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Prince "The only foreign are the Quarren" Lee-Char Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Out This Week:
Year By Year: A Visual History - Updated & Expanded Edition
Poe Dameron #6

>Star Wars Rebels Season 3 Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmXp802sFgQ

>Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frdj1zb9sMY

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya (embed)

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
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Cuckoo for Dooku, Charlie Tuna GTFO
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Second for Princess Leia and Han Solo are married and expecting Jedi twins Princess Leia and Han Solo are married and expecting Jedi twins
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Palpatine did absolutely nothing wrong
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Shaak Ti is a cute. CUTE!
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Fifth for best fuckbuddies
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>>86030599
>implying
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>>86030576
What's wrong with Jedi twins? You autistic or something?
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>>86030806
he's making fun of an error that repeats the sentence
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>>86030806
>that image
Go away /tv/
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>>86030765
Hey, he didn't betray and condemn her to the firing squad, not to mention outright trying to kill her.
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>>86030867
Personally, I've just never been a fan of Rexohka, and if she had a clone fuckbuddy, it probably wouldn't have been him for fear she'd get snitched on, she'd probably just pull from the 501st infantry.

Tup seems like he'd be a good pick.
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>>86030806
Wait, Finn is a time traveler?

Damn it! The Snoke bullshit is true!
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Stop making this thread
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>>86031149
GTFO Quarren scum, this is a Mon Cala thread.
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>>86031149
Why yes Anon, I'd love to post sabers!
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>>86031276
Not that anon, but seriously Nuns, don't start this lightsaber shitposting. It's annoying.
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>>86031030
>Tup
Out of all the 501st and you choose Tup?
Also
>Snitching on your superiors
No Clone Trooper would go through with it if they didn't wanted Ahsoka reassigned and Rex sent to Kamino for reconditioning
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>>86030834
Oh, I see it. Is that from the graphic novel?
>>86030853
Never. I browse both.
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>>86031334
It's not really shitposting anon. Just a passtime that some of us like to do from time to time. You can happily ignore it if it's not your thing. It wont stop you having discussion in the thread
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>>86031583
Maybe if didn't push the image limit or waste posts, but whatever.
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>>86031618
>Push the image limit on an imageboard.
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>>86031122
Better! New Era Clone Trooper!
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Legitimately surprised, yet pleased, this guy survived. Kept expecting Vader to Lightsaber him or cause him to get blasted or let him fall into a trap. I like him. He was a cool sort.
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>>86031583
Coule be worse. Last thread we were sorta discussion Rey as a Mary Sue again. We're hard up for conversations, but all that should change in the coming weeks as hopefully we get some more tidbits for the new season of Rebels starting soon!

As for the Rey thing, eh. It was kind of funny but I was thinking about Anakin Skywalker. Sometimes people give him a pass because he's the Chosen One, but of course he wasn't always. The Prequels invented that angle on Darth. It's been so long I can't really remember much specifics about how controversial it was.

Does anyone remember, was it easier to accept it because it keeps Vader elevated to his already super cool status or does it cheapen his powers when he's Destiny's Lovechild?

I find it easier to remember the old debate over whether Anakin is truly a creation of the Will of the Force or whether Sheev and Plagueis whoopsied him in a lab halfway across the galaxy.
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>>86031979
Uh... how far into the run are you, Anon?
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>>86032223
Just finished Darth Vader #24, the last issue the site I'm reading on has.

Why? What are you trying to imply?
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CYLO IS SNOKE
BUT BY THE TIME HE BECOMES SNOKE HE'S LIKE CYLO 15
I SUCKED PABLO'S DICK FOR THE ANSWER

SCREENCAP THIS POST
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>>86032568
Because Thanoth didn't survive
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>>86032692
O-oh...

I must have missed the panel...

Do you recall what issue specifically, or was it in another serial not Darth Vaders?
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>>86032733
Issue 20. No idea how you missed it.
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>>86032789
Well fug. I skipped that one somehow.
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>>86032568
>Darth Vader #24
Damn was that a good issue we got to realize what Vaders subconscious is like he hated himself so fucking much he can't let himself die
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>>86032911
Kinda hard to miss
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>>86032660
Patently untrue, I let Pablo fuck me in the ass and in exchange he revealed the true identity of Snoke, and it's actually Meebur Gascon controlling a fake hologram
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>>86033024
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>>86033024
>>86033051
Yeah, I skipped #21 and went straight to #22 and didn't notice. I'm reading it now.
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>>86033051

RIP commander sherlocke, we barely knew ye
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>>86032961

>I grow more powerful with every step I take away from you.

Yeah, that was solid writing.
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>>86033024
I hate to be the bearer of this bad news but it's easy to miss issues of these comics. Hell, the cold open in the last issue of the main Star Wars title with an in media res star battle and Han and Leia talking about not missing this second attack run had me scrambling to see if I missed an issue. Nope, the previous one was just the wacky Stormtrooper story.

Darth's title can be pretty damn boring. The story just creeps along, so it's entirely possible to miss an issue. Ironic, really, that Darth's comics plod along at a steady but sometimes agonizingly casual pace just like him.

I don't know if that's what this anon did, though. Sucks to think it's as easy to forget what happened in an issue as it is to miss it entirely.
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Did we ever hear anything about the release of the Rebels soundtrack?
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Replace one word in a Star Wars quote with "asshole".

>Uncle Owen, this asshole has a bad motivator, look!
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>>86034598
>UNLIMITED ASSHOLE
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>>86034598
>As you know, our assholes are perfectly legal, and we would be happy to receive the ambassadors...
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>>86033051
just look at the color detail on that chest piece, amazing
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>>86034598
>Lock assholes in attack position.
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>>86034677
I remember first time I saw this in the theater thinking, "Holy shit! This is really fucking racist!" Or words to that effect.

I've always wondered, though, if it was because I'd already heard reports in the news claiming the movie was racist or if I'd still feel that way if I had seen it before hearing those reports.
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>>86035412
Eh, I'd say it's only mildly racist. A lot of this stuff just comes from George having grown up watching adventure serials where stereotypes were more common, and he's not really aware that some of this stuff doesn't really fly anymore in 1999.
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>>86035489
Maybe. I'd like to think it wasn't intentional, but then I have to admit I personally like to listen to a lot of old radio dramas, pulps and serials, and they do have that kind of sound to them. Especially circa WWII when the Japanese were REALLY not very popular. Hell, Kato, the Green Hornet's butt kicking chauffeur went from being his Japanese valet to later being Korean after Pearl Harbor, but still kept the "hilarious" stilted speech pattern.

Still while they SOUND like the kind of stilted dialogue with weird pronunciation that sounds very mock Asian, there isn't much in their style that otherwise evokes oriental culture. And then I ask myself how WOULD humanoid fish monsters talk?

Then I realize I'm overanalyzing and, fuck it, it's not worth it.
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>>86030867
>that pic
kek
>...and she has to back in temple before 10pm - do I make myself clear young man?
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>>86030806
That's not a very accurate image.
The only person who's officially a part of the Rebel Alliance on the left image is Cassian, Diego Luna's character.
Others are just hired/recruited for the Death Star job by him. And Finn is not even born yet.
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>>86036217
*right image

Also, is this how you get b8ed?
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>>86036244
Yes, and you fell for it. This is a pretty standard "Star Wars is nothing but SJW pandering now!" image.
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>>86033887
I checked around in a few places, and I haven't seen any recent mentions of the soundtrack. Keep in mind, our only knowledge of this isn't even officially from Lucasfilm, it was taken from Twitter.

Honestly, Lucasfilm has a mediocre track record releasing soundtracks that aren't from the movies, they mostly come up lacking. The only Clone Wars Soundtrack we had was alright, but still pretty small. Kiner and other composers upload a lot of the tracks on their own sites, but it's still nowhere near complete. I hope they give Rebels a complete release, and not just repackage the audio cues that are already on the Star Wars site.
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>>86036241
Her hat is just as surprised as she is.
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Posting Rebels stuff
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I feel like they're hyping Sabine up too much, but I also don't go anywhere other than /co/
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>new phone background
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>>86036964
We've known forever this season has a focus on her and Mandos. She's finally getting her character development.
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>>86036964
Haha, that thumbnail makes her nose look so damn pointy.
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>>86036964
That bitch better not be digging her claws into Ezra
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>>86036938
I like that Maul is the "Dark Side" equivalent to ANH Obi-Wan.
Plus the General Kota traits that Kanen is showing now.
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>>86036964
is she half sand person?
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>>86036930
Tom Baker's in Star Wars now, huh.
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>>86036980
Shit
that's like jk rowling saying that harry potter play ain't canon and then writing a new 8 to most likely contradict it
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>>86036988
>spend a season on the most boring character and the most boring race in all of Star Wars.

So outside of the three Thrawn centric episodes, it's going to be a completely shit season, huh?
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>>86036990
>groundbreaker

what has Rebels done that nothing else has? or has "groundbreaking" become another meaningless hype word thrown out when you have nothing good to say about something?
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>>86038369
but it's based on a book, which is "canon" for as much as that matters for a shit book series like Potter.

I don't think I've ever seen a "canon fight" in the Potter fandom, maybe they're actually better than us.
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Guys GUYS
What do you think about Star Wars?
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>>86038941
it's an okay fantasy story, nothing really amazing but you can do worst than watch the movies or reading the comics/books like watching the TV show.
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>>86033028
>revealed the true identity of Snoke, and it's actually Meebur Gascon controlling a fake hologram
Anon, I'm pretty sure it's Meebur Gascon controlling a REAL hologram...
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>>86034598
>Evacuate?! In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their asshole!
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>>86039037
You're partly right, in Episode IX The Revengencing of the JediSith Wars they'll reveal that Snoke is really a con-man from Nebraska who ended up in The Galaxy when his hot air balloon was blown off course in a tornado./spoiler]
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>>86038941
It's a good movie and the sequel, The Empire Strikes Back, is even better.
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>>86034598
>Confer on you, the level of Jedi Knight the Coucil does. But agree on you taking this asshole as your Padawan learner, I do not.
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>>86034598
>Master, sir, I heard Yoda talking about assholes. I've been wondering, what are assholes?
>Assholes are a microscopic lifeform that resides within all living cells.
>They live inside me?
>Inside your cells, yes. And we are simbiants with them.
>Simbiants?
>Lifeforms living together for mutual advantage. Without the assholes life could not exist; and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to us, telling us the will of the Force. When you learn to quiet your mind, you'll hear them speaking to you.
>I don't understand.
>With time and training, Ani, you will. You will.
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>>86034598

>Good. Our first asshole of the day.
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http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/09/amy-hennig-talks-viscerals-action-adventure-star-wars-game.html

>Authentic Star Wars can mean that we get the AT-ST right, right? And of course we have to do that too, but it’s all about the new stuff, the new characters, the new story, the new locations, the new creatures, the new tech.

>but it’s all about the new stuff, the new characters, the new story, the new locations, the new creatures, the new tech.

Everyone's just taking shots at JJ now
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Are they implying that Sabine will be the next waifu to get the axe?

Does anyone waifu Sabine? Like, unironically.
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>>86039729
There's probably someone.
She is pretty cute after all.
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>>86039729
I'd fuck her, but I wouldn't cuddle afterwards.
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>>86039606
>Everyone's just taking shots at JJ now

Well, he does pretty much have it coming. He made a Star Wars movie that actively shit on the entire franchise. Any manner of negativity he gets in regards to Star Wars is entirely deserved.
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>>86039729
>>86039766
>>86039802
Do you think Sabine likes it rough? She is a mando after all.
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Post planetfu.
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>>86039833
She's probably the type who can't orgasm until she hears an explosion. So she keeps some concussion grenades near her bed and when she wants to skidoosh she sets one off.

You could probably give her some intense orgasm denial by holding a detonator to a big crate of thermal charges just out of her reach.
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>>86039898
That's pretty darn hot
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>>86035412
I don't really understand people's "racist" complaints. What better way to acknowledge the ugly existence of racial stereotypes than to turn them into literal grubby aliens while their human "counterparts" are respectably normal?
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>>86039606
>Everyone's just taking shots at JJ now
He deserves it.

He came in to make ANH 2.0, and while he thought he was making the ultimate Star Wars movie, all the other Lucasfilm creators are looking at JJ like "really dude?"

Filoni, Rian, Gareth, Amy, literally everyone in recent months is talking about how they're working on bringing us new stuff now, and it's all because of JJ. I hope he is aware of this shit, but that fuckers huge ego has probably blinded him of any criticism.
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>>86039729
>Does anyone waifu Sabine? Like, unironically.
lowkey, she was cool in s1
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>>86039898
remember boys
Ezra touches down now that he's 17
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>>86039872
>Make the Empire great again
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>>86039872
I hope we see more Nar Shaddaa in nucanon. I would love it if they visited it in Rebels or something.
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>>86040026
>and it's all because of JJ.

Not entirely. He had help. Pic related (who also should never be allowed to have a say so in matters pertaining to Star Wars as he's one of the worst kinds of Star Wars fans).
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>>86039729
I would love to waifu her, but she's pretty annoying and Bo-Katan is a better Mando Waifu.
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>>86040219
>Nar Shaddaa

That looks like if Coruscant's top levels were torn away to reveal the ghetto levels down below.
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>>86040210
Water planets best planets
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>>86040222
>Simon Pegg
what'd he have to do with making Star Wars?
Or is this just because he doesn't like the prequels?
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>>86040026
>He came in to make ANH 2.0, and while he thought he was making the ultimate Star Wars movie, all the other Lucasfilm creators are looking at JJ like "really dude?"
Really? Is there any public declaration about Lucas Art people talking shit about him?

Jar Jar totally deserve this.
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>>86039872
>wanting to be on some shitty planet when you could be flying around mother fucking outer space
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>>86040295
it's mostly people reading into quotes like
>>86039606
and deciding that everyone agrees with them.
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>>86034598
>"Fear will keep the systems in line. Fear of this asshole
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>>86040219
I didn't liked that vision of Nar Shadaa, it looks too much like a Third World shit hole.

I prefer to imagine Nar Shadaa as a space Vegas. Clean on the outside, and rotten on the inside.
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>>86040295
Not talking shit about him, but literally everyone in recent months has talked about the importance of doing new things, and not just copying the old, which could strongly be inferred to be a jab at JJ's mentality of Star Wars.
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>>86040276
>what'd he have to do with making Star Wars?

He had creative input on the script/screenplay through JJ because they're tight. JJ went deferring to Pegg where he aught to have rightfully been consulting George as it was originally meant to be as Lucas actually offered his services as a consultant when they were going into prodiction. But he/they didn't want George because they're under the impression that 'George doesn't get Star Wars anymore'.
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>>86040222
What's the deal with smug 30 year olds who act fucking crazy when you so much as imply that some movie or game wasn't as bad as genocide or the extinction of all mankind? The prequels weren't very good movies, but people like Pegg and JJ act fucking insane with their dislike for them.
>>86040256
From the wording of your reply I'm getting the sense that you've never heard of Nar Shaddaa. You should play the Dark Forces games since they feature Nar Shaddaa as levels a few times. Normally it's shown at nighttime with tons of Las Vegas style signs everywhere instead of the picture I posted.
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>>86040344
>be a spaceship
>fly around
>Imperial checkpoint. Gotta pay a fine for being a dirty spacer
>Pirates attack
>gotta pay to fix the damages
>accidentally land on a Hutt controlled planet
>now your ship belongs to the Hutts. Gotta work your ass off in spice mines to buy it back
>get into space after thirty-eight years of back breaking labour
>bloody pirates again!
I'll pass.
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>>86040424
>He had creative input on the script/screenplay through JJ because they're tight.
Source?
>they're under the impression that 'George doesn't get Star Wars anymore'.
Well there's also the evidence of the prequels and the big backlash to them from Star Wars fans.
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>>86040424
Well they're right, he doesn't

And he never did

Because 'his' Star Wars isn't 'our' Star Wars, which is apparently just space ships and smugglers
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>>86036980
I hope the audio version of the book is voiced by Marc Thompson, he did a great job with the original thrawn trilogy, and then with the hand of thrawn books.

Infact, i'm a little sad he isnt voicing thrawn in rebels.
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>>86040511
>destruction
>destruction
>destruction
>destruction
Me too bruh.
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>>86040462
>The prequels weren't very good movies, but people like Pegg and JJ act fucking insane with their dislike for them.


At least Prequels were different shit. But i guess over the years (and maybe if VII and IX have new ideas and a real story) People will start to hate the 7th like they actually do for the prequels.
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>>86040462
Because people value the memory of their childhood so much that they latch onto it, feeling like they own it as if it were a real, constant and unchanging state of being
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>>86040537
>destruction
>destruction
>destruction
>destruction
I'm not sure i follow?
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>>86040219
>Those ships


Has the drawer never saw Star Wars? It looks more from an european scifi comics.
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>>86040545
>At least Prequels were different shit.
That really doesn't mean anything in regards to them being well made or enjoyable. It just means they were different. People cracking open a book on a historical fictional telling of the Civil War (their favorite type of fiction I suppose), and instead finding that the inside was a Highschool Anime Drama, comic wouldn't say "well at least it's different" they'd be agitated that it wasn't what they'd wanted or expected.
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>>86040462
>From the wording of your reply I'm getting the sense that you've never heard of Nar Shaddaa.
I've heard of it before only by name. I'll not deny that I really have no familiarity with that world.

>>86040462
>What's the deal with smug 30 year olds
I thought they were in their mid 40s.


>>86040465
>Source?
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/long-time-ago-just-now-simon-pegg-star-wars/
>I am on set as a consultant, acting as a sounding board for J.J., who is making tweaks to the already wonderful screenplay.


>Well there's also the evidence of the prequels and the big backlash to them from Star Wars fans.
From a very vocal minority.
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Does anyone else besides me want a A count dooku novel by James luceno exploring his life? I feel that it's an untapped goldmine. No one's really shown him from his youth as a jedi all the way to the end. Sure, we saw some of his history in darth plagius but I want an entire book spanning his whole life
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>>86040851
>From a very vocal minority.
the vocal ones are the ones that, surprise, get their voices heard. Typically because they're the only ones that care enough to say anything.
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>>86040898
That does not make their opinion the only one, only the loudest.
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>>86040922
And thus, the one that is heard, and the one that the people making the thing care about.
It's like not voting and then complaining that the people that did got what they wanted and you didn't.
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>>86040884
As cool as it would be, it wouldn't really fit in with everything else being released currently. If they went back and started releasing a lot more unused TCW stuff, maybe, but as of now they are only focusing on OT and prior-to TFA stories. The Dooku novel would have to have some huge, thought out kind of connection to something well into the OT/TFA eras for it to be worth doing at this stage in time.
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>>86040884
People thought the same about Anakin Skywalker, and that didn't turn out well at all.
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>>86040946
That implies they are the only ones giving the opinion. It's like voting but not exclaiming your choice to everyone you know.
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>>86040884
It sounds nice, but I can't really speak to how worth it it'd be. The only really interesting time would be the period where Dooku breaks away from the Order. It would be neat seeing how a former Jedi reconnects with his estate after decades of living for others. Then there's his training under Sidious which would no doubt be enriching, as well as his coming to lead the Separatist movement.
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Someone need to tweet JJ and Simon Pegg with the Pablo tweet about the Prequels being liked just about the same as the OT, and even more internationally.
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>>86041196
how internationally known is the original trilogy anyway?
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>>86040630
https://youtu.be/jRAOcRBDr-A
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>>86040884

That could be a big fucking book. No one would want to do that. It'd have to be certain events in different stages of his life at least. But certainly not something detailing his whole life.

>An event during his time as a youngling (which could give a little exposition into how he was brought into the Jedi order and some insight into his old family)
>When he becomes the Padawan of Yoda and maybe some of their earliest assignments
>The event that leads him to becoming knighted
>When he takes Qui-gon Jinn as his padawan and eventually becomes a Jedi Master
>the event that leads to Qui-gon completing his apprenticeship and is knighted
>Things concerning the general neglect of the Outer-rim
>His disagreements with the Jedi Council becoming more intense and learning that Qui-gon has since been promoted to being a Jedi Master and taking on an apprentice
>Conflict between him and the Council take their toll and he is then contacted and persuaded to cooperate with the Dark Lord of The Sith
>Orders the Clone Army with Sifo Dyas, murders him (completely turning to the Dark Side) and hires Jango Fett as the clone template
>Leaves the Jedi order shortly before the trade dispute/invasion on Naboo
>Officially becomes Darth Sidious' new apprentice and starts setting up the foundations for the CIS
>Basically the events of AoTC, but through his perspective
>An Event during the Clone Wars hevily involving him that wasn't covered in TCW (hopefully including Tarkin)
>Final chapter is shit leading to the Battle of Corsucant
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>>86031030
>>86031393
Of course, Tup's primary skill is unloading into Jedi
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>>86041215
European actually prefer the OT because of the JJ's propaganda.
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>>86041313
It wouldn't have to be in one book you dingus.

It could be spread across three or four.
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>>86041313
Do it like an in universe biography of him.
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>>86040537
>>86041281
>endgame
>game
>game
>game
https://youtu.be/9jbIyHTnWLI
They're just trailers dude.
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>>86041370
I'm from England, and I have never met any prequel haters IRL. Not that I speak to many people, but yeah. In fact, everyone I have spoken to prefers the Prequels. Family, friends, everyone.
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>>86041586
He said European.
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>>86041370
>>86041586

French are JJ's ass eater. But hey, they're French, they will change their mind when a new strong guy will be "behind" Star Wars.
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>>86041605
Oh right, Brexit lel

>>86041642
>French
No surprise there, fuck France.
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>>86040993
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>>86041720
Okay, does your pic convey
>bait
or does it convey
>JJ
?

Either could work
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>>86041281
I'm really digging Thrawn's voice actor.

Please don't be a jobber
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>>86041951
>Please don't be a jobber
Assume the position, anon.
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>>86031982
Despite being the Chosen One Anakin had a lot of flaws. He could be too emotional, he made mistakes and he got his ass kicked sometimes. Worst Rey got was a little sweaty.
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>>86041377
We'd be lucky to see even 1 book about Dooku's life. Forcing it over 3 or 4 would be asking too much.
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>>86039606
He deserves it after all the stuff he said before. You can't go around boasting about how you were trying to be more creative than the previous films and produce something that was the opposite.
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>>86042027
>Worst Rey got was a little sweaty.
Ironically, not on Jakku.
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http://www.starwars.com/news/poll-who-is-the-best-star-wars-rebels-villain

>Poll: Who is the Best Star Wars Rebels Villain?

>Azmorigan
>29%

KEK
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>>86032568

If you really read that far....you'd realize that you might be wrong.
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>>86040041
DELET
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>>86033024

>"it's been a pleasure working with you, Anakin"

Wow, Thanoth was a badass...
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>>86043436
>There are people voting for 5B
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>>86036951
>That puffy vulva
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>>86043599
Reminder that SS got dragged down by her useless partner

http://webmshare.com/jMgy6
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>>86043436
>Only 4% for Sister
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>>86040397
Hasn't Nar Shaddaa ALWAYS been portrayed like a third-world shithole?
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>>86038941
It's shit!
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>>86043726
T-They just don't appreciate her 'unique personality'.

Especially the young boys...even though there is nothing to fear. She only has their best interests at heart.
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>>86043646
I wonder how she'd had fared if she was paired with that other Inky instead of Inquisitor Dumb Muscles.
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>>86043513
Why wanting that Goddess to pick Ezra up?
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>>86043915
Because it's her thing. She needs to defile pure, young boys.
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>>86043726
it's down to 3% now, bud.
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>>86043989
To Bad she's dead, she could have been hunting Luke after ANH. He's the pure young boy she deserve.
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>>86043436
>http://www.starwars.com/news/poll-who-is-the-best-star-wars-rebels-villain


Damn, can we fuck the poll up like for the Black Series one? /SS/ deserves to win
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>>86044197
No she doesn't.
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>>86044197
Sorry, looks like the trolls have already rallied behind Azmorigan.
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>>86036930
The Sisyphus comparison is pretty good, though I don't know what Witwer's talking about when he says Maul's learned from his mistakes.
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>>86044601
It seems like Maul realizes individual aspects of his previous plans don't work but fails to understand that he's just setting himself up for constant failure. He still plays his hand too early, he still doesn't realize he's not as good at manipulation as Sidious, and he still doesn't think any of his plans through. He's Sisyphus not because he's doomed to have a cursed boulder always roll back downhill, but because it always rolls down the hill because of his own actions and he consistently fails to understand why this keeps happening.
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>>86044311
DELETE THIS
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>>86044197
>8B not even listed
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>>86044927
8B a shit
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>>86044818
I hope Ezra puts him out of his misery.

Also, do you guys think Luke have will have appearances in later seasons? mite b cool to see Luke leading strike teams post Endor
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>>86045167
The only bro who's not a shit is /SS/
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>>86045313

If they do, it'll probably be when Ezra or Kanan aren't around. Part of the thing with Luke is that apart from Obi-wan and Yoda, he had no guidance and had to figure shit out by himself. He was mostly alone when it came to learning the ways of the force. Thus why Ezra's so much more proficient than him.
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>>86045411
>gets killed by Captain Repeated Failure
nah SS a shit too
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>>86045882
But Maul is a hella ultra mega kickass not Sith warrior who kills 1000 guys at once and is unkillable! He is a true ultimate brilliant genius mastermind who is hiding behind seven keikakus!
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>>86046061
He kills the inquisitors and doesn't afraid of anything!
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>>86046061
>"Truthfully... I was trying to blind you all along! My brilliant plan to blind you and make you see with the Force and throw me off the pyramid and make me scream like a bitch went off perfectly! Now my plan to airlock you so you can then find a way back into my base will also succeed! Just as my plan to get my brother killed and have my mommy sacrificed herself for me and then have Sidious destroy my criminal empire and leave me without a power base also occurred just as I had planned it!"
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Ahsoka a shit.
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>>86046221
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>>86042027
She banged up the Falcon pretty good in her first flight, almost got Finn tentacle raped, freaked out when she found out about her destiny crap, keeps wanting to return to Jakku, didn't want to help BB-8 at first, almost sold his ass, got captured by Kylo Ren. And mind tortured. Frankly she's lucky she got him. I doubt Snoke would have freaked out when she pushed back and I doubt she could get in his mind. Vader either. Kylo is just a special kind of damaged goods. But she almost lost to him the second time.

Really she's mostly good at ship spelunking, good at fiddling with machines, and fairly decent with her staff. Not the best with a lightsaber, helps that her opponent was already pretty fucked up and again he's an emotional wreck. Really like Anakin, especially in Episode I, the best she has going for her is the Force is looking out for her ass.

Hilariously people talk about how she never needed saving and forget that Starkiller Base was on lockdown with the hangers guarded, so even if she could fly a TIE she'd have to get into one, somehow avoid being shot down by the air defenses, and ultimately hope it has a hyperdrive. Her running around wasn't actually escaping, she's still lucky the others found her. Also she needed Chewie to show up in the Falcon while Starkiller was self-destructing. He also had to carry the wounded Finn for her. So really Chewie is the ultimate hero of the movie. And he STILL didn't get a damn hug!

The worst kid Anakin had was the Jedi Council rejected him, but that was only because they were scared of what they sensed in him. He still became a Jedi over their protests. Oh and he cried over having to leave his mommy.

He has a bit more emotional development if you include the deleted scene of him beating the shit out of Greedo. He has some pretty bad stuff, like his learning to fly wasn't pod racing any more than you could learn from a speeder but an old man pointed out some controls to him before reaching Naboo.
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>>86046221
ur a shit faget
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>>86046221
She was... But she's better in Rebels. And she's finally a QT
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Any idea when/if they're going to announce new series? With Darth Vader ending in October and Han Solo ending soon too, I would think they'd consider announcing replacements.

Is Poe the new Vader? Are we going back to just two ongoings?
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>>86046488
We were supposed to get two Rogue One-connected comics, but both were discreetly cancelled, so we've been left in the dark for now.

I imagine we'll get something announced to replace Han Solo soon though.
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>>86046404
Source?
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>>86046298
Luke is another fun one. He whines because his uncle wants him to do his chores, won't let him go to flight school, his other friends are leaving, sand people are mean to him, the droids won't behave, Han is a dick, the remote droid is an even bigger dick, Leia is a bitch, the tentacle monster went for him, his old man mentor got stabbed by the dude he thinks murdered his father

but it still seems weird how quickly the Alliance let him fly one of the few highly specialized starfighters they had during an attack so serious as the Death Star. Seems weird they had extras lying around unused, especially when we see all the dudes they had on the base during the medal ceremony. In the extended version the old commander accepts him pretty easy too. Guess it's the power of persuasion in Biggs pornstache.
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>>86046061
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>>86046719

"Just like old times" by BaseDesire, on hentai foundry
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>>86046995
Thanks pal
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>>86046833
Taking bets on how Maul gets BTFO this season
He's likely to be in a few episodes, so there's multiple chances for him to fail spectacularly
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>>86047073
At least one of his humiliations will come at the hands of Ezra

He'll also get dunked on by Kanan again
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>>86046298

The big issue with Rey in TFA is that nobody else ever gets a turn to be the hero of the scene if Rey's both present and conscious.

Rey flies the ship, aims the ship for Finn, saves Han from the gangsters by releasing the rathtars, saves Finn from a rathtar, puts the Falcon into hyperspace, finds the saber, breaks herself out of prison and meets up with her would-be rescuers on her own, gets the whole team into the oscillator, and then beats Kylo Ren.

It's true that when she's completely separated from everyone else on Takodana she gets captured. And it's true that she's unable to save Han from Kylo Ren (granted she is on a balcony three stories up and literally entirely unable to get to him). And it's true that Finn opens the lightsaber duel (because Rey is LITERALLY UNCONSCIOUS).

But the fact is that any time Rey is present for the action, she's always the center of attention and the one saving everyone else. Rey has to actually be removed from the scene entirely for Abrams to resist the temptation to just have her save everybody. This is bad writing, and it's why Rey feels overpowered: because she constantly makes the rest of the team look useless.

This never happened with Anakin or Luke. The critical scenes in each movie are almost always team efforts where everyone gets a turn to save the day. Even in the Battle of Yavin, the part that famously looks like Luke's solo victory, Luke needs his wingmen: Biggs and Wedge each save his life at least once during the battle, R2 keeps needing to patch up the damage he takes, and of course he'd have been completely fucking dead if not for Han swooping in at the last minute.

Rey saves everyone else from every situation she's involved in, is only defeated once while completely cut off from everyone else, and can't give anyone else a chance to shine. Finn gets the worst of this, becoming a useless load for the whole rest of the movie after Jakku, with Han taking Rey's dominant position when Rey is absent.
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>>86047112
With Sabine now having the darksaber, I think it's going to be her turn to make Maul scream like a little bitch
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>>86047202
>it's going to be her turn to make Maul scream like a little bitch

In more ways than one...
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>>86046833
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>>86047200
Han Solo saved them by jumping the Falcon within another ship. She couldn't have escaped Jakku without Finn telling her to fly low and him manning the guns. She kept getting the Falcon shot (yet people still swears she flies perfectly) and because of this she gets his gun damaged. They relied on each other, just as the first time Finn grabs her hand, which she hated, saved her by pulling her out of the tent before those TIEs destroyed it. Finn actually faired a bit better than Rey initially did against Kylo Ren. He at least stood his ground a bit better, she mostly ran until she was trapped against a cliff drop.

Also she saves Finn after nearly getting him killed. Diminishes her awesomeness a bit. Not that she even meant to release the rathtars, she was freaking out over seeing them eating people.
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>>86047418
It's too bad Maul didn't get to see Dooku's head come crashing down off his shoulders.
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>>86047200
Don't forget that when there actually are consequences for her wrongdoings, she's the one to fix everything again.
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>>86047553
At least Dooku had a somewhat dignified end, while Maul went on to have at least 15 years of constant failure punctuated by girly screams every time it happens.
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>>86047643
I think we're on 17 years after ROTS, so that's two extra years of being a little bitch!
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>>86047200
>Rey saves everyone else from every situation she's involved in, is only defeated once while completely cut off from everyone else, and can't give anyone else a chance to shine.

Also you overlooked what was already said. Rey beats Kylo Ren but she's stick in the woods with a wounded Finn she can't carry and no hope off escaping. Chewie not only had to show up in the Falcon but had to leave the ship to carry Finn. She couldn't even save her friend with an escape vessel right in front of them.

>Finn gets the worst of this, becoming a useless load for the whole rest of the movie after Jakku, with Han taking Rey's dominant position when Rey is absent.
Finn needed help from everyone. Couldn't escape without Poe. Needed Rey to get him off Jakku. Needed Han to save him from TR-8R. Needed Chewie to save him when he was unconscious on Starkiller. It's weird you blame Rey of all people for this when it was Finn's most consistent character trait.
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Sabine is going to pin Maul down and peg him
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>>86047643
>dignified end
>executed while defenseless
Sure buddy.
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Finally found the Star Wars: The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia on an obscure russian torrenting site anyone want an upload?
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>>86047705
That would make a great hentai pic.
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>>86047775
Draaaaaawfags!
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>>86047735

His head was held high.

Even if he was on his knees.
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>>86047735
Dooku got played but he at least had the decency not to whine and beg and take his death like a man.

Meanwhile, by this point screaming like a little bitch has become Maul's trademark. Even getting his robot leg shot off had him screaming like he was about to be raped.
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>>86047949
>Even getting his robot leg shot off had him screaming like he was about to be raped.
From what I remember this was actually the very thing that inspired this >>86047699 in the first place.
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>>86047767
Yes please.
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>>86047703

>It's weird you blame Rey of all people for this when it was Finn's most consistent character trait.

Like I said in the same part of my post that you directly quoted, Han took over when Rey was absent, but you're also missing the parts where Finn needed Rey to line up his turret shot, save him from the rathtars, and save him from Kylo Ren delivering the final blow. I'm blaming Rey because she's the one who overshadows him the most by an enormous margin.

There's a clear pecking order in TFA, where Rey is the most useful character, Han is the second-most, Chewie is third, Poe is fourth, Finn is borderline useless, and BB-8 is ACTUALLY useless and could be easily replaced by Poe just throwing the map over a sand dune where Rey finds it.
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>>86047948
>>86047949
I think most of us know the story already, but it bears repeating: Dooku was originally scripted to beg for his life, but Christopher Lee felt this was out of character and his pride wouldn't let him beg. So Lucas changed it because you don't say no to Christopher Lee
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>>86048285
Yep, and you can still find evidence of it here and there. For example, it's still in the comic adaptation since apparently the author didn't get the memo. The novelization also has him whining to Palpatine about being promised immunity.
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>>86048230
>Han took over when Rey was absent
But the post you replied to pointed out that Finn needed help from the very beginning, before he even met Rey. He needed Poe's help to escape the First Order.
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>She will never touch you like that
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>>86046488
I think Poe is more like the new Kanan. Not a mini-series, but still a limited run.
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>>86048841
>She will never steal your babies
;-;
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>>86048967
It's a little weird. Kanan and Vader were both originally promoted as ongoing, but Kanan ended once its story arc was completed and Vader's about to do the same. So were they both always meant to end at a certain point or were they originally meant to continue indefinitely and have multiple story arcs but someone decided to just cut them after the current arc?
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>>86049052
But she stole your heart
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>>86048158
Here you go anon http://www52.zippyshare.com/v/OOYjVb2p/file.html
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>>86047286
pic needs a nemoidian.
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>>86049085
I think issue count might be the thing. Like if it's only 5-6 issues, you market it as a limited series, but if the book is scheduled to go on for 24 issues, you just call it ongoing because it's not going to end for two years. Plus marketing it as "Issue 2 of 25!" just makes it seem tedious.
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>>86048409
The comic also shows Qui-gon communicating with Yoda on Polis Massa.
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>>86049088
She sure did, she sure did...
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>>86048841
Is there any lewd of that mother?
For reasons and such.
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>>86049052
Don't be so certain anon.
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>>86049117
Thanks, man.
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>>86036930
>Tom Baker has his own agenda

They gave Tom creative control? THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
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>>86036970
Why do guns in Star Wars either have a scope, or no sights at all? Do irons not exist in this universe?
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>>86047073
Sheev turns up just to kick his ass
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>>86049403
Screw ADS:ing when you can be badass and hipfire all the time!
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>>86049435
I'll accept it if they get McDiarmid. Also if he finally puts Maul down.
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>>86049403
They were in the same storage bin as the shipment of safety railings.
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>>86049635
They've already used Witwer as Sheev in Rebels.
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>>86047073
hopefully Maul is the designated bad guy death this season.

it would be a fitting end to him, he gets resurrected, does nothing of any importance in the story, hides for seventeen years, vows to get his revenge, continues to do nothing of any importance and then die again.
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>>86049717
I know, but I don't like his Sheev and Filoni has said he's always open to getting movie actors.
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>>86049767
Why pay out the ass for an actor when you already have the guy that does the knock-off voice doing another character at the time? No amount of you not liking it will make McDiarmid be hired.
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>>86049767
McDiarmid's been saying he wants to play Palpatine again for a few years now, no idea why nobody has taken him up on it. Apparently he's not even getting a cameo in Rogue One.
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>>86049832
Same reason they got Frank Oz when Tom Kane had already worked extensively with Filoni. The actor was willing to do it.
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>>86049832
>No amount of you not liking it will make McDiarmid be hired.
You're acting like we're not talking about vague what if scenarios.
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Isn't the problem that the original actors are incredibly expensive?
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>>86049832
>No amount of you not liking it will make McDiarmid be hired.
It's pretty unlikely since Witwer is friends with Filoni but I wouldn't say never on it.
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>>86049767
>and Filoni has said he's always open to getting movie actors.

One at a time, maybe. S1 we got BDW, S2 we got JEJ. If Maul is gonna die this season, that'll probably mean Vader's coming back. Which means JEJ, and the outrageous expenses for making Vader look good (fabric movement, helmet sheen, ect). So McDiarmid coming back is very VERY unlikely.
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How likely is a Maul vs. Vader fight in season three?
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>>86049933
Usually, but according to Freddie, Rebels is able to pay guest actors better, while TCW didn't pay all that well. That would explain how they were able to get Billy Dee, JEJ and Frank Oz. I think Witwer getting the role of Sheev was partially due to existing connections and probably also because it was such a small role for the season that there wasn't any point in getting McDiarmid. I don't think this necessarily excludes them from ever getting him if they can, but I see them just sticking with Witwer if Sheev ever gets a bigger role on the show.
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>>86050052
Not likely, Vader is going to be used extremely sparingly if at all next season (Dave says)
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>>86050052
Supposedly Vader's going to be very light this season or even completely absent, so probably not likely. If he fights Maul at all in season 3 I'd guess it'll be Vader's only appearance in the season.

Sadly this means that if Vader doesn't fight and kill Maul this season, they're probably going to have Maul survive for yet another season so they can then have that fight.
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>>86050090
>Not likely

Unless Maul's going to bite it this season. In which case Vader appearing is guaranteed.
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>>86050158
My biggest hope is for them to not even bother with the Vader/Maul fight and have him die some other way without meeting Vader at all.
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>>86050247
>The Empire has tracked Maul to some planet
>he's there fighting Ezra and Kanan
>a shuttle lands, but it's just stormtroopers and they start blasting
>Ezra and Kanan take advantage of the distraction and fatally wound Maul before running
>Maul is unable to fight back as the stormtroopers finish him off
>another shuttle lands with Vader
>"Sir, the rebels have fled, but we killed Maul."
>"Pity. I had hoped to kill him myself."
>Vader stares at the camera for several seconds before the credits roll
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>>86050662

I don't need to be cucked like that, anon.
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>>86050744
He deserves it, having hung around for this long.
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>>86050662
>IGN: In the season 3 finale, you almost had Vader fight Maul, but he arrives after Maul is already dead. People have expressed a lot of discontent with this. Were you aware that fans would react like this? What made you decide not to have the two fight?

>Filoni: (laughs) Well, we thought about it. That's how we started this whole thing, we thought 'wouldn't it be cool if Maul fought Vader' and I was going to have Vader kill him at the end of season 2. But there's a point where you realize you're doing fanservice for the sake of fanservice. It doesn't inform the story, and the more we looked at it, the more we realized that the fight itself wouldn't be exciting. By this point Maul is getting beaten by Kanan and Ezra, what challenge does he provide for Vader? It would be too one-sided.

>IGN: What were you trying to tell us when you had Vader stare at the camera like this?

>Filoni: (laughs)

>IGN: Dave?

>Filoni: (laughs)

>IGN: Dave, you're kind of freaking me out.

>Filoni: (laughs)

>Stay tuned for part 2 of this interview!
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>>86050662
>people spend years debating who will kill Maul
>the killing shot is from a random stormtrooper
Perfect
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>>86051132
It'd be great poetry too, since he went from being the apprentice of Darth Sidious to directly challenging Sidious to being so unimportant that a minor footsoldier in Sidious's Empire is the one that kills him.
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>>86050017
>S2 we got JEJ.
Vader really doesn't sound like JEJ in Rebels, not to me at least. I wonder if they forgot what the mixing was for his voice.
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>>86045486
>he had no guidance and had to figure shit out by himself.
According to whom? He learned a great deal of things in between ANH and ESB. He learned even more during ESB to ROTJ.

>Thus why Ezra's so much more proficient than him.
Not after ESB. Luke would've slapped the shit out of Ezra post Bespin.
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>>86051370
It's not really the mixing, it's just his age. This is just what he sounds like now.
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>>86049403
I assume they don't use irons because those weapons are specially for use with helmets. Mandos and Clonetroopers use weapons that communicate with their HUD's.
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>>86051388
He sounds a lot younger.
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>>86051370
He definitely sounds like JEJ, but he does sound a bit different from what he did decades ago. The guy's 85, so his voice doesn't have the same aggressiveness and he does sound more tired. Tired JEJ still sounds more menacing than Matt Sloan, though.

If they ever need a replacement, I wish they'd go back to Scott Lawrence.
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>>86051370
It's his old age plus the lack of accent
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>>86050931
I'm dying here anon, this is perfect.

I'm also glad you gave a quote that Filoni himself would give when he talks about storytelling, it makes it funnier. so props to you for being informed.
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>>86050931
Holy shit anon, I thought that was real for a second.
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So, who's dying this season? A bad guy has to die cause we can't have the kiddies being forced to remember who people are.

So will Thrawn, like so many other "big serious threats", be killed off at the end in a rather inglorious way? Or will Filioni grow some balls and kill his waifu, Maul?

Or will they both be packed onto a bus while a no name Bad Guy dies in their place?
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>>86051579
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>>86051385
>According to whom?

Canon. He had no guidance between Obi-wan and Yoda. Anytime he looked for anything relating to the Jedi that he could've used, he got fucked out of it.

> He learned a great deal of things in between ANH and ESB.

No, he really didn't.

>He learned even more during ESB to ROTJ.

True, but not nearly enough to says he's proficient in the ways of the force.

>Not after ESB. Luke would've slapped the shit out of Ezra post Bespin.

lolnope. We've seen Ezra by the end of S2 show much greater prowess with the force than Luke did, and he's clearly a better sworsman than Luke was in RoTJ. And that's all because he had consistent guidance and mentoring, which Luke did not.

By end of RoTJ, Luke more or less knew what it meant to be a Jedi knight and understood their ways. But in a dick measuring contest between him and almost anyone who's studied the Jedi arts, Luke falls very short. The potential is there for him to be great, one of the very best ever. He should very much be a beast in the ST time. But by RoTJ, skill wasn't anything special.
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>>86051617
It wouldn't surprise me if Maul dies.
Hopefully they'll save Thrawn to be used again later. Pls send him to investigate the Vong
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>>86051664
The Vong are never coming back, anon.
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>>86051641
>But by RoTJ, skill wasn't anything special.

But by RoTJ, Luke's skill wasn't anything special.
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>>86051676
A MAN CAN DREAM ANON
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>>86051617
I think they'll keep Thrawn around a while longer, since they know he's a good attention-grabber, in fact I expect him to survive the series altogether and be killed off somewhere else at another point. Maul's probably going to survive this season but I think even Filoni will realize his story is dragging out too long and he'll get the axe in season 4.

My bet on the gratuitous villain death this season this season is Kallus.
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>>86051699
your dreams are shit
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>>86051676
They almost showed up in TCW, at the time when Legends wasn't really a thing yet and TCW still fit into it. The LSG would have had no choice but to keep the Vong in, in some form, after keeping only the 6 movies and TCW for the start of the new canon.
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Where mah Naare-fags at? I summon thee.
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>>86051725
My dreams are the sweetest dreams of all, you wish you had my dreams Anon
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>>86051630
Torturing poor little Ashley...what FUN.
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>>86051701
Yeah, Kallus being the new Fulcrum is a huge death flag. He's going to get Tua'd.
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>>86047949
>Meanwhile, by this point screaming like a little bitch has become Maul's trademark. Even getting his robot leg shot off had him screaming like he was about to be raped.
To be fair, Nightsister magic and shit leaked out of his leg. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually felt pain from that.

>>86051617
Maul isn't Filoni's waifu. He was saved because of circumstance. Since we know he's the main dark side antagonist that means the plot is against him.
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>>86051749
I never thought I'd have a waifu made out of Lego, but then Naare comes along and proves me wrong
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>>86051749
Naare a cute.

I want to motorboat her
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>>86051788
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>>86051764
If anything Maul became George's husbando
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>>86051641
>Canon. He had no guidance between Obi-wan and Yoda. Anytime he looked for anything relating to the Jedi that he could've used, he got fucked out of it.
That was EU. We're getting a lot of new information in new canon. See comics and novels. Luke has come into contact with powerful holocrons and enemies that have been constantly teaching him.

>No, he really didn't.
Luke learned the ability to calm his mind and semi-use the Force. That's a pretty big deal when a Wampa was about to chomp on him.

>True, but not nearly enough to says he's proficient in the ways of the force.
Again, according to whom? Especially with the shitload of content we're about to get.

>We've seen Ezra by the end of S2 show much greater prowess with the force than Luke did
Wrong. Luke fought Vader to a draw and eventually overpowered him. No character or person besides Sidious could have ever done that. And that's directly from Lucas.

>and he's clearly a better sworsman than Luke was in RoTJ.
This is a technical limitation of 80's technology. However, Luke is matching Vader blow for blow in speed and strength.

>And that's all because he had consistent guidance and mentoring, which Luke did not.
Doesn't really mean anything because Luke was training with Yoda for months/years
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>>86051792
Pity she's ice cold and stiff as a board
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>>86040196
My upstanding Imperial citizen.
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>>86051877
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>>86051919
>you will never be dominated by SS and Naare at the same time
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>>86051788
>>86051792
Mah niggas.
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>>86051918
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>>86051949
I feel your pain anon.
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>>86051641
>Canon. He had no guidance between Obi-wan and Yoda. Anytime he looked for anything relating to the Jedi that he could've used, he got fucked out of it.
Newcomer to the conversation but hat simply isn't 100% accurate. Luke has had some additional points of guidance and small pieces of training. He has not had a standard Jedi training by far, picking up as he goes. In many ways the man he is learning to be, with the help of his friends, is instrumental in the Jedi he will become.

But thus far after Obi-wan and prior to meeting Yoda the biggest influence on Luke has been...Vader. A very vocal group hated him meeting Vader so soon in the comics, prior to ESB, but really it was a very useful meeting. Luke was riding high on the victory over the Death Star and Vader knocked him back to reality. showed him simply how little he knew about the Force. How completely overwhelmed he was. But he also saw a lot of the tricks.

Luke has had a few sources. Weapon of the Jedi, I believe, has some, but he also learned something of combat from the arena master, the Sarge in the new goofy Stormtrooper squad. Some level of lightsaber training, at least, however briefly. He also was guided by the holocrons he opened for Grakkus on the location of a Jedi Temple that shows up in Vader down. Whatever he was learning there Obi-Wan told him that it was too soon, that the time wasn't right.

I've learned to look at the events the new canon is showing us as Luke's education being like a gigantic puzzle. He gains the pieces from various locations, and he doesn't always know what to do with the pieces he finds. You are correct that Obi-Wan and Yoda provide the most help and also help him recognize some of those pieces he'd earlier obtained and find out how they fit. But Luke has not had a classic Jedi upbringing. His education is very personal. It's as much about his life events, like learning Vader is his father, that shape the kind of Jedi he becomes.
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Reminder that next week on the 14th we get the Prequels Strike Back documentary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGyv85zitYg
Get hype boys
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>>86051845
>Doesn't really mean anything because Luke was training with Yoda for months/years
Well, Pablo has said that the Falcon took "about a month" to get to Bespin. So lets take a guess that the time they spend in the asteroid field, and sitting around Bespin before Vader shows up (although he was already there and I guess just waiting for Han and Leia to accept his dinner holo-vite) and say it's about two months of training with Yoda.
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>>86051728
There are some people who despite this swear it will never happen. But then there were people who swore Thrawn would never show up again.

I think at this point the Vong returning, in significantly altered fashion of course, is actually more likely than Mara Jade. Jaina and Jacen, ha, definitely toast. Some shadows of them, at least. Anakin Solo, eh, maybe he can be seen as a kind of merging with Ben Skywalker with combinations of Caedus? I don't know. I'm not really a Legends guy and the ones who are are probably planning Billboard 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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>>86052079
Okay, so lets say this.

The Vong will not come back as a massive galactic invasion of BDSM Body Modification enthusiasts that are so bad that they retconed Palpatine into an Anti-Villain.
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>>86051845
>We're getting a lot of new information in new canon. See comics and novels.

I haven't read Heir to The Jedi yet or any of the YA novels, but the comics is what I'm basing my claims on. Any Jedi artifact he was about to get his hands on he lost.

>Luke fought Vader to a draw and eventually overpowered him.

He won because of Vader's emotional handicap, not through skill at arms. If Vader's mind was right, he'd have beat Luke to shit in seconds.

>Doesn't really mean anything because Luke was training with Yoda for months/years

It means alot. Luke trained with Yoda only once. And with Dagobah's timewarping shit, that couldn't have been for more than two months.

Luke had pisspoor bare-knuckles training. Ezra's training was much longer and more comprehensive. And thus enables Ezra to display a level of skill and sophistication that Luke did not attain by RoTJ. He's shown much greater feats with the force and martial prowess easily exceeds anything Luke did. His fights with the Inquisitors and what we saw him doing in the S3 trailer is much more impressive than anything Luke did in the whole of the OT.
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>>86052079
>more likely than Mara Jade
Yeah, despite her popularity she's going to be tricky to bring back. You COULD bring her back just as the Emperor's Hand or even just make her another inquisitor, but it's looking more and more like Luke stays a bachelor and doesn't ever marry or have kids, and that was significant part of Mara Jade's story. Thrawn doesn't have that problem since he was never deeply connected to any canon characters other than being their enemy.
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>>86052205
I think Jade is most likely to be brought back as one of Luke's students.

Maybe they were in love or something, but she's dead now.
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>>86052251
That'd be really boring
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>>86052266
and that makes it different from the majority of Star Wars how?
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>>86052285
Just saying
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>>86052205
>turns out Mara Jade is actually Laura Dern's character in Episode VIII
Oh I want to see how people would react to this so badly...
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>>86043436
Azmorigan likes to enslave cute Twi'lek girls. He is my kind of scum.
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>>86051949
I want to be fucked by SS and Naare
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>>86052326
I'd expect bitching that she's not Shannon McRandle
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>>86051958
I really want to know how Jar Jar felt about Padme dying and being responsible for the Empire. Do you think he died depressed?

How did the Emperor explain Padme's death? Anakin killing a Senator, to fit with the "Jedi usurpers" story?
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>>86052326
Just like what happened with Thrawn, I'd expect the BRING BACK LEGENDS group to have with two simultaneous and contradictory reactions:

A. Ah, this is proof that Disney is listening to us! We have weakened them and soon they will invite us to the table so that we can negotiate the revival of Legends and the end of the so-called "new canon"!

B. FUCK YOU DISNEY WE'RE NOT STUPID YOU AREN'T MAKING US WATCH THIS THIS IS NOTHING BUT NAKED PANDERING AND WE WILL NOT FALL FOR IT WE WILL NEVER ACCEPT YOU DEATH TO DISNEY DEATH TO RIAN JOHNSON DEATH TO ALL WHO OPPOSE LEGENDS
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>>86052518
Probably "choked to death with the Force be a Jedi as she bravely tried to stop his slaughter" which is like 80% accurate to what happened.
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>>86052518
He was at her funeral, we saw Jar Jar looking sad, but given he doesn't seem aware of the other circumstances surrounding the Rise of the Empire I'd hazard he is more or less fine with it. Whatever misgivings he might have, well, he's pretty damn easily manipulated. I also cannot see anyone secretly relying on him. He's kind of...not good at keeping secrets.
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>>86052632
I imagine he's still friends with Bail Organa but isn't being let in on the rebellion for exactly this reason.
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I'd like to see a novel or comic about the direct aftermath of ROTS on the galaxy. How everyone reacts initially to the formation of the Empire (especially Bail, Mothma and Jar Jar), how everyone that knew the Jedi react to their "coup attempt on the Senate," etc. That could give some nice connections up to ANH where the Senate goes away and the Rebellion gains a huge jump-start of momentum.

At least we might be seeing a very small bit of this with Catalyst, since it supposedly has a part that happens before the Empire forms.
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>>86052680
At the same time they could use him since rarely do people expect Jar Jar to be effective or even relied upon.
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>>86052205
Mara Jade is going to be the final inquisitor revealed in the last arc of Season 3. Screencap this.
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>>86030461

I love star wars.

I love clone wars and rebels. I love you guys talking about here. Hell, I even love dave filoni!

The point is that you're all great people who I love star wars with, and that I want the force to be with you!
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>>86052865
fuck off.
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I've finally found it!
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>>86052864
I'm assuming the planning is already done for season 3, and Filoni already confirmed at Celebration that Mara Jade won't be showing up. It wasn't a "well, maybe yes maybe no" like Ahsoka's fate, it was a full on "no, it isn't happening" just like with the idea of Dash and the ysalamiri.
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>>86052898
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>>86052865
Ew, gay.
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>>86052057
Like Mortis, Dagobah doesn't have timeflow. Luke was training with Yoda for a long time.

>He won because of Vader's emotional handicap
People keep saying this but there is no proof of it. He literally overpowers Vader at one point straight up before flipping away. When Luke laments he feels the conflict he's talking about Vader making pauses and non deadly strikes. Before you say that's what you mean, Luke is also doing the same thing. They're both not trying to kill each other. The (non-canon) novelization has Vader almost scared at how powerful Luke is. And even Lucas mentions that Luke has all of Anakin's potential post Mustafar. However, when Luke gets enraged he defeats Vader effortlessly. Aside from the dated choreography, if it was made today it would rival Obi-Wan vs Anakin on Mustafar.

>Luke had pisspoor bare-knuckles training
Again, this is primitive 80's choreography. Luke is flipping and moving with swift speed in ROTJ. It it were made today, it would look like the Prequels but they did not have the technology. Luke is implied to be Anakin levels of dexterity.
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>>86052918
But Dash Rendar was clearly in the trailer, so Filoni was LYING
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>>86053090
>clearly

No.
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>>86052865
<3
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>Author said that the fic was pre-written and that it would have weekly updates
>Chapter 4 was released four weeks ago
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>>86043436
>Asmorigan is tied with Vader for lead
What the fuck?
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>>86053090
Your meme is shit, anon.
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>>86049085

Kanan was originally promoted as a limited, then became an ongoing, then ended after only 12 issues.
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>>86053068
>Dagobah doesn't have timeflow
source?
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>>86052688
I'd kind of like something from a clone's perspective set right after RotS, what that whole transition from Republic to Empire was like for them.
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>>86053186
>remember that I had a story that I have the last chapter of sitting on my hard drive
>I haven't updated said story in years
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>>86053090
>so Filoni was LYING
>its a plot twist!
>no its just lying
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>>86053221
You didn't vote for this sexy beast?
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>>86053443
>that drool
brb gonna fap
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>>86052680
he can help accidentally most times
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>>86043436

>29% Azmorigan
>11% Gall Trayvis
>only 4% each for Kallus and Tarkin

I could understand this nonsense if Kallus's muttonchops were also a separate contestant splitting the vote, but what the fuck is this shit?
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>>86052182
>I haven't read Heir to The Jedi yet or any of the YA novels, but the comics is what I'm basing my claims on
That's your problem, they go a bit more into Luke's training than the comics, especially Weapon of a Jedi
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>>86052680
>"Senator Organa, meesa pallo!"
>"Oh, hello Senator Binks. Uh, Senator Mothma and I were just going to, uh, discuss some business."
>"Oh, muy muy bombad senate business, meesa help!"
>"Er, no, that's quite alright, this is a private meeting. Just me and her."
>"What? Issa private meeting? But... oh... OOOOH meesa gotcha! You and Senator Mothma gonna have a smoochy-smoochy!"
>"Er... no, Jar Jar, it's not like that, it really is just business."
>"Oh, meesa wise to dat! Winky winky! Just business-like, noooo funny play! Meesa know nuttin about no smoochy hanky panky! Mesa lips are sealed!"

>"And we're leading off today's edition of Holonet Morning News with shocking allegations of an affair between Bail Organa and Mon Mothma!"
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>>86053663
10/10
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>>86053663
I can't express how perfect this post is
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What's your favorite portrayal of the jedi?
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>>86053867
Everything. The Prequels, The Clone Wars, Rebels, and the OT. I like everything but The Force Awakens.
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>>86052898
Wait, is that really Dave Filoni?
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>>86053867
All of them. Dead.
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>>86053867
PT Jedi. They're a force to be reckoned with, until Papa Sheev rears his head around
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>>86052632
>>86052680
>>86053663

I'm pretty sure George's idea was that once the Empire came to power, Jar Jar was one of Palpatine's strongest supporters.

I could actually see this pretty much permanently driving a wedge between him and Bail Organa and keeping him shut out of the Rebellion.
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>>86053867
I liked the Jedi Lord concept a lot.
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>>86053867
I've never much liked the idea of the Jedi.
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>>86053345
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/49mjps/pablo_hidalgo_confirms_luke_trained_on_dagobah/
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>>86053867
The lone nomad sort of version that everybody assumed they were before the prequels were a thing
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>R2-D2 will be a remote controlled robot from now on
I don't know why this popped into my head, but I'm sad now
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>>86054014
>being intentionally vague and giving non-answers

So they wanted to leave the door open so that they could make it however long they wanted.
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>>86054014
>confirming time dilation existing in some form in SW

oh boy
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>>86054059
>possibility
>hinted

These are not confirmations. "Yes"s and "no"s are confirmations.
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>>86054014
>Spent half a week MIA
I bet Rex almost had a heart attack
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>>86053867
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. Served as a pretty good traditional contrast of Master-Apprentice relationships to how Obi-Wan and Anakin would be ten years later. Though Obi-Wan and Anakin's tenure was memorable (at least for me) due to how unique it was in its almost constant contentiousness evocative of rivalries between older and younger siblings. Had hoped to see more of that before Anakin's becoming a Knight in TCW like what was done in Genndy Wars, but oh well.
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>>86054044
wasn't he entirely CGI in ROTS?
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>>86054059
You should watch some Recons.
https://youtu.be/cto9_9qNHZ0?t=3m55s

>>86054044
But anon, it's the [current year]. It's not fashionable to place midgets inside trash cans, unless Anthony Daniels puts them there first.

I miss Kenny Baker too.
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>>86054014
>>86053068
So Lucas forgot time existed when he wrote the story.
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>>86054168
He was CGI and remote controlled. They're putting another actor named Jimmy Vee inside Artoo for Episode 8.
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>>86053068
On-screen evidence trumps all though
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>>86054266
why though? what can having a midget inside bring to the table that a remote control can't?
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>>86052432

Or Sigourney Weaver.

>>86052205

Yeah, it doesn't work well because either she shows up and gets killed in Rebels, or they make her into one of Luke's students that bites it when Kylo goes emo. If it weren't for the fact that the First Order relocated to the Unknown Regions, you could maybe have stashed her there along with Thrawn and Baron Fel in the Empire of the Hand, but I don't think the story group wants two empires hiding out in the Unknown regions.
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>>86054324
Absolutely nothing at this point. I think they're just doing out of tradition.
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>>86054324
Remotes can't pander to OT purist.
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>>86053867
Luke in ROTJ. KOTOR. Maybe Luke's Order?
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>>86054324
It adds character or something, I dunno

Don't question the purity of ~practical effects~, anon

If it's not like the "good old days" then it's no good at all
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>>86054324
A couple of things, actually.
Any kind of delay between the remote and the action of the robot will make things harder for everyone involved. Someone actually working the puppet right there can react better to their costars and be more present. Having a more analog puppet can mean that electrical issues are less of a problem and thus save time on construction. And over a completely CGI thing, having something actually there for actors to see and act towards is always better than nothing.

All pretty much the same reasons to have the actors actually be there when they play completely CGI characters.
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>>86054268
Source?

Because even in film, it took a while to get to Bespin from Hoth.
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>>86054807
>even in film, it took a while to get to Bespin from Hoth.

The whole problem is that no one ever mentions any kind of time frame for anything happening. This is a key tactic to employ when you don't know if you'll want to shove other things in there later, like ADR or more space ship fly bys. So we end up with a period of the movie that may take days, weeks, months, years, and we're never actually shown or even told anything about it. If we take that sequence as taking as long as other queues for the passage of time suggest: Luke arrives on Dagobah, that night he finds Yoda, the next day he goes back packing and kill himself in a cave, then a few hours later he learns to stack some rocks and then he gets the hell out of that stink hole to get some crisp delicious Colt 45.

Now this time line makes some sense for Han and Leia (who themselves are on there way to get some Colt 45) since space travel in Star Wars is generally shown to be more akin to jumping into your car and going to the market, rather than hitching a ride on a cargo barge in England and waiting until you get to Sri Lanka. But it doesn't work for training Luke since Jedi training is supposed to take years and years, and Luke needs to be ready to almost stand up to Vader in the next forty five minutes.

This is why they need to make up things like "time doesn't pass there" and such to make the things fit for canon obsessed ninnies that can't accept that it's a fucking movie and doesn't have to make sense. It could have been solved by Han mentioning any kind of time frame for how long it would take to get to Bespin, but Lucas didn't feel this was an addition that was needed in the movie when he did the special editions.

I guess Lando is allowed to talk without moving his mouth but Harrison Ford isn't that good of an actor.
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>>86054676
We're not talking about CGI, we're still talking about having a physical R2 for most scenes. Just whether or not we're going to put someone inside it.

I agree with your puppet reasons though, while shooting films time is of the essence and minimizing mechanical failure is always a benefit.

But honestly they don't really do much at this point anymore. Kenny Baker helped write the book on droid mannerisms, but that is truly something that can be manipulated remotely. It's not like they have the articulation of a protocol droid like C-3P0, they waddle left and right in place and look up and down.

Lucasfilm can do both, and I wouldn't be surprised it the prop droid builders have built an R2 with that functionality already.
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>>86031202
Why was this arc such shit?
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>>86055203
Why you mad Quarren baby? Because you lost your civil war?
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>>86055270
How does Riff Tamson's sandpapery dick feel like inside you?
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>>86055270
No, I'm mad because it was boring as shit
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>>86055203
It wasn't bad, but the novelty of "oohh, special underwater arc" admittedly wore off halfway through the second episode
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>>86053867
The prequels, particularly TPM. They were basically the one size fits all problem solvers of the galaxy, they could function as warriors, diplomats, guardians, military leaders, you name it.
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This is fucking embarrassing.

https://youtu.be/rYgE-cvY57I
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>>86055159
>We're not talking about CGI,
I know I figured I'd throw that in since someone a post back in that chain mentioned CGI R2-D2 (which, coincidentally I despised because of how glaringly obvious it was when they made the droids CGI)

But the key reason to have a person in the thing, rather than making it a remote controlled puppet is the disconnect between the remote controller and the puppet on the stage. There's a learning curve to knowing where and how you can move around during the action, and the remote controller will simply not have the spatial awareness that the other actors actually on the set would have.
Having someone actually in the puppet gets rid of these problems (but also costs more), but has it's own, for things like breaks and such, I'm sure there are rules for characters in full body suits, which the puppet would probably fit into. Not to mention work getting the actor into and out of the puppet/costume.

The correct answer is to have all three for the things that they are best at.
When you puppet is interacting with people and actually needs to act, you should have your manned puppet there, being able to act and react to the happenings on set and being able to act accordingly and in character to any kind of happy accident that might happen.
If you're in a scene where your droid just needs to move around a bit, well give your actor a break and break out the remote controlled puppet, your thing doesn't need to act there, but having something there will give your other actors more to play off of.
Have a real big action scene and your droid is getting tossed around and shit? Boot up your CGI puppet and go to goddamn town, after all you don't have to rebuild that fucker if it catches on fire and smashes it's head in.
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>>86055424
Hi, welcome to the Star Wars fandom, clearly you've never seen it before otherwise you'd know that "embarrassing" is just our default state.
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>>86030576
>opening crawl is the state of alabama
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>>86055424
>>86055487
Why is this guy so obsessed to be known as the original Darth Vader? He's a nothing

>captcha is 404
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>>86055295
I loved him, he was a blast

>>86055308
I liked it, but honestly I think it would have been better has a two parter. Stretching over 3 episodes seemed unnecessary, and I think the story suffered a bit for it. Watching the behind the scenes you get the sense that they enjoyed playing with all their new tech and reaching heights for animation. I'm not saying that's the reason why it was 3 episodes, obviously it was written that way before they animated it. But the story could have used some trimming.

And I want to play a Battlefront game where I fight in the Battle of Mon Cala and Cato Neimoidia. among other places.

>>86055464
>The correct answer is to have all three for the things that they are best at.
I agree, that's why they have multiple types of props for that purpose alone. There is never only one.
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>>86055637
His twitter is pretty sad. All he does is talk about being Darth Vader, shilling his convention locations and Battlefront, and posting pictures of stuff he's signed (signs them as "Darth Vader", not his name).

You don't see James Earl Jones doing this shit. Sebastian Shaw's ghost is probably laughing because he'll be more remembered as Vader for a two minute role.
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>>86055752
>he'll be more remembered as Vader for a two minute role.
Seeing as half of his screen time is now given to Hayden, I doubt it.
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Holy shit, Hamill despised The Force Awakens didn't he?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze4jXFFB05g
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>>86055803
You didn't see his rant at Star Wars Celebration?
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>>86055752
>Sebastian Shaw's ghost
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>>86055756
I'm going to get so much mileage out of this image, I'm glad I requested it.

Thank you to the anon who made it, along with the anon who made this alt!
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>>86055822
>You didn't see his rant at Star Wars Celebration?
Different anon. I didn't even hear about it until just now, though I've been a bit out of the loop.
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>>86046833

>loss
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>>86055883
It happened right before the videogames panel. They had to cut him off since he had delayed it for like several minutes.
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>>86055891
You rang?
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>>86055863
<3
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>>86051749
>>86051788
>>86051792

>she actually accomplished her goal
>went on a killing spree
>had to be beaten by plot bullshit

Switch Rebels villains with her, please
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>>86055803
I don't know about despising the movie itself, but it sounds like he's not among the people falling over themselves to praise it as the second coming. He also hasn't been shy about discussing his disappointment with having only two brief scenes and no dialogue. He plays all of this off mostly as humor so that's probably why he doesn't have Kennedy breathing down his neck.
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>>86055906
Think you could give us a rundown, Anon?
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>>86055803
Yes, anon, everyone agrees with you that The Force Awakens is even worse than Birdemic and that you are truly an arbiter of taste.
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>>86055977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWSsjhHA0IM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S2zsCaOOmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwxYk896q_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghHgrjT_Hfk
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>>86055967
Well can you imagine being told you need to lose a shitload of weight and all for two quick scenes, one of which you're covered in a cloak and may as well be played by a stand-in?

At least his role is meatier in 8.
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>>86056061
>An actor needs to do some work for his millions of dollars
boo fucking hoo
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>>86056061
I don't know anon, being told to lose weight and still doing it is still a pretty good thing on it's own, despite the negative connotation with simply being told that.
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>>86056046
Man, it's been awhile since I actually heard modern Mark Hamill speak normally.

Thanks for the links, anon.
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>>86056103
This is true, but he's been vocally annoyed about it.
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>>86056147
and should this do anything other than make my like Hamil less?
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>>86056101
Get to bed, you have school tomorrow.
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>>86056156
It shouldn't do anything, I'm just saying what he's said. What are you so angry about?
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>>86056156
And somehow the world is still turning, even if Mark Hamill disagrees with you. Perish the thought.
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>>86056159
Sorry, lets continue to talk about how terrible a life Mark Hamil has now that he's getting paid to not be a fat fuck.

I wish those mean nasty movie companies would just leave him alone and let him eat his chocolate pies in peace and still pay him millions of fucking dollars.
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>>86056027
Huh? I loved The Force Awakens. I was just surprised Hamill hates it.
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>>86056204
Okay man, continue being mad over nothing.
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>>86056204
Stop shitposting and stay on topic.
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>>86056204
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>>86056240
The topic that Hamill is mad that he got paid more than a million dollars for what amounts to a cameo, and didn't even have to say or do anything? With the promise that he will get a substanial pay raise for the next movie(s)?
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>>86056204
One assumes, at his age with the work he's done up until now, Mark Hamill could've quite easily told them to stuff it if he really wanted and spent his waning years entirely sitting in a rocking chair.

But, like a lot of actors, he find some actual enjoyment in doing the work. Not all the time, of course. There's also the fact the reprising the role that catapulted him into the public consciousness was probably attractive too. This situation, however, reeks of him having similar feelings to Ian McKellen in the Hobbit. You don't get all jazzed up, back in shape and in the mind set, to stand around looking mildly surprised for five minutes. You do all that to get out and DO something. Act, move around, have a conversation. Anything at all, really.

Rather than being annoyed by having to work, he probably wanted to work more.
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>>86056278
And he'll get to work more, and make millions more for it, but don't fucking bitch and moan when you did nothing and got paid more money than some people will ever have.
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>>86056274
Good job, you've passed the first test. Now lets see if you can past the second.
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>>86056046
I love the guy, and I definitely get what he's saying, but watching cherry picked clips of him talking like this he starts coming off a bit like David Prowse.
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>>86056227
Well, they kinda assassinated his character.
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>>86056291
Seriously kid, you have school tomorrow. You better get to bed before your mom yells at you.
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>>86056291
>Your not allowed to have opinions if you're richer then me.
Something else you want to discuss anon, or would you like to stop projecting?
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>>86056303
>>86056274
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>>86056339
These people signed a contract for millions of dollars and are crying because a couple extra hours of their time was taken up. Well you got paid for it so suck it up and do your fucking job.
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>>86056307
>he starts coming off a bit like David Prowse.
Eh... maybe a little. I think trotting Hamill out constantly for TFA promotion and Q&As and such probably isn't such a great idea because there's basically nothing for him to talk about.
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>>86056384
I get the distinct feeling you've never had a job before.
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>>86056387
and yet he keeps going, because he wants to be paid.
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>>86056384
Well, it could have been worse, they could have hired (You).
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>>86056227
>Luke ends up as a pathetic failure hiding away on some rock after getting all his Jedi killed
>the new girl in the movie easily masters the force and beats down Darth Vader 2
>some random pilot destroys the new super duper Death Star without even using the force or having a plan
>btw you're not on the poster and only in the movie for 5 seconds

why wouldn't he hate it?
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>>86056401
I have, and it's awful, but I do it and I'm glad to have it because many other people aren't that lucky.
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>>86056430
Because he got a million dollars for standing around for an hour.
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>>86056432
Do you really think acting is easy?
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Okay, I think we've had our fun with the Little Edgelord That Could, let's talk about something else.

What would things be like if Obi-Wan had accepted Dooku's offer and ended up becoming his dark apprentice?
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>>86056461
>acting
sorry anon, you misspelled standing. I know it's hard, but don't worry, you'll get it.
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>>86056451
Did you miss the part where he said money and quality don't necessarily correlate?
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>>86056469
It would have had a definite impact on Sheev's plan to make Anakin his dark apprentice.
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>>86056432
The real luck is that I don't have to work with (You). But apparently I do share a board, so the Force has betrayed me, but I am thankful for small favors. At least I have Mark.
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>>86056469
Anakin would've definitely succumbed to the dark side more earlier since he didn't have Obi-Wan's positive influence with him. Maybe he tries to get back to Satine but she shuns him considering that now he's fighting for the CIS and doing atrocities of his own.
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>>86055803
I love Mark so much.
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>>86056469
>pointing out that someone is acting like a twat is "edgelord" now

these fucking generals are always trash echo chambers where the only opinion you can ever stomach to hear is your own. well go back to sucking the dicks of hacks like lucas and filoni and hamill who can't even fucking act any more if his work for DC is anything to go by, and that shit is leauges better than anything he's done in fucking star wars.
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>>86056484
>be passionate about doing a movie you haven't done in a while
>told to get in shape
>told to train
>pal around with old co-workers
>youre scene comes up
>your role is literally a cameo

You know, some people like their job and don't care for a paycheck.
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>>86056469
I can't imagine how that would play out.

>Join me, Obi-Wan, and together we will destroy the Sith!
>Sure okay.
>Whoa, really?
>Yeah, sure, totally, let's do it, man.
>Heh, awesome, let's go get you a red Kyber crystal, dude.
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>>86056469
This is where you really learn that a general needs to die, when you start to think hypotheticals are something interesting.
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>>86056554
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>>86056554
0/10
Shameful display.
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>>86056554
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>>86056554
>>86056585
Your mom's yelling now, get to bed.
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>>86056554
>samefagging this bad
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>>86056554
I am also laughing at you.
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>>86056564
You really think Hamill went in not knowing what he'd be doing for the movie? Actors get their scripts long before they come to the set to see if they even want to take it.
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>>86056554
You've proved your point. I can see now that calling you an edgelord was innacurate.
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>>86056657
Do you not remember how paranoidly secretive they were with the scripts for this one?
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>>86056657
>confirmed for not even watching the interview.
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>>86056666
Checked, also read that in his voice.
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>>86056687
yeah, Hamill's never been able to keep a secret before. It's not like he was one of the only people that knew Vader was Luke's father for ESB or anything.
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>>86056554
Reading your post actually made me feel sick.

Sorry, am I contributing to the echochamber boogeyman, /tv/?
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>>86056227

Mark has only ever said good things about the prequels.

http://www.ew.com/article/2013/05/05/star-wars-mark-hamill-return-jedi

>Don’t complain to Mark Hamill about the Special Editions or the prequels. Hamill noted that his son Nathan helped keep him abreast of new developments in Star Wars fandom. “He’ll say, ‘Oh my god, Dad, Greedo shoots first now!’ I’ll say, ‘Wait, wait, wait. Let’s put this in perspective: Who cares?’” That led Hamill into a full-throated defense of the Star Wars prequels: “Jar Jar was supposed to be irritating! He’s irritating to the other characters in the movie!” He concluded by arguing that Lucas had earned the right to make Star Wars films in the manner he wanted. “Those aren’t sorta the movies he wanted them to be, they’re exactly the movies they wanted to make,” said Hamill. “And I’m not gonna criticize them at all.”

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/13-Fascinating-Things-We-Learned-About-Mark-Hamill-During-His-AMA-41261.html

>He’s apparently not the type to "goes back and rewatches old stuff", but he will defend what Lucas did with the prequels. Here’s the exact quote that most people would consider a little over the top: " I thought the prequels are amazing by the way. If we were a garage band, they were a philharmonic."

Maybe Mark just has a huge hard-on for George, but given the key style differences between Lucas's approach and Abrams' approach, I'm honestly not surprised to see Mark turn against TFA.

I'd be far more surprised if Harrison turned against it.
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>>86056706
>literally told minutes before the scene was filmed
>prior knowledge was Obi-Wan killed his father
>even in the script

You're not even trying anymore.
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>>86056706
When do you think he learned that information?

Nobody tell him
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>>86056666
No, I'm a realist and you'd a cock gobbler that can't stand any kind of criticism to your holy idols. Hey, here's something, Mark Hamill was never a good actor, and he's only gotten worse. George Lucas would have been fine shitting CGI over EVERYTHING in Star Wars because he was convinced that people wanted what Jabba the Hutt looked like in ANH. Carrie Fischer is still a fucking drunk crack addicted whore who still can't fucking act. All of Star Wars is a plot hole ridden mess that needs made up shit for fans to accept a fantasy movie as making sense when it is literally full of FUCKING MAGIC.
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>>86056727
>>86056761
Damn, anon.

You fucked up.
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>>86056793
Oh yeah well fuck you.
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>>86056740
>I'd be far more surprised if Harrison turned against it.
I'm willing to bet, in his heart of heart, Harrison didn't even want to do it. This is the guy that didn't want to come back for RotJ, and then when he did, wanted his character to be killed.

>>86056756
>>86056761
To be fair, how long did he keep that information? It was Darth Vader's actor that let it slip in an interview, not Hamill.
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>>86056793
>Mark Hamill was never a good actor
Wew lad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVy9DFwT-4o
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>>86056793
Why are you even here? I don't go to your Bane, Feet and Cunny threads trying to convince you that your favorite passtimes are shit.
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>>86056816
Literally the only good actor in all of Star Wars.
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>>86056844

TFA gave him much better dialogue to say AND killed Han Solo, giving him an excuse to get out of Star Wars forever with nobody asking him about coming back.

Harrison's never going to say a bad thing about it.
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>>86056740
If his mindset towards Star Wars is more akin to GL's it's understandable why he's not that crazy about TFA. I'm a prequel lover who felt dissapointed by the overdone nostalgia-wank with a lack of freshness overall.

Hamill needs to do a jedi academy series with Filoni, Dave is the only one who "gets" star wars now george is gone, he and Hamill would create a great show to fill the gap between ep 6-7.
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>>86056864
You are objectively wrong.
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>>86056844
Irvin Kershner kept the real identity of the scene away from Mark Hamill until they filmed it. Kershner pulled him aside, and explain to him in private the words he would be saying would differ from the script he has.
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>>86056887
Fuck Animaniacs.
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>>86056905
I'm talking about after the fact, anon. Hamill didn't say anything to anyone at all about it, it was David Prowse in an interview that did that.
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>>86056469
I think I read a rather lewd fanfic of the idea. Before the slash fans get all hot and bothered, it was a pretty straight affair. Obi-Wan ended up with Asajj, I think (I think he also joined Dooku later than the scene where the offer was first extended in AOTC). The Confederacy beat the Republic and Sidious's plans were upended. Anakin got shot down and died, the twins were still raised separately. Then the Confederacy had to fight the Vong.
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The prequels had some good ideas, and an interesting world, but it would have benefited more from the clone wars and the time between 3 and 4 being around twice as long.
The movies themselves are just not very well made, they're laboriously paced, with only small flickers of actual good happening in them. Many sequences could have been cut and reshot to make the movie much shorter, or allowed to more time for more important things. Some parts of the movie seem to exist solely to give the visual and special effects departments something to do. The tradition of bad dialog continues from the original trilogy, and the whole movie gets bogged down in talking at the audience about things that are simply not important to the plot of the movie.

The PT could have been great if other people had directed it, but unfortunately everyone told George to do it, and Geroge has never been a good director, he's always been a man that wants to explain everything about his works all at once. He is not a man who goes in for subtly.
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>>86051757
Dave and Pablo live for these moments.
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>>86057188
>>86051630
Who's the girl?
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>>86057204
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>>86057204
The VA for the 501st's bicycle.
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Anyone have download links for Freemakers episodes 6 to the end? They don't seem to be in the pastebin.
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>>86053392
So like BF2?
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>>86057226
DELET
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>>86057135
It would have benefited greatly from having input from other people and not putting all the responsibility and pressure on Lucas. I don't think anyone told Lucas to do it himself, he just couldn't find anyone he could trust to handle the project so he took on everything. I imagine that was after Empire and Jedi not turning out the way he wanted, or even New Hope because there were other people there to tell him something was stupid and wouldn't work.

Episode 1 should have started during the Clone Wars with a late teen-early twenties Anakin commanding a squadron of starfighters coming to the aid of a ship transporting Obi-Wan. That way you skip the child actor, you have another unorthodox trained Jedi due to his age and pottery because Obi-Wan called Anakin the best starpilot in the galaxy.
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>>86057318
That shit was chilling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lgG2ENW5Ac
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>>86057366
Temuera killed it. Here's hoping he comes back for more Clone work
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>>86057336
I don't think it needs to be completely rewritten, but I think TPM's big problem, like you said, is that it doesn't start off very interestingly. ANH starts with the war in the stars (or Star War) already happening. At the very least cutting out the landing at the trade federation ship should have been cut and instead we get that in the opening crawl that two Jedi masters have slipped down onto the planet as it's being invaded to protect the queen and attempt to negotiate. Other things can be cut, or shifted around, but for the most part the story for TPM is pretty solid, it's just all the extra addons that weigh it down.

When you're starting a new franchise (and lets not beat around the bush, for a lot of people the PT were the entry point to Star Wars, so they NEEDED to treat it like it was new) you want to start with putting your audience in with the action. colder opens, like Empire or Jedi are for a more established story. Strangely in the prequels this is reversed, the first two movies have much colder opens, and the third one puts us right into the middle of a space battle.
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>>86057546
I'm praying he comes back as a Clone Drill Sergent/Instructor for Stormtrooper cadets. Would be best if he's screaming like Jake the Muss and beating the ever loving shit out of Stormtrooper recruits.
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>>86057135
I think they were made just fine, honestly. The dialogue was worse on average than in the OT, true, but I don't feel like it's all necessarily as bad as people like to think. I suppose that's mostly a problem of certain lines being bad enough to overshadow everything else, though, but in general I think it worked well enough in combination with everything else.

The PT is carried mostly by its visual and audio aspects. The designs, the various different worlds, ships, outfits, etc, the various different action sequences, Williams' soundtrack, these things told the story as much as any of the actual dialogue did. I'm pretty sure I've seen this argument written somewhere else but it really does illustrate the most important factor of these movies. Those things are why I enjoy the PT as much as I do.

Obviously not everyone cares for those things as much, for some because they don't see the visuals as lining up well with the way things were presented in the OT (I think they kind of do for certain plot reasons but I can elaborate on that in a separate post if necessary), for others, I don't know, some other reason. But the PT is more about visuals and sound than anything else.
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>>86057318
Sort of, yeah. Although it would be a bit different given what we know about how clones were treated in the Empire now. It'd involve more of seeing the immediate after-effects of the Clone Wars and what things were like in the Imperial military/navy as the clones were being phased out. See what kind of shit they went through as they were gradually replaced without anywhere else to go or anything else to really do.
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>>86057675
>But the PT is more about visuals and sound than anything else.
This lines up very well with what Lucas felt people liked about Star Wars, and why he and Kurtz parted ways. Lucas felt people went to the movies for the special effects, the wow of the visuals on screen. In RoTJ Lucas felt people needed another big set piece, so he wanted to do a second Death Star since it worked out for the first one. Kurtz felt it was the story that drew people in and made them want to follow the characters.

People say that Lucas made Star Wars, and that he's the only one that "gets" it, but I don't think that's true, Kurtz had just as much a hand in making the original trilogy, and the basis of Star Wars, what it was. If he could have been convinced to get on board for the prequels I think we could have had not just some (mostly) good looking movies, but three movies that felt much more tied to each other than what we ended up with.
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>>86057631
It doesn't necessarily need to be completely changed, but Anakin needed to be an adult. By the time Attack of the Clones rolls around Anakin is a different person, it's like you switched main characters and hoped no one would notice. Having him already grown allows you to keep character motivations and not expect your audience to adjust. If no one called Anakin by his name, I'm sure a lot of people would ask "Who is Obi-Wan standing with in the elevator?".
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>>86057805
>Lucas felt people went to the movies for the special effects, the wow of the visuals on screen.
Lucas stated the opposite dozens of times throughout the past 30 years.

>In RoTJ Lucas felt people needed another big set piece, so he wanted to do a second Death Star since it worked out for the first one.
No, the budget wouldn't allow them to do what he originality wanted to do.
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>>86056881
I feel like everyone working at Lucasfilm gets Star Wars, but Gareth Edwards seems to be the first of the new film makers who gets it too. Abrams is just a casual OT fan.
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>>86057805
>>86057675
I've always been of the mind that if any one part of a movie is too noticeable it means that the others are too weak. The whole thing should be part of a whole, indistinguishable and inseparable.
If I can notice the music, or the special effects over anything else, then something has gone wrong.
If instead I leave the movie not even realizing that there was music or visual effects, then the movie has done it's job of immersing me in its world.
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>>86057880
That's not what Gary Kurtz has said.
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>>86058032
But the prequels prove otherwise. While they are visual storytelling, they are very much character driven movies with emphasis on their story.
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>>86057805

Lucas was always a very visually-focused as a director, but let's not just take Kurtz's bitter post-breakup ranting and run with it to act like Lucas only cared about visual effects.

I think you need to take a look at the Ferdy article.

http://www.ferdyonfilms.com/2015/star-wars-episode-one-the-phantom-menace-1999-episode-two-attack-of-the-clones-2002-episode-three-revenge-of-the-sith-2005/26568/
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>>86056876
This. The guy could have absolutely hated everything about the movie but it gave him a way out. As it is I doubt he hated it, but it's probably not something he's going to ever bother watching again. Like if they sent him a blu-ray of it it'd probably sit in a closet somewhere with the shrinkwrap still intact.
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>>86057805
I honestly don't mind what we got all that much, but I do agree that Kurtz being involved would've helped. You can see a lot of the visual elements I was talking about in the OT as well, and that coupled with him being around to filter George's ideas was what made those movies so great. The PT is a step up with the visual storytelling aspect IMO, I think it does that extremely well, and the sane goes for sound effects/soundtrack too, but someone being around to help with the story's actual execution could've truly made some god-tier movies.
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>>86058149
that is one massive wall of tiny ass text, anon, it's late and I don't have the time to read all that, so I'll have to get to it later. Is this a interview or something? Because it kind of just looks like a movie review.

also "post break up ranting" I really have no idea what you're talking about there, the stuff I'm reading he talks about parting ways amiably, and he doesn't bad mouth Lucas, or any of the movies, at all. He just talks about previous ideas that were kicked around while they were working on Empire and Jedi, and how they pitched and made Star Wars for Fox.
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>>86058183
You could see some enthusiasm for the role in TFA but every now and then you still get that sort of "I can't believe I'm saying this crap" feeling from him.
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>>86058149
It's funny how similar TFA and TPM fared.Both were the first new Star Wars films in a long time and rode in on a wave of massive anticipation.

Of course the critics were far kinder to TFA in the ride up to release but both saw a surge and praise when they first came out. TFA was heralded as the "triumphant return of true Star Wars" while TPM was heralded as pushing the visual effects envelope. But then the love affair ended all too soon. TPM was ridiculed as all flash with too little substance, TFA as a return to Star Wars because it straight up duplicated the original trilogy.

I always thought that the Prequels sadly came at a time when Lucas was already under fire due to what he'd done with the first Special Editions. I'm sure some people do say he's the only one who gets Star Wars - he certainly is a man of grand vision in terms of how he wants his worlds to look - but this lead to the counter-claims that he had gone mad, didn't really "get" Star Wars, and of course the ever popular raping of childhoods.
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>>86058268
You could see both him and Fisher struggling to take their lines seriously in a few places. It's not as bad as in ROTJ though, where Ford very obviously didn't want to be there anymore and Fisher seemed like she'd already checked out.
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>>86058268
My favorite is his reaction to the overly-dramatic, "This was the Death Star. And THIS is Starkiller Base." The way he delivered his line was either the finest acting he's ever done or all-too-real annoyance at doing the exact same threat only bigger.
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>>86058295
Why in the name of all that is holy did they have them openly talk about Snoke seducing their son? Nobody ever called the Emperor just Palpatine (and the name Sheev didn't exist yet). I think the problem is that Supreme Leader is just too awkward a title. It doesn't really roll off the tongue and doesn't quite sound right. You could make it, "The Supreme Leader of the First Order seduced our son," but that's just a mouthful.

Seriously though, Snoke is just the hardest name to take seriously.
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>Finally started Aftermath: Life Debt
>I accept that Cuck Wendig is a mostly PC writer and is on the lower end of the spectrum in terms of writing
>I still like to read Aftermath books cause the interludes are pretty interesting
>Interlude: The Annihilator
>Zhe, Zhim, Zherself

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT I CANT EVEN CONTINUE WITH THIS SHIT
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>>86058268
I think whenever the dialogue starts getting too technical or too into lore, he starts losing that enthusiasm. Basically any line that reminds him he's in a sci-fi fantasy.

For example, here's a line where he does just fine:
>Listen 'Big Deal.' You've got another problem. Women always figure out the truth. Always.

Then throw in the word galaxy and he kind of stops trying.
>People are counting on us! The galaxy is counting on us!
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>>86058275
>but this lead to the counter-claims that he had gone mad, didn't really "get" Star Wars, and of course the ever popular raping of childhoods.
I think that's more to do with at what point does a work become property of the mass, when it becomes part of a culture, and should a creator or owner respect that, or do whatever they want.
To take it to an extreme analogy, if I bought the Mona Lisa, should I be allowed to paint a mustache on it?

Some of Lucas' choices are baffeling to me the most of which being how long he spent on making it so Han didn't shoot first. He wanted Han to be liked, and for people to not think he was a bad person, but people already liked him, people had liked him for years before the change, and I just don't understand why it stuck with him like that.
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>>86052865
That's cute anon. But how old are you?
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>>86058383
Get ready for more, the woman writing the Ahsoka book is much the same way.
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>>86058358
It's even weirder that the movie itself recognizes this, a deleted scene has Han making fun of the name when a bunch of stormtroopers confront them on Takodana. So Abrams and Kasdan were aware Snoke was a dumb and laughable name but stuck with it anyway.
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>>86053663
Perfect.

Now...Bail Organa/Mon Mothma r34 when?
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>>86058449
Oh yeah, saw it. I kind of wish they'd kept it in. Even more important would have been Maz showing she has Force powers, but oh well to that too.

I don't know if they thought he was making fun of the name, just being irreverent in the face of armed troopers. The reason I say that is I think it was BECAUSE it was mocking the name is why they didn't include it. You don't try to create a new big bad threat to the galaxy and then undermine him, but they did that to Kylo Ren and the First Order already look like a bunch of chucklefucks who so want to copy the Empire they're probably actually PROUD their first base was destroyed because this makes them just one step closer to the Empire. Actively mocking their Supreme Leader, or at last seeming to, ha, definitely not the right message.

At least Lucas understood that you don't compromise your threatening villains, or at least Vader specifically (he was going to make Dooku beg for his life, after all). I'm glad that's one of the lessons the Story Group is taking to heart with Vader.
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>>86058519
Yeah, regardless of the reason it happened, having a character make fun of the name of your big scary villain doesn't help.
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>>86058434
fuck me, it's like all the stuff i'm interested in: post-ROTJ, Ahsokafu, is all being given to Tumblr writers anonymous. Meanwhile all the pre-ROTJ books have been mostly golden.

The only novels I need to read now is to finish Life Debt up, Heir to the Jedi, and Twilight Company.
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>>86056554
Shotanon? Is that you?
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>>86058414
>People are counting on us! The galaxy is counting on us!
I don't know, it sounded like the right amount of completely exasperated with Finn's nonsense to me. I suppose I'd have to watch it again with an hear towards that. Some of the banter in the early parts of the OT (mostly ANH and parts of ESB) sounded stilted to me then. A little too much of a rehearsed "I say witty line, stop, then you say witty line, stop, repeat."
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>>86058415
>To take it to an extreme analogy, if I bought the Mona Lisa, should I be allowed to paint a mustache on it?
I think the better analogy would be "what if Da Vinci came back to life, looked at the Mona Lisa again, and said 'no no, this won't do at all.' Then proceeded to add a mustache."

For better or worse, we place a particular recognition on a creator's ownership of the media they create. Obviously, given how the Star Wars thing worked out, this is not absolutely true, but it shows our recognition of a right to ownership of a media is basically predicated upon the creator continuing to please us.
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>>86055756
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