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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfqQGFFCTZ8

Did little moments like these make you think pre-MCU adaptation took place in a larger universe, but that the other characters just didn't appear because of copyright and/or simplicity? Like, just because the X-Men don't appear in the Spider-Man movies that doens't mean they don't exist.
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>>86762618
>just because the X-Men don't appear in the Spider-Man movies that doens't mean they don't exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awNFzpCvF18

Says you.
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>>86762670
FUN FACT: There was a Wolverine cameo planned for the first Spider-Man movie, which didn't happen only because of scheduling issues on the part of Hugh Jackman, even tought he was totally up for it
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>>86763149
Sorry, it didn't happen because they couldn't fucking find his Wolverine-suit.
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>>86763149
Wasn't Wolverine also supposed to appear in Captain America: The First Avenger but the studios couldn't reach an agreement?
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>>86763208
It's the first I've ever heard of this, Fox and Marvel famousily don't get along, so it could've been mind blowing if happened.
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>>86762618

There were crossovers, but they had to be sneaky about them.

https://youtu.be/FSr97rWdT5M

Thomas Jane dyed his hair black and put on a black jacket for a blink and you'll miss it cameo in Spider-Man 2.

No one outright SAYS he's the Punisher, but...
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>>86763274
>No one outright SAYS he's the Punisher, but...

Then he isn't the Punisher, faggot, and it wasn't a crossover.
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>>86763258
http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_America:_The_First_Avenger_Trivia

>Originally cameo appearances were planned in the film for James Logan Howlett (Wolverine) and Erik Lensherr (Magneto), who were present during World War II (Logan was a soldier and Lensherr was a prisoner of war). These cameos were scrapped due to rights issues.
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>>86763360
Come on, he's obviously on his way to meet his family in Central Park to have a picnic....
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>>86762670
>The studios need to understand that this is EXACTLY what we, the fans, want right now.

YT comments is right sometimes
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>>86763440
So basically someone thought that could be a neat idea then remembered it could never happen.
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>>86762618
I personally considered the Spidey trilogy MCU canon until the Sony/Marvel deal

I remember reading something about the Stark Industries logo appearing on Ock' tentacles, but Marvel wouldn't let Sony do it
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>>86763149
>>86763189
As the story goes, yea. Fox sold the wheelchair from X-men 1 and rented it back from the guy who bought it for X2, whoever was in charge of props/costumes ect. was not on top of their shit

>>86763208
>>86763258

Fox (and sony) and Marvel got along pretty well in 1998-2004. Marvel was pretty happy with the first two films, toybiz got to make toys and it increased brand recognition, things were great. In 2005 Marvel got the money to make their own movies and tried to renegotiate on the properties they sold off. Fox and Sony kindly told marvel to fuck off and made x-men 3 and spider-man 3, which marvel did not care for.

universal and paramount did opt to renegotiate and marvel got back iron man, hulk ect. Sony of course did as well

Now the mouse owns marvel though...... so... Fox and disney are bitter rivals. Fuck, almost every studio hates disney. So....things are..... going to be dark times for a while.
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>>86765778
The one who fucked up the relationships between those was Perlmutter, not Disney.

Disney doesn't give a fuck as long as the movies give them excuses to make toys.
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>>86765834
Yeah, now that Ike the Kike has been pushed out of the movies, Marvel Studios has been maintaining a fairly amicable relationship with other studios. I wouldn't be too surprised if phase 4 of the MCU had a Fantastic Four movie co-produced similarly to Spiderman: Homecoming.
Or maybe phase 5. F4 isn't exactly a hot brand right now.
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>>86766146
Marvel would like the F4 rights not for the Fantastic 4 themselves, but for Dr. Doom, Galactus and Silver Surfer.

They already tried negotiating for the villains alone for GOTG.
In the scene with the Collectior, instead of the Elementals, they wanted to show Silver Surfer and Galactus.
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>>86763189
Why did they even think they needed his suit? It's movie Wolverine, all Jackman needed was hair touch-ups.
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>>86763274
And now that they have the rights, the MCU suits won't let the Netflix people appear in the films.
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>>86765834

Ike was shitty to everyone, even his own people.

Fox and Disney still really aren't cool with each other. Fox is working with Dreamworks now. George Lucas undersold Star Wars to Disney so Fox wouldnt get it. Now Fox is playing every type of fuckery they can with the DVD/Blu-ray releases

They ARE co-operating on Avatar, but its theme park shit. Fox basically gets free money for something they wouldn;t do anyway. Versus say universal who wants to keep marvel heroes in their theme park, but....so does disney.

Maybe they can work this shit, but it likely wont be viable till after Spider-man homecoming is a proven success for disney and sony. Once that works Fox may be interested in playing ball.
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