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The Teen Titans curse is real. Artist Jonboy Meyer is leaving

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>Thank You guys for all the Teen Titans Love and Support and TT Issue #1 of the ongoing will be my Final Issue for the Series. Due to creative differences, I've decided to move onto other projects.
And just to be clear, I left on my own, so there's no hard feelings or ill will. It's comics not everything is magical--just the characters :)
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His art for The Teen Titans was so good. His art fits the teen titans.
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>>86775424
so good that the curse had to get rid of him
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>>86775396
>no source
okay
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>>86775470
Look up "Art of Jonboy Meyer" on facebook
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Welp there goes 75% of my reason to buy this
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Dammit. He was so excited about this project too. Is he going to stay at DC? Maybe he's on a wave 2 book? I'd definitely be happy to see him on a Shazam book or even Orlando's JLA.
>>86775529
Just link it nigger.
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>>86775742
You can't senpai
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Who is editing this? Berganza still?
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Bummer. His art was very pleasing and fit the character and book. Hope DC can keep in their payroll.
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>>86775760
Didn't know that. Here's screenshot.
>>86775764
Alex Antone.
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>>86775742
facebook links are marked as spam, you pleb
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>>86775803
BRAVO DC, YOU FUCKING RETARDS
Teen Titans finally have God-tier lineup and you fuck everything up! FUCK YOU DIDIO AND JOHNS
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Well that's a shame
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>>86775874
>FUCK YOU DIDIO AND JOHNS
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People weren't exactly reading the new TT for the story.
>Shota BB in boxers
>Mommy Starfire
>Raven. Just...RAVEN.
People read TT for the SFW porn, that's it.
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Who could be a good replacement since he's leaving then?
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>>86775874
Why are you blaming Didio and Johns? He said it was due to creative differences.
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>>86775874
Did you not read the fucking post?
Genuinely kill yourself holy shit I'm so fucking mad how can you have this shit of reading comprehension
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>>86775927
But ravens new design is horrible. shes looking good in her solo though.
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>>86775931
REBECCA SUGAR!
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>>86775956
You're not the first to hate the red highlights. Guess that's more Raven for me, then.

I'm not sharing.
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>>86775931
Pull Dexter Soy off Red Hood
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>>86775985
This. He's working with same editorial and it'd piss off Jasonfags so that's a huge plus.
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>>86776025
Damian vs Jason for Soy
>we already know how that ends
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I'm wondering what the creative differences were and with whom because he was hyping this book like a week ago
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>>86775931
Karl Kerschl maybe? I think the colorist is the same one he worked with on GA so it could be a relatively smooth transition
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>>86775933

This. For all we know he isn't even leaving DC
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>>86775958
There are books she would be good for.
Teen titans is not one of them.
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>>86775396
It seemed like he and Percy were disagreeing on story stuff in interviews leading up to it. Percy wanted to do a Trigon story and Jonboy said he was attempting to dissuade him to hold off on it.
On one hand I agree, on the other, Percy fucking sounds like Trigon.

Not sure what's going to happen, as to replace him on such short notice.
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>>86775933
That's what they all say.
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>>86776174
I just want to watch the world burn.
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>>86775396
Meh, not a fan of host art.
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>>86776177
Percy is secretly Trigon. HYPERCRIS-DON'T SHOOT ME.
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>>86776238
Host art?
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>>86776184
Except it's literally not? People came out and shit on DC in around 2014ish when there was a spat of firings
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>>86776220
Even worse would be suger writing teen titans.

I would like to see her do something with constintine though.
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I might have to drop this book if the next artist is just some regular house style shit.
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>>86776539
Just give her amethyst of gemworld.
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>>86775803
Is this situation like that Static Shock new 52 comic...was this guy was given a co-penciller or clean-up artist and eventually pushed out of the lead artist job entirely, into the help's job?
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and lo the cracks doth finally show on Rebirth.

the time is NOW! bitches!
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>the new TT artist may be announced this NYCC
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>>86775933
Here's another example of creative differences from DC, aka how they fuck up good things, from a writer this time.

http://johnrozum.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-quit-static-shock.html
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>>86775931
Ed Benes.
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>>86776666
But for the 2017 issues only because of his schedule.
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>>86776539
>Rebecca Sugar writing Heckblazer
It'd be so fucking KAWAII.
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>>86776713

>Sugar
>'writing' anything

End your life.
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>>86775931
honestly this kind of discussion is why I kinda want House Styles to return to DC & Marvel, would make the constant artist shifts a lot less aggravating
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So when will issue 2 even come out then? Like wasn't it gonna come out in 2 weeks?
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>>86775874

Someone needs to post the Didio image about being blamed.
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>>86776735
Well now I just hope she gets creative control over that thing you like.

Faggot.
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>>86776666
Watch them get somebody like Brett Booth.
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>>86776756
Issue 2 won't be out for another month. Teen Titans doesn't double ship and issue 1 (not Rebirth) doesn't come out until the end of October.
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>>86776769
Brett Booth fought to get Wally back for years. He's not leaving his waifu
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>>86776177
>Percy wanting to rehash more old shit like he's doing with Green Arrow

god dammit
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>>86776768

She won't, she's not good enough.

Tumblr is your home, my friend. Please return there.
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>>86776797
What else could you do with Raven otherwise?
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>>86775396
Okay this is all great, but how the fuck have Raven and Starfire not aged out of the Titans yet? Aren't Star and Dick Grayson basically the same age?

Cyborn is on the fucking Justice League and here they are with baby Damien?
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>>86775396
Rebirthfags btfo. This is reminiscent of New52 with creative teams leaving titles except there was never a leave this early on any new 52 title.
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>>86776854
Teen Titans is the book for New Teen Titans fans; Titans is the book for Wally and Silver Age fans desu.
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>>86775396
Does this mean that we'll not see that potential Damien's girl from pic? :/
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>>86776874
t. Marvel intern.
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>>86776900
I love how desperate you rebirthfags are.
>if you don't like this garbage then you must love this other garbage.
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>>86775396
Welp this sucks, I'm imagining that they wanted to do a Trigon Story and he doesn't.
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>>86776914
You need to read comics before post anything about them, anon. Rebirth is full win in all terms, and almost every title from okay to great.
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>>86776887
Don't you dare talk shit about my baby ginger Wally.

But for real, is Dick just way older than them now? Or Cyborg WAY older? I don't follow Rebirth, was Dick even a TT in the new continuity?
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>>86776914
>h-haha everything sucks, it's not just Marvel that's terrible bros so is DC amirite

Getting pretty shameless now, Marveldrone.
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>>86776923
T. DC intern

>>86776943
Just because Marvel is shit doesn:'t mean that it's enough for DC to be slightly better than shit.
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>>86776914
I love how desperate you are to shit on DC when from all appearances this is a mutual disagreement between the writer and the artist.
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>>86776934
Starfire's still an adult and is team mom. Raven keeps getting reincarnated into teenage bodies and will never grow up or be interesting.
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>>86776934
>Don't you dare talk shit about my baby ginger Wally.

Nigga what? How was that talking shit about Wally?

Didn't read Teen Titans in the New 52 really but I'm assuming Raven was deaged with the reboot and Starfire should still be around Dick's age now. Obviously Dick is still a founding Titan in Abnett's current run on the title.
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>>86776968
You're the only desperate one here. If this didn't have the Rebirth banner you'd be screaming
>RESET LE COUNTER!!!
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>>86776978
>Raven keeps getting reincarnated into teenage bodies and will never grow up or be interesting.
She was originally created as a young adult 7 years before I was born, her cartoon appearance was around the same age as teen me and now I'm about 12 years older than her current incarnation.

Shit gets weird too fast.
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>>86776999
>writers and artists aren't allowed to have legitimate disagreements or it must be all DC's fault

You are seriously retarded.
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ITS OVER! ebirth is lost!

Champions > TT!
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>>86776923
>Rebirth is full win in all terms

>Justice League
>Suicide Squad
>Batgirl and the Birds of Prey
>Red Hood and the Outlaws
>Action Comics
>All-Star Batman
>Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps
>Harley Quinn

"win"
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>>86777106
Companywarsfag get lost
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>>86777092
My point still stands, retard.
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>>86777113
Suicide Squad is decent, the backups are really good

All Star Batman is good

There are other titles that have problems.
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>>86777113
What's wrong with Action Comics?
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>>86777133
Jurgens. But he'll be gone thankfully.
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>>86777113
Every named title either okay or good except JL. Harley Quinn, Batgirl and ASB is for it's own audience, I don't mind since other titles is great.
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>>86777133
>6 issues of Superman punching Doomsday while Lois and Jon go "wow! Superman punching Doomsday!" in the background
>newest arc is probably copying the Clone Saga
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>>86777143
lol he's going to be here until #1000
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>>86776961
Except DC is fucking great outside of Justice League right now though.

Sorry that Marvel is shit and can't get their shit together.
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>>86776934
This guy said Dick is 24 years old but that's impossible. First Titan gen can't be older than 21.
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>>86777184
just wait until DC displaces the regular justice league with the Steve Orlando's Social Justice League of America
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Maybe he's on Super Sons.
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>>86777184
Sorry m8 but I don't like marlel, never have. I just have higher expectations from DC and Rebirth is not good.
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>>86777113
>Batgirl and the Birds of Prey
>Red Hood and the Outlaws
>All-Star Batman
All these books are literally in their second issue. How the heck did you judge that they are bad?
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>>86777113
>>All-Star Batman
I'm pretty sure you never actually read it. Also end your life, the painful way you do it, the better.
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>>86777220
Okay m8 I'm just curious, what do you like then?
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>Supes & Son: Enjoyable, fun
>Batman 'Monster Men' storyline: Shit, shit, SHIT. Hugo Strange is an awful villain, the monsters are Batman Unlimited style cheesy and we're supposed to take it seriously?
>Teen Titans: Again a Batfamily twat needs to ruin everything
>Flash: 'Godspeed' plot started off as enjoyable, now just another-evil-speedster story
>Justice League: Ha ha oh wow am I glad I'm not paying for that bullshit
As a DC fan/addict: They need to step up their fucking game.
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>>86777197
Is that suppose to be a bad thing? Steve Orlando's great, man.
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>>86777247
the first few issues haven't been good

Birds of Prey art is godawful, and the characters' dialogue is awkward, and have to keep reminding the audience that Huntress loves killing

Red Hood had a solid Rebirth issue, and then it tanked its premise so it could turn Jason into Lobdell's obnoxious mouthpiece again. there's no point to undercover jason if there's no tension or internal conflict

all-star batman is snyder wank, a michael bay movie with a plot that's all over the place
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>>86777259
Not rehashed shit, that's for sure.
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>>86777197
And I would have no problem with it.

Orlando can actually write. Hitch is an artist who shouldn't have a writing job at all never mind writing the top DC team book.
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>>86777270
>>86777289

how long until /co/ turns on orlando?
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>>86777286
Such as?
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>>86777130
>There are other titles that have problems
What are rhato problems beside muh narration boxes?
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>>86777297
First issue of JLA.
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>>86777282
>plot that's all over the place
Maybe you could have found more fancy term to make it sound more authentic m8.
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>>86777304
awkward "as you know" dialogue, black mask being making jason the heir to his criminal empire and being okay with jason not killing, jason being too retarded to not see that he's probably being played,
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>>86777282
>there's no point to undercover jason if there's no tension or internal conflict
And you discovered that there's no point in the first two issues where the arc just started.
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>>86776658
>example of creative differences from DC
They were famous for Editorial Shenanigans back in the day (although given how much Civil Bore has hurt literally every single comic involved and how little of a shit any xfags seem to give about DoX or XvI they're certainly not alone in that).
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>>86777265
>we're supposed to take it seriously?
Batman literally fuses with Clayface. If you're think this is supposed to be taken seriously and not just a filler event so each books' respective regular artists can catch up on deadlines then you're brain dead
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>>86777324
>first two issues are shit
>"b-b-b-but just give it 10 more issues! THEN it might get better!"
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>>86777323
Are you for real? Because you are seriously reaching hard.

Just freaking wait for this arc to end first before you start to search for plot holes.
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>>86777331
The fact they need a filler event as dumb as this one makes me sad.
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>>86777113
But literally none of those are bad.....most are great. The only meh ones are
>Justice League
>Suicide Squad (though the backups are great)
>Harley Quinn I-I actually quite liked the first arc
All the other titles have been good to great.
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>>86777326
He really could've had a goat run. I was just thinking the other day that if he was alive, Johns would've made up with him for Rebirth. RIP man, gone too soon.
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>>86777334
No, you can't say a book is bad before you finish the first arc at least.

You can say that you don't like where it's going, but you can't judge it before you finish it because no one will take your opinion seriously.
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>>86777356
>I only read mature paper scrawlings for mature people such as myself
Superhero Comics are inherently dumb.
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>>86777346
The Rebirth issue set up a scenario where Jason, having solidified his reputation as a killer, is able to go undercover with the criminal underground. But Jason is also held up by his promise to Bruce that he won't kill. That's the hook of the story, to see how that conflict plays out.

One issue later, Black Mask welcomes Jason with open arms, makes him his #1 guy, and talks about how he respects Jason's "morals", as a cheap contrast to mean daddy Bruce. The previously mentioned conflict is thrown aside just so Jason can have "muh banter" with Artemis for pages.

It's one thing if the first few issues are building up to something, but they're not. They're just shit, and waiting for future issues won't retroactively make them not shitty.
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>>86777323
those are good things
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>>86777374
You can evaluate the issues that are currently available
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>>86777391
The writer established Jason status que in the rebirth issue and the plot in the second first issue. Now he is focusing on introducing the new Outlaws because they are the main characters beside Jason and some people already complained about where they are when the rebirth one shot. He will reveal everything later.

So, freaking wait because we are literally getting the THIRD issue next week. If you don't like the idea of this book, then good for you because no one forcing you to read it. But saying that the story makes no sense when it's just started make you look like an idiot.
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>>86776713
Heckblazer went into its death throes with dcyou and as of rebirth is completely dead.

All thats left is censored swearing and a (hilarious) joke in sixpack and dogwelder
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>>86777300
From rebirth? Deathstroke is the stand out title. I like Batman too, King is great, I enjoyed Omega Men and Martian Manhunter among others from DCYou. I mostly prefer the late 80s and early 90s DC+ Vertigo as a whole, stuff like Hawkworld, Suicide Squad, Vigilante, Swampt Thing, Animal man, Doom Patrol Baron/Klley Deadman, and then there's Vertigo like Shade The Changing man, Enigma, Daytripper, It's a Bird.

From the current crop of newer writers I like Tom King, Si Spurrier, Lemire on occasion

Cartoonists I'm a big fan of Charles Burns. I also like Nate Powell. I liked The Nao of Brown and This One Summer. I'm also a fan of Vehlmann.
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>>86777399
You can, but you can't evaluate the story before it finished.

RHATO isn't a book that have a new story every issue.
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>>86777475
Christ, are Jasonfags so blinded by their waifu that they're unable to look at a work critically? The "dur hur just wait until the arc ends" excuse doesn't fix the problem of the #1 issue completely undoing the narrative hook of the rebirth issue
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>>86777481
DCYou Constantine was good.
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>>86777356
>The fact they need a filler event
Double shipping is a hellova drug, anon.
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>>86777499
New Super-Man is the best Rebirth
but besides that we have similar tastes
Swallow Me Whole is one of my favorite books, I think Powell would write a wonderful X-Men or he'd of been perfect to write Shade's reboot
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>>86777297
not as long as he writes meme favorites like Apollo and Midnighter or the other "I am a real comicbook fan because I like these" books
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>>86777520
I don't like Jason but the books been surprisingly good and my favorite Batfamily book besides Nightwing
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>>86777359
>(though the backups are great)
Boomer: Agent of Oz ongoing, when??
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>>86776596
I dunno sure she has expirence with gem based magic but i dont think she would do the political intrigue very well (was that even a thing in the original i only read her nu52 so far)

Maybe demon knights at the very least with tumblrs sweetheart writing a transexual maybe people will finaly notice that dc has always been progressive.

Keep her far far away from the endless (well i suppose in a way if suger did gemworld she would be writing a story that is near dreams domain but thats not really an issue)
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>>86775396
Good, anything with Damian in it should fail and burn
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>>86776643
The first crack was the anouncment of justice league vs suicide squad.

All things considered very little has gone wrong for dc so far.
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>>86777481
>Heckblazer went into its death throes with dcyou
The pleb is strong with this one.
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>>86777546
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>>86776844
Whatever there doing in her mini.
Then she will have 2 things to flop between.
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>>86777532
New Super-man is okay for what it is, but fails to impress me. I had fun reading it but I think I forgot to check out the last issue. Speaking of Gene, I surprisingly enjoyed American Born Chinese, and I'm going to check out The Shadow Hero soon.
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>>86777563
is this the best thing tynion has written?
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>>86777562
How was that a crack?
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>>86777562
>The first crack was the anouncment of justice league vs suicide squad.
No: the first crack was when they announced that they'd cancel Hitch's shitty JLA and ... give him the motherfucking Justice League ongoing!

JUST!
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>>86777578
Third issue is where it goes from "pretty good" to "pretty fucking amazing"
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>>86777570
Friendly reminder that Based Digger took down Flash on numerous occasions with ol' Flasher getting in a few lucky victories. Canon.
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raven and beast boy fan bullying him on twitter,
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>>86777582
>flagship book with all the A-list characters that will be a top 3 seller
>given to writer with no creative drive or planning
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>>86777113
Harley quinn has a style of humor that really does not suit everybody but it is very good at that style.

Also there bringing back joker.
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>>86777593
is this like damifag bullying tynion on tumblr?
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>>86777579
But didn't he write the Batman/TMNT crossover? it was gold
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>>86777603
i dont have a twitter.mom says no :(
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>>86777593
Did this really happen? Can I get some source? Fucking characterfags, man.
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>>86777520
He actually made a good point.

Red Hood seems promising so far and it isn't fair to judge the current story when the arc will not finish until next year.
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>>86777616
Loving every laugh.
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>>86777546
It will be a mini and probably early next year
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>>86777551
tim you are dead
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>>86777593
Screencap? Can't find shit on this thing.
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>>86775396
I think she is damian clone sister.
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>>86777563
>john takes the magicless combatless route to victory.
I see no problem with this he prefers to not use his magic pointlessly and he is a shitty fighter.
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>>86777633
Tim will be back. He gets to be part of a bigger and cooler storyline while Damian gets pushed around by his grandpa's rabid fan club. It'll be GREAT.
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>>86777655
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>86777595
>given to writer with no creative drive or planning
To be fair: they also gave Batman to King who's apparently going to spend the next year or so telling us the riveting tale of how Not-Supergirl got her BLACKED on.
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>>86777632
He already has a mini right now with El Diablo,
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>>86777648
>John is a dry cunt who's straight to the point, much like anyone with his accent.

I love it.
The secret of magic, any cunt can do it, etc etc
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>>86777598
>but it is very good at that style
I have to disagree: I actually enjoyed the first few arcs (dropped it when they introduced the Popeye knock off); but it's gotten stale and repetitive. I was literally gritting my teeth every time they had Harley say, "Holee, <whatever-ee>" for the 3,456th time.
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Someone red pill me on Teen Titans: Why has it been a clusterfuck for years?
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>>86777658
>Damage controlling this hard
>No counter-argument
Damian fans really are a cancer.
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>>86776666
Yes! Yes! Yes!
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>>86777687
Tim >>86777655
fans really are a cancer.
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>>86777680
Harley's shtick with her gang of sidekicks is great fun to read, I just hate how they removed a lot of great characters and treat some as one-shots.
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>>86777687
Tim is pls you sucks
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>>86777563
Constantine is such a terrible character, pretty much like any "I am the cool and detached English dude that knows more than anyone else" trope
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>Damianfag in full spam-my-retard-shit (You) mode
Right, another thread going to the last page soon enough.
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>>86777687
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>86777664
It's shitty though.
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>>86777680
My bigest problem with it so far is the aromatic joke a few issues ago.

It was a minor thing but holy shit it was incredibly unfunny.

Also they sometimes fuck up on recaps
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>>86777712
´Timfag ?
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>>86777725
I didn't know, I'm not reading it.
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>>86777681
Teen Titans was never good desu, only the cartoon keeps them relevant.
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>>86777687
Well youre a fucking cunt with horrible taste.
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>>86777729
Nope, piss off. You're impossible to talk to. You only care about one character and your way of talking is beyond grammatically wrong.

Just fucking drop your act.
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>>86777632
>It will be a mini and probably early next year
Are you implying that he's not actually dead?

Don't play with my heart, anon.
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>>86777758
hahahahahahahahahaa ´Timfag
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>>86777745
fuck off cartoonfag.
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>>86777758
CBR you sucks.
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>>86777759
You have to be a special kind of retard to think he's dead.
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Teen Titans is on 2 in top ten.Damian sales,
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>>86777773
>CBR
The fuck does Comic Book Resources have to do with this?

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/alcohol-support-services/

Please get help.
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>>86777648
>I see no problem with this
Neither do I, anon. I posted it in reply to someone who was shitting on the DCYou run which was, IMHO, vasty superior to the Nu52 run.

Getting out of literal Hell by being even more of a cunt than a black magician and a literal demon (and screwing both of them in the bargain with a deft backstab) is pretty much as Constantine as Constantine gets.
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>>86777769
The cartoon is so much better than the source material, though.
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>>86777788
hahahahahahah >CBR Timfag you are so funny .
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>>86777786
You type like a non-English native, your punctuation and sentences are a garbled mess and you never go into detailed sentences. What country are you from?
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>>86775396
I'm suprised by this because he seemed very enthusiastic about the book.

>>86777520
>Christ, are Jasonfags so blinded by their waifu that they're unable to look at a work critically?
That was honestly a pathetic answer, anon.
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>>86777745
Teen Titans have never been good in any shape or form
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>>86777798
fuck off cartoonfag.
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>>86777805
Arab .
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>>86777705
>Constantine is such a terrible character
He's much like Dr House, MD, anon. You either enjoy someone who's whole shtick is being a right cunt or you don't.
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>>86777795
>more of a cunt than a black magician
What the fuck are you trying to imply, you racist fuck?
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>>86777809
>I'm suprised by this because he seemed very enthusiastic about the book.
>>86777809
Titans fans are bullys.
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>>86777820
...Seriously?
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>>86777781
>You have to be a special kind of retard to think he's dead.
Sorta like needing a reddit style "/s" to grasp that that wasn't a serious post?
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>>86777820
Are you saying that you are an Arab because of Damian? Because I don't believe you.
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>>86777834
Yes :)
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>>86777844
I am arab :)
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>>86777826
House was tolerable because he is a miserable asshole in constant pain, so things even themselves up
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>>86777854
So do you like Damian because of his Arabian roots or?
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>>86777819
Yeah, the truth hurts, I know.

Thank God for TT 2003 keeping the Titans relevant, otherwise they would have gone the way of the Legion of Superheroes years ago with the way this franchise has been mishandled.
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>>86777815
Well, that's just like your opinion, man.
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>>86777861
That's a good question,,Yes But I also love dick.
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>>86777875
...Dick as in Dick Grayson or as in penises?
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>>86777879
>Dick Grayson
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>>86777875
That's what she said.
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>>86777890
BAZINGA
>>
´dick and damian They are the reason why I read comics.
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>>86777901
Dick name is called penis ?I did not know that HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>86777905
>Dick and Damian hardly ever get to team up again
>Even if they do it'll probably be some crossover event
>They'll never be properly written together again
Damian needs his real daddy back, not Bruce.
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>>86777924
Just how old are you, lad?
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>>86777929
this.
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>>86777875
as if we needed any more proof that Damian and Dick fans are the worst
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>>86777966
wew lad
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>>86777984
YOU bullying...me a Kid Tim Fans are the worst :)
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>>86776713
Sugar likes her some emotional trauma. John being broken while cute happens around him
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kids dont likeTim ..Wee love Damian .
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>>86778020
>John trying to drink away his sorrows while a magical critter keeps pestering him to safe some fairy shit
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>>86776596
>Just give her amethyst of gemworld.
Don't even fucking joke, nigga.
Amethyst could really be DC's biggest fucking young girls book if they actually bothered to not make it like all the fucking other shitty all-ages books that plague the market.
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>>86778220
just have anyone write Amethyst at this point and don't make her edgy
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>>86776786
Brett's not even a real fan. He thought Black Wally was just as good as real Wally.

Dude's probably a cartoon fan.
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That's a damn shame.
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>>86776769
I have no idea why they keep putting Booth on important books. He shouldn't be more than a fill in artist.
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>>86779219
Harras. Same with Lobdell.
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What a bummer. His art was perfect for Teen Titans. Now we'll probably have some shitty uninspired art.
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>>86776643
I knew DC couldn't keep from messing up a good thing.
I just knew it no way could the entire creative direction behind the new 52 not screw up some of these books
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>>86779267
Fits the shitty uninspired stories.
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>>86775985
Because TT needs gritty artist on them.
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>>86779277
But at least the art saved it.
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I was really excited for this but if they're just going to rehash the old stories again with a shit artist like always then I guess I won't be reading it.
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>>86775931
Burnham
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>>86779300
The artist was lobbying for not rehashing the same stories over and over again but I guess he lost that fight so he left?
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>>86775803
Man I wonder what those "creative differences" are.
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>>86776666
The literal shitstorm that would cause
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>>86777795
Oh you misunderstood my post i see.
I am saying heckblazer was dying with dcyou as in a return to proper hellblazer.
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>>86777759
No i mean it will be an elseworlds in the style of his backup in that issue
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He said a lot of stupid shit in that one interview so I don't really care as long as they get a good replacement. It's only a monthly book so it's not as hard to get someone as one of the twice a month ones.
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Jiminez would be a good replacement but he's probably on Super Sons
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>>86779404
What he say now?
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>>86775396
Tim is objectively shit
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>>86776666
Absolutely fucking not.

DC needs to get Teen Titans a fucking mile away from god awful house artists who can't draw teenagers to save their lives.
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>>86779440
It was just kind of generally incoherent (might have been the fault of the interviewer/site who transcribed it), but the main stupid shit he said was fucking up continuity stuff. Said Dick was 24 and Starfire was 19. I don't know what he was talking about.
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>>86779493
Well, Gar and Raven are supposed to be Dick and Kori's age. But since New 52 they fucked it up and DC doesn't seem interested to "fix" it.
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>>86779531
Yeah but it's just those two. Dick was stated to be 21 multiple times recently even if Starfire is supposed to be an older teenager. I don't know where he got 24 or why he'd think that makes sense given the content of Grayson. Maybe a year has passed since then. The original Titans in general are around Dick's age as well (at least physically, no one knows what the fuck is going on with Donna).
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>>86777687
the irony
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>>86779624
Starfire looks 19 but is 21
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>>86779329
He wanted to do something original instead of rehashing Trigon and Judas Contract
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>>86779651
>Abusing words like irony without knowing the meaning
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>>86779892
I guess that's part of the problem too with the interview not making a lot of sense as written. If that's what he meant the transcriber didn't do a good job at presenting it to the audience. It was just a mess.
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>>86776177

He also wanted to ship Raven with Klarion, while editorial probably wants Raven with Damian for synergy.
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>>86775874
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>>86779624
He was just talking about what age he was drawing them to look like.

>>86779902
This probably true and it makes me sad. I might drop this book, I don't want Trigon again.
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>>86780002
Ugh, Damian has a dozen better love interests rather than an equally bitchy goth.
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>>86779493
>Dick was 24 and Starfire was 19. I don't know what he was talking about.
Presumably when they started fucking? Having a 23 year old and an 18 year old would be edgy to write, a 22 with a 17 would have set off an alarm bell in the DC lawyers office.
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>>86780284
But they were fucking years ago and when did Dick have time to age to 24? It would be a random retcon of his age that doesn't fit anywhere nor with what anyone else is writing.
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>>86780302
He's 21 everywhere else I think at the moment, so aging him up to 24 wouldn't be much of a stretch, hell I'd probably prefer it everyone in the young Justice side of things was born within about 10 years if we take Damian as one of the youngest.
But you can probably ignore the 24 thing it was definitely either misquote or just stupidity.
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>>86779311
Percy said he has no intention of rehashing old stories.
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>>86779902
Percy said he was not going to use Trigon.

Priest and Abnett have plans for the Judas Contract or is Percy working with them on that?
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>>86780002
>>86780129

That..... It would not be so bad actually.
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>>86779475
I have seen 18 and 19 year old girls that look like Ed Benes girls.
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>>86775396

Geez another ninja gal in Damian's harem? Dude's gonna have a League of Assassin women at his disposal soon.
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>No porn in this artstyle will be made now

God damnit, I was really looking forward to the new Starfire stuff.
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Re: Titans ages

Cyborg is 21 as of Rebirth. So, he was a teen when he helped found the league.
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>>86780793
Cool go read one of the 100+ issues of Teen Titans that were drawn by house style hacks like Benes that DC published between 2005 and 2015.
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>>86776240
He doesnt seem like the gentry to me.

On a side note, I think I have a hypercrisis fetish. Should I seek help?
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>>86775396
wat
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>>86780948
>Bitches loves Damian
Damian x Maps
Damian x Stephanie Brown
Damian x Supergirl
Damian x Cassandra Cain
Damian x Katana
Damian x Rose Wilson
Damian x Every hot older girl
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>>86781177
Hopefully we can add Emiko to this soon
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>>86780996
which means he should be around the same age as Wally & Dick now.
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>>86781177
Damian x Starfire is the vest with Damian x Wonder Woman as a close second.
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>>86775931
Ryan Ottley
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>>86775396
Whelp, his art is 75% of the reason why I even bothered looking at it
Certainly can't stomach Percy's shit narration boxes when there's gonna be 6 people he's gonna do it for
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>>86780284
a FOUR YEAR age difference is edgy?!

holy shit.
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>>86779624
He was probably talking about drawing him that old, or thinking he was that old because of how he's been written.

Can't blame him for the latter desu
Dick was written as a young man in Grayson while Starfire (and Barbara) were written more like teenage girls at the same time.
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>>86775396
This is... confusing. He seemed really passionate about the project. I imagine he's probably already put a lot of work into it too. I'm getting bad flashbacks to New 52 where creative teams were quitting left and right due to the numerous last minute editorial demands. I hope that's not the case here.
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>>86775396
who is she?
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>>86781596
He said creative differences so it either is editorial telling him to do something he doesn't want to do, or he and Percy got in a fight over something and he decided to leave.
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>>86781008
How long have you been reading comics like a year? Only newfags complain about and use the term "house style". Might as well say things like mansplaining and cis too.
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>>86781795
>or he and Percy got in a fight over something and he decided to leave.

I would guess that it's this one. Just the way other creators have been talking about Rebirth it seems like what the editorial expectations of each book are have been laid out a while ago. Most of this is from Priest (which is mostly why I trust it because I don't think he would bs this much even if he's playing nice with DC) but other creators have mentioned a similar process, Johns generally went to each creative team and the editor for the books and helped them plot out what themes they would tackle, what order they should happen in, whatever the company is mandating for the book, etc. There shouldn't really be any last minute surprises to have someone leave the book. Has to be personal.
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>>86775396
Im legit pissed. His art was perfect for the comic, I was hooked immediately
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>>86781939
I feel the exact opposite. Glad hes gone. Get the Monster Men artist. Beast Boy and Damian looked like 8 yr olds.
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>>86781859
Longer than you chief. Bought my first comic when I was 8 years old, first issue of the Invasion! event. Even bought the Animal Man crossover issue because the Thanagarian on the cover made me feel funny.

House style is shit and DC's over reliance on David Macho's Brazillian sweatshop artists is what utterly horrendous and made post-OYL DC a complete chore to read. Benes is fucking shit m8, and DC has had nothing but shit artists like him drawing Teen Titans for a decade with only the slight reprieve in Nicola Scott for JT Krul's mediocre run.

Now if you want to jerk off to Benes' grotesque women with beach ball tits and silicon lips then by all means, go for it. But keep that shit away from TT, because we've all had enough of it.
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>>86781980
I mostly agreed with you, but Nicola Scott is definitely house style even though she's good. Odd name to list as an exception if you're complaining about it.

I don't really get why people like Benes though. He's draws lips so ugly to me that it ruins the whole thing. There are many better cheesecake artists.
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>>86782034
mostly agree*

ie I'm not the guy you're replying to, confusing typo there
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>>86782034
They only like him because they confuse good asses for good overall art
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>>86781906
Johns didn't help plot out shit, you meme.
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>>86781980
You sound triggered. Find me a girl over 16 now that doesnt look like a full grown woman. I'm just saying "house style" is a retarded term. The implication is anyone that draws like that is the same and they are not. Also throwing a fit when most artist only stay on for 3-6 issues is childish and pointless.
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>>86782081
>You sound triggered.

This is code for "I don't have a counter argument."

Fuck off you troglodyte.
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>>86781974
Fuck off, Rossmo is too good for this shit.
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>>86782089
>its a I didnt finish reading the post guy and don't acknowledge the rest of it

Oh so you are just looking for things to complain about. Carry on.
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>>86782090
>that art
>good

Maybe if you are a weeb
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>>86782072
What are you talking about? This is confirmed.

>Actually, it’s been a little easier than you might suspect. Alex and I worked up a plotline, and I started writing one-paragraph pitches for issue #1, issue #2, issue #3. I think we did eight or nine issues of, “This is what the story is going to be about.” Then we submitted all of that stuff to Geoff, and Geoff came in and said, “This is great, but this is not what we should lead with. We should lead with X, Y, Z.” He wasn’t feeding us specific plots, but goals, in terms of story. The stuff that we had come up with, we kind of shelved, started again, developed this other [story] in consultation with Geoff. Once we had the new front end up and running, we still had seven or eight issues of story that we had developed previously. So we adapted that stuff into the new front end, and frankly, it’s been pretty simple. We basically had eight or nine issues of “Deathstroke” already plotted, and now it’s just a matter of executing it.

>Turning the scripts in is a little bit of a challenge, but for me, the hard part is thinking up the story. Writing the script is all mechanical; it’s just me doing the typing and coming up with witticisms for [frequent Deathstroke associate] Wintergreen to say to Deathstroke. Alex and I had already plotted out several issues, and then Geoff plotted out several issues with us. We had a real good head start.

http://www.cbr.com/christopher-priest-on-why-deathstroke-brought-him-back-to-comics-he-wasnt-black/
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>>86782118
Oh I'm sorry, I missed the rest of your argument where you were arguing in sincerity that teenagers look like this nowadays.

I am sorry I didn't properly engage with such a substantial argument.
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>>86782213
Mate if youve been reading comics for as long as you are pretending to you wouldn't be upset at all that an artist is leaving the book.
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>>86782135
>Rossmo
>Weeb

I do not understand
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>>86781906
Impossible to say if it's true, but I guess I'd prefer that to editorial fuck-ups since the latter would spell severe long-term problems. Shame Meyers was the one to go though when Percy seems like the weaker link.
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>>86782248
I'm not upset that Meyers is leaving the book, I took issue with the suggestion that Benes should be the replacement despite the fact that Brazillian workhorses like Benes, Joe Bennett, and Eddy Barrows have been drawing Teen Titans for the better part of a decade. Even if Benes only drew the book for a half-dozen issues, it's a signal that editorial is trying to return the book to it's shit status by repeating all the same fucking mistakes they refuse to learn from.
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>>86782331
You not liking an art style is not a "mistake." Get over yourself.
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>>86782364
I'm sorry about your trash taste where you think Benes is anything other than an eight mile stretch of liquid shit.
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>>86782249
Everyone is a stick figure and looks about half their age. Damian certainly isn't drawn like a 13 year old.
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>>86782327
>seems
He IS the weaker link

Meyer's art was pretty perfect for a title about teens
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>>86782390
Meyers was getting a lot of heavy lifting from the colorist tbqh.
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>>86782378
No one has said Benes is taking over. One anon, who doesnt matter just like you, said it on a Chinese picture books image board. You are the definition of triggered. Go to bed.
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>>86782416
>lol you're a newfag, sjw much?
>just your opinion man
>triggered af

grats on the hat trick my dude

who needs a discussion board when you don't actually need to talk about anything
>>
>>86782331
Yeah, I'd be disappointed if any of those artists were put on the title too. TT could use fresher more dynamic art. Especially since Percy certainly isn't going to be able to carry this title on his own.
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>>86782478
Babs Tarr would be great for a TT book
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>>86782385
I don't think Rossmo has even drawn Damian before. Are you mixing him up with the current artist for Teen Titans?
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>>86782483
Oh yeah my bad. Hard to keep track of all the new talent. I thought thats who you were talking about cause the initial post was about how that anon was glad the artist was gone.
>>
Albuquerque is leaving Batgirl after the first arc, is he busy elsewhere or available to do TT after it? I'd take him but you'd need fill-ins for a couple of issues until he's ready to move over (some kind of combination of the exclusives who don't have anything announced like Mann could handle that I'm guessing).
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>>86779440
Also a lot of cultural crap about Damian that makes no sense.
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>>86782390
Meyers seemed like the more clever of the two from the interviews. No, Percy, we don't need another Trigon story.
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>>86782502
Rossmo does draw sorta stick figure like people so I got confused as well. He was the guy who did DCYou Hellblazer and was previously on Bedlam so he's definitely not a weebish artstyle.
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>>86782532
I blocked that shit out of my memory somehow. It was very troubling.
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>>86782525
>Albuquerque is leaving Batgirl after the first arc
What the fuck ? why
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>>86781764
New character and more Damian than Damian
>>
The first REBIRTHquake
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>>86782584
I think he's doing something with Millar

Anyway his art wasn't a good fit for Batgirl
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>>86782584
Albuquerque hasn't been a longhaul artist for a longtime.

His replacement is quite good though.
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>>86782525
>wasting Albuquerque on this shit
No.
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>>86782584
I haven't seen a specific reason stated anywhere yet. Might have only been contracted for it though like how Scott is only doing the past arc for WW before going back to creator owned stuff.

>>86782600
The first would be Cho and Rucka if you're counting this. Or Super Sons and JLA getting pushed back forever and Super Sons STILL not having creative teams announced.
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>>86781177

Kid hasn't even hit puberty yet and he's set for life.
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>>86782619
>Super Sons and JLA getting pushed back forever
This kind of got solved though
>>
Im fine with being in the minority here, but DC comics ( as well as Marvel) fucking suck nowadays.
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>>86782708
I agree. Image too.
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>>86781292
Isn't Wally a little younger than everyone else because he was lost in the Speed Force for years? He was 19 when he stopped wearing the Kid Flash outfit, and that's what he showed back up in.
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>>86775809
>what is tinyurl?
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>>86780793
Where?
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>>86783229
Hard to say. I don't think that cutoff matters a lot because he was brought back in a new 52 body and Barry hasn't died in this timeline anyway so we don't know if/when he would have stopped wearing it in this version of his life. Also the speed force could have been aging him while he was in there anyway to keep him with the rest, it's user-friendly like that a lot of the time.
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>>86783294
America. Everywhere.
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>>86783373
>America
Does that include Mexico?
If so, I must go there one day.
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>another thread invaded by damifags and jasonfags
>>
What the fuck dude
>>
>>86780996
See, Dick was 15 when Vic was 18, I think it was. They're supposed two be around 2 years apart in age, and since Damian and Tim are older by 2 years, Dick should logically be 22 or 23 now, but if Vic is 21, Dick should be 19.

This is why I've been saying the ages for characters are placeholder numbers given to let you know the kind of experiences they have been through or would be going through as a normal person, i.e. Dick is around the age to do post-graduate studies.

It's very much like Dragon Ball's power levels. After a certain point, it's arbitrary, just meant to help the reader understand generally where this character stands compared to another.
>>
>>86779902
>>86780728
I'm fine with holding off on Trigon, and while I don't want Judas Contract again, I'm fine with it. Prieststroke and Abett's Titans have been pretty damn good.
>>
>>86781294

I like the way you think.
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>>86783612
TT is pretty much Damian's book and where the heck are you seeing the Jason fans? Or does your obsession with them makes you see them everywhere?
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>>86775396
OK. Is Frank Cho busy?
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>>86783811
I think he has creator owned stuff which is why he is only doing variants with DC.
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>>86783721
Is Priest's Judas Contract going to use Rose instead of Terra?Rose knows Dick and Slade seemed pissed because Dick trained her.
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>>86784214
No, Priest mentioned Terra by name (that he'd address her age when she fucked Deathstroke).
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>>86784240
Maybe he meant that Slade is going to fuck his daughter.
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>>86784268
Terra is not Deathstroke daughter unless Priest goes absolute madman.

I really don't see Priest having Deathstroke sleep with his own daughter or an underaged(assuming Terra's not aged up)girl.
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>>86776854
Starfire is team mom and bets are good that Damian will be a DickFire shipper
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>>86783754
It's there 9 hours ago, it started from the post that said they wish Soy should've just move to TT so it could also pissed off jasonfags.
And then it stopped here>>86777520

I don't even think there's actually jasonfags in this thread. Didn't see toddbot here.
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