What did you guys think of this? I give it a 7/10. It was like

It seemed like a better movie disfigured into being a piece of shit.
Maybe the character motivations were more convincing in the original movie but as is it felt really forced and trying to be an edgier Guardians of the Galaxy.

Awful.

But re-watchable.

Like, it wasn't good, but it was great.

>>86038930

100% forgettable. It has no strong affect on anything, and is one of the more pointless "universe" movies to exist. Watchable but you'll wonder why you wasted the 2 hours afterwards.

6.5/10. Almost good. Worst entry of DCEU so far.

>>86038930
Wasted Potential/10

The casting actually was pretty solid and it did its direction very well, but it was shoehorned into the same generic "run to the center of the city and defeat the glowing magical badguy" plot that capeshit falls into so often. Every character was misused, motivations were nonexistent and it felt like nothing happened the entire time.

I'd put it one rung above Fant4stic.

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>>86039005
>Worst entry of DCEU so far.
this
stay woke but unironically

There were so many unmemorable characters in that film. Also the first act was a mess, you could see that they had reshoot stuff for it and showed scenes in trailers and realized there's no place for the scenes but can't leave them out.

I thought there was lots to look at but ended up being a screen time fight between smith and robbie and no one else. My girlfriend ate it all up and it actually got her into the comics, starting with rebirth. I feel the movie served its purpose.

>>86038930
I don't know. It was weird. It was...almost good, kinda. Like the things I went into worrying about were all fine but then they managed to screw up a bunch of other shit either I took for granted would be OK or just didn't think you could fuck up. So that was confusing.

>>86039058
At least this movie got a few peoples into buying rebirth.
Holy shit is there a lot of Harley Quinn and Suicide Squad being printed.

I really liked it, didn't love it. Just like BvS theatrical, I thought it was a little choppy and needs some extra room to breathe. Since I loved the BvS UE I'm hoping for an extended cut. Otherwise I found it entertaining overall.

>>86039005
>Worst entry of DCEU so far.
I would say this as well. I still liked SS overall, but I really like the grandiose nature and ambitiousness of MoS and BvS. Which makes sense considering those feature Superman and the Trinity and this features the Squad. Still, it's a good step down when it comes to visuals, sound, etc.

>>86038930
flawed but good, obviously a bit fucked due to studio interference but still had great aesthetics, choreography and all the characters were memorable and fun to watch. really needs a directors cut.

I went in with low expectations and liked it. The music in it was rad. When Black Skinhead started playing at the start, I had a stupid grin on my face.

Also Boomerang did absolutely shit all in the final fight, if him sprinting out of the bar was the last thing we saw, that'd make the ending 2x better

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It's funny, I realized this was what I wanted from a capeshit movie. Something unafraid to embrace the wide wacky world of comics. It didn't feel the need to pigeonhole itself so it didn't feel too "out there". It always seemed that in cape flicks the hero would be fighting an enemy that was spawned from very much the same source they were. Thor fought other Norse shit. Iron Man fought other Tech shit. Cap fought other Supersoldiers and an Evil SHIELD. Superman fought Kryptonians even BvS ended with fighting Downsday. Not that it's bad in itself but I always thought it'd be a cool idea to have something that could have these wildly different elements and just accept that they exist in the same world without having to introduce every character in their own feature.
But then it ended up sucking but I guess I should have expected that.

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>>86038930
>I wish they had kept the original tone from the first trailer from last summer, rather than reshooting almost the entire film to appeal to hot topic tumblr people who have never read a comic in their life.
The idea that the film was originally intended to be much darker and heavier really needs to pass. Like the Justice League teaser this year, the Comic Con trailer from last year basically slapped together some footage they had with some music since they were in the middle of filming. They basically took Ayer and the cast from the middle of filming, flew them to San Diego for a bit of PR fun with a makeshift teaser before flying them immediately back the moment the panel ended to continue filming. Movies are a time consuming process and you can't reshoot and readjust things on the fly because everyone liked a certain trailer, which came at January of this year. Everything about the movie, from the more colorful and stylized costumes, to the tattoos, to the dialogue always pointed to Ayer going for a more neon-grime aesthetic.

>>86038976
I actually understand this. And I agree

>>86039005
>worst

Best*

>>86038930
I only got to see it last week, and I liked it quite a lot actually. Yes, as far as plot goes, it wasn't anything special, but the whole cast had such great chemistry I didn't mind.

The reviews are way to negative. Like I said, it's not that great of a flick, but reading those, I was expecting some incoherent clusterfuck without any resemble of sense and logic.

>>86039373
Oh that's disappointing because I didn't like this movie and thought it was because it was cut together differently than intended.

It sells itself as being fun and colorful but it's actually boring, dull and way too serious for most of the movie.

>>86039309
>Black Skinhead
So who do I blame about getting the Thundercat remix taken down because such a simple addition made it a significantly better song.

>>86038930
>Nirvana song.
>Pretty good, enjoyable
Pick one.

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Is Jared Leto's Joker as horrible as it sounds?

>>86039536
Personally I just found him pointless not as bad as everyone is making out.
Though they really wanted to make that laugh a THING.

>>86039415
Cuts and editing are different. Ayer himself said that there was a more linear cut but test audiences were confused on who to follow through the movie because it was an ensemble cast. If you want to get a peek at what that was like, I think the novelization was based on the earlier linear script and went something like:

>Enchantress then Deadshot then Harley intro scenes.
>Move to the current movie script but the meeting with Waller didn't have those flashbacks/intros for the characters. Those were seen earlier in the movie.

The lighter tone and neon-grime aesthetic looks like it's entirely what was intended. For those hoping an extended cut will really boost SS up like the BvS UE did, I don't think that'll happen. If the novelization is any indication of what's missing, there really isn't anything huge unlike the BvS UE where they cut out the extended north Africa scene, the involvement of the actress, etc. The missing scenes from SS are largely just additional character development scenes and dialogue. Probably the biggest missing thing a bit more classic Joker/Harley abuse scenes and those don't really affect the overall story much.

>>86039579
Who gets more development exactly?
Because Croc and Katana pretty much a non-characters besides saying some really cringey things.

>>86039415
>I didn't like this movie and thought it was because it was cut together differently than intended.
It was. They literally hired Trailer Park (the company that cut the popular trailer with the Queen song) to make a theatrical edit when the trailer was so well received:

"A key concern for Warners executives was that Suicide Squad didn't deliver on the fun, edgy tone promised in the strong teaser trailer for the film. So while Ayer pursued his original vision, Warners set about working on a different cut, with an assist from Trailer Park, the company that had made the teaser."

Sauce:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693

Although, having said that, the script was written in something like 6 weeks so this was never going to be Citizen Kane.

>>86039536
I didn't hate him like everyone else, I think the main issue is that everyone compares him to Heath Ledger who was exceptional, but also had an entire movie to develop the character and not just 5 minutes

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>>86039536
I liked Leto's Joker enough, and one thing I liked the most was that they made him a crime lord.

I personally can't stand the "Joke is the living of avatar of chaos and anarchy" you get in Nolan's movie or comics like Snyder's run.

>>86039617
>Who gets more development exactly?
Mostly the main focus of the movie.

Harley and Joker get a bit more dialogue and screentime together. Deadshot gets a few more lines with his daughter and wife. Enchatress and Flag get a little bit more to show their relationship. Slipknot gets an additional line. Things like that.

Some things were changed around, but nothing that really would affect the movie as a whole. I think Deadshot dropped off his daughter with her mom before walking down an alley and confronting Batman alone because he didn't want to do anything in front of his daughter. The end fight had a bit more action with Incubus throwing boomerangs at Incubus. Katana stabbed Incubus' decapitated head at the end of the fight and trained his soul into her sword. It's basically stuff that if we were to get an extended edition then it's not going to massively change the movie but really just give it more room to breathe.

>>86038930
Best DCEU movie to date
Fixed all the problems that MOS and BvS had in terms of tone but also had some pacing issues.

>>86039566
>I just found him pointless not as bad as everyone is making out.
I agree. The stills made him look full on Hot Topic wannabe Gansta Rappa; but he really came across more like a Russian Mob Boss (Sociopathic? Sure. Clown Prince of Crime? Not hardly.)

One of the better cape films to come out this year

Despite the material and potential they managed to make it safe, by the numbers, and all around bland. It felt like it was all shot in one take and then "salvaged" in the editing room. How about villains doing bad things? How about a mission that isn't the same plot we've seen a hundred times before? God damn WB, I don't think you understand SS either

Question:
Did they really talked about how they are the bad guys all the goddamn time?

>>86039536
I thought he was fine but needed more screentime to develop him more. I actually kind of like the idea that this Joker actually cares about Harley more than other iterations. We've had the classic abusive Joker/Harley relationship in BtAS. We have a Harley that's left Joker and become her own thing in the comics. If we get a Bonnie and Clyde style dedicated criminal duo for the movies, I'd be happy since it's something we haven't really seen yet.

>>86038930
What part was "exhausting?" I probably won't watch the whole thing again, just certain scenes. It's kind of like a Marvel film in that way (no disrespect intended).

>>86039012
Note anon said "one of". Cool your jets.

>>86039883
>Did they really talked about how they are the bad guys all the goddamn time?
Not *constantly* but it comes up several times: Harley just randomly smashes a window and steals something and responds to being questioned with, "We're BAD GUYS it's WHAT WE DO!" and there's the bar scene when Deadshot reminds them all that they're gonna get blamed when shit hits the fan because "we're the bad guys" ... I can't think of a mention in the movie that wasn't lifted for one of the trailers actually.

>>86040035
>We're BAD GUYS it's WHAT WE DO!
Fuck that scene, I cringe every time.

>>86040035
that scene with the window was obviously just shot for the trailer

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Alright /co/, since we're having a good Suicide Squad conversation thread like adults and the movie is crossing $300mil domestic today, let's have some fun.

I have the art book and will take pics of any requested aspects of the movie for one hour. What do you want to see? Turnarounds of Deadshot's fully functioning wrist magnums? Harley, Joker, etc. full tattoos? Early Joker concepts, etc.?

Keep everything civil and give me requests.

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>>86040141
The back also has an unused variant of the classic "skull with bullet teeth" Squad logo.

>>86040141
Batman.

>>86040068
literally just shot for the trailers

>>86040141
Do they have any deadshot concept art in there for how they thought to make him look in the film?

>>86038930
Wasted potential, apart from introducing the characters, the entire movie was just pointless.

Also, it's clear the reshoots were all about the first half of the movie, which is the one with atrocious pacing and almost a different tone from the second half.

Also, even though they made a marketing gimmick the whole ''we are the bad guys'', it just ended up being yet another superhero movie.

>>86039536
No, actually.
Due to the memes, I went in expecting something out of a song of Linkin Park, and what we got was, something duller, and ultimately pointless to the plot.

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>>86040234
Nothing in the book for him or Flash. But since he was involved in a chase scene, have a bit from the BVS art book on the newest iteration of his big badass black musclecar.

>>86038956
Exactly this it's had so many issues that could've been solved it they didn't have such a shitty editing team cutting all the important shit out

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>>86040274
Yes.

>>86038930
Sorta like a music video. A bunch of scenes strung together without any narrative flow or character development. Everyone's either "the badass one" or "the whacky badass one". Entertaining, but dumb as hell and nothing for a rewatch.

>>86040141
I'm interested in Joker's concepts. Also, Katana if there're any.

>>86040141
Can I get Joker & Quinn concept art?
Also how much was the book, was it worth it?

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>>86040372
Bonus for Deadshot.

>>86038930
The movie could have been so much better they actually built shit up have a fucking montage of them actually going on missions and shit actually becoming a team so it wouldn't feel retarded while building up charecters and enchantress motivation and not introducing a fucking charecter to kill him off 15 minutes later

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>>86040429

>>86040331
The car having a stunt double is pretty cool. Anything about the Joker's car?

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>>86040483

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>>86040440
$45 retail but I got it for $20 on Amazon luckily. It's great and has a ton of extra posters, cards, etc. Well worth it. For you, let'stand look at Joker and Harley's tattoos.

>>86039005
Definitely the worst executed movie of the DCEU, personally I find MoS more harder to watch than SS

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>>86040581
Transfers of Mr. J's tattoos.

>>86038930
Please don't compare this garbage to Nirvana anon you're better than that

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>>86040515
Nothing on Joker's wild ride unfortunately.

>>86038930
What happens when you blend a cringe fest, interesting darker scenes that never made the cut, awful editing to hide said scenes, and the constant focus on Joker and Harley to pander to audiences?

You get this movie. It could have been decent had it not been for those reshoots. 5.5/10

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I'm seriously having a hard time thinking of a movie character that I hate more. Not in the way that he's adversarial to the team some times and you're supposed to hate him, I hated him in the way that I wanted to leave every time he was on screen. Literally everything from the concept to the casting to the execution. I wanted to yell at the screen during the bar scene and his """""redemption""""""

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Hour is almost up and the thread is descending into hyperbole as expected. Any other requests?

>>86040751
Seems to be you're just heavily autistic. Flagg was great and probably the most likeable character bar diablo

>>86039058
Same here, I bought my gf the first volume of nu52 sqwad and she devoured it

>>86040797
yo got anything on slipknot, king shark or incubus

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>>86040835
Slipknot had a really strange initial concept for his harness. King Shark, no.

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>>86039177
>ambitiousness of MoS and BvS

I don't think you've ever seen an actually ambitious film. Failing to develop your characters and shooting everything as a procession of tiring moments full of over-saturation and bloom is not 'ambitious.'

Zerkalo is ambitious. District 9 is ambitious. Barry Lyndon is ambitious. MoS and BvS are not.

>>86040814
I disagree. Hated his accent and his relationship with Moon over June was weak as fuck.

>>86040931
It's ambitious when it comes to capeshit.

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Alright, time for me to head out and catch Finding Dory and maybe Suicide Squad one more time. Enjoy all!

>>86040982
It really isn't. Pretending to have depth while essentially lacking all the basic attributes of a coherent story is just plain laziness. MoS and BvS are probably some of the least ambitious cape films I've ever seen - no amount of slo-mo and paper-thin symbolism can change the fact that they're both ultimately vacuous of all meaning and poorly constructed as films.

And frankly, the very idea of a shared film universe was ambitious when Marvel did it.

>>86039012
>http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/

also fuck you antman introduced hank pym into the Marvel U.

>>86038930

It was alright, had some editing problems but easy 6/10 for me.

People will compare this to GOTG but I don't think that works. MCU started off with Iron Man, Incredible Hulk then Iron Man 2. DCU started off with MOS, BvS and SS. Not really a strong start for either company. I think when DC catches up and makes more movies people will look back fondly upon there start.

I wish they kept the extra Joker scenes and moved around a few scenes, editing problems weren't so bad that it ruined the movie or anything. Love Waller, Harley, Deadshot and Boomerang. Snippits of Bats and Flash were very cool.

>>86041173
>It really isn't.
It really is. :^)

>>86040638
sad freaked face

damaged :^(

>>86041173
and then said universe became the epitome of "same-old, same-old"

>>86041173
>And frankly, the very idea of a shared film universe was ambitious when Marvel did it.
I agree. It was really ambitious how they marketed it when shit like Star Trek did it first.

>>86041173
BvS had depth.

>>86041911
>Star Trek did it first
What?

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>>86041934

>>86041954
Next Generation movies and TV shows were interconnected and acknowledged each other. DS9 had Trek characters in it. When Worf showed up to the TNG movies they acknowledged his DS9 time.

>>86041934
BvS was a bunch of scenes that the writer thought was cool and to hell with the audience or narrative.

You could still get what was going on, but I don't know how you could get invested in any of it.

>>86041173
>paper-thin symbolism
PLEB

>>86042168
is this a trollpasta or are you really this dumb?

>>86042254
Did you fall for the /tv/ memes?

>>86042410
so yes, you are just that dumb

>>86038930
I did like most of the characters, although the writing was pretty weak. Like the first half hour is literally just character introductions. I actually didn't mind nu Harley, but Leto's Joker was easily the worst part. He wasn't malevolent, cunning, or intimidating; he was some 13 year old that still shops at Hot Topic.

It felt repetitive

>>86041243
>also fuck you Suicide Squad introduced Joker into the DC U

retard

>>86039058
>>86040826
Geez. Tell your gfs that they're supposed to read the comics, not eat them. Women, am I right guys?

>>86042118
It's more than that really. Every Star Trek show and movie is connected in some way. Both the Khan and Picard-Borg storylines started in the shows and ended in the movies. TNG crew met Scottie in the shows and Kirk in the movies. The Defiant from DS9 made it to a TNG movie. Even nuTrek met og series Spock via alternate timeline stuff. Things from the shows make it to the movies and things from the movies are referenced in the shows. Star Trek has an actual interconnected universe that reaches between eras and mediums whereas the MCU is largely one-sided and paid lip service.

>>86042168
Writing down memes won't make them true.

>>86038930

A disjointed mess. I liked Deadshot and Harley in it, though.

Got a laugh out of it later when I realized this is the third time a major American city has suffered an apocalyptic level of destruction within a short frame of time. The little people of the DC movie universe have got to be fucking terrified by this point.

>>86041934
>>86042173
>>86042254
>he actually fell for /tv/'s drivel

Seriously, these films are terrible.

They have no depth. They are just things or events that the director thought were cool, mashed together without proper context. They are processions of 'epic moments' with no real characters or a coherent story connecting them. Every line of dialogue and every character is merely a vehicle for getting to the next super cool moment that Snyder wants to dazzle the audience with.

The funny thing is, these moments aren't even interesting. They're visually stunning in the way that every film is visually stunning these days. There are no great feats of cinematography here, this shit is not The Third Man or Stalker.

There is no ambition here. It's just endless fake gravitas and pretend depth. These films are exactly the opposite of how you make movies. They stand as portraits of what studio interference and shallow directing does to a fundamentally fine concept.

>>86038930
>It was like a Nirvana song. Pretty good, enjoyable, but it was exhausting to get through,
With taste like this, I don't see why I should care about your opinion.