Keep traditional animation alive, you bastards. Go see Kubo right now

>>86515494
You can't tell me what to do.

>>86515494

that's not traditional animation it's stop motion

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Or you can also go buy some Nikes.

>>86515494

But I already saw Kubo

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>>86515833
I wish I could afford to see this rn

>>86515494

Fuck off with this garbage

no reason to keep stop motion around when the effect can be easily achieved with CG

only reason these people want it is because of 'purity'

>>86515494
It was in theatres in my area for a week and I was broke that week.

It's kind of a bit late to go see it in theaters unless it just opened in your country.

Even if it's still playing near you Laika's making next to nothing on ticket sales at this point.

If you want to support the movie buy a copy when it comes out on blu-ray and DVD.

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>CG+Stop motion
>traditional
Please be bait.
Pic related is traditional.

>>86516097

CGI doesn't age well at all. There will always be something telling the brain that "this is fake". With stop motion, where there is an actual physical object being manipulated, that sensation is absent.

There is nothing necessarily wrong with CGI, mind you. But to say that stop-motion animation is rendered obsolete by CGI is observably false. There is room within the animated medium for both, particularly in tandem with one another to achieve what stop-motion alone cannot.

>>86515494
Yes, master.
However there's a little hiccup with your plan, I'm going to watch it tomorrow, I hope you can understand.

>travis knight still says that he would like Laika to do a 2D animated film in the future
>;aika ends up saving western animation

>>86516651
Theres also a sense of wonder in traditional stop motion, its hard to do well and it takes a tremendous ammount of skill and vision.

I dont know, i personally feel it adds to the experience.

>>86515494
I saw it already.

Best animated film of the year.

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>only one showing at my cinema tomorrow, at noon
but tomorrow is my lie in bed all day day

>>86516494
Didn't they trace CG animation to make that?

>>86515494
Honestly the problem with Kubo is that if I didn't know it had stop-motion elements, I couldn't have told that from the movie.

They integrated it with the CG too well so that it all looked the same. Before you react, think honestly whether you could tell that, say, the big sword skeleton was stop-motion if you didn't already know it.

What's the point of using non-CG techniques if you're going to make it all look identical to CG?

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>>86515494
>CG crap
>Traditional
Steven Universe is the actual series keeping traditional animation alive, thank you very much.

>>86517769
Wait outside, junior, this clearly isn't the thread for you.

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>>86517794
>being TOO good at your job
I hate that america brushed paranorman under the rug because of 'the gay agenda'

>>86517806
fuck you rockwanker

The witches need more 34.

>>86516651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7CUCG6ijdE
Room on the Broom looks so incredibly close to stop-motion that if they had Disney amounts of technology development, stop-motion could easily become obsolete by modern CG tech.

Old CG used to age like milk, but we're reaching a point where it's finally hitting it's peak, kind of like 2D did when it started out as shitty Felix the Cat and evolved into Bambi. All that's left for CG is to start pushing it into other artistic directions: Moving oil paintings, visuals that look like animated charcoal, etc. Some people have gotten close already.

>>86517806
>Literally Tumblr: The Aniamted Series

You don't necessarily have to be idealistic about traditional animation to see "Kubo and the Two Strings." It's a fun, enjoyable, good-looking movie.

>>86516776

I have to get my short film made...

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>>86517730
WAKE UP!

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>thought the film was CGI
>someone tells me it's mostly stop motion
>mfw looking it up

HOW THE HELL DO THEY PULL IT OFF?

But Kubo is a bad movie???

>n-no its not, it just has a plot similar to old simple japanese folklore!
so a shitty plot

>>86518851
False marketing!? Like the recent Spongebob movie which only had 1/4 CGI and rest traditional animated.

>>86518865
Hit the nail right on the head

>>86518851
They have sneakerbucks to build gigantic custom made machinery combined with 3-d printed characters and a veritable army of artisans and builders.

>>86518388
it only looks vaguely similar to stop motion because it's jerky, it's very obviously CG

the ONLY time CG animation has been indistinguishable from stop motion has been The Lego Movie and that was an outlier to the extreme

What was with the Moonfolk In this movie....
I mean Tamiyo was a Moon folk Loemaster
The moon folk in this movie have story powers.
Is they,re some link between stories and Mooney people in Japan?

>>86515833
Why aren't the kubo nikes less than 500 bucks.

Laika doesn't need your money to survive, they are funded by a billionaire CEO.

>>86519370
gotta pay Regina Spektor somehow

>>86519322
How familiar are you with Taketori Monogatari? It recently got a Ghibli movie adaptation romanized as "The Tale of Princess Kaguya". This film is like a sequel to the events in it.

>>86519387
Yeah, and that's bad. Takes the fire out from under them, makes them lazy. They don't really have to try as hard to survive.

It's like a guy who comes to New York to make it as an artist but always knows he can call his rich Dad back home if things don't go well.

>>86519464
I have a passing knowledge due to MTG Soratami.
Something about a moon princess who went to earth and a bunch of guys wanted to data her but she said no.

>>86515494
Kubo is a CGI/Stop Motion blend. And it is made by a vanity studio that will never stop existing

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>>86519618
>bunch of guys wanted to data her

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>>86517806

>>86518865
Japan folktales are as bland as it's food

>>86515494
NEVER

>>86518865
I like old japanese folkstories.

>>86522961
Hey man i like japanese food

I have a perfect record of avoiding all laika movies and I don't intend to break it

>>86515494
I fell asleep in the movie theater. Do I still get points for spending the money?

It might have been because I spent the previous night trying to clear a game. I'll watch it when it comes out on Blu Ray.

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>>86526615
Are you pround of yourself anon?

>>86515494
can, local theater isn't showing it anymore.

If I had money I would, but I'm safe that they are doing better than me.

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>>86515494
>Stop-motion
>"traditional animation

>>86526886
What game? This is important.

>>86515494
I was planning on going to see it on friday.

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>>86518846

GRABABRUSHANPUTALITTLEMAKEUP

>>86519615
>Takes the fire out from under them, makes them lazy. They don't really have to try as hard to survive.
holy shit you're retarded
It means they don't have to put in a dozens of pop songs and gross out humor to appeal to kids and families

>>86515494
>Kubo isn't even in my cinema
Curse you 3rd world cinema!!!

>>86515801
Been around longer than "traditional" animation so I'd argue it's more traditional therefore it's a part of traditional animation.

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ay is it out on torrents yet

>>86518865
A movie without a dreamworks/disney wise guy cracking bantz and pop culture references was a refreshing change.

I'll hand it to you that the writing and dialogue were very rough at some points.

I want Laika to do a stop motion movie based on Journey to the West, featuring the Monkey King and all his pals.

>>86517806
disney keeps traditional animation alive

>>86517843
wtf
delete this

>>86528610

That would need to be a tv show with multiple seasons. Journey to the West is over 1400 pages long.

>>86528676
Yeah I know, but it's not like they haven't done condensed versions before. Or just done a certain part of the story. But yeah the normal thing is to do like a 52 part tv-series or something like that. But that's not plausible with stop motion.

>>86527521
Except it is traditional, moron.

>>86516651
> With stop motion, where there is an actual physical object being manipulated, that sensation is absent.
And instead you get the much worse sensation of
>holy shit a talking doll, kill it with fire

>>86528546
Monkey and Beetle were constantly cracking bantz.

>>86528797

Luckily not pop culture reference bantz.

I was going to go see it tomorow when i took a trip to the city to buy some comics but its no longer showing so im going to the tutankaman exhibit at the museum instead.

>>86515494
I did. The only people beside me were three or four 60+ year old women. Probably cause it was 11:15 in the morning on a weekday. The things you gotta do to see an animated movie undubbed.

>>86528610
I think it'd be interesting to see this done with Jamie Hewlett's designs for the opera based on the same story - I think his character designs would look well in stop motion

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>>86529101
I think something closer to Laika's usual style might be better but I like the Jamie Hewlett take on it too. Or this.

>>86519615
>but muh first year economics class
>my mcdonalds job sucks and I wouldn't work there if I didn't need the money so the same applies to every situation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

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>>86528627
You mean, WB keeps traditional animation alive

>>86515494
I would go see it, if not for the fact that the only places that show it does so in my native language exclusively.
Its a real bitch.

>>86517794
>Before you react, think honestly whether you could tell that, say, the big sword skeleton was stop-motion if you didn't already know it.
I didn't already know it and I thought that - so yes?

>>86516097
keep that CG filth away from me!

>>86528627
Disney killed traditional animation

>>86519464

>Kaguya is Kubo's mother

This is now my headcanon and nobody can tell me otherwise.

>>86515494
Fuck theaters

If I could pay to stream it I would. I can't, so a cam it is.

Theaters don't make sense as a business model anymore

>>86516651
Both trigger an uncanny valley response if done wrong.

CG can absolutely perfectly imitate stop motion, but the time and resources needed to render something photorealistic are currently too expensive

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>>86515494
B-but it's out the 3rd of november here in Italy ;_;

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>>86528627
>disney

That's a funny way to spell Japan.

>>86530176
>Posts a 20 year old animation.

>>86530203
>Ghost in the shell is 20 years old
Jesus but yeah japs become lazy piece of shits after they moved to digital animation in 2000s

Laika needs movies with better writing

>>86530176
Feel free to go back to your containment board at any time

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Watch it for Kubo's mother.

She pretty fiiiiiine... Got dem good dick-suckin' lips

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>>86530352
>>86530203
https://twitter.com/monsuun/status/733259158472921089

America has lost their greatest art form to Japan. You let Jews decide animation would have been reduced to children entertainment. Sad.

>>86515779
Oh, I will

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>>86515494
>only dubbed version in a theater nearby
>out of cinema next week

I'll just get the blu-ray again I guess

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>>86515494
I went to see it for the second time yesterday, the fight on the boat is still amazing, and film is just so beautiful overall, especially the 'flashback' between Kubo's mother and Hanzo. Can't wait for the blu-ray.

There was a couple of neat things I noticed the second time around, like the giant waves in the beginning rising up on whatever side of the screen the full moon was on, or that the swords weilding Sister has some claw things on her right hand. Oh and the moon changing after the Moon King is defeated, but that's a kinda obvious one./spoiler]

>>86530352
You do know that 4chan anime imageboard and always will be but i am not defending this guy he is pretty stupid to try say that japan is any better.

>>86519083
Even The Lego Movie has obviously CGI scenes. Not to say there weren't scenes that looked identical to an extremely high budget brickfilm but even their attempts to create CGI undistinguishable from the real plastic failed sometimes.

>TFW Disney is going to rig the oscars so one of their movies win.
>TFW that stupid pet movie will probably get a nomination instead.

>>86531725
>caring about oscars

>>86528627
Disney has only made like 2 trad animation films since the turn of the millenium, how are they keeping it alive?

>>86531725
Disney doesn't have to rig anything, and they don't. The judges just don't like to watch animation, so they pick whatever movies their kids like, which is usually Disney, Or, they just go with Disney because they know whatever Disney makes will at least be somewhat decent, regardless of whether or not something better was made.

>>86531725
They don't rig anything.
There was an interview of the Oscar judges and they all made it pretty clear that they think animation is a joke.

One even said that he just takes his kid to an animated movie and he would instead go outside and do work instead of watching the movie. They all either hate or have complete apathy for animation.

>>86516651
>>86517644
I agree completely, that's actually why I didn't like Paranorman as much as their other stuff was because they were extremely keen on the animation and it actually to me felt like they lost some of the wonder in it (let alone I really didn't like the story after that intro sequence). I do think though like >>86518388 that we're getting to a point that CG can imitate a lot of what stopmo can do and not age poorly as time goes on. Still, I definitely don't want the art form to die out, luckily it seems Laika being a pure stop motion company helps that cause.

>>86516494
whats this from?

>>86515494
Just saw it, and it was beautiful. There was so much to love about it.
Here's hoping it gets a Japan release.

>>86516494
>>traditional
>Please be bait.

Nigga, Stop Motion is literally something that has been in theatrical films since 1925.

Nineteen twenty motherfucking five.

The fuck is that not 'traditional'?

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>that part were his parents fucking died
Well, I was certainly not expecting that.
Hold me, /co/.

>>86516651
>There will always be something telling the brain that "this is fake".

Lego movie, which to this day has dumbasses arguing that it's just stop motion with CGI enhancements.

>>86528797
It was more dry humor bantz than "XD so Jungle Book" type bantz.

>>86534356
>XD so Jungle Book
What?

>>86533554
It's from urusei yatsura, that cut in particular is animated by Anno.
>>86534307
Kill yourself.

>>86533098
>One even said that he just takes his kid to an animated movie and he would instead go outside and do work instead of watching the movie.

>In one quote showing yourself to be an unqualified judge of a prestigious award and a shitty parent all at the same time

wew
e
w

>>86517806
kek

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>>86515494
I would but it doesn't start here for almost a month

>>86516494
>ANIMASHUN thread
>posts an air to air combat sequence

Wow, those trails from the missiles are so detailed!

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>>86530376
>spoiler

Which she passed on to Kubo

>>86519370
because sneakerfags are retarded and will easily pay that much for something that is going to sit in a box in their closet for all eternity

>>86515494
I've already seen it twice and I'm planning to go see it for a third time later this week; I was thinking Thursday.

>>86515494

Already did. Damned good movie.

>>86517843
>gay agenda

lol what could it be? are they going door to door praising elton john their lord and savior? the fuck is the gay agenda? sounds made up

>>86529290
>pic of anime styled women

>>86528627
>disney keeps traditional animation alive

you mean traditional values? with corporate profit and subliminal messaging?

I like the way Kubo's mother goofed around while impressing on him the importance of keeping the monkey charm on him at all times. That was cute.

>>86517843
I love laika but lets be real here, almost all of their films get relatively little attention

Pretending that Paranorman didn't get the attention it deserved because of a single scene at the end which outraged some blogger is pretty silly.

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>>86515494
>draw it a girl
>call it a boy
wtf i hate laika now

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>>86515494
Kubo bombed hard, traditional animation has been dead and buried for the past 15 years. The sooner you get used to it the less we all have to sort through these shitposts.

>>86515833
got an erection

>>86536156
>thinks there's no fag agenda
http://www.hrc.org/resources/transgender-children-youth-ask-the-expert-is-my-child-transgender

>>86538933
and this tells us.....what about their secret agenda?

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I don't get how people were saying that they couldn't tell it looked like stop-motion. It was great, but It still clearly looked like stop-motion.

It was one of the first things my dad noticed when I took him to see it and he doesn't watch much animated stuff at all.

I'll buy it on dvd instead. I don't have the money to go to the movies more than once or twice a year and I'm saving that for Moana.

Stop motion isn't 'traditional animation'. Yes, it is technically a very old style of animation however the term 'traditional animation' refers to 2D art ala Leafie or The Princess and the Frog.

>>86515833
how do those guys move so fast

>>86540308
Nike sneakers.

The downside of it being stop-motion was that it felt rushed. I didn't feel much emotional connection to anyone and the quest seemed easy. The Moon King was a walkover. It also was lacking in style compared to Coraline, holding Japanese culture at arm's length. As a technical show it was very impressive but I don't think I would enjoy it without the stop-motion.

Very good character designs, though.

>>86540690
>As a technical show it was very impressive but I don't think I would enjoy it without the stop-motion.
This is a very good point, actually. I think it would have still been pretty amazing if it was CGi like everything else -- the story and distinct lack of many pitfalls you see in other animated movies wouldn't change, of course. However the stop motion animation just adds so much.

Now I'm probably going to start thinking about this question in reference to 2D animated films as well.

>>86515833
I always have thought one needs to be a bit insane to choose to animate a whole film in stop motion.

>>86540690
Thats not an issue with it being stop motion, it's just that it was rushed or something. Beetle and the Aunt's deaths must have been rushed.

bumpu

Anybody else make stopmotion movies as a kid?
I used Legos.
I had one where Bionicles were kaiju for the Legos and they broke out of a kaiju space containment and my Legp OCs had to hunt them down.
it was pretty bad

>>86541751
It honestly should have been 20 minutes longer, maybe half an hour, the plot would have benefited greatly.

>>86540308
are they moving fast, or is it us who are moving too slow

>>86515833
>Eobard thawne gets a job at Laika

>>86515494
It's never coming to my country, so I wound up watching it on kisscartoon.

Pretty great stuff though the deaths near the end were kind of abrupt.