Would a show based on TF2 work?

maybe as a 10 minute show on Adult Swim.

>>86117415
SFM is clunky and slow, and Valve still acts like five guys in a garage with a work ethic to match, so no.

What would the plot even be? TF2 is a class based shooter.

Making a cartoon off of GTA would be easier. Fuck, making an Overwatch cartoon would be easier mainly because they aren't fighting recolors of themselves.

also, how about left 4 dead? Just curious.

>>86117415
As a kid's show, with a normal cartoon runtime? MAYBE. A lot of the humor would wind up getting wasted because they couldn't put a lot of the great jokes in, plus people couldn't die in it. Like, at all.

However, like >>86117447 said, it'd do pretty well on Adult Swim, even with a full run time. It might even do okay on Comedy Central, based on how well Futurama and South Park do (granted, they'd be totally different shows). I could a TF2 show doing especially well on the Toonami block, since then it could have a balance of seriousness and comedy, the way it is in the games.

What kinda stuff would go in the intro to the show?

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>>86117415
Probably. The comic is great and that SFM pilot they did was pretty funny.

>>86117477
You're thinking too hard about this. It doesn't matter if it makes sense, as long as it's funny people will accept it.

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>>86117477
>What would the plot even be? TF2 is a class based shooter.

Uh... The comics?

>>86117415
They were going to, Valve and Adult Swim had agreed to one. However Valve couldn't keep to Adult Swim's schedule so the idea was abandoned. The one idea for a short was made into Expiration Date.

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>>86117477
>What would the plot even be? TF2 is a class based shooter.
Each class is it's own character. Have you not seen any of the shorts?

There's a comic, too.

>>86117415
You'd have to explain how the hell there's two teams of the exact same nine people. All eighteen characters dying each episode could at least be explained through nonexistent continuity, or some kind of ass-pull like Merasmus's "kill-me-come-back-stronger" pills.

>>86117600

source?

this is really interesting, never heard this.

>>86117600
Really? I didn't know that.

It would get two episodes, then go on an indefinite hiatus.

>>86117477
Well, it'd have to be a lot more like the comic at first. Fighting robots, and maybe even just doing missions against the robots at first. THEN they could bring in the TFC guys for an arc or two, followed finally by Gray Mann (one of the only people who could really work as a good villain, beyond maybe the Administrator) cloning them or some shit.

>>86117633
Still mad about Half-life?

>>86117477
there are enough comics to flesh out a world and general story.

>back in the old west days, an industrialist left his two undeserving sons a bunch of useless land, and gave his industrial empire over to the Hale family.
>his sons start fighting each other over the land.
>they hire mercenaries
>they both hire the Engineer to build machines to keep them alive well past the point of dying of old age.
>it is now this 1960s era.
>still fighting with mercs over the land
>buying all their weapons from Saxton Hale. Who is now the head of the company left by the brother's father, to the Hales.
>every mercenary has little bit of background story to expand upon. like Soldier is this American. who flies him self to europe to fight in ww2. but it was already years after ww2.
>then there is the third brother and his army of robots.

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>>86117415
The comics are already hilarious, so if it kept the same pace and punchline deliveryment in an animated format I sure would.

>>86117680

>kept the same pace

One installment per year?

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SURE If this was 2014.
Who else aside furries and valve drones still playing this game?

>>86117694
Not on the release of episodes, but the pacing of the episodes themselves.

>>86117694

Oh wait, my mistake. It's been over a year since the last installment of the comic now.

>>86117617
one team, that's it. problem solved.

>>86117724
I-I'm not a furry, AND I've only ever played TF2 as far as Valve stuff. I still play once in a while, but they fucking League of Lame-ified everything about game selection and shit so they could play catch-up with Overwatch. Which REALLY sucks for me, because one of my favorite things about TF2 in the first place was all the goofy fan-made maps people had on non-Valve servers

>>86117724
Fuck you, I still love beating up children at 2Fort and I always will.

>>86117660
No

yes

>>86117724
Found the Waifuwatch player.

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>>86117755
>"bi-monthly" they said
Eh, in all honesty I can't give Valve any shit for how they release these because A.) it's Valve, what the fuck do you expect? And B.) I've yet to see a TF2 comic that hasn't gotten a chuckle out of me.

>>86118004
You're bound to find more these days, so you're right

>>86117415
Probably, but unless they'll do one for the game's 10th anniversary next year, that ship has long since sailed

>>86117415
Adult Swim tried, but they couldn't handle Valve time.
They wanted at least 6 episodes in 22 minutes format. Instead we got expiration date.

>>86118043
I can blame them because VR was and is the hold up. VR can die in a hole.

>>86118115
They're like fleas.

>>86117569
>>86117609
They botched the story in my opinion.
I think even they realised it, seeing how it takes one year to create an issue that was supposed to be released bi-monthly.
Pauling being gay is just another great show of Valve's sloppy work ethic, which consists of "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand does".

>>86117609
to be fair the shorts also posit the idea of them fighting recolors of themselves as well, sometimes there's even several Soldiers on one team. . But on the bright side the world lends itself to shit like clones and robots.

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>>86117477
>What would the plot even be?

Holy shit read the comics. There's already enough there for two seasons and that's if they went plot-based.

>>86118246
>Pauling being gay is just another great show of Valve's sloppy work ethic
...How?

>>86118155
Everyone is on Team Vive. Some are still playing with Team Steam Controller, but that's pretty, much just a smaller crew.
And Team Tf2 is a dude with a Casio in a broom closet.

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>>86117897
>tfw 99 heads on endless 2fort

>>86118409
IT Crowd with Pyro as Douglas.

>Matt Berry moaning through a mask to record lines.

I'd watch.

>>86118503
I think what a lot of people think, they should really just turn the game over to the community, or do what they do with CS:GO. Let a 2nd party developer work with it.

>>86117468
SFM has been one of the greatest additions to porn.

>>86118643
Plenty if creativity out there among workshop creators to push the game to the next level.

Just got to figure out the balancing issue.

>>86118246
>Pauling being gay
>Scheduling a date with scout in expiration day

So Scout is a girl now?

>>86118736
That's where a second party comes in. I mean, it's not like TF2 doesn't make them an assload of money.

tfw the market is trending down and has been since MYM. My backpack has suffered. But that's what I get for focusing on stranges and not unusuals.

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>>86118800
FemScoot

>>86117617
Just make RED the protagonists
>what? Exact same people? No! ofc you can argue that BLU is made of a bunch of very good looking scumbags but we are not the same.
>Cue gag of Hale, The Administrator, whoever walking out with truckloads of money while Blutarch Mann loads tons of wooden boxes labed with "Clon-O Matics" into a warehouse

There, you can even reference it every now and then and blame it on Merasmus, Australium, Vortex to another dimension, Mann Co. "Realistic latex novelty mask" division test products etc.

>>86117617
>You'd have to explain
Why?

>>86118858
Why I cashed out and just have a load of keys. Use those to trade for games now.

>>86118928
Yeah I always imagined that they were clones and that one of the brothers stole the idea from the other, just like with the age-extending machines.

>>86118989
I still like the game and play occasionally. I'm just pissed my backpack's value's taken a hit.

>>86117862
Why the fuck is the matchmaking bothering you if you don't play on Valve servers anyway? You know you can still play on community servers, right?

>>86118246
Pauling being gay is the perfect punchline for Scout's Quest for the Succ, my only complaint is that they said it too early.

>>86119039
Yea I still have a few I like that I invested time in. My Sleeper, My few Festives, the Flamethrower and my Medi-Gun.

>>86117600
>>86117620
http://www.polygon.com/gaming/2012/6/22/3110808/valve-teams-up-with-adult-swim-for-team-fortress-2-mystery-project

It seems as if the Pyro short might have been testing the waters to see if they could take the concept further. From what I've gleamed they aired the Pyro short, but nothing else. It seems odd if that were t be the only testing done, and if they were pursuing something, it would be more reasonable to air a block of the Meet the Team shorts instead of one.

Honestly, Valve seems to have really dropped the ball with Team Fortress. I just hope that Blizzard makes Valve take an extra look at what they can do with TF2.

>>86118995
They are clones, both red and blue soldiers and also engineer I think are called by the same name in different comics. Also there are like a dozen soldiers dying in Meet the Medic.

>>86117468
>and Valve still acts like five guys in a garage with a work ethic to match
>still

Anon, you're implying things aren't going exactly according to design. Valve has a radical "absolutely no rules or bosses, not even Gay Ben will tell you what to do, do whatever the flying fuck you want" corporate layout that's purposefully engineered so that they can act like a bunch of guys dicking around in a garage for the rest of their lives. When they do put out shit, it's because they, as in everybody working on the project, they personally want to put it out. So usually the quality level is pretty high. But if they're not, like, feeling it today dude, then nothing will ever get done, and they're completely fine with that.

>>86117617
But that's not what the lore is like at all

Red team has 9 characters that never die, blue team can exist of as many characters as is needed for the episode, and can be killed to fit the plot.

>>86119125
I've got 6 aussies and a bunch of other high tier stranges. And a self-made item.

>>86117680
Nice, they even posed them like the Green comic.

>>86117415
Probably not now that a lot of the voice actors have retired

>>86119176
Wow they're lucky Steam is making them a shitton of money because with a policy like that they would go bankrupt within 3 weeks.

>>86119170
Engie isn't as it's his family that developed the tech for

>>86119207
That and cancer. Damn shame. Pretty much all voiced by one guy now. Nolan North

>>86119246
That was their plan all along.

>>86119301
Rick May is still alive and well, last I knew. That weird scream wasn't Nolan.

>>86119246
Gabe was also a multi-millionaire before he ever founded the company. It was always something of a passion project for him, he made a huge fortune working for microsoft, but he decided that video games were more interesting. If he just wanted secure money and a solid business plan, he would have just rode that microsoft train for as long as it'd take him because god knows it has no brakes at this point.

In any case valve has certainly worked out for him, he's one of the 1000 richest people in the world, with a personal fortune of billions.

>>86119336
Doom proved to him PC was a viable games platform and Mario 64 proved to him that games could be art.

>>86119103
>>86118800
>>86118427
Protip: Pauling was never actually gay, that was just one of the writers saying some non-Valve-approved stuff on their social media.

>>86119267
So? That doesn't stop him from cloning himself to not die in battle and make money from being hired in both sides. The original hangs out of the battlefield while the clones do the job. Or maybe the administrator just stole the cloning machine plans from engie's family.

>We will never have a TF2 cartoon with the animators and writers from Titmouse and Valve
Kill me.
>>86119176
Except it's still very much highly flawed because while everyone is fucking around with VR literally no one is actually working on their games, TF2 and CSGO, which is why they've gone down the shit as of late.

The worst part is this could easily be fixed by just hiring more people which they refuse.

>>86117415
are those fucking yogscast cosmetics

has TF2 gone too far?

>>86119428
Valve doesn't work on CS:GO, they handed it off to a third party. That's why CS:GO's matchmaking actually works and TF2's is absolute shit.

FUCK I hate the Meet your Match update. Ruined TF2.

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>>86118906
I hate this model and I hate Max2ds for making it.
I hate the fucking Scout's mom model that he made, that everyone uses.
They both just look like the Scout in drag. I mean ffs the faces don't even look good.

What's worse is that there were other models made for femscout, but while they were better, they never got as popular as this ugly beast.

>>86117569
ONE
YEAR

>>86119472
They're charity donation reward items.

>>86119472
Likely something from workshop or something from a Tournament.

>>86119513
>They both just look like the Scout in drag
That's the fucking point.

>>86119546
I mean fine, okay.

Still.

>>86119472
Maybe.

It was for a good cause, though.
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=19497

>>86119513
Overwatch seems to do well with its version.

>>86118800
To be fair wasn't that date also his assassination?

>>86119565
"Still" what? The Yogscast set up a charity and you get a small virtual reward for donating. Get the fuck off your high horse.

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>>86119558
Does YOUR mom look like you in drag?

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>>86119491
>they handed it off to a third party.
I like Uncle Dane but that video pissed me off from the wrong information it gave and people regurgitating without doing their own research.

Hidden Path helped Valve make the game but once they released the game, Valve replaced them in LITERAL months. They barely did shit with comp, it was all Valve.

So no, Valve could very much make TF2 and CSGO good again if they bothered.

>>86119606
To be fair, Pauling isn't gay.

Read the thread.

>>86119363
So pretty much one of the writers shoehorned in Pauling's sexuality without any approval from the company he worked at?

How did he even get away with that>

>>86119633
I didn't get that misinformation from Uncle Dane, it was circulating well before that video came out.

That just makes the fucking over of TF2 even worse.

>>86119094
Yeah, but it's a bitch to get to the server list these days. Plus, I had a ton of cool servers saved in my favorites and can't find them now

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>Pauling plans a date with Scout in Expiration Date
>said date presumably happens
>next time we hear from the writers, they hint at Pauling being gay

I'd probably go gay too. Just sayin.

>>86119615
It's hard to criticize anything when charity is involved but it's still another weird thing that doesn't fit much in team fortress, that's all i'm sayin

You could put a giant photorealistic shit on Heavy's head and if it came from charity it'd be really hard to earnestly criticize it.

>>86119700
READ

THE

THREAD

>>86119700
Scout blew it so hard Pauling went to bat for the other team.

>>86119701
It absolutely fits, that style of cartoon use for the faces had existed for decades before TF2 takes place.

>>86119769
I subjectively disagree with you.

>>86119761
Except she didn't.

Do you people not have the 4chan options enabled that let you see replies to a post?

>>86119691
Blame DOTA 2 and VR.
Robin Walker was the best thing TF2 had, but due to how Valve works he just upped and left with all the other best and brightest that worked in the game and since then they hired one other replacement.

>>86119813
Robin left? I didn't know that.

I knew they fired a lot of their best talent

>>86119695
>Plus, I had a ton of cool servers saved in my favorites and can't find them now
That's probably because they're all gone. The MvM update killed community servers. The previous system would funnel newbies and veterans looking for a quick game into community servers, which both increased the player count, encouraging more people to join and keeping the server alive, while also introducing new people to the community who might decide to stick around and be valued server players. Now, the new system keeps newbies and veterans looking for a quick game into exclusively valve servers for the matchmaking bullshit. People have to go out of their way to look for community servers now, which most people won't do. Which means that community servers are quickly dying off as they just can't keep players on them and members of the community quit and weren't replaced.

>>86119632
I meant femscout. Scout's design isn't meant to be the prettiest boy on the block, it's supposed to be an average twenty-something with a rough upbringing. Femscout wasn't created as scout's dedicated waifu, she's a genderbent version of the scout. Yes, obviously her design looks fucking similar to his.

Your comment on his mom is retarded, yes, she's his mom, they share physical similarities. She doesn't look like him in drag, she looks like his mother.

At this point I think Valve is TRYING to kill TF2 with bad decisions so they won't have to work on it anymore.

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>tfw TF2's time is pretty much over and you were never there for when it was the shit and not a hat economy

>>86117415
It would start off really good and then get more bloated and garish to the point where it becomes unrecognizable from it's original design goals.

>>86119834
>I knew they fired a lot of their best talent
Valve doesn't fire people friend. They either just work on something else or leave entirely.

Very recently their best writer and one of the very original members since Valve inception, Marc Laidlaw, left for unknown reasons but no one at valve has ever been "fired". Most of the devs that worked at TF2 either moved on to DOTA or VR.

>>86117600
I've always pictured a TF2 animated series with an art style similar to the Venture Bros.

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>>86119848
The Scout isn't the even the prettiest face on the team, but at least his face looks natural.
Femscout's face looks like a botched plastic surgery job.

>>86119892
you know you can ignore the hats, right

there's even mods to disable them.

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>>86119700
Basically, this.

>>86119905
Same.
Hell, I can imagine the two being in the same universe but different time periods.

Is there a breakdown of what happened to Valve? Thy used to have everything; good games, competent leadership, and a decent platform. Is it really just laziness?

>>86119901
>but no one at valve has ever been "fired".
People get fired at Valve. It's rare, but it happens if someone really fucks up or, more likely, does absolutely nothing.

You have to work on something at Valve, even if it's a dead end that goes nowhere after months of work. But you have to work on SOMETHING.
>>86119901
Rumor is he left because he wants to write Half Life 3 but Valve just put him on DOTA.

>>86119940
a combination of laziness and people having fucking terrible ideas when they DO work on something

>>86119913
Soldier and Zhana is the best vidya couple of all time

>>86119940
Not laziness, just putting all their eggs in one basket.

Valve had more money then they could do with and they all decided that "Hey, what if we invest all of our money on VR, and all we got to do is get 80% of everyone who works here to invest all their time and efforts?" and everyone went for it.

To give you a basic idea of how many people worked on VR, the TF2 comic was delayed because both the writer and artist decided to work on VR for a bit.

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>>86119940

>>86117555
If you think you can't kill on a kids show you're wrong
There was a shit ton of murder
In the clone wars series on cartoon net work

>>86120035
I really wonder if this will work out for them. They want to make VR mainstream the way they made PC gaming mainstream, but I dunno...

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>tfw TF2 was the first game to get you interested in lore

>>86120035
How the fuck would a writer and an artist help with VR?

>>86120067
Well there's definitely some deepest lore now.
because the game is practically six feet under

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>>86119700
>go gay for like 2 months and then go back to being straight
Is Pauling in college?

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>>86120098
You say things that hurt my soul

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>>86120057
Clone wars was a bit for the older crowds, but I'm sure this would be too. But they could just bypass that by making them fight mostly robot clones. But ultimately the loss is still the lack of cartoony gore which isn't going over even if you can get them to okay killing tons of characters, most the deaths in clone wars were 1. clean 2. with laser weapons. So having a kids show that has people get blown into gibs with machine guns and baseball bats isn't going to fly in a kids show. But why do we want a kids show, we can just have an adult show.

>>86120067
I only just recently read the l4d comic(s?)

Bretty good stuff, made me wish there was more of it

>>86120114
>QUICK ZHANA! BE RACIST TO HIM!

>>86120063
It won't.
Instead of just making it a monitor you glue to your eyes they want to make it as interactive as possible. Problem is unless they finally invent holodecks, motion controls are inherently unresponsive and awkward.
>>86120074
Concept art and writing lines for their tech demos.
Alternatively, fucking around with VR to "test if it works".

>>86120098
Yea yea, see you in five years Overwatch, not likely.

>>86120074
Valve both encourages people to go outside their box and they also simply don't hire completely specialized people who will only do one job. In their words they want "T shaped people", people who are particularly good at one thing but can do a bunch of other things as well. It shows in the credits of their games- since they want people to mix jobs whenever possible, nobody's actually listed under any job, it's just a long list of names of people at valve.

>>86120122
She was never gay in the first place.

>>86119843
>MvM update

What did he mean by this?

I was playing community servers at the same time as MvM, and for a good number of years after it came out. I mean, I could still find assloads of community servers when MvM came out at first.

>>86120122
IS she? Her and Scout look pretty young.

>>86120209
It was a joke about one of the writers saying Pauling is gay.

>>86120226
Jokes are funny.

>>86119901
Valve let a lot of people go at once like a year or two ago, actually. I remember it pretty vividly.

>>86120217
Sorry, I meant MyM, the one that just came out with the matchmaking.

>>86120184
With as much effort and time they seem to've sunk into the vive, i gotta say the controllers look like total shit compared to oculus'

Then again I haven't used either so what do I know, maybe they work significantly better

I remember seeing those bowl-like walking pads, honestly that's your best bet for real home ''holodecking'' within foreseeable future. Problem is they're too big for consumer tech, really.

Man,I spent parte of my teenhood with Gmod videos on YouTube. Those were the good times, RIP Kitty076. Now the times of Tf2(and maybe entire Valve) are pretty much gone....

>>86120258
I had not heard this.

But, then again, this isn't /v/.

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>tfw i still have fun with TF2, and don't get all the hate

If you're tired of the game, just say so. Don't be a wet blanket for the rest of us.

Half Life 3 never existing because Valve no longer needs to make it is karma for what happened to TF2.

Related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3GL3XRKsRo

>>86120304
The bowl-like walking pads are rather janky, because they aren't actually integrated into any games as far as I know. All it does is that when you walk forward, it presses a virtual "W" key. It doesn't adjust for speed or watch for each individual footstep or anything like that, which would most likely make it feel terrible.

>>86120635
Early development. It'll get there.

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>>86117477
>TF2 is a class based shooter it wouldn't work
>But Overwatch would work even though it's the exact same thing

>>86120878
Well Overwatch has tits.

>>86120635
Because no games have been designed for it, since they're all hobby-made prototypes.

Imagine if someone made something technologically similar to the vive in their garage, but no software had been designed for it. Yea, it'd be worthless for the most part.

This stuff should have reached a higher point back when arcades were still a real thing, then both the software and hardware would have been able to be developed and be profitable. It would eventually have come into home use, just as lightguns did.

>>86120878
Overwatch would work because it was written to be a movie/series in the first place, and they made the game instead.

That's why it has so much lore and shit that ABSOLUTELY doesn't matter to the game.

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>>86117415
TF2 hasn't been relevant since 2008, it literally does not matter anymore in the real world and the only people (if you can even call them people) that for some inexplicable reason STILL do care about that game are steam slaves that have to farm virtual doodads for pennies while they try to keep their parents from kicking them out of the house for being wastes of human space.
On that note, this thread is only barely related to cartoon or comic series, you're wasting board space here by keeping it up.

>>86119513
What other femscout models are you talking about?

>>86121163
You're wasting board space with your life, tripfucker.

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>>86121163
Go back to Blizzard, you shit.

>>86121163
>tripfag on /co/
>calls other people "wastes of human space" as opposed to wastes of what other kind of space?

>>86121125
>That's why it has so much lore and shit that ABSOLUTELY doesn't matter to the game.
So, just like TF2, then.

>>86119654
They didn't, they got fired.

>>86121358
t. buttmad Valvedrone

>>86117415

It could be done if valve outsourced it

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>>86117415
It would at least be worth the humor

>>86121404
All of TF2's lore was made up after the fact.

Not saying the characters couldn't carry a show, just that the world building is entirely ad hoc.

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>>86122295
Hardly.

Overwatch will be abandoned once this console generation cycles out. They'll add the characters they want and then that'll be it outside some balance tweaks. They can't keep pumping new characters into the game, where it's easier for TF2 to get new weapons. Even if they don't add new weapons that often.

Overwatch just can't have the staying power with the way they've set it up.

>>86121125
I've read the Overwatch lore.
It's not that great. Tf2 lore is somehow more interesting and as you mentioned >>86122513 it's mostly made up on the spot and rarely take itself seriously.

I guess this is due to the fact Overwatch tries to take itself far more seriously but a lot of the lore aspects just aren't very well written while TF2 occasionally has hey're dramatic moments it always put comedy first and the universe and world they live in reflect said comedy.

>>86122676
Tf2's lore took form over the span of a decade, overwatch had some crap scribbled up pre-release.

It's insulting to compare them, honestly.

>>86119181
>spoiler
What's it?

>>86122570
TF2 was developed and engineered to be a balanced gameplay and distilled down to simplest class attributes and all weapons just add variants on those attributes.

Overwatch is Lotta flash but little substance to go through distance.

>>86119181
Never got that deep into MvM to get that high grade stuff. Did enjoy my first play through early on though.

>>86124017
phlogistinator

nah i'm not that guy, but can you imagine?

REAL SMALL OVER HERE

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Soldier is best boy.

>>86124535
It's not so bad now that it's gotten a bit of a nerf. It's still a bit of a bitch move to grab it because it means you can't extinguish teammates and you're giving up the ability to actually show a modicum of skill in reflecting rockets, but it's not blatantly overpowered or anything. You just have to shoot a guy until he's nearly dead, let him do his invincibility taunt thing to protect himself for 2 seconds, and then shoot him again before he can W+M1 you to death.

I have no fucking idea what they were thinking though, making it refill health. That was such an enormously stupid idea.

>>86124660
>Full undress and brace for impact

I've had those days too, Soldier.

>>86124764
Even when it was first launched it was widely considered a useless joke only good for making people angry. Any competent team sees that piece of shit and just lays waste to the defenseless son of a bitch that pulled it.

>>86118503
>>86118643
Valves internal work model is fucking insane and they have only not gone bankrupt due to all the steam money.

Saying to employees 'do what you like lad idc' means nothing really gets done for older games.

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>>86124764
That reminds me.

>>86124017
It's a cosmetic. I can't say much of course without getting found, but yeah, I love my community sparkle.

>>86119513
To be fair, it looks tumblr female.

>>86118906
>there is STILL no Demowoman

>>86125051
>>86124278

I traded for my Aussies. Got good deals on them, at the time. I traded a Purple Confetti Lil Buckaroos Hat for the Aussie Amby.

My Aussie Knife was a gift of sorts though.

>>86119363
Unfortunately it was the same writer who basically invented Pauling.
Due to her lack of ingame relevance (until the tough break update) he could basically do with her whatever he wanted.

>>86125205
>Maskless pyro.
>Can clearly tell it's a skunk.
DELET THIS

>>86119103
>Scout's Quest for the Succ
Which he already completed with that Chicken girl.
The thing is, he can attract women, he just picks god mode and goes for educated women instead.

>>86125346
no it's cute. I would want to cuddle kangaroo sniper

>>86125205
Woah. I actually know the chick who made this. Took a couple of art courses with her too.
Super cool gal.

>>86118246
Pauling isn't gay though.
One of the comic artists suggested it and Valve shot them down.

>All these people asking "how would you explain them fighting recolors of themselves"
>Implying this wouldn't be the recurring lampshade joke that no one in the show ever talks about
>Implying BLU wouldn't basically be Monarch Henchmen who happen to look like the protagonists

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>>86117724
Overwatch is occupying most of my game time now, but you're playing with yourself if you think I'm not gonna be playing Boss Rush on Halloween my nigger.

>>86119913
>That last panel
I love how it looks like it's supposed to be an animation smear.

>>86118427
They have two writers (of that I am aware of: Erik Wolpaw & Jay Pinkerton), and they didn't communicate their ideas well enough among each other. Two people and having two different ideas how to approach and didn't even talked about it before they put it into practice, resulting in the writing mess that we have now and that apparently takes one fucking year to talk it out.

Recipe for success right? It would've been somewhat funny, if it was not the case in almost every department at Valve, which can at times get very frustrating.

>>86125622
There are two writers. One suggested it, the other disagreed.

>>86121802
What the fuck are you talking about? Pinkerton still works for Valve.

>>86124981
Classrushing is a valid tactic.

>>86125143
>Still do DemoWoman
>still no FemSoldier

i'm assuming the people behind these fem models are having a difficult time trying to make them look pretty

>>86125143
What bothers me is every Femo design plays up the Afro blaxploitation front and not the drunk, irate Scot front.

Demowoman should be a bit of a badass who gets drunk and starts fights, not some sleek and sexy femme fatale.

>>86126552
Which doesn't make any sense, because Demo is Scottish first, Afro second.

If they want to stray from the source material, I'd rather have her modelled after the British punks from the 80ies.
But why? Demo's mom has all the reference you need, just make her hair shorter.

>>86126486
Yeah, I think this gritty work requires extremely butch women to perform. On the other hand, all genderflip models are based on Chemical Alia, and she didn't do them both.

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>>86119360
>Mario 64 proved to him that games could be art

But they're not.

>>86127204
Get out of here, Roger.

>>86124931
Nothing gets done at all, when was the last time they released a game of their own?

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>>86127528
Dota 2, three years ago, and unsurprisingly it's still highly popular.

They released The Lab just some months ago, but it's more of a bundle of Valve-made VR-based minigames.

>>86127817
Technically, it's all IceFrog.

>>86127204
They're art if they use the medium specific enough.

Fallout 1 is arguably art, as an example. The synergy between player choice and the narrative is far more artistic than exploring some lesbian's home, or a boring, on rails shooter that's TOTALLY INTENTIONALLY on rails, written by a guy who didn't actually understand what he made the core of his game's story about. Those two were hailed as the Citizen Kane of gaming, and released in the same year.

So yeah, games can be art. But the regression into pretentious "WE'RE TOTALLY ARTISTIC" bullshit fostered by social justice bullies and AAA developers is hurting the amount of games which fall into that category.

>>86127817
Didn't they just throw money at icefrog and co to make that?

>>86128055
I wasn't completely serious, and yeah, I think it depends on the game, and who's playing it.

Kojima once referred to video games as more of a museum than specifically art in and of itself, and while I can see where he comes from, I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's regarding what kind of game it is.

Tower of Heaven and ICO are two games that are very different, but to me they're very much alike and they are two games I'd consider art. The gameplay is still there, and it's never put in second place behind anything else, but the rest of the game makes it a whole other type of experience than, say, Overwatch.

Also, what's the second of the two you were referring two? I can't seem to get which game you're talking about.

>>86128055
I know which one is the first one, but which one is the second one?

>>86128307
This

As for video games as art, I call them as I see them. Not saying all games are piece of art, but there are some I consider to be art.

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>>86117415

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>>86119913

This is a much better version

>>86119143
From what I remember, Expiration Date was going to be a full length, independently produced feature.

They would need to ramp up the homo-eroticism or scrap it entirely. The "skin-a-max" shit is weak.

>>86120205
It's the Monkeys and Typewriters method of development. But it works for Them.

As long as they can do the characters well I'd watch it, but it depends on what network it airs on.

If it airs on Cartoon Network, it would feel a tad bit weaker. Allot of Tf2's humor comes from mixing seriousness with insanity, because the characters take the world their in seriously despite how over the top it can be.

If it airs on Toonami, then sure. It would be great because they can have action, but also have Tf2's trademark comedy. Albeit Valve would need to hire writers that can do it well.

>>86119913
Is...is this official? Did Valve actually publish this?

>>86125966
Come the holidays it's time to ween it up. We're approaching a milestone. Come on Valve get the game some new mega baboon hearts and lets show the rookies how it's done.

>>86120384
Because the people who play CoD or even CS:GO don't like the idea of a free game being just as fun for something they've spent actual money on.

I'd actually say CS:GO players are worse with all the fucking unboxing videos and how much they freak out over a knife skin.

Though I have seen plenty of autistic TF2 players react the same way with hats....

Everything sucks basically.

>>86129206
Yeah, they're fun.

>>86129258
Eh since the market shat the bed on values (rip buds and bills)

Not seen people really caring.

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>>86129206
Yes. I'm surprised /co/ doesn't know about them.

http://www.teamfortress.com/comics.php

>>86129258
I play TF2 and CS:GO. I appreciate them for what each one is.

>>86119170
except this idea creates a massive plot point - blutarch and redmond are using their life extenders to stay alive long enough to seize property of the land they're fighting for - if clone machines exist why can't they just clone themselves and extend the fight

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>>86129342
>Tfw that comic will never be an actual thing

>>86129365
In the comics, I don't think it's cloning. In one of the recent ones, Sniper died and was dead for quite some time before the Medic brought him back.

>>86129365
Because then they won't get the gravel, a clone would.

>>86129365
>if clone machines exist why can't they just clone themselves and extend the fight
Because you're not really immortal, some other guy that looks like you and have the same memories as you are living your life but you yourself are still dead.

The Mercs being clones the whole time theory works because they're expandable, it don't matter if the originals are dead so long as someone could continue doing they're job.

>>86129365
That's not how cloning works, Anon.
Though Redmond Blutarch wouldn't know that, of course.

>>86129265
I always knew they were fun, I didn't know they were that fun.

It's nice to see they weren't affected by the same crowd that thought Tracer's victory pose from the back was sexist or whatever. Though I guess that might be from not publishing any games in a while.

>>86129417
I'm genuinely surprised no one has made a porn comic out of that.

>>86129358
Wow man, I bet you like peanut butter AND jelly on your sandwich.

The question is if it did air and manage to capture the spirit of the Comics and Shorts, would anyone watch it so it can get popular? Does that humor work on TV?

>>86129417
You mean Scout's Worst Double Dates?

I imagine it's the same date she went with Miss Pauling, and that Soldier and Zhanna.
And then Pauling turned gay.

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The one that started it all.

>>86125051
Ikes, is that you?

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>>86129490
Condescending much?

>>86129649
Nope.

>>86129615
>Drunken Apology Making

>>86129537
Hey man, if aqua teen lasted for as long as it did, tf2 would do just fine

>>86129573
She turned gay after seeing the soldier naked and covered in honey

>>86129342
Speaking of Comics, if they handed them over to a third party who would be able to do their humor well?

>>86129855
Is the dude that made the sam & max cartoon still around?

>>86129910
Yes, and yeah Steve Purcell would do a good job at it.

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>>86125143
>>86126486
agreed

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>>86130394

>>86123063
TF2's lore doesn't outright contradict the game, and they even have events based on stuff released from the comics like Mann Vs. Machine. Overwatch lore is a bunch of cliches put in a blender that seems like it was made out of contrivance rather than actually building the lore around it. TF2's lore grew organically, Overwatch's did not.

>>86130394
She looks a tad too old

>>86129365
A number of reasons.

A. They're idiots. They dedicated their naturally extended lives to fighting over gravel

B. They're selfish. They don't want some uppity young clone taking their place.

C. The clones are only good for cannon fodder.

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>>86130459
This. They are even somehow facing the TF2 mercs against the now aged-up TF Classic mercs.

>>86130657
And that the medic has been implanting animal wombs into them without their knowledge.

>>86130459
It should also be said that the tone of TF2's narrative fits the gameplay. Overwatch's story has the tone of a generic heroic story, but the gameplay is BOOM HEADSHOTS where character relationships don't matter to team composition.

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you're all forgetting the interview issue where Ms Pauling mentions the blue team and the administrator just says fuck it and use what they already had (thus, meet the team trailers), if the blus were just clones why would they bother with interviewing them at all?

The explanation is simple, the TF2 video game exists inside the comic universe as a game, during the catching up comic Saxton Hale refers to it as a "dramatization", since its a game, the idea of both teams sharing the same models make sense, and as far as we know the similiarities between the team members in the comics (i think the interview comic showed both teams IIRC) could just be a coincidence or just a funny fact that is never adressed, like someone who looks exactly like you and came from the same country but from a different place

>>86129776
>Not being turned on by the perfect All-American patriot specimen.

>>86119912
Of course you can ignore the hats, that doesn't change they stopped developing meaningful content for the game in favor of endless community made cosmetic items instead. I mean fuck, the weapon skin update was the final straw for me.

>>86130770
scratch that first part, just checked the comic and the administrator refuses to interview BLU because the director knew too much

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>>86130786
>All-American patriot
He ate communist soup.
That man is a traitor to his country and it's people.

>>86130763
Exactly. At the very least they could have done a "Heroes vs. Villains" sort of angle and at least give some sort of half-assed justification for how the game fits in the universe.

>>86130980
He had to eat communist soup, but his patriotic belly pushed it out as fast as possible in what Americans call pride, and what biologist refer to as violent diarrhea

>>86130980
>>86131048
He invaded Commieland, fought Sov bears, and planted his Flagpole in fertile Russian soil, he is a hero.

>>86130980
At least he's fucking a Communist now every night and several times during the day

>>86119913
They make the best couple in /co history.

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Truly, the only thing that interests me about Overwatch are the memes.

The porn and the memes.
Two things.

>>86119913
All of this is amazing, especially last panel.

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>Overwatch Cartoon
http://youtu.be/HwCf8eoXz4o
>TF2 Cartoon
http://youtu.be/JhSQcMgKgXA
>During the MvM Arc.
http://youtu.be/8ztA2WQJv2c
http://youtu.be/R3FaR4bUVHk
In all honesty it would be a pretty good comedy and/or action show, it as plenty of room for different styles, it could be story driven or it could have status quo with the respawn machine/Magic as the cause of it.

>>86131453
is there any crossover porn?

>>86130514
OLD?! Listen here, maggot, when you're crawling through ten miles of Nazi entrails, grasping your own entrails to keep them untainted by UnAmerican commie entrails, THEN you can talk about OLD!

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>>86131453
Seriusly tho, why is it so easy to make memes out of it?

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>>86131580
>The scout sonic run

>>86130750
hoovy has baboon heart though.

>>86131994
MEGA baboon. Mega.

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>>86131828
>is there any crossover porn?

>>86130763
>It should also be said that the tone of TF2's narrative fits the gameplay.
How? The story invame is RED vs. BLU but rarely in supplementary material do you see them interact

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>>86130763
>>86131025

>>86130454
>>86130394
This work

>>86130514
The soldier is technically pretty old.

>>86131833
Bravo sir
>>86132366
I know, but he still does look younger than his age says

>>86131837
it's casual as fuck

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>>86131837
The characters are very broad and kinda vague tropes shaped into people shapes, people have been throwing headcannons and jokes, exploiting quotes, and we got what sticked.
some are kneeslappers, while most others are forced and annoying.
>Pharah ain't got no limbs.
>Mei bodyweight argument I'd like her with some chub
>MLG pro babby D.va .
>Who gets to bang mercy.
>Zarya's existence
My favorites are Dad 76 and EDGY REAPER

>>86117415
Does anyone actually play TF2 anymore? Last time I opened the game they introduced that new matchmaking update, and based on my experience, it's virtually unplayable.

Did they get rid of it, or did people just put up with it?

>>86132611
They fixed most, emphasis on most, of the issues.

>>86132611
They changed it, added map selection, fixed the wait times etc.
Playing 6v6 comp has dramatically increased my skill and effort with demo and medic.

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>>86132583
>EDGY REAPER
My favorite one.

>>86132611
I lay it almost everyday. Mostly casual matchmaking cause I like just messing around with people who don't know the game yet.

>>86132846
What's the name of the artist?

>>86132302
>How? The story invame is RED vs. BLU but rarely in supplementary material do you see them interact
Most of the story doesn't have to do with stuff within the game itself outside of the occasional events, but that's because the lore focuses on side-stuff outside of the RED vs. BLU conflict. Multiples of one character on teams can easily be handwaved by some crazy explanation like they're all clones or convenient lookalikes since the franchise is largely comedic and outlandish in nature (or even just ignore it and lampshade it for jokes). Overwatch on the other hand doesn't have that benefit since the story is supposed to be taken at face value.

>>86132302
Probably less gameplay and more character interactions and general style. It's a cartoony, over the top gorefest and the characters are all sadistic psychos who would probably shoot eachother without the money incentive.

>>86132924
it's written right there man

>>86133406
Shit, i need to go to bed

>>86117755
no way. has it really been that long? fuck me they really cut down on tf2's department.

>>86133505
The next installment is tapping like 61 pages if I heard things right.

>>86133587
Semi-right.
The artist has finished her 61st page.

It's actually 70 in total.

>>86131208
Yes he's penetrating Soviet soil and planting American Seeds OF FREEDOM! Soon she'll be as American as Hotdogs and Hamburgers.

>>86133638
Okay. I only heard it secondhand.

>>86117477
It doesn't need to have a plot, like some trailers for certain updates and many SFM shorts; it could be basically the latter, with ridiculous over the top episodic plots too, the only difference would be actual dialogue.

>>86117415
I feel like only MvM would really work unless Blu and Red have faceless mooks in addition to the 9 classes. Otherwise, since each class is a character, you'd have to explain respawns or lose characters really fast.

>>86132611
I still play. I don't have a good enough computer for overwatch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56B4TVnnaH4

LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH
EVERYTIME I DO IT MAKES ME LAUGH

>>86130459
I mean yea that's literally what I said

>>86131580
>MvM Arc videos
That dude just recreated Evangelion scenes.

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>>86137045
I know.
If the show was real and focused more on action, the mercs would obviously use teamwork and outsmart the robots. Or brute strength it like in actual MvM.
My point is that regardless of direction, I'd really enjoy a tf2 show whether it be action or comedy.
And that video is God-tier, SFM is a bitch to use and I was hype when the second one finally came out.

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>>86117477


don't you see the comics anon?

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>>86117724

mi negro, i din't got this unusual stainless pot just to have it there and only play one game at the time

>>86137532
You gotta name it "Dirty Dishes."

>>86118427
She's interested in the scout in that bread vid that came out a long time ago.

>>86117415
Somebody post the "nope" meme.

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>>86120952
this summarizes the differences perfectly.

>>86117415
No. It's best as a game. Like most games.

>>86137631
https://youtu.be/gvdf5n-zI14

>>86137631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6OtFKNDPUc

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>>86137571
THANKS DUDE!! i been thinking for a good name for it since ever.

>>86129365
Cloning yourself doesn't do anything to help YOU survive, anon.

Seems like transplanting brains is a step too far, even for Medic.

>>86138224
Nah, he just hasn't figured out how to do it.

Yet.

After all, your brain ages just as your body does.
After several transplants you'd eventually be a vegetable in a perfectly healthy body.

>>86118503
>broom closet
>not a hat closet

>>86119892
That's a shame, buddy. It was really, really, fun, especially if you had a community of friends to play it with.

I'll probably never have an equivalent to that experience of playing it with a bunch of friends for over a year straight again, with any other game.

>>86130750
That's Valve catering to the "lol so randumb XD" crowd

>>86130980
>>86131048
>>86131152
>>86131208
>>86133660
If he hates commies, why is he wearing RED?

>>86141137
>Implying such a thing isnt what Medic would actually do.
>Implying it isn't going to be relevant in the future, somehow.

>>86125051
Nice Try Boomsta

>>86141173
The American flag is RED white and blue after all, the commies can't steal our patriotic colors!

Who has the best bantz in the game and why is it Spy?

>Well, off to visit your mother!
>The Black Scottish Cyclops: Now extinct!
>What's the matter? FAT got your tongue!?

>>86117477
Have you even seen the Meet the Team videos? The Mercs are well-polished, distinctive archetypes with just enough flesh and interactions to make an interesting crash-and-bang comedy.

>>86117724
>because hey, there is no furries on Overyiff

>>86127817
That doesn't really count when it was in beta for like three years

>>86119813
>robin walker left valve
Source? I can only find a single video saying that he wasn't working on TF2 anymore.

>>86126464
>and then a crocket happens

>>86129615
>the comic-in-comic isn't recursive

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you will never have a gf to huddah with

Remember when /v/ shit its pants about Meet the Pyro because MLP?

Good times...

>>86119513
>They both just look like the Scout in drag.
>implying this is bad
The other models are generic waifu trash

>>86119632
My sister does

>>86117477
Have you read the comics? Also watch the Expiration Date video. It feels like a pilot episode.

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>>86118043
>Bi monthly they said
I mean you say that...

>>86131833
Fem soldier must have same voice actor as soldier.

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>>86117724
Never can go wrong with TF2.

>>86137532
What was the alert anon? i have to know

>>86143687
Doesn't bimonthly either mean twice a month or every two months?

>>86144385
The login crate.

>>86144396
More believable for the latter, but even then they couldn't deliver.

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>>86143896
TF2 is always good. Well, save the first month of MYM. After that, it's pretty good again.

>>86144470
TF2 seems to have had quite a few changes. I was gone from May to Sep so getting back I missed all that bullshit.

>>86128055

>Games
>art

Fuck off. Who is the artist then? The people who made the game or the people playing it? Because without the player the piece is incomplete.

Come back when you can gladly proclaim Basketball or Football as art alongside games.

>>86144767
What a load of pretentious crap. It's the same as saying a painting is incomplete before someone sees it.

>>86117468
This is the best assessment of Valve I have ever read.