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Mastery of the Dark Side Edition


>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Out This Week:
Rebels Season 2 Blu-Ray/DVD
LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures - Episode 13
Han Solo #3

>Star Wars Rebels Season 3 Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmXp802sFgQ

>Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frdj1zb9sMY

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
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>>85961900
Are there any sites I can read online? Or is DL the only valid option?
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>>85961900

104 days until Rogue One!
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>>85961953
Never mind, they are Mega and not 0-man seeders.
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hello boyos
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>>85961953

Not that I'm aware of. Unless you want to buy them digitally from like Amazon or Barnes & Noble.
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I want to sexually abuse Luke
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Just finished the "Battlefront: Twilight Company" book. Average overall, but damn, that Vader vs. rebels scene was chilling.

If only they would do something similar in Rogue One.

>The stormtroopers halted their advance long enough for Darth Vader to claim the vanguard, taking long, unhurried strides like an Imperial walker disdainful of the stings of rebel snowspeeders. He made no effort to find shelter. He held no weapon Namir could see.

>In the back of his brain, a voice told Namir that Vader wasn’t a threat—he was a bogeyman, built and dressed to intimidate instead of fight—yet the front of his mind screamed not to let the armored figure close in.

>“Concentrate fire!” Beak yelled. His voice was forceful but shaking, as if he was trying to convince himself. “Burn the shield out!”

>Vader didn’t hesitate or fall. Instead, something appeared in his hand between the pulses of crimson light and suddenly he was holding a weapon, a blade of coherent energy that danced with a twist of his wrist.

>If Vader had been protected by a force field, it appeared no longer necessary: His energy blade deflected bolts impossibly swiftly, humming and buzzing and crackling as it swept aside a storm of fire.

>Then Vader leapt forward and, in a single motion, landed before Beak and bisected the Twilight soldier with a swing of his blade. For a moment, the air smelled like burning fabric and plastic and muscle.

>Namir was aiming his rifle again when he heard Roja shout an oath. A chrome cylinder just smaller than Namir’s fist arced through the darkness toward Darth Vader: a fragmentation grenade.

>Namir barely had time to hope before Vader lifted his blade and gestured to one side. Toward Namir. Like an obedient droid, the grenade adjusted its trajectory in mid-arc. The events seemed to follow the logic of a nightmare—Vader’s capabilities seemed limited only by their horrific implications.
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>>85962344
>If only they would do something similar in Rogue One.

They're not, if test screening rumors can be believed.
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>>85961983
hi boyo
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When will we get live-action Ahsoka

2018?
2020?
2025?
2500?
3000?
30000?
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>>85962856
2016
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Good morning /co/
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>>85963143
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>>85963143
>Grand Admiral Thrawn

>Not M'thraw'nuroodoopoodoo

Ruined at the outset
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>>85963150
>17 years old
So we skipped 2 years now? Now we're about 2 years before ANH so it's likely that the 'big Rebellion mission' they keep talking about is actually the theft of the Death Star plans. Also now that we know that Rebels will go on for it's intended length (7 seasons) we're almost guaranteed to see later seasons set in the OT.
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>>85963437
>17 years old

He'll do for now, r-right?
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>>85963437
>7 seasons
Geez, this is going to be a bulkier show than I anticipated
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>>85961900

>I fear nothing... all is as the force wills it!

Who else is pumped to see Donnie Yen go full IP man on the emperor's finest?
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>>85963703

I never saw Ip Man. Though I'm interested in seeing him go all Yunchang with Mengde by his side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WisE4TB36Mo
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>>85963437
>7 seasons
Where did you get that number from?
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>>85962404
Do tell. Rumour away. Love a good rumour, you know.
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>>85964325

Put it simply, Vader comes in at the end of the movie and it's dialogue stuff and no action. No idea if he kills anyone though since he doesn't exactly need to fight to do that. But yeah, he's not slaughtering Rebel scum in R1.
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>>85963703
>>I fear nothing... all is as the force wills it!
I loved that line. It's probably one of my favorite lines in all of Star Wars now.
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>>85964500
A pointless cameo, then. I'm not disappointed solely because that was my exact expectation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3o6nMNcRbk

>Imperial Assault Hovertank - LEGO Star Wars - Product Animation 75152
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>Thrawn
>beloved EU character known for his tactical genius and single-handedly bringing the Empire back from the brink of destruction to challenge the New Republic
>is about to get spanked by the Rebels in their absolute weakest form led by a crew of goofy, poorly voice acted children
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>>85964733
I can't wait to see what they do to Revan
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>>85963384
>Imperials letting you keep your alien name
>Not replace all records of your existence with your new slave name
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>>85963135
>His name is Maul now not Darth Maul
>Even still the wook is too stubborn to move the page
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>>85964733
Considering the original author is floating around, I doubt they'll just do away with him in Rebels
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>>85962344
There are similar scenes in Lords of the Sith as well. Cham and Isval legit get shell shocked hearing Vader massacre a group of Cham's soldiers.

>Vader breaths into the comlink
>"I'm coming for you".
>one of the last things they hear is someone's throat being crushed
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>>85963150
Is this going into emo-anime territory with him pushing away people that want to help because
>muh power level is too low
I hope not, I don't think I can stand an entire season with that kind of prick playing a lead role.
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>>85964799
>I doubt they'll just do away with him in Rebels

Yeah. They will.

Are you stupid?
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>>85964733
>weakest form led by a crew of goofy, poorly voice acted children
1/10
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>>85964868
Are you? Why would they kill off a character that they hyped up canonizing for so long? He's going to survive at least until after Endor
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>>85964947
>Why would they kill off a character that they hyped up canonizing for so long?

Because Filoni and Pablo are huge hacks? They've killed off old characters before.
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>>85964611
I only wish the delivery were different.

>All... is as the Force wills it.

As opposed to

>All is... as the Force wills it.

My only real worry with Chirrut is that he does a few generic bo staff techniques without much substance and that's all we get of him because no one really watches much of his wuxia.
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>>85964982
>They've killed off old characters before.
Yeah but they haven't killed off main villain characters that are on the same level of importance as Darth Vader for shits and giggles.
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>>85964677
It's not the IFT but it's close enough
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>>85964982
Give me some examples
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>>85965025
>same level of importance as Darth Vader

You EU babbies are delusional.
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>>85965112
What are you talking about? What characters have they killed off? I'm genuinely confused.
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Is the new Aftermath book as bad as the first one?
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>>85964868
>Yeah. They will.
Like how they did with Rex?
Like how they did with Hondo?
Like how they did with Maul?
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>>85964675
>A pointless cameo, then. I'm not disappointed solely because that was my exact expectation.

Well, anon. That's just the rumor. A test screening rumor no less. Even if it was a proven truth, the mere fact that it came from a test screening means it's subject to change. It's still very possible that me may actually see him ignite his lightsaber to kill people.
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>>85965025

>Thrawn on the same level as Vader

Oh, I am laughin
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>>85965157
I'm listening to it now. I think it's a step up so far, but I still struggle to enjoy any of the main cast.

It's also grading on my ears to listen to the audiobook narrator to pronounce the gender neutral pronouns that the faggot author decided to shove in
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>>85963150
>Ezra is rising in status in the rebellion
>But the Rebels outside of his little crew will never know that he and his Heterosexual Big Brother that he often locks himself in a room with for long hours are Jedi.
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>>85965025
Seeing ass Episodes 1-6 are all about about Goddamn Vader, I'd say no one is as important as Vader. Hell even Lucas, when asked about making anything after Jedi said "Star Wars is the story of Anakin and that's done now"
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>>85965260
Anything added at this late stage wouild be completly disconnected from the rest of the movie, honestly they could film a brand new scene with Vader being the ultimate awesome villain and it would actually only serve to drag the film down because it obviously wouldn't belong.

You can't just slap in awesome at the last minute and hope it fits. It would be... well. It would be as unfitting as everything in the special editions.
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>>85965319
>It's also grading on my ears to listen to the audiobook narrator to pronounce the gender neutral pronouns that the faggot author decided to shove in
Fucking christ, really?
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>>85965260
At best I can see Vader showing up at the battle to salvage the shitshow that it had become, and from there transitions into him chasing after the plans, leading us directly into Episode 4
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Enter Thrawn preview has some new footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRAOcRBDr-A
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>>85964677
Oh! It's magic stick man! The tides have turned!
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>>85965517
>destruction
>destruction
>destruction
>destruction
>destruction
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>>85965459
It's only for one interlude, but yes
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>>85964500
That blows I was hoping we'd have Vader slaughter the cast just as we get a glimmer of hope that they could make it out alive and have the hope litteray be slashed by a red light saber
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>>85965517
>flashflashflashflashflashflash
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>>85965428
>Anything added at this late stage
>You can't just slap in awesome at the last minute and hope it fits.

The testscreen rumors have been around since late spring. This shit is very old news. And reeshoots happened a couple months ago. From when those testscreen rumors happened, they had plenty of time to add Vader shit during the reeshoots. It wouldn't at all be last minute.

> It would be as unfitting as everything in the special editions.

Except everything did fit. With the exception of the 'Nooo' they added before Vader threw Sidious down the elevator shaft.

Yub-nub a shit.
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>>85965517
Is that Jedha? It would make sense given that Thrawn would need to study Jedi culture to understand Kanan and Ezra.
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>>85965589
>With the exception of the 'Nooo' they added before Vader threw Sidious down the elevator shaft.

It was "No. NO!" And it fits fine.
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>>85965484
>At best I can see Vader showing up at the battle to salvage the shitshow that it had become, and from there transitions into him chasing after the plans, leading us directly into Episode 4

That's more or less what I'm expecting. We know, at the least, that Krennic's motivations for the movie is to make sure that there's no excuse for Vader to show up under his watch. So, if he survives, we'll hopefully see Krennic rightfully scared to shit of Vader.

>>85965582
Well, given that it's just a testscreening rumor, there's still very much a possibility of an action scene with Vader.
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>>85965659
Lothal temple?
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>>85965589
>Except everything did fit.
yeah we needed that frog burping, or the terrible song, or the extra fifteen seconds of ESTABLISHING SHOT of Mos Esley, or poorly modeled Jabba and Boba Fett showing up for no reason or Han's neck snapping to let his entire head move tot he side and then reattaching itself.
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>>85965517
Okay, I have a question. In this video, and in the season trailer there's a line I can't hear well.
>I will _____ the rebels apart piece by piece. They'll be the architects of their own destruction.
What word am I missing? I sounds like "coil" but that wouldn't make any sense.
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>>85965692
pull.
he says "I will pull the rebels apart"
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>>85965538
>>85965583
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>>85965688
>Han's neck snapping to let his entire head move tot he side and then reattaching itself.

You're seriously complaining about something that you would only see when slowing down the film?
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>>85965659
>Is that Jedha?

Looks like Lessu. Which would make sense. He is going to kick Cham's ass at one point.
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>>85965688
>yeah we needed that frog burping

Wasn't that in the original?
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>>85965716
Thank you.
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>>85965738
oh you might not notice that they used the Cut and Move tool but it's just so damn awkward looking that you know that something incredibly lazy happened.
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>>85965589
>Yub-nub a shit.
You a shit
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>>85965765
It was. At least in RotJ

Don't seem to recall any burping frogs in any of the other ones
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>>85965688

>yeah we needed that frog burping,
The thing outside Jabba's palace? That thing burped in the original version.

> or the terrible song
The one Sy Snootles and the honey comb monster sings? The original wasn't any better.

>or the extra fifteen seconds of ESTABLISHING SHOT of Mos Esley
Literally nothing wrong with that.

>or poorly modeled Jabba
It wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible.

>or Han's neck snapping to let his entire head move tot he side and then reattaching itself.

I don't recall this. Which one was this in?
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>>85965765
It was. I still got a VHS copy of the original trilogy before Lucas made his first re-release. The Frog burp was still there.

Though granted the song was terrible. Bring back the old song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zghC6UgcV4
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>>85965798
>You a shit

Maybe so. But Yub-nub was most certainly shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81dXUliqLc&list=PL2yW2adfehiV_nkl3qzKKKjvVATgFMYmJ&index=25

Superior version coming through.
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>>85965824
It's the first attempt at the infamous 'Greedo shot first' scene. Han's head shifts (rather poorly) to the side to dodge Greedo's shot
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>>85965688
>that frog burping,
Actually as pointless as it was the space frog is in the 1983 version, if it's the thing I'm thinking about.
I agree with your assesments though, no arguments.

>>85965738
Or alternatively; if you're not as blind as a space bat. It's pretty easy to see that there is something unnatural going on.
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>>85965863
I like both songs.
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>>85965886
No, it's the LATEST version of Greedo shooting first. The first version had his out of place CG laser bolt fire off at a right angle and miss completely.
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Yub nub
Ee chob yub nub
Atomi topichi keen
G'noop dofling Oaaa
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>>85965863
Yub-Nub always sounded like something out of Sesame Street for some reason. At the same time, Victory Celebration always felt out of place.

That said, I have a soft spot for Lapti Nek. Snit can wail a pretty mean flute.
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>>85965833
Lapt Nek sounds like a literal remix of a relatively known 70s or 80s disco song. It's on the tip of my tongue, but I can't quite pin it.

That said, now that I've heard Lapti Nek in its entirety (it was in Battlefront II and I had no idea what the fuck I was listening to) I actually prefer Jedi Rocks. It's a little more timeless and can't be as easily dated as Lapti Nek. It's also a lot less all over the place.
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Yub Nub = Victory Celebration

Lapti Nek >>> Jedi Rocks
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>>85966009
>Victory Celebration always felt out of place.

How so? I thought it was a perfect celebration/"end of the saga" song.
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>>85966009
Yub Nub really fails to underscore the significance of the Rebellion's victory. Even watching it on Youtube gives off a wave of secondhand embarassment and awkwardness. I can't even imagine how it must have felt like in theaters, after such a climactic battle, to have gotten... well, that. Victory Celebration washes you in the bliss you're supposed to feel.
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>>85966037
Lapti Nek sounds more alien, and in a palace of a Crime Lord Space Slug surrounded by aliens, it fits
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>>85966009
>At the same time, Victory Celebration always felt out of place.

It felt anything but that for me. I thought it helped portray that the biggest evil of the universe was defeated once and for all, and that alot of what the heroes fought for had been won.

Of course, we know by the time of TFA that this was only half true (I'm referring to the latter, of course). But yeah, the special edition version was very much fitting for me. It even sounded like it was made back in early 80s. Like it was part of the original score.

> I have a soft spot for Lapti Nek.

That's cool. Nothing wrong with that.
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>>85966037
You may be thinking of the club mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOSuY12Rrs
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>>85966158
I understand that, but it clashes with the overall feeling of the environment and kind of takes me out of everything. Jedi Rocks has much better sound and direction.

I can also easily sing and move to it. Lapti Nek I'd have expected to hear in the Outlander Club on Coruscant in Episode II.
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>>85966264
That's the one.
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>>85966283
>the Outlander Club

Don't you mean Jumbo's Clown Room?
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>>85966283
I find the exact opposite. I would expect Jedi Rocks on Coruscant, seeing as how it has a temple full of Jedi on the planet, the singe would have a more obvious source for the song name.
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>>85966498
You're thinking a little too in-universe citing names when we're discussing the feel of the songs themselves.
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>>85966569
Even the feeling of it. It has the sort of jazzy tune I expect to hear in a seedy bar in the underbelly of a city.
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>>85965824

>> or the terrible song
>The one Sy Snootles and the honey comb monster sings? The original wasn't any better.
like most changes in the special edition all it really does is pad run time, it ends up making the whole scene forty or so seconds longer, and introduces us to some of the worst CGI ILM has ever made. The only real positive to the scene is that we get the extra bit with Femi Taylor back in the Oola costume and make up and she looks even better than before (rrrowr)

>>or the extra fifteen seconds of ESTABLISHING SHOT of Mos Esley
>Literally nothing wrong with that.
It needlessly pads run time while adding nothing, not only that but it ends up being a redundant "look aliens!' shot when the whole thing leads to the Cantina which was made for "look aliens!" shots

>>or poorly modeled Jabba
>It wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible.
The worst example of CGI in the whole series. Aside from needlessly extending the movie it too is redundant and takes focus off of our main character Luke. We already had a scene of Han talking about his money problems with Jabba, we watched him kill a "man" over it. We don't need a second scene talking about the exact same stuff we just saw.
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>>85966127
>>85966152
>>85966176
I dunno. It always felt underwhelming considering the moment. It fits better than Yub Nub, but it still left me wanting something more grand. Then again, maybe it's just me expecting something as big and bombastic as 'The Throne Room'.
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new thrawn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRAOcRBDr-A&ab_channel=StarWars
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>>85966669
>new thrawn

Old Thrawn.>>85965517
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>>85966699
fugggg
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>>85966037
Lapti Nek is an original song that was originally written in english. They also recorded it in english until they could translate it to Huttese and record a new version.

It's called "Work It Out"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd4Gwe6EYaU

>>85965887
>>85965791
If you're watching the latest release(Blu Ray) it's been cut down to the same length as the original scene and you literally don't notice it, the movement looks natural.

>>85966158
Both songs sound alien-ish. I like Jedi Rocks better because I like the idea that Jabba would want to make the atmosphere of his palace less dreary.
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>>85964677
I miss when the minifigs didn't talk.
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https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/771752882517311488

http://jalopnik.com/we-need-to-talk-about-star-wars-droid-names-right-godda-1786060642
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>>85962344
>>85964843
both are good books. Lords of the Sith needed more sith and less walking in the woods zapping bugs. Twilight Company would have been better if told in a normal order
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>>85965517
Thrawn is now the major?
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>>85965517
>>85964733
The shitposting when Sabine runs circles around Thrawn in the finale will be phenomenal.
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Will the Thrawn trilogy graphic novel suffice as a replacement for the trilogy?
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>>85968331
>Lords of the Sith needed more sith and less walking in the woods zapping bugs
I thought it had the perfect combination of action, suspense and drama. Otherwise, It would've gotten stale. But then again, I loved Tarkin from beginning to end. Especially the moments Tarkin recalls his youth. People called it boring but it humanizes and gives great insight on why he became the man he is/was.
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>>85968658
I was really hyped for the book and with the name like "lords of the sith" may expectations were elsewhere. also I think it would have been better if when it all ended sheev revealed that it was all part of his plan.The resistance came off as shitheads so it would be a nice touch if sheev had allowed some things to happen for PR and to flash out the traitors.maybe did do it but I would have liked it spelled out more (even if it would be bit of a sheev wank)
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>>85963150
>17
you know what that means boys
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>>85968377
Would that mean Thrawn is also a cyborg?
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>>85968838
It was pretty clearly all orchestrated by Sheev. Maybe everything didn't go exactly how he wanted it, like getting stranded in the woods, but throughout the book it's heavily hinted—I think he even explicitly says so multiple times—that he wanted to both draw out imperial traitors and make the rebels blow their load prematurely before they could build up a sizable force by acting as bait.
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>>85961900
more like fag side
heh
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>>85969094
>It was pretty clearly all orchestrated by Sheev.
yep the big hint for me was When they jump out of hyperspace and he takes a moment because he sensed something but I really would have liked him and vader to talk about it, maybe in the "power of the dark side" way. maybe even few notes on the public reaction to the event.
>I think he even explicitly says so
I don't think he does and usually when he pulls that in public he is trying to cover up that he was blindsided that was not the case here What did you think about the whore pit and killing of the village?
>>85969046
meat is back on the menu
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>>85968838
>when it all ended sheev revealed that it was all part of his plan.The resistance came off as shitheads so it would be a nice touch if sheev had allowed some things to happen for PR and to flash out the traitors.

I don't know about a PR thing, but everything that happened did so because he allowed it to. It was all his plan. To rout the Free Ryloth movement by using himself as bait (forcing Cham to roll out and spend his full arsenal), to expose traitors within the imperial ranks selling intel (Belkor) and, above all, to test Vader's loyalty. Almost everything that had transpired had done so according to his design. It was the Endor play done right.
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>>85969046
That Ezra can now shun her with cold indifference because
>I MUST DESTROY THE SITH!
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>>85969112
freez burn brah
>>85963150
I wish he had toyed with the dark more often
>>85965385
its lip service. its not like he will lead people or have any real power
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>>85969204
I meant he explained his plan to Vader at the end. He didn't tell the public jack because that kind of ploy would seem too insidious for his kind old man persona that everyone believes him to be.

The "kill everyone order" was in character but I still wish the writer had found a way to write around that, just because I personally don't care for "everyone dies" endings.
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>>85969247
>its lip service. its not like he will lead people or have any real power
you say that now, but in two years when he's able to fend off Vader and is the person that set up all of the Rebel bases after Yavin you'll look back on your comment here and shake your head and wonder how you could ever have been so naive.
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>>85964733
Hope he kills one of the main cast members then
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>>85969963
>fend off Vader and is the person that set up all of the Rebel bases after Yavin
no that is not true, that is impossible
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>>85969984
He won't.
Here's how Thrawn will meet his end.
A Rebel will infiltrate the Imperials, and rise through the ranks because they're a good guy and the good guys are the only ones that can be shown to be competent unless they're a main villain, and only then if they're not a new character.

Anyway, this rebel will rise through the ranks and eventually become Thrawn's attendant and will kill him or work his down fall from the inside, therefore the Rebels will have outwitted the tactical genius Thrawn. The rebel character will then also be presumed to be dead, but that won't really matter because he was only made up for this purpose.
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>>85964789
Aren't the Chiss just a species or subspecies of greater humankind?
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>>85970121
They're near-humans, like the Pantorans, Zabraks, and the Mirialans.
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>>85970121
They were in Legends, but that status in the new canon is unknown.
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>>85970161

GET OUT CHISS SCUM
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>>85970320
More blue than Chicho's butt
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>>85970428
I didn't know the Combine were in Star Wars
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>>85970428
... I just realized she doesn't have red eyes.
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>>85965661
Only in /co/, gentlemen!
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In my head canon Thrawn is the son of Cad Bane and Chuchi.
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>>85970687
(You)
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>>85970708
You can't just say something like that without writing the accompanying smut. Link here when you're done.
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>>85970710
(You too)
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>>85961900
>Let's deploy our commander-in-chief and his right hand man together in the middle of a ground battle

And people wonder why they lost against teddy bears.
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>>85971013
Sidiious and Vader weren't really "deployed" on Ryloth. They had to evacuate an ISD that was getting blown up and they crash landed on the planet and had to travel on foot from there.
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>>85971048
WHY WERE THEY ON THE SAME DESTROYER.

I hope someone got choked for that blunder.
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>>85971093
>WHY WERE THEY ON THE SAME DESTROYER.
I'vew not read the book, but I'm guessing it's because Sidious wanted to talk to Vader.
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>>85971093
Why would they choke themselves? It's not like anyone has the authority pre-ANH to order Vader around other than Sidious, and no one can order Sidious no matter the year.
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>>85971093
>WHY WERE THEY ON THE SAME DESTROYER.

Because the Emperor ordered it so? Senator Taa was on the same Star Destroyer as well.

>I hope someone got choked for that blunder.

Considering Sidious came out on top in the end, I'd say he didn't.
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>>85969094
>>85969224
Was it also implied that Palpatine drew out the Lyleks to test Vader?
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>>85970465
You have failed us for the last time, Anonymous
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>>85963437
>(7 seasons)
Wait really? Sauce please? That's a long run for any show. I was worried Rebels might get canned after season 2

What will they even do for three more seasons after this?
I can't even imagine
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>>85971574
slowly reveal that Kanan and Ezra were actually indispensable allies in the fight against the Empire and were able to defeat the Empires most cunning, dangerous,and decorated officers and agents, all while making sure that no one in any way connected to the original trilogy knows that they're Jedi.
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>>85971574
>Sauce please?
I believe Dave and Pablo have said it before. Either on Twitter or in interviews.
>What will they even do for three more seasons after this?
Probably show the transition from little skirmishes and searches for resources to full scale battles and taking over entire worlds for the Rebellion. I could easily see the final season (assuming they skip some years here and there like they're doing with Seasons 2 and 3) showing how the war slowly ended in the final year right before the Battle of Jakku.
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>>85971574
Probably showing Ezra and Kanan as the rebellion picks up momentum. See some characters come and go(I'm betting Rex is going to kick it by Endor), and new faces get introduced, and play on the conflict with Ezra being seduced by the dark side.

All the way up to Jakku, with some climax. Like, I dunno, Bendu Kanan fighting Sithed up Ezra?
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>>85970092
>a rebel
>not this guy
At any rate, what will probably actually happen is Thrawn will be Vader 2.0.

He'll show up, be an unstoppable badass for two episodes, then dispatch an Inquisitor or three and disappear until the season finale. The Inquisitors all die, especially the waifuable one. Governor Pryce probably dies. The Rebels think they win, until Thrawn shows up with a Gravity Well equipped Star Destroyer and a massive fleet. Then a "To Be Continued..." to tie into the start of Season 3.
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>>85971364
>Was it also implied that Palpatine drew out the Lyleks to test Vader?

Not really. But he certainly didn't object to their presence. The whole fiasco on Ryloth (not just the Lyleks) was meant to test Vader. Just like Naboo's Festival of Light and the Battle of Coruscant.
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>>85970092
>implying Thrawn won't be shuttled away to safety to be menacing from afar like Tarkin and Vader
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>>85968316
That article is some load of crap.
Mixing Legends shit with some made up shit that I couldn't find a source from.

Also
>Gawker
RIP in pieaces, you can't die soon enough
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>>85971892
>that moment where Vader legit starts worrying about Palpatine's safety
You're right, it was all a test for Vader too. There are several moments Vader has where he regresses into being Anakin. His compassion, his memories of ahsoka, the Clone Wars, Padme and saving the little Twliek girl.

I wonder how Deez is doing these days.
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>>85971952
But Pablo Hidalgo says it sums up his thoughts on the matter.
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>>85972028
Then he can't have read the article properly.
Because it's so poorly written, full of false facts, citing "facts" from the wook that doesn't even exist when I try to look them up and again, mixing non-canon information with canon info.
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>>85972020
>that moment where Vader legit starts worrying about Palpatine's safety

I don't remember it like that. I'm pretty sure that was him actually having thoughts of hoping they'd kill Sidious, or be able to get the drop on him and do it himself.

>His compassion, his memories of ahsoka, the Clone Wars, Padme and saving the little Twliek girl.

You forgot Sixes.

>I wonder how Deez is doing these days.

Oh, he got locked away at a mental intitution. Deez's nuts
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>>85940869
I'll try my own googlefu, but in the meantime, does anyone know off the top of their head where FPJ said this about full renewal, and does anyone know the Collider interview in question?
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>>85963437
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/771834896322932737

>>85971574
>Wait really? Sauce please?
FPJ said it in an interview with Collider. Don't have a specific timestamp, but I'd assume it was a recent one.

I'll try finding it.

> That's a long run for any show.
It's been becoming the norm for more and more shows.

>I was worried Rebels might get canned after season 2
Disney has picked the show up for it's entire run. The yearly renewals are just for the press.

>>85972164
Source:

twitch
tv/jrtwitch1/v/86505067

37:24 - 38:25

>What will they even do for three more seasons after this?
Show the parts of the Rebellion we barely/never saw in the films.
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>>85964030
>>85971574

Dave and Pablo have said. Something else said recently (by Freddie Prinze Jr. on his Twitch) was that Rebels doesn't get picked up season to season, Disney picked up the show in it's entirety, so Dave obviously has his story planned out and is allowed to see it through, meaning no (foreseeable) cancellations.
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>>85972210
>Source:
>
>twitch
>tv/jrtwitch1/v/86505067
>
>37:24 - 38:25
Thanks
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>>85972123
>I don't remember it like that.
There's a moment just before everything goes to shit on the Star Destroyer that Vader asks Sidious to evacuate or find a safe place.
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>>85972210
Holy fuck thanks for posting all this. I'll keep it in case someone else asks for all the sources for this stuff.
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So we can all agree on that C2-B5 is a C2 Unit right?
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>>85972767

Beep boop, we wuz astrodroids n sheeit boop beep
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>>85972767
It's literally a R2 unit painted black.

It's an R2 unit that the writers ignorantly called a C2.

In all likelihood, it won't get a name in the movie and will probably just be in the background for a scene.
It's just all marketing that they try to sell an "Evil R2-D2"
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Has anyone asked Pablo if both Jango Fett and the Clone Troopers are sterile?
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>>85972767
>So we can all agree on
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>>85972845
>ignorantly
No
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>>85972905
Implying intent?
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>>85972863

Well, what about that one clone who had a family on a farm?
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>>85972913
Yes, they obviously dropped astromechs always having their model in the name.
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>>85972863
Isn't implied Jango Fett is gay? I mean doesn't he fuck Cad Bane?
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>>85972973
Step-children. His wife had human-fever.
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>>85972973
Weren't those all twi'lek kids?
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>>85972973
Tell me anon, how did a clone that was living on Kamino for all his life until two years, at most, prior to that episode, have children that were at least 5 years old?
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>>85972991
>>85972994
Seems I made a mistake, I thought they were mixed
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>>85972987
It's not gay if it's a feminine dick, anon.
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>>85969046
>you know what that means boys
One more year until she loses interest.
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>>85972973
Shaeeah and Jek are Suu's, not Cut's. He took them in as his own when he married Suu. And this was one year into the war, so it couldn't have been possible for Cut to father those children.

>>85972994
They're confirmed hybrids.
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>>85972977
Ah.
That makes a lot more sense.

In the current system there would only be 260 individuals of each model. And that's retarded.
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>>85973011
They were. They just weren't his.
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>>85973009

I made a mistake, I didn't remember how Long he was on the planet
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>>85973019
>They're confirmed hybrids.
Hybrids don't exist in Star Wars, familia
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>>85973055
Their existence disproves your claim.
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>>85973055
Is that so

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/740203066155114496
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>>85973055
Quarren/MonCal hybrids are confirmed.

>>85973053
It doesn't matter how long he was on the planet. The key fact is the way the Clones were brought up. They lived on Kamino for up to 10 years, since they were born, until the war started. The episode couldn't have happened more than two years after the war broke out and the Clones were let loose into the galaxy.
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>>85973071
Their dad was a pink skinned Twi'lek
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>>85973085
>Quarren/MonCal hybrids are confirmed.
Yeah, but they come from the same planet, so that's plausible.

Also where?
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>>85973104
Nice
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>>85973085
Okay, I'm not disagreeing with you, but...
>It doesn't matter how long he was on the planet
>proceeds to explain how he couldn't have been on the planet long enough
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>>85972863
So, no one answered my question. Was Jango and his Clones sterile? Do we have to ask Pablo?
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>>85973104

Pablo says no
>>85973082
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>>85972973

>Mfw accidentally made a mistake and it causes a new discussion in the thread
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>>85973082
>>85973163
Just saying that there hasn't been a human hybrid before.

And even if P-God says otherwise, there's nothing in universe, definitively, that says so
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>>85973189
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>>85973016
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>>85973130
One of the newly added short stories to the Tales of TFA aliens collection when it was released as an actual physical book.
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>>85973189
>he's retarded
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>>85973189
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>>85973218
You have to admit that the evidence so far is pretty fucking sketchy.
The timeline and their appearance makes it not guaranteed in the show.
Deleted scenes or concept art aren't canon.

What are some other hybrids? The Moncal/Quarren one makes sense since they evolved on the same world.

As far as I know, hybrids don't exist in Star Wars. They'd be very common if they did.
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>>85973272
>The timeline and their appearance makes it not guaranteed in the show.
are you retarded? They're not his kids but they do have a human father.
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>>85961900
What is that rebel doing there, not aiming at Sidious or Vader?
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>>85973307
being a shit, like all rebels
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>>85973272
There are new things introduced with every new piece of material anon. From TCW to Rebels to the new films, there's always something new in Star Wars. Just because you've never seen it before doesn't mean it's uncommon to the universe.

>New Races/Species don't exist, they would be very common if they did
What sense does that even make?
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>>85973298
Yeah, yeah.
I'm just saying that it's retroactive. Like they were intended to be his kids, then they forgot about the timeline, then they made the old husband a human to keep it consistent.

Since twi'lek females are literally made for sex, why aren't there more hybrids?

What are some other human hybrids?
Once is always a coincidence, evidence-wise.
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>>85973272
"Word of god" from the Lucasfilm Story Group is canon. They've directly stated the kids are Twi'lek/Human hybrids. That's not sketchy in the least little bit.
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>>85973353
Other races/species can be hidden because we've always been told that the galaxy is a big place. Again and again, the galaxy is a big place. So it makes sense that there can be a common species that we never see.

But hybrids would occur anywhere where there are humans, and since 90% of Star Wars stories involve humans, hybrids should be fairly common
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>>85973272
Are you a Star Trek fan by any chance? Would make sense if you are since the shit you're shouting about not being canon is absolutely retarded.
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>>85973357
>Like they were intended to be his kids, then they forgot about the timeline, then they made the old husband a human to keep it consistent.
You don't know how the story development for that episode went, that's pretty ridiculous conjecture.

A clone deserted and met a woman and raised a family with kids that are not his own, which happen to be Human/Twilek hybrids. Somehow that is far fetched for you in a fantasy about space wizards with magical powers, among other things.

>>85973397
>New worldbuilding elements are illogical because I say so!
I pray to Sheev you're only this dumb on weekends.
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>>85963143
>>85963384
I thought Disney destroyed the EU?
>Thrawn that great of a genius to survive
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>>85973357
>I'm just saying that it's retroactive. Like they were intended to be his kids, then they forgot about the timeline
Do you realize you admitted to not watching the episode?
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>>85973009
Accelerated aging.
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>>85973491
>Somehow that is far fetched f
No, it's convenient.
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>>85973019
So they are human-Twilek hybrids, but they still aren't the clones.

Huh.
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>>85973623
And how does this "convenience" detract from the story and the setting at large?
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>>85973549
They've been planning on reintroducing him in Rebels since 2014 according to Pablo. That's when Season 3 meetings first began
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Post Star Wars canon
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>>85973782
>canon
>cannon
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>>85973782
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>>85973782
Pew pew pew
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>>85973656
I don't know, I'm not that other guy, I'm just telling you that the issue is that it's super convenient, rather than "far fetched"
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>>85973938
Suu just knows what she likes in a man.
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>>85973957
Yeah, just because Suu is into humans doesn't mean that it's convenient. I swear, non-human posters are always mad when their women go for humans.
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Why is it that whenever I enter a /swco/ thread, it feels like everyone is talking about Twi'leks? Especially when we have superior Zabrak waifus?
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>>85974054
There aren't many Zabrak waifus
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>>85974054
you can thank Femi Taylor for being so perfect, anon.
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>>85973161
>Jango
Most likely not.

>The clones
Most likely

>Boba
Probably not.
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>>85964982
So Disney erased. The old canon and now these assholes are just using other people's good ideas?

Nice
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>>85974907
to be fair, those other people kind of did the same thing with Star Wars
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>>85965685
Vader kills Krennic and the Death Star then falls under the authority of Tarken, a leader Vader actually respects.
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>>85974951
Tarkin already had control of it before Rogue One times. Krennic is just the director of special weapons of whatever it was called, which is just the laser part of the Death Star itself, not everything else.
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>>85974951
Tarkin already had full command of the entire thing though.
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>>85974935
What do you mean? The authors who wrote the original book in the eighties, nineties, etc.

Those authors had to use existing character traits for pre-existing characters. They had to write the trilogy characters as they were portrayed in the movies.

These new guys are taking the general look/name of excellent characters and just using whatever characterisations they want to shit them up instead of creating their own memorable characters.

I see a big difference between those two things tbqh.
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>>85975128
>Those authors had to use existing character traits for pre-existing characters. They had to write the trilogy characters as they were portrayed in the movies.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No they didn't.
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>>85975006
>>85975010
How do you know this? The movie isn't out yet?
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>>85975163
Have you read Tarkin yet?
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>>85975128
You do realize that the creator of Thrawn was brought in to assist with his Rebel's appearance, and is writing a new Thrawn novel?

They're not disregarding previous characterizations like you might believe.

http://www.starwars.com/news/qa-with-timothy-zahn
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>>85975163
>Plaques at Celebration described Krennic as Director of Advanced Weapon Research. There's only one "advanced weapon" on the Death Star and that's the laser.
>The book Tarkin is literally a look into Tarkin's life while he's busy with the project. We also see him as a cameo in the end of ROTS overlooking the shell of the DS.
>The Rogue One: Catalyst teaser we got the other day shows him being interested in Galen Erso's research into energy based weaponry, which he corrupts into the Death Star laser research after Krennic saves the Erso family in the Clone Wars times, and forces them to be useful to him.

Easy to connect the dots here, anon.
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>>85975148
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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>>85975291
Unless, dare I say, Disney doesn't give two shits about a book.
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>>85975302
No. You have to admit you're wrong and I'm right.
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>>85975332
All evidence to the contrary.
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>>85975332
You must be an average /tv/ poster that doesn't understand that it's the Story Group that decides what goes into the movies as exact plot details, not Disney.
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>>85975372
So do you think movie overlords deliver story groups to film studios? They'rehired by Disney.
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I miss shotanon.
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>>85975443
>They'rehired by Disney
And given autonomy.
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>>85975452
He was a good friend.
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>>85975302
well one really just has to point at the Jedi Prince to disprove your comment.
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>>85975443
Almost everyone in the Story Group has been working in Lucasfilm prior to Disney even happening to them. They were all brought together into the Story Group to consolidate the stories and make them all fit. They oversee literally everything in the Star Wars canon, to the point where they had JJ come to them to ask him about things he wanted to put in TFA and they had to say yes or no to it. Story Group has fingers in literally every pie and they decide on everything.
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>>85975332
>disney

You do realize Lucasfilm still runs the show, right?

>>85975443
No, Lucasfilm is still in control. And we know that the film crews are in contact with the Story Group to keep things from contradicting.
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>>85975531
Source please
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>>85975574
Maybe check every single press release between the buy-out and the film's release?
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>>85974223

Look deep and you can find a cute hornhead
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>>85975574

Let me clarify my meaning. I am legitimately curious and not trying to be a dick. This all interests me.
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>>85975531
>Story Group approves of Baton's stopping Lightsabers.

good to know
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>>85975659
CUTE
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>>85975574
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page

http://www.starwars.com/news/a-new-dawn-for-star-wars-storytelling

http://www.starwars.com/news/swca-one-big-story-star-wars-canon-panel-liveblog

http://www.starwars.com/news/sdcc-2015-star-wars-publishing-panel-liveblog

http://www.starwars.com/news/disney-publishing-worldwide-and-random-house-announce-relaunch-of-star-wars-adult-fiction-line

Literally just fucking Google Lucasfilm Story Group and a product title and read about their involvement in everything.
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>>85975735
Energy based shock riot sticks. Lightsabers have been weak against energy fields for over ten years now.
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>>85976108
We've been over this, and it never ends well
it's why I keep bringing it up
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>>85976204
Yeah? And Luke has a canon force kick ability with a delayed reaction to his target. You can't even see the point of contact so for all you know the energy rides along the length to fend off the lightsaber just like Anakin found out against a Magnaguard in Episode III where he also tried to strike the middle of the weapon away from the energized tips and was deflected.
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>>85976204
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>>85976342
Well you misfired, but all I see is the arm in the way and a huge glow. Hence you don't see the actual point of contact, even if you know where along the length it hit. AND ONCE AGAIN

things happen in movie production, mistakes happen, and those are legitimate errors. See, once again, Luke kicking that dude on Jabba's barge.

And again the energy traveling down the length of a weapon regardless of the energized ends has been shown before in Episode III. That tech existed over 50 years ago in-universe. So big whoop.
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>>85976204
I think it's obvious the choreography didn't take it into account, and we're triggered by it because we care for hating Star Wars.

The lightsaber didn't make contact with the energized part of the baton on film, but it did in universe. Just like Luke probably did kick the dude on the sail barge, but didn't on film. It's ridiculous to think that this was intentional.
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>>85976342
>>85976204
Oh shit, a Magnaguard electostaff being hit in the exact middle and not being cut in half! Somebody call Pablo and tell him he'll need a lot of coffee, stat!, to get us through this! George is immediately fired, we're selling Star Wars to Disney so they can fix this mess!

Thank goodness blessed Filoni had electrostaffs being cut apart by lightsabers!
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>>85976342
There's a simple explanation for this, you have to go backwards to go forwards.
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>>85976595
J.J please go
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>>85976569
The text is surely a bit much, sarcasm won't help. But this is an older debate than Episode VII. I remember there were theories that the weapon destroyed in TCWs is because Dooku wouldn't give his personal guards weapons that were 100% effective against himself.
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>>85976510
>The lightsaber didn't make contact with the energized part of the baton on film, but it did in universe.
Since the start it's been said that "what is in the movies is what is canon" it was always the highest level of the canon, back when it had levels. It's why dumb ass shit like the "force kick" exists, it's why Leia's only force ability to remembering things she never experienced and she gets literally nothing else. Ever since the first movie people have been making excuses to make what happens in the movies make sense with each other.

So just saying "oh well in the REAL canon, which this isn't, it happened this way" is pretty fucking funny to me.
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>>85976679
Anakin again this time striking right next to the Magnaguard's hand. He cuts the droid in half a moment later.

It's possible they hadn't 100% decided at this point. George specifically requested non-lightsaber weapons that could stand up to lightsabers. I remember for awhile The Wook had them made from...not cortosis, but i think phrik? It's been years since we've discussed this in /co/ Star Wars threads.
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>>85976569
>George says that the Lightsabers can cut through anything
>George makes a movie that he writes, directs, produces
>he goes over all the digital production stuff
>he watches his actors reherse the fight scenes
>he films his actors doing the fight scenes.
>he goes over the fight scenes and approves the digital passes to add all the effects
>he never points out that the block shouldn't happen
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>>85964733
Guess what failure got him kicked out to the unknown reaches.
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>>85976683
I realize that most of the time we get in-universe explanations to explain everything, but stuff like the brief part of choreography in a second fight scene really is pushing it.

Has fun as explaining away is, we can either treat them as errors until they're addressed in whatever manner Lucasfilm chooses or come up with explanations ourselves. In this one specific case, I choose the former. The contact was held in the scene for 4 seconds. I'm don't see the point of getting bent out of shape over it.
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>>85976780

he's going to defect to the rebellion and then die heroically.
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>>85976781
Magnaguards are so fucking cool. I love how Obi-Wan is legitimately surprised by how beheading it doesn't kill it.
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>>85976811
I use all of it to show that lightsaber pikes should be a thing, because spears and polearms have always trumped swords, and it's time for shithead Jedi lightsaber fellaters to learn their goddamn place.
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>>85976835
Nah, that's Kallus. Thrawn is gonna die at the end of S3, Ezra's gonna kill him out of anger, then his journey will be complete.
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>>85976774
It's possible George hadn't 100% decided yet. He is the one who requested the weapons and approved them. We have the clip of the guy working on TCWs talking about how by season 2 the directive was no metal should stand up to lightsabers, so it's possible he did indeed just not decide.

If he saw this and approved it this suggests some possibilities:

1. he was initially fine with certain metals being lightsaber resistant.

2. he wasn't fine with it but didn't care because he didn't think it would matter in such a frenetic scene. This would further suggest that he either underestimates the fans willingness to freeze frame everything and debate what we see as inconsistencies and/or he's less autistic than people claim.

Or he could intend to fix it in a later Special Edition. Or he is actually just fucking with the fans on purpose knowing this shit drives us crazy.
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>>85976835

to add to this there is no way the thrawn in outbound flight can turn into the thrawn in the thrawn trilogy. the vong thing was a poor excuse.
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>>85976908
Not like Thrawn has to die specifically. He could get reassigned. At the very least his boasts of dismantling the rebellion piece by piece doesn't pan out.

I mean he COULD still do a shit ton of damage and seemingly defeat them, but ultimately the Rebel Alliance (which doesn't yet exist) will form, so the most he could do is delay the inevitable uprising.

No matter what happens Thrawn WILL ultimately fail, no matter what. He could actually win every fight and still the rebellion won't stop.
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>>85976908

eh, pretty sure thrawn knows ezra is a loose canon and wouldn't put himself in a position to be murdered by someone with force powers.
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>>85976972
Zahn's doing a new novel, Thrawn, detailing how Thrawn joins the Empire and leads into Season 3.

Supposed to be released next year.
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>>85977067
>next year
Goddammit I'm really impatient here.
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>>85977067

yeah, i know. i hope he fixes his mistakes.
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Was the Darth Maul dub uploaded yet?
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>>85977120
>implying Zahn made the vong and that it wasn't shoe horned into his book by Del Rey
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We're a bit heavy into arguing at the moment, so I don't know if this is a good time to bring it up or a bad time.

It's not really a complaint, as such, but I'm rewatching TFA and enjoying the idiotic Hollywood tactics of the First Order despite them supposedly relying on elite, highly trained troopers because they have such smaller numbers than the Empire had access to. They want the map to Skywalker so they don't just bombard Lor San Tekka's village from orbit, but neither do they just surround it and force a surrender. Instead they land in craft that only open at the front so the troops rush headfirst into direct enemy fire instead of out the back so they can use their own craft's amor as cover. LAATs at least let you disembark from the sides and you have ball gunners to cover you.

They didn't even send a recon ticket first to detect things like Poe's X-Wing. Instead it's spotted and then only TWO dudes charge it. This is most certainly not the elite fightin' force of the First Order that's superior to Imperial Stormtroopers they swore it would be.
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>That issue in the comics where Sheev blows up an entire building of people just to kill 6 rebel spies
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>>85977437
The First Order's MO seems to be to do everything the Empire did, only bigger- and that seems to include mistakes. Starkiller Base was already a really bad idea and they not only failed to learn from the weaknesses of the first two Death Stars, but they made the same mistakes on a larger scale. Also how stupid is their crew if they didn't notice that the shields had been turned off until a bunch of X-Wings suddenly show up?

I can't fault the stormtroopers for falling victim to, well, stormtrooper syndrome though. No matter how elite or superior they're meant to be, they're pretty much doomed to fail against plot armor.
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>>85977608
>Also how stupid is their crew if they didn't notice that the shields had been turned off until a bunch of X-Wings suddenly show up?
How do you know they didn't notice?
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>>85977608
On paper, the Starkiller Base works though. Reminder: the X-wings were getting shot down in droves. They alone didn't have the umph to blast open the armour shell.

If Han and friends hadn't blown the exhaust port, the mission would have been a failure, the Starkiller would have fired again, and the Resistance would have failed entirely.

It also got rid of one of the weaknesses of the Death Star. That being that is HAS to be in orbit around the victim planet before it can blow it up. Imagine how short Return of the Jedi would have been if the Death Star 2 sniped Yavin 4 from three or more star systems away?
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>>85977673
Nobody bothered to turn it back on, for one, so that alone implies nobody realized it had been turned off. Worse though, when Hux and the crew see the X-Wings and start losing their shit, you can hear one of them go "SHIELDS UP! SHIELDS UP!"

Here's more of a massive security failure: the entire reason the Resistance has schematics of Starkiller Base is because Snap Wexley and his team apparently flew all the way to it right after the Hosnian massacre, got close enough to get a full detailed scan of the entire thing, and flew back to D'Qar without the First Order ever noticing.
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>>85977748
>Imagine how short Return of the Jedi would have been if the Death Star 2 sniped Yavin 4 from three or more star systems away?
I get your point here, but just to play devil's advocate:

The Rebellion leaves Yavin right after the medal ceremony (Leia comic, a couple of books). Even after ESB they didn't have a real base planet anymore, and the Alliance High Command was sticking to secret meetings on various planets or on Home One. Not until the NR is formed do they have a base planet again, which is Chandrila for the start.
It also would have been against Palpatine's keikaku boner to just shoot the laser from lightyears away just to kill the Rebellion. He wanted to make an example of them and draw them into a draw, which is did until it all went wrong.
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>>85968605
Should I take that as a no? Is the graphic novel that bad?
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>>85977856
>into a draw
into a trap*
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>>85977748
>Reminder: the X-wings were getting shot down in droves. They alone didn't have the umph to blast open the armour shell.
True, but an entire chain of security failures let Han and Chewie get in there and plant the explosives, lower the shields without anyone realizing it had happened, and allow the X-Wings to show up to finish the job. On paper it works, but all it took for Starkiller to get its shit pushed in was for the entire crew to come down with a sudden case of complete carelessness.
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>>85973707
But he's going to be a jobbing self-parody of his former self because Disney is a retarded money-grubbing pile of shit and won't fucking DARE to write anything that would jeopardize their 'ten-year-old boys' market.

It would have been more merciful to let him die.
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>>85977608
The best part is how despite needing intel from the village they march in their troopers who start shooting indiscriminately and even send in fucking FLAMETHROWER TROOPERS. You FO guys are the absolute worst at intel retrieval. I mean I hope the Empire remembered to interrogate the Jawas and Owen and Beru before burning them all down. I guess you never know, though!

The thing I love is what is in the background material that never made it on-screen. Like the FO has actually SOLVED the problem of unlimited energy. With their Quintessence they could create an ever-expanding, ever-lasting Empire beyond Palpatine's wildest dreams. The New Republic could never compete with that. Instead they use it to build a giant planetary gun that not only causes extravagant overkill and waste to the target but also requires they destroy a local star to power it. Incredibly wasteful.

And the idiots didn't even relocate their base despite having Finn's file so they should know that he knows where they are parked. JJ is not known for making bulletproof scripts in terms of logic. Not that we aren't used to things not making 100% total sense in Star Wars, but TFA had some doozies.

They don't ruin the movie for me. I find them fun nitpicks that make the FO seem like a bunch of children playing a game of empires and totally failing. Not that Luke fares much better, though so far we don't really know what happened. It's probably best left mysterious.
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>>85978053
Yeah, Lucasfilm shouldn't of given you shitstains a bone.
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>>85978053
You're retarded. Filoni said he's treating Thrawn like Tarkin or Vader. Hes not going to be jobbing.

Disney have no involvement in the show's writing.
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Remember the descriptions of the yet-unnamed Fleet Admiral Gallius Rax at the end of Aftermath, and everyone thought that was going to be Thrawn?

Maybe Disney will ruin Thrawn. I don't think so, but I acknowledge the possibility. But I am soooo glad Wendig didn't get his mitts on him.
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>>85978153
>Disney have no involvement in the show's writing.
If you actually believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
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>>85978215
Show me evidence that Disney are involved in the show's writing.
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>>85978053
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>>85978053
It's gotten hard to tell when we're seeing a legit buttmad EU fag or just a parody of one
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>>85963150
>Ezra secretly worries if he is powerful enough to defeat the dark side
Wait a minute, I recognize this subplot.
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>>85978384
Poe's Law seems to be cropping up quite a bit lately.

Saw it happen in another thread
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>>85978354
4U
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>>85978753
>unironically saying "Poe's Law"
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>>85975659
>>85975839
But Anons....
That's a young boy.
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>>85979309
>That's a young boy.
>Tfw had a feeling but wasn't sure
That trap porn's messing with my equilibrium
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>>85963135
>amuck
it's amok
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>>85979309
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>>85980173
http://grammarist.com/spelling/amok-amuck/
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>>85981335
I really like the new Star Destroyer design
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>>85981445
Yeah it's honestly one of the only designs I genuinely like from TFA
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>>85981498
I liked pretty much all of the First Order stuff, but the Resistance felt like it was missing something that made the original Rebels look so cool.
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>>85964500
god dammit i want horror movie darth vader, he was kind of scary around the time he came out.

i want to see rip cut through a wall and butcher dozens of rebels

>dark smoke filled room, with his light saber going on and off in the darkness
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>>85981729
https://vimeo.com/57304790
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>>85981445
>>85981498
I really hate how they angled it in every scene to make it look like the old tar destroyer.
Pic related: What it actually looks like
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>>85982022
what happened to the kuat shipyards any ways?
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>>85982071
Turned into Kuat-Entralla Engineering
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>>85981774
Christ, was he really that much of an edgy mary sue?
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>>85982022
Looks... kind of plain, honestly.
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>>85982170
So plain it kills us
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Where were you when Filoni understood Star Wars 6 years ago:

https://youtu.be/NmD0yH2VcDA?t=33s

Anybody else have problems posting?
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>>85983239
>Where were you when Filoni understood Star Wars 6 years ago:
Probably watching TCW and thinking "Damn, now this is Star Wars".

I believe Star Wars does, and always will, work better in cartoon form. The character arcs of Star Wars work so much better in Episodes, and Animation allows you to bring every aspect of Star Wars, be it dirty cantina's, to glossy cities.

I love that George considered Filoni as his "Padawan", and that Dave is going to get to (if Freddie is right and Disney doesn't fuck us) create a full 7-season show. That means Filoniwars is going to exist for at least the entire length of the Sequel Trilogy, and I suspect that it will consistently be better too.

And then, when Rebels/Episode 9 is wrapped up, fingers fucking crossed, Filoni will be free to start a Sequel Trilogy show.

The movies are just a distraction for the normies, who rarely watch or care past them; Filoni is creating and expanding Star Wars the way the hardcore fans have always wanted.

I mean, EUfags bitch all the time, because the old stuff isn't Canon, but the way Filoni (and the Storygroup post-2014) makes Star Wars is actually what we always wanted. I'm glad that the majority of fans seem to agree.
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>>85978153
yeah, and the seventh sister and the fifth brother will be really big and lasting threats for the ghost crew.
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>>85983638
Could Gary Kurtz have been able to salvage the prequels (and RotJ) from Lucas and Fox's continual attempts to scuttle the series?
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>>85983638
She was a threat to Ezra's virginity
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>>85983239
>But that's what Star Wars should be. We shouldn't just be doing what we've seen before.
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>>85984098
>We shouldn't just be doing what we've seen before.
Can you blame him? what we'd seen before were the fucking prequels.
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>>85984110
You misunderstood me. I was implying that a certain someone should listen to his advice.
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>>85984164
you're right, Filoni should actually try making up his own shit instead of stealing from the EU
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>>85984189
That's not who I'm talking about...
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>>85984189
>>85984110
Oh fuck off already. Always the same shitposts from you too.

>inb4 "th-this is my first time posting, I swear!"

>>85984221
Ignore him.
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>>85984223
>complaining about shitposting in a star wars thread

what else is there to do, anon? waifu post? suck the dick of some fat fuck in a hat?
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>"Working titles for Order 66" Go.
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>>85984265
Palace Renovation plan part 1
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>>85984240
How about talk about Star Wars instead of needlessly trying to start arguments?

4chan isn't all like /b/, /tv/ or /v/ you know. Most of the website actually likes being able to discuss things in a civil manner.
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>>85984240
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tfw underage shitposters invade these threads
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>>85984265
Justly Jettisoning Jackass Jedi with Joyful Jousting
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>>85984098
>shots fired

At least JJ isn't involved with the next two.
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>>85982170
It makes some sense learning from the failures of the Imperial-class, but it isn't aesthetically pleasing.
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>>85973055
>Hybrids don't exist in Star Wars, familia

Horseshit. The entire Dathomiri species is a mixbreed of Zabraks and Humans.
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>>85984612
It's possible some near-Human species are actually descendants of Human colonists.
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>>85984612
Also the fact that the Sith Inquisitor from SWTOR is canon a female Zabrak, and is the descendant of Sith Lord Kallig, who apparently had a bit of the Xeno Fever, if you catch my drift.
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>>85984699
>It's possible some near-Human species are actually descendants of Human colonists.

Possible, yes. But as far as we know, the Dathomiri are the closest to that. Everything else evolved separately with no involvement or influence from eachother.
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>>85982071
The New Republic capture it from the Empire.
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https://thewookieegunner.com/2016/09/02/dragon-con-star-wars-rebels-panel-highlights/

>Filoni saving his waifu
We all thought it was a joke
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>>85985134
I wonder what Darth Filoni had to give up to save Ashoka.
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>>85984568
I thought he going to be heavily involved in them, just not directing them?
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>>85985134
So Inquisitors are coming back. I bet we'll see Vader choke out the last one for their failures.
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>>85985223
His arms and legs. And a few layers of skin.
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>>85985239
YFW it's the "First Sister" Barriss Offee
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>>85985223
He sacrificed her
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>>85985392

Before, I would've said that wouldn't happen. That she'd be too powerful to be an Inquisitor. But since we know now that the Grand Inky was a sentinel, maybe it could happen.
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>>85985430
How could Inky be a sentinel when he's canon?
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>asked if Hera and Kanan are space married, a term that’s used to describe their close relationship. In response to that, Gilroy told fans that they should tune in next season
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>>85985608
Meant to quote >>85985134

Also
>In the season finale, we discovered that the Inquisitors were able to use their lightsabers to fly from one location to another. Gilroy stated that the reason is because Malachor is a strong hotspot for the Sith.
How the fuck would that have anything to do with what their lightsabers are capable of?
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>>85961900
What's with that trooper pointing his gun at Palpatine?
>>I'm sorry, sir, it's time for you to leave.
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>>85985134
>https://thewookieegunner.com/2016/09/02/dragon-con-star-wars-rebels-panel-highlights/

>Season three, which premieres on September 24, 2016, takes place six months after the events in the second season.
Anybody want to nail down a timeline?

Season 1 started approximately 5 years before ANH.

Then there's the often forgotten timeskip in which Ezra is undercover as a Cadet. Few months added there.

Then there is a timeskip between Season 1 - Siege of Lothal, in which our Rebels are now comfortaly working with Pheonix Squadron)

Then a further timeskip in which our crew is redesigned. By this point, we must be well into year 2 of the show. Season 2 progresses fluidly, and then there is a 6-month timeskip for Season 3. So Season 3 must be well into the third year.

So, if this current rate is unchanged, we can assume, that in the most general sense, including timeskips, each season is approximately 1 year long.

This means that 2017's Season 4 will perfectly happen alongside Rpgue One (and with it releasing 1 year later, high potential for crossover!)

2018's Season 5 will happen the year ANH happens. We may get some kind of connection there.

2019 is where my dick gets hard, because it means we have a very high chance of Rebel-Luke and Rebel-Han joining the cast as recurring characters. Actual Rebellion missions! Or recurring cameos like Hondo. We may also, one day, see characters from Rebels (assuming any of the original cast are still alive at this point) at the Battle of Hoth.
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>>85985715
All that matters is that Ezra was space legal when SS took his virginity
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>>85981774
Goddamn is Galen Marek a shitty character, and boring as shit at the same time. He's like the Sam Worthington of video game characters.
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>>85985134
>In the season finale, we discovered that the Inquisitors were able to use their lightsabers to fly from one location to another. Gilroy stated that the reason is because Malachor is a strong hotspot for the Sith.

Is this saying that they were just able to correctly sense where to correctly fly to, because they could feel all the important dark side hotspots?

Because it almost sounds like the Planet was literally helping them fly, which doesn't make much sense. I hope I am just retarded for thinking it sounds like he is saying that.
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>>85985715
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:SH:Timeline_of_Star_Wars_Rebels_Events
>One of the few but persistent challenges in creating articles for Star Wars Rebels, particularly event articles, is knowing where they fall in the timeline in relation to the Battle of Yavin. When the show started, Lucasfilm said that it was set five years before A New Hope. Within a few episodes, however, we were told that it was the fifteenth anniversary of the Galactic Empire, which would mean the show had advanced to be around four years before A New Hope. Now, the Lucasfilm announcement for the episode "A Princess on Lothal" says that the episode is set three years before the Battle of Yavin.
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>>85985787
Nah, he's the Sam Witwer of video game characters.

Just a joke, I love you Sam
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>>85985799
>it almost sounds like the Planet was literally helping them fly
It sounds to me like he's treating the 'coptering as a Force ability, rather than a lightsaber trick.
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>>85985801
Holy shit, things are moving quicker than I thought. This means there was a timeskip after the S2 midseason finale
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>>85985239
You just know Filoni will introduce another qt Inquisitor and kill her off immediately afterwards.
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>>85985715
>>85985801
Plus >>85963150 indicates that Season 3 starts after another Empire Day/Ezra Birthday.
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>>85985849
Will she be lewd or cute? I don't know which will hurt you more.
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>>85985134
Filoni saving his waifu and sacrificing our waifus/husbandos to keep her alive
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>>85985873
Both

Just like SS
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>>85985873
Cute.

So that her suffering as Vader chokes the life out of her will hurt us even more.
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>>85985849
I want an inquisitor to be stupid enough to report failure to Vader. It'll show what Grinky was so afraid of, and also allow Vader to kill someone unprotected by plot armor.
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>>85985934
Young, almost childlike, too. To stimulate our paternal instincts. I can already feel the tears burning.
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>>85985951
>to us, it's a loss of a waifu, someone who's smile we were never given the chance to protect
>to Vader, it's just another Youngling tally mark on his belt
>mfw
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>>85985715
>Then there is a timeskip between Season 1 - Siege of Lothal
I suspect the timeskip is between Siege of Lothal and The Lost Commanders. That's when the character models change.
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>>85985657
>>In the season finale, we discovered that the Inquisitors were able to use their lightsabers to fly from one location to another. Gilroy stated that the reason is because Malachor is a strong hotspot for the Sith.
>How the fuck would that have anything to do with what their lightsabers are capable of?

The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
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>>85985944
>Cyborg-legged Seventh Sister. appears on screen
>SSfags cry tears of joy
>Vader kills her two minutes later
>/scwo/ implodes
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>>85985998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaUAjBsCGCM
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>>85986001
But her legs are fine. The lightsaber hit her face/torso.
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>>85985715
>Then there's the often forgotten timeskip in which Ezra is undercover as a Cadet. Few months added there.
Servants of the Empire: Rebel in the Ranks has Ezra (as Dev Morgan) "transfer in from another academy" mid-semester. He was only there for a few weeks.
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>>85985998
That legit might be a good explanation. They were kind of using the dark side since they were relying so heavily on material objects to get them through the temple instead of simply walking/climbing like Kanan and Ezra. The dark side probably can be used to Macgyver your way out of situations (or in this case, abuse a Macgyver solution when it isn't actually needed) and these solutions would look extremely unnatural. Think of Vader's suit or a mixture of Sith alchemy and transhumanist technology being used to keep a nearly dead person barely sentient so you can torture them for info or something.
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>>85985951
I can see it now.

Have her be all proud, possibly competing with another Inky to be the new Grand one. She boasts about being the youngest Inky to survive and pass the training process.

She dreams of a world without Jedi, and wants to look down on her homeworld, from a Star Destroyer she is assigned to/in control of. A world in peace, because of her.

She also lets slip that she wants to impress Thrawn because she finds him "compatible" as a partner for her.

Then have Thrawn himself tell her she has failed, and send her to Vader, who chokes her.

Slowly.

And Owl flies in circles around Vader, and Filoni shoots the biggest load of his life imagining our anguish.
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>>85986126
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>>85986126
It's like Disney is testing how much torment they can inflict on us before we become jihadists or something...
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>>85986126
Fuck, man.
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>Still mourning the Seventh Sister
>Filoni will introduce new waifus who will inevitably die aswell

Does the suffering ever end?
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>>85986292
Is it just me, or do the lightsaber combatants in Rebels leave themselves open way too often?
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>>85986337
Inquisitors are shit, and Kanan isn't a fully fledged Jedi. He was literally only just given Jedi Knight status by a Force Ghoast...

So yes, yes they do.
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>>85986292
>Introduce TWO waifus in one episode
>One gets killed right off
>The other gets Dooku'd later on
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>>85986391
>one waifu is literally killed before Governor Pryce's eyes...
>Pryce and the other waifu spend the rest of S3 trying to avoid the same fate
>/u/fags flood /swco/
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Your predilection for waifus is troubling.

Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. They have become apart of the Living Force.

And lost their identity, spirit and consciousness.
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>>85986541
Ezra's parents comfort him. Why can't our waifus do the same?

I miss her, so much...
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>>85986592

>all the Rebels Original characters are dead/missing/irrelevant
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>>85986541
I don't think darksiders get to be a part of the living force. That's why, in Yoda's vision, Ahsoka was scared and asking if she'd still get to be one with the Force when she dies, having rejected the Jedi Order. It was supposed to feel like an Agnostic talking to a priest about Heathen on his deathbed, I think. Pretty fucked up stuff for a "kids show" (Yeah, I am aware that episode never aired)

Obi-Wan and Yoda could only yank Anakin into the Ghost Crew because of his redemption, and Chosen One status.
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>>85986374
Guess it explains why Ahsoka wiped the floor with both of the Inquisitors.
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>>85986668
None of the are irrelevant though. They're going to be partly responsible for the formation of the Rebel Alliance. The Rebel insignia is inspired by Sabine, and it looks like even the vehicles used in the Trench Run are going to be thanks to the Rebel crew aqiring them.

Plus, Pheonix Squadron as a whole + Quarrie, and of course our cast, were already responsible for the Rebellions equipment at teh Battle of Endor.

So at least for the General Rebellion + Starfighter sides of things, the Ghost and it's crew have been very important.

Other things of note:
>Almost certainly going to be responsible for ending the Inquisitorial program, a major win for freedom in the Galaxy.
>Stopped the Malachor Superweapon from doing god knows what

Who knows what else they're going to get up to in the future. We have supposedly 5 more Seasons! Plus any more comics and books about them, and potential movie crossovers.
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>>85986709
I don't see why it matters if you lose yourself to the Force. What's the point of going to heaven if you lose your consciousness? You may as well be turning out the lights forever.
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>>85986770
>Stopped the Malachor Superweapon from doing god knows what
Judging from the ash statues around it...

It's like a Death Star. Except instead of killing all life on a planet by blowing the planet up, it just kills all life on the planet. I'm guessing the temple can move from planet to planet. Because a super weapon that ONLY works on a planet it was already used on is rather pointless.
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>>85986915
That's the thing, We don't know enough about it. All life on the planet was dead, sure. But that doesn't make sense if you think about the visual clues they left. Think about the context;

>It was a Sith homeworld
>But Jedi were there fighting to stop it

Why would the Sith create a weapon that could only kill themselves, and why were the Jedi risking everything to be ON Malachor, to stop it? Chances are, it can destroy all life on other planets, but in that battle, something went wrong. Maybe the Jedi sacrificed themselves to keep the damage contained to just the Sith Homeworld.

On top of that, we know the lengths Maul has gone to to stay alive, and we know his primary motivation now is revenge on Sheev. So I am betting that the Temple's weapon was going to send Coruscant a nasty surprise, had Ezra and Kanan not pulled the Holocron out.
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>>85985715
How mad would you be if Disney decided to scrap Rebels before it got finished and started up a new show because Rebels wasn't making as much as it started?
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>>85987055
I would be 100% fine with it, I'm not exactly enamored with Rebels.
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>>85985715
far more autistic people than you have already done it already.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_galactic_history
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>>85986374
>He was literally only just given Jedi Knight status by a Force Ghoast

What ghost?
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>>85987391
Inky

...or Temple Guard Inky
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>>85985134
>>saving
There are some fates more frightening than death.
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>>85987040
>So I am betting that the Temple's weapon was going to send Coruscant a nasty surprise, had Ezra and Kanan not pulled the Holocron out.

Well, I would think it'd have to be aimed at Coruscant first. It was just being idle before the Holochron was removed. Though yeah. I don't argue that's what Maul was going to use it for.
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>>85987424

But that wasn't a Force Ghost. That was a vision created and controlled by Yoda. Yoda knighted him, not the Grand Inquisitor. The Grand Inquisitor did not have the knowledge or ability required to maintain his consciousness within the Living Force. Especially on account that he died still aligned to the Dark Side.
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>>85987055
Not possible. They bought Rebels in its entirety, which means that they will have to go through all planned Seasons before it ends.
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>>85987055
I'd be frustrated because it would mean Filoni would yet again have been robbed of giving a show a proper ending as he envisioned.

But if Filoni is ok with starting another in a new era with new characters, then I would accept it and relax. He could always just carry over plotlines and characters like he did with Maul/Hondo/Ahsoka in Rebels.

Filoni has proven himself, so basically, as long as he remains involved with whatever tv show they make, I will be on board. I don't want to risk someone else taking over, and they end up being like JJ. (A """""""""True fan!!!""""""""""")
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>>85986019
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>>85987767
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>>85987697
Yeah poor poor Filoni.
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>>85987823
I sense some bitterness in this post.

Who was she, anon? Who did he take from you?
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>>85987859
The chance for a good star wars TV show.
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>>85988025
wow rude
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Reminder to not feed the Sarlacc
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>>85986337
They're trying to keep it consistent with the OT lightsaber combat, where the lightsabers were rotoscoped over shitty graphite rods that broke if they moved them too fast.
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I liked The Force Awakens
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>>85988284
You're easily entertained.
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>>85988284
Me too. It gave us fresh memes
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>>85988284
I think most of us found it ok and enjoyable as a movie.

It just had a shitload of glaring problems, and did a disservice to the franchise (and any characters involved) in just about every way other than regaining a mainstream interest. Which, as The Phantom Menace showed, would have happened with any kind of Star Wars movie.
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Your waifu has just come back to life.

To fight you.
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>>85988097
>They're trying to keep it consistent with the OT lightsaber combat

Not to my eyes. The fights are much faster and a bit more sophisticated than with the OT. They look more like Prequel stuff.

>>85986337
>or do the lightsaber combatants in Rebels leave themselves open way too often?

It was like that a bit with TCW too (though less often than Rebels). Whoever is coordinating the fights for the show probably doesn't have much experience in swordplay. I honestly didn't really mind it much until Vader showed up in ToTA. He was moving alot faster than we'd seen him before, but his movements were sloppy and he looked like he was going to tip over and fall with alot of his excessively wide, two handed swings.
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>>85988391
it felt much more like the Star Wars of my youth than the prequels did, so it pleased me greatly.
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>>85988481
That's because it's almost the same movie. I didn't like TFA because I already watched it twenty years ago.
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>>85988416
>Ahsoka
>His waifu
He was more like his Sisterfu. He's an only child after all.
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>>85988481
>it felt much more like the Star Wars of my youth

For a about a third of my life, the OT was the only Star Wars I ever knew. TFA didn't give me that feeling. TFA felt like another one of those 'young adult' action movies like Hunger Games, Maze Runner or Divergent than envoking any kind of feeling of how Star Wars felt in the past.

Don't misunderstand. I'm not calling you wrong for feeling as you do. There's nothing wrong with how it made you feel. It just failed to make me feel the same.
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>>85988511
So? TPM was almost the same as ANH, just longer and more boring, and people seemed to like that piece of shit just fine.
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>>85988620
that's how the PT made me feel. It was like someone made some fanfiction because they heared some lines in ANH and just threw in as much stuff as they could think of.
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>>85988634
A lot of people have come to realize that TPM wasn't very good, shit even. The same can't be said for TFA which has blind and loyal fanboys to defend it still.
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>>85988683
>A lot of people
I think you mean literally everyone.
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>>85988735
The Prequals still have fans. I don't agree with them but whatever.
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so TFA made almost as much money (domestically) as the last three star wars movies combined.

Why did it make so much more money?
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>>85988806
Disney's marketing team.

Any other answer is objectively false.
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>>85988806
Marketing, word of mouth that there was more practical stuff and less greenscreens, a director that 'gets' fans and George Lucas wasn't involved.
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>>85988850
>>85988855
But why did TPM do so poorly (comparatively)? It didn't have any of the problems of people knowing that Lucas was going to do to it, it was the glorious return of star wars, a modern fantasy story epic.

And then the movie started.
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>>85988735
>I think you mean literally everyone.

No. Not everyone. I still enjoy TPM.


>>85988806

Marketing, hooking in a generation with no familiarity to Star Wars and catering to the OT purist faggot idea that the PT had excessive amounts of CG and that TFA was going to be 100% practical with no CG or greenscreen 'just like the OT'.
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>>85988911
>But why did TPM do so poorly (comparatively)?

Did it? To this day TPM is the only movie I know to get an extended theatrical release due to audience demand. I've never seen any movie get that.
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>>85988911
As far as I can think of it might have been the age of fans at the time. Everyone at the theater was either a kid like me or the others that went with me, or my dads age, so it's not like I had the money to see it more than once. And no social media to say how progressive it is or shill out to companies.

Competition too as Titanic came out shortly before and was the biggest movie ever at the time.
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>>85988911
It didn't do poorly, it was mindblowingly successful for the time. I think the best selling Star Wars movie.

It was also immediately very different. No classic characters or visuals in any of the trailers aside from young Obi-Wan, and Lightsabers.

Plus, something people keep forgetting, but Star Wars bridges Generations. The kids who flocked to TFA grew up on the Prequels with their parents (and maybe even grandparents) who grew up on the OT.

Because Star Wars is popular with kids, but also adults, every single Generation of kids is just adding to the Star Wars audience, not replacing the old one. The potential audience for TFA was bigger than the one for TPM, which was following a huge gap with no mainstream Star Wars, and no kids who grew up on it.
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>>85989006
>>85988983
>Did it?
>It didn't do poorly
>TFA: $936,662,225
>TPM: $431,088,295

do you not know what "comparatively" means?
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>>85989042
Well in my defense, "poorly" wasn't a good choice of word to use, even in that context.
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TFA was made for people who don't like Star Wars.
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>>85989101
Good, most of the people that like Star Wars are huge assholes.
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>>85988806
Because it wasn't a disappointment to most people, unlike the prequels.
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>>85988806
Because it's the newest Star Wars movie since 2005.
For a lot of peoplenormies and dirty casuals[/spoiler] Star Wars died after Episode 3 so now when a movie comes back, they can again be a part of the universe they lost for some reason.
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>>85989150
Star Wars is the fanbase that is secretly shittier than all of the worst (including Sonic, MLP, Undertale, Steven Universe, etc.) but isn't noticeable at first glance. You really have to be a part of the community for a while until all you can notice is PT fans, OT fans, TFA fans, Legends/EU fans, etc. flinging shit at each other from all directions. At least some of the more renowned annoying fanbases have a sense of unity; Star Wars fans are ALWAYS fighting among themselves because they each have a different idea of what Star Wars is.
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>>85989217
it's not like there was anything good that cam out after Return of the Jedi
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>>85989101
Or for people who "like" Star Wars, as in, they've seen the movies a few times and know who the main antagonists in the OT are.
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>>85989157
>unlike the prequels.
Except the prequels are overall more loved.
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>>85989267
Nope.
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>>85989267
>>85989310
Pic related reminder that you're a part of the minority if you hate the prequels
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>>85989310

Based on the the minority of fans who happened to be the most vocal? Most of the world didn't know from the OT and until recently had only the PT.
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So it looks like the comics don't have specific dates to them other than stuff like Obi-Wan & Anakin being in between TPM and AOTC and Star Wars being in between ANH and ESB.
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>>85989371
Pablo being able to dictate Star Wars canon doesn't been he gets to dictate reality.
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>>85989386
well duh.
the moment you say when something is or how long it takes it means you can't shove something else in between them, like TCW, or Rebels, or any of the comics.
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>>85989310
Yep.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/708775067992207360

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/708777308262301696
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>>85989383
But the Prequels aren't necessarily loved in those foreign markets, they're still just a bunch of sci-fi films. They don't get the negative reaction they received in the West, but they're still not regarded with the same sort of admiration or importance that the OT has in the West.
The Prequels not being actively hated over there isn't to say that they fill an OT shaped hole in Asia. Asia has it's own stories that it reveres, they just don't care too much for Star Wars.
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>>85965025

Thrawn isn't in same universe as Vader in terms of importance.

I love the books but you're just being delusional.
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>>85989371
That's millenials for ya.
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>>85989532
Asia loved the prequels when they came out. When China finally got the OT they didn't think it was anything special.
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So let's sum it up and move on shall we?

>The "east" is wrong because it doesn't hate the Prequels nor does it revere the OT
>The "west" is much more civilized because it hates the Prequels and nostalgia-fags way too hard over the OT.
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>>85989588
China loves Transformers, Need for Speed and James Cameron's Avatar.
The Prequels were reasonable successful but not loved in the same way Western franchises that really crack China are. They were quickly forgotten as just another American sci-fi film once the hype died down. Same as TFA.
Chinese "love" of the prequels is a misinterpretation of their apathy towards the Star Wars franchise overall.
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>>85989630
I'm sorry that I'm challenging your safespace
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>>85989692
>China loves Transformers, Need for Speed and James Cameron's Avatar
And at the chance of sounding condescending, that's not my intention. Those films are BIG business in China, in a way that Star Wars isn't.
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>>85989630
>opinions are shit

The end-all to all arguments
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>>85987040
>but in that battle, something went wrong. Maybe the Jedi sacrificed themselves to keep the damage contained to just the Sith Homeworld.
Malachor confirmed for nu Ruusan! Update the Wook!
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>>85989692
Yeah, I think it's more accurate to say that the prequels were more well received than the OT was, but they weren't a huge thing by any stretch. The problem with the OT was that it was only released there very recently, and having already seen a bunch of American sci-fi movies that were heavily influenced by the original Star Wars, to them the original was just "meh, seen other movies like this a hundred times, don't know what the big deal is."
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>>85989042
You're comparing 2015 dollars and 1999 dollars. If we adjust for inflation:

ANH: $1,542,515,700
TFA: $936,276,700
TPM: $782,102,600

Granted, ANH got that gross through multiple releases. This is also factoring in that TFA had a wide 3D release, which naturally brings in more money due to more expensive tickets. TPM also had a 3D re-release, but it didn't bring in all that much.

The real answer though is hype. They marketed the fuck out of TFA, moreso than even TPM and that also had a ridiculous amount of media presence and promotional tie-ins.
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>>85990914
A lot of the marketing played heavily to nostalgia, and while they never outright bashed the prequels, there was a lot of not so subtle "this is REAL Star Wars, not like the prequels!" messaging.
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A fan film called "Kylo Ren: The Awakening" made by some YouTube guys I like finally came out after taking a year to finish up. This was written and filmed before TFA came out, when we only had a few trailers and stuff, it's just taken a while to finish the effects, editing, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYkOTO-283g
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>>85991220
>some YouTube guys I like
We know this is you advertising your shitty fanfilm
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>>85991578
No its not. I'm nowhere near talented enough to make something like this. I'm just some shitty person who wastes time on the internet and will never amount to anything in life.
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>>85991220
>decent but unremarkable fight scene in the middle of the woods
>no attempt at a story
There's basically nothing to separate this from dozens of other fan films.
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>>85981600
I think the lack of variety is it. You saw the Rebels throwing four different kinds of starfighter at the Empire. The Resistance just seems to have X-Wings.
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Anyone really curious about Professor Huyang? He said he's lived on the ship for a thousand years (when the Sith went into hiding), yet it has all modern tech. Doesn't that partially prove that tech is stagnated in Star Wars?
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>>85991849
He's a droid. A walking PC essentially. He could have been upgraded over the years, to the point where pretty much none of his original body still exists.
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>>85991220
Not bad
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>>85991933
Actually I was referring to the ship. The droid himself looks old.
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>>85991849
Possibly, though I figure it's gotten upgrades over the years.
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>>85991849
wasn't that the droid voiced by that david tennent cunt?
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>>85992745
Yes. He won an Emmy for the role, which sucks because Jim Cummings (Hondo) was nominated for the exact same Emmy for his work on the exact same arc and did a better job than Tennant, who was playing the Doctor on autopilot again.
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Hey, want that new SS figure for hot glue? You'll have to buy a Maul figure to get her! And you better do the same to him or he'll feel left out!
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>>85992745
>david tennent cunt?
Literally how can you hate Tennant? He has never been anything more or less than a delightful and fun person. And like it or not, his younger take on the Doctor revitalized the show and interest, and is probably the only reason the show didn't get cancelled by Season 3

>>85992830
I do agree that Jim probably deserved that (although my favorite performance from him was his banter with Maul earlier in the season), but that's not to say Tennant didn't perform well enough.
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>>85992975
Comes with key accessories like a removable faceplate, parrot droid, lightsabers and... uh, that giant wearable double cannon thing, just like he had in the season 2 finale when he used that thing to blow up Kanan!
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>>85992975
Holy fuck, it's like Hasbro is trying to cuck /ss/ fags.

Totally buying this though. I wanted a Maul figure for a while, Seventh Sister is a nice bonus. Maybe I'll cut her in half, and lay her at Maul's feet for a nice display. Think I can send a picture to Filoni, and get featured on Rebels Recon?
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Also you need to buy a stormtrooper if you want a Baze Malbus figure
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>>85991849
>Doesn't that partially prove that tech is stagnated in Star Wars?
Not at all. It just means that some of the tech has been upgraded to modern standards.

We know for a fact that tech is not stagnated. Besides the fact that the films clearly show technology advancing in the films(Hologram tech allowing color, ships getting larger, First Order discovering sub hyperspace for Starkiller Base) we know for a fact that tech was less advanced.

Back in the early days of the Galactic Republic, travel between the Core Worlds and the Greater Seswenna was only safely navigable by hyperwave beacons along with tons of reversions to realspace in the process, and 4000 years ago people had to use hyperspace sextants to travel.
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>>85993045
He's scottish
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>>85993146
>the accessory
B I G G U N
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>>85993146
He has a gun. He has a huge gun.

Anyway, he has a gun.
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>>85993045
Tennant and his fat fag writer raped the show, and now all the tweens vilify the Grand Moff for returning the show to it's former glory
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>>85993146
That's a big gun.
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>>85993146
Eh, can never have enough Stormtroopers.
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>>85993045
He's nether given a convincing performance in anything. The only good Scottish actor is Billy Connolly
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>>85993184
>First Order discovering sub hyperspace for Starkiller Base
Don't remind me. How does a group that small discover that shit
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>>85991727
But if they'd brought a bomber to Starkiller they might not have needed the bombs Finn had (which if the point was to shut down the shield, presumably without a boom, why did he have them?) and for Han to die. but then again, Han was supposed to die in Jedi, so he was on borrowed time anyway

Really though in the first movie we saw a total of three ships for the rebels, X-Wings, Y-wings and the Falcon.

What I'd like to know about any other ships is how many of them are just previous ones but with guns on gimbals.
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>>85993333
What's a Y-Wing? You some kinda nerd, Anon?
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>>85993225
But Moffat IS shit. Capaldi is god tier, but the show has been 10x more tumblr-pandering since Moffat took over.

Are you forgetting the future black Queen of England? The interracial lesbians? The quirky new black companion? The LITERAL tumblr shout-out?

Tennant's run has a couple gays rarely, (and Captain Jack got an overly-sexualized "progressive" spin off show that I unironically loved) but it was mostly just a fresh take on the show that younger fans could engage more in.

There are some stories and episodes from Matt Smiths run that I adore, but Capaldi's first season was abysmal. Except for Heaven Sent. That was 11/10, and I think I got a semi just thinking about it.
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>>85993333
The plan wasn't just to shut down the shield, but to also damage the oscillator enough that the X-Wings could then finish it off. Then plan just apparently relied heavily on the First Order all being a bunch of morons who have no idea what the word security means.
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>>85993279
>How could a government military organization, the total of which likely numbered in the millions, with an overrun weapons and research budget figure out how to do a thing.

The same way 100,000 people figured out how to make nuclear fucking bombs.

>>85993403
the only plan we hear in the movie is Finn saying he can take out the shield if he's on the planet, and Poe saying that "We'll go in and hit it that oscillator with everything we've got" There's nothing in the actual breifing that Finn will blow up anything.

In fact Han and them were planning to leave with Rey until they see that the X-Wing attack isn't doing anything, then han mentions the bombs that Finn has for some reason, as if he'd made up the plan on the spot.
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>>85993530
Wait, that's right. Why DID they have the bombs then? The entire third act seems to get dumber every time I think about it.
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Meganon, or whoever handles the Rebels links. Some of the episodes have been taken down. In particular, the last two.

On that note, anybody have a direct link to Twilight of the Apprentice? I want to rewatch it. I cum super hard at the Seventh Sister asphyxiation scene.
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>>85993567
only guess I could have is that it's only a stealth mission up until they get into the base.

If Finn didn't know how to disable the shield generator, Han may have figured they could just blow it up. It worked for the second Death Star, after all. would have been nice to hear something to that effect though instead of Finn just walking around with bombs for no real reason other than "you can never have enough bombs"
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>>85993567
No explanation is given. Han just casually mentions that Chewie has a bag of them once they realize they need them.
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>>85993146
>Baze Malbus
Is his name pronounced BAYZ or BAH-zay?
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>>85993567
>The entire third act seems to get dumber every time I think about it.
Starkiller Base as a whole presents the biggest problem for the story- you can tell it was shoehorned in at the last minute without much thought given to it, since it not only has nothing to do with the original story of the movie (the search for Luke), but everything about Starkiller is riddled with characters magically knowing things or being places or having things or the villains forgetting things purely for the sake of plot convenience. The movie mostly does a decent job of avoiding "because the plot said so" conveniences until a bunch of them suddenly pile up once the story shifts its focus to Starkiller Base.
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>>85993853
I blame Kasdan "go so fast no one will notice" Lawrence for that honestly.
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>>85993530
>government military organization, the total of which likely numbered in the millions
The First Order isn't a government, they're a small fleet led by emotional teens that happened to have Imperials as parents.
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>>85993381
>and Captain Jack got an overly-sexualized "progressive" spin off show that I unironically loved
The annoying thing about Jack Harkness was how he started off fucking anything that moved, but then they turned him into gay-only.
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>>85993796
It's Bayz
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>>85993921
Eh, I think he and Abrams share the blame. Abrams does had a tendency to have things happen in a story solely because it'd be cool and not really worrying about whether it actually makes sense. And in fairness, the movie did avoid a lot of that stuff for the first two acts, it just goes full stupid when Starkiller comes into play.
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>>85993853
The thing about Starkiller is Finn goes there for an emotional reason, to save Rey. The Resistance goes there for a fairly good reason, so they don't get blown the fuck up.

But the story doesn't need to go there. The story needs to sit around for R2-D2 to wake up because apparently no one else in the Resistance has a Goddamn atlas.

So we had two out of three reasons to see the fight, and at the time it works and makes sense, but looking back you say "but none of that did anything"
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>>85993926
>The First Order isn't a government
The First order was, at first, a political party within the New Republic, attempting to assimilate the old Empire into the new way of things, but they didn't like that shit so they took all their people and fucked off. Turns out the group that wants to shoot things got all the weapons research people.
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>>85993990
>>85993921
To expand on this, Lucas is much the same way. It was always his idea that people came to Star Wars for special effects, so he'd always try to put in more and more. Gary Kurtz is the one that would always reign him in and keep him on track with a story that worked and wasn't stupidly busy.
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>>85972991

>literally a case of me and wife's son

Why are clones such cucks?
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>>85994096
they have no genitals
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>>85994090
George was also to keep Kasdan in check. He wanted Lando to die at the Sarlacc pit for example, but George told him no.
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>>85994096
He said they're HIS children though. Even if they aren't biologically, he acknowledges them as his own.

>>Why are clones such cucks?
You don't know what that word means.
>>>/pol/
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>>85993225
>Liking Moffat
Confirmed shit taste, I'm sorry for you Anon
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>>85994186
Wasn't Luke's "now I am Darth Vader" thing also Kasdan's idea?
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>>85994186
Well Han was supposed to die in Jedi too, Both Harrison and Kurtz felt it was a good idea and would add some emotion to the thing. George wanted the movie to be more kid friendly and not be as serious as Empire was.
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>>85993381
Don't forget the white male Time Lord general that regenerated into a black woman who then directly after commented, "how can you manage all that ego?"


I hate Moffat so much, and I'm glad he'll be gone by series 11.
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>>85994240
not as likely, since he's there for screenplay, not story.
Most of the story of Star Wars was knocked out by Lucas and Kurtz, with Jedi being written while Empire was filming, iirc. That's why Kurtz knows a lot of the story (and talks about helping Lucas write it) while he had nothing to do with the actual making of Jedi.
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>>85994240
IIRC, it was Lucas's idea, but when he pitched it to Kasdan, Kasdan agreed that it was a good idea and they should go with that. Lucas then decided it was a bad idea.
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>>85993061
My favorite is still Momaw Nadon, whose EU backstory was that he was a pacifist (and the card packaging even mentioned this in his bio) but he has the biggest gun in the entire line (not counting stuff that actually fires little missiles, etc).
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