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This guy is the worst Marvel Villain yet. I liked Cottonmouth

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This guy is the worst Marvel Villain yet. I liked Cottonmouth and Shades but this fucker was just retarded.
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>>86725037

BYE FELICIA
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>>86725037
You say that as if Malekith and Mandarin dont already exist
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>>86725037
I must be the only guy that liked him. He was corny and overblown, but it worked in a Blaxploitation/Kung-Fu kind of way. And I'm always for even attempts at comic-like costumes.

I won't disagree that Cottonmouth, Shades, and Black Mariah were better, though.
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>>86725037
C'mon, he's Luke's brother, and Luke's corny as hell.

Luke also looked like a damned fool in costume
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>>86725064
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>>86725072
Yeah, Malekith is easily the worst MCU villain.

Diamondback was sort of all over the place. Cottonmouth was definitely the more intimidating villain, and he couldn't even hurt Luke!
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Series wasn't bad, but it was definitely underwhelming.


... and for fuck's sake can we please not do the "criminal who gets away with everything" story for Iron Fist? We've did it for DD, JJ, and now LC.

Can Iron Fist please just be fucking off-the-wall kung fu shenanigans and shit please?
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>>86725037
I thought he was great in a "that niggas crazy" blaxploitation kind of way.
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>>86725077
CAN YOU DIG IT?!!!
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>>86725037
I thought he was entertaining, and fun to have on screen, but he was really really stupid, and was by far the worst thing about the show, he felt out of place, was pretty contrived, and just made no sense on any level.

But he was pretty fun. BYE FELICIA.
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>>86725164
>>... and for fuck's sake can we please not do the "criminal who gets away with everything" story for Iron Fist? We've did it for DD, JJ, and now LC.

Huh? Kingpin went to jail, JJ kills Kilgrave, Punisher kills that general guy, etc.

LC had an obvious villains get away thing, but that's set up for the next season. What are the other cases?
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>>YFW they kill off the female Diamondback and replace her with the male Diamondback for MCU synergy.
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>>86725309
How about we just make The Serpent Society without Diamondback? Would rather see them fight Captain America anyway
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Why didn't Luke just punch him in the mouth?
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Luke Cage was fantastic in the beginning, meh in the middle and bretty gud in the end.
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>>86725247
Even if they get caught at the end you still have to sit through a dozen episodes of the same old shit with witnesses getting killed, cops getting tricked, bad guys covering shit up, etc etc etc.

The whole trope is overdone in film and television enough as it is without seeing that shit done four times in four series from the same studio.


I really really want Iron Fist to do something different.. hell, I want them to go full Big Trouble in Little China with that shit.
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>>86725247
>>86725686
King Pin had his empire brought down by DD, and has slowly been rebuilding it in S2. Hand was mentioned in S1, and was the main baddies in S2 where they were mostly destroyed, but got what they wanted in the end.

JJ had a few villainous characters on the sidelines, like the guy on super drugs, his organization, Trinity's law firm that might end up being evil, and a few others.

LC either touches on JJ's evil organization or sets up his own, sets up a new king/queen of the Harlem crime scene, sets up a potential superpowered villain in Diamondback, actually christens the Night Nurse, and sets up Misty to leave the police and start her own gig.

The only negative things I have for Luke Cage is that I didn't like that Misty jumped in the sack with Luke on the first episode basically to show as much skin as possible and then they carry. I felt like it kinda cheapened her character to be just a bootycall.

>>86725037
Was amazing, I liked him a lot because he was crazy but also crafty and sneaky. He came off as the kind of person that could set up as a weapons dealer scary enough that people don't ever talk about his real name, but also have such a personal vendetta against Luke that he would do all that shit. Also his suit didn't bother me because it is stolen hammer tech. They didn't design it, the suit was probably built for a white guy a few inches smaller than him, and the suit came in that color. Also it reminded me of the outfits from V and the color scheme reminded me of Doomguy.
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>>86725037

NEGRO PLEASE

He was beyond based.
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>>86725077
>I must be the only guy that liked him.
You're not. He was fun.
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>>86725247
The Hand got pretty much everything they were after in Daredevil Season 2.
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>>86725077
This is pretty much how I feel, too.
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>>86726818
I think they might be the main villains of Defenders, so it's setting them up.
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>>86725077
The costume was silly, but I loved everything else about him.
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>>86725037

What's the matter?

You're not gonna beg?

Not even a lil bit?
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>>86725037
go away

he was fucking glorious

erik laray harvey did an awesome performance
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>>86725037

Hes full cornball blaxploitation and a ton of fun cause of that. The show needed more dips into pure cheese really. More stuff like the rocketlauncher reveal and I'M YO BRUTHA
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>>86726846
>might be
The Defenders teaser has newspaper and magazine clippings peeling away to reveal the shape of a hand, and followed by a warning by Stick. I think it's pretty confirmed.
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>Nigga, I AM your brotha.

>yfw
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>>86725077
>Black Mariah
>better
The absolute worst villain on the show.
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>>86726963
I KNOW RIGHT
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>>86725309
NO, JUST LET DIAMONDBACK AND CONSTRICTOR BE HAPPY TOGETHER

FUCK
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>>86726094
>The only negative things I have for Luke Cage is that I didn't like that Misty jumped in the sack with Luke on the first episode basically to show as much skin as possible and then they carry. I felt like it kinda cheapened her character to be just a bootycall.

That annoyed me that the first episode they're flirting and hooking up and the entire rest of the season is him hooking up with Claire. And he doesn't even mention Jess Jones the entire time, got over her pretty fast.
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>>86727007
I didn't enjoy her either. Cottonmouth and Shades were, in my opinion, really good villains while Diamondback was corny and fun but Mariah just seemed boring to me. Plus she killed Cottonmouth.
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>>86725037
I liked him until he put on the suit. That shit was cheesy as fuck.
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>>86725072
Mandarin was one of the best, I legitimately don't understand how plebs hate the twist

It's just that the real real villain was so bland that people just attribute the blandness to the mandarin
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>>86727007
I hated how it built up to nothing. They kept talking about her becoming Mama Mabel.
Mama Mabel cut off a nigga's finger with her pruning shears. The most Mariah did after her murder of Cottonmouth was sell someone else's guns. It didn't lead up to anything except for Shades bailing her out. She was barely anything by the end except a rabble rouser and a nightclub owner.
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>>86727039
Constrictor is dead, he died of cancer.
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>>86727088
It's setting her up as a villain next season, this one she wasn't a villain just a shady politician getting sucked into the criminal world. The end of the season showed her replacing the Biggie picture with a picture of two guys with crowns, implying Mariah and Shades are the kings now that Diamondback and Cottonmouth are gone.
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>>86727075

He looked great
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>>86725037
>>86727075

Literally robocop in pajamas.
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>>86727136
Someone said her murder of Cottonmouth should've been the end of the season, and I sort of agree.
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>>86727256
People say that about every marvel show, it's getting annoying.

>hurr daredevil should have ended after Punisher got arrested
>Jessica Jones should have ended after the first time they tried to kill Killgrave
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>>86727007
Yeah, she pretty much just had Shades bailing her ass out constantly. Hopefully if they bring her back she'll do more.
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>>86727275
I suppose. DD S1's finale was underwhelming.
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>>86725037
fuck off he waa great

favorite villain so far
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He got them crazy eyes.

CRAZY
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>>86727331
I agree the first halves are usually stronger then the second but people here always act like the second half of all these show's seasons are the worst thing ever created. They're still good they just shift focus to different villains and plots.
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>>86725037
he was a refreshing comic book-y villain that we haven't really seen out of the netflix series yet
I enjoyed the corny one-liners and grandstanding

>NIGGA I AM YOUR BROTHER
>PULL THE TRIGGER NIGGA
hard to believe it took as long as it did for Luke to figure it out
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>>86727394
I just wish they could stick the landing is all.
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>>86725037
He was good until he got that shit suit
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>>86725037

He was fun, funny, dangerous, menacing, smart, cunning. Literally ticks all the boxes for what a villain should be.

You're just a hater
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>>86727275

What the fuck is the point of stringing along the season for so long if it's almost nothing but filler till the very end? That's shitty writing. There is so much goddamn fluff that could be cut in these shows that it's ridiculous.
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>>86728051

They have a 13 episode quota to fill. That said, the netflix shows are still the best most intelligently written pieces of cape adaptations being put out today.
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There was nothing remotely snake-like about that suit.
He looked like a garbage man.
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>>86728079
And that's extremely sad if true.
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>>86728134

>if true
>if

Sure pal
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>>86725037

>Shades

Lol I couldn't take this dude seriously.

He jobbed to an injured Misty and Claire.
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>>86728149
Oh, I'm sorry. I only watch Netflix shit because idiots like you keep telling me that it's THE BEST WRITTEN CAPESHIT EVER
Are you saying the rest of cape garbage is somehow even dumber?
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>>86728168

Are you having a panic attack that's making you not know how to read basic text? If you're calling it capeshit, why do you even watch it? Are you a masochist?
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>>86727275
Jessica Jones should have never existed to begin with.
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>>86728168
>Are you saying the rest of cape garbage is somehow even dumber?

Yes, that pretty much is what everyone is saying. What's your point?
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>>86728223
>"w-why are you watching it, hater" when I specifically explained why I watched it
>accuses others of being incapable of reading basic text
Oh, the irony.
>>86728234
How about you learn to read and see >>86728134 for my point?
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>>86725077
As a Blaxploitation villain, he was great. People kind of lose sight of that though.
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>>86728273
Yeah, I got some great Black Dynamite feels from "Nigga, I AM your brother!"
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S2 DD Kingpin > Cottonmouth (was amazing and could've been even better, but thanks to Mariah never reached his full potential) > S1 DD Kingpin > Shades > Diamondback >>>>>>>>>Nobu > shit > Black Mariah (not the last only because she has potential to grow) > Purple man.
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>>86728224
I still don't understand why they went with Jessica Jones, she is only famous for getting raped by Purple man and marrying Luke Cage. Of all the female superheroes they have, they picked someone that isn't even a real superhero...

The biggest thing I hated about JJ was Jessica herself, so stupid, so female powertrip, so unable to even learn from her mistakes, and the end is just a huge asspull that reminds me of a TV show that found out midseason that it would be their last season.

I kinda liked Patsy Walker, I even liked how the background of her being forced to dye her hair red, but it just didn't mesh with me at all.
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>>86728257

>explained why I watched it

So you spend 13 hours of your life watching stuff you don't even really have an interest in cause anonymous posters told you to?

You /tv/ cronies really do have some serious issues.
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>>86725119
Will we ever see her on the big screen?
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>>86728383
As long as Sony is still around, she would be played by a black tranny.
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>>86728392
I hope we never see her on the big screen.
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>>86728383

>Bootleg cat-woman
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>>86728415
Felicia is superior to Selina.
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>>86728383
Marvel hates her right now, so no. At least, I hope not, because if she was, they'd just shit on her the entire movie.
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>>86728325
To add the insult to injury, it has Patsy fucking Walker, you know, an actual member of Defenders in the comics. We could've had a decent horror/mystical Hellcat series instead of "drugs are bad, rapists are pathetic, subtext is obvious" the series.

>The biggest thing I hated about JJ was Jessica herself, so stupid, so female powertrip, so unable to even learn from her mistakes, and the end is just a huge asspull that reminds me of a TV show that found out midseason that it would be their last season.
Personally, I hated the main villain much more and not in a "he's so evil and despicable" kind of way either.
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>>86728257
So you're watching it because it's the best adaptation of cape-series... and you're bitching that it isn't good enough.
Well as has been said before, "Yes, they ARE the best we have now."
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>>86728429
Not anymore :^)
This is the hell you chose when you paid for Slott's comics, Spiderfags.
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>>86725037
>i liked shades
Fucking how? He was shit tier writing wise and even worse acting wise.
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>>86727463
then he became GREAT
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>>86728799
He looked like the white guy lost in a rap video, trying to fit in by doing a "black smile".
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Luke Cage was funny in that it had 3 villains who were told how to beat Luke and said don't worry i got dis and then lost or died.
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>Diamondback
>Cottonmouth
>Bushmaster

Is there any particular reason Luke (and Danny) had a bunch of snake themed villains that were totally independent from each other and Captain America's snake themed villains?
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mariah needs to go full psycho black mariah in s2 to pay off all the little weird ticks and cracks that showed this season

that one awkward pause in the interview where she blinks one eye at a time
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How it shouldve been

>Live concerts didnt end on episode 6
>Cottonmouth getting his business wrecked
>Niggas he hires dont want anything to do with Luke
>One nigga stepped up its Diamondback wearing a snakeskin jacket
>Hammer cameo giving Cottonmouth a tour shows him the suit
>Cottonmouth didnt die like a bitch
>Luke beat the shit out of him destroying his teeth
>He wears a fanged grill rest of the episode
>Cottonmouth got arrested but got out cause Black Maria won the election and pulled some strings
>Last episode Luke getting escorted to a truck not a van
>Danny was with him on the truck
>Iron Fist takes place at the same the Luke Cage is
>Exchanged story how both of them are innocent to replace their tv retcon Danny is not his buddy
>hey Luke wanna lets bail
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>>86725107
Luke should not be corny
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>>86725037
Thats cool op.

Long as you aren't one of those fags wishing for 100% comic book accurate costumes and hammy performances.
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>>86727080
Fake Mandarin was great. The twist was fun. Trevor was great.
But goddamn would Fake Mandarin have been even better as Real Mandarin.
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>>86725037
They shouldve kept the comic origin and backstory for him and Luke. FAR more compelling and relevant to the street level stuff than the preacher bs
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Shades was straight up garbage.

Zip and Tone got more stuff done.
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>>86725037
>"What the hell, what type of Jean Paul Gaultier shit is this?"
>"What are you, a pimp stormtrooper?"
>"No, I'm the angel of death."
Personally I loved Diamondback.
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>>86728950

always
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>>86728966
If by "got stuff done" you meant get taken out, then yes.
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>>86728983
Siempre
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>>86728985

Yes they died, but at least they didn't get beat up by 2 women, 1 of whom was half way bleeding to death.
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>>86729003
I'd rather take an ass beating and come out on top than a bullet to the fucking skull.
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>>86728961
Not really sure why they made them both come from Georgia instead of being Harlem natives, either.
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>>86729014

Not the point. Hernan is nothing more than a henchman jobber, an overrated one at that.
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>>86729023
Because he's a fugitive hiding far away.
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>>86729035
So? Seagate was just as far from NY in the comics, and everyone thinks Carl Lucas is dead anyway.
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>>86728325
>I still don't understand why they went with Jessica Jones, she is only famous for getting raped by Purple man and marrying Luke Cage. Of all the female superheroes they have, they picked someone that isn't even a real superhero...
Because Bendis and Perlmutter are buddies and Alias is still held up as proof that Bendis isn't a shit writer.
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>>86728383
I wouldn't be surprised if she got her own Netflix show down the line.
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>>86725037
Hello my Nubian brothers and sistas. My name is Luke Cage and I have a giant 13 inch glistening mandingo penis ready for the taking. We waz kangs and shit, (puts dollar in swear jar) and we must work together to fight the man and reclaim whats ours. I put my hoodie on As-salamu alaykum.
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>>86728859
It was the 70's, and they all die.
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>>86728490
Luckily Silk and even miles' book are working on fixing that. Though she is being set up to start being a villain in Ms. Marvel but who knows maybe she will end up sorta mentoring another young heroine.
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>>86729026
Shades beat Zip so by default that makes him worse. As Zip got done in by the guy who got beat by two half dead women.
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>>86727042
Yeah, he took the whole "had my free will completely stripped of me and tried to murder a woman I slept with who also killed my wife under the influence of the same guy who raped my free will" thing pretty damn well.
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>>86730426
Shades got beat by a nurse and a cop without her arm.
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>>86725077

I thought that too. Plus he had some pretty good lines.
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>>86726915
AGREED!!!! 1000% I don't know how old half of these faggots are, but I'm telling you now if any of you grew up reading Marvel Comics (when they ACTUALLY mattered) which is pretty much everything from 1961 to 1989, you'd all be going bonkers over this character!! In the best way!!

Diamondback is THE MOST MARVEL VILLAIN I have ever seen in a show or on screen thus far. Purple Man and Fisk are next on list, but Diamondback was phenomenal!!!

He's eccentric, funny as fuck, off his rocker and willing to fight in the middle of the street surrounded by cops and shit like the Marvel villains of old. Other good examples of this were Crossbones, Iron Monger and Whiplash in that order, but none of them sounded like Diamondback who was LITERALLY channeling the comic books of my youth.

Diamondback - 1

/co/ - 0
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>>86730401
>Though she is being set up to start being a villain in Ms. Marvel
Really?
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>>86727275
It's only annoying because people see that the quality drops after a few episodes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSPkx294gTc
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>>86727007
Mariah seemed like she was afraid of everything. Only in the final episode did she feel like a main villain
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>>86727233
Literally how he looked in the comics. I assume the helmet is so Luke doesn't just smack him upside the head.
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>>86725037
He was just deliciously cheesy and camp all the time, even in the more serious moments
He was this shittalkin' bible quotin' bad mamajama who really, really hated Luke and he showed up after Cottonmouth who was pretty great
>what's your big plan to turn people against him?
>I'm going to put on a hoodie and punch some cops really hard with these power fists while yelling "AHHM LUKE CAGE"
he also should have used dumb gimmick knives instead of getting super armor and being discount Luke
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>>86729023
Too me that was probably the worst thing the show did. It's literally a huge change for Luke, who's supposed to be the urban hero.

Wonder how this will affect his dynamic with Danny know that they're both outsiders
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>>86730045
Try again, this time with a bit more effort please?
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>>86734356
*now
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>>86725143
diamondback was literally something out of Black Dynamite sometimes. Those were his best moments.
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I think I would've preferred if Diamondback's suit had more texture to it, or at least some additional tech bits to make it look like it was impact absorbing and strength enhancing. Something more like Crysis' nanosuit would have worked for this. Imagine this done up in a similar motif to Diamondback's comic look.
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>>86731312
This guy gets it. I was losing my shit when he showed up at Pops with the green bulletproof jumpsuit with a strength enhancing reactor only to throw down in the most public of ways possible. Everything about that moment was pure comic book cheese
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>>86728160
I mean, he was clobbered to the back of the head from behind. Not that unrealistic, just that the show went from "How is Luke not puncturing lungs left and right" to "One bunk on the head and you can be pretty disoriented"
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>>86734631
Then he'd probably end up looking like the CW's The Atom. He just needed a better helmet/mask and maybe some more visual cues.

Also, Luke obviously saw his power source was the thing on his back and yet he did nothing to destroy it. He even grabbed him from behind! What the hell, doesn't make sense.
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>>86729067
>I just escaped from prison and I don't want anyone to track me down
>I should go home where everyone knows me
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>>86734885
As cape television costumes go, the Atom's isn't bad. It looks like Ironman on a budget because it is - Diamondback doesn't necessarily need that much hard armor but the suit still needed to look more like it had tech built into it. They could have achieved that with more cables or piping running along the breast, shoulders and arms but the couple of bits poking out here and there didn't really read that well.
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>>86734651
Pure comic book greatness, my friend. Pure comic book greatness!! But I know what you meant!
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>>86727451
They don't feel like short contained stories anymore.

The more they do of these shows the more I feel like Rosario Dawson's character is the real focus of the four seasons series.

She seems to be the most effected out of all the normies, I keep waiting for her to turn out to be a real character given a different name.
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>>86736020
They're just using her as a means to connect everyone together, I doubt they'll do anything major with her. I was surprised when she had such a big role in this though, she was great in it.
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>>86728950
Nigga did you even read the brothers book.

Fucker says "Sweet Christmas" because they wanted to do a cheesy blacksploitation comic. He also doesn't say nigga or nigger.
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>>86736020
>I keep waiting for her to turn out to be a real character given a different name
She is a real character.
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>>86725072
I think this guy was worse than Malekith. Malekith as an almost nonentity was better than Diamondback.
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>>86727080
>9fag calling anyone else a pleb
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>>86736020
Yeah, she's a amalgamation of a couple of those "Night Nurse's" from back in the day. She is an actual Marvel comic book character whose job it is to patch up street brawling heroes like Luke and DD.

Bendis even revamped the Night Nurses not too long ago.

Look it up. Or if you're too lazy for that throw this in your search engine:

Night_Nurse_(2015)_(Digital)_(Zone-Empire).cbr
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>>86726963
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>>86736405
Nice comeback, did your husband did it for you?
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>>86736020
Claire Temple was in Luke Cage, Hero For Hire #1 and was Luke's love interest for a long time.
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>>86725037
>worst Marvel Villain yet
i-is this possible?
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>>86727075
Hammer tech is always a joke.
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>>86728383
She was in Amazing Spider-Man 2, so...yes.
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>>86727039
How about a sassy female Constrictor who shacks up with TV Diamondback?
>Mmm, I'd love to wrap my coils around that!
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Diamondback was great, but was overshadowed by Cottonmouth and Black Mariah which were absolutely fantastic.
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