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Champions #1 Storytime

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TEEN TITANS DONE RIGHT
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All these characters look annoying.
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>>86753180
HOLD THE PHONE THERE CHAMP.
Does this spoiler the ending of Vision?
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>>86753189
Not fan of them or art? I'm not fan of either.
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>>86753180
>No tyke
Booo, he is the only good thing from Bendis Uncanny x-men
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>>86753180

I'm interested, but also vexed that they couldn't wait four more weeks to put this out after the final issue of Vision.

Also, I haven't been reading All-New X-Men, which I've written off as being hopeless. Has Scott left that team in that book?
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>>86753180
>TEEN TITANS DONE RIGHT

Nah that was last week
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>>86753199
Viv lives. That we knew all way when Champions were announced.
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It's our favorite jobbers!
>>86753213
Not yet. He was in wheelchair last time we saw him, then Apocalypse Wars and Iceman and Romeo happened.
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>>86753180
I thought this wasn't coming out till after CWII
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>>86753220
I don't hate the art but that looks nothing like how Kamala normally does
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Fear not Kamala, Damage Inc. will fix everything.
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>>86753180
>TEEN TITANS DONE RIGHT

As seen in Teen Titans: Rebirth.
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>>86753220

>It's a "we remind everyone Kamala is Muslim by name dropping foreign food" episode
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>>86753257
the alternative is worse
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Oh no, how will Avengers recover?
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>>86753257
Multiculturalism is basically that, being able to taste foreigners food
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Bendis faps to this page.
>>86753265
Putting her in mosque?
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>>86753267
how is Vision not a great engineer capable of fixing some broken tracks and a van?
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>>86753286
Ultron created him to destroy :^)
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>>86753280
she calls Sam, Rocket
that's dumb
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>>86753280
Bendis? He faps?
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>all these pages with just Kamala
I'm going to hate this
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>>86753286

Waid conveniently forgot for dramatic effect
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wait has vision ended?
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>>86753302
Guess who's not Human Rocket anymore.
>>86753304
That would be a yes.
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>Kamala moralfag wanking
It's not going to be fun
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>>86753302
Atleast it's not Bucket.
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>>86753280

If this wasn't a story time I would post that Invincible page. You guys know the one
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>>86753314
One issue to go? I'm tradewaiting so I'm not sure.
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>>86753316
>Your next line is...
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>>86753216
You serious? Fucking faggot with shit tastes, that's what you are.
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>>86753329
Pretty bummed they've spoiled that Viv lives through this, then.

Also can anybody recommend other work that Tom King has done?
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>>86753314

No. Never mind that Miles's black ass in on the team even though he was arrested by Carol for killing Cap in a future that is definitely going to happen for realz guys!
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fuck I hate how Waid writes Sam
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>>86753339
Just read everything he wrote. It's not like he's Claremont with 3000 comics.
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>>86753344
he wasn't arrested, he was allowed to walk away
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>>86753342
So Asian Hulk still has all his genius intelligence?

Though, when I think about it. World War Hulk had all of Banner's genius right?
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>>86753338

It's better than this trash
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Guess Kamala is real Riri on that last panel.
>>86753355
Yeah, his form is different.
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>>86753352

Didn't the last issue end with Carol saying he's under arrest?
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>>86753355
the imagery used for him is amadeus racing down a highway in a sports car with the hulk threatening to break out of the boot
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>>86753364
good god, that face
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HUMAN ROCKET THING
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>>86753364

>embiggen

Nice cromulet word there
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>>86753351
Cho looks old as fuck in 3rd panel.

>>86753364
Jesus Christ Kamala keep your face in control.
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bad writing
bad art
bad forced trinity that doesn't have a good dynamic

I can't believe people will pay money for this
lol at all the Xfags that bought this for Scott
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>>86753369
If I'm reading that correctly, that means it is possible for him to genuinely Hulk out as in turn into a mindless monster that just destroys if he loses focus?
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>>86753367
yeah but the textless preview of next issue shows cap insisting he leave, and also the inhumans fucking off, leaving carol alone with the GotG
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>>86753364

With that face she looks more like Pegasus
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Cho's headgear reminds me of some other character...
>>86753379
What's embiggen, anyway? I've seen it on CBR.
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>>86753251
Good old Marvel Civilians.
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>>86753390

It's a perfectly cromulent word. That's all you need to know
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>>86753383
yeah. there was even an issue where he lost control and the hulk did his own thing, which ended up being doing some shit for enchantress in exchange for a sweet uru axe
but that was before Banner got murdered and it's implied next time he loses control it's gonna be real bad
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>Kamala Wanking
You almost got my $4.99
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>>86753311
Just like he forgot about Damage Inc. Fucking editors.
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>>86753381
To quote Morrison: that ain't my Scott Summers.
Plus, we know Champions #1 will have fuckload of sales because variants tomfoolery.
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>>86753402
>$4.99

Ha! They can fuck right off
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>>86753390
Well they have appeared in comics for a bit, right? Weren't they close?
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>>86753407
Damage Inc caused the first Civil War. fuck those guys
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>>86753412

And because they whored out to Scholastic
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>>86753399
Got it.
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>>86753390
>What's embiggen, anyway?
a simpsons reference
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>>86753390
>What's embiggen, anyway?
fake word invented by The Simpsons
>A Noble Spirit Embiggens The Smallest Man
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>>86753412
Why is Sam calling Kamala his bro?
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>>86753402
>>86753413
Wow that's all they charge, I remember going into a comic store and they were selling new comics for like $12 bucks.

So I said fuck that and bought some older punisher story at bookmans for 50 cents.
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>>86753390
>What's embiggen, anyway?

It's a reference to a pretty classic Simpsons episode. I actually like the idea that Kamala is enough of a fucking nerd that she'd use terms like that to describe her powers.
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>>86753390
>What's embiggen, anyway? I've seen it on CBR.
It's from The Simpsons.
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>>86753419
Who appeared in comics, senpai?
>>86753428
That too.
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>>86753429
seriously?
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>>86753316
Sam and Miles should date.
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>>86753429
what's wrong with Miles's face in the second panel? He looks either horny or sick
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>>86753437
Dosn't Sam try to be her freind but she always throw it in his face?
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>>86753390
>What's embiggen, anyway? I've seen it on CBR.
It started with The Simpsons and Ms Marvel used it to describe her growing power.
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>>86753429
So Vision is not full psycho anymore ?
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>>86753434
>>86753436
>>86753441
>>86753443
Thanks. I forgot most of my Simpsons and they're playing some not-that-old episodes on TV here.
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>>86753444

>No one else is home

Well that implies other people live in the house.
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>>86753450
Sam deserves better. Miles barely sees im as a friend
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>>86753429
>A gaming friend
what? There is literally nothing to suggest Amadeus is even aware of the Visions. Heck there's nothing to suggest Viv even cares about vidya
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>>86753444
That Rapeface on Sam
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>>86753460
Yeah, but I'm thinking he was supposed to be talking to Miles but the art and bubble placement suggests otherwise.
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>>86753464
>it's Cho/Viv
Sam back on suicide watch
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>>86753455

Shit I'll delete that
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>>86753444
I think it kind of looks like Hercules's crown, don't you think?
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>>86753464
>>86753444
is Cho naked or?
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>>86753462
Part of Sam's Suffering Saga, yes.
>>86753463
He still wears sweater.
>>86753466
Yep. BRAVO MARVEL.
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>>86753464
Isnt cho like 18-20 compared to their 14-16 range ? Why does he look so small
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>>86753470
just roll with it
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>>86753444
Hmm, Amadeus doesn't look half bad.

>>86753464
Ok never mind, what's going on with his chest?
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>>86753473
maybe after they finish rebuilding stuff, he can get started on a cuck shed
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>>86753482
>Asian
>Why does he look so small

>_>
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JOKER DONE RIGHT
>>86753477
Yes, that's it. Good eye, senpai.
>>86753482
Yes. That's why him being with them is weird.
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>>86753482
He got magically aged up to 19 yeah, but if they deaged him back to his original age I'm more than happy.

the bigger question is why he has no problem walking about barefoot and shirtless.
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>>86753464
I just can't take this seriously. Viv should have deep mental problems now and should be near nonfunctional. Why is she even still active? Why do they even still have a house? It's literally will just be Vision and Viv after this. Will Waid make King shoehorn in Viv getting into vidya for Vision? Why? Damnit, Waid used to be my favorite but everything he's done just infuriates me.
>LE DC HATES ME SO THEY CANCELLED MY FLASH OMNIBUS
>OH NOPE I'M JUST STUPID LET ME CORRECT THAT BY DROPPING SOME SARCASM ON DIAMOND
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>>86753204
> No sex toys tucked away in the closet

Off to a bad start
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>>86753444
>>86753464

I like shirtless Cho drawn by Ramos.
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>>86753499
Passion of anons who crave naked Super Sons will keep him warm.
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>>86753480
He's wearing shorts.
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>>86753504
>I just can't take this seriously. Viv should have deep mental problems now and should be near nonfunctional. Why is she even still active? Why do they even still have a house? It's literally will just be Vision and Viv after this

Vision will have his family back at the end of the story. I'm calling it now
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>>86753481
That's what you get for cosplaying Harley Quin
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>>86753381
I'll be very surprised if this book manages to have legs compared to Marvel's other Avengers books desu.

Yeah, it'll open big but let's see where this book is in a couple of months.
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>>86753514
>black
>hates guns

Immersion ruined
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>>86753381
I came here to see upset people like you mad about a comic they weren't gonna get anyway
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>>86753498
Anytime kōhai
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>>86753498
Oh shit, is he doing the bidding of The Great Milenko?
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>>86753514
No what I meant was he was always fully covered from head to toe back in Incredible Hercules to his time as Prince of Power.

Btw, do anons still interuppt very Superman thread asking for shirtless Jon?
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>>86753504

I never saw Viv as a gamer. Waid's already missed the point of her arc
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Don't know why I even gave this a shot... I expected it to be bad anyway...
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>>86753413
> Being this poor
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>>86753498
>let's make the joker
>but he steals women!
>and paints them in clown make up!
>and his name will reference a famous Italian Opera
>and
>and
>and
fuck me this character screams tryhard
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>>86753470
To be fair she can play without anyone else noticing so she could have been playing nonstop when in the house and we wouldn't have known.
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>>86753498
>naming yourself after a clown that gets cucked

Kek

Also
>Not-Joker has minions who are just in typical terrorist garbs
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Literately the only useful ones are Viv/Sam
fuck this team
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>>86753534
I came in angry anyway, I'm just here to hateread and complain and point out how much Waid will misinterpret Viv. Fucking damnit they couldn't even wait months until they fucked up Tom King's (literally in Marvel's words) only and final work in comicbooks (Someone should ask him if that was his or Marvel's idea)

>>86753538
I don't think so
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>>86753543

>Paying 5 bucks for some ad filled piece of shit

Good cuck
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>>86753538
They were last time I was in those threads. But I'm no Superfag so I don't visit them that much.
>>86753539
Welcome to the comics with more than one writer.
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>>86753541
Based on that impact, I think you killed him Nova.
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>>86753538
>anons
one anon, but yes
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>>86753560
that doesn't make sense
Hulk can like jump
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>>86753539
It was a stand alone mini series
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>>86753539
Waid is an incompetent and arrogant piece of shit writer. No surprise.
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>>86753543
> Being retarded enough to spend $5 on a 30 page comic
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>>86753563
neck snapped
>>86753575
he fucked up the Flash
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>>86753558
> He can't afford 5$ worth of shit

Poorfags gonna poor. You should leave the thread now and get a real job
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>>86753564
>>86753556
We had jinxed it guys, he/they arrived in today's thread as well.
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>>86753560

>Spiderman's web cant take a containers weight
>Sam can't lift a container
>Hulk cant just put his gigantic hands on it and swim up

This is one weak ass team
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>>86753572

>Stand alone

You don't know what that means. Maybe constant crossovers and events have rotted your brain
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*glares*
>>86753603
And people were saying it's one of the strongest teams ever.
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>>86753603
Waid's not a very creative writer
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>>86753603
Miles lifting a container while its being swallowed by the ocean would be an amazing feat of strength, probably more so than most of what Peter has done in the earlier years
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>>86753257
Well, they are Pakis. Them speaking English is a major concession to their surroundings already.
Would it be better if they fought over burgers?
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>>86753599
>the moment Viv realizes all the girls are dead from whiplash by being tossed violently up and down by Hulk
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>punched by Hulk into the wall
I bet he'll get without bruises.
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>>86753576
>Don't restrain the child kidnapper in any way, just record the cool stuff going on with your phone
I'd complain but that actually sounds pretty realistic.
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>>86753543
fuck off marvel shill
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>>86753617
>more so than most of what Peter has done in the earlier years
it's not exactly bracing a landing aircraft or tossing a tank
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>>86753617

He grabbed it before it hit the water. His shit web snapping is why it went into the water
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>>86753498

>Champions is suppose to be teen heroes heores tackling social issues
>First issue they decide to tackle on killer clowns crisis
kek
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>>86753629
Oh great more moral kamala
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>>86753541
>Underage
Looked to be end of high school/college to me.
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>>86753251
>Stark's not here
So is he confirmed dead or just taking a break from superheroing?
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>>86753629
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Moralfag mode: ON
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>>86753220
Why the fuck is she wearing that thing while dining with her hubby's family?
Someone here with first-hand experience in Muslim etiquette to explain this?
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>>86753643
there's conflicting info
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>>86753645
Kek, thought the exact same thing.
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>>86753629

>get punched by an angry Hulk into a brick wall
>Still alive

This fucking book man
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>>86753640
But Anon! It's HUMAN TRAFFICKING KILLER CLOWNS!
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Kamala is a cunt
her cuteness ran out
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>>86753646
shut up Lisa
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>>86753646
This bitch is unbearable
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>>86753646

NONSUPER HUMAN LIVES MATTER LEL

god why is marvel so shit with their real life parallels
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>>86753643
Buy next issue of Invincible Iron Man, true believer! And learn everything about hottest new superheroine Riri Williams and villain-turned-hero Victor von Doom!
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>>86753646
You JUST SAID you weren't gonna make a speech.
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>>86753620

You must be new
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>>86753646
>not bringing righteous death upon the immoral infidel clown

I thought she was Muslim?
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>>86753672
top kek anon, some LCS already confirmed that Riri does nothing worthwhile in it. I don't think she even appears
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>>86753629
>Little Girl
Are all these people just stupid or something?
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>>86753672
That much hair, fitting in that little helmet?
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>a bunch of discussion on Champions just from people who are itching to hate Marvel
>almost no discussion on DC storytimes
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>>86753541
>>86753560
How are those girls still alive? They don't have seatbelts and the crate they're in was hit with enough force to change its movement by more than 45 degrees then knocked to the bottom of that harbour before being brought to a stop in under 2 meters (estimated length of Hulks arms).
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I don't understand how Marvel was like "let's get that dude who made the really boring Justice League and equally boring LoSH to write our main team book and main kid teenage book"
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>>86753595
Do you honestly think this issue is worth $5?
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Are you going to hashtag it?
>woke
That's the word from that Sausage Party article, right?
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>>86753646
It was bad enough before, but goddamn...
What utter drivel.
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so far im interested but not like spend $5 interested
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>>86753672
Is nu-Falcon even young enough for this team?
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>>86753691

It's a new book.

Nice victim complex though
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>>86753695
It has shirtless Cho.
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>>86753378
>8th smartest
But Reed is not on the planet anymore and I will eat my hat if he wasn't 1st, 2nd or 3rd spot. Cho should have gone up one spot.
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>>86753698
>being this culturally insulated
Go outside. Do something non-/co/ related.
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So, on scale 1 to 5 where 1 is Trouble and 5 is Watchmen, where do you put Champions #1?
>>86753683
Yeah, I know. But next issue will have all the answers.
Totally.
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>>86753698

does viv even need to look at her hand to go to twitter? I feel like she's just doing that so she doesn't look like the odd man out
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>>86753691
>w-we have more (You)s!
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>>86753661
It was a calculated punch.
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>>86753180
thanks for the upload OP. It's a good first issue but with team comics its really about the dynamic created further down. I'm probably going to buy this and then come back a few months later to the series.
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>>86753698
So wait, how was dealing with cuck clown any different from when the Avengers took down the Wrecking Crew?

I mean, I get Kamala was sick of the Minority Report system the Avengers have but that battle as far as I know didn't have anything to do with that.
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>>86753672
>>86753646

>I'm not going to give a speech on what Superheroes should do but listen to my speech about what superheroes should do

This is ass you guys
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>>86753698
God this page really sums it up. A bunch of kids reading about themselves on twitter.

But at least I can say I was fair and I gave it an issue.
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>>86753719
Nope, Blue Marvel wasn't around back then. Cho is still 8th. Also Moon Girl (kek).
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>>86753691
Such is life, anon.
God, now to dig into Death of X. How triggered am I going to be, I wonder.
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>>86753723
#1
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>>86753329
I like how this is just Kamala being pissed at Carol and trying to show her.
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>>86753698

Did they cover that dead girls body before they checked their phones?
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>>86753713
you could pay 5 bucks to a drawfag and get him full blown naked
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>>86753732
I sure ass hope Totally Awesome Hulk doesn't crossover here. I've already temporarily dropped it because of Civil War
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>>86753691
Making reader angry work anon.
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Man fuck this. I'll pop in when Robbie shows up and wrecks the team the same way Johnny did to the Avengers
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>>86753698
WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING DEAD GIRL YOU MILLENNIAL CUNTS! AT LEAST DRAPE A CLOTH OVER HER, FUCK
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>>86753734

>Clowns are terrorizing America by showing up in neighboorhoods with weapons
>Avengers ignore it
>Champions arrest a clown

see it counts as a social issue!
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>>86753723

2

If you're going to have such a short range i think I'm being fair
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>>86753761

Not really. Nobodies paying for it
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>>86753755
But it would look no way as good as an official comic artist.

Besides, I'm not gay I only like shirtless.
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>>86753412
Well this is pretty fucking retarded.
They quit the avengers because they only help people and not help fix stuff? What the fuck do they thing they're doing here?
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>>86753795
>But it would look no way as good as an official comic artist.
You're saying this in a thread about a Ramos book.
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>>86753800

to be fair the issue ended at the end of the fight, for all we know next issue could pertain to the kidnapped girls and what to do with them
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>>86753800
This, from what it sounds. The Wrecking Crew purposefully destroyed the train tracks. Those Marvel civies have no right to complain since the bad guys would have killed thousands and wrecked the neighborhood even if the Avengers didn't show up.
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>>86753695
That's the complaint. The statement was "4.99 , no thanks" instead of "paying for shit"
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>>86753795
I need to remember never to help /co/mrades
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>>86753821
I know it sounds weird, and belive me,I already criticized his faces earlier in the thread, but I actually like the way he draws shirtless bodies.
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>>86753776
I can't find anything good about this issues besides a few sad Sam panels
it made me not like Kamala
how do you do that
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>>86753698
woke means the same thing as redpilled ie: "seeing how the world really works" but is a word used by african-american social media that spread to tumblr and the alt-lefts
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>>86753834

Oh fuck off. Nobody buys just one comic. And if you start paying for them at $4.99 they will increase the price. That shit adds up. It's already a hobby that's barely worth the cost
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>>86753646
>pandering to sjws
>putting real world problems in comic books
This shit is so disgusting.

I dont read comics to learn what CNN is reporting about today
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>>86753800

isn't that the same premise for occupy avengers?
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>>86753840
Why?
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>>86753723
you are grossly overestimating my opinion of watchmen, but I give this a flat 3/5, could go either way
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>>86753865

Kamala is going full Lisa and it's clearly only going to get worse. I'm out
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>>86753791
>DC is on full relaunch mode with a bunch of #1s
>barely has more market share
>compared to when ANAD released and Marvel dominated almost completely
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>>86753429
Err, Kamala, isn't Korean BBQ a bit on pork-heavy side?
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>>86753672
Wow Ramos makes Riri's hair even bigger
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>>86753770
at least it's not as bad as Goliath's funeral
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>>86753719
>>86753748
Pim told him now that it was the real deal and not a alien wannabe he was down to 9th.
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>>86753251
Well Sam has a point
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>>86753879

This, I used to spend $30+ a week on Marvel issues back due to Marvels recent choices i've been more into DC and Indie shit and spend half of that now
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>>86753498

>WHAT IF THE JOKER TRAFFICKED CHILDREN?

Trying to out-edge The Joker? The absolute madman!
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>>86753865
>how do you do that
From a writing standpoint replace "cute and optimistic" with "preachy and morose"

From an art standpoint, Ramos gets a lot of (deserved) hate so this might be drowned out, but seriously, he's the worst choice for drawing Kamala. Kamala's shapeshifting is all about curves and kind of flowing noodle limbs, and Ramos; style is extremely angular, very antithetical to that..
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I liked it, thanks OP
Finally something decent in marvel nower
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I'm not sure what the author was going for, but this issue was fucking terrible.
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>>86753879
> be wrong
> start mental gymnastics
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>>86753946

This is some top shilling anon
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>>86753698

>Dead kid's corpse still just there somewhere in the background
>Better hashtag my new moral stance while her body's warm
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>>86753893

Who mentioned DC?

Wait do you have company loyalty? What a fucking loser!
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>>86753893
DC is also shipping less books and at a lower price. Marvel not being able to win the market despite this is the proof of how bad their books are
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How dire do things need to be for a Lobdell book to be better than the hot new series you're pushing
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>>86753984
That would be a good point if Marvel were also releasing #1's then
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>>86753698
Why are they looking at their phones? How did Sam get an alert that someone tweeted hashtagchampions? It's not like he was following this tag or whatever.
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http://boooo.ytmnd.com/
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>>86753692
Well, Spider-Man caught themwith that elastic web, which then snapped. That would have considerably slowed the container down, meaning they did not impact entirely as fast as they would have normally.
How fast is pure speculation without knowing about the height at initial drop or a measure of how much that web absorbed, or how far they fell from there.
The water drowning them would probably be the worst of it.
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>>86754060
>ytmnd
Holy shit
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>>86753180
> more comments than all the DC released 3 hours ago


MARVEL DOES IT AGAIN
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>>86753280
What an awesome use of panels.
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Kamala is dead to me
Sam is like Bart
Miles is a Poochy
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>>86753880
They rescued trapped miners and beat up a human trafficking clown.

Neither sounds SJW
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>>86754152
But anon, the whole team isn't composed of blonde hair, blue eyes white men, it's obvious that it's SJW pandering.
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>>86753646
>it's a "Waid turns his characters into mouthpieces" episode
This guy has lost all his creativity.
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>>86753316
What issue did those 2 quit?
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>>86753429
>>86753464
>gaming friend
This is literally the dumbest way possible to introduce Viv
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>>86754105

Yeah and it's only their most hyped #1 with people talking about how shit it is
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>>86753698
>Have we started a hashtag?
Jesus. 2 or 3 weeks ago Waid was pounding his chest on Court of Nerds podcast that he never puts internet speak in his teenage books. Fucking hell.
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>>86754233
People wouldn't bother if it really was shit. Just like how everyone was defending SSs flop
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>>86753724
Probably. My thought process was as follows.
>Ah, Viv is checking twitter.
>Wait, she has no phone.
>I guess she doesn't need one, but why is she staring at her hand?
>Why is she frowning at her hand where there's not really anything?
Possible explanations:
a) She just apes the others to fit in while getting twitter directly into her head.
b) She actually bound her twitter feed to a HUD interaction with her hand so she essentially routs it as visual input around her cortex and projects it onto her palm to have a virtual "phone" she can check for twitter updates so she can feel like a real girl.
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>>86753526
But that would leave a lot of evidence.
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>>86753316
>broke the world
Jesus christ. What the hell has Bendis been making you guys do?
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>>86753723
A low two. It needs something truly goblinfuckingly stupid to reach storytime of pain levels, but it's within reach, with the drowned girl in the cargo container as a strong start.

Maybe he'll go full The Movement with this shit.
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>>86753464
>>86753473
>during the GR/Champions crossover
Viv: This Robbie friend of yours certainly knows how to handle a machine.
Cho: He's not really my friend and...I'm pretty handy with those myself.
Viv: Oh my word, did he and his car just phase through that solid wall?!
Cho: That's just magic! I know like eight guys who can do the same thing without transforming into a latex stunt car zombie!
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>>86753723
About a 3, I guess.
The artist is sloppy as fuck and the writing is not blowing me off the chair, but they went through a ton of shit in that short a time, set the exit from Avengers up, got just about the whole gang together and made it a somewhat decent foundation issue.
At least Waid is too old to think of 3rd-wave feminist shenanigans as social issues.
And I liked Viv frowning at the term 'woke'.
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>>86753646
Cool, they took a character who was enjoyable in her solo book and made her unbearable.
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>>86754324
>Maybe he'll go full The Movement with this shit
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>>86753672
Isn't Falcon an adult?
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>>86754342
It's not him.
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>>86753800
They also quit because hero vs hero fights are retarded and the Avengers decided to make a personal spat between two people explode into all out war between two sides comprising of enough power to take over a galaxy?
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>>86753239
CW2 is a delayed mess.
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>>86753180
>TEEN TITANS DONE RIGHT
I wanted this to be true, but nope, sorry. Damian's Teen Titans already had a better start.
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>>86753329
Hey, people acknowledge Cassie Lang
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>>86754354
I mean the new hispanic Falcon. He didn't come off as a kid.
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>>86753652
Marvel writers not muslim, but feel like writing about muslim culture.

Marvel writers do not understand that you don't wear a full-head covering when with family.
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>>86754362
>you look like a banana slipped on itself

I earnestly look forward to him matching wits with Jon and then treating him far better than he ever did his Titans.
>>
How many books is Waid writing right now? I feel that you shouldn't give him more than one, because the quality of his writing goes to shit.
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>>86754356
Well, Kamala quit mostly over Carol's bullshit, I think. She slipped up and said she'd show her. >>86753329
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>>86753422
Hey now, they fired the guy that gave Nitro the MGH. They've recovered since then and are doing good work.
They also have Trull the Unhuman as an employee.
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>>86753497
> >_>
kys my man
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>>86753464
That is... nothing we can't already can't do with a phone and nothing that Amadeus can't do if he upgrades to a game boy advance.
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>>86753280
Oh, Bendis wrote it. That's why everyone is comically out of character.

I'd recognize that copy+paste of the same six fucking panels anywhere.
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I fail to see how anything the Champions are doing is any different to the Avengers.
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>>86754421
They're being self righteous about it and thinking about repairing the mine shaft and such.

Note: Things the Avengers did before Tony up and died.
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>>86753672
You know, half the reason why people are losing interest in Marvel is seeing the same expected faces over and over.
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>>86753407

to be fair Damage Inc was specifically started because heroes won't clean up their shit
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>>86754438
I'd say it's more that they're NOT seeing those expected faces.
It's like New Coke.
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>>86754412
>of the same six fucking panels anywhere.
HA JOKES ON YOU

THE CLOCK IS DIFFERENT IN EACH PANEL
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>>86753698
>tweeting to pat themselves on the back while standing next to the corpse of a little girl

BRAVO SJWAID
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>>86754438
Then why is everyone going ga-ga over Quinn while no one talks about Whor or Black America anymore?
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>no review thread on CBR, the hive of Marvel shills
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Eh, it was fine, good enough to make me want to read next issue, at least
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>>86754505
Because she is from the stale old batman universe. His sales carry her. Batman and jokers girlfriend have been out for DECADES
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Well that was terrible.

The #Champions at the end was painfully narsassistic. Especially when next to the dead body.
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>>86754578
They' ban me if I say they're tweeting while standing next to corpse, won't they?
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>>86753429
Glad to see that Vision looks broken inside after all that mess that happened in his run
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>>86753180
This was pretty shit to be honest.
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>>86754370
It was the art that was confusing. I think he was supposed to be a minor.
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>>86754638
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>>86753698
If I recall, these are actual tweets they got from twitter, offering to put them in the book.
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>>86753329
>Tell me you're not shipping me with Stinger
Fuck off Sam, you wish
>>
God, this is so bad

>>86753541
that spidey, kek

>>86753560
nova just killed everyone in that container
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>>86753481
Hot.

Just makes me wish I had the means and access to purchase such tail.
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>>86753316
Sam, Miles and Kamala have no ground to stand on. They participated in the Civil War just like the "adults" did, they took sides.
And what does "they don't seem interested in putting it back together" even mean?
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>>86753698
Wow. Why was I hoping it to be good?
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>>86754590
I actually agree with you shill. though i hope kamala isnt so preachy in the future.
>>
>waid
>teen characters done right
N O PE
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>>86753698
it ends with fucking kids staring at their phones.
not bad really, Miles is getting better, just makes me miss that avengers comic book series. the one with spiderman and ant man and tigra. those were great.
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>>86754713
Thank you?
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>>86754918
funny, it's the part of teens we don't want to see.
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>>86753698
This will age so quickly,Waid is shit.
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>>86754917
I think half the bitchy attitude is the artist.
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>>86754917
If I were a shill wouldn't I have said it was really good?

Also I think the formation of the team was a bit rushed, but better this than using 5 chapters to do it like Extraordinary X-Men
>>
I feel like people have ignored that Kamala was always kind of like this.
In any case, it could've been better, but I thought it was at least 3/5 and could go places, if given time to flow.
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>>86753640
This shit hits close to home if you're in Alabama.

Clowns are out of control.
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>>86754923
Initiative?
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>>86753438
What the fuck anon, do you live in Australia?
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>>86754989
Well, kinda. Wilson writes her as charminlgy idealistic, which is dangerously close to preachy.
Waid doesn't seem to get the difference down too well and with this issue being absolutely about them morally grandstanding, he really crosses the line. Ramos being shit at faces doesn't help, either. It makes the words lose all nuance.
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>>86753464
>Battlesmite
>not Overfortress 2

confirmed pleb
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>>86753685
Afros are basically compressible. Especially with that loose curl thing she has going there
>>
so is this gonna be an ongoing? How long is this gonna go on for?
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>>86754376
you dont have to, but ive had a friend who basically never took hers off because she couldn't be bothered and didnt want to have to brush her hair
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>>86753251
How do you know how to fix train tracks, Kamala!?
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>>86753351
Kentucky isn't right next door to Jersey. How the fuck did she get there?
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>>86753267
>What is Damage Control
>>
I thought that putting Viv in a standard superhero action book after Tom King would be awkward as fuck. And I was right.

>>86755282
Kamala on Sam's shoulders, Miles on her shoulders
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>>86753610
prettyyyy sure amadeus and sam are the murderes on this one

good going marvel
>>
The idea that superheroes are wrong from stopping supervillains from smashing up the place is always stupid. Then they go and smash up a supervillain anyway.
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>>86753180
>300+ Replies
DKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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Can I have your opinion, /co/?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11368469
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>>86753698
Stay woke, Champions.
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>>86755390
>that first option
You're cool people, Ant-Man.
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>>86755390
>dem colors
Thanks Doc.
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>>86753342
CHULK
HULK
ULK
LK
K
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>>86754844
Sam didn't really pick a side.
He basicly spent the event complaining that noone else was helping him fight the villains due to the event.
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>>86755411

All that makes me think of is Atlanta.

>Mmm, breakfast cup
>you just made that up
>everything's made up nigga stay woke
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>>86753280
>>86753316
I was just joking when I said it in the fanfic issue, but are they actually hooking Miles up with Sam?
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>>86755192
I'm betting it'll be in 20k range by issue 5 and somewhere below that around #10
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>>86755445
if chulk was a wrestler MADE YOU LOOK would be the best audience cheer ever
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>>86753499
>bigger question is why he has no problem walking about barefoot and shirtless.
He's hulk and hes Hornier than Herc
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>>86755463
Wrong. He was right there in Civil War II issues 4 and 5, helping Iron Man in his pointless assault against the Triskelion. He sucker punched Blue Marvel.
>>
>>86753536
What are some good Cho and Hercules stories?
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>>86753698
marvelcucks thinking teens really read comics!
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Oh man Marvels fucked
I went to check tumblr no one is talking about this comic
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I just read this and I spent the entire issue repeating the words "This is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes..." under my breath.

I fucking hated it. I was writhing around on the floor in front of my sofa for the last 30 minutes it was so painful.

>Ayy woke teen comic lmao
If you liked it you're in the wrong place
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Marvels Champions
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>>86755664
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>>86755545
One word: Bendis
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>>86755574
All of them
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>>86755664
No John, you are Reddit. You are memes. Talk like a sensible person.
>>
Is this comic missing pages or some shit? It's almost nonsense.
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>>86755863
>Mark Waid
>>
This art is seriously awful. What the actual fuck is going on at Marvel.
>>
>>86753180

Tyklops = uptight Robin
Viv = naive Starfire

Who is debbie-downer-Raven? class clown Beast Boy? Whatever the heck characterization Cyborg had any given day?

Will there be one or two budding romances? As there is zero change they'll be zero. And will they be cis-normative or will black/hispanic spidey and asian hulk hook up?

All these characters have their own books except Viv and Tyke, and I assume Tyke is still showing up now and then in the X-book? Will Viv be the *only* one allowed to have any characterization in the book?
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>>86755921
The art is also extremely lazy. Half the panels are just the characters on a gradient background, or characters with rocks in the background.
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>>86755967
>Who is debbie-downer-Raven? class clown Beast Boy? Whatever the heck characterization Cyborg had any given day?
Kamala, Sam, Miles.
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>>86753698
>woke
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>>86753180
Better than /co/ told me it would be.
>>
>>86755770
>>86755835
Lurk more, fucking idiots.
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>>86755390
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11368469
You shuldn't have included the joke options
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>>86754376
you dont even know the nationality of the person who came up with Kamala, do you?
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>>86753300
God the commute for Sam must be a hassle
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>>86755507
TOTALLY
OTALLY
TALLY
ALLY
LLY
LY
Y
AWESOME
WESOME
ESOME
SOME
OME
ME
E
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>>86756137
White Anglo-American?
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>>86755982
Or the same panel copied 6 times on one page. Why does this shit seem to only happen at Marvel?
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>>86756199
Pakistani-American, you pleb
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>>86756209
DC has some shitty artists too, but I've never seen such lazy artwork in one of their comics. So many panels of characters on blue/brown gradients.
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>>86753541
>that swing
>that impact with the water
Everyone inside should be dead. This is the kind of situation that led to neck snapped Gwen.
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>>86756199
Wilson (yes, white, but a Muslim and spent years in Kairo) co-created Kamala with Sana Amanat (Pakistani-American).
And created is a strong word. It's Amanat's self-insert.

>>86756229
Technically it's two American citizens, which means their nationality doesn't do squat here.
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>>86753576
Man, we should probably have restrained the bad guy in some manner, if only someone in the team had the ability to produce some sort of sticky substance to... Web him up. If only.
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>>86753629
>FINISH HIM
Kamala cucking Shao Kahn out of his fatality, there can be only one Khan.
>>
>>86753646
>I'm kinda on their side
Sam is too cosmic for this team.
>>
>>86753672
None of the character in this page will make it into 2018.
>>
>>86753251
>>86753464
>>86753498
>>86753646
>>86753698
This is just fucking terrible. Like REALLY terrible. I expected more from Waid (and Marvel). Goddamn.
>>
>mfw CBRfags like it
So far, anyway. Less than one page with comments.
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>>86754844
BENDIS
E
N
D
I
S
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>>86753698
>Instantly taking out their phones in the middle of the public
I don't know, I feel like this wouldn't be in good tastes considering there are fresh corpses. Am I alone in this?

Also I feel like some of the action sequences portrayed in their hostage scenario would have resulted in casualties if they had been done by the adults but suddenly since it's done by the teens there are no accidental deaths because they need to be in the right.
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>>86756425
>I expected more from Waid (and Marvel)
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>>86756416
Kamala and Miles are the only one on the cover who are making it to 2018
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>>86756097
You're not here on /b/, anon. Fuck your shitposting.
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>>86753481
So how was this a "twist" on sex trafficking like they advertised? All they did was ad clown make up to the sex slaves? I was expecting aliens or some shit.
>>
>>86756494
now that you mention it, it is kinda disrespectful
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>>86756494
Edge-lord clowns are topical right now.
Not sure how long ago Waid wrote this.
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>>86756443
It being "Bendis" doesn't mean it doesn't count, since they're referencing a Bendis-written book. It happened and they were a part of it, just like the other Avengers.
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>>86753481
And here I was thinking this would be a superhero comic you could give to kids. Why? I have to assume this is some kind of commentary on DC, but you've got to be kidding me.
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>>86753180

Fuck Champions, Mark Waid, and Humberto Ramos, when are we getting the Great Lakes Avengers issue?
>>
>>86753539
it's fucking beautiful to watch Visionfags get so fucking salty

you all are as bad as the rest of the faggots complaining about shit they don't even read or buy half the fucking time

following characters instead of writers
>>
Way, way better than I thought.

I hate Miles, Kham and Waidvengers, young Cyclops is a bloody abortion, Sam is just sort of OK and ChoHulk is awesome, but this book really is better than the sum of it's parts.

It seems like the "socially conscious" hook isn't SJWisms, it's just not being an inconsiderate, selfish, gloomy asshole like most Marvel heroes.
>>
>>86753251

I mean, Sam's right, Kamala. Offer to help the people who know what they're doing, don't just take a hissy fit at the first opportunity.
>>
>>86753646
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>>86753364
Nice horsey Neal Adams face.
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>>86753652
Coming from a muslim family.

My granny just wears it all the time, because she is used to it . For nonreligious reasons, though.

But i have never seen anyone in my family under the age of 70 wearing it at home for a longer time.

Because it is , most of the time, not just the headscarf , but another thing under that. Thats just not comfy.
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>>86753646
Sigh. I was onboard until this point. I don't think there's anything wrong with political themes seeping into Marvel comics (Spencer does it pretty gracefully in the Cap books), but this page was ludicrous. Didactic speechifying is not good writing. Amadeus about to kill some ersatz Joker? Gtfo Waid.
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>>86753498
and we shall call him
>cuckclown
because pagliacci gets cucked every so often
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>>86756656
Well, Aamir's wife being a a recent convert from a Christian black family, there is literally no reason for her to wear that bulky thing around the table.
In Ms. Marvel they pointedly have her hang around the house in casual clothing.
Which means this is either Waid or Ramos being an idiot, I guess.
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>>86756533
it fucking counts, are you stupid?

half the point of everyone shitting on Civil War 2 is because Bendis writes everyone OOC and the writers of the pro-predictive justice side need to salvage whatever they can from Bendis shitshow
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>>86756137
He doesnt have to know. The Ms. Marvel book is the only one i read, that had any idea about how the daily life of the average Parki-American looks like.

Instead they just resort to lazy clichees, which lead to everyone being bored.
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>>86755594
It's only 10 All the Americuks get up at 3 pm
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>>86756669
The scenario here is pretty weak, yes.
But Kamala is currently walking out of her CW2 tie-in, which has her socially isolated and embarrassed by Carol's totalitarian ambitions.
Caring about the people is her thing anyway, so trying to build a team around the thought of strictly deferring judgement to the judges and avoiding property damage plus caring about the aftermath is absolutely plausible.
I don't recall sustainable heroism being a big political cause.
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>>86753541
Love how Nova just drops this spree killing psycho in the middle of the street full of helpless civilians.
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>>86753719
Yeah, buuuuuuuuuuuut The Maker is here now.
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>>86756862
Our Reed is gone, though.
Also it's hard to count the Maker if he, as they stress every issue, comes in slices.
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>>86753560
>underage
>trafficking victim
>Marvel still gives us a T&A shot
>>
How was Sam wrong? They don't know the first thing about engineering and why would it be a good idea to fix it in a half assed manner that could endanger more if it collapsed?
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>>86753220
>talking and eating at the same time

It's bad etiquette in the West and even more rude in Islam.
>>
Can someone how Ramos keeps getting work? His art is just... Awful...
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>>86757081
Dunno. He's cheap?
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>>86757042
Do you want to go full Bendis and have another panel for that?
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>>86757081
Would you be surprised if I told you comics industry is based on cronyism?
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>>86756976
He isn't wrong. Waid tried creating a strawman and failed.
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>>86753316
> THE ADULTS MESSED UP THIS WORLD WITH THEIR WAR!
Oh my god... Did Marvel finally hire Tomino to write comics? WHICH ONE OF THEM IS CHAR?! THEY ALL HAVE MASKS!
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>>86753865
Kamala hasn't been very likable in her book recently.
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>>86757161
I also feel like there's a disconnect between the art and the writing, particularly the way Ramos drew the action sequence, the women in the crates should have died three times over with the way they were rescued.
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>>86757176
It's all because of you adults!
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>>86753646
You're not going to win back Carol like that, Kamala.
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>>86756842
he broke the pavement doing it so the guy's probably paralyzed. actually he should be dead a few times over by the end of the book.

they all look like huge twats checking their twitter at the end. was that supposed to be satire, or an honest attempt by waid to reach them youngsters?
>>
>mfw Bendis write Ms. Marvel better than Waid

What horrible timeline did I step into?
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>>86753464
> Viv's hand
Holy shit. Is she allergic to something?
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>>86756798
nobody is bored of this book judging by all the DCucks that came rushing to it
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>>86756577
>AH! That will teach you to get attached to a character!
I mean, most of the time you start reading comics because you like character X. How's getting attached to a character a bad thing?
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>>86753481
WUUUUUTTT THE FUCK?!
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>>86757266
>he broke the pavement doing it so the guy's probably paralyzed. actually he should be dead a few times over by the end of the book.
yeah, like I said there's a big ass disconnect between art and writing.
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>>86753180
This was awful

The variants are awful

Waid is awful

Ramos is awful

The price of this is awful

MARVEL is awful
Why do people still like them?
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>>86757266
Even We Are Robin had less cringey use of social media, didn't sound as fake either.
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>>86756425
EAT IT GRANDPA
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>>86757306
>nobody is bored of this book
I agree. Looking at the thread "disgusted" is the right word
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>>86757349

Everything is awful, anon. Welcome to Western comics.
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>>86757315
I never said it was bad, but you guys need to stop behaving like dumbfucks

following characters on Marve is nonsense, as every writer has their own take on it
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>>86755491
Hah, Miles can't stand up and always looks to others and dependent on their actions.
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>>86753342
Okay I kind of like that THOOM
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>>86756416
Moon Girl is inexplicably still going.
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>>86755540
I'm talking about his human form anon.
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>>86753481
It would be wiser not report this to the police? the FBI maybe ..
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>>86757403
I just wanted to see how they would have handled Viv but I guess Waid is waiting for the ending of Vision like the rest of us. Shame really. Oh well, I'll buy the Flintstones.
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>>86753698
It is the end times
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>>86753300
>>86753280
Why is Sam in School at 7:45pm? I feel like the artist forgot how time zones work.
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>>86757389
Not really
DC and tons of other smaller publishers are killing it by at least having mediocre to good books
Even image is still doing better than marvel despite their horrid delays and writers and artists quitting 10 issues in
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>>86753646
>>86753672
Oh I really hope this crossover happens now.

The Champions vs. the teen hero who is all about the righteously brutal homicide
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>>86753267
>Again?

You sometimes forget that Jane has been around the Avengers since the beginning since she was Thor's damsel in distress.
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>>86753646
This would make more sense anywhere other than Marvel
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>>86754079
As only fitting for someone outdated as Waid
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>>86757471

>DC... at least having mediocre to good books

I hope they're at least paying you by the hour.
>>
Let's list all the things we didn't like with the issue.
>Kamala being shown in the right when she argued with Sam even though Sam had a pretty fucking valid point
>Kamala just going "let's fix that mine" after rescuing the miners but not showing them fixing it. They should have demonstrated that their dedication to being heroes for the people first takes effort to make it more admirable than just making it seem like an easy choice anyone can make.
>the entire sequence of them rescuing the slaves, it was badly designed and made it look like both the villain and the slave should have died numerous times but in the end they didn't because the kids were supposed to actually be competent (did Waid and Ramos even talk when making this scene or check each others work?)
>Them taking out their cellphones in front of everyone like a bunch of ADHD retards at the end. Sure gives the public the wrong impression, makes them look like social media glory hogs.
>>
>>86753481
>Viv was aware there was some human trafficking going on
>Didn't intend to do anything about it until Cho asked
What the shit, robot?
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>>86756479
>You're not here on /b/, anon. Fuck your shitposting.
Joke's on you, tumbltard! I got that particular pasta from /tv/!
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>>86753481
Well that escalated quickly.
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>>86753180

FUCKING GODDAMMIT STOP PUTTING RAMOS ON THINGS I WANT TO READ
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Did marvel say this is supposed to be their flagship book?
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>>86753698
we wuz kangs
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I don't want to read this, because shitty art and half of characters are shit. Is it really good? So much replies.
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>>86757976
Eh it's not, suffers from the usual "old man trying to be hip with kids" syndrome.
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>>86757934
Yup. 400k preorders. I think they're also doing a second printing for #1.
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>>86753267

>Chimichangas
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>>86757387
lets not deny the fact that people came here just to shit all over it regardless of how amazing it is. The sales at the end of the month will speak for themselves
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>>86758125
>Marvel relentlessly hyping the book and using incentive variants to push preorders through the roof will determine the quality
We should wait to see how good it does after it stabilizes.
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>>86758081
300K of them going to the Scholastic book fair, we're looking at a near 80% drop for issue 2.
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>>86753220
>Eating the last piece of Karah

Guess somebody needs their throat slit tonight!
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>>86757206
Also, they didn't look like minors at all.
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>>86757226
> waiting for the moment for kamala to explain to the other champions that the world is not square
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>>86753771
South Carolina here: I'm more scared of clowns than I am this hurricane
>>
Everything terrible I predicted has come to pass:

>Kamala has turned into an obnoxious soapbox mouthpiece

>The inclusion of human trafficking was extremely out of place and just made everyone uncomfortable for no real reason, a far cry from The Slavers (one of my favorite stories of all time)

>The reference to ongoing social issues is equally hamfisted and obnoxious, apparently you shouldn’t kill human traffickers because police brutality or something?

>Continuing to shit all over Rightclops because fuck X-men, Inhumans are where it’s at

>HEY YOU KIDS SURE LIKE THE MOBAS AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE TEXTING, RIGHT?

>unironic usage of the term “woke”

Only thing this was missing was in-depth shitting on Sam, him being portrayed as competent was a breath of fresh air.
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>>86753255
Oh yes, Damian takes out the teen titans:rebirth
>>
So a team of superpowered teens decide to put their own stuff together to try to improve the world while rejecting ties to the estabilished heroes like Avengers and X-Men with people from most corners of the Marvel Universe with some activism vibes in it and Nova is a member?

Read this before. It was called "New Warriors"
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>>86753464
F-U-C-K-I-N-G D-R-O-P-P-E-D. I was here only for Vision girl/Nova guy staff, but thay push terrible asian Hulk instead. Disgusting.
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>>86753629
Does this super villain have a power that could aid him in not dieing there? Just curious
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>>86753880
What the fuck are you even talking about right now?
>>
>>86758445

But anon, New Warrirors had Night Thrasher, the man who fought Juggernaut with only a skateboard and cutting remarks.
>>
>>86753339
Omega Men 12 issue maxi-series
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>>86758554
Yes, I read it before and it was much better.
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>>86753631
>Expecting bystanders to restrain a kidnapper.
Great plan, Nova. You moron.
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>>86758445
And no one read Yost's new warriors. Even Nova doesn't remember ever being part of that team.
>>
I'm glad I didn't buy this piece of shit. Looking at the cover of the next one, I won't be buying that one either.

The only reson I'd have given this a shot was for my Cyclops fix. Fucking false advertising huh? I bet that when he does join the book he'll just be the guy who's always wrong about shit.

Can you DROPPED something if you never actually picked it up?
>>
>>86758620
It seemed to suffer too much from mood whiplash IMO. When the two furry characters showed up especially. They were entertaining, yeah, but the sort of 'vibe' the book started out with just started going down into anticcyvile too much (Aracely was GOAT but then a lot of characters were starting to sort of behave like her, just not as overt).

The finale was neat, though.
>>
>>86754993
Just fucking kill them Familia. Those fuckers deserve the worst
>>
>>86754993
205 represent
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>>86753685
This, again?
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>>86753180
>TEEN TITANS DONE RIGHT
You say that as if Teen Titans is bad right now. You say that as if the Wolfman/Perez era didn't exist.
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>>86753251
Just let her fix the train tracks, Sam! Why you gotta be such a dick with your logic and facts?
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>>86758933
The art carried the rebirth book and Wolfman/Perez aged like milk.
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>>86753204
Man, this coloring is doing wonders for Ramos' art.
>>
>>86758982

Sorry does champions have Damian Wayne?

No Damian Wayne?

Ok just checking
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>>86753450
I'd read an ongoing starring those two and maybe Chulk, too. Give it to PAD or Duggan.
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>>86754197
I think we'll see that in a future Issue of the Avengers..
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>>86758700
Doesn't work that way. If you kill one, they take your family to make new ones.

All you can do is wait for them to drink themselves to death.
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>>86757298
Ours.
Good god...
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>>86758982
Keep crying, drone.
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>>86759012
I wasn't the anon you first replied to, just telling you that teen titans is garbage in general and shouldn't be called good unless you have really fucking low standards.
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>>86753646
>punching down

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand dropped
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>>86759337
I'm a huge Rossfag, but his Kamala is goddamn terrible.
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>>86759337
I hope so. I hope none of them got sold, too.
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>>86753633
The water resistance would be the major thing.
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>>86753698
We couldn't have done it without Jenny!
#Champions
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>>86759495
#DeadChildSexSlavesOutForTheChampions
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>>86758115
for the last fucking time, Deadpool never like Chimichanga
>>
I wonder what can you be talking about for so long, considering how boring the comic was
>>
>>86759524
Except when he wouldn't shut the fuck up about it through most of Daniel Way's run, his solo game and his appearance in MvC3. It's only now that Duggan is making an effort to lampshade it.
>>
>>86753691
There is discussion on DC storytimes; they're just not about hating the book because it's good.
>>
>>86759533
Waid being desperate to be acknowledged by teens. Oh and company wars.
>>
>>86759649
Superman had a nice Cooke tribute referencing New Frontier.
>>
This book is somehow less subtle than Captain fucking Planet when it comes to shoving prechy bullshit down your throat. What a load of fucking garbage.
>>
>>86753381

>bad art

you're insulting bad artists, how Ramos keeps doing it is one of the biggest misteries in life.
>>
>>86754267
It's probably the last one
>>
>>86753220
>Stopping a train with one hand

Has she alway been this strong?
>>
>>86759649
Hardly anybody talking about something doesnt mean its good. its called flying under the radar
>>
Ok boys place your bets how much will issue 2 sell
>>
>>86753280
>Isn't that a little lazy
>...
>...
>...
>Not really.
>>
>>86755282
Tiny Kamala with Spidey on Sam's back
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>>86753250
looks kinda like how ramos draws anna maria
>>
This is extremely dated already and it literally just came out
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>>86753180
HAHA TIME FOR SHIPPING
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>>86753514
"I kick a lot of faces"

Line delivered while throwing a punch.
>>
>>86753723
>shit comics be a 1 and a 5

I liked this first issue. It made me feel like I didn't have to ready any previous runs to understand the characters that I wasn't already familiar with implying continuity wasn't ignored and they weren't given all new all different personalities
>>
>>86756390
This. He should take Viv to space. Then he can run into his space gf and things can get really awkward.
>>
>>86753236
Jane skipped arm day
>>
This book was tryhard as fuck. That stupid ass last page with people telling how "woke" the Champions are. Fuck off with that hammy, forced nonsense.

And are we supposed to actually like Kamala here? She comes off as way too preachy and uppity that it's almost overbearing. Sorry kid, but you don't have the years yet nor the charisma of a vet like Green Arrow to be spouting off all this bullshit.
>>
>>86753251
What's up with the yellow-brown text color? It makes everyone look like they're whispering.
>>
>>86753723
id say 2. weakclops might raise it to a 3, but most probably hes gonna job nonstop.

Also anon, ffs stop acting like a shill, just storytime it and move on.
>>
>>86753698
This page sums the current state of Waid as a writer. Good ideas, but lazy writting.
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>>86753481
Amadeus' face on the last panel tells me that he's seen better sex slaves.
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>>86760274
THE CHAMPIONS ARE LIT AF SENPAI
>>
>>86753280
>:51
>:53
Sooooo close, Waid
>>
>>86753723
Thank you for the storytime, Anon. My personal verdict.

I like the characters chosen for the book a LOT. Each of them has a set of cool directions they can go in, and the binding tie of a shared view of the world they're presented with is a good one. The script had good supporting elements too.

The core of the plot was goddamn horrific for a #1 issue of a teen comic. Christ, why so much edge? Was it the only thing the fucker could think of?
Also - the errors with facial expressions drew me out of the story far too hard as I was forced to look at them.
Lastly, 6 panel recycle aged gag is a cardinal sin in 2016. We outgrew that shit over a decade ago.

Anyone paying 5 bucks for this got robbed so hard.
>>
>>86757532
You know that Sam would be on his side.
>>86758982
Wolfman is garbage but Perez is GOAT
>>
>>86753698
How do you do, fellow #champions?
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>>86753481
Huge what the fuck.. Marvels Teen Titan clone is dealing with sex trafficking?
>>
So why did you expect this to be good, /co/?
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>>86756425
>I expected more from Waid (and Marvel)
Why?
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>>86760639
Solid team lineup. I was left disappointed.
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>>86760639
Anyone who expected this to be any good should get institutionalized.
>>
>>86760712
>>86760686 here, try and take me fag.
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>>86760754
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>86753539
>He's never turned to vidya as escapism fit coping with personal trauma
Wew lad
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>>86757081
He is cheap. Everybody thinks he has a "fresh" style and some shit like that.
>>
>>86756568
How is it a commentary on DC? Please explain
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>>86760084
I expect it to fall to 60kish and then to 30kish
>>
>Most talked about thread on /co/

Marvel does it again
>>
>>86758506
Clearly Cho saw that he had super durability when he survived being smashed against the pavement and knew that a full-strength blow wouldn't kill him.
>>
>>86753192
>Spider-man
Fuck you. That's not Spider-man.
>>
>>86753698
I know you're upset over being stuck with these losers, but that's not how you facepalm, Viv.
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>>86753646
>Or anything old-school like that
E A T I T
A
T
I
T
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>>86753314
Not yet, there's one more issue to go. This was supposed to come out after Civil War II, but the series was postponed so many times that some comics set after the event (such as this one) have already been published
>>
>>86755008
Roll 1d20 and add your dex modifier
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>>86759309
Mind your trigger discipline, anon
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>>86753694
Fuck you I liked Threeboot despite the boring parts
>>
>>86753698
10/10 unintentional self parody got me genuinely laughing. I fucking love Sam and the idea of him on a team with these members so I was really hoping this would be good. I may just end up pulling it anyway if Waid keeps being so bad he wraps around into hilarious.

>>86753723
Going to pretend you meant 5 is a good comic like Sandman, in which case 2.
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>>86754003
Given that Lodbell is a 5/10 writer, his book is guaranteed to be better than a fair batch of current writers.
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>>86753541
>Snap
Waid you madman
>>
>>86756416
Cyclops has and will.
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>>86761180
>Most of the discussion is ripping it to shreds

Yeah I don't think that's the kind of 'most talked about' one should look for in a comic
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>>86759309
>Not reading Pak Superman
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>>86761990
Have you not been paying attention for the past decade? People hate this shit, but it makes Marvel money. Every time. They make far more money on something that everyone hates with a passion, than a comic that's actually good and liked.
>>
>>86755390
>Tfw you're the tie breaker between meh and bad
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>>86755863
This poor anon is so used to decompression that he's lost when a comic moves at a good pace. Sad.
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