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Wakfu OVAs

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Okay, I don't know if I'm going crazy or what, but WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING IN THESE OVAS?

Yugo is suddenly in love with Amalia (which isn't an issue if it weren't so sudden) and like, he's implying he won't grow up? But like, he did grow up, he's been growing at a normal rate his whole life, did he just suddenly stop? Hell, even dragons seem to grow up faster than him, Adamai's got a new look and everything.

He's also kind of a prick to the Frost-whatever people. I understand being hostile to their leader, but I'm surprised how against helping them at all he is. Ya he wanted to leave the world behind, but I'm sure another solution could have been reached with Yugo's help. Traveling from place to place helping people is his THING.

Also the fight felt very bullshit... like I dunno, usually it feels like the heroes win because they do some cool strategies and work together, but then Tristepin kinda bursts out of the unbreakable ice because he's super dad. And Yugo deflects crazy lazers at the woods which contain random civilians (dick move yugo) because he's empowered by his love for Amalia.

Then Tristepin is actually a fucking god, which kinda pissed me off, because I kinda liked him better as a daring hero, and Goultard better as a helpful master. Also now I kinda feel less impressed Goultard somehow became God, because apparently it was just nepotism. I dunno, maybe this wont be as bad as I feel it is, because I stopped watching around this part.

Finally I think this parts more on me, but I was under the impression Dofus only had power (or maybe only existed) while one of the dragons or eliotropes was inside of it. Add to that I thought there were only 6 dofus, but apparently there are 12?

I dunno, I'm confused, I'm upset, I don't think it's very good and I don't know what to do about it so I'm ranting on 4chan.
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At least it has waifus
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>>86554098
>Yugo is suddenly in love with Amalia (which isn't an issue if it weren't so sudden)
>suddenly

dude, the first clues of a childhood crush were laid late season 1 and turnd pretty blatant all along season 2.
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>>86555005
Huh, i've been told I'm blind when it comes to seeing these kinds of things, I honestly didn't really notice.

That part didn't bother me nearly as much as the rest of it though.
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In other news: Tome 4 was delayed by 1-2 months.
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>Joris is fucking useless
>Dally wants a quiet life
>Girls are useless
>Rule isn't funny
>Oh test becomes a child at the end.

Ya fuck those OVAs. I desperately want them to be non-canon.
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>>86555269
Fuck.
I had preordered it with the dofus tome 23, since they were supposed to come out in the same day.
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>>86555365
I really liked them actually.
I don't get why some people feel them so wrong.
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>>86555437
Not enough Amalia hips.
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>>86555471
Fair enough, she was sickeningly dressed.
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>>86555365
>Armand is back to S1 levels of dickishness
>Yugo being really out of character
>Bullshit Powerups
>They literally beat the strongest being in their universe.
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>>86555771
>ifunny
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>>86555505
Exactly.
That delicious brown girl was not meant to be so covered.
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>>86555771

Fucking amani. Thought he was annoying before but now he's really hit a new low.
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So I just finished the OVAs. What's next?

From what I gather theres:
>Dofus Show
>Dofus Movie
>Wakfu Manga

What order does the manga come in? After the OVAs?
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>>86554098
Yeah, you pretty much nailed it. Mind you these are not the only problems with the OVA, but I don't want to just list the problems here, that helps nobody.

The real problem with it, the problem all problems stem from, is actually endemic to what happened in the second season as well. Namely: it lacks focus.

The OVA is divided into three chunks of story. So it seems to have something of a basic three- act structure, it's supposed to have a beginning, a middle and the end.

Only these things don't connect to each other at all and it's because they're trying to cram sooo much stuff into every part that it just becomes messy. The first episode, the opening premise to a story supposedly, has a new Nox knock-off who is supposed to challenge Yugo as a nemesis and at face value it could work. He's charming, but serious, he has a nation to rule so he has to make tough decisions and he's in love with Amalia. So in theory he should be a perfect foil to Yugo. Only they don't capitalize on those things at all, the entire plan of the Count is revealed to be cartoonishly stupid, his part in the story is cut short, his love for Amalia ends up a plot point going nowhere.

Then you have what amount to a long fight scene between characters we don't even really know. Sure, some of us watched the Kerubim's Emporium (or whatever it was called in English), but to a whole lot of us the whole sequence was confusing. Who is Atch? Who is Kerubim? What is Jorris doing there and why are they calling him "dad", what the hell is going on here? What's an Ecaflip Dimension? In fact what's an Ecaflip, should I know ANY of this? And then they throw in Remington into the mix.Just because I think, to this day I do not understand what his role in that episode was.

----> cd.
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>>86554098
cd. ---->

And then you have the finale. The god damned finale, in which they attempt to adddress the issue of Ogest's Chaos, the most hyped up aspect of Dofus Mythos and something of a lingering threat that existed on the scale of a natural disaster, by... Reducing it to a shonen fight. Oh, and Dally is a god now. Even thought that makes asbolutely no sense, but hey, we needed somebody to match Yougo's power level in that scene and somebody needed to lose something for the sake of cheap drama. We already killed of Tristepin once, it worked, so we might as well take his arm this time. It's sure to work great.

It reeeaaally didn't. That entire episode made no sense. The Shushu's are entirely trivialized in an epic genocide where the heroes literally NUKE THEIR HOME PLANE. Goultard's character is trivialized and literally becomes a punchline to a joke he made at the end of season two. Adamai and Yugo's relationship is trivialized because, again, we need cheap drama. EVERYTHING they could trivialize, they do. Every bridge they could burn down, they do. It's an absolute train-wreck of story-telling.

So in the end what you have are three episodes. Each one of them has some cool ideas, great animation and interesting (potentially) characters and themes but none of them connect to each other. In all the chaos of plots, ideas they try to introduce to connect to everything thus far they just lose any semblance of focus.

And you know what's worst? Even in all that chaos of plots and ideas they STILL fail to resolve the ONE THING they start with, which is the romance of Yugo and Amalia. How is it gonna be resolved? What's the status quo for now? What's the possible outcomes and conflicts we can expect for the sake of the story? We don't know, it's left entirely unaddressed.
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>>86557176
Oh, and fuck them for sidelining Cleophe. Sure, she turned out to be a disappointment in the end, but she was still a huge part of season two. For her story to end in a lousy cameo at the wedding scene, without a single line of spoken dialogue is just... Disgraceful.
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>>86554098
There are six Dofus of each type. Six were laid by those dragons that were in Ogrest's stomach, the other six are for Yugo and his family
>>86557176
>Dally
Call him Pin pin like a normal human being
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>>86554098
I don't hate the OVAs but they demonstrate some serious weaknesses in the show's storytelling.
They didn't know what to do with the story so they just escalated the power levels and hoped it would compensate.
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>Ruel doesn't get to do shit
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>>86554098
I want him back for Season 3 :(
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>>86558501
I'm 99% sure he's dead.

He was being kept alive by his magical clock thing wasn't he?
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>>86558501
>>86558582
Remember, souls reincarnate in this setting. His soul has probably already been reborn has a new xelor.
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hello, I just started waching wakfu, I know I am late to the party.

I know there were blureys but only for guys at kickstarter.

I found hd versions torrents but not blureys. Is there a torrent or mega or something where I can download bluray versions? thanks
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>>86558896
They fucked up the timing on the blurays, the HD webdl ondemand stuff is the best we have
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>Grogalolagran using Wakfu-vision says Ruel is the strongest among them
>nothing ever comes of that
>is actually the weakest at this point
>>86558501
>>86558582
he was kill
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>>86558950
Ruel is the strongest, but using that full strength would require him to give money to his god.
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>>86558921
would still want to see them, are they available to download ? I would buy them but I know they are not available to buy outside of kickstarter
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>>86558950
DELETE THIS
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>>86559070
I don't know. I believe there was a torrent available at some point. Rip kickass. Try nyaa.se ?
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>>86557258
>Call him Pin pin like a normal human being
If it helps, even if you watch it in French on Netflix the subtitles STILL call him Dally and all the other BS localizations.
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>>86559455
tried nyaa no luck so far, I am sad
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>>86559487
>subtitles
Those are actually closed captions, not subtitles. They use the same script that the VA's used. The fansubs are infinitely superior, but honestly just learn French instead.
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>>86561130
I hate to break this to you but learning French will not make you a better frog poster.
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>>86554098
>Yugo is suddenly in love with Amalia

the more obvious hinting between the two started in the manga
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>>86556958
manga starts directly after season 2, it fills in the gaps when they mentioned in the ova that they were doing stuff with the dofus, and the manga will be about that
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>>86559070

http://pastebin.com/pnixYFQ4
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>>86558950
At least he gets to move on.
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>>86554098
Yugo/Amalia I was ok with. It's annoying that development of that happened off screen and in a comic, but I wasn't about to be up in arms opposed to it.
Yugo being a prick about it though is was less forgivable. The whole plot with the Count felt super rushed, like there coulda been a good story, but they were in a rush to fight everything they wanted into that 1 episode so Yugo starts accusing the Count before he did anything wrong and the Count turns almost pure evil at the next most convenient plot twist.
There's 6 Primordial Dofus that are ridiculously powerful but more weaker ones scattered throughout.

All in all, I agree that the OVAs were kinda a mess. The first one was just awkwardly poorly paced, the second one was an excuse to have a crossover with Dofus stuff, and the third reminded me of Pokemon 2000 with a buncha mindless monsters all having a stupidly flashy fight for way too long. I'm glad Tristepin lost his god powers though, and Yugos ridiculous power boost was also temporary so season 3 has a good chance of redeeming itself.

In other news, this arrived in the mail from that one sale last week!
>Love the quality on this
>See they planned other deluxe figures of Kriss and Goultard
>Remington was the only one they made
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>>86563674
THOSE FAGGOTS ON /V/ DIDNT BELIEVE ME BUY I KNEW I SAW IT
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>>86565494
Here's blu-ray quality.
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>>86558921
What'd they fuck up the timing of? I've been watching the blu rays and they seem fine.
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>>86565784
The frame rate is slightly lower which stretches the audio and causes it to be slightly pitched down. Also makes the episodes about a minute and a half longer.
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>>86565494
>>86565674
What am I looking at, exactly?
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>>86565817
Huh, must be one of those things where now that I know about it, it'll never stop bugging me. That's a huge shame that they had to botch the kickstarter reward like that.
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>>86565912
The framerate/audio is fixable with re-encoding, but the real issue was the shitty English dub and along with the English-dubtitles for the French audio subtitles.
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>>86566014

The real problem is the botched bluray from Ankama. I'd fix the framerate back to 25, but the audio is not lossless and I dont want to reencode the dts track.

Everything get could they did wrong with the bluray.
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>>86566142

>get
*they

Also I wrote their support about the shitty bluray and what to do so the next one won't, but they couldnt care less. A shame really.
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>>86566156
As soon as I noticed this shit I ripped & flipped the bluray on ebay for more than I backed for & kept all the extra goodies.
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>>86566014
As someone who has seen both, the english dubbing is a non issue because the french version is there all well and good. The new subs aren't that bad either. A couple changed jokes, but a lot of really weird little translations were fixed up. For example, Goultard using the nickname Papoine had no meaning in english. It was just a weirdly untranslated word to english that only barely paid off in the end line of him saying "papa" before going. I actually liked the translation of Goultard calling him Daddio to the end line Daddy. It wasn't word for word, but made more sense. Along side other stuff like "All that has happened has happened before" really is just more accurately translated to "history is repeating itself"
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>>86564179
that remington looks great! did they give any other goodies? they slip in a buncha free stuff in mine
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>>86565911
i believe he is referring to young sadida nips
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>>86566278
Oh yeah. I got my bonus season 3 random figure which I knew I was getting, but I also got a couple large packs of giant cards which I have no idea what to do with and a Count Harebourg coin that I will happily use to replace the quarter I keep in the box for all the ecaflip abilities.
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Quick question, where can I stream Dofus? Its not on netflix and Kisscartoon is shit for me for some reason..
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>>86566401

Nowhere
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>>86566197

Me too, even made some good money sold for 150€ or something like that[/SPOILER] still sad that Ankama neglects the best video/audio quelity source we have.
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>>86566401
nowhere.. for now
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I don't get how people didn't like them. They made me like best boy more than I already did
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>>86567792
he's not THAT good...
I almost cried when he died in season 1
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>>86567792
The biggest complaint was the powerlevels.
Like they had to make two of the main characters on the level of Gods to even fight him and even then Ogrest manhandled them.

On a different note this is apparently what the Scarier God looks like.
Would eternal bondage with.
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>>86554098
My only real gripe was the Yugo not aging thing being introduced. Why did they even bother?

But the rest of this shit was known. Goultard being the son of Iop in particular.
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>>86558624
If souls reincarnate, does that mean he truly never got to see his family again? Not even in death?
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>>86567921
Why you do this to me
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>>86567901
France3 logic
>hips and lewds ok
>non shota boi mc not ok
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>>86565494
>>86565674
What episode is this from?
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>>86568043
Ep 14 my dude
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>>86568018
It's just confusing, especially because there's no fucking reason for it.

We see him grow normally until he hits twelve, we see him as an adult in flashbacks...so why did they decide to stunt him at twelve? It's literally never brought up before.

I could understand wanting to make his dynamic with Amalia more difficult, but shit, she's a sadida princess and he's some weird minorly divine king with wings on his head. I don't think that relationship needs more tension.
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>>86568053
I just checked it. Shit checks out.
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>>86568108
mah man
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>>86567792
I think everything that should be said about why the OVAs don't work, has been said already.

The big problem is a complete lack of focus. Ever since season 1 ended it seems the creators completely lost the ability to tell a somewhat linear story. It goes on without any changes until it suddenly changes in scope at one point. There is no natural escalation to what's going on. Couple that with a tendency of throwing in new plots that weren't even alluded to previously and you have one awful mish-mash of a story.

Each singular elements in Wakfu work, it's just that when you put them together they don't even seem to connect.

Season 1 was great because it had a natural progression of events, it had a good begining, a solid middle ending with and epic mid-season finale and the straight run towards the ending was paced great, was tensed and ended with a satisfying pay-off.

In contrast both season two and the OVA seem to have a good beginning, a meaty middle and a strong finale, but these parts don't seem connected to each other. For example season 1 starts with re-introduction and Resurrection of Tristepin to get the Brotherhood back together. Then it suddenly, out of nowhere, turns into a twist where the antagonist is Quilby and the stakes are the sake of the world. And then it ends with a steam-punk-ish battle of mechs against demons as a back-drop to our protagonist fighting the bad guys. These parts are connected by loose filler and half-baked plotlines. Like take that side plot with Ombrage being lost in the chaos of Rubilaxia falling apart. In the aftermath she often appears in the background, leading up to somewhere. Except it leads nowhere, the entire plot is just scrapped and doesn't resolve at all. What was the purpose of it? And then you have Cleophe, which has the same problem. She's nothing more than a plot device to entertain us between the end of Rubilaxia arc and the finale. And the same basic problems exist in the OVAs.
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>>86568067
Well not really. We didn't get any explanation for why he's not really aging, but seeing as how all the others aren't aging either in 'their dimension', it must mean that they have to 'do something' to become adults I'd guess.
Wakfu's world is full of magic stuff, and they're basically half dragons so...
My guess is that it'll be explained later. Or at least, that's the plan. But it will be bigger than just a 'mc doesn't age' trait.
Or it's just that their puberty lasts several hundred years.
It's never been brought up before because he's the only Heliatrope we 'know' (as in, Quilby is a special case, and we only know so little about him)
But it didn't bother me at all. But maybe that's because I find Amalia/ss super fucking hot.
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>>86568642
>I find Amalia/ss super fucking hot.

The end game is Amalia becoming a goddess of hips and ass herself.
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I liked the OVAs on my first watch, and still can't get to dislike them that much even now.
What bothers me the most is how they butchered Harebourg's character to make him into a standard villain with stalking a 13 year old girl as his hobby, and how the fights went in the second OVA (mosy notably Joris becoming weak as hell for no reason). Yugo not growing up is bothersome but they didn't have much choice because of France 3 so I can forgive them.

I didn't have much problems with Tristepin being a god (reincarnation isn't new in this universe) and I'll be happy as long as he doesn't get it back for a while at least, same with Yugo and the Dofus. The Ogrest fight was over the top, but it was pretty good and they defeated him without winning the battle which is a good decision fro the writing team considering the Gods had given up on beating him already.
The saving grace of the OVAs for me are the animation, OST and the setup for new arcs (Brotherhood of the Forgotten)
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ok now that we have blurays source (thanks be the way man)
what other episodes should I download in this quality. Are there any other episodes with some "fan service" besides 2/14 ?
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>>86568642
The reason the other Eliatropes don't grow up is because in Emrub is timeless, unless that's been retconned. Normal Eliatropes are supposed to grow up normally, just the immortal ones stop at age 12
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>>86555771

>They literally beat the strongest being in their universe.

Nigga they got their shit kicked in by Ogrest, if it wasn't for the Bird guy they would have died.
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>>86568709
can any wakfu expert help me please?
what other episodes are worth having in max quality? any panty shots or other bath / shower scanes?
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>>86570610

There is no fan service. One panty shot of Eva in S1 some Amalia stuff so on. Just get all of them comrade or you poor or something?
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>>86571424
I have problem with hard disc space man, too much porn
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>>86571424
Speaking of which, why was Eva build up as some kind of sex-appeal queen in the show? Amalia was always way hotter.
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>>86571611
in season 3 trailer Eva is pregnant with 3rd child, imagine how much sex they have .(at least 3 times)
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>>86568734
But you see an adult Yugo in flashbacks with Quilby.

>>86571611
Boobs, anon/
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>>86555005
>>86555203
The comics are where the ftush really ties in. Also, preggo Eva and Grovy starting to become responsible. Also Yugo realizing he ages like an Elf.

Also, a comic about Kabrok and Miranda, one about Remy and how Grany became a cat, one about Maskmane, one about Goultard, and so on.
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>>86558501
Krosmaster is getting a cartoon, he's the main promo for it.

He'll be back. In chibi form.
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>>86554098
>Yugo is suddenly in love with Amalia (which isn't an issue if it weren't so sudden)

It wasn't sudden, if you read the manga they are all over each other. I don't remember if season 1-2 had any signs of affection, but they probably did. Plus he saved her kingdom and like the entire world before, and is an immortal god king, so its normal for Amalia to have a crush on him.

>and like, he's implying he won't grow up? But like, he did grow up, he's been growing at a normal rate his whole life, did he just suddenly stop?

He is immortal, so his aging is slower. Or he is just naturally a short person, or a late bloomer. Amalia looks like a grown woman, Yugo looks like a kid. He'd make her look bad.

>Hell, even dragons seem to grow up faster than him, Adamai's got a new look and everything.

.. pretty sure he didn't, not until season 3 anyway.


> but then Tristepin kinda bursts out of the unbreakable ice because he's super dad.

He is DPS God Dad, so yeah, he can.

>Then Tristepin is actually a fucking god, which kinda pissed me off, because I kinda liked him better as a daring hero,

For what its worth, he didn't like being a god either, he renounced the power once he didn't need it anymore.

>all those dofus

they always have power, and they have world breaking power once you get all 6 together.

There are two sets of 6 dofus, one is the original set of Dragon dofus, the other set is the eliatrope ones.

Remember, Eliatropes travelled from off-world to the World of 12, their ship lies under Mount Zinit (the mountain on top of which Ogrest floods the world).

>>86558950
Ruel doesn't do shit because otherwise he'd have to donate money to his God to use powers.
Remember when they visited his house, how much money he had? That's his power level when it comes to special attacks.
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>>86568696

>TFW you wanted to see hobo wizard but got generic white hair guy
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>>86567901
>My only real gripe was the Yugo not aging thing being introduced. Why did they even bother?

Because they were too lazy to make a new character model.
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>>86569699
>Nigga they got their shit kicked in by Ogrest, if it wasn't for the Bird guy they would have died.

Yugo used all his powers to teleport the mountain into orbit. If he hadn't done that, they could've brute forced Ogrest.

Of course if they did, the shockwaves of the fight would've caused megatsunamis that destroy all the remaining civilization on the planet.
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>>86554098
Dude, the series started to go to shit half way into season 2 when they fucked up and made yugo semi serious without aging him up in the least.
That and the entire escaflip dimension was fucking stupid, the wings on his head ridiculous and inspite of how fucked up the the end boss was he was still only mid boss level in importance.

The shu shu being trivialized to that level really hurt their importance and the world. Hell it should have been played up and treated as some great terrible place and the final battle with the shu shu king some kind of holy shit the world might be destroyed level thing.
But it's nothing.
I like the battles and what not but I honestly don't give a shit and that's the worst thing.
If you can't make the audience care about the specacle then you just have a very boring magic show where anyone who's still paying attention is simply sitting back and picking it apart.

>>86559002
LOL
Ruel as some kind of h4x broken paladin of his god and is so devout to the religion of cheapness that he'd let himself die rather then unass a single thin gold coin to gain any of his rightfully earned divine power.
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>>86565494
>Amalia has canon nudity
>mfw
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>>86567921
He did, he just killed them without recognizing them so that he could have more energy for his stupid illconcieved plan.
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>>86572140

>Ecaflip dimension

Why did it look dull compared to the other dimensions?
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>>86572152
Amalia's the only one with canon nudity
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>>86572271
I meant eliatrope.
Sorry I haven't seen it in so long that a few of the details and exact names have escaped me.
So I think I should simply bow out of commenting now.
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>>86555365
>Dally
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>>86572152
>>86572303
Production sketches have Eva nips.

Plus Goultard's wife.
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>>86572271
Because only 22 people can go there, and Ecaflip cares more about his city than his dimension. I imagine his dimension is just a storage closet to him.
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>>86571903
>Hell, even dragons seem to grow up faster than him, Adamai's got a new look and everything.

.. pretty sure he didn't, not until season 3 anyway.

His horns got longer I think, but I could be wrong
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>>86571903
I just want to throw this out there
season 2 they were all over each other as well
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When the fuck will we get to see Lady Srams? They're sexy as fuck. I never saw one the whole show, not even in background shots or the bar where all the ladies are gathered.
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>>86573137

I'm pretty sure Maude was a sram.
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>>86573137
>I never saw one
That's kind of their THING. They turn invisible.
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>>86572547
can you post Goultard's wife shetches then? I have seen Eva but not her
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>>86573137
>Sram
>Not qt Fecas
I am dissapointed in your tastes anon.
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>>86572547
Who is that in this picture?
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>>86573634
goultard
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>>86573645
And that's his wife? I see where Grovy learned his taste in women.
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But I like shipping these two...
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>>86573739
Yeah...

In the movie that's non-canon now, he married a witch. In the canon comic he married three.

Them being killed made him go Femto for a thousand years until a dragon purified him.
He immediately met young Tristepin.
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>>86573835
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>>86554098
It's a thing in the manga, there weren't really any signs in the animation though, unless you were actively looking for them
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>>86573835
>Goultard lost his virginity before his father did
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjBdg1yQTDQ
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>>86567684
What do you mean "For now"?
Is something in the works?
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>>86573907
>I'm dense as a brick and didn't see it, therefore it doesn't exist
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>watching season 1
>Eva continues to be more useless as time goes on

Does this continue into season 2?
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Do you think we will get anything after season 3 or will it flop?
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>>86575267
Season 2 turns that around a bit. The first 3 episodes basically star her. Percy and Yugo inevitably end up getting the biggest starring roles though and Eva ends up mostly just piggybacking on Percy's importance. It's one of my biggest gripes with the series is that they could do so much more with all their characters but give Percedal most of the non Yugo screen time.
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>>86575693
She also gets eclipsed by her own sister whose plot ends up leading nowhere.

Wakfu has great animation and some interesting ideas but the story is lousy as all fuck.
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>>86554098
>>86556986
>>86573752
Do yourselves a favor and just read this if you haven't already. Area handles like Yugo does Amalia's hips, and with zero dialogue to boot.

Totally made up for the OVAs.
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>>86576338
*handles romance
Fucking tablet.
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>>86576338
Dude, I just fapped to this. What do you think I do whenever a Wakfu thread appears?
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>>86575693
she goes from useless to a cunt
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>>86575777
Season 2 was lousy at story. Wakfu Season 1 on its own was pretty good, at least in my opinion.
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>>86576593
Season one was great. The pacing was top notch and the story was progressing lineary from one point to the next in a sensible way. Characters were utilized well and their development didn't leave me wanting. Everything worked great.

Then suddenly in season two they just lost their ability to tell a story, apparently.
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I'll never understand how Kabrok landed a woman like Miranda. Good on him for putting a bun in that oven though.
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>>86576858
I think they wanted more over the top fight scenes like the final battle of season 1, and sacrificed a lot of the heart and pacing of season 1 to try and fit in more awesome moments. Some of the call-backs felt nice and had some endearing moments but it was far too little compared to the bad pacing and some of the more ridiculous story points.

Honestly I'd have loved to see each season follow a new set of characters rather than driving one cast completely into the dirt.
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>>86576925
he tamed her felinity
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>>86576925
he's rich
pretty sure she stole shit from him to
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>>86576858
From what i understand, france3 told ankama to make season 2 half filler/oneshot stuff, so Ankama isn't totally to be blamed for it all of s2's faults.

Different story with ova which had much less influence from france3.

Their problem is or has always been is that they flat out suck at foresight and they're trying to jam in too many lore elements into their wakfu.
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>>86573909
So, did Goultard know that Grovy was the reincarnation of Iop?
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>>86554098

The ultimate problem with the OVAs:

It tries to interconnect the manga (budding subtle romance between Amalia and Yugo), some various comics (Remington and Ush's deal and past), the game and specials (Ogrest and Frostboy) as well as a couple previously unexplained elements that are explained in the Dofus film (Acham and Kerub's resurrection, Joris' role as a father to them).

Basically like all of Ankama's forms of media is involved. You have to be caught up on everything to understand most of it.
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>>86576957
>Honestly I'd have loved to see each season follow a new set of characters rather than driving one cast completely into the dirt.
That would be super cool to do, but i imagine it being a struggle to come up with new characters each season and i think ankama isn't exactly great when it comes to character variety.

>Oh great... another adopted little boy who's kind of actually immortal and is one of a kind.

Ankama's collective heads might explode if they wrote an adopted little girl who's kind of actually immortal and is one of kind.
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>>86577075
I liked the episode where Sadlygrove proves he's a dungeon pro. It was nice seeing Eva's opinion of him change.
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>>86577075

Theres nothing inherently wrong with filler.
They have such a huge, expansive world to immerse us in I can almost see it as necessity at times.

The problem is that it didn't build up to a satisfying conclusion. Definitely needed a bit more direction.

I still fucking loved it, I wasn't really disappointed. I just enjoy the world.
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>>86557727
>they just escalated the power levels

Yeah this was bullshit. Dragonball Z already wasn't very good the first time
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>>86577035
She's also rich.
He was a warrior who appreciated commerce rather than fighting, was great in the sack, and rescued her. He also eventually came clean about his past, and is a great father.
>>86577278
Not at first, but we don't know when he found out.

Grovy was just some random kid who wanted to see him wreck a place selling unlicensed Goultard merchandise.
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>>86577361
>Theres nothing inherently wrong with filler.

Technically, the majority of season 1 was filler as well. The difference is that it was the kind of filler that allowed for character development and it was always made clear that the climax is coming. In between the filler episodes we got those with Yugo and Adamai and short moments with No to keep foreshadowing that, yes, in fact the end IS coming.

In season two we get one big twist in the middle of the season with Adamai visiting the remnants of Eliatrope ship, Quilby flips out and that's it. We don;t hear from any of them for the next 10+ episodes. It doesn't help that you can't further develop characters that are already clearly established. So all we got was, well, comedy. somewhat sub-par comedy, unless you're crazy into french humor.
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>>86577418
Huh. It does bug me that out of all the characters, Grovy never has his family brought up.

You'd think they'd care to know that their son is a god and they have grandchildren.
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>>86571667
>imagine how much sex they have .(at least 3 times)

I laughed
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>>86571667
If the first two were a Cra and an Iop, what will the third be?

>>86571820
I thought Eva was supposed to be stacked.
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>>86577591
either
it depends on what they feel like following
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>>86577591
They pull a shak shaka and make a cra-iop hybrid
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>>86575580
>Dofus book 1 was amazing
>"It's book 1 so surely they have plans for a 2 and 3, right? I can't wait for more of this!"
>Book 1 flopped hard in theaters
>Wakfu didn't make much of a splash across seas which sabatages the chances of much of their other media making it here thanks to the connections
>Ankama animations is already trying to break away from Wakfu and Dofus with Mutafukaz, a completely original work

Season 3 might have to be made as the end. Worse than that, the Dofus has to suffer too when they just used it as an amazing example of just how good of animators they became.
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>>86577603
How exactly does that work really? If souls reincarnate in Dofus universe, does that mean their kids have souls of some legendary heroes that followed Iop and Cra? Could their kids become say, Sadida and Sram if they are reincarnated heroes of those gods? Or do they, like, pick the god when they are fetuses in the womb?
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>>86577896
Souls tend to go towards parents of the class they were in life. This isn't the rule and you can change gods/appearance before you hit puberty which looks in your appearance. It's a clean slate for the soul and they don't remember their past lives. There are some special cases, but these people are demigods or Qibly.
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>>86577856
>>Wakfu didn't make much of a splash across seas

probably because the dub was complete shit and we had superior subs already for years
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>>86563107
Huh. Maybe because I haven't kept up with Wakfu in years, but I swore up and down that it wasn't ever happening. Glad I was wrong.
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>>86578196
The subs impact is a minimal blip at best and I'd argue they're even better in a lot of regards, but the dub is a serious problem. It's actively chasing people away from the series if anything. People find it on netflix and english is on by default with no mention that it was originally french. They're greeted by voice work that sounds right out of a videogame from the late 90s and speed racer esque rushing to say all their lines because the script wasn't changed to fit the time frames they have to say eveything in. I'm not picky on dubs and watch most things dub, but this crossed the quality line into unwatchable. Even just technical aspects were messed up like how the battle grunts are way too loud and put over the music or how characters like Adamai when they transform keep their same voice when the original had filters or something applied to it to make it match his giant new form.
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>>86573073
show me the receipts then.
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>>86577496
Same.
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>>86578196
>(Note: Untranslatable pun about apples.)

Loved that episode.
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>>86577496
I always thought Grovy was under the care of the shushu guardians. not that it explains why he has no contact with them; maybe willingly fusing with rubilax is super taboo
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>>86578700
He references parents in like the first episode, doesn't he?
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>>86579299
I don't remember. maybe I'll give it another watch through
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>>86564179
in the game, yes, theres more than 6 dofus

in the ova, theres 6 primordial dofus that are native to this world and the 6 eliatrope dofus that come from the dead planet of the eliatrop
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>>86566364
yeah i got those as well, but there's mostly for season 2 krosmasters, a majority of mine are season 1, they're nice to look at though
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>>86567879

Krosmaga sacrier a cute
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Why is she so perfect?
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>>86581356

slender, great ass, small boobs and with character
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>>86554999
Trips for Killer Queen
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>>86559002
This. Enutrof magic is more powerful the more you spend, and Ruel is rich as fuck.

He's also a cheapskate.
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>>86577647
a crap
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