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The second episode released today, it really made me realize how shit the writing in comics and movies are for superheroes. I don't think I can name a single Batman story that flipped it on it's head so well with his dad being in league with Falcone and assassinated because of it
most people would just make Batman a gay nigger ladyboy to make him "interesting" not what Telltale has done here
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>>86418669
Thomas should not be a mafia boss you retard, they are pretty much doing a edgier long Halloween for people like you
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>>86418750
Other than some characters being in both, it's nothing like long halloween and why not have a story that's in it's own continuity change some shit? It's interesting and questions the morals that Batman and Bruce have because of it
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>>86418877
this is actually a good point once you mention it, but some stuff just feel strange dude, i still want to know who masked man is
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>>86419104
I'll be pissed if it's someone like Joker, and i can see them doing that. Right now though i'm honestly shocked with how good it is considering they went to shit a while ago. This reminds me of Wolf Among Us. I never really thought of Batman as a political drama over a crime drama but it works really well that way. I'm curious to see in Dent will actually be mayor
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>>86418877
while I agree that everything that lives in its own continuity can do as it pleases, I want to say that it is still a really fucking lame idea.

It is trying way too hard to be like " Whoa , didn't see THAT coming" and it's more shock value then it is good writing.
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>>86419391
It can be both. Batman has been around forever, every story that can be told has in some way with him. Shock value is all you can run on with a semi original idea. i like the idea that Alfred was quitting the night that the wayne's died and that Thomas was a criminal. Batman lives up to his parents by being good and just while helping the city like they did, except these parents were actually hurting the city, it plays against one of the core points of Batman in an interesting way. it's an agree to disagree point i guess but i really did like that part where The Mask of Zorro was always played special for Bruce because Martha arranged it
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>>86418669
The problem with the writing in the entertainment media these days is that:
> You have to aim for the average, and that means more than half the population. That means you really have to write for not very smart people. Easy to digest, almost telegraphed for the slowpokes.
>Time is short. You have to write a story that can be told in just one chapter, because you need casual audience.
>You cannot make ambiguous messages, neither polemics.
>You have to write for your investors, which probably don't want to make risky movements, like, say, make the chinese angry.
>Most of the people don't like changes and they want to stay in their confort zone.
>You need to write fast.

These are the problems in most comics, TV shows, movies and AAA games. In my opinion, at least.
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> Batman's origin is how innocent people get caught in horrible things at random and Bruce wanting to stop it, becoming his obsession
> make his dad a criminal

Making it a "he had it coming" undermines a lot of his motivation imo.
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>>86420337
That's the point, he has to reconcile that. He didn't know his father was a criminal until someone leaked info on it. Even Alfred lied to him.
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>>86420422
It still sends his motivation down the drain.
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>>86420250
Yeah I have that issue with TV.

Keep in mind, TV IS getting better and better, but people keep pointing towards shit like Game Of Thrones as an example of great writing even though the writing is really really basic at most times (I say this having read the books).

Like, I'm fine with people liking it, but don't hold it up as an accomplishment of writing when it's really not and then laugh at shows like The Walkind Dead and The 100 for doing the same quality shit.
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>>86420535
Not entirely, He's not going to start murdering because daddy wasn't perfect
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>>86418669
>his dad being in league with Falcone and assassinated because of it
Wasnt that the plot of earth 2 batman?
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>>86421080
I think the second part, but not the first
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>>86421080
Which earth 2? There's at least 4 now
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What were your choices /co/ ?

Ease Falcone’s pain with morphine medication or choose to hurt him?

Try to kiss Selina?

Visit Mayor Hill as Bruce Wayne?

Withdraw your funding from Harvey’s campaign?

Save Selina or Harvey?
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>>86421692
Ease the pain. Needed his lips nice and loose.

Tried to kiss Selina. I was caught up in the moment.

Visited as Bruce, can't tarnish Batman's image too much/could play political games as Bruce. (I seem to be in the minority of players who picked this).

Keep giving Harvey $. Dude didn't do anything wrong. He needs it to save Gotham from within the system.

Saved Harvey. I thought Selina could take care of herself and I need Harvey on the inside to clean up Gotham.
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>>86421692
Eased his pain, he was talking and not being a huge dick.
Didn't try to kiss Selina.
Visited as Bruce Wayne.
Kept funding Harvey.
Saved Harvey/

Playing Bruce as a man who, especially after left episode, really wants to make right with Gotham. Harvey has that in him, he really does seem to care and he's the only friend Bruce has left. I'm trying my best to keep Bruce from being the kind of man the press believes him to be.

I am curious as to what'll happen to Renee though, after being drugged into killing a crime lord.

>>86420571
>the 100.
Honestly, I feel like the character with the best overall development is good ol' punished Murph.
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>>86421692
But that last decision... Harvey's face gets melted off if you don't save him.

Do Telltale decisions actually matter now?
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>>86421692
I eased his pain
Yes
I went as Bruce
Never!
Harvey

>>86421819
muh nigga
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>>86421863
they've been upping it last few games
Game of thrones let you choose which character to kill, they were both playable up until that point
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>>86422041
I never quite finished the Game of Thrones one or Tales from the Borderlands. I got to like chapter 2 or 3 on both and then I just forgot when the next releases were. Either of them worth finishing now that they're done? I really liked Wolf Among Us.
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>>86421692
Eased the pain
I like to play Wayne and Batman as differently as possible - less suspicious, and I like to think that Batman is more than just a role Bruce plays (the “you can't keep me away” line from tdkr)
Tried to kiss Selina - seemed the right thing to do to keep the pace
Visited as Batman - let the people fear, that's the idea. And it was the coolest Batman sequence so far
Approved Harvey distancing himself and kept his funding going, he's still in the right
Saved Harvey, Selina can fend for herself. Does he get his face split if you choose Selina instead?
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>>86422663
Harvey gets smashed in the face with a stage light by Penguin and the left side of his face is burnt off if you save Selina.
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>>86422313
Game of Thrones is okay, ends up being just okay
I don't like Borderlands but I played Tales from the Borderlands recently, I liked it and the reveal of who the kidnapper is was pretty great. It grows on you by the end of it. The last episode was really fun but it had an ending that set up a season 2 which it didn't need
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>>86422663
How cool is the visit that batman does is ? i am tempted to play it again just for that
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>>86419104
>i still want to know who masked man is

You know who he is
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How buggy is it?
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>>86423778
Bruce Jenner?
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>>86423954
most bugs were patched out already
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>>86423954
Played it on the bone so i had nothing
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>>86421692
Hurt Falcone, fuck that nigga.

I tried to kiss Selina

Visit the Mayor as Batman, he'd just fucking lie to Bruce

I'd never withdraw my funds from BROTP

Saved Selina, had to get my dick wet.
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>Pacing is bad
>Everything moves along too fast
>It's too short
>This episode was at least thirty minutes shorter than the first one

Mfw disappointed with episode 2.
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>>86418669
Cause it's Telltale.

They shatter the writing curve....sometimes
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>>86420250
Fallout went to shit the second they normieized it, with New Vegas taken before it's time.
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>>86424565
the first and last episodes are the longest episodes in telltale games
you have only yourself to blame for that disappointment
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>Hurt Falconne. Fuck him he's nothing but a criminal scumbag.
>Didn't kiss Selina. I don't like Selina. She's a criminal who should be behind bars and she scratched my face.
>Visit the Mayor as Batman. My Batman gets shit done and doesn't care about public opinion.
>Keep funding Harvey. Harvey needs to get elected and it's not his fault the Wayne family is toxic right now.
>Save Harvey. Again I don't like Selina so why would I save her over my bro?
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>>86424927
What happens if you save Harvey?
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>>86420535
It puts them into question, which they talk about in the game. That's what makes it interesting. We'll see how it gets resolved over the next three episodes.
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>>86418669
That's really not that revolutionary.
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Harvey gets away with a black eye and some minor facial scaring. Catwoman gets shot in the shoulder but manages to escape. Still seems like she wants to fuck you, judging from my ep 3 trailer.
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>>86423954
I gave Vicki the evidence in episode one. She's supposed to mention it in episode two, but she didn't for me. That kind of pissed me off.
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>>86425156
Catwoman takes a shotgun to the chest but is okay
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>>86418669
>his dad being in league with Falcone and assassinated because of it
that was already a thing in Gotham
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What they're doing with the Wayne's is shitty. They're attempting to "make their own" Batman story, as they've said many times, and it's a bit insulting to have to sit through it. On top of that, Troy Baker still isn't a good Bats.

The one good thing about this series is how they're handling Bruce and Selina's relationship/romance though. I think it's very charming, and though I would have preferred Delisle, Bailey is not a bad Selina. It's odd, I feel like Travis Willingham (Dent's VA) would've been a better Bruce and they could've used he and his wife's (Bailey) banter to make the CatBat shit feel more authentic, seems like an odd choice to just use Troy because he's Troy.
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>>86425652
We don't really know how the the story with the Waynes is going to end. I'm intrigued so far.
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Do you get to fuck the reporter? Purchasing these games is contingent on being able to fuck her.
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>>86425734
They've been vague about it, but it sounds like Vicki is going to be an option if you've sided with her. Though they've also said that it'll be between her and Selina.
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>>86425442
>but is okay

How the fuck would she be okay from that? Also,

Does Harvey's face still get burnt if you save him?
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>>86419104
I'm leaning towards Scarecrow or Anarky
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>>86425821
Nice. I'll just wait and see how the next few chapters pan out and get the bunldle after the final one, probably.
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>>86418669
I haven't played the game yet, but I'm really interested to see where things go because of that twist.

The idea for Batman started when he was a kid and sprung from his childhood vow to fight all crime because it took his good and innocent parents from him. It a very basic and childlike way to deal with loss, even when he follows through with it into adulthood.

Having him grow up and be smart, inquisitive, and mature enough to look at his parents and realize that they were white collar criminals and not the perfect saints he always thought they were has the potential to be a lame twist, and I think most writers realize this (Morrison and Snyder teased that the Waynes were sketchy in their runs before having Batman dismiss it as a villain's trick).

But if they have him accept what his parents were and try to fix their mistakes and crimes by fighting for what he thought they stood for instead of having him angst over it before deciding that it doesn't matter? That could be really interesting. By mostly taking away the right for Batman to be vengeful, they could use it to strengthen his sense of justice.

At the very least, having Batman go from "I will avenge their deaths" to "I will right their wrongs" over the course of a story is a bold choice that I don't think they've done yet.
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>>86425156
>>86425291

Oh shit; I figured she was in more danger, and I had dragged her into this (and the whole on-again-off-again romance) so had better stop the gunmen. Did... did I just take part in a genuine choice, with the actual consequence being Two-Face existing in this continuity, because of a nice ass?
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>>86425948

It's Scarecrow. They did that stupid 'scare/discscratch noise' and jerked the cam on his final face shot, and this chemical is practically an early variant of the sort of chemicals he uses for fear later.
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>>86422988
>That Paul Sloane reference
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>>86425992
Same I thought saving Harvey would somehow cause him to be Two Face anyway. I didn't expect consequences from a Telltale game. Are all my other decisions from the last episode going to bite me in the ass too? Because I've been playing it as TDR Bruce.
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>>86421692
Ease Falcone's pain

Try to kiss Selina

Visit as Bruce

Keep funding Harvey

Save Selina

Only the last one was a really hard choice.
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>>86426124

I saw the hot lamp and figured, this being Telltale, the variation would be tiny. So i decided to raise my chances of getting a scene of dat Cat ass naked later. That said, I don't regret my decision. Two-Face needs to exist. And even from Bats point of view, Catwoman was in the most dangerous situation; three gunmen and a concussed Cat, and a skinny guy wielding a lamp versus a massive unconcussed guy like Harvey.

>tfw you are totally self justifying saving the pussy cat.
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>>86418669
Literally the same story beat as Earth 2 and Batman RIP, you're a filthy, dumb casual and TT games with TT game level writing is what your philistine ass deserves.
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>>86426096
I didn't even pick up on that. Good catch.
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>>86426360
That was revealed to be fake with Batman RIP, wasn't it? I guess we'll just see if Telltale sticks with this direction or not.
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>>86426360

Does being a filthy dumb casual mean I get to actually enjoy things? Because in that case I embrace it. I'm loving this game so far. It's a fucking great month for capeshit. This, Ghost Rider on AoS, Gotham, and then Luke Cage in just over a week.
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>>86426325
I figured much the same. Harvey is going to end up turning on Bruce in the end, and I was the one who dragged Catwoman into it, so I had to save her first.

Was kind of expecting Harvey to still get the Two-Face makeover regardless.

Overall it was pretty damn good throughout.
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>>86426419
>revealed to be fake with Batman RIP
there goes my interest.
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>>86426436
No, being a filthy dumb casual means you have to limit yourself and your enjoyment to lowest common denominator garbage like Agents of Shield and fucking Gotham. Read some books, get a clue.
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>>86426470
Why not enjoy both?
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>>86426470
But as soon as something has good writing, people start to like it which makes it casual filth.
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>>86426489
I do, you don't because you're dumb as fuck and destined to eat cheap ready-made spaghetti with ketchup as sauce.
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>>86426513
That's fine, as long as it's not dumb casual filth, like TT games (keep in mind this guy literally, unironically, watches Gotham and AoS, he's below most /co/mblerites with Steven Universe and what have you).
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>>86426516

Aw, babbys first troll. Ain't it cute fellas?
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>>86426516
There's nothing wrong with using Ketchup as sauce
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>>86426545
>That's fine, as long as it's not dumb casual filth
I usually take this to mean "anything I don't like." Or at least "a thing liked by people I don't like."
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>>86426545

I also liked Daredevil (the movie), Jessica Jones (both /co/ and Netflix), and think Gotham is amazing. I love Better Call Saul and prefer it to Breaking Bad.
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>>86426601
Not surprising this is your level or reading comprehension, you're CW's target audience after all.

>>86426613
LOL (lots of laughs) you like Breaking Bad at all. Ever heard of Carnivale, kid?
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>>86426655

Eh, sorry man, no fun to be had with me. I accepted my taste was 'pleb' a long time ago, when I realised I tended to like films that get critic'd the fuck out of cinemas. Hell, the only cape film I've actively disliked in the last decade was Dark Knight Rises.
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>>86426745
That's fine, just don't give opinions on things anymore, especially writing.
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>>86421692
Choked Falcone. Don't you dare talk about my father!

Tried to go for the post-fight booty. Tried.

Went as Batman. As delicately as possible, on Alfred's insistence.

Kept supporting Harvey. Friendship's all Bruce has got at this point.

Panicked and saved Selina. Reasoned that an extra vigilante could make things easier later on.

I'm not sure if I'm trying to play Bruce as someone who's struggling to keep his legacy and friends together, and morally slipping in the progress, or just going full ASBAR. I went for nearly every violent choice in the first episode, so...
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>>86426868

If they play the criminal Waynes angle straight, and the video wasn't fabricated, Bruce is going to become the mask and Batman the reality. I always preferred it that way anyhow.
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>>86425908
Nope, it's all good.
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So who's this Children of arkham I've heard about? I've not played the game yet, don't mind spoilers.
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>>86427182
Alfred's evil twin
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>>86427182
A group working for Penguin and some masked mastermind that want to expose Thomas Wayne and Gotham's government for committing innocent people to Arkham and probably doing experiments in general.
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>>86426928
I do like the fact that they seem to be going in a drastically different route than most lore by putting Thomas in such a bad light. It's like the DCEU - which I flip-flop back and forth on - at first glance a lot of the creative choices are objectionable, but what's there is interesting and unique.
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>>86418669
That's already a story comics have done.
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>>86421692

>Ease Falcone’s pain with morphine medication
>Tried to kiss Selina
>Visit Mayor Hill as Bruce Wayne
>Kept funding
>Saved Harvey

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>>86425948
>>86426046
I think it is Scarcrow, but I'm hesitant to think Crane is under the mask.

The way they drag the Wayne family through the mud makes me me think he might be a family member or family friend.

Buuuut they did off handedly mention Joe Chill was stabbed in prison and bled out, that makes me think it'll be him. His motivation? Hill, Falcone, and Thomas Wayne fucked him over? I dunno.
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>>86418669
I like it. The idea that the Waynes, who if you are fans of the comics bring about feelings of integrity and honor and subverting it like this almost gives me my own chip on the shoulder. Like as Bruce do I even want this money anymore? Does this invalidate what I do every night or does it change nothing? Does it even strengthen my longing to save Gotham knowing my family had such a heavy hand in it becoming the way it is?

Alfred had Thomas killed.
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>>86421692
Ease pain[\spoiler]
kissed[\spoiler]
Went as Bruce[\spoiler]
Backed Harvey[\spoiler]
Saved Harvey[\spoiler]
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>>86431299
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>>86426317

MY NIGGA.

I made all the same choices.
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Is there any reason NOT to keep funding Harvey? I mean, what's the downside? That Mr. Wayne will be down a week's pocket change?
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I'm thinking the Children of Arkham dude will either end up being, if not an established villain like Scarecrow, then Vicki Vale or Harvey Dent with a really bad case of split personality.
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>>86431749
To get Hill to open up or be an offended faggot when he says he wants to back away
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>>86431749
I think that the media might call bullshit on Dent backing off of Bruce but still taking his money
>>86431807
>Vale
Wew i hope so
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>>86418669
You're telling me that Telltale straight up rewriting Nolan's Dark Knight movie isn't lazy garbage.

The Penguin is Ledger's Joker without the makeup.

Catwoman is Rachel Dawes

And well Dent is Dent.

Laziest fucking writers ever.
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>>86432818
Except he still turns into two face either way and Catwoman lives either way. So it's not like that at all and you are a retard.
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>>86432818
>having Dent means it's copying The Dark Knight
>implying Rachel fought side by side with Batman and stole from him
>Implying that all anarchist batman villains are Heath ledger's Joker
I'm more shocked you didn't say they're copying Batman Returns with your flawless logic
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The PAX West crowdplay of episode 2 gave us a vengeful, horny batman.

It was entertaining and surprising enough to sell me on buying the game.

... And then they have us all season passes for it just for coming to the panel. My wife even got an extra one somehow.
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>>86433111
the 1's confirm it, they dicked your wife
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Alfred had something to do with the Waynes murders. Calling it now.

Screencap this.

Bitches.
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So who was that one thug that Penguin kept sending after you? Was that supposed to be Waylon Jones,Grundy or just some donut steel OC?
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>>86433329
Bullshit OC. This ep was not worth the $5
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>>86433253
Too late >>86431299
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>>86433401
No it wasnt you stupid fuck it was Blockbuster.
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>>86433253
The butler did it? Preposterous!
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>>86431807
It's totally Scarecrow. They're both all skinny.
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>>86425652
It's especially weird considering Troy is best Dent.
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>>86433329
Blockbuster. The Roland Desmond version. My guess is his brother, Mark (the original Blockbuster) made the formula that gave him the enhanced strength and is working with the Children of Arkham. We'll probably encounter him later.
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This story is going some new, strange places. How long until they give up on trying to do something different and just slap the Joker all over it?
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>>86434116
I fucking am praying not. Every other fucking story is the Joker, he's a good villain, easily one of Batman's best if not the best but even if he is the best is overrated.

>ywn see a live action batman trilogy without the Joker somewhere
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>>86434165
Would be nice to have a good Riddler for once.
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>>86434193
It really would
tbqh i would like to see some B and C tier villains get the spot light Batman Eternal would hold a place in my heart if it wasn't for fucking up the ending, if you didn't read it; it was literally a New 52 Batman: Hush but with a B-tier villain.
The whole point of the story was about how comics are forgetting anything that isn't completely popular for something new that will be forgotten

It was Cluemaster who was behind it all but they fucked it up by having Talon kill him right when he made his reveal It made sense on a thematic level but there was no build up to that which fucked it up.
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>>86434273
>Cluemaster
WHO?
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>>86434289
Forgotten Batman villain that left Clues at all his crimes, unlike the Riddler who leaves riddles
I thought it was clever because it was so obvious but i didn't expect it still because he was B-tier as fuck
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>>86423527
He goes full terror on the old man
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mvxoz5DSQp8
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>>86418669
>that flipped it on it's head
>muh ebin twist
Not really what makes a good comic. What is great about this game is how they've connected Bruce Wayne and Batman, and made both personas interesting.

Or how they are using the politics of Gotham to drive a story.

Those are the great things that I'd like to see more of in the comics.
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Oh fuck I left on that name I was using to mock namefags.

I've become that which I hate.
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>>86431299
>>86433253

>Alfred had Thomas killed.

Didn't Hill confessed he sent Chill after Thomas when he was threatened by Penguin?
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>>86431299

It changes nothing, except perhaps giving the Batman more motivation (cleaning up after his family).
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>>86435388
Ok.
Alfred had Joe Chill killed.
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>There are people who didn't save Selina

You don't deserve the cowl.
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I noticed there was a timer on the Selina/Harvey. Anyone know what happens if you just wait it out?
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>>86437567
B-but let's put a DENT in crime!
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>>86437567
>He doesn't want to Make Gothem Great Again
why would you go for short term pussy over MGGA?
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>>86419391

>It is trying way too hard to be like " Whoa , didn't see THAT coming" and it's more shock value then it is good writing.

I imagine it must be terrible being you.
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>>86437567
seriously even harvey is drugged
he still wants gotham to be great
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>>86440265
What if he wasn't drugged? What if it was all for show on his part?
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>>86440282
His lips turned blue though.
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>>86440290
I didn't notice that
MGGA
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>OP genuinely thinks comics have shitty writing because they don't resort to dumb twists
I have news for you OP, comics do indeed have dumb twists
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>>86425598
This
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>>86440712
>implying you even read OPs post
He was talking about how changing batman at his core versus making him a fagnigger is better. He's not wrong, look at Supergook
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>>86418669
they should show it more often, they should show Batman being a hero because he believes in it not because of having to live up to his parents
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>>86440845
They also should give Bruce more focus, he's pretty interesting here
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>>86418669
and yet they still censored Catwoman to appease sjws

glad I didn´t waste money on it
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>>86440912
literally how?
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>>86440952
Don't mind the autist. He's just throwing a fit because her cleavage is zipped up and not like the Arkham games.

Nevermind that she keeps her outfit zipped up most of the time anyway.
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>>86441487
/co/ and /v/ cry censorship every time a waifu isn't half naked, i honestly don't get it
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>>86431111

What if chill and crane are siblings this time around?
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>>86418669
whart the hell it is
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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