SMILE, GOD DAMN IT, SMILE!

>>86104770
You wouldn't smile either if you were stuck in a Snyder movie

>>86104770
>please dont take this hearing seriously
>please don't be emotionally affected by bad things

This the DCEU Anon. Happiness and fun are for kiddies who like Marvel flicks while real films are dark and depressing.

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>>86104910
>this post

>>86104770
I thought snyder was kicked out. Why is he still directing JL?

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>>86104897
He is in a constant state with the same expression: the expression of having a shit too big to come out of your asshole, and the thing has hard bits than go cutting it all the way.

Its the exact same expression of OP.

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>>86104967
because his movies still make money, sadly.

Thank fuck Green Lantern isn't in the one he's doing. Probably.

One character he can't get his claws into.

Answer me why would he smile before entering a hearing that is trying to paint him as a horrible person for crimes he didn't commit. Who would smile at that?

You guys don't want a human character, but a smiling robot who never let his emotions affect him.

Superman is not Bruce Wayne. He's not an emotionless jerk who fake to be a carefree playboy.

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>>86104770
You know what confuses me? People used to complain that superman was too nice or a "boy scout" l, yet when Snyder and Nu 52 superman come around, everyone is triggered.
Explain this /co/.

>>86105037

That's a lie. He smiled plenty in the movie, but only when appropriate.

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>>86105083
>Answer me why would he smile before entering a hearing that is trying to paint him as a horrible person for crimes he didn't commit.

Because he's fucking SUPERMAN. He should inspire us, even during his own personal worst times.

Something you would realise if you actually read the comics.

You fucking shithead DCEU faggots are the worst thing to ever have come out of comics.

Go suck off snyder. Preferably inside a gas chamber.

Even if he smiled, it wouldn't had made the movie better.

>>86105100
Different people and even if it weren't, wanting less of something doesn't mean you want the opposite extreme.

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>>86104770
Not only did he smile in the movie, but you missed an opportune chance to say "Just Smile, Darn you, Smile".

>>86105100
>People used to complain that superman was too nice or a "boy scout"

Loud minority

>yet when Snyder and Nu 52 superman come around, everyone is triggered.

Versus loud majority. Entirely different people.

Pretty obvious when you think about it, pal.

>>86105157

Superman in the comics doesn't smile all the times. He isn't a fake.

>>86105190
>smiling as your girlfriend's friend just had his brains blown out
truly the superman we deserve

>>86105199
all the time =/= the fucking never of the DCEU

>>86105083
>Superman is not Bruce Wayne. He's not an emotionless jerk who fake to be a carefree playboy.
...Actually he kind of is, just in reverse.

Superman is the immutable hero that inspires hope act that Clark puts on. He hides the fact that he's sad or troubled by things because people need a symbol to believe,

When Clark wants to be sad he goes off to the Fortress of Solitude to cry it out. Because if people see their icon being weak, they lose hope.

>>86105157
I have read many Superman comics and nothing I have seen in 95% of them suggest he would smile in a scenario such as the OP.

>>86105243

He smiled in the movies.

>>86105190
So he smiles before getting violent?

What a great Superman
Why don't you post when he grinned during the fight with Batman then?

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I've found that 99% of the time, those who 'enjoy' Synders supes tend to think the Earth One and New52 Supermen are the best shit.

It's like they've never actually read anything good with the character in it.

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>>86104770
It took hours

>>86105165
Yeah it couldn't have been better because it was alrighty top notch.

>>86105254
Mostly because in those Superman comics he's not put into such a stupid situation to begin with.

Would the series be saved if Clark embraced full on Hero of Hope Superman when he's reborn? Would it make up for past mistakes at all?

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>>86105347
it was shit, mate. They need to nuke the franchise and start over.

>>86105244
>I watched My Hero Academia and this is what I think Superman is
Stop.

>>86105368
It would make a possible better movie. It wouldn't do anything to fix previous ones.

>>86105157
Fuck off. There is literally no reason why he should smile in this scene whatsoever. On the other hand not having him smile while saving people in the montage was kind of a huge, wasted opportunity.

>>86105289

I like Snyder's Superman and when i think of comparisson i mostly think of John Byrne's Superman.

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Okay anon, just for you.

>>86105107
In one scene.

The entire fucking movie.

Maybe two scenes in both movies together.

>>86105289
Not so.
Mos is my 2nd favorite movie and I am very very meh on Earth One, I like the tone & style but Clark is way too emo and unlikable, far worse then he was in the DCEU.
New 52 I have read 90% of and its more good then bad but not much in the way of standouts.
The whole depowered arc was mostly bad that said the vandal savage backstory issue was great.

>>86105419
>its like seeing a shiny pokemon

>>86105384
Actually I was thinking specifically of that comic where Superman is reading the daily death toll and grieving over all the people he couldn't help but suuuuuure keep on trying to push your bullshit.

>>86105419
NO
IN THE MOVIE
IN THE BEGINNING
WHILE SAVING PEOPLE

>>86105083
>Bruce is emotionless

Jesus, stop talking

>>86105100
Captain America is written as a boy scout and is the most popular of the MCU tight now...

>>86105419
>outside of the actual movies Henry is charming and likable as fuck
Snyder is like a talent black hole.

>>86105434

He smiled when entering his apartment, he smiled when saving the Mexican girl, he smirked when fighting Batman when he found he got his powers back, he smiled when he saved Lois and so on.

>>86105411
>There is literally no reason why he should smile in this scene whatsoever.

To have him inspire. You know, do what superman is supposed to do.

Also how about not looking like you're about to burn the fucking place down, when you're about to talk to people who are afraid of literally that.

I feel like Im caught in a loop. Snyder shitposting isnt going away is it?

>>86105476

Bruce keeps his emotions in check and when he's playing the Brucie persona he shows a entirely different personality, constantly smiling and makng banter.

>>86105412
Even that only works when you ignore the context and meaning behind most of Byrne's decisions.

>>86105083
The same reason a fucking parent smiles when taking their kid to a funeral, to reassure them that it's all going to be ok.

He could have at least smiled when he was saving people, put them at ease and all. The whole time he's rescuing lives he looks like someone who's just resigned to doing a job they would rather not be doing, that's not what fucking Superman should be conveying with a look.

>>86105434
1.) At the dinner at the bar girl.
2.) When he reassures Lois that he can do things other people can't before he cauterizes her wound.
3.) In the interrogation room with Lois.
4.) His intro to the daily planet.
5.) Before he tackles the dictator.
6.) Bath scene with Lois
7.) Saving the Mexican girl
8.) After the first dose of Kryptonite.

>>86105487
because Captain America is a no name character that barely anybody cared about

He doesn't have the same pop culture baggage that characters like Superman or Aquaman have.

They are literally victims of their own popularity.

>>86105503
Ziggy says you can leap when Snyder makes a superhero movie that is rated fresh on rotten tomatoes.

>>86105494

If Superman smiled when entering the hearing to answer for his crimes the news would say that took the entire thing as a joke and found satisfaction in all the crimes he committed.

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>>86105503
It's been going hard since 2013. What makes you think its even close to stopping.

Just wait til Wonder Woman tanks and or is shit.

..and I fucking love wonder woman. Can't wait to see how they ruin her.

>>86105494
The cooks with the kill all alienS signs out front are not going to be swayed by a smile, they are likely gonna see it as sadistic mightier then thouness.

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>This is too silly for the DCEU

>>86105566
Nobody is complaining about Batafleck or Spiderman.

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>What a corny boy scout. How totally unrealistic.

>>86105618

Even DCEU Superman would smile during something like that.

Show me a panel of Superman smiling while people accuse him of something he didn't do. Please.

>>86105644
>using Injustice Superman

>>86105587
>the news
So? whats your fucking point?

The news has zero input over supermans personality.

>>86105657

So wait, people can't defend the movies? I thought it was a discussion, not a safe space.

>>86105289
Same. Literally the same people most of the time.

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>This is a boring mary sue.

>>86105494
>Also how about not looking like you're about to burn the fucking place down


How do people even arrive to these conclusions. Again, superman's purpose is being inspiring, but he can also be solemn and serious when the situation requires him to. A congressional hearing is a formal event, he cannot just smile at the senator's face cause she would think he is mocking her. I'm not saying superman shouldn't smile, If anything that's what Snyder's movies lack the most, but getting triggered because he didn't smile in that particular scene is just ludicrous.

>>86105672

Yeah, but Superman smiling while answering for crimes he didn't commit wouldn't inspire people with confidence or hope, but rather make people think that he doesn't things seriously.

Context, nigga.

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>>86105692
>...(but this is totally okay for some reason)

>>86105618
So fucking good. If the DCEU shit actually had scenes like this people might like their Superman.

>>86105590
>Wonder Woman gets press as first female lead superhero fillm like its some sort of landmark
>I like Wonder Woman
>Its mediocre at best, dogshit as worst
>Marvel releases Captain Marvel and everyone praises it
Its what Ive come to expect. Which is a real fucking bummer. Spoiler Alert: It will under perform given the other films its competing with that time window and they'll crank out a poorly edited bland film

I think DC should have avoided the whole destruction angle. Instead of having this whole smorsgasboard of collapsed buildings and dead people, Man Of Steel should have been about that SOMEHOW, Superman saves the day -WITHOUT- turning half the city into rubble, and maybe him succeeding in making the battle take place in wasteland (which was the problem- I know he tried, but trying is worth shit)or somewhere he can cut loose without, I dont know murdering thousands in the process. I know the writers wanted to convey how dangerous superhuman conflict is- but Superman is about hope and justice and the inspiration.

You could have ended the movie with Superman helping rebuild the little damage he performed, and ended the movie on a positive note, like that "Superman is for everyone" line.

DC just had a fucking grimdark boner, and it failed.

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I used to say there was never a bad iteration of Alfred, but this movie did the impossible.
Not once did he ever feel like an Alfred, just a snarky sidekick.

>>86104770
This is the same Superman that would crash someone's car (with no guarantee he wouldn't injury him), trash his car and threaten him about not showing his face again even if they are asking for his help.

The same guy that thrashed the military drone almost hitting the general's car and told them to fuck off because he is not going to be watched by anyone.

He is not a hero, he is a bully that only acts as a hero because he feels obligated in doing so and because his girlfriend, for whom he would leave anything and fly to the other side of the world in an instant to save her while ignoring people in need of help on the other side of the bay, lives on the planet.

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>>86105684
The only safe space is DCEU /tv/ faggots pretending that their universe isnt shit. I want a good DC movie verse, but WB has fucked up

>>86105419
YOU'VE BROKEN THE NATURAL ORRRRRRDERRRRRR

>>86105692
>lying to someone just to be "nice"

if the cop were actually useful or doing their job there would be no need of these heroes

especially not Nightwing

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>I just wouldn't be able to take him seriously if he did something like this, you know? I mean look at it. he's wearing a costume!

>>86105776
>>lying to someone
Spotted the Snyderfag.

>>86105710
Why the fuck is SnySupes always looking down at the ground?

Is he trying to remember what he had for breakfast? Looking out for cracks in the sidewalk? Upset he forgot his sunglasses?

>>86105801
Superman is smart, he wouldn't actually believe that a fat cop is actually useful or doing his job properly

>>86105822
>Why the fuck is SnySupes always looking down at the ground?
Because Christ allegories.

At a point it seems more like some of you are just actively searching to rile yourselves up.

Post me pages of Superman smiling....

>... when fighting a enemy where lives are at stake
>... during a huge catastrophe with tons of dead while the enemy is still at large
>... when watching news of bad things alone
>... when discussing things that disturb with Lois or his mother
>... when exerting force trying to save people
>... when approaching a hearing where he's going to answer for bad things he didn't do

Please.

>>86105752
Well, the movie isn't about Batman and we don't see him on butler duty.

>>86105780
This is more or less what I wanted, especially during the senate meeting that was a complete waste

>>86105780
Damn it supes, it's going to take a week to get a contractor to fix that concrete.

>>86105822
Because Superman is always looking down on humanity from up high.
Snyder is actually the Lex of our universe, just without the intelligence.

>>86105684
You can't defend the indefensible. All you faggots do is post the exact same shit over and over again
>you just don't like him because not muh superman
>you just didn't understand the movie
>critics are biased
>b-batman and superman have totally killed in the movies before
>t-they've also killed in the comics before in this random elseworlds or the golden age
>h-he's not superman yet
>he totally smiled in that this one scene if you squint real hard
All you fucking do is desperately reach to try and convince yourselves that the movies are good.

I'm a huge fucking DC fan, all I fucking want is a great DCEU, but I'm not going to try and delude myself into thinking that's what we've got. I'd rather be fucking honest so that when this shit eventually fails miserably (and it will) that when they start again we get proper fucking adaptions of these characters.

These are objectively terrible films, accept that and move on. Deep down you know it's true.

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>He drank the Snyder cider

>>86105752
I KNOW! I was thinking "old Tony Stark" the entire goddamn time. I was expecting Iron Man to bust out any second, and then the Bat-Suit came.

>>86105831
This, Superman would shame the lardass for being a sack of fat. Its the most logical action.

>>86105771

No, safe space is the NOT MUH faggots that want to complain about the movies without having to actually address and explain their complaints.

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>>86105863
>Snyder is actually the Lex of our universe, just without the intelligence.

>>86105780
this sound so hollow when coming from someone with all the powers as Superman

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>>86105839
>>... when fighting a enemy where lives are at stake

>>86105846
HE COULD HAVE TALKED, HE COULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING, ANYTHING

HE COULD HAVE GIVEN HIS PIECE, HIS HEROIC SPEECH, THEN PROFESSOR X COULD HAVE BLOWN UP

FUCK
FUCK
FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUCK

>>86105806
That list is nowhere near big enough....

>>86105868
name 1 movie Batman that is not George Clooney that hasn't killed anyone, at all.

>>86105889
Faggot, if you've been here long enough you would know most have given up trying to explain it to you people. All valid criticism fall on deaf ears hear, and people are tired of answering shitposts.

>>86105839
>Snyder's movie was too depressing for Superman to ever have a reason to smile
Got it.

>>86105667
>missing the point

>>86105928
Exhibit A

>>86105923
Oh I know. There's a 20 book series worth of text of the same shit on that sub. Faggots standing in their echo chamber jerking eachother off, while snyder watches over.

>>86105780

Wow, what a terrible page. Who wrote this? Zack Snyder? Not only did he ruined the concrete Superman didn't smile. told people how to conduct their lives, left the crowd alone when something bad could happen and, worst, during all of this didn't smiled not even once.

WHERE ARE THE SMILES, /co/? I see Lois smiling, but not Superman. THIS IS NOT MUH SUPERMAN!

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>>86105411
>n the other hand not having him smile while saving people in the montage was kind of a huge, wasted opportunity.

I agree. But that was a smart move in the movie extended edition, but a terrible move in the theatrical cut.


In the extended cut we have the famous people talking about him as a god, an alien overloard etc, all what we hear and see makes him look foreign, godly, the filters (the same they use later during the doomsday fight) make everything look "dreamy". That's how people see him, and then the montage ends with one guy asking "what if he is only a good guy trying to do good shit?", to then jumo to the most HUMAN clark scene we have in BvS, him calling his mother at night asking for advice just being a son, a son that needs his mom.

That was great and was a good excuse for not having him smiling in the montage, he needed to look godly to make the whole thing make sense and make the clark thing more powerful.

The theater cut on the other hand...

People talk about him like a god and we look at him doing god stuff... and that's it.

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>>86105839
>>... when exerting force trying to save people

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>>86104770
Sorry, thats banned in snyder shit

This movie ruled pretty hard, it's basically Zack Snyder's Excalibur. The negative reactions to it mirror the reception of Exclalibur on release. To quote Roger Ebert "a record of the comings and goings of arbitrary, inconsistent, shadowy, figures who are not heroes but simply giants run amok. Still, it's wonderful to look at."

To understand what Snyder was trying to accomplish you should read his thoughts on Excalibur.

>www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1002-Summer-2010/Screening-Room-Zack-Snyder.aspx

For more on the Excalibur connection

>waltermetz.com/batman-vs-superman-dawn-of-justice-2016/

>>86105959
BZZZT wrong answer.

>>86105969
>WHERE ARE THE SMILES, /co/?
In panel 3.

>>86105839
How fucking dumb are you? No one is fucking saying he should be smiling 24/7 of course he can get serious. The problem with Snyder's shitstain for a Superman is that he NEVER fucking smiles or his happy or saves people without looking bored or talks to everyday people or has fun or inspires people or doesn't murder them. What's the point of Batman fucking existing in the DCEU when Superman is already fucking darker than Batman should be?

>>86105969
Third panel looks like a reassuring smile to me. Looks to me like he's trying to inspire confidence in people too.

But whatever, you're just shitposting. Why don't you go back to /tv/, champ?

>>86105918
>posting an image where he was very purposefully faking being deranged.

>>86106008
Great. Snyder made a wonderful Excalibur homage.
Maybe eventually he'll get around to doing a Superman movie.

>>86106025
>>86106015

That isn't a smile.

>>86104770
YOU KNOW THIS OLD WORLD IS A GREAT WORLD AFTER ALL!

>>86106032
He did a great movie, MoS you should check it out.

>>86106022

>The problem with Snyder's shitstain for a Superman is that he NEVER fucking smiles or his happy or saves people without looking bored or talks to everyday people or has fun or inspires people or doesn't murder them.

That's wrong, though. Superman smiled in the movies, Superman saved people while smiling, Superman talked to people, Superman inspired people.

>>86105997
>literally just stands there moping while people around him burn to death
defend that Snyder fags

>>86106041
And here we see how Snyderfags love to talk about subtlety yet can't even tell if someone is smiling if it's not a full on Joker grin.

>>86105920

Lex would never Superman say his piece because that would fuck his plans to ruin Superman.

>>86106087
He helps the survivors after that.

>>86106088

That isn't a smile, but Reeves fucked up mouth full of horse-teeth.

>>86104770

Why is he always making this face? It's so annoying to look at.

>>86106079
>Superman inspired people.

no he didn't

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>>86105978
>Maybe he's just a guy trying to do the right thing

Yeah I've still got faith in the DCEU to be honest

>>86105918
How is superman pretending to be a psycho to scare away the elite supposed to prove your point?
>>86105986
Lifting a log is nothing for comic book superman.

>>86106159

So you didnt even saw the movie?

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Remember that time snyder tried to get away with batman murdering by saying its not really murder when its done by proxy?

>"So, I tried to do it by proxy. Shoot the car they're in, the car blows up or the grenade would go off in the guy's hand, or when he shoots the tank and the guy pretty much lights the tank himself."

and

>"we don't have room for Jimmy Olsen in our big pantheon of characters, but we can have fun with him, right?"

>one of supermans most beloved characters
>shot in the head while superman watches from afar
>fun

and

>"If you're a comic book fan, you know that I didn't change Superman."

and we can't leave out the best one of all

>"I kinda came to the conclusion also that they couldn't really talk in their suits, um, with any credibility..."

>"... more than 4 or 5 lines and you start to notice, like wait, these are two guys ... one guys dressed up like a bat and the other has a big red 'S' on his chest, and they're being super serious about how mad they are at each other..."

Hack Snyder doesn't think superheroes talking in costume has credibility. Thinks people would not take it seriously.

This is the guy who has been put in charge of a THIRD film. We truly live in the darkest universe.

The Anti-Life equation runs rampant and not one of you is noticing.

>>86106139
Denial is unbecoming.

>>86106159

Yes, he did. After MoS Superman had tons of fans. People only started turning on him after the capitol bombing, but after his death they all went back to worshiping as a hero. Even Batman was inspired by him.

>>86106159
He did when he sacrificed his life to save the Earth.

>>86106124
>just gotta stand here and contemplate whats happened, while there's a guy in the hall just outside with has face melting off

Classic Superman right there. Really feeling the inspiration and hope

>>86106072
Nothing says Great Superman Movie like his dads telling him to let children drown and rule over humanity as their god.

>>86106185
Deadshot has more charm than Superman. Let that sink in. Let that percolate for a bit.

>>86106079
Yes. He smiled more than he didn't smile in his superman persona.

>>86106185

>Hack Snyder doesn't think superheroes talking in costume has credibility. Thinks people would not take it seriously.

Snyder was talking about a single scene that he cut out because he felt it looked stupid and tacky. In the movie itself Superman and Batman constantly talk in costume.

>>86105190
Jesus, he sure is on his way to be bald.

>>86106159
Men are still good, anon. As questionable as Snyder's decision to have batman kill in the movie was, the idea of superman getting him out of his darkest point was fantastic. Cause that's what superman does.

>>86106221
Sure, according to /tv/ that's totally what happened.

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>>86106204
So in the end he won't have inspired anything and Lex was right.

>Tfw Superman only cared about saving Lois during the metropolis battle scene

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>>86104770
>SMILE, GOD DAMN IT, SMILE!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBWRHUVH3Z4

>>86105190

He smiles then he smashes a guy right through several walls which I'm pretty sure would have killed him.

He is more ultra-man than superman this guy.

>>86105752
Was there even one character in the movie that was done properly?

>>86106275
>posting hack writers

>>86105100
Sometimes when you get what you want, you realize it wasn't really what you wanted.

>>86106079
Jesus fucking christ.
>Superman smiled in the movies
He smiled once or fucking twice in both movies combined, and half those fucking times were for literally a second or while he was about to kill/hurt someone.
>Superman saved people while smiling
If you're going to post that one fucking freezframe of him maybe smiling for half a second while he saved that girl please fucking don't. If that's how desperate you are to claim he smiles while saving people then you've already lost.
>Superman talked to people
Who? It sure as hell wasn't the people he saved or people on the street.
>Superman inspired people
No he didn't

The fucking fact that in order to "prove" Superman did any of those things you have to have to post a fucking zoomed in, brightened 1 second screen shot says more than words.
>S-superman technically smiled for this shot here
>H-he totally saved people in this 1 minute long silent montage
You could almost feel the spite from Snyder as he put those scenes in
>FINE, THEY FUCKING WANT SUPERMAN TO SAVE PEOPLE WELL HERE IT IS. HAPPY NOW????

>>86106302

Superman in that scene hugged the guy before throwing his own body through the walls.

>>86106312
>Any writer that doesn't support my argument is a hack!
We've been down this road a dozen times already and it's only going to end when you guys have declared literally everyone except Snyder to be a hack.

>>86106124
>if you hadn't stood around crying while people were literally burning to death we estimate you could've saved at least 50 more peoples lives Superman and at least another 100 from having life lasting injuries
That's muh Superman

>>86106158
>references to Excalibur
and that makes it a good movie how?
>I-I totally put in some deep imagery and metaphors
>that makes it good right?
Snyder is like a fucking first term student in a film making course.

>>86106326

Superman smiled plenty in MoS and a bit in BvS.
Superman smiled plenty in MoS while saving Lois and in BvS while saving the Mexican girl.
Superman talked plenty to people in MoS to decide about things or formulate plans and plenty in BvS while investigating about Batman.
Superman inspired the military in MoS and plenty of people in the beginning of BvS and at the end.

>>86106420
>Superman inspired the military in MoS
ha ha sure. He inspired them to do their jobs. That they were ALREADY DOING BEFORE HE DID ANYTHING.

Keep reaching.

>>86106420
>Superman smiled plenty in MoS

Name 5 instances where he did so as Superman.

>>86106185
Remember that time Snyder killed Superman's pal Jimmy Olsen by having him shot in the head?

Or what about that time Snyder said Superheroes talking while in costume was silly?

Or (my personal favorite) that time Snyder said Batman would be raped in prison.

Classic Snyder.

>>86106444

One of the biggest themes of MoS was trust. Superman sacrifice and attitudes inspired the army into trusting him to the point where they were banking their lives and the fate of the world on him and his plan.

>>86106204
>After MoS Superman had tons of fans
You only know that because the movie TOLD you.

Because why should that hack Snyder waste time showing Superman interacting with people when he could have him silently floating above them while they reach out to him.

>>86106467
He smiled before trashing the guy's truck at the beginning
He smiled when flying for the first time
and...uh....when kissing Lois while watching Metropolis destroyed at the end

>>86106411
The fact that it's a good movie is entirely separate from the Excalibur aspect. I just think it's interesting what made Snyder create something so radically divergent from the rest of superhero cinema.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlINHSnUx9k

Probably my favourite scene in a cape movie

>>86106507

Goddamn, i'm not even talking about the news segments, which, by the way, was there to show how people viewed Superman and the major disconnect between their views and how Superman really is. So that's a bad example.

>>86106487
>Superman sacrifice and attitudes inspired the army into trusting him
Yeah they totally trusted him. They didn't have satellites tracking him after the fact at all.

>>86106523
The movie this scene should have came from, would have been fucking amazing.

>>86106340
>Snyder fags 100% unironically say this shit
it's actually pretty sad.

>>86106512
>I just think it's interesting what made Snyder create something so radically divergent from the rest of superhero cinema.
Yes. He was incredibly divergent by deconstructing the characters. No one has ever done that before. Ever.

>>86105492
>>86105550
THOSE DON'T COUNT

REEEEEE

>>86106509

The first instance he wasn't even superman yet, and that's 3 not 5 pal.

>>86106411
>Snyder is like a fucking first term student in a film making course.

That would be a pretty good argument if you knew anything about movies.

Also that's not what that anon was saying.
Also as for "metaphors" and imagery, sure, they can make a movie better. In the case of BvS the "symbolism" gave you a lot of information about the characters. Tiny sequences reinforced the themes and the arcs for the characters. The use of filters to expand the relationship between the characters the use of images that would mirror Superman and Batman.

Bruce has an image of Michael in his parent's grave, Micheal with a rade cape and a blue suit, and yet he see himself slaying a demon with his spear. He is Blind to what is happening.

The micheal image? mirrors Superman #1.

All that stuff makes a movie better.


Now, the word you are looking for is STORY, does context and farther exploration of themes and characters improve the story and Storytelling?

NO. Does it makes the movie as a whole better? SURE. Storyfags needs to go fuck themselves and stop watching only movies for kids.

>>86106546

That was after the crisis, when things died down and they wanted to learn more about him. Still, Superman reminded them that trust are a two-way street. In BvS Swanwhick was one of Superman supporters.

>>86106420
You cannot be fucking serious?
>Superman talked plenty to people in MoS to decide about things or formulate plans and plenty in BvS while investigating about Batman.
You mean Clark Kent begrudgingly talked to people and Superman occasionally talked to them when he needed to make a plan?

Where are the parts where Superman just talks to people because he wants to?

>Superman inspired the military in MoS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You know what, I'm sick of people bashing these movies just because they're over gritty and edgy, you retards don't understand what happened and keeps happening.

The DCEU had no hope from the beggining, there was no way it could even reach the level of popularity the MCU has because they did everything you can concievably do with a cape film already, anything Warner tried would at best come off as a ripoff of that and by the time The Avengers rolled out the public was too attached to those characters to give a welcome to anything that wasn't more Batman. They tried to go in the opposite direction and make their movies dark and "realistic" but that obviously didn't work either because of reasons we've discussed to death already. Still they manage to be profitable (even if barely so) and at the end of the day that's what matters to the studios, so they'll cling to the Snyder take on things because the alternative is doomed to fail anyway, and in all probability it would have failed in a much worse manner. A smiley, sunny Superman movie would have done great with critics and neckbeards but probably wouldn't even have made its real production costs back.

>>86106574
They hadn't done it to Batman or Superman on film before.

>>86106574
He wasn't deconstructing the character.
What people miss is that Snyder is actually a Superman fan he just has his own personal vision of Superman.

>>86106618
>but probably wouldn't even have made its real production costs back

I was with you until you made this idiotic statement.

>>86106635
>He wasn't deconstructing the character.
His producer (and wife!) said that's what he was doing.

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>>86106606

>>86106487
You mean the same military that keep shooting him until that one guy told them he's not their enemy? Or maybe you mean when they were tracking him at the end of MoS? Or maybe when the general guy from MoS wouldn't come forward with the information about the bullets to clear his name? Or maybe in Suicide Squad when they put together a team capable of stopping him?

He inspired no one
He didn't smile
He wasn't happy
He never talked to anyone

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>>86106617

Look, man. Whatever. I give up.

You guys just want to bitch and will twist everything or make it a lot bigger. I'm tired of this shit.

So whatever. You keep going on about how Pa Kent told Clark to drawn kids. I'll do something else.

>>86106668
Okay maybe that was an exaggeration but my point still stands, a movie like that would have done worse than MoS or BvS at the box office.

>>86106512
>The fact that it's a good movie
But it's not. By literally any measuring stick it's not.
>Snyder create something so radically divergent from the rest of superhero cinema
>Snyder is 2deep4u
>Snyder apologists actually unironically believe this
Sad

>>86106746
>y literally any measuring stick it's not.

Posted by a pleb from /co/ that doesnt watch "grown up" movies, and the only movies he watch at the cinema are Popcorn movies.

>>86106606
>All that stuff makes a movie better.
No. It makes Snyder a pretentious dick. aka a first term film student.

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>>86106688
Double dubs tell the truth.

Snyder ACTUALLY said on an interview that he is ashamed of making two grown men talk while wearing ridicule costumes.

This is why Superman barely talks when being a hero. Snyder don't like this on his auto declared descontruction.

>"No one stays good on this planet"
>"I could kill you in an instant if I wanted"
>“Next time they shine your light in the sky, don't go to it. The Bat is dead. Bury it. Consider this mercy.”

how can people not be inspired by this
superman literally telling Batman to ignore the next time the bat-signal shines and people asking for help

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>>86106618
The DCEU is the way it is so that it can be a good backdrop for Batman.
Modern post-Nolan Batman, that is.

WB always takes the wrong lessons from it's successes and failures, and the success and acclaim of TDK has warped every effort they've produced since.

This is the Superman we're stuck with in the Bat-universe.

>>86106746
>But it's not. By literally any measuring stick it's not.

Many people disagree, as people often do on matters of taste. Don't act like it's science.

>>86106730

A cheerful non-edgy Superman movie would have done way better than Snyder's garbage. This is a literal fact.

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>>86106788
This. People on /co/ are plebs who end shit like comic books, unlike us cultured and sofisticated patricians from /tv/ and reddit.

>>86106618
and yet Rebirth's optimistic mantra is kicking CW2's dark and edgy ass.

Fuck off with this victim complex. You know what people fucking want? Good fucking movies that properly portray these characters. The fact that these movies have made so much money despite being so shit should tell you all you need to know. Imagine how successful they'd be if they were actually good?

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>>86106872
kek

>>86106685
What the fuck? Because of this super deep imagery I now love the DCEU, it literally changes everything.

PRAISE SNYDER.

>>86106835
Enough with this meme, Nolan's batman movies were comedies if compared to MoS and BvS.
They were full of moments just for levity and even quips.

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>>86106847
They already tried Glum Superman.
People went to Superman Returns expecting some new iteration of early Reeves movies, with souped-up SFX.
They flatly rejected the glum version of Superman they got. Snyder supes is more of the same, only this time Lex Luthor is a fucking spastic.

>>86106953
Snyderfags didn't get the memo.

>>86106953
Honestly BvS was way funnier than any of the NolanBat films.

>>86106953

Except the Nolan movies were well written. The villains weren't shoe-horned in. I liked the dynamic of Scarecrow working with Ra's in the first movie, and they made Harvey Dent a credible secondary villain right next to The Joker.

Meanwhile in Snyder's garbage universe, they're dealing with all this realism, symbolism and then suddenly out of nowhere CGI ninja turtle monster in the third act.

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>>86106953
"ITSHH NOT A CHARRR!" wasn't even amusing as a trailer punch-line, and Rises had bludgeoned everyone to badly with stupid dialogue and pounding Zimmer score to elicit a laugh in theaters.

And most unforgiveably, Nolan introduced "Bitch Alfred", and now we have to endure Batman's butler spouting fortune-cooking bullshit and harping on what a dumbass Bruce is non-stop.

>>86106950
Who said it's super deep?
>It's a small image that gaves you insight on what is happening with Bruce being blind by his rage
>It forecast what he will do and what Superman will do
>it pretty much shows they are on the same side

It's small image that enriches the movie.

Taking advantage of your VISUAL medium is a good thing.

You cant even tell whats shitposting or delusion anymore. DCUE is shit, move on and stop enabling WB

>>86107062
>he villains weren't shoe-horned in
Neither was Lex nor Doomsday, nor KGBeast.

>>86107108

Doomsday was shoe-horned into the movie and arguably made it even worse.

>>86107153
I would have preferred Lex in a green powersuit at this point

>>86107108
>shows up in the last 20 minutes to turn the movie into The Death of Superman
>not shoe horning

>>86107065
doesn't change the fact that it was there

people act as if Nolan's movies are some ultra dark shit when in reality the Burton's movie had a way more oppressing and dark atmosphere and feel to them

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>>86107062
>Except the Nolan movies were well written

Well directed. The dialogue was the same garbage Snyder's films are made of.

>The villains weren't shoe-horned in.
We got "le angry ninjas stole your super-device to blow up your city because society a shit"
followed by
"Lulz I'm a randumb arsonist, nothing in your league training or billion dollar arsenal can deal with an edgy clown with a supply of flammables!"
and finally
"I used to work for the angry ninja in the first movie, Imma steal ANOTHER super-device you've kept lying around, and blow up your city because society a shit".

Heat Legend gave a riveting performance, but the villains in the Nolan films were written like garbage for adolescents.

>>86107065
Iron's Alfred was better than Caine. He constantly took the piss out of Bruce, it was great.

>>86107178
Death of superman was a 4 issues long fight. Not story at all.


>>86107153
>hoe-horned

>entire movie has lex playing with Krypton tech
>the last movie WHOLE deal was the Krypton cryptex
>the Babymaker shit was in metropolis
>Lex arc was literally seen himself as Prometheus leading to the Frankenstein shit
>Superman whole arc was about how what happened in MoS was coming back to bite Superman ass

You can say the execution was bad (i agree) but not that was shoe horned.

>>86107261

>The dialogue was the same garbage Snyder's films are made of.

No it wasn't. It had infinitely better dialogue and more memorable lines than "SAVE MARTHA" are you kidding me?

>le angry ninjas

Are you trolling or are you actually dumb enough to not know what the plot of TDKR was?

>>86107294
The fight isnt the issue. The fact that whats supposed to be a earth shattering event is wasted second movie in is kinda shit anon.

Reminder that Snyderfags keep talking like this

Almost like its the same person who frequents these threads

Because they want to stick out for some reason on a anonymous board

But dont want shit for being a namefag

Or not, just a wild guess

But its still a consistency with these threads for some reason

>>86107288
>"I dislike Batman so I want Alfred to be a retard that just makes fun of him constantly instead of the supporting and caring character he should be"

Kill yourself

>>86107294

You must not know what shoe-horned means. Doomsday was forced into the movie as a plot device just to kill superman. There was no foresight or planning into including him. In fact rumors of him making an appearance in the movie appeared really late during shooting.

And no, Lex wasn't playing with Kryptonian tech until the latter part of the film, all he wanted was to import the Kryptonite stone but kept getting cock blocked by the senator cause "muh values" but he does it anyway, and Batman conveniently ruined his plans, but we're meant to believe this was all according to keikaku and that Lex was baiting Batman into fighting Superman...not to mention them making Gotham and Metropolis sister cities like Manhattan and Brooklyn, despite them being completely different places in the comics, just so the fight can again conveniently take place.

One convenient occurrence after the other. The whole movie was a huge botch and awfully written.

>>86107359
Death of Superman WAS a shitty event and a mediocre comic. It's a good thing we got it out of the way. In universe was an earth shattering event.

>>86107453
He does support and care for him, mainly by trying to make Bruce see that he's being an idiot.

>>86105997
WHY ISN'T HE SMILING?!!!!

>>86107507
>There was no foresight or planning into including him.

Except Since MoS we had all the elements there.

>>86107507
>Lex wasn't playing with Kryptonian tech until the latter part of the film

We see him since the candy scene playing with that.

>>86107632

He was "playing with it" cause he wanted to make weapons out of it, like Batman did, not birth a Kryptonian abomination, that was shoe-horned in late and came out of nowhere.

>we had all the elements there

There were literally zero tie-in elements from MOS other than Zod's dead corpse being used again as a convenient plot device cause the movie might as well have been written by monkeys with typewriters.

Stupid movie being defended by stupid people. You know your movie is stupid, when even Mel Gibson says something negative about.

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>>86106195
Not of Snyderfags.

It's their defining trait.

I rewatched Man of Steel lately (Because it was on tv) and he actually did smile more than I remembered in that film. While I agree with people who say he didn't smile enough in BvS I also agree with the people who say he shouldn't be smiling at the hearing. It's a serious situation and he would have looked like he was taking the piss if he was grinning. He's allowed to convey a wide ranch of emotions.

>>86107933
>He's allowed to convey a wide ranch of emotions.

Which he doesn't do cause he's always making the Jaden Smith face.

Do people just trolling or actually defending Snyder abomination? Normies like Antman more than Supes nowdays because of him. Literally EVERYTHING wrong with Snyder's version of Supes and Kents. The only good portriat in both movies were Zod and Faora. That's all. Two potential masterpieces ruined by MUH EDGE MUH GRIMDARK AND MUH BIBLE AND KING ARTHUR REFERENCES

>>86107698
>There were literally zero tie-in elements from MOS

>the ship
>the knowledge of 100,000 worlds
>the body of zod
>the chamber of breeding shit
>the ancient abomination in the extras

>>86108137

>Snyderturds unironically dont pretend to be this stupid

>>86105368
This might sound shill-y but I think these movies may actually have a vision.

>MoS establishes Supes' origins & introduces him to the world.
>BvS deals with the moral implications of Supes' existence, with people torn on the issue. His death sways the public to perceive him as a genuine inspiring hero.
>JL has Supes come back to life to be the hero he's always been & save the day. At this point, Clark is resolute & actually becomes the Superman we know & love.

Or they could just be okay movies with sub-par characterizations & my love of DC is skewing my perception of them.

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>>86108290
>they will join you in the Sun
And then you'll get too much solar radiation and then you'll die again.

>>86108290
>humans are so shit they need an alien to teach them how to be

at least Jesus was human

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Do you think lighthearted inspirational super heroes will ever gain mainstream popularity?

>>86108336
>Captain America
>Iron Man
>Spider-Man
>all the other Marvel heroes

they are all popular

>>86108335
I thought Jesus was fully divine.
>>86108336
They have for decades.

>>86108372
he is god in human flesh
that's why he suffered and died like a human

>>86108370
>Cap is better Superman than DCEU Superman
Fucking pathetic. DCEU is a waste of potential.

>>86108398
But did he actually suffer, or was he just faking it?

>>86108438
he was human in body so yes he did suffer

>>86108398

And HE will return soon

>>86108472
Yeah, like, any minute now.

>>86108370
>>86108427
I dunno I'd call Cap one of the darker Marvel heroes actually.
And the Marvel heroes are light hearted but not in a way you'd accept Superman to be.
People are mad that Superman killed a guy and felt bad about it, if Superman just murderlized a guy and made a bad quip people would've been fucking livid. I'd say the closest to an acceptable Superman is Thor and not because he's exactly Superman like he's just so bland that he doesn't really contradict Superman's character like the rest do.

>>86105190
https://youtu.be/F4zlC8jAISk

>>86108427
>>Cap is better Superman than DCEU Superman

But he isnt, he is a Fascist interventionist cunt that kills anyone who thinks different

>>86105684
Naysayers have literally no argument against these movies. So they pretend it has problems.

>>86108548
He didn't kill Tony.

>>86108548
Every mayor heroe is a facist, even DCEU Superman fly to Africa to save Lois

>its a 300 post not muh Superman thread

>>86105776
Nightwing is an inspiration, anon. He reminds all the guys out there that if they just get /fit/ they too can be Dicks and have women love them.

>>86108643
At least he was waiting outside the border until Lois was threatened. Cap would have flown in, killed national citizens, then peaced out. And when the government complained he would be all like "DONT TREAD ON ME MUH COST OF FREEDOMS"

>>86108677
You seem upset.

>>86108677

>At least he was waiting outside the border until Lois was threatened

Yeah I guess Jimmy wasn't worth shit to him, huh?

Because his girlfriend's life clearly matters more then anyone else.

>>86108643
Batman and Green Arrow aren't

>>86108722
nigga he didnt even know jimmy. did u watch the movie

>>86108722
they had to put her in every MoS scene just to have Superman have a reason to be there

>>86108739
>I only care about the people I know, who cares about those other random humans

what a great hero

Can someone explain why did WB let Snyder spread his retarded "vision" on Superman? He didn't do such shit to 300 or Watchmen. Why let him ruin iconic character and the whole extended universe after him? I mean, ok, you guys don't believe that capeshit can survive more than 5 years, but could you, at least, try to make good and connected universe based on hope? Not MUH DARKNESS type which isn't work with half of DC characters?

>>86108643

That's the thing he didnt entered the country until Lois needed him, Cap would just kill the black guy so a murrika friendly dictator could take his place.

And i Agree, superheroics in general are extremely fascist inclined, the JL works pretty well since the "gods in the sky" angle overtakes that. While the Avengers getting involved in stuff like international politics is always terrible.
I hated that issue when superman goes and takes a dictator out.

>>86108722
>Yeah I guess Jimmy wasn't worth shit to him
Why would he save a CIA Assassin?
As far as Superman knows he went to save Lois AFTER he heard a shot. You don't start international shit, you go after it starts

>>86108752
>what a great hero
What did you expect from him? Did you see how he was raised?

>>86108739
That's the whole point. Superjerk only cares about Lois pussy and MARTHA. He doesn't give a shit about other people. He acts almost like Ultraman.

>>86108795
He was a spy, not an assassin if I recall

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>>86105780
But this is awful.

Actions speak louder than words, and Superman comes from ACTION Comics.

Superman is at his best when he makes the right decisions despite impossible odds and acts as an ideal that we can aspire to.

He's arguably at his worst when he's an passive weirdo in tights who acts as a mouth piece for the writer to sputter out his grand unifying theory of Superman. That's exactly what made comics like Grounded so cringe-y.

he didn't even take out the spaceship from Metropolis, nothing would have happened if he took care of his race's stuff

>>86108752
Superman has no right or impetus to step into random African conflicts to save white people

They could be well within their rights to shoot those CIA guys, and Supes stops the drone strike and saves the africans. He respects national sovreignty unlike Captain Fascist

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>>86108826
>Ultraman
You know I would totally get behind this whole thing if they just caved and admitted the DCEU was Earth 2/3 and made them the Crime Syndicate

>>86108752
>Superman has to save every person on the planet

Next blame Tony Stark for not stopping Kingpin who lived a couple blocks down the street

>>86108868
what's the excuse for not saving the girls kept prisoners in Gotham which is right in front of Metropolis then

>>86108868
Wow you're going all out arent you? Heres a you sport

>>86105067
We didn't know Doomsday was gonna be in BvS either.

I wouldn't be that surprised if we started hearing about a major GL cameo as we get closer to release

>>86108872

you know nothing of how movies work.

>>86108891
he is always listening for Lois, could at least show some care for the people around her

it's nice to know that this Superman would let you die just because he has to go and save Lois

>>86108872
Power Ring's guncock gets me every time

>>86105083
I don't think OP is necessarily asking that he smiles at this particular scene.

It's more the fact that he never smiles as Superman in the whole fucking film

>>86108849
He was busy standing in bath with shoes on him. Do you really expecting ANYONE in Snyderverse not being absolutely dumb?

>>86108899
Yeah why isnt every Superman comic him rounding up all the drug and prostitution rings on the entire planet? Instead of lifting crashing airplanes out the sky

>>86108834

>Actions speak louder than words, and Superman comes from ACTION Comics.

And in BvS Superman's actions show him as a shut-in who only goes out and does heroism when Lois is in danger or another hero starts pissing near his turf.

Hell, he only dramatically sacrifices himself after Lois nearly drowns. I know it's there because of the Excalibur imagery, but looking at it on a plot level it seems to imply that Clark only gets serious in the fight because Lois was there and he wanted to save her. And we can't forget Flash telling the audience that "LOIS IS THE KEY TO ALL THIS."

I have no idea why Terrio and Snyder wrote the Clark/Lois relationship this way, Clark is defined entirely by his relationship to her and yet there's so little of it in the film it has no time to make it meaningful, it makes the whole thing come off as incredibly unhealthy.

>>86109083
there is literally a montage of him saving people that arent lois you mongoloid, kill yourself.

>>86109082
then he shouldn't complain about Batman saving those people just because he wasn't nice to a criminal while doing so

>>86108922
>Implying this would ever happen and not merely a fun thought
>Implying this faggot does

>>86109083
this, the premonition also clearly show that he was going to turn bad if Lois died, since it's the only thing he cares about

>>86109109
Not him but it would help if Clark didnt look like a depressive little shit the entire time while doing so acting like its such a burden

>>86109164
The idea of Clark being that close to being the Injustice dictator is fucking scary and dumb at the same time. If anything he'd be broken and fuck off to the fortress if Lois died tragically

>>86108830
>He was a spy

You have a very limited understanding of what the Cia does.

Jimmy would had confirmed the location of the general, they would had abandon the place, and then the drone would had bombed the village, then the rest of the horse guys would had killed the survivors. Daily CIA stuff. That and teaching third worlders how to torture. Remember when they trained that Brave guy? Bin Laden was his name.


>>86109083
>"LOIS IS THE KEY TO ALL THIS."
Sure... In JL.

When She will be key to brake the control the new gods will have over him:

Batman will save Lois so Lois can Save Batman

>>86108548
That's one of the main differences between BvS and Civil War. Superman knows that he's selfish, Cap just thinks he's right, and Cap's movie thinks he's right too. BvS however takes a very ambivalent stance to Superman's relationship to the world and Lois. Lois and his mother are what make him see the good in the world, when he sacrifices himself he says to Lois "You are my world", of course in the Knightmare scenario he says the same thing, his Darkseid exploited grief causing to become a weapon against mankind. So Superman is both ennobled and compromised by his love of Lois and Martha. The movie doesn't end up solving the problem of Superman, but it is honest about it.

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>>86108912
I hope we see him, because I love GLs. But I really hope we don't, because Snyder.

>>86109193
If he was smiling during those scenes you would just create some other imaginary goal post you dope

>>86109287
It's fine, you'll see Hal Jordan killing everyone soon enough.
At least that part is like the comics.

>>86108290

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>>86104770
>tfw Man From UNCLE proved he could pull off Christopher Reeve-styled charisma

Dammit Snyder.

>>86109294
>Snyderfag calling someone a goalpost mover
You cant make this shit up

>>86109284
>Cap just thinks he's right, and Cap's movie thinks he's right too
Does he? I didn't get the impression that he thinks he's right. He seems pretty accepting that he's selfish towards the end. He even gives up being Captain America because he believed Tony was right about not deserving the shield.

>>86108758

Because Superman returns failed and because the Nolan Batman flicks printed money. Taking Superman in a "Darker" way made sense ion paper. And to be fair MoS did make almost double what Superman Returns made

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>>86109311
I'll only accept it if he fucks up something gloriously.

>>86109341
You know I saw that movie and I wasn't impressed with Cavill at all. He's a pretty boy and he looks really, really good but he never showed any kind of depth. Maybe he should just stick to light hearted affairs that don't require actual acting.

>>86109109

>there is literally a montage of him saving people that arent lois you mongoloid

Those scenes are meaningless because they have no context in the story. They could have happened ten minutes before the movie started or ten minutes after he became Superman. They have no relation to anything.

And then there's the depressing music and the color filter and the news announcers debating his existence.

>>86109284

> So Superman is both ennobled and compromised by his love of Lois and Martha. The movie doesn't end up solving the problem of Superman, but it is honest about it.

Which might have some worth if the movie wasn't trying so hard to pretend that this Superman is loved by the public and they built multiple monuments to his name and deeds. The movie wants it both ways.

The newscaster stuff in BvS is fucking terrible because it doesn't mean anything. I assume Snyder wanted to homage the panels from Dark Knight Returns but he somehow missed that those parts were both very intentional parody and liberally sprinkled throughout the story, where here it's played as dead-serious and the movie forgets about it after the first act.

>>86109284
And that's what makes cap a Fascist enforcing his values on others while Superman is just a good person.

As for the second part of your post i think that they will avoid the "superman goes bad when lois died", The new gods could steal his body after sensing residual energy from the body, they could make him comeback. Snyder seems to like mirrors and circles. If Superman death saved Batman, and made batman a hero again, it makes sense to think Batman has to save superman in some way after his resurrection, especially after he tried to kill him in the last movie.

>>86109355
Well everything he says in the movie is right, he's completely absolved. Tony only hates him at the end for something Hydra made Bucky do. I don't see how he was contrite in giving up the shield, seeing as he breaks his friends out of prison just after that.

>>86109473
How is acknowledging that Superman would be controversial "having it both ways"? Take any powerful political figure on earth, plenty of people will love them and plenty will think they're evil incarnate.

>>86109473
>Which might have some worth if the movie wasn't trying so hard to pretend that this Superman is loved by the public and they built multiple monuments to his name and deeds. The movie wants it both ways.

In the real world, no issue has onle one face. What happens with Superman is realistic, at least when we are talking about the public.

>>86109473
You missed the WHOLE point of the scenes.

>>86105978

If couldnt get something THAT basic out of the movie you are wasting your time talking about it.

>>86104770
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/mel-gibson-batman-v-superman-1201853090/

>>86109575
>Mel Gibson hates superheroes who were created by jews

Go figure.

>>86105752
>BVS Alfred
>Bad
hoo boy, now you people have crossed over to real retardation zone.

>>86109494

But he is not, but you are irrational.
You don't see interventionism as a bad thing. You dont care about the right of others to choose their own path.

Steve wasnt right about anything in the movie, he went into a fight with the German police to protect someone that as far as he knows was guilty.
A brain washed assassin he let escape in his last movie.

Steve could had go to any German TV station and give a public announcement asking Bucky to surrender in the nearest police station and he would take care of him and heard him. But No. He Jumped the boarder like any illegal mexican. Cap was wrong, and it's not longer the hero he was in first Avenger. He is the Bully.

>>86109546

Because outside of the talking-heads stuff it seems like the general public loves him. Hell, the only people who don't are either Luthor plants or depressed shut-ins. The dichotomy that Snyder tries to imply is shown shown in one part, not both.

The movie never engages with the public because Snyder thinks the talking-heads are good enough, even though both those parts contradict each other..

And then he wraps it up with that moronic "IF YOU SEEK HIM MONUMENT, LOOK AROUND YOU" bit at the end, which was so unmotivated and saccherine it almost gave me diabetes.

>>86105877
>I've never read any comic with Alfred in it or ever watched BTAS

Clearly

>>86109575

He was talking about capeshit in general.

>>86109665
No Cap was right, Bucky is innocent. I do think Cap was morally wrong, you're missing my point. The movie has every one of Cap's justifications for his actions turn out to be true. The movie lets him off the hook at every turn. I agree that Cap was selfish, but the movie can't let him be wrong.

Fact is, MoS was a good movie and BvS was the greatest movie. Sorry haters, you've lost.

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>>86109941
>MoS was a good movie and BvS was the greatest movie

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>>86109941
>being this brain damaged

>>86109774
Anyone who likes Civil War gonna address this?

>>86110160
What's there to address? It's true.

>>86105157
>I'm gonna burn your mother alive, Superman.
>Okay, Lex, you little rascal!

I'm sure that's the movie you want

>>86106635
Snyder is such a Superman fan that he killed him off so Batman could be the lead character of Justice League.

Face it, Snyder fucking hates Superman.

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>>86110227
>snyderfag fails to comprehend the idea of balance

Everytime

>>86110352
is this bait? are Superfags so oblivious?

The movie was awful and anyone who defends it is either a paid shill, trolling, or an actual idiot.

>>86110352
But that's not true at all. And the JL movie will be centered around Superman too.

>>86110434
>>86110492
Superman fans can only think based on power levels and fighting scene so they think that Snyder hates Superman because he died

>>86110515
Yeah because every character who has ever died was hated by the author right?

>>86104770

He's only allowed to smile if he's Clark Kent.

From the public's stand-point why should the public see snyder's superman as an inspiration? From how he was portrayed it looked like he had Hillary's public approval rating.

He was a cold, soulless individual who brought death and destruction to earth via Zod.

>>86110580
reading comprehension.

>>86109774
Still waiting for an explanation why Civil War isn't dumb.

>>86108677
Thats is the Murican way isnt??

>>86109669
Oh fuck, you're right, it's not like there were CROWDS OF FUCKING PROTESTERS SHOWING UP AT THE CAPITOL BUILDING BECAUSE OF HIM.

>>86110814
It was a mix crowd. Someone even had a 'marry me' sign.
And i saw a pic of a website that said 'top 5 dogs that look like superman'

>>86105289
I enjoy multiple depictions of the character across the several decades that he's existed, including Curt Swan and Zach Snyder versions, now what, faggot?

>>86104770
bump

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>>86104770
dude

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>>86104770
com on

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>>86104770
listen man

I wish Snyder Supes emoted more like Cavill's character in Man From U.N.C.L.E.

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>>86105618
Oh, my heart. This...this is Superman, isn't it?

>>86105494
Him smiling would have fitted better if there were a little kid in the crowd outside looking throughly depressed and him smiling friendly.
Also most people are imaginen him smiling cocky or careless somehow.

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>>86104770

>>86107933
You can smile without grinning.

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>>86104770
kek

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>>86105083

>and your next line is 'I'm a fucking faggot with zero good taste'

>>86105550
i want a happy to help smile a no burden is to big smile not a things are going my way smile

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bing bong boong

>>86111884
>'I'm a fucking faggot with zero good taste'

b-but how?