aspect that Dan perpetually leaves out of his two-part evisceration of "Young Justice" is that YJ was specifically designed to appeal to a younger readership. That was the mandate from editorial. That's what I was asked to write. YJ was intended to skew young--in its stories, in its subject matter, in its readership--with the notion that it would draw in younger readers who would eventually "graduate" to the older-skewing titles. I was told at the outset that DC neither expected nor needed the book to sell huge numbers; it was aiming at the long-term goal of bringing in new, younger readers. So his complaining about the quality of the sales is irrelevant...not to mention that YJ outsold "Impulse" and "Superboy," both of which were also cancelled, and even he admits the book was turning a profit. So pointing to these iconic characters--characters so "iconic" that DC did away with them--and complaining that sales didn't reflect their presence is really beside the point.

>>86804132
>
>As for Slobo, I wanted to introduce a Wolverine-esque character to stir things up. Since the book featured junior versions of Superman, Batman, and the Flash, a junior version of Lobo seemed perfectly appropriate. A character who was, in his execution and handling, far more serious than Dan remotely gives him credit for (because, y'know, having Slobo go slowly blind was such a knee-slapper of a storyline). And, frankly, I think that a company that raped and murdered Sue Dibny, murdered Blue Beetle, tortured and crippled Batgirl, and had both Superman and Wonder Woman at various times cold-bloodedly murder opponents, doesn't get to say that *I* ruined one of their characters.

>>86801293
He always was. He defended Orson Card

>>86803580
Did you not know it's chic to hate the jews now?

>>86801927
It baffles me too.

>>86804155
That whole situation is still bullshit.

>>86801980
PAD was actually very polite
Gypsies do much much worse stuff

>>86804155
2based

>>86804055
Wrong. You don't show your honest feelings in USA. Not publicly, at least

>>86804049
Fair point. What remains is that the father almost beat up his son in the streets. And that he sent him into the streets as a beggar in the first place.

>>86801605

Sorry anons I have never a gypsy and have no opinion on the matter but there's nothing based about going full RRREEEEEEEE and just screaming your opinion at the room until the discussion is abandoned .

This /pol/ tier arguing trash. Whether he was right or wrong he looks wrong to me because if he had a legit point to make he could have made it and won the argument without just bullying the room into not wanting to communicate with him anymore.

>>86804266
Or maybe it wasn't as bad as it was and someone exaggerated. It's like people like to blown things out of proportion...

>>86802891
SAuce?

>>86804286
Or maybe his time in Romania fucked him up.

>>86804286
>David shouted “I don’t care” over and over

There's not really a lot of room for exaggeration here. Either he did this, which is straight up sperging out, or he didn't and the article is lying.

>>86804286

Ok but I'm just responding to the facts as they were presented like literally everyone else in this thread.

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>>86804155
>Orson Card
Who?
>google: ...is a novelist
Ah. This page.
I was wondering who the exact real-life counterpart was who inspired this straw-man.

Gypsy is not a slur. It just isn't. It diminishes the true power of pointing out a slur because of how bullshit it is. It's the fucking participation trophy of "slurs" in this modern SJW bubble.

>>86804307
And maybe I can't blame him

>>86804327
Sauce, other than tumblrpost?

>>86804376
very soon using the word "human being" will be a slur.

>>86804366
Seems fairly in-character for Pietro honestly.

>>86804411
Did you just assume my species?

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Most Americans seem to think that Gypsies are a made up magical creature like leprechauns or get their opinions from the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
They have no idea what it's like living with a people whose *entire* culture is based on parasitism and who believe that they literally have divine sanction for theft.

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>>86804411
as it should be, flatscan anon, as it should be

>>86804443
oh no taht lizard didn't

>>86804366
Well, Orson Scott Card crossed with I guess Rupert Murdoch?

>>86804468
it's not divine sanction. it's basically a culture that is proud of being thieves. it's their way of life

>>86804468
bold as fuck

>>86804366
To be fair, Danger being a robot means she wouldn't understand our human tendency to attach/transfer qualities from persons to objects. It's the whole Hitler's sweater experiment thing, only with a book/story instead.

And I wouldn't call it a strawman. Neither Pietro or Danger are using a simple easy to defeat version of their arguments so it can be easily defeated by the writer's mouthpiece. Both viewpoints seem to be given equal importance.

>>86804509
No seriously, the gypsy religion states that a gypsy stole the nails that were to be used in Jesus' crucifixion forcing them to delay the event until replacements could be found and thus God gave them divine sanction to take things from other people.
I swear I am not making this up.

>>86804470
Shut up Homo.

>>86804388
Many other tumblrposts from people that were there. cant find anything else.

>>86804432
Well, yes. It's not really a straw-man. More of a needlessly artificial situation.
Danger is the one that's maybe out-of-character here, but then David basically overwrote her personality that run anyways. But he gave reasons for it and he did it well, so I don't mind about that. What remains is that this whole scene still serves as PAD's soapbox.

>>86804488
Well it is not a complete stand-in, obviously as that character gets used later that issue.

>>86801293
Considering he pretty pro-lgbt, not normally by most anons.
but there's
>Politically, David identifies himself as liberal.[188] He was critical of the George W. Bush administration in general,[189] and the Iraq War in particular,[190][191] as well as other Republicans[192][193] and the religious right.[194] He has spoken out in favor of Israel's right to defend itself from aggressors, and has opined that certain criticisms of Israel indicate bias and double standards.[195] He favors gun control,[196][197] and holds progressive or liberal views on LGBT issues, including favoring gay marriage[38][39] and allowing openly homosexual individuals to serve in the military.[198] He opposes capital punishment.[190][199][200] He is an advocate of freedom of speech,[197][201] having criticized various publicized instances of censorship in general,[202] such as the targeting of comic book retailers for prosecution for selling certain comic books,[188][203] and the Comics Code Authority in particular.[204] He is a promoter and activist for the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, which comes to the aid of such creators and retailers.[205] He has criticized ideas associated with liberalism or political correctness,[16] such as certain publicized cases of alleged sexual harassment or discrimination that he deems unfounded,[206] and has not shied away from criticizing liberals and Democrats,[207] including Bill Clinton,[208] Al Gore,[190] Hillary Clinton,[209] Michelle Obama,[210] Caroline Kennedy[193] and Barack Obama.[211]

>>86804558
Sounds made up considering they don't believe in Jesus.

>>86802396
How is a character being gay political?

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>>86801293

>redpilled

Is he our guy now?

Gypsies really should be in the same category as Scientologists and Mormons where it's basically OK to make fun of them because their culture is so goddamn stupid and they CHOOSE to be a part of it.

Also reminder to anyone who is not actually aware of how Tumblr's PC brigade community is that there is a lot of infighting about what groups are legitimately in need of protection and representation and gypsies/Romani are literally the most controversial.

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>>86801293
Kike,rat.

>>86801853
>Seriously, Americans really don't know because they don't have to deal with them like we do.
There are actually around one million Romani in the USA, it's just not noticeable since most of them were pretty much completely assimilated into the local culture, unlike what happened in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_Americans

>>86804690
See /pol/ this is the sort of shit that's gonna get Hiroshima to delete your board

http://www.comicsbeat.com/nycc-16-anti-romani-statements-made-at-x-men-lgbtq-panel/
>Other Romani fans approached him after the panel, while the room switched over. They told him that what he had seen was not reflective of the Romani people. One gave the example that just because the US has school shootings doesn’t mean everyone in the US is violent.

David maintained that the story he shared was indicative of the Roma culture. David has written Roma characters, most notably Pietro Maximoff in X-Factor.

Romani attendees have been asking other panelists about representation at other Q&As ay NYCC.

I approached David after the panel to say literally “I love you man but people used to claim that we [Jews] put the blood of Christian children in our matzo. That doesn’t make it true.”

He responded that he saw families like that one all over Romania.

>>86804721
Based melting pot.

>>86801293

No, he's Joss Whedon levels of SJW himself.

https://youtu.be/KXy8S6EkfJ0

>>86804721
Then that's beside the point. Ethnically, Romani are not the problem. The culture is the problem.

>>86804558
Jesus Christ

>>86804528
>Both viewpoints seem to be given equal importance.
The way Danger plays it perfectly calmly while Pietro is emotional about it, seems like a device to discredit him in the eyes of the audience.
It's a technique often seen in straw-man situations which is why I originally used that term.

The emotional guy being immediately less sympathetic is pretty much the whole subject of this thread it seems.

>>86804528
That's something PAD is frequently quite good at.

Sometimes he fucks up though.

>>86804741
It'll never happen. The risk of them migrating to other boards is too high. It's basically containment.

>>86804795
Yeah that guy

>>86804809
Eh, when moot deleted /new/ there was a bit of spread but it wasn't too bad. The existence of /pol is pretty much like a magnet.

>>86803954
>On a scale of African American to Nigger,

should have said "on a scale of Person of Color to Colored Person"

>>86804756
>Jews put the blood of Christian children in our matzo.
>That doesn’t make it true.
liar

He isn't redpilled. He just has an informed opinion based on the nuances of his experience.

He's still a liberal, he just has an experiential opinion on Romani Culture.

Like, being an American Jew that follows politics and current events in Israeli and can't stop sighing in disappointment at some social views and public actions by their Government and politicians.

>>86804840
or maybe there is one solution: stop calling people you disagree with tumblr / sjw / pol and everything will be fine

>>86804796
I get your reasoning but again, Danger is a robot and Pietro is Pietro. They're acting in character. I'd call it more soapboxing like you mentioned, not so much strawmanning.

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>>86801802

>>86804914
ouch

>>86804756
>They told him that what he had seen was not reflective of the Romani people.
When you see two crippled kids back to back and your nonchalant tour guide says "Oh yeah, Romani parents do that to a lot of their kids" then yeah it's reflective of the Romani people in that particular area.

>>86804809
They just need to reboot /pol/. Half will migrate to other boards for a while until it restarts, the rest will fuck off back to r/politics, r/thedonald or r/communism. At least we can get rid of a few of them.

This thread makes me glad that I live in America.

>be romanian
>this is waiting to blow up
>sjw's will unironically equate gypsies with all of romania

>>86804756
difference is that you can still travel all around Europe and see how gypsies behave, just talk with any cop working in zones with them

>>86802231

I'd love to storytime the Death of Jean DeWolff, it's probably one of my favorite Spider-Man stories and easily the most underrated/underappreciated Spider-Man story of all time. If someone wants to hook me up with a download I'll do it.

>>86804756
Of course it's a Jew latching onto someone not being progressive.

>>86804721
There are still areas where they haven't. They were a huge problem in Chicago in the 80s.

>>86804809
It doesn't contain shit, they already post all over 4chan

A storytime of his fifth Hulk Visionaries would be greatly appreciated as well.

Why is it $100 fucking dollars online? We just don't know.

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>>86804914
Fuck Marvel, seriously.
>January 2015 Comic Book Sales Figures
>103 All New X-Factor 20 $3.99 Marvel 21,132
>113 Captain Marvel 11 $3.99 Marvel 19,527

>>86802846
Stay away from the rest of Europe. In case you don't know, your Romanians are scum too.

Are Brazilian gypsies a thing? There a group of people that comes around my town (a popular tourist destination) every time New Year approaches, set up tents at the beach and spend the next few weeks wrecking the place, people here refer to them as gypsies, but I have no idea if that's just a figure of speech or if they're actual European immigrants that came here. Maybe someone ITT knows...?

>>86804941
>>86804741
Oh my goodness, so this is where the /qa/ shitters go when they're not bitching about deleting /pol/. Why am I not surprised?

You've been whining for literally over three years. It's not gonna happen.

>>86804062
>trusting what a fiction writer says

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>>86804756
>just because the US has school shootings doesn’t mean everyone in the US is violent

BEHOLD!
- Peter David! A guy who at first manages to make you believe his characters are well developed... until you find out that all of them are David himself, that he does with them whatever he wants, and that all of them are totally retarded.

- Peter David! A guy who, when he doesn’t know what to tell, he fills the comics with his opinions about politics, movies, TV, and books. Thus you read a comic and a blog at the same time. And if there’s still space left in the book, he tells a good joke, no matter if off-topic.

- Peter David! A guy who seems to be building up an AWESOME story but then, after 50 issues you find that his plots are going nowhere at all.

- Peter David! The writer who has been doing nothing for decades while laughing at readers.

>>86805187
Don't make me fucking kick your ass.

>>86805223
See?

>>86805099
Gypsies is an umbrella term for travelling cultures. Not all gypsies are Romanis.

>>86801961
Duterte, is that you?

>>86805221
Fuck off, faggot. You don't need to post this copypasta in every thread.

>>86805341
But that's wrong.

Gypsies are specifically Romani. It's incorrect to use the term for other nomads.

>>86805099
They have them in Argentina too. My friends relatives that still live there had a few invade their cottage during the off season. Apparently that happens a lot down there.

>>86805466
Nah, they're all fucking Gypos m8

>>86801921

You've clearly never met gypsies.

>>86805017

Doesn't that story have a scene where a black priest makes a snarky remark about Jameson caring about a crime involving black children despite being white, only to Jameson ask if the priest is racist for making that remark?

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>>86805749
That's usually how defenders operate.

>>86806110

I don't think so, it's been a while since I read it though so I don't remember. Now I want a digital copy just to check.

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>>86805187
U S A
S
A

In case anyone was wondering about what PAD was talking about when he was on a trip for a film, this is a column reprint from 1993:

http://www.peterdavid.net/2010/07/23/romania-travelogue-part-3/

I don't know why the formatting looks screwed up, his other articles seem formatted fine.

>>86806467
It was written with white man hate.

>>86804756
>I love you man but people used to claim that we [Jews] put the blood of Christian children in our matzo.
>used to

>>86805080

Madrox wasn't in All New X-Factor...

>>86806467
>Adrian tells me I wouldn’t want anything made in Romania, so shoddy is the workmanship.
Do they have no sense of dignity or honor? No work ethic?

>It’s a remarkable comment on his desire to get out of Romania. We drive past people lined up about thirty deep… for milk. There’s another line elsewhere of similar length, I can walk into a 7-11, in and out, in two minutes, buying whatever brand of milk or bread I feel like, and these people have to devote as much as five hours to a similar purchase, with no choice. Here it is. Your bread. Your milk. What kind of milk or bread? You’re kidding.
What causes this?

>>86806969
>What causes this?
Ceaucescu.

>>86806743
Peter David wrote both though. And so these are both instances of Marvel fucking him over.

>>86806969
>What causes this?
>1993
The recent death of communism, I'd wager. Well and the previous life of communism.

>>86807149
You wager right. The transition from dictatorship to democracy is a very hard job to do, and if done wrong the consequences are terrible.

Gypos are the scum of the earth. The only type of person who likes a gypsy is someone who's never met a gypsy.

>>86807229
Yeah, I mean...this was 1993, this aren't like that anymore. But gypsies are trash and PAD was right to shoo that person away.

>>86807275
You don't solve forty? fifty? years of Communism in a short time, anon.

>>86804756
>Romani fans
LITERALLY
WHAT
THE
FUCK?

Are you americans literally this fucking retarded? My brain is literally melting at this. What.The.Fuck?

>>86807301
You don't "solve" it but it's not the shithole country that it was 1989-1995. Things got better, it's not a great country but it's not a third world shithole, not at all.

>>86807326
What are you talking about?

>>86807326
>My brain is literally melting at this
We can tell. You're not making sense.

>>86807388
I'm talking about
>Romani fans
What the fuck?

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>>86804756
>doesn’t mean everyone in the US is violent.

>>86804756
>“I love you man but people used to claim that we [Jews] put the blood of Christian children in our matzo. That doesn’t make it true.”
Nice try, Schlomo.

>>86807363
No, now it's a second world shithole.

>>86807460
What about Romani fans?

Genuinely curious here. WHat exactly do gypsies do that's so awful? I'm not about to decry opinions because I'm ignorant of the subject. Slow to speak, slow to wrath, quick to listen, and all.

Can someone actually give a clue besides "They commit crimes" or "They're scum"?

Btw, blackanon, still fairly sheltered. Probably the reason why I wasn't a teen parent or in a gang.

>>86807557
>Can someone actually give a clue besides "They commit crimes" or "They're scum"?
Isn't that enough?

>>86807557
Imagine ghetto thugs or white trash × 20.

>>86807577
Not really, because humans in general are scum. Sturgeon's Law, if you subscribe to that line of thinking though.

I want to know what gypsies/romanies do that make them worse than black mob violence/glorification of violence and white trash or arabians who cut their daughter's noses off.

>>86801921

you have literally never lived next to gypsies

t. eastern European

>>86801293
No, he's just an idiot who saw some beggars, listened to racist guide's bullshit and concluded that all gipsy were worse parents than Abraham

>>86807553
How retarded do you have to be to be a fan of a race of people that marry their children at ages 12, never work a day in their life, breed and fill up their homes with 8-10 children that they never bother to educate or at least send to school? We're talking about people that steal and con people, we're talking about a race that does not wash, a race allergic to soap, a race that send their 8-9 year old children out to beg...while barefoot in the fall or even winter. A race that is fucking illiterate, did you fucking know that? they can't write for shit, but I guess it's okay because their language can't actually be written down anyway.
It's pretty fucking stupid to be a "fan of a certain race", but to be a fan of the race that is a blight on all of Europe? Only a retarded amerilard that spends too much time on social media could say something as dumb as "I'm a romani fan".

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>>86807627

>>86807669
I think the reason your brain is literally melting is because you're literally retarded. When that site said "Romani fans" they mean "comic fans who are Romani."

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>>86807681

>>86807669
Dude. Romani fan = Fans who happen to be Romani.
A happy fan is a fan who is happy. Not a fan of happiness.
I thought you were an autist but now it's clear you're just from Eastern Europe, the niggers of that continent.

>>86807681
>>86807712
Romani live in Detroit?

>>86807701
Ha, no. They're white straight americans fighting for the rights of blacks and gays and now fucking gypsies.

>>86807742
I wish, that would mean they wouldn't live here.

>>86807748
Yes, in your headcanon.

>>86807784
The guy literally tells PAD he's jewish, you illiterate fuck.

>>86807681
Jesus Christ. That's bad, but I'd be remiss if I took that and let it color my view on an entire race. It's bad, but still, man.

>>86807712
Damn.

>>86807800

>jews
>white

>>86807681
>>86807712
At least it's not India.

>>86807872
Well, gypsies are indians so... yeah, it's not as bad because as much as they try there are still other people around.

>>86807800
Yes, a single person who talked to PAD after everyone else. There isn't anything saying the ones lobbying the complaints in the first place are white.

>>86807903
Do you seriously think gypsies care about comics of all things? Not that they can even read them since they're fucking illiterate.

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>>86807800
Jews aren't white

>>86807927
Move those goalpoasts some more Anon.

>>86807959
Not moving any goalposts. But I hope you meet some gypsies one day, anon. Enjoy your mugging.

>>86807800
>The guy literally tells PAD he's jewish, you illiterate fuck.

Where?

>>86808063
I'm not defending them you retard, I'm just trying to say that making up shit to get mad at is fucking retarded. You are getting mad at fictional white people and soon enough you're going to actually believe they were real in the first place just so you can say "Those damn SJWs are at it again". Get mad at the shitskins like a normal person.

>>86808104
he>>86804756
>I approached David after the panel to say literally “I love you man but people used to claim that we [Jews] put the blood of Christian children in our matzo. That doesn’t make it true.”

>>86808133
I'm not getting mad at fictional people, you retard, I'm mad at real people. Idiot amerilards specifically.

>>86808063
You really don't understand. This is how the conversation has been going:

>WHY THE FUCK ARE AMERICANS DUMB, HOW ARE THERE FANS OF ROMANIS
>"Romani fans" means fans who are Romani, not fans of Romani.
>THAT ROMANI FAN DESCRIBED HIMSELF AS JEWISH
>You're confusing the author and the Romani fan.
>GYPSIES DON'T CARE ABOUT COMICS
>You're goalpost moving
>I'M NOT GOALPOST MOVING I HOPE YOU GET MUGGED BY GYPSIES

Your illiteracy problems are affecting your argument.

>>86808190
>>I approached David after the panel to say literally “I love you man but people used to claim that we [Jews] put the blood of Christian children in our matzo. That doesn’t make it true.”

Yes, and the author is not the same person as the Romani fan described in the first paragraph. What's your point?

>>86808202
Except that I said from the start that those "romani fans" are not "romani people". I guess thinking about it, it's not that unbelievable that you amerilards would stand up to gypsies. I mean, your country is battling obesity and yet fat shaming is frowned upon, more than that, you people encourage fatness.

>>86808302
There is no worse autism than that of people from irrelevant countries shaking their tiny fists.

>>86808302
So now you're embarrassed you made a mistake and double down on the insults rather than admit your reading comprehension is shit. Typical.

>>86808302
>Except that I said from the start that those "romani fans" are not "romani people".

Here's what you said in >>86807669

>How retarded do you have to be to be a fan of a race of people that marry their children at ages 12
>be a fan of a race of people

You are literally this retarded and are trying to backpedal because you cannot read English. Go home son.

>>86808356
You want a hamburger?
>>86808378
I'm not embarrassed by anything. I'm amused by how stupid amerilards are, but everyone knows this.

>>86808413
>I'm not embarrassed by anything.

If you weren't, you would've left the thread by now instead of making yourself look dumber.

>>86808386
Your illiteracy makes me believe you might be a gypsy yourself. Good job getting around on a computer I guess. But yes, my point was that you have to be a retard to be a fan of gypsies

>>86808413
>You want a hamburger?
You want to immigrate?
Here anon anon, want a green card?

>>86808469
No, I don't.

>>86808454
>But yes, my point was that you have to be a retard to be a fan of gypsies

So going by your posts you really are a fan of gypsies.

What the fuck happened to this thread?
How is one anon this insistent on an argument?

I just wanted stories of European racism.

>>86808490
Come on, anon. Tell me your shitty country so I can guess how many people in your family have emigrated.

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>>86807669
>>86807927
>>86808063
>>86808302
>>86808454

>>86803061
Then both people stand up for what they believe in. That's it, they have a disagreement, and people around them support whoever they want to support, why is this confusing to you?

Just because you think people should stand up for what they believe in doesn't mean you then need to support everyone.

>>86808498
You do know everyone considers you amerilards the dumbest nation on earth, right? posts like this are one of the reasons why.

>>86808520
0

>>86808571
I thought gypsies were the dumbest people? Come on, irrelevant anon. At least be consistent.

>>86808571
>b-b-but you amerilards

I knew if you fucked up you'd be stuck on autopilot posting. Just admit you fucked up and assumed the author was the Romani fan and you can leave with your dignity intact.

>>86808571
>posts like this are one of the reasons why.
Why should we care? There are cities here that could buy your entire country.

>>86802766
I live in Gloucestershire, while we don't have many Romani Gypsies, we have a fuck load of Tinkers. Fuck em all.

>>86807681
>>86807712

oh thats not so ba-- wait is that the second floor?

>>86801853
This guy get it.

>>86808658
>Tinkers
What's that?

>>86808670
Nobody in this thread has said anything other than "boo, they suck".

Tell some stories of what exactly they do.

>>86808693
Listen, just go next summer to Hungary or Romania so you can experience it, OK?

>>86804509
That's oversimplifying it but yeah, it'd be more accurate to say they don't recognise anyone but them as having the legitimate right to own property.

>ITT: Comics and Cartoons

>>86808679
Irish Gypsies. They're a different group from Romani but they have very similar customs.

>>86808737
You still haven't said anything about what they actually do.

>>86808830
I thought those were called pikeys.

>>86808693
>they travel around squatting on other people's property, totally ruining plots of land by burning shit and leaving colossal heaps of rubbish all over the place
>they make a living by swindling, pickpocketing and mugging people, as well as breaking into houses to steal shit, rounded out by begging
>they consider their own race like a weird cult, and will go out of their way to totally fuck over anyone who has wronged another gypsy, even for legitimate reasons like getting them off their fucking property or calling the police on them when they steal shit
>they teahc their children that living any other way is a betrayal of their heritage, so they never integrate into proper society
>they break their own kids' fucking legs for sympathy shekels >>86803744
What more do you fucking need?
I've had many decades worth of experience with them and haven't seen a single one who wasn't like this.

>>86808813
Stop hating fun.

>>86808874
Thank you for actually explaining.
You are the first person in the thread to do so.

>>86804287
That was a joke anon. Dick being Romani made a return in Grayson. So PAD writing him would be a shitshow

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>>86808861
>>86808830
Fookin pikeys.

>>86808302
Non-Americans are so retarded. And jealous.

>>86808874
>I've had many decades worth of experience with them
But why?

>>86809024
>jealous
Seriously, why?

>>86808571
>tell me your country
>0

LOL

>>86808693
Except people did, you just conveniently ignore them.

>>86809024
Non-American here, can confirm I'm incredibly jealous of your first two constitutional amendments.

>>86801454

Fat robotnik comic guy hates romania because he went on a sex holiday there once and all the boys he tried to fuck had broken legs.

>>86804003
no, gypsy women are beautiful

when they clean themselves, groom and shave

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>>86801605
Can't say I blame him. The Rom camps here are halfway between cesspools and powder kegs. Shit gets crazy real fast.

>Worked at an animal shelter, located snugly between the city dump, a dodgy Chinese restaraunt and a large gipsy camp.
>Couldn't tell where one ended and the other began.
>I crossed the camp on a regular basis to dispose of all the wheelbarrow-loads shit we mopped up at the shelter on a daily basis, but I could have honestly dumped it near someone's trailer and it wouldn't have made a difference. We're talking about people who's idea of heating is a pile of tires or, more commonly, a burning car.
>Bastards kept breaking in at night and try to set the dogs loose.
>Most of our animals are "unadoptable"; old animals whose owners have died, very sick dogs, such as paraplegic German Sheperds, and lots of rescued ex-combat dogs. We once found one of our Bull Terriers, just a female used for breeding more combat dogs, beaten with a broom handle. We're talking about a dog so sweet she wouldn't have even had the heart to attack them if she had the chance.
>Constant turf wars and rampant pickpocketing in the area, but that soon becomes just an average Tuesday in that area. What you never get used to instead is the sheer stench of the place.
>This area was near a river, which obviously overflowed when it began to rain too much.
>In a matter of minutes, panicking rats would come running out of the camp. We're talking about hundreds of furry little bodies just swarming out of every shack, every trashed-up trailer and every burnt pile of car tires. And I'm not even referring to the Roma!

>>86808861
They can both be used, I guess a good way to describe it is Tinkers = Negroes Pikeys = Niggers

>>86809037
>But why?
Because I live in Eastern Shitholeistan and there's constantly a fuckload of them squatting around my town.

>>86809107
They really aren't.

>>86808861

Pikeys are actually an english traveller group that used to make tin goods as they travelled from the tin mines of cornwall up to northern england and back again.

>>86808874
>they travel around squatting on other people's property, totally ruining plots of land by burning shit and leaving colossal heaps of rubbish all over the place

So they're like russians in ukraine?

>>86809131
So, they're like Eastern Europeans in Germany?

>>86809214
>So they're like russians in ukraine?
More like if Russia constantly changed which parts of Ukraine it was occupying and swept around fucking up everything.

>>86803744
>>86803776
>>86803806
It sounds like he has a lot of compassion for fellow human beings, and dislike for a culture where such ideals as the golden rule have little value. I think his response is how things should be. As for those who got upset over his words, I really dislike people who claim support tolerance yet are willing to throw their fellow humans under the bus just to defend a retarded culture's right to cause suffering. I can't believe some people have the gall to be outraged about PAD reporting what he witnessed, when they should be thankful for him bringing injustice out into the open.

>>86804914
its obvious the man is suffering

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>>86809270
>More like if Russia constantly changed which parts of Ukraine it was occupying and swept around fucking up everything.

That is literally what I was referring to.

>>86809244
USAmericans hate Western Europeans, who hate Eastern Europeans, who hate gypsies.

Openly hating on gypsies at a faggot convention would be awesome were it not for the fact that Peter David is a faggot SJW himself and on any other subject would side with them vehemently.

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>>86809384

Is there any group with the craftiness of a nigger and the backwardsness of a jew?

>>86809395
As far as I'm aware, Russia has a very specific set of territorial claims in Ukraine based on Russian-speaking populations who consider themselves ethnically/culturally Russian and who generally support unification with Russia.

>>86809419
>They're just as bad.
No they're not you racist fuck.

>>86809446

...

Hipsters?

>>86809419
I agree with you on that. I personally dislike islam more than I dislike gypsy culture, and I think it's okay to criticize them both. Or any other cultures that have questionable aspects to them, for that matter. Western culture too, since it's not perfect either.

I saw gypsies only one time here in Brazil.

They are disgusting, do not approach them in any form.

>>86809131
>animal shelter between chinese restaurant and gipsy camp
poor animals never stood a chance

>>86804914
>>86804927
It hurt me to see Jamie die (yet again) in such a throw away manner. I know he has to be hurting.

>Yes, hurr durr, I'm the original Madrox and now I'll die.

>>86808813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ila9CHkeyEw

There, now they're on topic.

>>86801293
Reminder that The Matrix fucking sucked, Animatrix was the only good thing to come from it.

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>>86810335
also the Altright and MRA's are using a term created by these ladies

>>86810491
My favorite MtFs are ones who started out with male pattern baldness.

I just like that their response to life sucking was to double down even harder on being Sisyphus.

>>86810603
>male pattern baldness
>life sucking

It's not that bad. It just takes some times to come to terms with it. And then you suck it up and wear that polished bowl proud.

>>86804002
It isn't a crime.
:^)

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>>86801605
What if he was trying to hide his inmense lust?

>>86810335
>The Matrix fucking sucked
How braindead are you.

>>86809214
>>86809244
Stop trying to compare these people with another group they are horrible beyond compare

>>86809244
If you are comparing Gypsies to actual ethnicities or groups, you missed the point.

Gypsies is a social group that live as nomad beggers.
NOMAD
BEGGARS
Each of those groups is fine, with overlaps into some questionable activity.
But when those 2 are combined, you get the worst with the worst.
And everything they do, they can do as long as their child abuse, defilement of public property, trash dumping and worse is "tolerated".


>>86801987
The gypsies that stopped being gypsies don't like the word gypsie because they, somewhere deep in their human mind, thinks that they still are gypsies.
And by not liking the word, they are trying to enforce a form of mass denial, making the problem far worse.

>>86801293
He's not a nihilist, so not really.