What is the most violent thing you've ever seen in a cartoon?

>>86767351
Barefoot Gen takes the cake, but I'm not sure about in the west.
Maybe something from Superjail, but those are handled so quickly that I think some of the gruesomeness is lost.

>>86767407

>Barefoot Gen

Especially when you realize that that anime is an autobiography and that shit actually happened in real life.

Really just makes you pause.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI3LNQ6OGmA

This whole movie is pretty gory. It's made even more jarring because appearance-wsie the animation looks like a kids movie.

>>86767351
Maybe stuff from King Star King?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO7Q1tMGE7g
This is a classic from the early internet, and edgy in an outdated way, but it's pretty graphic.

for the west, probably something from watership down or the plague dogs

>>86767351
If we're talking about cartoons in general anime has a lot. Genocyber, Violence Jack,Shigurui, Berserk Third Movie and many more.

If we're talking about Western only, I could think off Felidae and Watership down. It doesn't have to be that gory but it's pretty close to realism, which is fairly disturbing.

>>86767351
>Dat scene transition

>>86767496
Fuck, how could I forget. Happy Tree Friends takes the cake.

>>86767562
Best scene in the whole movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqqa_oiHw5g

The soundtrack always gets praised, but Elmer Bernstein's score knocks it out of the fucking park.

>>86767407
>>86767458
I assume Barefoot Gen is about stepping on a Lego without shoes on?

>>86769425
Do you know that gif/webm of an anime showing in detail the deaths of people in Hiroshima/Nagasaki when the bombs dropped?

>>86767351
>Narancia vs King Krimson.jpg

>>86767520
>>86767553
>~for the west~
>IF we're talking about Western only, on the board for Western cartoons and comics, ahuhuh
Your smug weeabism has physical mass.

>>86767483
I bed Claudandus fucked Felicity's neckhole after decapitating her.

>>86769495
No, but that clears things up for me.

>>86767407
>>86767458
This looks gnarly. I had no idea irradiated people melting off could still walk around.

>>86769478
>mfw I realized that wasn't just a cross section for visual purposes and the man was actually cut in half and still 'alive'

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>>86767351
Keystone Motel when Ruby and Sapphire start fighting.
It was so emotionally scarring to me because it reminded me of how my sister's boyfriend would always talk down to me in a condescending way, and I was powerless to do anything about it.
If I tried to fight back he'd only give me big owies, and if I tried telling anybody about it then my sister would get mad at me.
I wish they broke up so I could get my revenge on that evil jerk without any consequences!

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Find me something more gory than this entire OVA.

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>>86769425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfVn-19v09I

>>86769759
You seem to be lost. The door is out that way. Go out before they come.

>>86767351
>ctrl+f metalocalypse
>0 results

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>>86769776
It's pretty gory but I'd wager that Angel Cop gives it some strong competition.

>>86767619
Its a shame a people shit all over the movie for its tits and gore. Such a gorgeous movie allaround.

>>86767407
>>86767458
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>>86769841
Shut up already, OP never said anything about anime.
Quit trying to slide the forums.
This board is for WESTERN cartoons and comics, not japanese trash.
>>>/a/ is where you go to discuss your schlock.

>>86769776
the fuck is going on here. Why they getting tentacle raped

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>>86769865
You okay there? Wanna talk about it?

>>86769884
anime

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This shit freaked me out when I was younger, cell just started absorbing niggas

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>>86769884
>he never watched cinematic masterpiece Megazone 23

>>86769972
Ultraviolent 80's / 90's OVAs are the best. Modern anime simply cannot compare.

>>86767351
I honestly don't remember this, when in the movie did it happen?

>>86769956
And then a whole generation of kids start making tail dick/tail vore shit

When they do the animal sacrifice in that one South Park Christmas episode it always makes me uncomfortable.

Similar to the cereal commercial in Rick and Morty.

I guess those might be more on the side of gore than violence though.

>>86769956
>>86770036
That fucked me up too. Hell, I'm a vorefag and that makes it even worse. This type of vore isn't arousing to me, but the fact that there's the possibility of arousal is even more horrifying. It's like an uncanny valley but for my fetish

>>86770048
Gore is violent

>>86769478

I'm happy KND made a parody of this. Otherwise I don't think I could've gotten over it.

>>86769865
no one gives a shit

>>86770106
pussy

>>86770046
fuck you nigger

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>>86769478
>Watch this the first time and didn't affect me much
>Watch it a second time and I notice the guy is still fucking alive.

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>>86770046
It was the 80's man.
I really can't explain it but people thought big hair looked good back then.

>>86769611
Ant walking alligators- a common memory among survivors of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, walking wounded able to walk or crawl, their skin blackened by burns, their faces destroyed staggering around blindly unable to talk or even scream before eventually succumbing to their injuries

>>86770164
>>86770164

Mullets never look good

>>86769501
the other guy mentioned it so I figured I'd clarify as well just to be on the safe side.

>>86770228
Why did they think using those weapons would be a strong statement to make to the Sovets

Why didn't they realize it would just inspire the Soviets to make their own nukes in retaliation

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>>86769815
>Taking the bait this hard.

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>>86770228
>Never heard of this
>Looked it up

In terms of actual gore-violence nothing comes to mind.

But in terms of describing the horror of violence, or death, there's a few which always stick out to me.
>Watership Down: recounting how the warren was destroyed.
>Pink Floyd's The Wall: Goodbye Blue Sky
>Wizards: pretty much the whole damn thing

>>86770143
Nah, the guy was dead. They were just poking at his nerves to see what did what. Otherwise the guy wouldn't be doing anything on account of half his heart being gone.

>>86770341
Good work, Captain Hindsight.

>>86770228
Awful stuff, fucking visions of hell.

>>86770341
To be fair it discouraged anyone from ever using one again.

>>86769847

People shit on it because there's very little substance to it.

>>86769908
It's Heather, my queen <3

>>86770435
>Wizards: pretty much the whole damn thing

Really? Wizards never came across as very violent or gory to me.

Batman Bad Blood
Alfred VS Hatter
Spoilers dont work on my tablet so im just being vague as hell but specific enough anyone whos seen it knows.

why was 80s/90s OVAs so edgy?

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>>86770539
DO NOT TOUCH MY WAIFU!

>>86770341
>Why did they think using those weapons would be a strong statement to make to the Sovets

Because it was a strong statement, it made the russians back off by showing off that the US made carpet bombing entire cities be stupidly economic in both manpower and cost and the soviets were on their way to get nukes anyway.

Nukes were awful but the carpet bombing campaigns did much more damage as several cities were 60%+ burned to rubble.

>>86770570
People could get away with a lot more back then, no Moral Guardians to fight against. Plus Japan is fairly liberal with gore but god forbid you show genitals.

>>86769972
Fuck, seeing this made me miss 80/90's style anime.Probably some of the best sci-fi themed shows ever.

>>86770615
>no Moral Guardians to fight against.

Wut. That's when moral guardians were at their height.

>>86770655
They weren't that annoying back then iirc, plus this movies were probably like rated AO or something. Then animation studios discovered that waifufagging is a lot more profitable.

>>86770615
>no Moral Guardians to fight against

90s had just as many moralists as we have now, difference is people were willing to not listen to them. Now the soccer moms are the people doing art so they are the moralists so no one stands up to them.

>>86770680
>They weren't that annoying back then iirc

Because we didnt have internet as widespread as it is now, the information that someone is offended now flies fast to a lot more people while back then you had to wait for the news to listen to politicians or soccer moms cry about violent video games or something.

>>86770680
>>86770689
They got Hokuto no Ken off the air. In France.

As a bit of a subsection, what are people's choices in the category of cartoons aimed at children? I'm wondering what the lines are in various cultures

For me it is most likely when the newborn mice in the animals of farthing wood got impaled. The swift 'that's nature kids' lesson.

>>86770733
True.

>>86770760
Looney Toons in general. Sure it's slapstick and all but it's pretty violent in a certain point of view.

>>86770815
most of the more violent LT shorts get censored for television though
that or it gets censored for being "offensive"

>>86770484
They've been used since. Just not on anyone that anyone gave a shit about. Pacific Islanders and shit so that they could gauge the effects of fallout. They haven't been used in a military strike from one country to another because the alliances formed after the war made it a bad idea, and anyone who would use them would quickly find themselves in turn nuked by every other country with them because they are nasty, nasty weapons that do more damage to the populace and infrastructure than military targets.

The whole point of the space race was to demonstrate ICBM technology and cement mutually assured destruction. The only wild card in this whole mess is North Korea, who China and Russia keep in power as a means of First Strike plausible deniability at this point. How long that lasts is a matter of how long it takes them to try something and how competent they are with their attack. So long as they don't hit the US or it's territories, they'll probably get by being forcefully invaded by China/potentially glassed themselves. Otherwise, if WWIII starts up we're basically looking at getting fucked because someone will arrive at the conclusion they are losing and their best chance of avoiding as much damage as possible is to strike first.

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Sometimes you don't even need to show the actual gore when the implied can be enough to turn the stomach.

>picking up the mush that was your best friend and scooping it into a bag

>>86767351
As far as stuff happens to kids go it'd probably be Genocyber. Ohata didn't fuck around during his early years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z16eYSd4OEo

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>>86769956
>that scene where semi-perfect cell violently sucked android 18 through his tail

>>86770993
Might I know the name of the comic? That's pretty interesting.

>>86771038

he'll be alright

>>86770515
There's nothing wrong with something having little substance if it's not trying to hide it.

>>86769865
Anime=cartoons from Japan

chill you fedora ledditor.

>>86771069
Charley's War

16 year old kid lies about his age to join the British army and gets caught up in in the Battle of the Somme.

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>>86771038
>best scene

>>86771038
Holy fuck!

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>>86769956
The exact moment I developed what would later blossom into a cockvore fetish.

>>86770760
>animals of farthing wood
The whole series is unsettling, the music doesn't helps

>>86770908
they didn't actually drop them on pacific islanders, just somewhat nearby. Really not comparable

>>86771179
Don't wanna derail the thread too much but a lot of people watch and only like/hate Genocyber solely for the gore which is sad because there is a really awesome apocalyptic story with cool designs hidden once you get past it.

>>86771187
>cockvore fetish
literally kill yourself

>>86771038
How did the blonde girl not get hit in that?

>>86771179
>hanging garbage on door handle

this shit drives me fucking nuts why do tenants do this

always end up having to kick that shit in and then repair the damage

>>86771179
Nobody watches Genocyber for the plot.

>>86771166
All that impotent rage can't be good for you,
Don't get angry about things you have no influence on

>>86769956
I actually get a boner for this, cell was my primal waifu.

>>86770570
Because it was so cool.

>>86770570
There's still edgy anime now it's just it seems way more prevalent back then because the edgy ones were heavily marketed outside of Japan due to the novelty factor of cartoons where you see half of someone's face being blown off.

>>86771224
They didn't drop them on them specifically, but they knew the wind was going to send the fallout in their direction, and they just happened to have doctors on hand to document what happened.

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>>86770993
If we're counting comics, It Was The War of The Trenches had some unsettling scenes.

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>>86771166
Watch those edges man, you can hurt yourself.

>>86771232
I'm not saying I'm proud of it.

But at least I'm not a furfag.

>>86771419
Bullshit. Weird ass fetishes and furries almost always go paw and paw.

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>>86769611
ayup

Happy Tree Friends.

>/co/ suddenly likes edgeshit
What the fuck happened?

Even if there's no blood, the scene from Animatrix where they beat the robot.

>>86767351
That was a kid? I thought he was a eunuch or something.

>>86771564
Edgy shit fucking fun, that what happen.

>>86771505
Hey! I got that book from the museum!

>>86770341
You don't invest billions of dollars into developing a weapon and then not use it son.

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>>86770570
They cared about detail.

>>86771704
Agent Aika?

>>86771762
>Agent Aika?
aye

>>86770570
Because the Japanese economy and the home video market were both booming in the 80's which meant there was a lot of money for direct to video anime. The format meant they could do what they wanted so they took that freedom and ran with it and started making porn anime and really really violent anime.

>>86771799
>tfw OVAs are dead now
Fuck everything.

>>86771456
Do you know how hard it is to find material of people being sucked inside a cock where no one involved is sprouting animal features? Do you know how much harder it gets when you try and find said material that also doesn't involve futa or two dudes?

I'm saddled with a filthy deviant fetish and yet 90-something% of all material of that sort includes a turnoff.

>>86771234
She's actually an amalgamation of two powerful espers that transform into a monster.

>>86769865
God I love autistic posts like this

>>86771816
To be fair, its a crappy model that shat out tons of unfinished series that we only see what was popular.

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>>86771845
Does she rip and tear?

I know this isn't the best place ot ask, but does anyone remember an anime that had like an opening or an ending with three girls in stereotypical 80's workout attire, leotards and leggings, dancing to a really good groove?

>>86771799
>tfw ended up watching my first hentai, Twin Angels, on a lark way back when

>>86771909
The violence is pretty much the sole reason to watch it.

>>86771866
But OVAs gave us Macross Plus and Lodoss.

>>86771927
Dirty Pair?

>>86771866
The seasonal TV model gives us lots of unfinished series too. You just get a minimum of 12 episodes instead of 1

>>86771062
I wonder how many DBZ fans got vore fetishes of some sort or another because of Cell... and Buu. Shit think Toriyama was going though some vore fetish stage at that time?

>>86771963
Neat, thanks! I do so love girls killing things in a violent fashion.

>>86772020
I wrote that before seeing this
>>86771187
More then I care to know apparently

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>>86771927
This?

>>86771281
I did. The gore stops half way through the series but it doesn't lose any momentum.

>>86772106
Nah the faces were more sharp, and I remember the leggings. It was a black background.

>>86772020
Probably not, no.
Monsters eating shit is a pretty old trope, and not everything is about sex.
Shut up Sigmund, it isn't, you old pervert.

>>86772156
Cats' Eyes?

>>86772220
THAT'S IT! Thanks man that was bugging the fuck out of me.

>>86771966
Yeah, but they also gave us Giant Robo and then ripped it stillborn from our hands.

>>86772198
Look two posts below the one you replied to and click the 2nd reply link.

>>86771564
October

>>86772311
Pretty sure that he was referencing the speculation about Toriyama being into core at that time.

>>86772283
Cool, I never find any of those, glad I could help.

>>86770026
It happens early on during the final story, 'Taarna'

>>86767351
I remember seeing this one comic where some kids were making a snowman when some meteor with some mind-raping alien in it. Can't find it, but I remember being completely appalled by it.

>>86772220
>>86772283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5in0X-Ic_Rw
Here's the video so ya'll know what I was talking about.

>>86772417
The first Ending to said series.

I meant to finish watching it

>>86769776
Why doesn't Umetsu make edgy stuff anymore?

>>86772417
Goddamn the 80's were glorious in a bizarre way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GytcPIpgDlQ

>>86772336
Oh yeah, well probably not that but you know them japs with the used tentacles and panty rape.

>>86769972
Megazone! Yeah that metal tentacle murder had no connection to anything. Megazone is from the Robotech family of films, so yes, you just might we watching repaints of other anime characters getting killed and then never even mentioned again. I loved the part where the (what happens to the gang) and we don't even know if they survive, because they're never even mentioned again. But they flip the bird, so it counts as a "win."

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>>86772665
Reminded me of one of my favorite John Constantine moments.

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>>86771588

Lol at the people taking about Barefoot Gen. Had no idea what it was until I read the wiki. Are people really sad about that? About USA dropping the fucking gifts of all gifts? Well maybe their soldiers shouldn't have eaten our fucking people or destroyed china and experiment on them. Change BareFoot Gen to ComedyFoot Gem. What a fucking joke.

>>86773019
Lmao

>>86773019
That one with the hockey stick seems especially mean spirited

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>>86773070
0/8

>>86772696
Fuck. That.

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>>86773070
It's a school night, dear.

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>>86772767
>That broken window
I'm only 8 issues in and I can tell he's the one that jumped out of it. Every other plot so far has had him running away after finding the demon or whatever, usually by jumping through a window for little to no reason.

Feel like I'm reading the Danger 5 comic or something.

>>86773268
Wont spoil anything dude keep reading and enjoy. I gotta beck on that myself im not even half way though

>>86767351
That scene in Legends of the galactic heros where the imperial troops are running down a corridor and there are random mutilated bodies and some guy scooping up his intestines while another guy cries for his mother while dragging his torso, yeah that shit fucked me up hard. You can show me all the gore from Genocyber and Devilman but nothing compares with that too me.

>>86773317
I will, don't worry. I was mostly joking, it's a very small thing, I just find it kind of funny.

>>86773353
I was surprised see such a brutal scene in the show. It usually never delves into stuff like that.

>>86773388
It definitely had its moments, I was just blindsided by it when I first saw it.

>>86767351

The majority of Metalocalypse

>>86769759
I'm upset this doesn't have more replies just because I enjoy some good SU shitposting. But you didn't do a good enough job disguising your bait so no one fell for it.

You should have talked about how the Cluster was the more horrifying concept in any western cartoon ever and the thought of being trapped in your own mind and fused with others and just a fragment of your own self and blah blah blah SU concepts so original and if only other western shows could be as daring and whatever the fuck ever.

Now that would have been well laced bait.

>>86773477
Funny, most of the violence in Metalocalypse never really bothered me. It was just so over the top silly that it was funny. The sole exception to that though was that one episode where Toki tried to be all brutal and ignored that dying kid's wish to see him. I was totally not prepared to see in graphic detail the kid's rotting corpse, complete with maggots crawling all over them, with a voice screaming "You killed me! I'm dead because of you!!"

Genocyber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY4U2QlVw4w

>>86773619
I remember being so confused as to how fast the decomposition happened that it ruined the mood for me to be disturbed. Or was that Tokivision or something?

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>>86773639
Way to read the thread.

>>86773655
Part of me believes it was Toki hallucinating, which would explain the screaming voice.

>>86773619
Anytime that had Toki going off the deep end tended to be a bit disturbing.

>>86773619

right? I think people kinda dismiss the level of violence in this because its a comedy. that and brutality, death, and violence is kinda just a way of life for a true metal head and I think they really try to portray that in the series.

I think one of the things that really put the violence over the top for me was some scenario.. and I dont exactly remember cuz its been years since i've watched it but it was a bunch of people either outside a record store or a coffee shop in line and something happened that caused all the guardsmen to just open fire and massacre an entire audience of fans who're just hang out outside waiting to buy the latest album or something, the streets literally ran red and shit was insane.

>>86770582
Fuck off she's mine

>>86772106
Source for this?

>>86773743
Context really matters when talking about violence. The more realistic looking the more disturbing.

>>86773743
Sounds like the episode where they got body doubles, but I could be mistaken.

>>86773743
A lot of the hyper violence is funny though, like when they literally put scalding hot coffee all over their audience and you see skin and limbs melting everywhere.

The grossest imo was the gang of deathly sick people that tore that one guy apart in the hospital while flashes of medical bills flash across the screen- that was legitimately fucked up.

>>86773820

I'd have to agree. the Over the top stuff is just crazy and silly to the point where its comical. The real shit, like that scene feels pretty messed up.

>>86773891

agreed, but OP kinda asked about the most violent thing i've seen, not necessarily the most disturbing. 90% of this show contains some of the most violent shit I've ever seen portrayed, even if a lot of it is comical (weird how they pull that off).

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>>86769776
Reminds me of the opening of Xenogears

>>86773931
They pulled it off well, I totally forgot about Metalocalypse when I saw the thread because the violence seems so normal in that show. I can't think of anything else that regularly shows so much bloodshed.

>>86774012
>>86773931
>the chef that gets completely mutilated, then sewn back together to keep on cooking for the band
>the president blowing his jaw off with a shotgun, then is shown talking with a mouth flap later

Hell this thread would hit post limit if you did an episode by episode breakdown of all the violence and gore.

I think Chef's death from South Park kind of counts too. What made it more messed up was seeing this character that we've grown attached to for most of the series just viciously murdered before us, and it wasn't a quick, painless death either.

>>86770341
Soviet nuclear weapons research was already well under way, the US, Soviets, and Germans were all knocking on that door since the 30s. Also, the US knew the Soviets were already grabbing German scientists (we were doing the same, Operation Paperclip).

The military had more influence in making the decision to drop the bomb than the ill-informed new president Truman. They wanted to scare Russian political types to get a leg up before the Russians dropped a bomb and did the same, scaring American politicians into conceding to unfavorable deals with Russia.

>>86773724
Underwater friends is perfect and the song about his cat was beautiful as fuck. The dating one was eh, music and hallucinations. The trip with the guitar duel vs Sqvizzgaar(DA FUCK I spell that again?)

Hm. Most anything Salad Fingers, but the kind of gore involved kind of left you desensitized and wondering how far can Firth can go.

also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCa7tKiCMN4

>>86772484
Lord this movie. Kind of want to see a cartoon version of this now, but idk if it'd still capture that goofy over the top violence.

>>86772696
Damn, didn't notice the second one was a woman before.

I think the reason there is so much suffering porn in anime is because the murricans dropped atomic bombs on them. It's like some extended goth phase.

>>86774721
Probably because the US hasn't had any major attack in their homeland. No scars, the beautiful ones.

>>86769954
>the first part that I posted was made BY the brothers.
It's sisters now, you transmisogynist

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>>86773804
Kimagure Orange Road

>>86774721
A lot of things in Japanese culture and society stem from that. I've always had a theory that the trope of tokusatsu shows where the enemy always blows up at the end is attributed to the atom bomb going off. Now, I'm talking mostly about '60s and '70s tokusatsu and there are also plenty of Kabuki and Noh play aspects that are founding factors in Japanese movies and television, but I always wondered why villains exploding became such a mainstay and while it may be attributed to substituting a flashy death knell straight out of a Kabuki play, I think that the totality of the explosion is more representative of the bomb's effect on Japanese culture and how there is no going back beyond that point in 1945 for anyone in the world.

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>>86767351
>>86769478
>>86769776
>>86769777
>>86769956
>>86771404
>>86772708
>>86772757
Jesus Christ

>>86774924
I looked this up because apperently i was living under a rock.
I call half bullshit. One of them is trans, the other took one for the team and is faking it because "The Wachowski Siblings" doesn't have a nice ring to it.

>People dislike Heavy Metal
Why
Are you all a bunch of fags or something?

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>>86769865
Anime is just better cartoons .

Really, /co/ is basically the Special Olympics of Anime and Manga

>>86767351
>decide not to summon Taarna until 99% of your people have been brutally murdered

Yeah real smart there faggots

>>86775483
>sameface: the genre

>>86775483
I really cannot get into anime, I've tried and tried but the whole style is just offputting. I think the reason is that most of it is too 'busy', there's so much detail packed into every single frame that it looks cluttered. This might be fine for manga where you can just gaze at the frames to your heart's content but when you're watching a fight scene, being distracted by whirling cameras that try to cram as much superfluous detail in as possible isn't pleasant to look at, at least not to me.

Never
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep65rr-9qjQ

>>86775570

Not him but there's nothing wrong with sameface as long as the characters can still be made distinguishable.

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>>86775483
>cartoons: fritz the cat, wizards, felidae, batman: tas, watership down, aeon flux, titan AE, fire and ice
>anime: K-On!, konosuba, sword art online, tsukihime, yuru yuri, madoka: rebellion

shit

how can the west even compete

>>86775660
>Most recent cartoon on that list is 16 years old

If you're playing that game, you're going to have to go toe to toe with the likes of Akira, GitS, Jin Roh and Cowboy Bebop

>>86775660

You could use an anime not made in the last 20 years.

>>86775634
there's definetly something wrong when the vast majority of a countries creative medium is incapable of diverging from the same conventions of character despiction
Its even comparable to islamic art conventions where distinguishable features were haram, except japan doesn't have the excuse of dogma dictating it

>>86775660
mediums were japs are (barely) better than the west:
>2d animation
Mediums were the west is better than japan:
>Comic books
>Actual Film
>Paintings
>Literature
>Sculpture
>Architecture
>etc
>etc
>etc

you sure showned us, weeb

>>86769776
In one of the Genocyber OVAs some kids get turned into pink mist.

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>>86775747
Modern Manga is a shit ton better than modern comics, you dolt, even accounting for Eurocomics.

Manga is a hundred times as diverse as anime.

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>>86775800
>a shit ton better than modern comics
maybe, if you just count capeshit
>even accounting for Eurocomics.
lmao, now you're just taking the piss out of me
>Manga is a hundred times as diverse as anime
And yet not nearly as diverse as comics, not storywise where even the best ones are still heavily derivative of western pulp (just as comics, granted) and certainly not pictorically

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>>86775570
Oddly enough, Franken Fran has a story that makes fun of generic animu artstyles.

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>It's a "/co/ can't appreciate how blessed we are to live in a time where western and japanese creators respect and influence each other more than ever before" episode

>>86769777

>nukes kill you in slow motion in the most painful ways imaginable

Trips confirm.

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>>86775660
Why do cunts always attack K-On!? K-On! is great.

>>86775684
>>86775680
>le old things are better meme

>>86775747
>western comic books

"muh gaiman"
"muh moebius"
"muh prophet"

>>86776068
>Valentina
>Claremont
>Mafalda
>el Santo
>Asterix
>Rue del Percebe
>Savage Sword of Conan / Dark Horse Conan
>2000 AD
>Tank Girl
>el Eternauta
>Requiem
>Hellboy
>Heavy Metal
>Duck Heart
>Muumins
>Aragonés
>Capitán Trueno
>etc
>etc
>etc

I think I just cited more variety in both genres and styles than japans entire output, and only 1 capeshitter series amongst them
also gaiman is overrated, but I wouldn't expect a weeb to know shit beyond the memiest exponents

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>>86776008

K-on was terrible it also ushered in moe

>>86776008
I think anon was saying shit as a general expletive and not calling them shit. He formats western and anime in a comparison there.

>>86776205
Moe was already there. It ushered in kyoani dominating the indsutry.

>>86776205

Bullshit, it's been around since the 70s. We just didn't call it that back then.

>>86776213
seeing how the animes he cited were all shit, I think he was just memeing

>>86776217
>kyoani
>dominating anything

Yeah I wish. They have yet to make anything with even remotely as much success as K-On.

>>86776218

But it didn't have a name till K-on

>>86776230
Wasn't Free! successful enough to get a second season, an ova and a movie?

>>86776246

Not true it actually came from the Sailor Moon anime in like 1992.

>>86776250

K-On was literally mainstream. It got appeal way beyond just otaku (or in Free!'s case, fujoshi)

>>86775483
If we're talking about animation or comics as a whole it's very hard to say Japan is better than the West. Many good works have come out of the country but when it's competing against all of the Americas and Europe, which also have longer histories with the mediums, the scope and variety of works is incomparable.

But since /co/ rarely talks about anything that's not capes, Cartoon Network shows and webcomics then yeah, it baffles me how anyone can consider it /co/'s content on-par with /a/'s. You know you're scraping the bottom of the barrel when you've made generals for shows like Shezow of all things.

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>>86770270

>>86772297
we got it eventually

>>86770993
Yeesh.

Myself, I'll go for Felidae.

>>86769425
Reddit please go

>>86772391
Johnny Ryan

>>86767483
uploaded from a potato

>>86772020
I have a huge fetish for Cell fucking 18 with his tail like a dick, but I hate the actual consuming part/anytime the end of the tail is sharp and piercing. That Zone flash where Cell is fucking 18's ass is SO GOOD UNNNNNHHHHHHH

>>86770341
>Why did they think using those weapons
Easier to drop two bombs than another whole damn airfleet of white phosphorus, innit.
>Why didn't they realize it would just inspire the Soviets to make their own nukes in retaliation
The fact that Yanks had and the Ruskies didn't have any nukes was the reason alone to inspire the latter to make their own.

>>86770270
t. half shaved pink haired whale with a sephirot sleeve tatoo

>>86769972
As a kid, I caught some of this on TV, the only anime I had seen up to that point was on toonami or the Foxbox. It fucked me up

>>86772009
This is true, but at least they can generally wrap up their arcs. Or maybe in just bitter from the 90s when ADV would snatch up cheap licenses to series that went nowhere and abruptly died after 2 vhs tapes

>>86775483
only good thing to come out of Japan is the homo-eroticism

>>86775906
no, you have to pick a side, it's the law

>>86775687
That's because the "vast majority" you're talking about is cheap garbage made to sell merchandise, with artists trained not to draw from life but to emulate what's hot. Even then, manga tends to be much more varied.

>>86775906
It's pretty sad. We're living in a time where accessing HQ animated content is easier than ever and there is something that appeals to everyone if you don't needlessly prohibit yourself from watching certain content due to its country of origin and its surrounding fanbase, but we still resort to tribalism.

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>>86771505
God dammit I had trouble sleeping last night because I watched that part.

>>86767351
Why does that kid look like Elmer Fudd?

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>>86779217

Dude if you had trouble sleeping just from that scene you must be some kinda pussy

Try watching the whole fucking movie

Movie is so fucking depressing that I believe that anyone who says we need to use nukes needs to watch this movie first so they can understand why we shouldn't

>>86773019
It's always the same guy in these videos. His job is actually to bully robots

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>>86779301
Nukes are terrible things but it was sadly a necessity
A god awful one too just so the fighting would cease quicker otherwise we'd be in a bigger blood bath.

I hope it just doesn't get used again

>>86779301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QFNP-UV9jo&feature=youtu.be&t=35m15s
maybe it's tame to you but that shit was unsettling for me

>>86778506
Since when does being an FF7 fag make you an sjw?

>>86779301
For non war purposes they can be great tools, too bad were retarded monkeys who don't know the differences between out dicks and a sledgehammer.

>>86780171

I blame /b/ 8 years ago for making me see some serious shit

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https://youtu.be/yCooV4bXdck

>those screams

>>86773070
9/11 was justified. Nine-Eleven? More like LOL-Eleven, amirite?

>>86781387
Wtf did i just watch?

>>86769777
Except nukes don't kill you this way. That just incinerate you into dust in an instant

I remember seeing the origin of rorschach on tv when I was a kid and it was brutal as fuck

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This gotta hurt.

Does the cartoon part of kill bill count?

>>86772708
Sauce?

https://youtu.be/5eDUxDDXtBI?t=7m18s

https://youtu.be/5XquuWVUBr4?t=3m35s

https://youtu.be/SWtlHvG9kh8

A bunch of VHS tapes rated PG. Times were different and ratings system thought every cartoon out there was meant for kids. This show has a very strong cult following in my home country. As bloody, frightening and nightmare inducing as it was for kids, it was also fucking awesome.

Premise is bunch of heroic dogs gather an army to fight against man-eating monster bear Akakabuto. Imagine Lassie gathering an army of other heroic dogs and fighting horror movie monster animals and you get this show.

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The JoJo OVA was a lot gorier than the manga; I remember this and the PS1 game being my first introduction to the series and it spooked the hell out of me.

https://youtu.be/r1xq6xg8khs?t=18m13s
Around 18:13 specifically, the train-car scene was nuts.

>>86781998
Thank you for ignoring board rules and posting this because it sounds bad ass as fuck.

>>86781617
Not true.

There are two components of a nuclear explosion.
The first is the EM radiation exposure. Not just radioactivity but infrared, UV, all the light of the sun.
This travels at the speed of light.

The next part of the explosion is the shockwave of superheated gas. The big boom that knocks everything down.
This travels at the speed of sound.

So first you'll be cooked and then you'll be exploded.

Look at the gif attached. You see everything smoking? That's because it's being exposed to the EM radiation of the nuke.
Then comes the shockwave.

The radiation attenuates a lot faster than the shockwave so the outer parts of the radius will be only really affected by the shockwave, but there's a sweet spot that'll be roasted before being obliterated

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>>86782354
Forgot my image

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>>86780171
>>86781387

Why would you bring this to me? I'm just trying to survive.

>>86782221
It's funny since the car scene was cut from the 2012 version but then you have things like
>"An Oil tanker!"
in the OVA.

Both cut and changed but the OVA was much more gory.

Also
>"Hmmm, Spicey!"

>>86775483

I just want Fran to have a good end.

>>86782430
The OVA is such an enigma to me. Had really weird changes that didn't need to happen. The oil tanker I guess made the bridge fight a little more grandiose with all the flames, but still. And like, Iggy's death was WAY different. Did he need to get bisected? Yeesh.

That said, I love the OVA regardless, I have a lot of production material from it; cels and storyboards, etc.

>>86782234

Hey, they're technically cartoons. Anime before the anime craze overseas. They were just obscure cartoon VHS tapes among other cartoons. You can trust that /a/ has never seen that show because they're kids from the beginning of 2000's when the anime boom happened.

>>86771671
I, too, enjoyed Spies Like Us.

>>86780171
Now post the scene where the Japanese surprise attack Pearl Harbor and throw in with an insane, xenophobic German dictator who was systematic eliminating entire races of people. Oh, nope, sorry, Japan still views everything that happened as a freak act of unprovoked Western monstrosity.

>>86769865
Show some fucking respect. Unless you're Chinese.

>>86782728
>t. somebody who didn't watch the movie
Gen's father outright states that the war is wrong and is called a traitor for it.

>>86772757
>>86772708
Akatsuka anything is kind of cheating though because everyone's an asshole.

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This thread would be two posts long if we'd only go with western stuff. Way more interesting discussion when we're talking about anime sold as "cartoons for kids" back when rating systems didnt catch up with VHS tapes.

Pic related used to be sold as "PG 8 years old" in my country. And it had child-friendly stuff like

Satan worshipping
Dracula killing women like in a standard horror movie
Dracula having a flashback on his past where he impaled people and got brutally killed in battle himself, only to be reincarnated by Satan.
Baby being murdered.
Undead rising from their graves.
Corpses dissolving into dust.

The movie sucks, because its one of those movies which tries to condense way bigger story into 80 minutes. In this case its Marvel's Tomb of Dracula comics. But its a fun little detail when watching this entertaining trainwreck with bad dubs and tons of violence: Its actually a Marvel-license animated movie.

The score is the only actually good thing about the movie:

https://youtu.be/mnpMVY2sknk

>>86771138
That kind of shit didn't work when we tried posting Chinese films that used a Western animation style, why should Japanese animations using Japanese animations be excused?

>>86769865
This nigger is a true American hero and speaks the truth.

>>86783688
If /a/ doesnt put up with it its a cartoon fuck the janitors if they think otherwise.

>>86773108
It's all the same guy.
>>86779401
He'll have hell to pay once the robot uprising starts.

I like cartoons, but Japan does WAY more with 2D animation.

I don't know how someone could sincerely believe that America's animation industry is anywhere close to Japans. Japan produces WAY MORE and there's a incredible amount of diversity. America has like 5 channels total that even play cartoons and only HALF of ONE channel that gives an opportunity to anything that isn't an established formula [adult swim], but even they shy away from attempting 'serious' animation. (Moral Orel was canned because it went to dark, Metalocyalpse was dropped because Lazzo thought the story was getting in the way of the comedy).

How can you look at the landscape of the animation industry in America and not recognize how artificially stunted it is?

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>>86784140
(You)

>>86771773
>>86771762
>>86771704
I watched it for the plot.

The evil guy has a ship full of hot girls and wants to repopulate the earth with them. A fucking saint.

>>86784194
One miniseries from 2 years ago does not an industry make.

>>86775483
>what if we just take kafka's stories and slap some stupid fucking moe on them

Fran is trash. You want good manga, look no further than Golden Kamui, Historie, Otoyomegatami, Kurosaki Corpse Delivery Service, Professor Munakata or the like. But anyone who posts Franken Fran and expects me to take their tastes or opinions seriously needs to suck on the end of a loaded twelve gauge.

>>86770143

What anime is this from?

>>86784370
The reaction image? If I had to guess, Zeta Gundam.

>>86784140
Used to be the other way around, look at the Oscar winning Tom and Jerry or Bugs Bunny's from the 50's and 60's, they are mostly gorgeous works of art when Japan's output at that time was pitiful. It was almost Flash animation before Flash existed.
The problem is that they learned from us, they saw the great output and adapted while we concentrated solely on the cost at the expense of story and art. I mean look at the DePatie-Frieling cartoons onwards, hardly any scenery, crap repeated walk cycles, terrible dialogue. I think we're only now beginning to realize how screwed up it is, stuff like >>86784194 is a good start in going in the opposite direction

>>86784398

Sorry I meant where the aliens kill the guy and proceed to poke around his nerves

>>86773261

I have been trying to search for the source of this and I still have no clue.

>>86783946

Thing is, /a/ doesnt actually watch anime beyond loli school soft-ero shows. You cant talk about anime there either.

>>86784236

Don't forget he was sleeping with his sister too

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>>86784516
Animatrix, I think. But since the post is deleted it's hard to double check.

>>86770143
>>86770143

WHAT WAS THE DELETED POST TALKING ABOUT?

IM CURIOUS

>>86775483
>Anime is just better cartoons .
Madoka is not a refined version of Donald Duck. They don't have anything to do with each other.

>>86775570
Character design is a lot more than drawing unique faces, and another thing that makes this argument stupid is that nobody tells apart superheroes by their faces but by their costumes.

>>86775906
Aside from a few things by a few Gainax people I've not seen anyone cite examples of Japanese animators being influenced by American animation, yet people present it as some common occurence.

>>86784578
>loli school soft-ero shows
Such as?

>>86776438
LIQUID

>>86784757
>he doesn't know about 4chan archives

>>86784838

it's not expired yet fampai

>>86767351
https://youtu.be/wYi_hq2p1Ac

>>86784830
BROTHERRR!

>>86767351
He looked like a deformed bald midget, so that kind of negates the impact

ugly ass animation

I don't get the appeal of gore.

>>86785131
Sonic says: Who needs speed when you have a gun?

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>>86784412
What Japan outputted at that time was pretty fucking impressive considering their animation industry was barely alive, are you fucking kidding me?

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How sick in the head do you have to be to animate this?

>>86784838
/co/'s archive has been down for awhile you cuck

>>86785445
aw i hope they're okay.

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>>86785445
i miss edgy japan

>>86785541
I used to love anime when I was a kid, it was almost perpetually hyper violent, exploitative fun.

Now it's all kooky big eyed melodrama and I can't stand any of it,

>>86785541
>Implying Japan ever quit being edgy

also sauce

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>>86770760
Invader Zim "Dark Harvest" no fucking contest. "Bad, bad rubber piggy" being a good second. That's just organs though, not sure about blood.

>>86785432
He probably thought all Japanese animation was like early TV animation, but that didn't even start appearing until 1963.

>>86784412
>The problem is that they learned from us
Not really. Disney was an influence after the war in various ways for movie animation, but television animation went in a very different direction and then became the standard. I've never heard of it being influenced by US TV animation. The only thing I've heard is that US TV animation was thought to be low quality, but then again many animators thought the same thing about Japanese TV animation.

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>>86775660
>tsukihime
>anime
someone fucked up

>>86785575
>it was almost perpetually hyper violent, exploitative fun
A few OVAs and movies you saw were.

>Now it's all kooky big eyed melodrama
It isn't.

Very few people watch anime to any substantial degree, they just tell each other stories about what they think it's like.

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>this thread

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>>86785845
Are you saying you don't like the thread, or are you trying to imply that anyone in this thread thinks these depictions of violence should be removed from all viewing?

Pick your words wisely, I'm right behind you

>>86767351
That hideous thing is a kid? Looks like an old man with cancer.

>>86785910
No, I clearly meant the opposite. People need to lighten up if they call violent stuff edgy.

>>86785842
>Naruto is totally not as bad as you think.
Anime expert coming through.

>>86785994
Where did I say anything about Naruto in that post? I haven't even watched it.

>>86786029
All modern anime is practically identical.

>>86785842
Literally find me an edgy as fuck anime made in the past 2 years.
I mean tons of gore, not light horror.

>>86786029
If you watched it, maybe you'd know. Very few people watch anime to any substantial degree, they just tell each other stories about what they think it's like.

>>86786072
going to be kind of hard with Japans weird new censoring of stuff with black shadows

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>>86785575
>they'll never fully animate the insanity that is Gantz.

>>86786072
The new Parasyte anime?

>>86786069
How are 91 Days and Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume identical? What about Orange and Sousei no Onmyouji?

>>86786072
What does that have to do with anything?

>>86786106
Watching anime to a substantial degree does not mean watching a specific anime or watching all anime.

I didn't say anything about Naruto or allude to it in any way so you're just doing damage control here.

>>86786154
The manga of Gantz is the only manga i've actually read all of in....probably a decade. Up until it's severely rushed and nonsense ending, and all the dropped plot threads, it was great fucking fun.

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>>86786266
also amazing full frontal nudity.

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>>86786072
A bit older than two years but still well past K-on and the like there was Blood-C

>>86786439
>past two years
>a bit older than two years
He knows.

>>86786072
Shit, I don't know. Psycho Pass and Terraformars has some gnarly scenes.

>>86783762
>This anon is me
>I'm a stubborn faggot and don't know when literally nobody cares.

>>86784578
We need a /ga/ for Good Anime

>>86785371
I don't eaither but it's fucking cool
My buddy is really into it to the point he has a user account on bestgore and he doesnt know why either. It just fascinates us I guess.

>>86786687
I am not that person, man.

>>86785502
It's just catsup Anon, don't worry.

The Last Mabelcorn fro Gravity Falls
After the fight when they get bak they're soaked with rainbow coloured fluid
>unicorn blood

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>>86786439

Imagine if someone went through the entirety of Samurai Jack and edited the black oil to red

>>86786154
Is that centaur holding a horse cock?

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>this is what anime used to look like
What the fuck happened?