Can you believe, after all these years, the real Superman is back?

>>86129353
Post-Crisis Superman is not Real Superman.

>>86129353
Golden Age Supes came back?

>>86129353
He's no more real than the new 52 superman or golden age superman

>>86129930
>>86130180
>>86130211
Post-Crisis Superman has had BY FAR the most material published out of any Superman. He also has by far the most iconic, beloved Superman stories. He is the version of Superman that all modern animated and film incarnations of the character have been based on. Golden Age Supes' defense of being first hardly compares to any of that. There is no measure by which Post-Crisis is not the main Superman. If such a thing as the "real" Superman existed, it would be him.

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>>86129353
There's too many versions of Superman, I can't even tell who's supposed to be the "real" Superman anymore.

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>>86130409
>he can't keep up with canon

>>86130180
Golden Age Superman and Golden Age Lois' corpses were revived by Dr. Manhattan and turned into New 52 Superman and Lois since pre new 52 Superman and Lois were absent from the Earth when the reboot hit because of convergence.

>>86130339
OK, Byrne. You can go back to your forum now.

>>86130409
they all are anon

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>No trunks
>Real Superman

>>86130663
We are all Superman.

>>86130594
Wait... what???

>>86130594
Nice speculation, you fooled one person

>>86130725
oh no sir we are not. we are not good enough yet.

>>86129353
Come on, DC. You must have noticed your artists WANT to draw the red trunks again.

>>86129353
The nu52 Superman was worth reading also. We didn't need to kill him to also have this one, you know. We could have had both

>>86130748
The prevailing theory is that New 52 Superman was Kal-L and New 52 Lois Lane was pre-crisis Earth-2 Lois. Just rebooted into the roles of New 52 Superman and Lois since post-Crisis Supes and Lois weren't in their universe when the reboot hit whereas the bodies of pre-crisis E2 Clark and Lois were.

>>86130594
It's actually Superboy Prime (it was leaked). Yes, Nu52 Superman was so terrible that he was actually Superboy Prime.

>>86132111
That'd be a tad too insulting to New 52 Superman fans.

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>>86131968
>The nu52 Superman was worth reading also
Nu52 Superman was terrible. He was so terrible that it drove away die-hard fans like Linkara and Rich Johnston.

>>86132227
>New 52 Superman fans
Oh no! All ten of them will be angry? Whatever will DC do???!!!!!!

>>86132253
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>>86132111
OK, you can stop shitposting now.

>>86129353
>>86132253
It's funny. You would think putting Nu52 Superman in the hands of writers like Morrison, Pak, and Johns would make him popular. Guess some writers aren't perfect.

>>86132367
It's not shitposting if it's true, senpai baraka

>>86132420
What is wrong with N52 Superman characterization?

>>86132498
He's unlikable, violent, a bully, and doesn't inspire others.

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>>86132253
Just look at how Fun nu52 Superman is.

>>86132670
>Unlikeable
I like him

>>86132670
>unlikable
No he wasn't
>violent
And post Crisis Superman wasn't?
>doesn't inspire others
Yes he did.

>>86132670
Sounds like rebirth Superman.

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>>86131997
>fan theories
Not even once.

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>>86129353
I literally cried at this page. It feels so good to finally have the real Superman back after being gone for so many years.

I just wish DC would give him his shorts back.

>>86132367
It's true though. Someone leaked it in a thread. Superboy Prime (aka Superbitch Prime) is Nu52 Superman.

>>86133600
Then who was lois?

>>86132950
Shit I gotta know the context of this page

>>86129353
I wish Marvel would do the same thing for Spider-Man. I.e get rid of the current Spider-Man and replace him with the REAL Spider-Man (whose Married to te REAL MJ and has a kid). Also get rid of Slott.

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>edgy

>>86133632
No one important since the real Lois is back.

As much as I enjoyed new 52 supes, if you lame "not muh supes" guys are actually buying the books, it's good for all Superman fans at the end of the day.

>>86129353
Silver Age Superman? Please come back to us. Alan Moore destroyed him.

>>86130725
>>86130796
If you seek his monument, look around you.

>>86129353

How will they give current Supes the Kryptonite weakness if he isn't native to the New52 universe?

>>86133736
It wasn't then he wouldn't be have killed-off/depowered/retconned-to-SuperboyPrime while they brought back the REAL Superman.

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>>86132253
>linkara
ohitsfuckingnothing.jpg

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>>86133803
you mean how new 52 Superman sold more than post-crisis and the only reason Superman is selling more is rebirth hype?
I mean look at this edgy monster

I've never seen someone as salty as this guy posting out of context pages.

Screw America tbqh

>>86133791
You can't deny BvS has a lot of quotable lines
Shame about the movie

>>86133887
Kaepernick please. Go sit down on the bench.

>>86129353
Reminds me of his convergence issue when everyone was freaking out going "HE'S BACK!"

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>>86133922

FACT: Superman #6 is the best Superman comic this decade

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>>86132498
The biggest mistake was shipping him with Wonder Woman. He probably could have been saved from Death/Depowerment if he was with her sooner. But they dragged out the Diana romance for too long.

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>>86134020
reminder this happening while he was powerless

I don't see how any of these new 52 images is edgier than him threatening to glass the earth just to make elementals shut up.

But hey since Post Crisis Superman is back that means he's going to save Imperiex from being dead right? After all, "Superman doesn't kill".

>>86129353
But he's not real. There is no real Superman, they're all just characters. None of those stories ever happened.
If I'm wrong, then may this post number end in 52.

>>86134073
its funny how post-crisis
supes never helped in darkseid war, forever evil, Superdoom, and that evil kryptonian dude. Or his first forray where he took his mantle back assaulted superlex unprovoked and started a fight.

>>86134153
Anon, there's always another way. His way was to lounge around and let superman handle things.

>>86134117
gentry pls

>>86133681
Superman reflecting on his past where he took pleasure in hurting a nazi hate group. He later regretted it.

>>86132253
>>86132760
>>86132852
>>86132950
>>86133091
>>86133221
>>86133294
NEW 52 SUPERMAN HAD HIS CHANCE!

>>86133907
I like it, but I can understand why other people don't. Still, the grandiose dialogue in both Snyder films allows for many quotable moments, which I think was intended.

>>86134073
This is basically a war of not muh
Trust me, in a decade or so when Superman story is shit again and they bring Superbro back, we'll be the one shitposting

>>86134482
I really don't have a "muh Superman" anon. Just pointing out the stupidity that people going "muh supes!" have.

All these versions of Superman are the real deal, because they are all each of them the ones that the folks of DC deem as canon and true at the time of their publication.

>>86134028
On so many levels the WWxSM serves as an excelent vacuum-example of the basic issues with nu52 as a whole.

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I really REALLY like Superdad.

>>86134845
This artist desperately wanted to draw the trunks, who at DC has something against the trunks?

>>86130409
The real Superman is the one that shows up in Superman Appreciation threads.
The fake Supermen are the ones that DCEU moviefags defend.

>>86129353
Yeah and he is boring as fuck

>>86134845
>>86135619
If they brought back the trunks, but made them black, would that be an acceptable compromise?

>>86135619
A whole bunch of artists keep doing this. And the red boots. But Didio thinks it's gay.

>>86130339
>He also has by far the most iconic, beloved Superman stories.

>Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow
>For the Man Who Has Everything
>Kingdom Come
>All-Star Superman
>Red Son

None of those have Post-Crisis Superman.

>>86129353
This page will be perfect if he had the trunks. Soon enough the will be back though, and antitrunksfags will cry.

All this memeing about The Real Superman™ is just exhausting.

>>86132760
Greg Pak's heartbreakingly short run, full of annoying crossovers and other writers taking over his stories, is only a reason to stop reading DC comics rather then to check them out

>>86137345
Good thing the amount of beloved post-Crisis Superman stories outnumbers that very short list. Don't play games with me, boy.

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>>86130339
>Talks shit about Golden Age Supes
>Image in OP is blantant ripoff of the Golden Age Supes

Post Crisis fags continue to be uneducated Batfags that falseflag as Superman fans.

>>86137850
Wait what does that have to do with Batman?

>>86137850
are you actually this insecure or just retarded?

>>86133511
>It feels so good to finally have the real Superman back after being gone for so many years.

Oh fuck off cunt. The real Superman has been back for a year now.

>>86133864

He's done this multiple times. It's really pathetic

>>86133958

American Alien was better

So....I didnt dislike NuSupes, but boy, am I really , really happy MUH Superman, post-crisis Clark&Lois Married, Happy Family, Living Inspiration Superman is back...and now he's a dad?

The new 6 issues of Superman are fucking amazing. From beginning to end,Superdad abd son. Oh, and it ends with Batman being a jerkface. It's just a moonbase, dork.

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>>86135619
>who at DC has something against the trunks?

Warner Brothers

Reminder: normal people all think it's been the same superman for 75 years

>>86139637
Ah, but my generation really, really likes the whole "Superman has a son", thing. It resonates somehow. Maybe it's because the generation that grew up with post crisis supes has kids now?

Dont know.

Superdad is tops, though.

>>86139662
Heh normies are so dumb. It's funny.

>>86130339
>He also has by far the most iconic, beloved Superman stories.
Only thing memorable are Busiek/Johns runs, both were cut short. Bait better next time, faggot.

>>86134028

You went from...

>Superman who's married to Lois Lane
>Superman who has his mother
>Superman who has a nice relationship with his cousin and clone
>Superman who has Krypto
>Superman who has a job and human friends

... to a...

>Superman who's alone feeling sorry for himself while Lois fucks another guy
>Superman who lost both his parents and gave away his Smallville farm
>Superman who has a troubled relationship with his cousin and doesn't know about his clone (he later met the clone but fuck Scott Lobdell's Kon-El anyway)
>Superman who never met Krypto because he's stuck in the Phantom Zone (Krypto came back but then after it they did nothing with it)
>Superman that got fired from the Daily Planet

So no wonder people didn't liked it. If it wasn't for Greg Pak and his attempts to try and ground Superman a bit by constantly bringing Lana we would have a 24/7 Superman who's fucking Wonder Woman and only hangs with the Justice League.

>>86139666

But I grew up with Post Crisis Supes and I have two boys now. I just think American Alien was a better written story and didn't have fuck ups like seeing the moon from the moon. I am really loving Superdad though and think it's a great direction to take Superman in the long term

>>86139755
Well, dont get me wrong, American Alien is also exellently written, I enjoyed it too. I also agree, they can probably milk a few decades out of Superdad and Son for a few decades before the inevitable 'reyoungify' reboot.

>>86134482
Kek, amen my man.

>>86139755
>I just think American Alien was a better written story and didn't have fuck ups like seeing the moon from the moon. I am really loving Superdad though and think it's a great direction to take Superman in the long term
I feel the same way.

>>86139754
>Superman that got fired from the Daily Planet
He quit.

>>86139660
>the same people that let Zack 'the hack' Snyder make realistic dark and gritty Superman movies
Johns should tell them to shove it up their asses. Trunks back or he walks.

>>86134061
A broken watch is right twice in a day

>>86135742
Confirmed for not-a-dad, aka the greatest adventure

>>86141300
Drink bleach, trunksfags.

>>86129353
>no shorts
Imposter, don't believe his lies /co/.

>>86129353
Superbro was better. He was a real human bean.

Who the fuck cares, they're still sidelining Krypto.

>>86133091
>somebody SAAAAVVEEE me
subtle

>>86141763

No they aren't. Krypto is going with Superman and Superboy to fight dinosaurs.

>>86132670
Your talking shit.

>>86142717
>Started watching Smallville last night
>See thus

Huh

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>>86129353
>No trunks

>>86132950

I like how people keep posting this as if it were a condemnation of 52supes. Fucking A, I want my superheroes to make nazi fucks cry.

>>86133600
>It's true though.

/co/ will believe anything if you pretend it's a leak. They fall for something new every few months.

>>86130180
Is Golden Age Supes even have any good stories or involved in any great events? I mean, do people actually read golden age and silver age ancient garbage? Superdad and Superbro is only Supes with readable stories.

>>86137684
>Good thing the amount of beloved post-Crisis Superman stories outnumbers that very short list. Don't play games with me, boy.

He says without naming a single one. Go ahead dude. Make a longer list of *good* stories

>>86139660
>Warner Brothers

People with taste too. Don't forget. It's only you weirdos that are so obsessed with red shorts. Jesus the shit you guys fixate on.

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>>86129353
He's not real until the man panties come back.

>>86135796
It would probably go over slightly better. I don't recall nearly as much nerd rage over whether Batman wears his black trunks or not.

>>86129353
I still want new-52 Superman back. He was great

>>86132852
This was a great moment and totally in character for any Superman though, including post Crisis.

>>86132950
I dont See the problem here. They were cunts

I've only read part of Morrison's Action Comics for the New 52. Is the rest of the Superman stuff from the New 52 worth a read?

>>86143221
because batman has been depicted as not having them for far longer, and his design lends itself to it better.

the Burton movie was a solid black, and so was the Nolan movies.


Since his costume is all about stealth, and is just shades of dark, its not nearly as important. You expect him to mostly be in shadows anyway.

Superman though, is all about visibility, and a blue unitard just looks weird. the large red section in his midsection helps break up the blue

its a general design thing.

>>86143947
Pick and choose like any other Supes titles

I for one enjoyed the buzzcut period. It gave us the corn pic

>>86143947
Skip most of what happens after Morrison. John's run is pretty solid but feels a bit void once you realize the next writer goes back to writing the same shit again. Pick it up again once he has the Fleischer Crest, put it down when he gets it back, and pick it back up again for Superdad

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It's ok, son

Superman will always be here

>>86137345
Kingdom Come is based on Post-Crisis, if it wasn't you wouldn't have had arguments behind the scenes like "Let's use Alan because I don't want Kyle and management won't let me have Hal".

>>86129353
Cancer always finds a way...

>>86143121
Yeah, god forbid Superman would look like Superman.

>>86145157
Do you also like batnips anon?

>>86143046
>I want my superheroes to make nazi fucks cry.
Wow, this place really is /co/mblr.

>>86129353
>the real Superman
The one who forces munitions magnates to fight on the front lines where the weapons manufactured by their firms are deployed against the ordinary joes of the world? The one who strands skinflint mine owners and their feckless socialite buddies in unsafe mining pits? That Superman?

based gleason fixed the belt

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>>86139161
>>86139527

Well lets see Batfags thrive off of making sure Bruce can boss around and treat Superman like he's a joke. But since Golden Age is pretty too much of a 40's take charge badass, Silver Age was too far over Bruce's head, and N52 was a (clumsy) attempt to reconcile Clark with his golden age core principles they're pretty much left with naive farmboy Supes which is basically the only way Bruce can seem like he's better. Any Supes fan that believes that Post-Crisis was the authentic Superman over Golden Age is a brain addled Batfag falseflagging as a Superman fan.

>>86145286
>Didn't read the story where Superman went after Hitler.

Something I've noticed about Post-Crisis fags is they spend a lot of time defending Nazi's.

It's kinda disgusting how the "NOT MUH" suddendly become a legit thing when Superfags use it.

And more disgusting is DC caving in, killing a character after declaring him a fake and basically telling all the fans that were buying that comic for years that they were in the wrong and the problem.

>>86145968
I only knew it was a matter of time before you turned up.

>>86145469
>superman has 4 kneecaps

>>86146127
what

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>>86146724
ew wtf

>>86146724
>>86146802
My knees are like this

>>86144838
Superman is for everybody

>>86149823
such a meme quote

>>86132253
>Linkara and Rich Johnston

Who?

>>86150076
Some youtube reviewer that wears a fedora and the guy that turns threads he sees on /co/ into clickbait articles over on BleedingCuck.

>>86145286
>Wow, this place really is /co/mblr.

You're either with the 4th Reich or you're tumblr.

Instead of the red shirt brigade, /co/ has the red shorts brigade.

>>86133382
>>86132253
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>>86133294
It's so weird that all these shitty comics are written by such good writers like Morrison, Pak, and Johns. They usually make good comics (and usually good at Superman). But DAAAAMN, did they make the most unlikable Superman in comic form since JMS's Earth One.

Like what happened? Did the writers get amnesia and forget what Superman is about? Did they forget that Fans don't want Superman breaking down doors to hurt people or punching cops? Did they forget Fans want a Fun Superman?
I would expect this from Zack Snyder or JMS but not Grant Morrison or Geoff Johns.

>>86150882
In all honesty, I only read Grant Morrison's Action Comics from the New 52, he said he was harking back to the Golden Age version of Supes, he was a much different character than the version we're more accustomed to today.

>>86151042
>No, it's not shit. It's IRONIC SHIT.
Then why didn't Morrison make something Unironically Good?

No one likes Golden Age Superman except old people, racists, and a few hipsters.

Making Nu52 Superman into a Golden Age brute was a terrible idea.

Nobody important wants Golden Age Superman!!!!

Heck, most people don't even give a shit about Morrison's edgy Action Comics and prefer his All-Star Superman. So why not make Nu52 Superman more like All-Star instead of the Golden Age Supes?

>>86151379
Are you the autist from the Alan Moore thread losing his shit over Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?

>>86151379
>racists

Nazi haters are racists?

>>86141475
You've got shit taste, hombre.
>>86145229
What does that have to do with the trunks?

what a terrible issue
the only thing missing was Superman winking at the audience
I personally don't like being pandered so hard, it feels fake and dirty

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pretty sure this is the real superman

To be honest, the NU52 fans are just feeling what the POST-CRISIS fans felt.

They got rid of the Pre-52 Superman for the Nu52 Superman and now they did the opposite.

>>86143221
Fuck you, his trunks are blue!

>>86152331
Fuck off Marvel shill, this issue was 11/10 perfect. Easily one of the best single issues in years, but you wouldn't know quality if it bit you on the ass.

Go back to Squirrel Girl and Whor if you can't handle this.

>>86143086
People like you are why DC continues to suck.

>>86152331
>A mediocre story
Yeah, post crisis Superman is back

>>86132852
IT WAS A SHADOW MONSTER, DAMMIT

And even if it wasn't the dude needed punching.
>>86145499
>implying that PC Supes didn't kick the shit out of plenty of nazis too

This is such a stupid fucing arguement, they're both great. I prefer Post-Crisis Superman because of the continuity and maturity he has, and more recently because I have always wanted Superdad and Loismom (chris is a weirdo time adoptee and does not count). I still liked Superbro.

>>86133887
Sounds like you're cruising for a star-spangled bruising, buddy.

>>86152487
underrated

>>86139755
Moon from the moon might have been a colorist mistake. Better than, "Hey, is that a real gun golly gee that's scary" while the colorist paints it bright green in Green Lanterns.

>>86143105
Took me 11 hours and I couldn't think of any sorry Non

>>86143105
>The Man of Steel
>Superman: Kryptonite
>Superman: Peace on Earth
>Final Crisis
>Superman for All Seasons
>Reign of the Superman
>Lex Luthor: Man of Steel
>Most of DC Comics Presents
>Birthright
>For Tomorrow
>Emperor Joker
>Brainiac
>President Lex
>Up, Up, and Away
>Loeb Batman/Superman
>World's Finest
And let's not forget the BEST SELLING, MOST ICONIC COMIC BOOK OF ALL TIME, THE DEATH OF SUPERMAN

Do I really need to keep going with this shit? Just admit you're a contrarian casual and leave.

>>86145968
That's pretty much why I'm not buying Superman books anymore

>>86155593
>Superman: Peace on Earth
>implying Alex Ross' Superman is post crisis

>Superman for All Seasons
Out of post-crisis canon

>Reign of the Supermen
mediocre 90s trash

>Emperor Joker
is just alright as a story

>THE DEATH OF SUPERMAN
Holy shit you can't seriously be using this as evidence that post-crisis Superman is good, right? DoS is like the poster child for everything that was wrong with comics during that time.

>>86155593
Don't find it, Anon: >>86151031

Why not just say all the stories happened to Superman. golden/silver/bronze/postcrisis/modern

most of the stories basically more or less fit besides the "this is the first time I met X" stories and even those fit if you just take out the "first time" bit

>>86155733
>b-b-b-but it's not canon
>but it's post crisis so it sucks
go fuck yourself retard

>>86132420
>Wanting linkara to be a fan of Supes.
Do you also identify as a nasty cockslut anon?

>>86150882
Sigh, It's sad how even Injustice Superman was more inspiring than New 52 Superman...

>>86150882
>I dont like it and therefore is not good.

>>86145469
jesus superman fans are really autistic

I guess that's why they like blue things like Sonic and Superman

>>86156011
No one liked new 52 Superman (except the hipsters on 4chan). Not the comic book websites (like Comicalliance and BleedingCool), not the Fans (like Linkara), and not the buyers.

*Mic Drop*

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>>86130339
>There is no measure by which Post-Crisis is not the main Superman. If such a thing as the "real" Superman existed, it would be him.
>being this right

>>86145157
He does look like Superman.

Now if only they could get rid of cyborg and get J'onn back in the spotlight

>>86129353
This page made me cry. It feels so good to finally have the real Man of Steel back.

>>86130339
>Post-Crisis Superman has had BY FAR the most material published out of any Superman
>what is the silver age?

I find it disturbing that he is riding on Superbro's fame.

>>86132253
For every good point Linkara has, he has ten more that are pure semantics. I'd say he still had a sizable impact on how people view comics though.

>>86129353
That's not the real Superman. That's not even the real Post-Crisis Superman. That's fucking Convergence Post-Crisis Superman.

The real Superman hasn't been around since War of the Supermen..

The Superman is each era is the one that follows the narrative of each era. So it went Kal-L, then Kal-el, (who both existed at the same time btw). The new Superman after COIE was a weird mix of Silver/Golden Age plus some new stuff (fuck you Byrne), and it an entirely different character. Then follows Superman of the New 52. Their have been 4 main continuity Supermen. Excluding the Multiverses or Elseworlds.

My favorite theory is the New 52 Superman would be the lost post-52 Superman of Earth 2, since it was established he had been missing for sometime.

I am a diehard post-CoIE Superman fan. I couldn't stand New 52 Superman. I make no bones about either of those points.

Having said that, I don't recall ever advocating that New 52 Superman be killed off so that post-CoiE could come back. I understand why they did it, and obviously I'm glad my Superman is back, but there was really nothing wrong with New 52 Superman that quality writing couldn't have fixed.

That was the problem with New 52 Superman, really. He never really had that rock-solid foundation that post-CoIE Superman enjoyed with Byrne's run. Morrison's run was good but got really fucking weird, Pak's run was divisive, Johns's run was good but only got to write for seven issues, and the rest of New 52 Superman was mediocre at best. There was never really a writer that A) wrote a universally acclaimed run, and B) established Superman's supporting cast and status quo for subsequent writers to follow.

New 52 Superman never really had his own identity. What was his relationship with Lois? Was he a brash asshole or a compassionate role model? Did he work at the Planet or not? I read most of New 52 Superman and fuck if I know the answers.

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>>86155733
>Superman for All Seasons
>Out of post-crisis canon

Nope.

>>86129353
I wish Marvel would do the same with Spider-Man.

>>86160930
Aren't they doing it with the Renew Your Vows on-going?

>>86160930
>I want cheap pandering and issues that rely on past imagery to have any value

Fuck off

>>86161251
>I don't want Spider-Man to actually grow as a character and have an actual family like an adult

Fuck off

>>86133994
>>86134008
>>86134020

This was good though

>>86161251
They already do that though. They repeat stuff like "Spidey lifts a heavy object" fifty times. Slott just did it again for his repeat of the Clone Saga.

>>86160930
>waah.

Every time one of you autismal fucks start crying for the old days, this whole sad thing gets just a little worse.

>>86157752
Silver Age is a respectable second place, but it doesn't even compare to the consistently massive output of post-Crisis.

>>86160930
They did do the same with Spider-Man. That's exactly what One More Day was.

>>86130211
he's more real because he's the good one, faggot

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>>86129353
And then he became the lackey of the US President and threatened Aquaman because the US President told him to. Superbro would had never done this.

>>86161729
how mad are you that Best Superman is back and there's nothing you can do about it

how rustled are you that Superdouche is dead and gone

>>86161251
>I don't want comics based on great, classic relationships

sorry you like shit i guess, bro

>>86162226
Relationships are for really financially and emotionally insecure people. If you can't live on your own and fuck whoever you want, you're probably ugly. Spider-Man is not ugly.

>>86162226
Rebirth Superman isn't based on Lois and Clark loving each other, it's about them being middle aged and THE REAL JESUS

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>>86132312
>My sides when
>I have no sides

>>86162177
That's classic post-crisis Superman but don't expect the casuals here to actually know that

>>86163030
Didn't post-Crisis Supes give up his US citizenship because of how immigrants were treated

>>86163131
those were the years right before the reboot, people tend to ignore them

>>86130339
Pre crisis has almost 20 more years worth of material.

>>86131790
Even the initial drawings when they unveiled the new costumes had an obvious outline of the trunks.

>>86132670
He had problems but bull fucking shit.

>>86133791

>If you seek his monument, look around you.

Such a GOAT scene...

>>86132950
Wait what when did this happen.
This is an elseworlds right theres no way they published this in an auctual canon earth-0 comic

>>86143046
The way he treated the criminals was bad but he auctualy decided to focus on burning down an old building instead of reasuring victims and thats terrible.

>>86163357
It is an actual canon Earth-0 comic

they're Nazis

Is there a more pretentious group that Superman fans?

Not only they think they are better human beings for liking him they also act as if this fictional character has a monopoly on things like hope and other traits that literally every other superhero has.

>>86133091
This was fine some of the dialouge was a little off but its entirely in line with superman like something you would see in the golden age.

>>86163425
>Is there a more pretentious group that Superman fans?
Superman haters

>>86163462
Nobody wants Golden Age Superman. They want a Superman that is Fun and Inspirational (like OP). Not a vindictive brute like Golden Age Supes.

>>86163469
>NO U

Try harder next time

>>86163538
Anyone who tries to appear better than another group by putting down that group's interest is by definition pretentious

>>86134678
Batman does not sit fills in the gaps.

>>86137345
He has a lot of storys but half of your list is elseworlds

>>86132253
At least Action Comics was good

>>86163660
He's just saying that a considerable chunk of Superman's most iconic stories don't involve post-Crisis Superman

>>86151379
But it was good

>>86163524
Honestly Reading rebith Superman isn't really any different from nu52 supes. The only thing that has changed is now everyone seems to be going "that's muh supez" but he seems to be the same. Hell he out and out fucking assaulted lex. You know superdad actually seems to be more of a brute than super bro was.

>>86163233
"Pre-Crisis" is not a continuity. You can't just lump golden and silver ages together. Both Post-Crisis and Silver Age lasted roughly 30 years, but Superman had 3-4 ongoings at any given time to himself in post-Crisis, not to mention spinoffs like Superboy and Supergirl. Silver Age certainly had a few titles going, but nothing to match post-Crisis. Get over it.

>>86163749
That's because Dan Jurgens is a hack who has never written anything above "this exists" in his entire career

>>86160413
Pretty much my thoughts to.

>>86132375
Morrison was good. The other writers ended up getting into mediocre crossovers mandated by the superman editors.

Honestly Superman has had shitty sexist editors since the 90s.

>>86162177
Yeah he was a little off there.

I dont think supermans portrayal in that issue was as horrible as some seem to think but it was probably both his worst apperance post rebirth and the worst aquman issue post rebirth.

Really the problem with that issue for both arthur and clark was there should have been an extra 2 pages before the auctual fight started. It needs to be conveyed to readers who have not read the previous issues how frustrating things have been for arthur so his snapping does not make him seem like such a little bitch and superman needs to have been able to say a few of the things he tried to say to arthur during the fight in an eariler moment of peace so supes does not seem so unreasonable.

Basicly the characterisation was not bad the way the characters were presented was.

>>86134153
Ya dumbass he was always in the background ready to give the first timers a chance. It was established in his firat issue. If the league failed in stopping Darksied he would intervene but that never happened. He had faith in this planeta heroes. If shit went south he would def be there to help.

>>86135824
>>86135619
Not just didio. Order came all the way from the top. This is WBs way of making him cool with the modern hip kids. Look at his man of steel costume or the one he wears in supergirl for proof

>>86163924
so he would have waited for them to die before doing anything

>>86163801
It's not just one moment though. Since he's been in this world he seems to be a lot more brutal and viscous than 52 supes. A lot of it seems to be written under the guise of "i need to protect my family" but it comes off as making him seem to be much more of a brute who's willing to initiate violence to protect what's his and he seems less worried about collateral so long as he protects his own. Now protecting your family isn't inherently a bad thing but if you compare it to the end of Morrison run of 52 supes where he was given the chance to rewrite history so that his kents would still be alive he instead chooses to use the wish to save the lives of all the astronauts on mars, willingly sacrificing his own happiness to help other people. I dunno. I think that theres a kinda seperation between current supes and the world that wasn't there with superbro and i don't know if it's going to go away.

>>86163951
>Order came all the way from the top
Warner brothers from the top or all the way from the top at time warner.

My money is from time warner.

>>86162070
This is what post crisis fags think. They like an artist's portrayal of Superman over pre crisis writers like >>86162070
Otto Binder or Maggin or Bates.

>>86162070
Doesn't matter when 90% of it was thrash.

This thread is what happens when you jerk off Batman for so long.

>>86144838
Heh would have been nice if they drew him in Reeves's image.

>>86164727
They've already done that though

>>86129353
Can you believe, after all these years, the real Superman is black?

>>86164751
I know, but I mean for this pre-crisis Supes in new comics.

>>86129353
It's too good to be true.
I also can't believe that Hacken from Hitman and Section Eight had not one, but two guest-apperances in the current storyline.

>>86152547
I got no problem with either of them, but this is a retarded ass way to do something and is nothing but cheap pandering at the cost of a good story. Post crisis Superman doesn't even have any relation with this worlds Jimmy, Perry, Lois or Lana.