Do you ever wonder why Marvel allowed this to go print as-is?

Magneto had mjlonir (sp?)?!

>>86355870

It played 0 factor in the story and plot.

>>86355870
Was it ever explained why Mjolnir has the classic appearance and not the ax/hammer combo?

>>86355686
Because Loeb's dead son wanted Blob to eat Wasp.

>>86355906
Because the artist never read Ultimates.

>>86355906
>Was it ever explained why Mjolnir has the classic appearance and not the ax/hammer combo?

Yes - Axe/Hammer Mjolnir was a tech construct, while Hammer-Mjolnir was magical and tied to Odin and The World Tree.

That was Hickman's retcon, anyway.

>>86355924
I dont know why this made me laugh out loud.

>>86355924
Man fuck that panel

>>86355975
>I dont know why this made me laugh out loud.

It's funny because it's true.

>>86355686
The entire thing was Loeb telling everybody how much he wanted to die to bring his son back

Would you tell Loeb to cut that shit out and not print it

>>86355966
It's actually explained in Ultimates 3 why Thor acts differently and why the hammer is the way it is. Thor says he no longer feels the need to pretend to be a hippie and you see the battle axe Mjolnir in his armory. People like to bitch and moan about it regardless.

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>>86355686

Apparently Marvel wanted Loeb to shake things up. So he did. Killing half the heroes and villains in a universe where death is permanent outside a few times it was cheated.

The thing about Ultimatum is that it was supposed to just be a crossover between Ultimates and X-Men or UXM and UFF, doesn't really matter either way. Then Bendis got the idea to make it bigger, Mark Millar helped flesh it out with editorial, and then Loeb had to write it. Should it have been better? Absolutely, but Loeb isn't the only person in the blame here. As far as I'm concerned it's equally Millar, Bendis, Mark Paniccia, Ralph Macchio, Lauren Sankovitch, and Lauren Henry's fault.

>>86355686
Civil War was big at the time, and Marvel editorial was more focused on the mainstream books than the Ultimate line.

Cracks had been appearing for years, this was just the thing that broke the floodgates. Ultimates never recovered.

>>86358771
I don't blame Loeb at all. They knew well enough that he'd gone off the deep end already.

>>86358286
None of this matters.

>>86358286
>Daredevil drowned offpanel
Man Marvel just did not give a single fuck about Ultimate by this point, did they? I'm honestly surprised it managed to survive another six years.