Why aren't you supporting based Newgrounds, /co/?

not much on there worth supporting

all my fave artists use twitter, youtube or tumblr

I prefer hyun's dojo. The game jams are the only thing bringing me back.

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>want to support it
>mfw wallet can't step up to big donations
I feel like 3 dollary doos ain't enough.

>based

Did you mean to type "past its prime"?

>>85943726
Because the early 2000s ended and most of these old Flash sites are dead and gone, and the ones that aren't are on their way out. Nu-Internet has no place for sites like that anymore

>>85943898
The only reason it can be considered "past it's prime" is because of all the people that left it for youtube. There are still a lot of quality artists coming to the site, and the site itself is still great.

>>85943726
The flash games went to steam. The flash videos to youtube. Nothing is left. The site is dead.

it's weird to think kids and teenagers used to spend so much time working on animations just for the hell of it, even though most of it looked like shit.
does a community like that still exist in that age group? or is it all lets play videos?

>>85943982
>youtube
Flash animators aren't going to youtube anymore ever since they changed the monetization model. People still frequently upload to Newgrounds. Some even make it a thing to upload to Newgrounds only. It's by no means a dead site.

>>85943898
Make NewGrounds great again.

Didn't they recently hide all the porn to attract advertisers?

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>>85944059
this is true
NG may not be as active as it used to be, but it's by no means a barren wasteland.
loads of old folks that used to populate it, like oscar johannson and whichever demon that made foamy, are heading back to it, or are at least planning to. the group that made there she is!!, the guy that made bitey, and probably a couple more in a few weeks or months
rob denblyker pls come back
i need joe zombie 7 to be real

>>85944059
Funny thing. I've been making more money streaming my animation work on youtube then ALL my videos combined (and my animations have 200k to 20 million views a piece).

I expect once i finish the animation im working on and upload it, it wont make 1/10th what the streaming revenue has. Blows my god damn mind.

>>85945510
Arin?

>>85945851
Nah another animator. Erin doesn't animate anymore, and he never wanted to be one either, he always wanted to be a VA. Just to get noticed he did animation work.

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>Zhu_Zhq will never finish XiaoXiao

>>85945865
Too bad, him and numa numa made NG my home back during dial up days.

Keep up the awesome streams man, hope i watch one.

>>85945928
The series ended all the way back in 2002 didn't it?

Did Zhu die or did he just get tired of making episodes?

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>>85944022
>>85943941
>>85943726
Which generation had the better teen years?

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>>85945928
i feel your pain, anon
take this to soothe your soul

>>85946049
Last time I heard about him he was animating commercials in China or something.

I dont know if I should be sad or upset that this flash animation era started and also died with us.

I remember losing my shit when I discovered this website and finding the porn games too. What's it gonna be like for kids now?

>>85947213
are you kidding? most kids watch people play games or watch surprise egg videos.
there's nothing wrong with watching let's plays, but i feel like it heavily discourages younger kids finding more entertainment besides it

>>85945510
Rubber Ninja, is that you?

>>85943726
Because 2004 was 12 years ago, grandpa.

>>85947597
It's so strange to hear kids day that they dream of being YouTube Let's players. I wonder if it will still be viable in a couple years.

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>>85948170
>You're old for liking a less relevant site after it's prime xD

>>85948193
Looking at what youtube is doing, probably not.

>>85948193
It's not even viable today. Anyone with a decent amount of charisma is gonna do something far more productive for money than playing video games, and even if you do get popular you have shitfaces like PDP who have legions of fans that will downvote/flag your video because fuck you.

It's an ugly field and it's best nobody bothered getting into it.

>>85948193
Google is actually LOSING money from Youtube. Makes you wonder why they bought it in the first place.

>>85943726

imagine if newgrounds becomes super popular due to youtube going to complete shit

>>85948565
That would require them switching the site to html 5 and it would also require them to allow non animated content. Although iirc they already do have that as cameraboii's Harry Potter abridged were uploaded on there.

>using Newgrounds for cartoons

No way. Newgrounds was always for gaming, it's /v/ territory. Even then other sites have better games. Newgrounds is mainly good for nostalgic games like that one where you torture the doll or that burger making simulator starring Bush iirc (and even then Papa's Arcadia is superior).

>>85948443
Youtubers are making money off of sponsors so both parties benefit by cutting out the middle-man. I think Crunchyroll pays $5.00 per new subscriber. Audible probably pays more.

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>mfw this was basically the ending of the series, but then he made episode 7.5 after it and said he wasn't finished making them, so I've been waiting for an 11th episode for five years

There will never be a Perfect Kirby 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggr7_AvbHzo

>>85948914
for some reason I always thought madness was a lot bigger than it actually is. Or maybe it was at some point? Certainly one many things on newgrounds that had a fervent fanbase but faded with time

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>>85948914
>>85949418
>There are people younger than Madness Combat 1 who post on this site

>>85948951
>someone besides me remembers that

>>85948805
I used to mostly browse Newgrounds just for the video game sprite flash.

>>85944214
That's a pretty stupid move. They made a reputation with mature content.

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>>85949469
>there are people younger than joe zombie that post on this site
>there are people younger than castle that post on this site
>there are people younger than bitey that post on this site

>>85949617
i wish they kept them segregate their audiences for those who want both porn or non-porn related stuff

Favorite classic Newgrounds video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdwze-Wj6_4

>>85943726
its not very based

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>>85948565
Then they'd be bought or strongarmed by the copyright mafia, and suck just as bad. Popularity ruins anything on the internet inside a year.

>>85949898
most case orginal animation dont face copyright strikes

>>85943726
It's quite dead and its sense of humour doesn't appeal to me as much anymore.

I regret not supporting it years ago by making some of my own awful content.

>>85950242
you still can there is a demand for animation be it 2d or 3d it just can't relie lol so random or funny meme

>>85950186
There has been rampant copyright claim fraud for the past year or so.

>>85950461
for your own animation? i know for other stuff like doing the same thing someone else did or just for saying something familiar

>>85944022
It is all Let's Play kiddies.

>>85943726
Fond memories, /co/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpZC1bKfX8

if someone has it i would like a gif of shotgun guy.

don't forget
"the stupider that people think you are, the more surprised they will be when you kill them"

>>85943726
Because It's not 2002 anymore, and I'm not a high school kid gunning down the Bear in the Big Blue House anymore.

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Newgrounds will return hopefully

>YouTube is fucking everything up again and some people just can't deal with it anymore
>after a certain point you have to pay to continue uploading music on Soundcloud
>DA is filled with god awful fetish shit and restrictions against porn art for some reason
I can't think of anything for Steam though

>>85954782
Fetish shit is always a big draw, though. People love a freak show.

>>85943726
FACT: NEWGROUNDS WAS FUNNY WHEN WE WERE ALL 12 LIVING IN THE SUBURBS LISTENING TO LINKIN PARK WATCHING DRAGONBALL Z DRINKING PEPSI WHILE PLAYING HALO CO-OP ON THE EASIEST SETTING DURING WHICH WE CONSUMED DORITOS AND LOOKED AT PAINTBALL GUNS ON EBAY IN INTERNET EXPLORER CONNECTED THROUGH AOL ON A 56K MODEM BEFORE HOPPING INTO OUR BALDING FATHERS' LATEST MIDLIFE-CRISIS-IMPULSE-SPONSORED JAPANESE-BUILT SUV TO HEAD TO THE MALL AND GET MORE SKATEBOARDING SHOES AND THIRD-RATE IRREGULAR LEVIS AND MOUNTAIN BIKE PARTS BEFORE HEADING HOME, VOTING DEMOCRAT AND MASTURBATING TO THE LATEST SEARS CATALOG WHILE HUFFING PAINT IN YOUR GARAGE BEFORE TALKING TO PEDOPHILES ON AIM PRETENDING TO BE WHATEVER CAMWHORE THEY'RE RANTING ABOUT ON MYSPACE WITH A MATRIX QUOTE/ANIME CHARACTER NAME/TRIPLE SIX-ASTERISK-PARENTHESES-SURROUNDED SCREENNAME BEFORE HEADING TO YOUR SUPPOSED "GOOD SCHOOL" IN THE MORNING TO BUY MORE POT TO SMOKE DURING YOUR COUNTER-STRIKE LAN PARTY WITH JIMMY AND THE REST OF HIS FRIENDS TAKING RITALIN AND ADDERALL AND PROZAC EIGHT TIMES A DAY BEFORE TAKING A CASUAL PASS AT LOCAL, STATE OR NATIONAL GOVERNMENTAL FIGURES, LEGISLATURE, OR STRUCTURE TO APPEAR EDGY AND INTELLIGENT IN FRONT OF YOUR BUDWEISER-SNEAKING, LIMP-WRISTED, NEAR-TO-COLUMBINE SOCIOPATHIC "DEEP" FRIENDS WHO PLAY THE VICTIM WHEN THEY START LOSING ARGUMENTS SIX DAYS BEFORE THEIR BOTCHED SUICIDE ATTEMPT SIMPLY BECAUSE SCHOOL TRAMP NUMBER TWELVE WOULDN'T GO UNDER THE BLEACHERS WITH THEM TO LET THEM GET TO SECOND BASE BEFORE THEIR THIRTEENTH BIRTHDAY.

>they will never continue making 8-bit Theater animation

Feels Batman

>>85954782
>Newgrounds will return hopefully
The format is off and they'd have to center around a larger range of filetypes
Hopefully they could open up a homemade app center that could let people publish smaller ios/android games and/or better quality videos with some sort of html5 player

>>85955183
>FACT: NEWGROUNDS WAS FUNNY WHEN WE WERE ALL 12 LIVING IN THE SUBURBS LISTENING TO LINKIN PARK WATCHING DRAGONBALL Z
This is when the fact ends and the projecting begins.

>>85955183
Damn it. I wanted to post that.

>>85949898

yeah look at 4chan

i swear the newfags get worse every year

>>85943726
Played my first porn games there, brings back memories.

>>85943726
Went back there yesterday, surprised there were still people uploading content to it. Still have some talented people uploading there too.

>>85948289
YouTube's been doing the same thing that it's been doing for a while. That "advertiser-friendly" shit has been in their ToS for a while now and it's been enforced all this time. It's just that now they're being more transparent about demonetizing things by sending creators notifications and adding an appeals process. This has brought along with it the revelation of yet another YouTube automated system that fucks up and sees false-positives all over the place.

The idea that YouTube is going to demonetize everybody's shit for cussing or discussing sensitive topics is fucking stupid. The site's biggest creators should be talking about the facts and asking YouTube to do better and improve their systems, especially their appeal systems, but instead they're capitalizing on it and riling up their retarded communities into yet another "YouTube is ruined!" shit-show and raking in all those sweet views and subs.

>>85944340
>joe zombie

Fuck you for reminding me.

>>85944340
>oscar johannson
Woah. Is he going to continue Castle?

>>85960986
Yep
In CGI

Think of all the stuff that will be lost when flash stops being blocked by every major browser.

>>85946069
gen x

I had 14k forum posts before my account was deleted.

I don't think I ever went to the flash portal

>>85948565
They won't be a bad alternative actually. Especially when the TPP hits, Newgrounds once again will be one of the few sources of new content now that all that copyright shit is behind a paywall now.

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who is your favorite forumer?

>>85943726
Because I'm not 15 anymore.

>>85961916
JadeTheAssassin

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It really makes me upset that they moved to a html 5 based player. I absolutely understand why they did it, but so many interactive elements of many flash films are lost now. Loading minigames as the swf loaded up, random shit being clickable in the background or Easter eggs that could only be seen if you zoomed in really close.

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>>85961916
>>85961821

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I'm not sure if anyone remembers who Rtil is, but he was a really talented animator who was pretty critical of newgrounds and egoraptor back in the day. A while bacl someone sent a message to his tumblr regarding Newgrounds and he replied.

http://rtilrtil.tumblr.com/post/148908847721/was-watching-your-old-stuff-on-newgrounds-and-i

>i’m not exactly heartbroken over it, the only way i coped with being part of such a horrible community was by constantly satirizing it. and when that got old i decided to leave, and i was much happier having done so. that was back in 2011.

>Newgrounds was a great place for animators before people got spoiled by instantly buffering video and the rise of YouTube. and even though it’s adapted now, it’s too dated and they waited too long to do it.

>nowadays if you’re a new animator it’s easy to get overwhelmed looking at how much content there is now, but it’s still possible to break out. the only difference is that back then, content sites did the promotional work for the creator - now it’s the other way around. even if your work is incredible, if you’re not going the extra mile to target the right audience, nobody will find it. Youtube’s cold, unforgiving algorithms are actively working against the underdog, which Newgrounds always tried to circumvent with hand-picked, curated content (even if it didn’t work so well). I guess that’s one thing about NG i might actually miss.

>and no, Ego and i never got along for good reasons, and i have no interest in pretending that i could.

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>>85948914
Don't worry anon, the game surely will come out

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>>85962047
Man I forgot about the whole Egoraptor vs Rtil drama back on Newgrounds. I used to think that Rtil was a real asshole who was just jealous that Egoraptor was more popular than he was, but in hindsight everything he said regarding him was absolutely correct. I wish I could go back in time and apologise to the guy.

>>85961971
>>85961976

my other personal favorite is probably doctorstrongbad

>>85961972
Not to mention how shitty the html5 player is. It seems like any time I skip to a specific section there's a 20% chance that the video will permanently lock into a 'buffering' loop and I'll have to refresh the page, which is really fucking frustrating when I'm trying to find a specific part in a video or replay something.

>>85962272

>bonusstage
>williwowza
>Burnzoid
>Scottmale24
>EyeLovePoozy is a faggot
>Miniman
>ToxicSquirrel
>HotActionYiffFur
>Yodd
>M4sterM1nd
>SuperSexyActionFurry
>Maus
>Minion777
>SlipperyMooseCakes
>Dark6

all i can remember in my crew anon, guess which one i was

>>85944214
>shitty stick figure porn
And nothing of value was lost

Big name animators and quality series aren't even half the fun of Newgrounds, though. NG used to be good because it was an unmoderated cesspit of the internet not unlike 4chan. Turd of the Week, shitpost flashes, amateur hentai games and sprite animations were what made NG so fascinating. Then Tom just kinda went "we web 2.0 now" and tried to turn it into this big serious artist networking thing except the career artists would now rather be earning money through Patreon and everyone else got alienated. Casual Flash also pretty much died everywhere in the process. All this isn't likely to be fixed by any amount of money.

>>85943726
I listen to Sleepycast and donate to their patreon which is kind of like supporting Newgrounds since some of them work there

>>85962674
You have no idea what you're talking about.

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>>85943726

Because next week I'll be 22 and these times were Golden back in early 2000's.

>Tfw Adult section
>Tfw Sonic RPG
>Tfw Madness
>Tfw Thing Thing
>Tfw Sprite Fights/Animation at its PRIME

I can NEVER go back...and its more tragic each and everyday.

>Tfw EgoRaptor was THE MAN
>Tfw Who the fuck is SUZY?!

...Adult Swim runs FLCL,Blue Gender, Ghost in the shell to my upper right while I browse Newgrounds on my Desktop.

>Cowboy Bebop comes on
>3,2,1, LETS JAM

...TAKE ME BACK

>>85963063
None of that money is going to supporting the NewGrounds site though

Reminder that people are still posting great work on Newgrounds http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/699184

>>85962575

How could you forget AshfordPride and CryogenChaos? They were integral to the crew!

>>85963646
>Thing-Thing
>Sprite Fights/Animation at its PRIME
Mah nigga. I loved that shit back in the day. Hell, I wanted to make my own animated sprite series. Still kind of want to actually.

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I have three accounts and all of them have supporter status.

>>85964151

cuz i have a hard time remembering things especially from a decade ago

>>85964486
>Clock
>Not Lock

Weak sauce boy

>>85964967

>clock
>lock
>not ss

baka

>>85963646
>and its more tragic each

>>85964926

I don't blame you, until you brought it up I completely forgot about bonusstage and HotActionYiffFur. Hell, the only reason I remember scottmale24 even vaguely is because he had that webcomic that lasted like a year

>>85962047
>A while bacl

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>>85953376
oh god...

I missed all of this...

>>85955342
this, they're known as a flash site despite migrating to html5 video years ago

>>85948259
wait
is that lord mol..

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>>85970473

Newgrounds as a site is great. The "higher ups" or big names like Stamper, Spazkid and Johnnyutah nowadays are nice enough to help people get a boost here and there

The majority of the community is garbage. I used to love newgrounds, i still animate to this day, i even attended picoday.

As i said the big names were great, accommodating, friendly. Made ya feel nice when they weren't swarmed by everyone trying to befriend them

There were a few gems here and there outside that circle of content creators. But for the most part it was people that have made 1 or 2 cartoons that did well, thought they were gods and only wanted to shit on other cartoons. Most of the people i interacted with led with jokes at others expense or just "hey do you guys hate this toon cuz i do, lets mock the creator who isnt here"

Plus everyone looks up to all the sleepycast people who mock each other because they're already good friends, and think "hey if i treat people like shit, ill be funny and popular". Fair assumption nowadays but its just birthed so many content creators that would rather trash an artists reputation rather than build up their own

Tldr; the site is still great, the community is garbage

>>85971328
>lets mock the creator

>>85953376
It hurts.

>ywn be a flash animator
>even if you could animate, nowadays you've got to shamelessly self promote to get any attention at all.
oh well

>>85974307
>i'm gonna make a bunch of shitty excuses instead of trying to make something
>who cares i wouldve had to whore myself out anyway, pshaaa

>>85946069
Why is the Gen Z guy's head on fire?

>>85943726
I don't wanna find out all the fond memories I had of the stuff I watched there when I was like 13 were really shit this whole time.

>>85974540
the latter isn't an excuse for the former, they're two independent situations.

mostly because i'm not really committed to the idea of being an animator of any sort, it's just a novel "hey it'd be cool if i could do that", which i'd hoped would've been indicated by a relatively passive "oh well" instead of a more hyperbolic complaint.
the second part is a problem i actually do face when it comes to producing nearly any kind of content whatsoever: the audience won't find you until you're big. before you're big, you've got to go hunt down the audience. it's often just too much effort to purposefully seek out people who'll be amused by the kind of things you want to make. (Because ultimately that's what I enjoy: entertaining people.) particularly when you consider that they're plenty entertained already.

It's thread relevant because it's an awkward lamentation of how things are now that things online are relatively established (and Newgrounds has wained in favour of YouTube LPers):You've gotta pour more and more energy into being heard over the background noise and eventually it's easier to just be quiet and give up than it is to try and claw yourself to the top of the pile.

>>85974679
I am curious how long LPs will continue to be so god damn popular instead of actual content. Once millennials grow out of the teens?

>>85974707
I'm going to wager quite a while. If we wanted to draw pedantic lines, they might be pushed aside by live streams (which allow for interactivity and surprises while excusing lower production values) but I can't see them being displaced by any high-effort content.

The video-game gives you a jump start on attracting an audience in a way you can't really get with more high-effort original content. Games as a whole are always coming out and giving you something new to play over as well. You can't really get that with more high-effort content creation (You do get things like Prequel, which benefit from an established audience for TES, but it works in different ways.)

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>>85974638
>go back to shit i used to enjoy when i was a younger teenager
>almost entirely stick figure stuff and a few other things i probably forgot about
>still enjoy it
>unironically
help me

I used to love NG, signed up in 2003 but I had been visiting the site before that. I had over 12,000 forum posts even. I grew out of it when I got older, but man did I have some good times watching flash cartoons for years and years.

I visited NG just a couple days ago and took a look around- it feels very different, and it seems like it's definitely struggling. The site's life cycle mirrored that of Flash- it used to be the next big thing, now it's obsolete.

RPI Newgrounds ;_;

>>85975436
>RPI

lol meant rip in sorry

>>85975470
Missed a comma there.

>>85965447
>clock
>lock
>ss
>not internet masters

are you gay? are you high? high on weed?

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>>85943726

Just subbed to them. Tom is a bro and needs it.

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>>85953376

>>85948805
I'm going to have to disagree with you there.
I used NewGrounds just as much to watch animations as I did playing games.

>>85953376
I've probably listened to this song more in the past 72 hours then I have since I first played the Meet n Fuck games.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1683

If any of you remember this you had a true NewGrounds experience.

>>85974307
>he doesn't casually shill himself by inserting his animation every time somebody makes an animator thread
>he doesn't try to derail threads towards his animations so he can shill himself.

fuck shame, animators got to eat.

>>85981132
times long gone
but still unforgoten

I am.
Still uploading all of my tracks there and helping out on the occasional animation or game collab.

Turning off my ad blocker for it is plenty for that site.

>>85967568

I am the hayf. Hello anon friend.

>>85977532
>clock
>lock
>ss
>internet masters
>not quitting any or all before it's death

>>85982719
pls don't do that http://assets.wwf.org.uk/downloads/think_of_me_as_evil.pdf

>>85984702
Adblock stops for no one.

>>85943759
>all my fave artists use twitter, youtube or tumblr
Do the world a favor and never reproduce

>>85986228
He won't get the chance.

were flash games ever really a "scene" or did they just feel like they were because I was 12 and playing them at school?

>>85989560
The latter.

>>85989560
games? no
the animation community on the other hand went deep.

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>>85943759
all of those are the worst kinds of platforms for art and animation, get ready for a big post
>tumblr
even though there's a lot of great artists on there that make good fan content and original content, you'll be lucky to find it unless you already know their blog name, or they drew a piece of fanart for a popular show.
like this one japanese guy i like, that draws a bunch of really well made anthro art. there's a piece he did of a cat ballerina that has 15,000-ish reblogs, but the rest of his blog is pretty underlooked.
actually, most japanese artists that post onto tumblr are pretty much ignored or not given much recognition, unless they know english. you gotta be fuckin excellent right off the bat or use popular Tumblr Methods to get up in the thousands, like using a skin disease to be Progressive™.
or draw all of your characters a set ethnicity, especially with humanizations, even if they HAVE no ethnicity. absolutely no white allowed, that's not Progressive™ enough.
>youtube
>implying
they just sent out a policy that fucked over animators and general content creators even MORE, so that one's a big ole' no. vimeo is usually where college animators post their short films and work, save for back in the earlier days of youtube (like maybe around 2006-2012) when a lot of experimental animations were put up onto it. best examples being chainsaw maid, we are the strange and bobby yeah
>twitter
more like the best place to keep up WITH artists.
i follow artists on twitter, but they mostly talk about their own life instead of posting their art, like how they just finished the scans for their comic pages, or their kids' comics.
i can't understand how twitter would even be a good art platform, they're master class at censorship

>>85946069
>self reliant

I cannot believe someone who made this actually thought gen meme who start having Facebook at age 9 aren't dependent

the delusion is real

>>85945510
I'm trying that too. If you don't mind me asking, Is it YouTube ad revenue you're earning or is it donations? If it's the former, do you listen to music while you animate and if so, how do you bypass the copyright bots when doing so?