moana thread

>>86293358
Looks a lot better than Frozen. Hopefully the story will be better as well.

As long as The Rock sings I'm going.

Can't wait. I need something pretty,fun and optimistic.

Ok but who is the villain?

A disney film without a villain usually fades into nothingness

Just remember BRAVE

I want to marry that water.
>a lot farther the it looks
Heh.

>>86293795
That giant monster they were fighting i guess.

>>86293795
>Brave
>Disney film

This looks so great like Zootopia and far better than Frozen. Seriously.

>>86293795
It's probably the giant lava monster they keep showing.

>>86293795
>who is the villain?
White people.

>>86293795
The villain is actually the chicken

>>86293795
>>86294019
In the Polinesian myths, Maui always appears to fight gods that abuse or treat mankind unfairly. If it's the lava monster,then maybe is in a fact a volcanic deity.

I haven't been excited about a Disney movie since I was a kid. This one actually looks good.

>>86293795

Brave was fucked by exec meddling, the villains have been great in the recent Disney wave

>>86294204
>Disney villains
>great
kek

>>86294237

Good post!

Isn't the lava monster Pele? It's weird that they haven't mentioned anyone voicing her though. I guess she either doesn't talk, or she's actually voiced by Philippa Soo, and her playing a villager is just a diversion.

>>86294019
>>86294191
>>86293795
Yeah, it's probably Pele that's the villain of this thing.

The villain is Maui.

>>86294410
Or Ron and John are jumping on the bandwagon of every Disney movie made since Wreck It Ralph (even Pooh 2011, I'm counting Owl as the tweest villain of that) and we get a third act twist that said villager is just Pele in human form

>>86293795
Shut up pleb. Brave was great.

I'm going to marry that water.

>>86294204
>Brave was fucked by exec meddling
Keep telling yourself that.

>>86293795
Brave's problem wasn't that it lacked a villain.

Finding Nemo had no villain.

>>86294555
Going off of what little I know of both Pele and Moana's plot. Pele, in a few versions of her story, gets banished and fucks off to eventually add volcanos to Hawaii, after Maui had already pulled up the mountains from under the ocean. One of Pele's sisters is supposed to be a sea goddess, so maybe that sister is the one who has chose Moana for whatever reason. And Pele is pissed because family drama.

>>86294646
>>86294670
I don't understand this. What the hell is your problem with Brave guys?

>>86294707
It suffered from a very unfocused story. The central conflict doesn't appear until like halfway through the movie, and the villain has no thematic connection to the story - He's only there to create an action scene for the climax.

The opening and ending narration contrasting with everything else make it clear that the movie suffered a lot of changes late in the process, and didn't know what it wanted to be about.

>>86293358
.......... meh

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>>86294646

The writer and director who pitched the film and wrote it about her relationship with her on daughter was forced off the project halfway through and then left Pixar forever.

What do you call that, a great time all around?

>>86294680
>all these goods and demigods
This movie looks very interesting.

The villains are the lava witch and the coconut pirates.

>It's the cute thing is actually vicious trope.
Boooooooo.......

>>86294765
Plus she was so burned by Disney that after she left Pixar, she went over to Lucasfilm Animation and immediately quit when Disney bought them out.

Now she's over at Dreamworks again.

>>86294707
I didn't mind Brave at all. It's not Pixar's best, but it still rungs above their worst.

But Brenda Chapman conspiracy fans are fucked in the head.

>>86294816
There's also a Giant Enemy Crab in the Realm of Monsters

>>86293358
Still not feeling it so far, but I'm interested enough to give it a chance

Please Disney Animation, do it right this time please please.

PLEASE

I'm referring to princess' movies b t w, Zootopia was good.

>>86293358
>tfw we get a Moana world in KH before a legit Lilo and Stitch Hawaii
I'll be slightly disappointed

>>86294980
Honestly, I'd prefer Lilo and Stitch Hawaii being merged with the Destiny Islands and making the Pelekais Sora's neighbors or something.

>>86295002
>Honestly, I'd prefer Lilo and Stitch Hawaii being merged with the Destiny Islands
I don't know if I feel that. The Destiny Islands are unrelated to other worlds in the same vein that Twilight Town and Traverse Town are. I think they should stay that way.

>>86294904
What do you mean, "do it right"?
Do what right? Hit what note?

>>86295121

i think he means most of the princess movies are either overrated (frozen), disappointing(patf) or underwheliming (tangled)

>>86295121
THIS >>86295147
Every word of that post.

>>86295147
Well, that's just very vague and subjective judgement.
And it gives no indication of how one would go about the business of doing it right.

>Tumblr on Maui as a fat stereotype.

>Not knowing about Peter Maivia, Dwyane Johnson grandfather.

Maui looks a lot like him.

>>86294980
Oh my god. I'm going to flip my shit if we get Moana instead of Lilo & Stitch Hawaii. That would be a low blow...I'm doubtful though, since they practically set up for Lilo & Stitch in KH3 with the ending to Deep Space in BBS.

>>86295228
He isn't even fat. He's silly strongly built.

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i'm glad they downplayed the "rivalry" betwen Maui and Moana , hopefully it won't be the focus of the movie.

but that fucking chicken, jesus, what cringe.
>in the early version hei hei was a very angry rooster, in the final version he's just really really stupid.

>>86295250
Right he's built like a wrestler

that water must be so painful to render

>>86293358
I'm glad the color pallet seems pretty varied compared to Frozen's winter wonderland for most of that film.

>>86295344
With all these movies this year we are beholding the era of animated kino.

>>86293795
>Ok but who is the villain?
The one who looks helpful and friendly the most, and certainly not the lava monster.

>>86293795
It's gonna be a shitty twist villain like the last 4 years of Disney and Pixar films.

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BJ LIPS

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>>86295378

it's... water, then.

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I might have to buy the Moana doll. She looks so fucking good.

>>86293358
Giving away a little too much in this trailer for my liking, but I'm still very much going to see this movie.

>>86293795
Brave was Pixar's attempt at a Disney-esque Princess story.

Too much executive meddling and a mid-production director replacement messed up the flow of the story.

That being said, I'm hoping the villain is just nature or whatever.

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>animal sidekick that behaves like a dog/puppy

check!

>>86295461
>Giving away a little too much in this trailer for my liking

How is this for you: https://youtu.be/WgOv6RxbfKw

>>86293358
>I'm not going on a mission with a little girl
there it is

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>>86295453

i really dig these toys, they look detailed and accurate.

>>86293795
>A disney film without a villain usually fades into nothingness
What is Winnie the Pooh

>>86295510
Well since it ALREADY looked like the biggest piece of shit in years, this just confirmed it!

>>86295567

dude, that's not SING.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDQizlFzVdA

>>86293795
>>86295378
>>86295392

I don't think so. My guess is Pele (the volcano goddess) is going to be the "villain", but along the movie we'll see everything is more of a huge misunderstanding than anything else; they cannot go full Disney's Hercules and make a classical, really non-evil deity like Pele (and Hades,following the example given) as a threatening villain, mostly because nowadays hipersensibility on cultural topics, but also because the "absolutely evil big bad guy" narrative is obsolete,and relativism is a hot topic.

Also, Hades as a villain was easier than going with the original myth,with its jealous,madness inducing Hera. A god of death is more feasable as a villain,no matter how neutral it actually is.

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was Umaga a demigod?

Moana with her hair tied up looks ridiculously fuckable.

>>86295653
I would really like it if they face Pele and Moana just assumes Maui would meet her in battle, just for him to be bewildered by the thought and explaining how that's not all a viable solution. No, they have to calm her in order to prevent damage to humanity.

>>86295755
So I am not the only one who thinks she looks better with it tied.

Looks pretty fun

>>86294835

>quit company
>at least I can go to this other company and not back to fucking Dreamworks
>Disney buys company
>god damn it FUCK

So, she has ocean magic like Elsa had ice magic?

>>86295919

no, the ocean is another entity.

it's like you didnt see the japanese teaser

>>86293358
Moana is cute as hell, but it always bothers me how unimportant she seems in the trailers in comparison to Maui.

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>>86295755
Moana is CUTE

>>86295919
No, the ocean is just her fried. Which was pretty much stated word for word in the trailer.

>>86295799
Exactly; the stories I've read about Maui picture him more a like a trickster,ingenuous hero; he doesn't fear battle,but isn't fond of it either. My guess is Pele is annoyed by something, and eventually their mission would be calming her down by making things right.
And what you said,too; Maui is a mighty hero,but he's no match for a god in direct combat,and he knows that.

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>>86295996
CUTE

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>>86293358
>I'm still falling

>>86293358
Really excited for this. I love the tropical setting.

I was starting to doubt this since there has been no marketing before this month, but I'm glad they kind of delivered. Trailer looks good.

So she kind of has water powers? That's pretty cool

>>86296109
She does not have water powers. The water is her friend, it is another entity of it's own and she has no control over it at all.

>>86294013
This. I'm glad they're upping their game with the looks.

>>86294707
Merida could have poisoned her mother. I never liked that part

>>86294816
Aren't those coconut pirates real folk lore?

I mean, fae folk are sometimes tiny and cute, but most (if not all) are vicious, to say the least.

>>86296163
She was giving no shits to what that would to do her mother as long as she got what she wanted.

>>86296194
The Kakamora are a group of little people tricksters in some Polynesian lore (specifically of the Solomon Islands), but the coconut armor was something Disney came up with

>>86295147
>tfw you don't find Tangled underwhelming
idk, man. Something in that movie reached out to me

>>86296031
>>86296124
Maybe the ocean is possessed by the spirit of Elsa's parents. They drowned in it, right?

>>86295250
This. I wouldn't call him fat. It would be nice if fat people are like him (strong, athletic, etc), but no.

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>>86296244

feet?

>>86295958
Don't wanna scare away the male audience.

>>86295309
It's for the children. Just learn to roll with it, i guess

Hopefully, Zootopia will fuck FEEL THE ETHNIC Moana shitskin just like it fucked Finding Faggot Dory in box office.

Moana must fail if Zootopia is to survive

>>86295453
That is actually quite a surprising good doll. It actually looks like her.

>>86293358
Animal companion actually acts like its species, rather than just a dog. That's nice.

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>>86296332

"muh B movie" boogeyman.

all disney movies are equal, they just have different audiences, zootopia was for furries, moana is for common audience.

you got your "billion", what else do you want?

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>>86296332
Why can't we just be glad that we have hopefully two great animated films coming out?

>>86296194
>>86296232
I think it's pretty clever, actually.
>Kakamora are said to be brown-skinned and hairy
>Disney's Kakamora are, quite literally, brown-skinned and hairy

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>>86296430

>>86296332
Is this a cult thing

Are you in a cult

>>86296124
Yeah I got that from the trailer, but in a way she seemed to have an element at her side, so that's a pretty cool "power"

Either way, I'm liking it. One of the only two things I liked about Elsa was her powers anyway.

>>86294980
>>86295243
>Lilo and Stich Hawaii is connected to Moana's island in the same way as Disney Castle is connected to Timeless River
Would you dig it?

>>86296306
Nah I'm not a footfag. I don't understand the fetish.

"When will my life begin?" just hit me, man.

>>86296332
I fucking loved Zootopia, but I don't want to wish death to Moana. I am very excited fr this movie since I love the setting.

Zootopia had its success already anyway. And even though I think it deserves an award, I already made peace with myself that it won't get any.

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>>86296379

uhh, about that...

>>86295653
Also, it's hard as fuck to make Zeus as a cheating fucker sympathetic

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>>86296416
>for furries
That hurts, anon. I'm not a furry but I enjoyed that movie.

>>86296543
Stupid Sexy Pig

>>86296463
Speaking of coconuts, I'm glad the movie/trailer showed actual coconuts pre removal of the husk. I don't know why cartoons have coconuts only in their shells with a bit of fiber left.

>>86293358
>i'm not going on a mission with a little girl

this wasn't needed, this adds nothing to the movie, fuck off Disney

>>86295901
>We Alan Moore now

>>86296508
>"When will my life begin?" just hit me, man
I feel you.

>>86296668
That part felt like it was edited, it could be a different line in the actual movie.

>>86296668
Coming from a demi-god, I understand.

>>86296700
the line was most likely from another scene, but its still incredibly forced

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>blow dart in my buttcheek.really?

kids gonna love this one!

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now that's a poster!

>>86295309
>Moana doll has the dreamworks face

Why do they always do this

>>86293358
Oh wow that looks like shit

I was actually sorta looking forward to this but no thanks

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>>86296306
>>86296766
Why does the Moana costume come with shoes but Maui's doesnt'?

Also I hope we do see pic related in the film and it isn't scrapped concept art

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>>86296990

come on, that zoothink also had shitty trailers, but look how it turned out , 98% on RT! and over Billion dollars at the BO.

It's gonna be just as good.

>>86296288
Dude, if my body did that if I just sit around and eat donuts, then I would get fat in a heartbeat.

>>86296501
>Sora and co discuss plot-important matters in the foreground.
>In the background, Maui and Stitch play tug of war with the bone hook.

>>86297029
I don't recall thinking those were especially bad tbqh
I also don't recall seeing more than one, once, though

I'll be honest this isn't a good trailer at all. Then again I get they're trying to get the kids interested... I hope it's a much more serious film all around.

>>86295228
Tumblr dwellers,though loud and annoying defenders of all things non-white, don't really know a single thing about other ethnicities. To them,if it LOOKS like fat,then it MUST BE fat. That's how they work.

>>86297085
America always sucks with trailers, especially for animated films. Japanese teaser is the best thing out so far

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GBPymoyCjjc

>>86293358
Looks good but I hate the chicken.

>>86293358
Dear Disney,

Do you think it'd be possible for you to not fill awkward pauses up with cute animal side kick interactions, but with, I don't know, interesting literally anything from the human characters?

i can't remember where. but i remember reading somewhere that the water spirit/goddes that aids moana is actually tricking her to fight and defeat the lava monster/god(des)
the water one and the lava one keep each other in balance, but the water one wants to tip the scales and cover everything in water

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>Moana is unusual in being a female wayfinder, since most Polynesian wayfinders are males. During navigation it is important to be able to read the swells of the ocean, which is achieved by sitting cross-legged on the bottom of the boat and feel the movements of the waves in their testicles.


this is interesting,

>>86296838
That is one of the best posters i have seen in a while.

>>86297161
Sauce? 'cause that kinda confirms my theory here
>>86296059 and here >>86295653

>>86296543
To be fair. Pet pigs do act alot like dogs.

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>>86297161

that would be fifth time in a row. How about we stop that, Disney?

>>86297085
It shows off a lot of setpieces and the tone, so it is relatively effective.
It doesn't really show you much of what it's gonna be saying in the end, though, just flashes shit in your face to get your attention.
Which is not really a bad thing in my book.
We see what's in there, but we don't get the entire plot spelled out. And that is what I often hate in trailers. They almost make watching the movie redundant.
Here I feel there is a ton of things they will do with those setpieces so I have a reason to see it.

>>86296766
Is it that big an issue? Even Beauty & the Beast and Lion King had throwaway butt jokes.

>>86297123
Based Nippon

>>86297161
That wouldn't really work because Tangaroa the god of the sea in Polynesian myth is actually pretty timid.

Tāwhirimātea, god of Storms could be the "bad guy" because he hates the other gods for being cowards.

>>86297303
Jesus christ why would they make his tattoos reliëf

That looks so painful

>>86297281
And taste even better.

>>86297403
Tāwhirimātea makes alot of sense because Maui is a descendant of Tūmatauenga the Polynesian god of War and hunting whom is Tāwhirimātea's Nemesis.

Didn't most Polynesians walked naked with just tattoos covering their bodies before European colonization?

Polynesian women showed their boobs, the coconut bra was a European invention.

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>>86293358
>couldn't go one trailer without making a butt joke that totally interrupted the flow of the action

>>86293358
Missed opportunity to throw this in somewhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHaMgCbO8PI

And then have it cut to the second half.trailer.

I want to fuck the pig.

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Is this ... Yuri-baiting ... in my Polynesian epic?

>>86297123
Moana is cute! Cute!

>>86297805
No, now fuck off back to /frz/

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>>86297526


ending credits:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjvnjjaL1FQ

>>86297085
I personally found the teaser and the trailer to be okay. In fact, it made me interested with the movie because I like the look of the ocean and beach so much.

Frozen teaser was ass, especially when compared to this.

And I think the sidekicks and corny humor are there to reel in the children and families, since, let's face it, they are the main profit sources for this.

>>86297909
Man, remember Tangled's teaser? It had nothing to do with the film at all.
Sometimes misdirection can be a good thing.

>>86298033

there was a tangled teaser?

i liked watching movies without having any expectactions back then.

>>86295653
besides hera being a bitch to hercules.
you do remember the greeks had an actual 'evil' god that most of them hated

Ares

>>86298033
I don't remember watching Tangled's teaser, but I understand what you mean. Still, Frozen's teaser looked really bad, but it did make the final movie look a little better so I guess that's an achievement.

>>86297403
>Tāwhirimātea is bullying timid Tangaroa to go along with the former's plan
>at the end of the film, Moana calls out Tāwhirimātea for manipulating others instead of fighting himself - i.e. a coward.

I can this happening. The female MC gets to use the power of words against the big bad, friendships are forged, blah blah blah, cue typical Disney ending.

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>>86298083
>>86298145
Yeah, that's what I liked about them because they completely throw you off on what to expect.
I mean Frozen's full trailer was completely different from what I expected and even the Japanese version was even more different.

>>86298212

Ahhhh, this.

>>86297881
You know what, I wouldn't mind at all that the movie ends with Hawaiian Superman a a victory lap leading into the credits.

I'm not too excited for it, to be honest. There was a lot of humor in the trailer and none of it was funny to me, plus the idea of water being sentient is just odd to me.

Music does sound promising, though, and I'm willing to give th movie a fair chance. I may love it.

>>86298339

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin-Manuel_Miranda

that resume!

>>86297209
She's got a sensitive pearl doesn't she.

>>86297209
Moana hangs dong.

>>86293358
you can't spell Moana without "Moan"

you are now hearing her Moan, manually

>>86298339
>water being sentient
I thought it's just the goddess of water guiding/helping her

>>86296543
I see nothing strange about that. Ever raised a pig?

They are pretty close to a dog, only they roll around to keep their smell from getting to holy fuck levels of bad

>two not-alike-at-all protagonists find themselves in a position where they have to work together to save the world or whatever
>tons of snarky jokes and whitty remarks along the way
>there's even a tiny animal that'll serve as the designated punching bag

Wow I feel like I've already seen this movie.

Keep playing it safe, Disney.

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This is going to be the best character in the movie, calling it now. I can't wait to see the toys.

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>>86299199

if it's aint broke, why fix it?

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>>86299219

i wonder where do i put the battery.


Alan Tudyk is awesome

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>>86298339
Everything Musker and Clements has said about this has made it sound like it's a fairly serious film. Plus, one of the crew said that literally everyone in a test screening sobbed over a few different scenes towards the end. This is just marketing making it look like a silly adventuring movie, when it's not.

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>>86299402

guess Disney is getting better and better at these kind of movies.

I approve!

>>86293358
eh

Another serious women trying to prove her worth and silly guy sidekick guiding her.

The trailer was enough.

>>86293358
Is this story about the continent of Hawai?

>>86297123
is it just me or Jap language and Polynesian language sound really similar?
MOANA, MAUI, MURATA, MUSASHI

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>>86299679

it's going to be something better, bieleve me, no one expected Zootropolis to be about prejudice. Moana is going to find her true identity, it's a pretty vague description.

give it chance!

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>>86296838
That's a rad poster.

>>86298339
Isn't that the basic of every Disney trailer.

Remember how the Tangled and Frozen trailers put a strong focus on comedy over drama?

>>86299679
But that's every Disney Movie sense the Little Mermaid.
Every singe one.

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>>86300522

both are good.

>>86300571
Yeah even Inside Out and Zootopia where pretty much all action and jokes in the trailers.

>>86293358
This looks like crap. It's got that retarded chicken, Maui is straight out of a Dreamworks movie AND it's got Frozen's Trolls 2.0. With each successive trailer I am less enthused for this.

>>86296838
Was going to ask what the fuck is with the twin beams of light shooting out his dick then realized it was a photo of an actual poster.

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>the fucking water

>>86297209
>Polynesian wayfinders are males. During navigation it is important to be able to read the swells of the ocean, which is achieved by sitting cross-legged on the bottom of the boat and feel the movements of the waves in their testicles.

That's kind of hot.

>>86296060
>>86295996
Damn, Hair up Moana is sexy as hell.

>>86300050

One of the main theories about the origin of the Japanese language is that Japanese has a Austronesian (Polynesian, Malay) substrate and a Altaic (Korean, Mongol) superstrate.

>>86300621
Moana Moses?

>>86300621
>>86297303
She does have a bit of elsaface.

>>86303026
There have been edits showing how wrong that is. Her proportions far away from the Frozen characters.
It's just the same art style.

>>86303077
I meant the smug expression in some shots. But that's probably just generic Dreamworks face.

>>86293358
This movie looks gorgeous, visually, but writing-wise it looks like every generic Dreamworks movie from the early 2000's.

>>86303026
>>86303077
Yeah it's the art style.

I actually like how her nose is closer to a real-life pacific islander, she also has chubbier arms and stout legs. She has a wider face. She doesn't look lean and fragile like the Frozen girls.

I also noticed that the Frozen girls have a weird style with their forehead and noses--like the slope is much more profound.

What do you guys think of Moana's VA?

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>>86303357

she's shit, sorry

>>86303357
She doing well considering it's her first ever role.

>>86293358
Damn, this was full of spoilers I did not need/want to see.

>>86294765
>>86294204
>>86294707
>>86294835

What was the original story about?

>>86293358
>Cute Gril to sell dolls
>Cute little mofos to sell Toys

Okay Disney, You got me.

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>>86293358

>>86304334
Could the Kakamora be poised to become the next Minions?

>>86295250
>>86295336
>>86296288

You can be muscular and fat at the same time you know. He has 0 muscle definition, even with the high amount of muscle mass he has. If you checked his BMI, he would definitely fall within the fat range.

>>86306165
No.
They're too specialized.
Minions were designed to be applicable to everything and anything

>>86307704
They will be the new minions, you can bet on it.

>>86299219
I thought the sidekick was an adorable pig?
Dropped

>>86295510
>>86295642
I can't bring myself to watch either of these, just looking at the thumbnails.