Luke Cage Spoiler Duscussion

>>86676628
I don't like Luke Cage.

>>86676628

My nigga

>>86676628
Nigga, I am your brother > No, I am your father.

>>86676628
Just finished episode 4. Like it so far, but I cant help but feel like this plot is paper thin

>>86676662
WAIT
Correction
I should have said I don't like Luke Cage but the show was pretty good. I enjoyed it.

Thoughts:

Shades was a badass. I liked Juice a lot more than I thought I would and I'm glad he survived.

Cottonmouth really grew on me and I wish he'd been the overall antagonist.

Black Mariah really grew on me too. I'm looking forward to seeing her grow into the queenpin next season.

Misty's actress was good but they made her do stupid shit for the sake of the plot.

I felt some of the references to the broader MCU were really jarring.

The Wire cameos were great.

>>86676690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE

Both named Luke.How did I not realize that?

>>86676713
Cottonmouth is the realistic, complex, morally abstract villian.

he was evil, but not super evil, just really fucked by his childhood.

"Diamondback" was an actual "super villian" in the fact he's completely nutbars, and it takes a really crazy nigga to be caught dead in that super-suit, shows just how much he wanted Luke dead and embarrassed.

>>86676861
>much he wanted Luke dead and embarrassed
Embarrassed by association, that his brother would go outside wearing such a lame suit.

>>86676914
That cheesy ass suit was my favorite part of the show for me.

>>86676628
I still have about 4 more episodes to go, but it feels really weirdly paced. Couple examples (spoilers below):

1. Cottonmouth learns about Luke Cage's past and threatens to reveal his criminal past unless he works for him. Luke decides to skip town but later doesn't have to because Cottonmouth's cousin kills him in a family fight.

2. Hey, remember that assassin that shot those alien bullets at Cage? That's actually the mysterious mob boss Diamondback that Cottonmouth was afraid of. He's apparently a real hands-on guy and likes to spout Warriors quotes and bible verses in place of being interesting. Also he's Cage's brother, probably. I mean, they front-load this guy with bad exposition.

3. I felt like the writers never really knew what to do with Cottonmouth. This guy was like the ghetto Luthor to Superman, but without the brilliance. He does do some clever asymmetrical moves against Cage like having his guys raid Harlem in retribution, but he doesn't do much else to harm Cage. His own fucking cousin has to suggest drowning, burning, or poisoning him -- all much more cheaper and efficient solutions than waiting on some guy's magic gun, but he never even tries those things. The writers tried to lay on some sympathy for Cottonmouth with flashbacks, but I didn't care too much by then. The guy was constantly shown as being disrespected by his peers and really, they had every right to do so. He's a brash asshole that doesn't stand up to other Netflix villains very well.

I love the blaxploitation flavor of the series, and I don't mind the long dialogue scenes, but it feels like it could have been better if they cut the series short by a few episodes. I have similar problems with Jessica Jones.

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>>86676628
Thought it was pretty boring for a comic like Luke Cage. The plot felt really drawn out and generic without any kind of mystery or intrigue like DD & JJ had. And of all the villains they could have picked they went with a nightclub owner...

I was expecting something a little less gritty and realistic for this show desu. It felt like it did everything JJ and DD did, but did it worse.

A Heroes for Hire show would've been miles better. Colter had the charisma of a tabletop in this, needs Danny to bounce off of.

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>>86676975
With the helmet on it reminded me of Constrictor.

I was actually wondering, with two snake named villains in the show, if a Serpent Society thing was in the works.

Amd I thought for half a second we'd get an actual Sam Rockwell/Justin Hammer cameo since Diamondback seemed to have a straight line to his tech.

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>>86676914
Hamertech
>lame
Come on, dude

>>86676628
Top tier moments and characters:

Shades
Mariah Stokes
The callbacks to both Lukes and Misty's classic suits

The final fight might as well have had someone yell worldstar

Trash tier

The method man cameo
Its Night Nurse tries to save someone for 2 episodes!

>>86677057
But Diamondback was the villain. And it has way more cheese than grit.

>>86677057
I kind of see where you are coming from. I liked the show, but the blatant timing and plot similarities to DD and JJ structure wise was really irritating imo.

can cage take direct minigun fire?

>>86677288
His skin (and the subcutaneous skin) can deflect bullets, but he can still feel the force of something strong enough.

Minigun fire would probably knock him on his ass, at least.

>>86677057
That isn't even possible. JJ was terrible & had the worst pacing of any all the MCUs easy
I don't think, I've watched any JJ episode more than once desu.

Well, overall I liked it. Still, things that fucking sucked and damaged my over all enjoyment...

>Alien-material bullets that will soon be widely available any time they want to make Luke Cage vulnerable, because it was too hard to think around his abilities.
>Misty being a dumbass through most of the show.
>Cage piercing bullets.
>Claire having such a large role and being Luke's love interest.
>Bullets that can hurt Luke, and it likely being widely known they exist thanks to how publicized his manhunt was.
>Luke being wholly altruistic by the end, so unlikely to be a Hero for Hire.
>Luke going back to jail at the end.
>Fucking Judas bullets.

Luke has one thing. One fucking thing. He can STAND while even Captain America and the other mortal and unarmored heroes have to duck or run for cover. Except, not in the MCU, because any clip could contain Judas bullets if there is even a whiff they might be facing him.

>>86676628
Finished it just now. Real niggerkino

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>>86677407
nigga*

>>86677389
I thought it was neat that Judas bullets are essentially bolter shells from Warhammer 40k. Not saying it was deliberate, but my nerd brain noticed the similarity.

>>86677067
I really want the Serpent Society to be a thing. But instead in a Cap movie with Madame Hydra.

>>86677389
I got so excited when I saw Diamondback kill that one guy at the meeting with the knife. And The bullets weren't working that well and I was hoping, PRAYING. Please sonic emitting throwing knives, please exploding knives and other gimmick knives.

Black Mariah had such a great idea about drowning him or poisoning him. And having like a steet gang coming up with crazy fucking Bond villain traps Luke gets tricked into the rest of the show would have been fun.

>>86677389
>>Luke going back to jail at the end.
Bob found the files and Matt is gonna be his lawyer. He would be fine.

>Luke has one thing. One fucking thing. He can STAND while even Captain America and the other mortal and unarmored heroes have to duck or run for cover. Except, not in the MCU, because any clip could contain Judas bullets if there is even a whiff they might be facing him.

Well, it would be hard to making stories for him without these bullets. He is doing great in comics but I think they take this direction because limited villains and screentime etc. I am not that fan of it but these bullet explosions, Claire and that doctor saving him were awesome.

>>86677451

I might have liked them more if they initially did nothing on impact, and the damage came from the concussive force of the explosions. But having them actually pierce? It pretty much renders Luke toothless in any fight the enemy may know he is coming, and adds unwanted tension to gun fights which should just be fun while watching Luke.

If I want to watch a hero fear bullets, ALL the other Defenders are better for that theme. Luke is supposed to be the Thing of the team.

>>86677451
That dawned on me too, after a while.

>>86677459
Every time I heard Diamondback I was getting my hopes up.

>>86677102
So where does this put us in a general technology level in MCU?
That hammersuit, obviously not a snazzy as an Ironmon suit, must be mass producible and have some kind of military contract in the works.

Since we're giving random opinions that won't matter in a hour or two, I might as well give my own.

Overall this was fantastic show. In many ways, it was the opposite of DD SE1: it was more plot/story heavy, with sprinkled in bits of action. Most of the characters felt pretty fleshed out and evolved by the end, (except for Diamondback who I felt was introduced too late in the season, but I'm glad he's more than likely coming back.) and I surprisingly like fair bit of 'em. I'm not a /tv/ expert, so I can't give an opinion on the way it was shot, the light, or the choreography, but the music was awesome as well. Some of the scenes that felt like they would've been boring were suddenly uplifted when the track played. The overall story was surprisingly easy to follow without relying on lore too much, and made sense.

Individually, my favorite character would have to be Misty or Cottonmouth. Luke was pretty good too, but I felt the actor occasionally droned through his lines--- it was a bit awkward when this happened and another actor was in direct contrast when speaking.

There are probably a few other pet-peeves, but I can't remember them right now. I'd rank this around DD SE1, but not better (action always keeps me entertained more). Though, I can see why a few people may not like it; it's tonally different than the rest of the Netflix shows so far.

>>86676861
I liked the super suit. It managed to both resemble his comic look and also not look completely stupid. When I saw the still set photos, I thought it was trash, but it somehow worked in motion.

>>86677561
>I'm not a /tv/ expert
So you aren't a shitposter? That is great.

>>86677550
It seems like an intentional downgrade after what happened with the suits in Iron Man 2 and the Patriot armor in 3. Something that just enhances and protects soldiers without a computer that can be hacked. Doesn't need an Arc reactor to power it. Probably cheaper to produce.

>>86677524
>Bob found the files and Matt is gonna be his lawyer.
And/or Foggy now that he's on Hogarth's legal team for superheroes.

I felt bad for Zip.

>>86677523
>Black Mariah had such a great idea about drowning him or poisoning him. And having like a steet gang coming up with crazy fucking Bond villain traps Luke gets tricked into the rest of the show would have been fun.

Fucking this. Literally waited at least one episode about her ideas. Who knows? Maybe we can see something like it in the future.

>>86677627
Matt would be better for The Defenders show build up but yeah what you are saying is still possible.

>>86677547
Not all hope is lost, we still have King Cobra, Rattler, Anaconda, Constrictor, Bushmaster, and Death Adder available

>>86677665
Speaking of lead ups, Claire grabbing that number for martial arts lessons when Iron Fist is coming up is so tongue in cheek, I got a chuckle out of that.

There were a lot of Boardwalk Empire and Wire cast members in it, I half expected Michael K Williams to stroll through the background.

Speaking of Defenders, is it confirmed to be a mini-season with 4 eps?

>>86677714
I had enough of her 2bh. But Claire is gonna be the connecting line for the other 4 main characters. Well we will see.

>>86677749
>Black Mariah's trap fails
>ohgodno.jpg
>Another trap idea comes to her mind suddenly
>evillaugh.mp3

>>86677665
No doubt that's gonna be part of that show, unless Luke Cage S2 happens first.

>>86676628
The music was shit.

>big black guy fighting people
>no X Gonna Give it to Ya

>called Powerman
>no Powerman 5000

>fights cops
>no Fuck Da Police

>goes to prison
>no House of the Rising Sun

>no Queen anywhere
>not even Bohemian Rhapsody

>>86677825
Oops, deleted that post by mistake.

>Will Luke escape Black Mariah' death trap? Find out next week! Same Power Time, same Power Channel!

>>86677889
>>fights cops
>>no Fuck Da Police
He literally fucked a cop. I think that is enough.

>>86677952
>He literally fucked a cop.
I'm still mad.

That's Danny's girl!

>>86677389
Eh, the Judas rounds are supposedly made of this rare and expensive alien metal. They'll run out.

>>86677389
>Claire having such a large role and being Luke's love interest.

Claire was Luke's original love interest in the comics. I definitely liked that better than her and DD or Luke and Misty. I was hoping that by the end, Luke and Claire would turn Pop's into a clinic.

I definitely liked it. Wish there was more of a payoff at the end. Luke is good. I like the character but Mike Colter sometimes delivers his lines like someone learning to read.

Cottonmouth was great. Black Mariah was pretty good.
The origin stuff was fantastic. Episode 4 was probably the best.
Claire Temple is always a good character.
Misty was great. I fell in love by the end. I really hope she and Trish Walker go full comic book next time we see them.
Speaking of Trish, I loved her radio appearance and the Hammer Tech references but was really disappointed in the complete lack of cameo/crossover.

>>86678002
the issue is that they can pull them out at any time they can't be bothered to write out a good situation.

>>86678001
Now they are eskimo brothers, anon.

Thread theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk67TqxQzGo

Luke has been pulling so much tail in these shows I was half expecting him to get a three way going with Claire and Misty.

>>86678076
That isn't a cool thing to be. It's weird. Also probably offensive to Eskimos.

>>86678001
I would feel so weird if they will really have a relationship. And they will probably. Damn...

>>86678079
Fuck I loved that.

I think this is also the scene where I started to love Cottonmouth.

>>86678126
It's only weird if you let it be. Me and my friend have fucked the same woman in our group of friends. We still get on great, all around.

>>86678198
Man, that sounds disgusting. At least for me.

>>86677889
I'm so glad you have no ability to exercise creative control over this show. You almost had me at the start, but you trailed off immediately.

X Gonna Give It To Ya would have been cool, but it'd just feel like a retread of the Bring Da Ruckus scene.

>>86678198
Misty Knight isn't some woman in Luke and Danny's group of friends. She's Danny's long-term romantic partner.

People bitch about canon romances meanwhile Luke and Jessica are married in the comics, but that seems to be completely dumped here.

>>86678353
Well obviously Night Nurse 1 isn't going to stay in a relationship with any of them. Come time for Defenders, I'm sure they'll pick up where they left off.

>>86678268
And Jessica fucking the husband of the woman she killed. They are all going for drama like that or it will be just forgetten. They will still piss me of in any way.

>>86678353
Because it hasn't occurred yet. Luke has over 20 years of published stories before he even met Jessica.

>>86678410
Hope she will get killed somehow. Enough of her plot armor shit.

>>86678130
Doubt it, he had way more chemistry with Claire.

>>86678510
Fuck off. I like a qt show connector.

>>86678510
>her plot armor shit.
What?

>>86678526
After Defenders she will be no use to anything.

>>86678546
Fighting aganist Hand ninjas and not getting killed for a start. She is becoming basically Marvel's Felicitiy.

God I loved Cottonmouth so goddamn much. Actor must have adored his role.

>>86678612
>After Defenders she will be no use to anything.
She's starting to take a large interest in meta-human biology, she has a role to fill.

>>86676753
>both named Luke

God fucking damn it.

I feel like they pulled the 'Mariah was raped by her uncle' thing out of no where just to justify her killing Cottonmouth/finding a reason to get rid of Cottonmouth.

>I DIDN'T WANT IT!

What did she mean by this?

I'm really finding it hard to binge it, it's really fucking slow and boring. Cottonmouth was my favorite character and they killed him and I lost 80% of my drive to continue.

>>86678695
Then don't...derp

>>86678712
If I don't complete it, my autism will go haywire.

>>86678695
I think you will like Stryker. Thought about the same thing at the first time. But couldn't stop after watching one more episode. But damn, it was a good but hard twist.

>>86676914
There's absolutely no excuse for that POS design...

>Hammer Tech

There's a perfect excuse for that POS design...

>>86676713
When I saw Burrell, I thought "How long will it take before a Netflix Marvel show wastes another actor from The Wire?" The answer happened to be two episodes.

>>86678689

Yeah I also felt that. I didn't really care for the final episode either

>>86678353
>>86678410
I'd like to see Jessica just show up in Defenders pregnant. And because of that she's leaned up a little bit. And up until that point Claire and Luke are Happy as fuck. Then BOOM non boozing, getting her life together, slight belly bump Jess shows up. and fucks it all up.

>>86676628
Not done watching it, but the pacing really started to slow down towards the end I think. The beginning of the season was fantastic though.

I wasn't a huge fan of Diamondback. He seemed overacted to me. Mariah is kind of a flat actress. She's always just looking spaced out with a fake smile. Shades gets annoying with his shades. They seemed a bit over the top. Maybe that's what they were going for with these characters but I felt like they could've been more subdued in performance.

I really like Cottonmouth, I thought the actor was really good. Wish there'd be more of him. I felt like he was really carrying the show.

>>86678855
Jessica having a kid is what puts her off fighting crime, though.

>>86678061
So... like kryptonite?

Did we really need as many shootouts as we got? Kinda seems pointless with Cage

>>86678917
Superman is a lot more unstoppable than Luke.

>>86678943
DEATH TO ALL HOODIES

>>86678945

I don't think that's the point he was trying to make

>>86678855
I would cringe so hard if something like it happens

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>>86678908
>Jessica having a kid is what puts her off fighting crime, though.


Does anyone here really have a problem with that?

I liked it but in the end I think it suffered from the same problem Jessica Jones had. There just wasn't enough plot to justify 13 episodes. I don't really see myself giving it a rewatch

>>86678690
I really liked that line because it's ambiguous. The most obvious answer is that she really was abused and the rest of the family looked the other way until she got sent to boarding school to end it. Or she was screaming and beating the shit out of Cotton because there was truth to his statement. Maybe it lies somewhere down the middle. They don't lay out an easy answer in the show.

That's real raw shit that I wasn't expecting from a Netflix superhero show.

>>86676628
Yo, so, 5 episodes in, I've got some complaints.

Why the heck did the decide to make Rafe . a bad guy? Racism? Because that was crap. Now who's supposed to Get mad at Misty for disregarding all her cop training and instincts when she goes all Daughters of the Dragon?

Shades being white is throwing the crap out of me, because outside of being a Seagate alumnus with a sunglasses fetish, he's wholly unlike the comics version, who wanted Cage to join the Black Gang in Seagate. And who broke out and once again tried to force Cage into teaming up with him (and Comanche) because he was a friggin moron.
Cage not being a New York native is weird to me, too.

Otherwise, enjoying it so far. Action scenes are fun if total squashes, Mike Colter plays a pretty chill Luke that still pretty much works. Rackham was as much a grotesque caricature in personality as he was in the comics, even if he looks a bit less like a melted Richard Nixon with gopher teeth.

So Pop's Barber Shop is gonna be the Heroes for Hire joint?

>>86678992
I loved the Alias comics, so yeah, I do.

>>86678972
No, but it's very relevant. There's no good way to write around Superman's powers, other than "lol magic". He needs an achilles heel.

Luke isn't all powerful. He can be stopped without his own kryptonite equivalent.

>>86679061
What the actual fuck are they going to do with JJ season 2, anyway.

>>86678992
That doesn't mean it's remotely likely to happen, they wouldn't start a teamup series with one of the characters retiring.

>>86677389
I thought it was pretty obvious that Luke would return to Harlem and turn the Barber Shop into Heroes for Hire HQ

>>86679066
>There's no good way to write around Superman's powers, other than "lol magic"

But Superman has villians that can just plain kick his ass

>>86679036
>Why the heck did the decide to make Rafe . a bad guy
It was a good twist actually imo. Still race thing really makes you think.

>Shades being white is throwing the crap out of me
Actor is Puerto Rican

>>86677792
It's a miniseries with 8 episodes

>>86679074
Explore how she got her powers, more Nuke, Defenders aftermath, and Trish becoming a hero.

>>86679101

I would have preferred this. Why even send him back to prison? We all know he's just going to get out for Defenders anyway. Seems like an unnecessary hurdle they set up for themselves.

>>86679061
>I loved the Alias comics

Please go see a doctor, I think there may be something severely wrong with you.

>>86679133

>With 8 episodes

Best news I've heard all day

>>86679074
Foggy dialogues, maybe 1 or 2 cases and of course mass producing red pills

>>86679074
I think they've already basically announced that they are going into IGH, by way of the Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation in a very, very roughly adapted Power Broker story from Thing/Captain America.

>>86679140
Build up for Matt and Luke's relation

>>86679140
Yeah that was my one major problem.
They either should have just had him recover the folder after the dust settled and montage their way to him setting up the business OR just thrown in another episode.

>>86679074
I think as long as it follows its original themes of psychological/emotional abuse, it will do fine. Each Netflix series seems to have a range it goes for and tries not to overlap with the others.

Maybe season 2 follows its noir detective theme of Jessica wanting to save or redeem other abuse victims. Maybe she goes after the slave trade. That shit is dug deep in criminal circles, and is incredibly hard to dislodge.

Shades is best villain.

Nigga is smart and calm and gets shit done.

>>86679140
Because then you can have Matt or Foggy take up his defense and lead to a believable meeting of Luke Cage and Daredevil at the start of Defenders.

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>>86679294
OII, JUICY BOOOII

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>>86679131
>Actor is Puerto Rican

Still. Pale. Not really the Ghetto Cyclops he imagines himself to be in the comics.

Just watched the first three episodes. Does it get better? I'm really bored so far and the fight scenes aren't any good either.

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>>86677550
>So where does this put us in a general technology level in MCU?
The way Cage beat him in the end, seem to imply that the suit actually absorbs damage to the suit by absorbing its impact energy to power itself. And that if you let it run too long without getting hit, it powers down. This is why Cage won after getting pelted without fighting back, because the suit ran out of juice. Remember that Hammer might not be able to fully replicate the arc reactor even though his company got the tech from Whiplash.

Way too fucking slow. It was somehow slower than Jessica Jones. Needed about 3-5 less episodes.

>>86678126
Calling them Eskimos is offensive to Eskimos. Literally slang calling them raw meat lovers. They're called Inuits, not Eskimos. Calling them Eskimo's pretty much the equivalent of calling an American a Burger.

>>86677032
>The writers tried to lay on some sympathy for Cottonmouth with flashbacks, but I didn't care too much by then. The guy was constantly shown as being disrespected by his peers and really, they had every right to do so. He's a brash asshole that doesn't stand up to other Netflix villains very well.
I think it all makes sense if you interprets him as a guy would hates his job and is only doing it to protect the family legacy. He does a bad job because his heart isn't in it, he doesn't believe in his own role.

>>86678353
>but that seems to be completely dumped here.

Well, she did MURDER HIS WIFE.
In the comics, they weren't even married, and she was killed by some anonymous button man of Cottonmouth's.

BIG


FAT


POLICE

TATS

>>86676713
>The Wire cameos were great.
Do you think Omar will make an appearance? Also cast him.

>>86676628
i missed cottonmouth. he's more likable and complex than "CAAAAAAAAAAHL, MUH BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUU"

>>86677547
>Every time I heard Diamondback I was getting my hopes up.
He didn't die, and he is getting real superpowers at the end too.

>>86679453
Well yeah, I understand why, but when they're sinking JJ/Luke hard, do you really think they care about Iron Fist's comic romances?

>>86679464
>>86676713
What Wire cameos? It's been forever since The Wire and I think I missed them.

>>86679140
>Why even send him back to prison?
He is getting out soon because the files that was suppose to clear his name was recovered.

>>86679386

It's not that big of a deal. Race swaps happen all the time

>>86679475
I liked how everything went to complete shit in the underworld when Diamondback took over. Cottonmouth was the villain Harlem needed, but not the one it deserved.

>>86676713
Chibs and CIA appearances when?

>>86679492
Kima was Misty's original police captain and Burrell was Pop.

>>86677119
>Trash tier
>The method man cameo
Nah nigga you take that back, that was pure blackino

>>86679504

Yeah, so why bother?

>>86679452
No, I get that, I do. I can even respect that on a narrative level. I just couldn't bring myself to care when all his plans go to shit.

>>86678612
>After Defenders she will be no use to anything.
You NEED a healer character for anyone who doesn't have automatic healing factor. If not her, you need someone else. MCU got the Korean doctor but street level can't afford her.

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How old is she? This is her first major role so her age isn't on wikipedia

I'm thinking like 36

>>86679521
Oh shit. I didn't recognize them.
Kima looks a lot more asian now.

>>86679541
There's literally magic healing machines in the MCU that are strictly for use by the avengers. How can anyone claim they aren't tremendous assholes?

>>86679535
As was mentioned multiple times in this thread, it's a good way to segway into him meeting Matt Murdock for Defenders. He's gonna need a lawyer.

Stokes shot that unfunny cop!

>>86679505
It's not really anger in this case. Just, it's really not the same guy, even trimmed down to a more MCU type version without the deathbeam glasses.

>>86679535
>Yeah, so why bother?
Because we need Cage finally turning himself in for real. To have him trust the system will free him. The show is very careful to balance both sides, in that there ius a time to run away from the law for the greater good, but also a time to follow the law and try to trust that other people will protect you. What matters is showing Cage having at least some trust.

>no worldstar shoutout

ruined the final fight

>>86679579
Matt Murdock's a lawyer?

A though he was like, an underground cage fighter or something that worked out of Foggy Nelson's law office.

>>86676628

cottonmouth should have never been killed. diamondhead was really jarring as a switch. nigga sounded like the candyman

>>86679575
>There's literally magic healing machines in the MCU that are strictly for use by the avengers. How can anyone claim they aren't tremendous assholes?
Rich people play by different rules, anon. Remember the 3 million dollars that started the Luke Cage plot? Tony Stark probably pay that much to refuel his laser blasters. So much anger over so little money, because for street level people it is a lot.

>>86679619
Same actor.

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>>86679458

Why Rafe became dirty cop just for money? He was doing literally nothing with that money. I can get he dragged once and couldn't get out thing but he literally died for 100 grands that he wanted.

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post yfw Cottonmouth pulled out the rocket launcher

>>86679639
>Why Rafe became dirty cop just for money? He was doing literally nothing with that money. I can get he dragged once and couldn't get out thing but he literally died for 100 grands that he wanted.
He lost his child because of a mistake, and probably became self destructive after that. The hints suggest he WAS clean once, and that he wasn't living a good life these days.

>>86679633

lol no they aren't.

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>mfw harlem niggas

>>86679593
>What matters is showing Cage having at least some trust.

lol no
the point of it is that he goes through the system and gets exonerated so he can finally stop hiding from the authorities and start doing hero shit openly

>>86679639

his jive talking, it reminded me of anthony michael hall in weird science for some reason.

>>86679636
oh my lord, I just wanna suck suck suck

>NIGGA, I am your brother
Into the trash he goes.

>>86679639
I think he just stopped giving a shit about the system. Or maybe he was skimming before his son died and afterwards it accelerated his spiral.

>>86679703
>the point of it is that he goes through the system and gets exonerated so he can finally stop hiding from the authorities and start doing hero shit openly
That too, but the point here is that he stopped trying to escape in the mean time. If they had to lock him back up while he was kicking and screaming, it would have been a different message.

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>>86679727
>implying that wasn't one of the best scenes

they even did a black dynamite DUN DUNNNNNN

>>86679700
>>mfw harlem niggas
As someone who is on the other side of the planet from the Americas, I do note that I struggle to understand 80% of the Harlem cultural references. It is almost an alien world to me.

>>86679807
Are you Japanese or Chinese?

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Show lost a lot of steam after Cottonmouth died. I felt like he was kind of carrying the show up to that point. Thank the gods Shades is still alive at least. Black Mariah was okay, but lacked the fire that Mama Mabel had in the flashbacks that made her so scary. Now Diamond back was just awful. Didn't like him at all. And that suit... Just... Why?

Misty's story line got really tiresome after her partner died. Rafe turned out to be a more interesting character.

Luke Cage turned out the way I expected him to turn out given today's political climate. Bland, boring and altruistic with very little in the way of flaws.

Overall I gave the show a C.

>>86679831
>And that suit... Just... Why?
Read a comic

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>>86679780
Fool please I was referring to how he literally shot Luke into the garbage truck.

I was at a loss when Cottonmouth bit the dust and expected to lose interest. But then Diamondback shows up firing fucking Boltor rounds and doing backflips and literally acting like a southern black DIO? God damn.

>>86679824
>Are you Japanese or Chinese?
Asian, but any more detailed than that is pointless anyway. Basically I have never been to Harlem, and Harlem slang is barely English to my ears. It is clearly a show made for a very specific audience and I don't have a problem with that.

>>86679831

With how Diamondback acted, i think the suit was perfect for him. He looked as batshit insane as he acted.

The series was great, and while it did lose luster after Cottonmouth died, i'd still say it beat out the lull Elektra brought to Daredevil.

>>86679858
....So, are you Japanese or Chinese?

>>86679878

CHINESE

>cracking sounds

OR JAPANESE

>>86679850
Yeah people keep saying the show went to shit after episode 8, but Diamondback was the most entertaining villain that I've seen in a marvel show or movie.
He's peak blaxploitation and I fucking love it.

>>86677630
They shot a missile at him, burning him clearly doesn't work

idk why thy didn't try the others but it's not like you can force a superstrong black dude into the water when normal niggas won't even bother

>>86679877
>reflexly picking up phones kills you
still makes me kek and sad at the same time. Hope Juicy will have a better ending.

>>86679846

The old 'if the comics did it then it's okay' meme

It didn't fit the vibe of the show and you know it. Look at me in my super absorption suit with my entire lower face exposed. Only Batman can pull that off.

>>86679858
I'm an ausfag and I understood it fine.

>>86679891
>CHINESE
>>cracking sounds
>OR JAPANESE
I am amused, because the only reason I didn't answer is because my reply would be complicated. (No , I an not mixed or anything.)

>>86679931
Doesn't count. Australians are world famous for their exceptional ability to quickly learn and understand new things.

>>86679945
It's from King of the Hill brah

C-Cottonmouth is gonna become a zombie and come back in control r-right? They have the means in DD

>>86679897
The actor they got was fantastic, I remember him from Boardwalk Empire and he embraces the hammy shit. It was refreshing as hell and I've always been a fan of gritty stuff getting an outlandish character tossed in.

>>86679858
Like what? Method Man is a famous rapper. Malcolm X, MLK and Trayvon Martin are googlable. What else was so hard to get that you couldn't pick up meaning from context?

>>86680046
He was originally a one episode character on Boardwalk, but the producers loved his performance so they gave him a reoccurring role.

>>86678024
>would turn Pop's into a clinic.
I want it to be his Hero for Hire place of business.
Too much hinting at what to do with it, and all those people willing to pay.

>>86679976
>Cottonmouth comes back as a Hand ninja
Oh God, I would pay for this. Well... extra pay for this besides my Netflix account.

>>86679976
>C-Cottonmouth is gonna become a zombie and come back in control r-right? They have the means in DD
But the thing is he isn't a willing villain. So if he doesn't have to take care of his family's legacy anymore he would have fucked off. And if you take over his mind as well then he doesn't have much to offer as a zombie.

>>86677550
I feel like that is a halfway, if even that, towards the Iron Man suits that they've been making since Iron Man 2.

>>86679595
Netflix really should put out a short clip of someone's cell phone video of the Cage/Diamondback fight with dudes yelling out Worldstar and roasting.

>>86679636
So we have Agent Tittymonster, Intern Tittymonster and Detective Tittymonster.

Will the MCU ever stop delivering?

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Cast him.

webm of mistys ass when luke is feeling her up on the wall pls

>>86680368
Tombstone

>>86680368
Bushmaster.

>>86680351
Intern Tittymonster?

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>>86679726
So did she

>>86680499
Darcy in Thor.

>>86678001
It's the bond that can never be broken, anon. They will be wiener cousins.

>>86676628
How many part with "le evil white guy" meme are there? I know, I shouldn't ask this, but I basically have to. I really like Luke Cage sinc e his 70's series, I just not like this modern trend. Especially since I'm not even american and those shit doesn't hapen in italy.

>>86680669
>How many part with "le evil white guy" meme are there?
There's exactly one white bad guy and he isn't in it very much and is a minor character overall.

>>86680691
thank you, this really relieves me. You don't now how much cringy this shit is,especialy for a foreigner eye.

>>86679140
>hero faces his trouble instead of running. Forward always
>believable and organic meeting with the devil of Hell's Kitchen
>able to return to Harlem and be at peace

Character development is important too.

whats with all the snake names anyways?
is it because everyone is black and snake names refer to bbc?

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>>86680769
>is it because everyone is black and snake names refer to bbc?

My dude don't start that shit just don't i'm tired of hearing about bbc.

>>86679918
He lost his fucking mind and went batshit. Makes sense he'd dress like a retard.

>>86680769
Marvel in the 60's-70's was obsessed as fuck with snakes for some reason.

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>>86680769
building up to the Serpent Society of evil capitalists

Had some issues with it

>Cottonmouth should of been in it longer
>that overly forced Claire/Cage relationship
>misty didn't lose her arm
>no Matt Murdoch cameo yet teased it multiple times
>No JJ cameo
>no Danny Rand cameo
>no Iron Fist Trailer at the end

Other than those things, pretty damn good show. Good effects. Didnt look cheap like JJ, that Methodman cameo was GOAT. I felt Mike Coilter's acting was a Bit cheesy and played on, but it's fine.

I'd go DD>LC>JJ

Anyone find any dope Easter eggs?

The fight scenes were mediocre.

The super powered ones were bad and then there was the whole unpowered mess in episode 4.

I was certain a Judas bullet was going to blow off Misty's arm.

Defenders gonna own comic-con next here. You think they'll have all 4 of them on stage? I'd lose my shit if they got DD and iron fist in full outfits. Maybe even have Jon Bernthal show up

>>86680980
I thought the same. Thought it was retarded she didn't lose the arm yet..

>>86680966
>Didnt look cheap like JJ
I would agree if not for that theater scene. But I understand why it had to all be CGI, can't have people brawling in a heritage listed building.

>>86676628
4 episodes in. Good so far but not Daredevil good.
I still like it alot though.
Lacks that gritty feeling that Daredevil had, this is really missing bad from the show.
The one action scene where Luke Cage raids that building where Cottonmouth was keeping his money, was very disappointing, embarassing even.
And oh my god, that shitty music in every fucking episode. Especially episodes 2 and 3, the songs and performers were so bad I had to mute them. This is fucking rape, my ears were being raped.
The first episode's song was ok, I guess, it was softer but I hope it doesn't go on like that all through the series.

Also one more thing. I kinda remember Scarfe being a good guy in the comics. Why did he turn bad there?
Why isn't Mariah obese? Why doesn't Cottonmouth have sharp teeth? I like Cottonmouth as he's portrayed in the show but he's just not the same guy.
Finally, Misty Knight is ugly as fuck but that's ok since I'm not into black women anyway.

So far I rate the show 6/10. I would have given it a 7, which is what I think it deserves if not for the shitty music.

Daredevil > Jessica Jones > Luke Cage > shit > Agents of SHIELD

>>86676690
this was the blaxploitationest and my favorite moment of the show

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>>86679636
>>86680506
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>86679074
>Figuring out what IGH is
>powered people like D-Man being used for illegal UCWF fights
>Power Broker, Karlin Malus, Superia
>IGH stuff leaking to black market like in Mattie Franklin/MGH storyline
>Jonathan Drew worked for IGH and his daughter was experimented on
>Nuke goes rogue like in Born Again
>Trish gets powered up.

>>86681035
>shitty music
It's probably the only with any good music. I agree it's not as good as daredevil though.. Then again nothing can reach daredevil's level.

>>86681064
Don't misunderstand, the soundtrack is great.
I mean those songs that were being performed at the Harlem Paradise, these were bad.
That Tina Turner and James Brown wanna be's.
Saadiq in the first episode, is an ok artist though, not my thing but he's not bad like those other two were.

Honestly the Black pride stuff is just shit.

People don't talk about shit like that the way they did in the show. It feels so utterly artificial and forced it was just hard to watch.

Aside from that the way they handled super strength varied from shit to decent and the episode 4 big fight scene was just shit.

>>86681080
What was that king fu poster Claire was looking at on the pole at the end? It's clearly a Iron Fist Easter egg, but I couldn't see what it exactly was or means

>>86681080
I might not like Long Live the Chief, but it sure as fuck fit Cottonmouth's mental state at the time

>>86681102
I haven't seen Claire yet in.
I think she first appears in the 5th episode, which I'm gonna watch tonight.

>>86681102
It's for Colleen Wing's class

>>86681100
As a black person i found the whole thing pretty genuine and close to real life.

>>86681102
>"a flier for Colleen Wing's martial arts class"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Cage_%28TV_series%29#Marvel_Cinematic_Universe_tie-ins

The series was okay. So far it's
DD s1 > DD s2 > LC > JJ

>>86681102
>goes to a random class
>meets a guy with yet ANOTHER uncanny power
>"do you guys stalk me?!"

>>86681142
Crossing over with MCU films and AoS.
God, I sure hope not.
Netflix TV series is the only good thing about Marvel now.
The films are fun but very disneyfied, AoS is crap; the Netflix series don't just fit in.

So Dany is getting Luke's sloppy second for Iron Fist?

>>86677561
I felt like the music was a strong point in this series.

>>86681080
>That Tina Turner and James Brown wanna be's.
the james brown wannabe was great
had to go to tunefind and find the song when it came on

>>86681035
>Finally, Misty Knight is ugly as fuck

I've had the reply window open for the last 5 minutes because I don't know how to reply to this. Jesus.

Shades was such a cool character in absolutely the corniest way. At several points during the show I thought " he's way too cool".

What makes Shades so cool? Is it the shades?

>>86681335
Shades was the worst.
That forced whispery voice.
Just talk normal, don't channel Bale in Dark Knight.

>>86681335
It's the way he stays calm and doesn't fuck up, and the whole 'gangster consultant' thing was a neat hook.

I was glad he did in Zip and those goons, thought he was done for a second.

>>86681353
> hating on based shades

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>>86681047

>>86681335
Shades knew how to stay calm and smart no matter what happened and called out Cottonmouth and Diamondback when they did dumbass shit.

>>86681100
It honestly was way more genuine than I thought it would be. Mainly cause it showed both sides issues in a realistic way and how easily it is for someone control them to follow their own agenda. And just like in real life it will be ignored cause people are too afraid of feeling stupid

>>86681080
yfw you realized the James Brown wannabe is the guy who does the singing voice for Krampus on AD!

>>86681335
The face and expressions. he's likeable, but you also want to punch his smug smile in.
he's handsome but also looks sly and ferocious and sadisic. Even though he's not sadistic. He's also calm and enjoys the fucking mess he's solving.
Also, and pardon me for saying, but it fist : his glasses thing was fucking swagg.

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>>86681589
>mfw Zip tried to steal his glasses thing

I feel like 13 episodes is too long for most of these Marvel shows. You end up with too much wheel spinning and a bunch of weirdly emphasised story beats that end up less important than they've been made out to be.
I don't know if it's a studio mandate, but most of the netflix series could probably have been condensed to 6-10 episodes without really losing any of the stuff that actually makes it work.

Im a noob to all things Luke Cage so I thought Shades had some sort of power that when people look into his eyes he can control them. It seemed that way after he talked to Mariah then she did what he wanted.

>>86681661
I was expecting Shades to have a power too from having also been in the same prison that gave Luke his powers.

The show had so many instances where a character seemed they were going to do something, then just didn't and it became really jarring.

>Luke deciding to skip town then immediately just going vigilante
>Luke deciding to hit Cottonmouth's interests instead of him personally, but then going to confront him personally like 10 minutes later
>Mariah suggesting that Cottonmouth drown or poison Luke, then just going for super bullets
>Cottonmouth trying to get Luke to work for him then going back to trying to kill him
>Mariah wanting to cut for legitimate politics then just going for crime then back to politics, then to the club/crime
>Misty defending Luke then trying to pin Luke then saying he's innocent and then trying to arrest him again then trying to prove his innocence
>Diamondback trying to kill Luke, then trying to ruin Luke's life then trying to frame him, then trying to kill him again

It was so hard to follow the plot, everyone kept changing their plans after the smallest setback or new piece of information. Even the way the show was presented kept changing. Sometimes it was cheesy blaxploitation fun. Other times it was The Wire with superpowers.

So Seagate is where Kilgraves parents did their experiments?

>>86681640
Luke Cage felt alright. I didn't feel any plots felt like they went nowhere or added nothing unlike JJ with the we caught him, and then he escaped so we need to catch him again and the yes this plot was by us who hate you for reasons unrelated to the main plot and have no connection to the villain.

>>86676628
3 eps in, so far the show is meh but I like how it has that sweet Christmas vibe. I also like how little white people there are around so people are not blaming everything on them

>>86681661
In the comics, his shades gave him Cyclops-powers.

is misty a shit cop?

>>86681689
I'm not sure about that, but it seems they, Burstein and Reva all worked for/with IGH, whatever it is.

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I wasn't sold on it until this moment. That abrupt cut to Cottonmouth appearing, in person, *with a bazooka*, with that fucking music playing, and then Cage's reaction combined to make me absolutely lose my shit for a minute.

A lot of the show seems amateur so far. Maybe that's on purpose, what with the retro blaxploitation vibe they're going for. But that moment was perfect.

I like how this is one of the show that doesn't try to shove some gay agenda down my throat. Good job.

>>86681864
>DA SYSTEM DONT WORK
bitch you the one who got the girl hidden and didn't tell anyobdy anything and you didn't work with the system in the first place. Don't go around blaming anybody but yourself.

She's got the drive and good intentions but she's bad at this.

>>86681035
>I kinda remember Scarfe being a good guy in the comics. Why did he turn bad there?
You haven't kept up with him, have you?

Just finished ep 2. Got some mad appreciation for Turk.

Dude just shows up, does what he needs to, moves on, and survives.

No drama with turk, he gets kidnapped by the hand, he moves on, walks in on an awkward murder and he moves on.

Turk just moves forward.

>>86681895
Yeah, she's pretty good at figuring out what went down as long as she's looking for it, but she's horrible at actually dealing with situations or working with people. She makes so many wrong decisions

>>86681910
>Turk just moves forward.
never backward

>>86681895
>>86681917
This could be fixed by her taking a backseat to her partner but her intensity won't allow it. He is kind of like jessica jones when it comes to doing shit, She has to be the one to do it, one at the heart of things.

>>86681910
True, He would be based if he did not look like a strung out methhead with a wispy beard.With a good makeover he would be a baller

>>86681874
Yeah, by far the best moment in the show. They made a mistake killing Cottonmouth.

>>86681944
I think that's the whole point. He's not some suave criminal dude, he's just a freelancer who's still doing his shit while the rest are dropping like flies.

>>86681874
The show did have some pretty good moments springing from fantastic usage of music.

The opening of episode 5 where Cottonmouth is watching Jidenna perform Long Live the Chief was balla as fuck.

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>>86681980
you could be a freelancer but still look okish. would you think this guy was based, even if his actions were

>>86682011
Are you seriously comparing him to an obese guy in a motorized wheelchair?
Turk is lean and mean.

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>>86682028
>Are you seriously comparing him to an obese guy in a motorized wheelchair?
No, do you need me to spell it out, the principle is the same. that fat fuck could be walter white but you would not give a shit because he does not put in any effort. Turk is not poor so his look is more for blending in/ staying alive but staying alive is not conclusive to being classically based

>>86676713
>Thoughts:
>Shades was a badass. I liked Juice a lot more than I thought I would and I'm glad he survived.
That was a big surprise to me, I watched all of sons of anarchy for the first time around 8 months ago so all I saw for the longest time was the weak willed juice from the end of the series and wasn't expecting such a cool and collected character

>Cottonmouth really grew on me and I wish he'd been the overall antagonist.
>Black Mariah really grew on me too. I'm looking forward to seeing her grow into the queenpin next season.
Agree with both of these, I can't wait to see what she does but at the same time I which Cottonmouth didn't collapse on himself by focusing on cage. He could have just continued his plans while considering Luke a great threat but couldn't let go.

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anyone got a name?I don't want to go one by one on imdb

Up to episode 10

I feel the gunshot wound problem dragged on for too long, he was like 2-3 episodes going around being wounded[/spoiler[

When I first saw misty k. I was thinking they could get someone prettier. But then I saw her naked, and boy I whould kill someone just so could touch her. Oh my, she is my waifu now.

And I think I enjoyed Luke Cage more than Daredevil, Im surprised.

At first I thought they would milk Misty losing her arm for some heavy pathos, maybe have her trapped by it and she cuts it off to go help someone.

But now I feel like it will be swift and out of nowhere, she'll be talking to someone and Razor Fist will suddenly pop up and just chop it off.

>>86682567
Too bad she's not gonna be in Iron Fist to get WHITED

http://www.cbr.com/update-misty-knight-not-appearing-on-iron-fist/

>>86682723
Nah, she'll probably rush in somewhere and suddenly encounter a bomb that blows her arm off or something

>>86682751
Ah for fucks sake.

>>86682751
She will be in Defenders for that though.

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>>86681054
>UCWF
>Grapplers cameo
>no Screaming Mimi

Calling it.

How long does it take to drive from NY to Georgia?

>>86676628
Diamondback was basically
>It was me, Luke! Me!
>I am the author of all your pain!

>https://theringer.com/luke-cage-black-conservative-f5be622daf67

>Cage, Stokes, Dillard, and Pop are all nostalgic for an older, respectable Harlem, where, in Stokes’s recollection, “people walked old ladies across the street.” This sentimentalism is so pervasive, and so bipartisan, that the beef between Cage and Stokes gets rather ambiguous. Theoretically, Cage does battle with Stokes and Dillard to determine the future of Harlem, but Cage doesn’t seem to believe in anything that’s more or less honorable than Stokes’s simple plan to keep his money clean and his nightclub humming. Between Pop’s swear jar and Cage’s pat distaste for “that word,” these characters are largely defined by bits of trivial repression that Coker drives home with more gusto than he does any plotline.

>Cage dates himself with stale concerns: if black people should say “nigga,” whether or not tailored clothing is the measure of a man’s self-respect, and so on. Which explains, perhaps, why Luke Cage feels less like Jessica Jones or Daredevil and more like Shaft—but with none of the humor or charm that Richard Roundtree brought to that role in the 1970s. On his own, Cage is a reclusive killjoy who is astoundingly slow to solve or discover anything. He’s a big, buff, invincible disappointment. Any other uptown native might’ve been quicker to discover that Harlem’s greater, untouchable menace is the NYPD. But what, Luke Cage wonders, about black-on-black crime?

Luke Cage is literally "Pull Your Damn Pants Up: The Show."

>>86682885

COME OUT TO PLAYAAAAY

>>86682865
Good.

>>86682875
Around half a day just generally from state to state.
Harlem is on the edge of NY, but Seagate is in Savannah and Savannah is on the coast.

Claire made a joke about 18 hours but I assume that was with traffic and stops for gas and food.

>>86682723
she will lose it in a car crash

I knew cheeko was going to be strangled the second I saw the cop undoing his tie, even before shit got ominous. It was going to be gay sex or death

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>this scene

AW SHIT NIGGA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD1eaRDY-q4

I was super excited to see Charles Bradley in ep3, really hope they bring him back again such a massively underrated soul singer.

>>86676628
How many evil white cops does cage kill?

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>"I hear cuban coffee is especially robust"
>Claire doesn't respond with "well I like my coffee black"

>>86683003
I knew it as soon as the cop asked Misty if she was coming to meet with Chico. When a cop delivers that line to their partner, you know they're going to kill the witness.

>>86682933
I think the biggest problem of the show was that everyone's opposition to each other seemed so artificial. No one really had a clearly defined motive. Did Luke want to set an example to the people of Harlem, or did he just want to avenge Pop? Did Cottonmouth want to rule the entire underworld or just control his club (kinda vascillated on that and he died before it was expanded on ). What the hell did Shades even want? Diamondback came the fuck out of nowhere and suddenly was all up in Luke's shit and it took ages for the show to explain why.

Rather than people going up against each other like in DD or even in JJ, all the characters in Luke Cage just seem to float around in Harlem and occasionally bump into each other then decide to fight.

>"They jacked me for my tips!"
>"I'm on it."
>"I work hard for that money!"
>"I'M ON IT."

o lord i am laffin

>>86683122
zero

>>86683122
1

Did Reva love him?

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>>86677889
>The music was shit
Nigger the music was the best part. Your post is so bad I feel like it might be bait, guess you hooked me good.

This is straight up a terrible adaption of Power Man and Iron Fist is going to be even worse.

Why bother telling a story about these characters if you're just going to disregard their personalities and the characteristics of the worlds they exist in?

This Luke Cage as an individual person was such a weak blank slate that was deprived of his most unique and definitive characteristics

>>86683253
>implying anyone reads luke cage
it was fun and interesting get the stick out of your ass

>>86683286
It wasn't that fun or interesting, it was just wasted potential of a good character

>>86683120
Thanks m8, was about to look for it.

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My big black dick will have to wait, Rosario Dawson.

>>86683253
As long as Iron Fist has a white dude doing martial arts, I'm happy

>>86677889
putting Bohemian Rhapsody in a show may as well be a death kiss. its like putting pizza in a soup

>>86682885
>helicopter noises

>>86683253
I think it just has more to do with Mike Coltor just being a bland actor desu. He's like a blank template with no personality & it bleeds into the character.
I just kept imagining, how much better it would';ve been if they would've gotten someone like Michael Jai or someone else instead.

>>86678353
Look, FUCK that shit ok? JJ and Luke sucks. Fuck it.

>>86683156
>I didn't see SHIT

>>86683253
>>86683346
I liked the actor, I think he was good overall and was very good at switching between serious and fun. it had hints of comic book personality but I think going full comic book would have been very over the top, that may fly in the movies but not in the shows

>>86683190
I think she did towards the end. She really cared about saving him and said he changed her.

>>86678353
>romances
that is stretching it. there is nothing romantic about how they end up together, it happens a lot in real life but it sure as hell is not romance

>>86683327
>we'll buy coffee on the way
>IT AINT THE SAME

>>86677119
Who are these faggots who hate night nurse??

>>86683438
I think the Luke Cage people wanted was what actors aren't willing to do-- the only reason Mike Colter was even willing to do the role was because the director promised him that he wasn't going to be the classic Luke.

>>86683156
>Where's Les Paul?

>>86683482
mary sue tier

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>>86677119
>he didn't like the method man cameo

I liked the show as a whole, but three things really jarred me. Apologies in advance for the tl'dr.

One, Diamondback. I know nothing about the comics, but it was clear Diamondback was someone big and would take over as the big bad, considering how they namedropped him from the start. I was actually expecting Shades to be Diamondback all along, considering how he was around from the start and came over as the most competent person in the show. I assumed they wouldn't introduce the big bad this late in the show, but they did. He came out of nowhere, his backstory got dumped on us spread over the remainder of the show and he did nothing but stupidity after stupidity all the way to the end. And would have gotten away with it all if he didn't decide to show up to have a slugging match with Cage in the last episode. Also, I can't get over the fact that people had him at gunpoint twice and all he had to do was pull out twin pistols and start unloading to get out without a single scratch on him.

Two, the police. They couldn't make up their mind on whether they were competent or not. One moment, half of them are corrupt and working for Cottonmouth, with Misty as the sole good, competent cop. Then the new commissioner arrives, as she comes over as a super shady turbobitch. Meanwhile Misty is slowly slipping off the deep end and makes dumb mistake after dumb mistake. When Diamondback kills a cop while hollering I'M LUKE CAGE noone but Misty doubts it for a single second. Then the hostage situation happens and every single cop on the scene, barring the SWAT Team, is aware of the fact that shit doesn't make sense and do their best to prevent the situation from escalating, showing a terrifying amount of logic I'm not used to seeing from cops in a superhero show. Then they go back to being terribly incompetent, though every part of that can be chalked up to Misty "vigilantism is bad and I support the system except when I don't want to" Knight.

Cont'd.

>>86683525
And then we get to my third beef. The big showdown at the club should've been the finale. Luke recovered from the gunshot and realized his connection with Diamondback. Misty realizes Diamondback killed the cop from the traffic cam and succesfully tracked him down. Claire finds the decisive witness they need to exonorate Luke from killing Cottonmouth. Every hostage at the bar heard Diamondback and Shades loudly discuss how they're gonna frame Cage for the entire situation and saw the thugs open fire on him. The building is surrounded by the police so noone should be able to get out.

But what happens? Diamondback takes a convenient side exit noone is watching and drives away into the sunset with noone raising as much of an eyebrow. Misty promptly forgets she has a facial recognition scan with positive ID on the cop killer. The decisive witness leaves, is picked up again, dropped off anywhere but the police station or a witness protection program and promptly killed. All so we can have a second showdown that's far weaker than the club showdown.

Don't get me wrong, in the end I loved the show but I just love ranting about plot holes.

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>>86677057
do you really expect mr fish in a "realistic fantasy" like mcu? just forget it, not gonna happen
same reason we got "you look like a damn fool" moment. felt like I was watching x-men 2000 for a moment

>>86680966
>should of
Your mother """should of""" had that abortion.

>>86676628
It lacked a good villain, they all seemed rather incompetent next to Shades the henchman.

>>86683714
Yes, yes I do. It wouldn't be hard to adapt in an extremely cool and interesting if you were a creative writer who actually liked Power Man as a character and the world he exists in.

Ultimately, that mentality absurd. Don't try to tell stories about eccentric, colorful fantasy based superheroes if you don't like fantasy based stories. If you look at classic Power Man and aren't creatively inspired by the outlandish style and bizarre landscape he exists in, go tell a different story.

How do you even develop this mentality?

>>86683802
"Don't tell stories if you don't like the classics." is what I got from this.

>>86677067
If juice went to jail, maybe he would meet hammer and the mandarinif the 20 rings left him there and he would be the new hammer tech connection

>>86679918
>with my entire lower face exposed
it's a mcu "no helmet" policy. can't have actor's faces covered with helmet.

Some guy somewhere said that they had "Bring Da Ruckus" censored on the lyrics.

I'm watching it again now and it's not cesored here.

Is this a region thing? I'm in Europe.

>>86677547
You realize that the Diamondback of the Luke Cage comics isn't even related to the Serpent Society right?

>>86680669
they reference trayvon for no damn fucking reason

yeah, that's a great idea. put a killing of some black dude into a show about a guy with superstrength and unbreakable skin

>>86683840
Yeah, you shouldn't tell a story that is a continuation of a classic story if you aren't entirely inspired creatively by the classic story. Tell a different story that isn't based on something that you're just going to mock and disregard. Why tell a Luke Cage story if you don't like Power Man and are just going to make him into a different character?

>>86677714
Whole shoe, I was wondering about Colleen wing.

Then I see her name on the poster. A bit too on the nose on how night. Horse is going to get involved in that world but I'll take it

>>86678353
Luke and Claire were a thing long before Jessica was even a fucking character

This show is impossible to watch while being a europoor

Like, literally. Every fucking episode, they reference some shit from black history, harlem history or ny history. How the fuck I am supposed to know that. Literally using google every 5 seconds.

I get it. Books. Famous politicians. Artists. I get. Harlem is a place where some famous people were born. Once was enough

>>86682933
The word nigger is banned in New York! He is simply being a good law abiding citizen.

>>86683931
People forget that all these characters have to fit in a more 'realistic', modern world that is the MCU. How exactly would the classic Cage fit into that narrative? That's reason the Director made fun of the Power Man costume, because it looks down right silly in this day and age.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, though.

>>86683802
>>86683931
look, I'm with you. But it was super obvious it was gonna be as realistic and gritty as possible. Mike Colter said he was not interested in the project originally because he thought he was gonna be wearing his 70s original clothes, doing some Blaxploitation goofy shit but then the showrunners told that's not they were doing. Until Doctor Strange happened, mcu was fucking afraid of using the word "magic". We still don't know if there is even a magic in doc strange. We have to wait and see.

BRING THE MOTHERFUCKING RUCKUS

>>86683958
>How the fuck I am supposed to know that?
It's general knowledge, even in Europe you moron.

when they shot misty knight in arm I thought they would amputate her arm and give her the bionic arm but then I realized "wait I'm watching mcu, that's not gonna happen" and I was right.

But then why set it up if it's not gonna happen. What was the point?

>all this talk of Serpent Society in this thread
Read some fucking comics guys. These are completely different characters, that just so happen to be called Coppermouth and Diamondback. No relation to the Serpent Society whatsoever.

>The big green guy
>The dude with the hammer

Why the FUCK do theu do this?

>>86677389
What I want is the police to try them out on him, and he finds that either the second acid bath gave him skin twice as hard, or the judas bullets don't do shit unless they're full power.

either one would be satisfactory

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>>86684006
>>86684010
This entire notion of "realism" is actually just straight up ridiculous, and isn't even what "realism" in artistic expression actually is. You know that right? Realism isn't the act of reducing art and story telling into the realm of mundane commonality, realism describes the act of expressing a creative artistic vision with a realistic aesthetic style, even if it's something that isn't part of a mundane reality. This painting of Apollo slaying Python at Delphi is an example of Realism in art, not this show.

They aren't mocking classic Power Man because classic Power Man is genuinely too absurd for modern audiences. He isn't. They're doing it because these shows are based off of the Bendis take on these characters, which only ever sought to subvert and mock them.

>>86683958
Yeah it's almost like it's a show about Harlem or something.

Crazy.

>>86679409
I really hope Hammer comes back in the MCU. He was a really funny villain and I felt was a great foil to RDJ's Stark

>>86684041
general knowledge about some pappy mason, david dinkins, moynihan, cross bronx expressway? yeah right. very famous all around europe.
>>86684193
you watch narcos and they fucking explain who the person is, what he did. you don't get that in luke cage. just namedropping.

>>86684070
>What was the point
So a character could say "You could have lost your arm!" and then wink at the camera.

>>86676628
Never backward. Always forward. Forward. Always.

;-;

>>86684219
Because it's really not crucial to the plot.

>>86681005
she'll probably still lose it, she completely ignored Claire and the other medical people's talk about not pushing it.

But they probably didn't do it yet because who's gonna make it? Stark doesn't know about the street level stuff yet. the only other possibilities are

>SHIELD makes her one; crossover of some sort
>She gets the tech from some criminal, maybe it's Hammer tech
>Stiltman makes it for her

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>>86684166
Like I said, I want mcu and others to embrace the comic. But that's not going to happen, sadly. Like, you have the "snyder filter". Wonder Woman costume is grey enough, AND THEY STILL HAVE TO USE THE FILTER to make it even more grayer. Studios are so afraid of colors these days. Same reason you don't have the Thor Helmet in the thor films. First, studios and people consider that "goofy" and the second, actors are vain as fuck. Just look at pic related. Steve is not wearing his helmet, thor, tony, hawkeye is not wearing a mask, NOT EVEN FUCKING GOGGLES. you could say that is just for the promotion, but that's what basically happens in every film. They just have to show the face. Dredd only did that. Carl Urban had helmet on him THE ENTIRE TIME. And look what happened. It flopped. Really fucking sad.

Look at luke cage. Claire says "you're so cheesy" like 100 times throughout the show even though they're just talking. they are so afraid to use anything comic booky it's hilarious.