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What was the honest point of setting these in the MCU? Asking

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What was the honest point of setting these in the MCU? Asking as a fan of the Netflix shows.

Kevin Feige has straight up said TV and film MCU will never crossover. The shows themselves never make use of the connection, other than some throwaway lines to "the event downtown". And from a marketing standpoint, it doesn't matter, casuals will see the "Marvel" and watch it anyways.

Related, I know many people still hate it, but Agents of SHIELD was terrible, objectively, when it constantly tried to connect to the wider MCU in Season 1. It got better once Winter Solider freed the writers from having to conform to the movies for the most part.
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>>86040128
So that they can make references to things that happen in the MCU.

Also isn't Daredevil showing up in Infinity War or is that not something that's happening any more?
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That Daredevil mask is so gross.

I liked his season 1 look.
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>>86040128
Not everything needs to connect, it just makes the universe more populated. You live in the same universe as LeBron James, yet you're probably not going to run into him.

And just because you're a star college player doesn't mean you'll be hanging with LeBron anytime soon, just like street-level Daredevil doesn't hang with Iron Man.

But yeah, the connection is pretty arbitrary otherwise. Come on, guys. You couldn't have AfterEffected the Avengers Tower over the MetLife building?
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>>86040146
According to Kevin, it'd be "very hard to pull off".

He didn't say no, but...

Even Clark Gregg is getting pissed off.
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>>86040153
That is his season 1 look.
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>>86040146
What Daredevil could do against Thanos?
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>>86040252
What could Captain America do against Thanos?
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>>86040284

Throw his shield and punch him really hard!
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>>86040146
>Also isn't Daredevil showing up in Infinity War or is that not something that's happening any more?

As far as I knew it was never happening at all. I have never once heard of the MCU and the TV/Netflix shows having any plans on crossing over.
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Fucking Perlmutter

To be fair, Kevin is acting like a baby too
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>>86040128
Why not?
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I really don't see the point of the tv shows being in the MCU
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>>86040348
Even Agents of REFERENCES is hampered by being in the MCU now.

I think we got a grand total of two direct references to the movies last season? A brief one to the "Pym Laboratories incident" and a more natural one to the Accords.
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>>86040146
>So that they can make references to things that happen in the MCU.

>>86040204
>Not everything needs to connect, it just makes the universe more populated. You live in the same universe as LeBron James, yet you're probably not going to run into him.

These. If crossovers are your entire reason for being interested int he MCU, perhaps stick to the comics? I'm not trying to be a dick, I agree crossovers would be nice, I've just not expected anything more than mentions and winks in a while. I'm happy enough knowing that they all occur in the same setting and they COULD cross over, if they so wished.

It's also not as if we have gotten nothing. Where the Helecarrier came from in AoU is answered in AoS. We had Lady Sif turn up there too.

I never expected them to 'allow' TV actors to turn up in the movies. It's impressive enough that we got even a secondary movie character from Thor of AoS.
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Agents of SHIELD is so noncanon now that season 3 isn't even getting a physical release.
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>>86040435
Wasn't a big criticism of season one that they kept referencing the other Avengers every five minutes? Now that they've stopped doing it people are pissed?
>>86040504
Hey cool meme!
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>>86040522
Season 3 and Agent Carter season 2 aren't getting bluray releases. They don't give a shit about it.
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>>86040541
Fuck you, Marvel. And I like those shows.

The AoS Season 2 finale was better than AoU. Not a hard race, granted.
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Is Daredevil ever getting a physical release?
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>>86040522
Well, yeah, I'm glad they stopped going DOCTOR BANNER, TONY STARK, BLACK WIDOW, BATTLE OF NEW YORK, BATTLE OF NEW YORK.

But it just made me realize how pointless it is to try to be in the MCU.
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>>86040673

>>86040504
>>86040541

I think they will eventually. I'll buy them when they eventually do, if only because I want to own the entire MCU once it's bigger.

>>86040673

Season 1 already has one, doesn't it? Could have sworn I saw it in HMV.
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>>86040766
>I think they will eventually. I'll buy them when they eventually do, if only because I want to own the entire MCU once it's bigger.

Well I currently do. Feels pretty bad wondering if it'll be uncompletable.
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>>86040868

So you put yours in order of release, eh?
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>>86040128
>What was the honest point of setting these in the MCU?
So you don't have to create a world all over again every time you start a show.
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>>86040928
Yeah. I feel like it's the most logical order if one were to just watch the entirety of it. There should be a hole somewhere between Avengers films for Daredevil s1 when that comes out next month.

So original theatrical/air-date release, not bluray release.
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Marketing.
What do you care for canon anyway? You either like things or not.
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>>86040868
>Not only watching but owning AoS.
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>>86041011
>>86041017

My enjoyment of AoS is entirely based on it being canon.
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>>86041029
>AoS being canon on the MCU.
>Ever.
This makes me cringe as hard as the complete retards saying that BvS is "le kino perfect film xD"
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>>86040673
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Marvels-Daredevil-Blu-ray-Region-Free/dp/B01HQ0C23O/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1473093490&sr=1-1&keywords=Daredevil

Seems like it. There just seems to he a hell of a lag period, as I imagine the MCU shows are a big draw to Netflix and they don't want to lose that with 'well, I'll just wait for the disc release.'
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>>86041071
Well I think you might have a brain problem because one is a a fact about continuity and the other is a subjective opinion.
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>>86040128

Eh Netflix Marvel is so much better than the MCU it's not even funny. I'd rather they keep them separate. The shared universe thing is a dumb gimmick it's not like any of the movies had actual plots so far.
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>>86041029

>Aos
Gross
>Canon
ew

Jesus whatafag.
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>>86040128
>Agents of Shield got better

When will this meme end?
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>>86040348
What's the point of any comic being in the same universe? It just makes it feel cooler.

It's interesting that the movies are creating a whole new batch of continuityfags that want everything to cross over and if it doesn't, then it doesn't "matter".
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>>86041029

That doesn't make any sense, what does that have to do w th its quality as a TV show?

Did you also burn every piece of Star Wars EU material you had after the Disney purge?
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>>86041324
I certainly would have if I had any. Since it didn't happen in the universe. No reason to have it.
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>>86041409
meme
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I can't believe someone unironically measure quality of fiction based on its canonicity.

Canon is a soulless corporate invention to make you buy stuff just because they own it.
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>>86041003

I organize mine in order of event in-universe. So the first Cap movie is at the top/first. Pretty much anything after The Avengers is in order of release though since event and release dates are someone hand in hand.
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>>86041466
Canon is a media enhancer. Let's be real. We're not talking about art and film here. We're talking about capefilm.
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>>86042094
Yes, but TV series have enough material to sustain themselves.

And still. I don't give a fuck if Iron Man flies around while Matt Murdock kicks ass or Jessica Jones whines about her rape, or Hive plots his evil plot with his army of mind controlled inhumans.
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>>86041487
What are you going to do about Doctor Strange then? That movie takes place over basically the entire 8 years since Iron Man.
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>>86042407
He should put it ontop of it, longways.
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>>86042460
kek
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>It got better once Winter Solider freed the writers from having to conform to the movies for the most part.
It got better when Winter Soldier revealed that Shield = Hydra and AoS changed accordingly.

And future seasons still dealt with shit left behind by movies (Strucker, Loki's scepter, remnants of Kree and Kree themselves) or been busy prepping for upcoming movies (project Theta)
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>>86042460

>not sawing the disc into individual slices that you place in-between the other cases
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>>86041029
>>86041154
>>86041409
top tier baiting friend
10/10
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>>86042657
I don't think it's a bad show at all. I'm just saying I wouldn't be watching it if it wasn't canon.
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>>86042407

Probably put it at the end. The final battle and all that will probably take place in current time. If I was putting the movie precisely where it started, I'd have to put both Thor movies in the front/top since the opening scenes for both take place thousands of years ago. The time between IM1 to Dr. Strange current will be passed in a training montage from what I've heard anyway.
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It's a real shame that the target audience is so different for Spider-Man and Daredevil meaning they'll never cross over. I'd love to see Matt chewing Peter out like in USM, especially after Tony's inflated his ego.
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>>86040128
Just season one? They did it every time a movie came out.
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>>86044500
> I'd love to see Matt chewing Peter out like in USM, especially after Tony's inflated his ego.
Fucking, why?

They are bros and Charlie's Daredevil is pretty chill.
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Kevin Feige doesn't give a fucking rat's ass about comics or the Marvel universe and whether it's shared or not

He just wants to make millions and billions in the movie industry. That balding beta cuckold turns his nose up at television because his jewwy ass knows there's not millions to be made there

Fuck Feige, I hope he falls down a massive flight of stairs and bleeds to death straight out of his dick hole
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>>86040128
If Avengers would've happened after these shows, it'd be a crime not to give just a few shots of the Defenders keeping street level safe, escorting civilians outta danger etc.
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>>86044887
Fuck off Kike Perlmutter.
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>>86044887
>That balding beta cuckold

>beta

Going up against and fighting the bigwigs, championing to create what is now probably one of the most successful film franchises right now is not the work of a beta. Fiege is very much alpha and is now one of head honchos at Marvel because of it.
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To be honest, they dont have to crossover. The world is a big ass place. Yeah it would be cool if Daredevil is on the screen with Tony Stark broing it up with each other, but relistically, its never gonna happen because the movies are written years in advance while the TV shows only take a few months to write. Itll put writers into a corner to fit in with the movies and it keeps them from telling really interesting stories.

The best way to do it to be honest is just namedrop characters. If Daredevil doesnt even get a namedrop or small cameo in Spider Man Homecoming you can forget about the TV shows and movies ever crossing over. Its the perfect oppurtunity to do so because DD and Spidey are like, literally two fucking blocks away from each other. Not to mention DD has been operating a year longer than Spidey almost, it wouldnt make sense.
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