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Is there any energy left in the cape industry for creating, establishing, and popularizing whole new superheroes in their own self-contained series, instead of just rebooting old ones?
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There isn't any energy left in the entertainment industry on the whole.
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Would be difficult to come up with something original.
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At this point I'm half expecting fuckers to start rebooting songs next.
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>>86656487
Yes. And you will get brutally sued out of existence by the big guys for even TRYING.

Thank your IP overlords.
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>>86656512
That's called a cover
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>>86656622
How would you get sued for making a superhero story?
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Funny how Japanese manga industry doesn't seem to have any problems with starting new series and ending old series all the time, even the popular ones.

Sure, a lot of them follow similar clichés, but the repeated permutations and the greater turnover allow more room for creativity, a variety of spins, and more malleability in direction. The really crap stuff doesn't survive and gets cancelled while the good stuff continues. Instead of publishers endlessly putting new writers on old properties, IPs end when the creators decide to end them and move on to creating new things.
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>>86656685
Wrong, all manga is the same, underdog main character wins by the power of friendship, the end.
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>>86656672

Doesn't Marvel straight up own the word "superhero"?
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>>86656672
You don't get sued unless you completely rip off a superhero. For example giving your hero spider powers would get you sued. But making an original universe with characters is fine. An example of a recent new superhero series is the manga My Hero Academia.
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>>86656733

Marvel and DC both own the word "superhero" but that doesn't really mean jack because they don't go after every publisher who uses the word.
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>>86656705
Saitama's never won through the power of friendship
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>>86656743
>Saitama
>Underdog

The entire point of the series is that he is the strongest.
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>>86656487
Why make something new when you can just rehash or """"reimagine"""" something old for equal or superior profit?

Keep in mind that Marvel's a business, thus they'll always go for the route of greatest profitability, lowest risk AND lowest effort. Inventing something from scratch is both risky and harder than just rehashing the same roster of heroes over and over and making "legacy characters" whenever you want to seem "fresh and new", like teenage shapeshifting Ms. Marvel, teenage car driving Ghost Rider, black Spider-Man, woman Thor, etc.
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>>86656743
The exception that proves the rule, retard. Fucking idiot. Moron. Chemically castrate yourself for being so god damn mother fucking STUPID YOU FUCKING IDIOT DIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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>>86656705
Oh, and Zatch/Gash Bell did the power of freindship bit very well.
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>>86656685
they can't seem to end Naruto or DBZ
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>>86656685
Manga have a clear start and end to the story. That is the difference. This is the superior format and comics are starting to catch on
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>>86656705
Do you only watch the anime toonami plays? Actually you proabaly dont even watch that much because tonami plays several animes that dont follow this.
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>>86656856
capes=/=comics
Even capes aren't supposed to be read as decade long linear stories. Only characterfags or casuals do it,
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>>86656838
Dragonball's manga ended a long time ago, Super is just an anime.

Naruto's current incarnation is more like Batman Beyond than a continuation of Batman.
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There are thousands of Independent superheroes out right now
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>>86656876
Shut up, Bendis.
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>>86656512
Remixes. Covers, the fact that half the music that comes out has the same tone and beat.
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>>86656705
Times are a changing, it's not about power of friendship anymore it's now about being reincarnated into a JRPG world with cheat skills.
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>>86656952
>Le random response
Reddit is that way.
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If you want independent good fresh characters and story. Read invincible.
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>>86656931
Yeah, but nothing from any major publishers.
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>>86656685
Because the nip creators of today don't have creators integrety.
They do what they do to earn their rent, a cheap cup of ramen and their waifu pillows and borderline pedo statues.

The concept of being proud of their creation is alien to them.
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>>86656964
>Remixes/covers that are better than the original
>Artists have them taken down
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>>86656964
I remember watching a video on that same topic. It isn't even just remixing/covering old songs, we actually tend to gravitate to the same tones/beats even when trying to create new music. It also happens you can get a "feel" of how a particular tune will play out, even if you never heard it before
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>>86657386
I think it takes creator integrity and being proud of your creation to bring a series to an end when it's time to end it.
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>>86656487
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>>86657721
>stupid enough
The problem is that in America the publisher owns your IP, in Japan the creator owns the IP.
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>>86658010
It depends on the contract, just like it does in the west.
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>>86656838
Naruto and DBZ are both already over.
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>>86656838
If Dragon Ball was a western comic Goku would still be a kid fighting the Red Ribbon army and fucking Pilaf.
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>>86656984
I'm not reading murder rape man
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>>86658010
Hahahahahaha


No
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>>86658046
>>86658184
The author of Negima literally ended his manga in protest against a proposed change to the law that would automatically take control over properties from the authors and give it to the publishers.

>right now the biggest thing that occupied most of Ken’s time (at least on twitter) is his fight against publishers, which including Kodansha, in trying to impose a new law by creating “neighboring copyright”,

>for people who are not creator but has a hand in “helping” the creation of the work gets automatic right, meaning editors, researchers, printers, etc. or plain speaking, a power grab by the publishers to take right away from the author, this is something VERY SERIOUS and has long unforeseen consequences if pass through,

>(the publisher can and will go after second hand creation/dojin without need to ask the permission of the author, etc. (it was one of the state benefits of this law) meaning the end of dojinshi as we know it.,

>or after a serial is over the author can not retain exclusive right to it while the publisher can hold onto to it forever to keep making money for itself, etc.)
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>>86656979
>insults person for guving random insult
>gives random insult
Real creative you intellectually disabled piece of shit.
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There's no future in making new superheroes. New IPs should explore different genres.

>fantasy
>sci-fi
>romcom
>mystery
>martial arts
>supernatural
>sports
>gag comedy

There's so much more beyond capes
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>>86658312
GOD BLESS CAPITALISM
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>>86656487
energy? yes
but executives will shoot it all down
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>>86656487
Only if you put them in a vidya game OP
print media is dying
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>>86656487
No, because you can't jerk off to decade-old lore twisted by dozens of different writers.
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>>86657386
>The concept of being proud of their creation is alien to them.
desu senpai, the HxH 2011 team loved their work a whole lot, same for the Mob Psycho 100 group.
Those are just examples fresh in my mind.
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>>86656685
>starting shit
You know that the only responses you are getting for this post are people that actually read manga with relative frequency but don't want to start shit, so they post troll shit about how "all mango is like nurutu, fuck off fgt!!!11!!" just to try to piss weebs off. Granted, these same people will be reading every time more manga and less comics as time goes on, but they'll still troll 'cuz they want to be left alone with they shit, this is /co/, not /a/.
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Doubtful. Most comic readers are fanboys with hard-ons for the characters they grew up with. Independents can churn out a success or two like Invincible for example, but outside of the Big 2, it rarely happens.
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>>86656908
DBS has an official Manga tho
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>>86656487
best bet is from 3rd parties made from independent cape writers working together to make a coherent universe
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>>86656685
most of the time a manga is created with the idea that at some point it's going to end and the creator of that manga actually owns those characters.

cape comics aren't. they're made with the idea that heroes will continue to have wacky adventures for years to come.

you can't really go "well why don't they make new heroes with no relation to old ones?" because it's been shown time and time again that it doesn't work
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>>86656487
Creating yes, establishing yes, popularizing, almost never.
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>>86657721
This kind of thing is really fucked up. How can you have no loyalty or faith in the company you work for?
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>>86662265
When they have none for you and would drop you on the streets once everything is done and over.

It's just a job.
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>>86662265
>no loyalty
loyalty is earned
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