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Patreanon here, there WAS technically a timeskip.

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>Alt title: /doag/: it's fucking nothing edition.

Since Willis loves his bookends, we're never going to get a resolution to the rally plot.

Every "book" begins with the characters waking up in the morning and ends with them going to bed at night.

The best we'll get is either flashbacks or Amber offhandedly explaining that she just ran off or something.

>>85928044
So that rapist traveled back in time and told a child that looks just like him to harm Marcie? Wow, deepest lore.

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>>85928044
I don't even know why I should care about whatever's going on here.

But I guess it explains this preview panel.

>>85928126
It turns out it's the rapist's slightly older/younger brother. And the next strip will have Sal slashing this little fucks face so that he has the exact same scar as Ryan.

>>85928044
What happened to Amazi-Girl? Did she get fully triggered into some PTSD shit?

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>>85928044
Is... is that Roofie Ryan?

So youre telling me that Sal, Walky, Marcie and Billie knew this guy since childhood?

I legitimately can't believe how contrived that is.

>>85928158
So he's a clone of the time-traveling rapist's little brother?

>>85928145
Oh it's so goddamn obvious that Sal is going to get blamed even though Marcie was right fucking there.
>>85928211
No it's Leeland. Fuck just read the strip.

>>85928044
4th panel--did that chick eat the bristle end of a long broom, or a mustache? because thats one hairy looking set of teeth.

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you guys ive got some bad news

>>85928399
It's Willis. We already knew this was going to take weeks to finish.

>>85928399
On the one hand, if he's going to do a week long flashback to Sal and her parents, then good. I want to see this horrible racism she keeps talking about.

On the other hand, fuck Willis for being a fucker.

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Ok got two strips for you bois today.

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>>85928677
oops, already posted that one.

Ah well, you guys could need some catching up.

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>>85928691
And here's the latest one.

Hopefully the gif works.

Also if you guys haven't noticed, I've put up and ad for college university USA on the Dumbing of Age Website.

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>>85928722
>Also if you guys haven't noticed, I've put up and ad for college university USA on the Dumbing of Age Website.

You magnificent bastard.

>>85928722
>Also if you guys haven't noticed, I've put up and ad for college university USA on the Dumbing of Age Website.

Christ, now I feel a need to make a parody of College University USA and take out an ad on your page.

>>85927935
the guys from menage a 3 are friend with willis right?
they have a lot in common

>>85928807
how would you even manage, it might as well be a parody of itself already

>>85928044
Just out of fucking nowhere?
>REMEMBER THAT TIME WHEN SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED
No context, just a rocky ditch (I think?) next to a playground, and a kid on roller-skates this-is-sparta'd into it.

Also I wish he knew how to draw. He can differentiate between girls and women, but all his boys look like midget men.

>>85928264
>No it's Leeland. Fuck just read the strip.
Not him but I assumed Leeland was a last name, because what the fuck kind of first name is that?

>>85928834
I take the general plot lines and use them to make good stories.

>>85928858
The kind of first name you give a kid who grows up to be a state senator and also a Gunsmith Cats villain.

Why is there, presumably, a ditch full of shattered concrete with rebar sticking out right next to an unenclosed playground?

>>85928264
>Leeland
Okay, it's been a while since I've read any Willis stuff outside these threads. Literally who?

>>85928962
hes nobody, as far as we can tell

>>85928962
>>85929003
wait, no, he is someone
http://walkypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Leland

>>85929030
Either >>85928264 was being sarcastic or he seriously expects me to remember a one-off from Shortpacked who now looks exactly like Rapin' Ryan.

>>85929137
probably meant the new strip, since it has his name in it and all

>>85928942
>Why is there, presumably, a ditch full of shattered concrete with rebar sticking out right next to an unenclosed playground?
Not only that, but it's a schoolyard as well.

I'm surprised more kids haven't died already.

>>85928962
>>85929030
>>85929137
Yeah, I'd wager it's a callback sort of thing.
Though I do have to ask why he spelled it as "Leeland".

>>85928812

I'm told they aren't aggressively terrible human beings and are generally tolerable to be around though.

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>>85929201
Ah, ya got me there. I didn't notice that.

Sorry about that.

>>85928044
Why does she get kicked into a muddy ditch, but land on grass? Why is Walky closer to Leland when Sal was closer and would've charged in first? Why is the teacher stopping Sal and Walky instead of checking on Marcie? Why is she so focused on Sal *and* Walky anyway when the strip doesn't actually show enough of Walky's motivation to know what the hell he even did? (I know the answer to this is racism) Also, ditto to >>85928942 about the rocks and rebar.

>>85927935
>>85928044
What the hell? We're back in the dorms/flashback land?

>>85928044
>>85928145
>>85928399
>weeks long arc deticated to parents are evil
>weeks long arc of Willis telling how evil and racist mix-race couples are

Oh god this is going to be fucking painful. Go back to Amber. Go back to the Church. Hell, go back to Becky. Please Jesus don't take us down this road.

>>85928399
Ah well, guess I can just relax and take a break from the comic to do a Danny/Ethan smutcomic

>>85929720
RF is that you?

>>85929317
dave zero and t campbell strikes me like real assholes

>>85930549
Tell them to stop striking you and call the authorities.

>>85927935
at least most of the comments are mad at willis for the shitty bookend on the DOA website

>>85930571
what?

>>85930605
If he wanted a cliffhanger ending he should have had the crowd split between support for Sal and support for Amazi-Girl, skipped Amber wavering in her desire for revenge, dropped Ryan or at least have him unnoticed in the background, and made the bookend Dina waking up Ethan because she read some of what Amber wrote and is afraid she's gone off the deep end.

>>85930605
For real? That's actually kind of amazing.

Round and round we go, day in and day out. You think Willis is ever gonna' talk about something besides how much his mommy made him feel stupid?

>>85932062
Sure he will. He has to make room for insulting everyone who has a different opinion from him or doesn't know something he thinks is incredibly obvious!

>>85929713
No, we obviously need to learn just how evil and racist Sal's parents are. The more we know, the more we can logically deconstruct it.

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>>85928722
> I've put up and ad for college university USA on the Dumbing of Age Website.
oh man, you glorious bastard

>>85929560
>Why is the teacher stopping Sal and Walky instead of checking on Marcie?

I assume he's drawing on his own experience of being a kid in the 70's and 80's when adults just didn't give a fuck

>>85934096
but Willis was coddled as fuck as a kid by his own admission

>>85934147
Oh well so much for that theory. I guess it's shitty story telling then

>>85927935
> potential rapist
You don't get a Nobel Prize for "Potential Chemistry!"

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Since Willis has a bad case of sameface, what does /co/ think best girl would actually look like?

>>85930605
>>85931458
>Well thats anti-climatic.
>Starting tomorrow; a week of strips where Walky eats McNuggets.

>I shouldn’t have gotten so excited to see Ryan’s ass get kicked…now I’m left with a feeling of emptiness for the rest of this night.

>It’s a good thing this comic updates 7 days a week for eternity or I would be upset.

>This is way too abrupt. It’s not good storytelling. Maybe if it happened before all the Amazigirl stuff. But this is like slamming on the brakes for no reason other than freak the passenger out.
>I dunno, it’s where I would have placed a cliffhanger if it were me. With so many plot threads going on they can’t all come to a rest at once.
>That would be the same as putting a cliffhanger here. http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/hostage-2/

>i…. okay?

>Now we buckle up for six weeks of Joe and Roz talking about fast food before coming back to these plotlines?
>Well, at least a week of Sal flashbacks because we all foolishly asked for that 3 months ago.

>Augh, no, why, I wanna see mentally ill superhero shenanigans, what is this nonsense.

>The cliffhangers and tantalising teasers would probably work better if this wasn’t a daily strip.

Here's one that Willis responded to:
>Williiiis! Why did we jump over here from Sal and Amazi-girl NOW!? … I really hope we go back there tomorrow.
>i’ll think about it
What a hack.

Also, somebody theorized that Mary is going to be Ryan's next victim.

And then there's a whole fucking wall of text for Cerberus' reactions, as always.

>>85935713
> Even Willis's regular fans are giving him shit for this

>>85930465
yes. it me.

>>85935713
>Mary gets raped
>Cerberus is going to bend over backwards trying to explain how it wasn't really rape and mary deserved it

it's gonna happen. Just let it happen.

>>85938204
Could you imagine if Mary got raped, and people began trying to rationalize that she deserved it?

>>85939519
I can see the comments now...

>Carla rapes Mary
>Standard Commenter: Rape is forced sex + privilege, so you see Mary actually raped Carla. That fucking monster.
> Sane Person: What the fuck is wrong with you?
> Willis: No, that's accurate, Mary has always been the devil incarnate since Roomies, so literally anything that happens is due to her evil influence, just like my mom.
> Sane Person: What the fuck is wrong with you!?
>Followed by a ban and Willis tweet bragging about the ban.

>Comic reactions:
>Panel 1: Look at Carla's expression of pleasure and malice! She's been so opressed that she has now become complicit in her own rape!
>Panel 2: Only a complete monster like Mary would be able to take it so deep! I'm getting triggered having to read and jack off to this.
>Panel 3: Why do they keep making stupid faces? It's probably the patriarchy.
>Panel 4: That's really not what dicks look like...
etc.

>>85939519
Like they rationalized her being assaulted by Ruth.

>>85941087
Ruth at that point had started dating Billie so there were still a vast majority of the shippers trying to do damage control for her.

If that had happened further down the line but right before the whole "You belong in the boys dorm" scandal, more people would've been pissed.

>>85941087
What suck is that you guys are right.

Willis's fans are basically saying that violence is okay, as long as it happens to the correct people.

If any of the "likable" characters got assaulted, they'd be upset. But it would be Mary's fault in their eyes.

That actually makes me kind of sad.

>>85941312
It's why we should've known he wasn't going to show the Amber/Sal fight. Too many people feel bad about Amber for him to have Sal curb stomp her like he was originally planning.

>>85939880
Oh god, now I can see Willis making a porn comic off of Mary's rape.

>>85941369
Did Willis say he had plans to show the full fight?
The only recent change of heart I know that Willis has had was changing around the whole thing with Billie and Ruth being revealed as lovers and Walky and Dorothy coming in to comfort them. Or whatever that shit was.

>>85928677
>>85928691
>>85928722
Is this awful on purpose, or is the author just delirious?

>>85942658
both.

>>85941369
I think he'll give us her tragic backstory for ages, then we come back and see Amber beating her up and we're supposed to feel super-bad for Sal because she's so oppressed. Sal smirks the whole time and psyches Amber out until Amber runs off and cries in her room because revenge isn't what she wanted it to be. It shouldn't have been that easy.

>>85941902
But I thought he doesn't edit them??? I mean, he has a three-month buffer. It's just NOT possible.

(Also, he recently admitted to going back and editing some strips where he wanted to have Sal's hands covered with gloves all the time because he originally didn't always have her wearing them.)

>>85943789
No, he'll give us the week long backstory, and when we cut back to real time it'll just be continuing on from where Amber sees Ryan and she tries to chase after him.

>>85930571
>>85930713
I got it, anon.

>>85939880
That would be a Cerberus essay I would love to read.

Ok, I was going through the archives recently (I read the comic with my friends on skype, we read it in silly voices and make fun of it.)

But I noticed while going through it that there was this one strip in the parents day arc that was missing.

It was one where Mikes parents hug Walky while he's in his boxers covering up his dick.

Does Willis just lowkey delete strips too?

>>85945727
I don't think so. Wouldn't exactly put it past him, but I don't think so.

It would be stupid to get rid of that strip anyways. IIRC, the book it appeared in was actually named after it.

>>85945727
It may have only been a bonus strip.
That's actually something you might want to ask Willis about directly via Twitter or Tumblr. See what he has to say.

>>85946472
No, that was on the site. I remember reading the comments groaning about the "Just Hangin' Out With My Family" pun.

>>85945044
Thanks!

>>85945727
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/hugggggs/

>>85946601
>>85946621
>Just Hangin' Out With My Family
Why must Willis sully everything I love?

>>85943789
Was Sal present for Joyce's roofie-ing?

>>85929713

There is no Jesus

There is only social justice

>>85946851
She wasn't, but when they were deciding whether or not to got to the cops the next day she sided with Joyce about not reporting it.

Remember when Joyce nearly got raped by Wormface. But then she shoved glass in his face and turned him into Wormface.

And the comments section were snarking with shit like "Lol but Joyce I thought you were a Christian, shouldn't you be turning the other cheek?" because they hate Christianity?

>>85947966
In the case where someone roofies your drink and tries to fuck you, would turning the other cheek equate to letting them drug you suppositorily?

>>85948254

Only if he made a Slipshine about it

>>85946621
Oh my gosh. Why did I have to look at that set of strips again?

>>85947966
That is truly horrific. What would they have said if she wasn't able to fight back?

>>85932062
When did he start constantly making comics about his mommy issues? He was capable of making regular shit back in the Walkyverse days.

Now everything is "MY PARENTS ARE WHITE AND WORSHIP JESUS OH WOE IS ME" day in and day out.

>>85950545
Somewhere in the middle of Shortpacked is where I noticed it the most. There was that whole storyline about Leslie's bigot parents. Whiiiiiich I realize sounds a lot like Willis's situation.

But that was the first time I noticed a "my mom sucks" storyline of his.

>>85951415
It's funny, I knew somewhere in the middle of Shortpacked, everything suddenly became Willis on his social justice soapbox, but I didn't think it had anything to do with his parents until I read some criticism of DoA.

Seriously though, Shortpacked fell fucking hard. By the end, Willis' complete lack of a grasp of the world around him was so fucking obvious it was ridiculous. The comic's ending wasn't even a fucking ending. He did the same shit there as he did here with the Amazi-Girl/Sal plot. Fucking nothing.

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>>85928044

I feel like "Set up a dramatic Cliffhanger then cut to a really long flashback won't be as successful for Willis as it was for certain other webcomics.

>>85951951
It isn't. Even his own hugbox hates that he's doing it.

See >>85935713

The thing about cliffhangers in media, is that it's usually until the next episode/movie, after some wait or hiatus. If you switch topics while everyone is hung up on the cliffhanger, nobody is going to care about the stupid bullshit you put in instead.

>>85947966
I think I hate the comment section more than Willis, but then I remember it's probably mostly children.

Is this thing even worth reading?

>>85952293
Not really. These threads are for shitting on how bad it is and how batshit insane its author is, not because anyone actually enjoys it.

>>85952293
If you don't enjoy reading something to hate, then no, absolutely not.

>>85952293
With hindsight? Nah mate go enjoy something more worthwhile.

>>85952293

It's competent enough that it makes an enjoyable hate-read (unlike, say, Sinfest lately), but there are a ton of better webcomics out there.

>>85952593
Yes, it's a good hate-read, because it has tiny scraps of potential. It could be a million times worse than what it is, but it's still a trainwreck.

DoA is the kind of comic that has something about it that makes you curious but just tends to fall flat in execution.

>>85953180
Plus there's the occasional bout of Loss level atrocity sprinkled in every so often.

I'll admit, I think the maddest I've ever been over a piece of fiction was at a DoA strip.

>>85953313
Ooh, which one?

The worst I've gotten with it is sincere disgust.

>>85953313
was it the car chase?

>>85953590
>>85953774

The one where Becky and Dina hook up.

Dina was my favorite character at the time, and probably the only one left who was in any way tolerable.
Becky is one of the single most obnoxious characters I've ever seen in anything ever. I was so sick of her by that point that her mere presence was enough to irritate me,

Willis pairing them up was like he had literally set out to ruin the one last good thing he had going for the comic.

That and by giving Becky a girlfriend, this only meant MORE of her spouting lesbian jokes now that she has an outlet for it.

>>85953313
was it the trigger warning?

>>85953876
Wait, Becky's a lesbian?
Gosh, I had no idea. How recently was this revealed? It must have taken her ages to come to the self-realization that she's a lesbian.

The joke is that I'm aware that she never shuts up about her lesbianism.

>>85953876
>That and by giving Becky a girlfriend, this only meant MORE of her spouting lesbian jokes now that she has an outlet for it.
Honestly, I thought she was just thirsty as fuck at the start and was hoping Dina would quench her infinite lezlust. I was sorely mistaken.

>>85953939
to be fair, her coming onto Joyce was fairly well-done, IMO.

>>85953990
Agreed. She was fine even when she first began announcing she was a lesbian. She wanted to come out of the closet with a bang, and she got it.

But when she kept pushing it after her initial "yay!" was when it was too much, and literally everything she did was annoying.

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Patreanon here, I mean I don't know what ya'll were expecting.

>>85954081
>"Get it? Get it?? DO YOU GET IT YET?!?"
>David Willis 2016

>>85954081
>an illegal
Wow, that's subtle.

Also, if Marcie isn't even a student, then yeah, it's kind of her fault for trespassing.

Also also, the implication here is that Leeland (who is now Leland) is White Privilege Incarnate.

Basically, what >>85954143 said. "We get it, Willis; the odds are against Sal."

Also also also, my new headcanon is that Leland is pre-transition Carla. And you can't make me change it, despite that one Patron-only bonus strip with young Car.

>>85954081
>LOLRACISM

Willis is starting to sound like a broken record at this point. Is there ANYTHING in this comic that isn't linked to some sort of social issue?

>>85953990
>>85954054
I honestly liked her when she first came in and even a bit after she came out. But then she kept going on and on and on and on about it. Then suddenly the whole comic was about her. Every character arc and subplot changed gears so that Becky would be involved in some way.

Becky is nothing more than a one-joke gag character, and yet Willis is absolutely determined to make her the most important. And it's not. Fucking. Working.

>>85954081
Has Willis ever talked to an adult? I don't feel like he knows what one talks like.

>>85954081

Sounds like someone had been playing Life is Strange.

Can't touch the rich kid because he's got connections.

Will Willis also catch this is why The Carla also gets away with being an asshole. Or just ignore that.

>>85954081
Nice the police seem to have a phantom presence in the Willis World.

Assault is assault you don't handle it then the cops will.

Singles and Willis will move on from this scene before we see what Sal's mom thinks of the situation.
Dubs and we see Sal's mom agreeing with the Principal while the dad looks a little disappointed.

>>85954257
>Has Willis ever talked to an adult? I don't feel like he knows what one talks like.

He went from living a secluded religious upbringing to hanging out with fellow manchildren toy collectors.

Of course he does not know how people actually socialize.

>>85954081
Check the alt text for the comic on the site today. Whee!

>>85954376
>Leland was just trying to study.

Eat a dick, Willis.

>>85954376
>Check it
>"Leland was just trying to study."
Fuck Willis.

>>85954081
I can't read it. This whole Sal Racism thing is retarded.

>>85954406
>>85954430
Is that a reference to something?

>>85954257
>Has Willis ever talked to an adult?

One that's not from the 1950s.

I mean if the comic is set in modern day, then that means little Sal would have been a kid in like the early to mid 2000s. No way that wouldn't have ended in a gigantic legal kerfuffle

>>85928044
So why is Marcy mute again now?

>>85954224
>Becky is nothing more than a one-joke gag character, and yet Willis is absolutely determined to make her the most important. And it's not. Fucking. Working.
Worst of all, the more we hate her, the more he includes her.

Because, you know, I guess that's how you get people to like something.

>>85954511
He's mocking people who were on Mary's side of the Carla/Mary conflict.
Mary was literally trying to study when Carla started pestering her, and when people pointed this out to Willis, he got butthurt.

>>85954376
He is SO MAD about that, isn't he? He is so damned insistent that Mary can never have a point about ANYTHING, no matter what she's saying or doing, because Mary is a Bad Person and Bad Persons are never right about anything.

Christ, someone should just buy ad space on DoA with a banner that reads "JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A VICTIM DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NOT AN ASSHOLE".

>>85954511
It's a reference to the catalyst of the Mary/Carla conflict from a while back. Mary was trying to study in her room, but Carla was distracting her due to her skating up and down the hallways. Saying that Mary was only trying to study was a point of defense that was ridiculed by those who took Carla's side.

So this is basically Willis' way of plugging his ears and going "La la la, I'm right and you're wrong, shut up shut up shut up". Anticipate "_____ was only trying to study" to become a meme in the future.

>>85954590

She was never the same after coming back from the war

>>85954590
We don't know yet.

>>85954081
This seems to be a semi-decent explanation of why Sal distrusts authority, but not a good one about racism. I guess her parents probably don't have her back, but that's not necessarily a race thing.

The strip itself is pretty retarded considering we're talking about an extremely shitty looking elementary school. It's not like it's a private school or a level of higher learning where concepts like "being a good student" and "having a good future" or a "good family" would actually mean something because of monetary pressure or actual talent. Also, kids that young get in scraps all the time, it doesn't mean they go to jail or anything, right? You just get detention, or something like that. The lady's framing it like this would jeopardize his scholarship or place on a promising team, like it would if it were, say, high school.

I didn't realize Marcie's parents were there illegally. I thought that previous strip where they talk about deportation was more about her race than her actual status, cause Indiana is fairly northern, and I suspect has a low population of illegals?

>>85954376
Lol, what a fucking baby. The situations are not equivalent at all, and I can't think of anyone who would defend a boy punching a girl smaller than them for no reason. Unlike the other situation which was 100% presented as an escalating dispute with both sides being kinda shitty.

all the comments on the DOA site tonight are asking about the open fucking ravine at the playground and how Leeland is the new Mary HItler

>>85954286
That's not far from the truth. Schools also don't give a shit about the details on kids fighting, only that it stops.

>>85954376
Is that because of my little feud with him on twitter or did multiple people say that?

Because I swear I feel this is targeted at me in some way.

Why does Leland look exactly like Ryan? Like, absolutely exactly? Is there going to be some kind of twist or is Willis really that fucking bad at character design?

>>85954922
>the fuck are they playing next to an open ravine anyway
>Indiana schools must not keep their playgrounds clear of hazards or else recess has gone in some werid direction I hadn’t heard of
>I’m less concerned about the drop and more concerned about what looks like random pieces of sharp jagged metal sticking out of random bits of broken concrete. Marcie’s lucky she wasn’t just impaled.

>Is that random exposed rebar?
>it’s a school so… probably?
>I’m not sure I want to know what kinda crappy-ass school has chunks of random concrete lying around and exposed rebar.

>You know, people complain that kids today are too safe, but a playground with a lack of concrete blocks and exposed reinforcing steel would probably have been a better choice.

>Well, THAT’S one inattentive teacher. Looking right at the kid with the leer and fist, the phrasing of his version of events, Walky’s phrasing of his “confirmation”, and she’s probably gonna end up letting Leland off the hook to add to Sal’s trauma.

>Is it me, or is “charisma” a pretty advanced word for an eight year old?

>If I stare at Panel 1 long enough, it eventually becomes clear that the way Marcie’s drawn *is* actually anatomically possible and not weird at all. But upon first glance, she looks like a human pretzel. It’s weird, and I don’t know why my mind is processing it that way. Possibly it’s all the blue, making it look like a Picasso painting?

Here's a theory someone posited that I'm sure won't be close to the truth:
>So Marcie likely got her throat crushed at some point And my theory’s been that Sal tried to rob places to pay for an operation or something.

>>85955057
It's likely multiple people, seeing how he filtered "Mary was only trying to study" to "it's about ethics in journalism".

>>85955075
The latter. Willis has a severe case of sameface, escalated by the cartoonish nature of his drawings.

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>>85955131
>he filtered "Mary was only trying to study" to "it's about ethics in journalism".

>>85955131
I have an urge of tweeting him something along the lines of "Wow, real mature alt text Willis" or "He doesn't want to study, he wants to [witty remark]"

>>85955364
You still have ad space on his site?

Do this >>85954659

>>85955364
I'm sure he has you muted or blocked, but I'd try to hit Willis where it hurts. Something like "I bet Leland grew up to become a successful porn comic illustrator" or something.

>>85955364
I was gonna comment on it, but I knew I would have to tiptoe around calling him a petty bitch while making it clear I think he's being a petty bitch. I couldn't formulate it to where I felt okay about it.

>>85954081
Why is this a Sal flashback when the last present-day strip was focusing on Amazi-Girl/Amber? Marcie wasn't even the center of the shit that was going down

>>85928044
Walky being depicted as a craven coward is a nice touch, because fuck that Uncle Tom, amirite?

>>85955529
Apparently Willis asked a few months ago if anybody wanted a Sal flashback, and people said yes.

>>85955407
Yes I do, the ad lasts two days so this is it's last 24 hours.
>>85955416
Surprisingly I can still see his tweets and tweet to him if that's anything. He must have some sort of weird obsession over me.

Shit, I think I even saying something along the lines of "fuck you" or something similar for digging up my old tumblr posts and making fun of them during the whole Mary Debacle.

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>>85954224
With so much of the cast is gay or bi, what makes Becky special?

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>>85954511

>>85955582
>what makes Becky special?
She's Willis' favorite.

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Is this a good tweet?

>>85955640
Eh. Try again.

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>>85954511
Willis seems like the person to like Jerry the mouse as an adult.

>>85955640
Naw. Sounds TOO much like youre on his side.

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>>85954511
>>85955619

>>85955704
Ok, so how about I take out the last part and keep the :^)

>>85955619

I still fail to see how we're supposed to be rooting for Carla here. Like, even before Mary drops the bomb, we're supposed to be 100% for Carla.

>>85955729
I say come up with something else.

Or steal from >>85955416

>>85955729
No, that makes it seem like you're even MORE on his side. Think like Willis. Go passive-aggressive.

>>85955808
>>85955825
Meh, I couldn't think up of anything, So I just tweeted that tweet.

I mean, I'm probably on Willis' last straw, so I think it's only strategical to get a little bit on his good side just in case there's something serious in the comic that gets me ACTUALLY angry and then I can lash out a little more.

Supply and demand or something like that I dunno.

>group of conservatives automatically assume black woman is a troublemaker
Very cute, Willis.
>rapist returns
Holy shit, this stupid political rally arc might actually have something to it.
>suddenly cut away from it
Fuck.

Why do we keep giving Willis more chances?

>>85955556
What I've learned about how Willis does fiction by anonymous age xx:

1, If people think an aspect is shitty, double down on it, if they continue, triple down. Never back down.

2. Make sure you put in lots of lgbt characters, because people eat that shit up. Only ever put straight or lesbian stuff in the strip proper, though, cause that's what people really want to see, lets be serious.

3. Cling to the past desperately and contradictorily. Deny that past works are necessary, but take pretty much the entirety of your characterization for rarely occurring cast members from previous works. If someone thinks you didn't present a villain well enough, remind them they were villains in the other universe before crying yourself to sleep.

4. Parents are mostly terrible. Use this liberally, but make sure you have a couple of stand out good ones so you can deny the trend.

5. If you have a decent emotional moment, make sure you fix it to put in your wacky one-note characters in! People can't stand emotions without incessant, shitty, out-of-place jokes!

6. When all else fails, just ask what people want and then put it in regardless of pacing or relevance!

Appendix A
After you're done making your work, make sure you go to social media to explain exactly what you meant with the moments in your strip. People could be reading into ambiguous moments or concepts and coming to their own conclusions, and we can't have that! Eliminate all possibilities except for the one you know to be right!

Appendix B: Correction
Entry 4 should read "Parents are all terrible especially dads."

>>85955787

you could even construe it simply as her acting like a rowdy dude

>>85956004
Yeah, some people brought that up in these threads. Mary's remark is so vague she could just be saying "youre acting like a boy" or something.

But I'm serious, I can't wrap my head around it.

We are shown Carla instigating. Mary is literally minding her own business and only says her remark after she's already exhausted all other, more peaceful options. And yet even before the remark, we have to hate her despite her not even fucking doing anything?

What, was she studying up on how to be a bigot? Was she only telling her to stop being loud because she hates trannies? It makes no sense. I'm actually having trouble articulating how bad this writing is.

Maybe you guys should make a thread about Willis on the kiwifarms.

>>85956091
Someone in an earlier /doag/ thread suggested that Willis is trying to depict bigotry and intolerance in his strip without showing anything that would make his readers too uncomfortable...which makes his antagonists seem Jack Chick-esque and his protagonists hypersensitive and aggressive as a result.

At this point, I think the plot of DoA is literally just "whatever Willis thinks the fans want to see".

>>85956091
I don't think Willis likes studying. Walky can't study for shit, Dorothy is supposed to study all the time but never does, Sal tries to fuck her way into good grades, and pretty much the only character who tries to religiously study is Marie in those strips, and she can't. Does he have something against that too ?

>>85956158
I think he already has one.

>>85956434
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/david-walky-willis.13483/

Yup. Been a month since the last post, though.

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>>85956202
>Someone in an earlier /doag/ thread suggested that Willis is trying to depict bigotry and intolerance in his strip without showing anything that would make his readers too uncomfortable.
Definitely.

>>85956836
THE STRIP IS CALLED DUMBING OF AGE YOU HACK!

>>85956836
>"STARVING" printed on Mary's tiddies
I wanna succ them.

>>85956091
>We are shown Carla instigating. Mary is literally minding her own business and only says her remark after she's already exhausted all other, more peaceful options.
What I think is hilarious is that it goes even beyond that. Mary literally left her room just to try to get away from Carla--she even left her door wide open!

She storms down the hallway, which you would assume is her going to the bathroom or somewhere else to get respite.

And Carla follows. She asks where they're going. Mary doesn't want to say anything.

She doesn't say anything until Carla asks a second time.

So we have:
-Carla: is noisy in the hallway
-Mary: asks her to stop and points out that it's against the rules
-Carla: says no and continues
-Mary: lies in the floor hallway to prevent the rule-breaking
-Carla: hops over her, not an easy feat for most people, so it could have been dangerous
-Mary: puts out glue
-Carla: breaking the rules, rolls over glue
-Carla: gets noisier
-Mary: points out that it's against the rules
-Carla: continues to be noisy and tries to tell Mary that she can't yell in the hallway
-Mary: tells her it's against the rules and asks her again to stop
-Carla: says no and continues to be noisy
-Mary: leaves her room in frustration
-Carla: follows her
-Carla: asks where they're going
-Mary: says she'll see
-Carla: pushes the issue
-Mary: makes the vaguely transphobic remark

It is far beyond my powers of comprehension how we should be rooting for Carla.

>>85957617
I think it only makes sense to support Carla if you only read the comic where Mary insults her without any of the prior escalations.

>>85954376
It is taking all of my willpower to not go on to DOA and tear the strip apart JUST because of that fucking alt text.

>>85955619
>>85955728
God, Carla is such a passive aggressive shitter and manipulator.

>>85955896
Why would you care if he reads what you say? It's not like he's ever going to say "Gee golly, after reading that message I realize what an ass I am".

Just fuck it and let him block you.

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>>85956836
> Not making Mary say "that's retarded". Or even "that's the lamest thing I've ever heard".

Good fucking job.

>>85958978
That sums up the character quite well.

>>85959077
Yeah, the original "punchline" just is too soft and assumes the reader understands the negative consequences of "dumb" as a word.

And also, as someone else pointed out, "dumb" is already in the title. So what should the reader take from that?

>>85959100
Double being one of the most privileged people in the comic.

>>85956224

Wouldn't be surprised if he did. He's pretty irrational

>>85957767
Even then it's ambiguous if Mary even knows she is being transphobic. Taken at face value all she's saying is Carla is acting like a tomboy. Hardly a deadly insult in itself.

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>>85959539
To this day, we have no idea how Mary would know Carla is transgender.

>>85959539
Can anon answer once and for all if and when Mary found out Carla is trans?

>>85959923
For a while the comments section was asking the same thing.

Then Willis started banning anyone who asked that and we all knew the answer.

Who the fuck is Marcie? Has she appeared in this shitpiece before? There are too many characters to keep track of.

I keep reading Sal's dialogue in G1 Ironhide's voice.

>>85959903
Bless you.

>>85928722
>Aw geez! She has my husband's ass!
You got a chuckle out of me.

>>85954081
>other two witnesses kept their mouth shut
The fuck is this.
>b-but he threatened Walky
Yeah and the solution to that is to get him suspended.

>>85959903
trans people don't often look completely female, nor do they sound as such.

considering several people have brought up carla being trans despite her not doing so herself, it's likely willis is drawing her as completely female to please tumblr, but she's treated as she would be IRL, with people who aren't stupid immediately noticing..

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>>85961132
Yes, but we have no evidence, either in how Carla is written or drawn that she does not pass 100% as female. Mary's apparently veiled insult is the only reason we know.

>>85961677
IIRC that philipino bitch from shortpacked called attention to her as well.

>>85955931
If only I could be assed enough to go through Willis' backlog and pull out examples. Because goddamn is all of this true.

>>85953876
That was the comic that pushed me over the edge too. The most interesting thing about Dina was that she really wanted to be treated as an adult, but she kept getting treated as a child because of her...condition (let's be frank, it's probably autism, but Willis won't admit it, probably because of the whole 'hates doctors' thing). It was something rather unique in DoA, and it just killed me to see it get truncated because Becky needed a rebound.

>>85955218
Every time I think I really should be that angry over a mediocre webcomic artist, I remember that Willis is the sort of guy who'll casually throw any and all detractors of his work into the same category as gators.

Seriously, what kind of artist just refuses to take any criticism ever?

>>85961934
I think it's confirmed that Dina has autism.
But it's the weirdest, least realistic kind of autism I've ever seen at least. Autism isn't just retaining a childlike innocence into your later years.

>Seriously, what kind of artist just refuses to take any criticism ever?
A narcissist. We've been seeing them a lot over the past few years thanks to the Internet. Interestingly, it may be linked to the rise in numbers of SJW-types as well; it's only a theory, though.

>>85961934
how is it that willis has a wife and child and still acts like a whiny, rebellious teenager?

We've known that Marcie is Hispanic, but was there any indication before the flashback that she was from potentially illegal origins?

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>>85962778
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>>85942658
If you hate it so much, just filter out the name/tripcode so you don't see it.

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>>85954081
>an illegal
WHEN DOES THE FUCKING COMIC TAKE PLACE
HOW DOES THE SOCIAL COMMENTARY MAKE ANY SENSE

>>85962876
oh come on, anon. trump propaganda is eternal and timeless.

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>>85962907
>eternal and timeless.
That doesn't excuse the changing timeframe of the webcomic.
The comic started in 2010, which we're supposed to assume is the year it takes place, and yet throughout the story, 'topical' references are made to things like the Chick-fil-A homophobia scandal (happened in 2012) and a character is seen playing a 2DS (introduced in 2013).

>>85962876
Well, the strip began in 2010 and left the gate immediately with a sliding timescale; it is 2010 in real-time and 2016 as well.

The flashback is supposedly set ten years ago or so, meaning that it is both 2000 and 2006. The Twin Towers are in a state of limbo, simultaneously existing and not existing at the same time.

>>85963043
Don't forget Jurassic World references.

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>>85963067
>The Twin Towers are in a state of limbo, simultaneously existing and not existing at the same time.
That sounds terrifying.

>>85963043
according to willis:

>Dumbing of Age is not set in any particular year. I only say this because every time some pop culture reference shows up, someone is all “OH HEY HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE AREN’T WE STILL IN 2010???” Nope, sorry, we ain’t! The comic moves slow, but it operates on comic book time. This webcomic is not gradually going to become a period piece. Just assume the strip is always set in whatever year it is right now.

in other words: 'I'm a lazy fuck who can't be bothered to keep it set in a certain time so I'm going to throw in all of the current references I want and get away with it.'

>>85937039
do some hourglass expansion of mary

>>85955570
>the ad lasts two days
I'm not seeing it on the website.

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>>85963067
>The Twin Towers are in a state of limbo, simultaneously existing and not existing at the same time.

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>>85962661
>Marcie is Hispanic
I don't remember them revealing that.

>>85954783

>with both sides being kinda shitty

I don't think Mary was being shitty at all, at least not until she--sigh--misgendered Carla. First she asked Carla to be quiet. Then she said what Carla was doing was against the rules. Then she laid down in the hallway, at risk to herself, in order to stop Carla. Then, FINALLY, she retaliated in a "wacky" way with the glue (which, mind you, is no more cartoonishly annoying than what Carla got up to). THEN Carla started stomping outside of her room and taunting her some more. THEN, finally, Mary snapped and actually lobbed an insult she knew would hurt Carla terribly.

It still drives me insane that I'm supposed to sympathize with Carla, Carla only, and not criticize the bitch for antagonizing Mary so much in the first place. Trans people get enough shit just for being trans, it's astonishingly poor writing to make a wildly unsympathetic character and then use "but they're trans!" as a get out of jail free card.

God I hate Carla so fucking much. At least Becky's got an obligatory tragic past. Carla had rich parents who had no problem with her transition and made her the toys she couldn't buy.

>>85956202

Another commenter, after I pointed out this string of strips makes Carla look completely unsympathetic, not more, said that trans people are always expected to act like perfect angels or else they deserve to be humiliated.

I pointed out in response that you don't need to make a trans character relentlessly taunt and torment someone to make them step out of line enough to get misgendered and in fact by doing so for an entire series of strips you give the audience license to wonder if doing so was maybe a liiiittle bit justified.

I was banned shortly thereafter.

>>85963418
Maybe she doesn't speak to hide her thick accent?

Why do you people torture yourselves?

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>>85963668
The pain and anger is cathartic in a specific way.

>>85963210
Really? I do.

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>>85934466
that costume reminds me of this comic
twas good but I couldn't fall that deep because of the german language
gotta keep learning

>>85963982
Maybe it's because i'm viewing the site in the UK.
Screencap the ad so I know what it looks like.
>>85963989
http://sarahburrini.com/en/

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Strip time!

>>85964556
Ah yeah, it doesn't show for the UK, we only had enough for the americas

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>>85964821
Aw yeah, party arc.

>>85963424
I was more talking about them both being implicit in escalating the situation, but you're right. Although confrontation is often considered bad, there's absolutely nothing wrong with confronting someone who is breaking the rules and genuinely disrupting you. And the way the comic presents things, she is genuinely disrupted by the noise. The only thing I would consider wrong from an objective point is Mary damaging Carla's property, and that's like the 4th thing she does and like 1 of 7 things she tries before the trans comment. The first 3 are not only right, because she's standing up for herself and the rules, they're also really restrained for Mary.

Willis basically did a bait and switch with the trans comment by making Mary more civil than she usually is. This ended up making her genuinely sympathetic. And rather than admit that he fucked up he's just gonna whine about it forever.

>>85964821
You got me to laugh with this one. Kudos.

>>85928722
>She has my husband's ass!
I love you, the dewd.

>>85960296
She's Sal's friend from childhood. She doesn't go to IU with the rest of them, but she comes and hangs out with Sal. She also wants to bang Malaya.

Just check the character tags to see more of her.

>>85962211
>I think it's confirmed that Dina has autism.
Willis says she's never been diagnosed with anything. I think he's going to refuse to do so for now.

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>>85963160
To be fair, sliding timescales have been a thing for a while... you just need to move things forward eventually (see also, that time in the 70s when Robin finally became the Teen Wonder) or else it just gets silly.
>>85964831
"scoiety"

It's "your", not "you're"

There's a hypen in "well-being". Like Spider-Man!

I honestly do love your strip, but you do need to just give it a once-over before posting it here.

>>85968512
I'm glad that in our glorious brave new world we outlawed being sad.

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>>85954081
>WHITE
>PRIVILEGE
>RACIST
This is dumb. Also, subtity is lost on Willis.

Also, it's not Sals fault she's a criminal, it's WHITE PRIVILEGE'S fault.

>>85964831
>Hey, Darkette! I totally get you now! You're trying to stop Darkette!
Um... She wants to stop herself?

>>85969688
Man, that BLM person looks stoned as fuck
>How did I get here?
>Something seems...off

>>85968819
It's because he's playing her off as being quirky and unique. If he straight-out calls her autistic it means he was using her disability as humor, which would be offensive.

Kind of like Jeph's new character.

>>85968149
>>85968512

Posted

t. tumblr anon

>>85970296
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

There's also the fact that making an Asian character who's short, socially awkward and knows basically nothing about sex is kind of racist.

Willis relies more on stereotypes than you'd think, and you'd think that more people would call him out on that

>>85969891
I'm just trying to figure out of that's a big-headed dude or a big-headed ugly woman?

>>85970717
Yeah, you'd think someone would have noticed the huge stereotype there.

The main black guy is tall and broad-shouldered.

The Gender Studies teacher is a lesbian.

The math TA wears a bow tie.

The black girl is sassy and independent.

The primary lesbian is loud and verging on butch.

And that's to say nothing of the stereotypes surrounding Sal.

Btw, has anyone actually (recently) met someone under the age of 30 named Sally?

>>85971523
Yea, I went to school with a girl who's about 26 named Sally. Names tend to follow a cycle of popularity based on people naming children after grandparents/great-grandparents.

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>>85971523
>Sally?
>>85971601
>Sally

>>85969373
Thanks!
>>85969717
Ah geez, meant to say saudra, sorry.
I made these two comics right before taking a nap.

>>85971523
Eh, Sarah's more 'intrinsically cynical' than sassy and independent, but yeah, you get the drift.

There's also the fact that, despite his support of gay characters, he's pretty bad at writing them as human beings rather than 'my whole character is my sexuality'. You have Leslie, who's in gender studies and only plotline concerns fucking a hot Republican woman; Becky, who's Becky; Daisy, who's thirsty; and Ethan, whose whole plotline is based around how comfortable he is with his gayness. And when you get to the bi characters, Billie and Ruth have been tied up in their relationship for most of the comic, Danny hasn't done much after realizing he's bi besides coming out to Ethan, and Dina's plotline got shafted as soon as she became Becky's rebound

Apparently, only straight people can have plotlines that don't revolve around who they want to fuck

>>85971973
>Dina's plotline got shafted as soon as she became Becky's rebound
Her chapter could have been good if it didn't revolve around Becky.

>>85972650
A lot of plots got shafted in favor of Becky.

Joyce's plot in particular now basically revolves around being Becky's yes-man and keeping her happy.

>>85973096
It's sad that so much of Joyce's plot is focused through Becky's eyes. I'm honestly surprised he's still pretending Joyce is the main character.

>>85968149
Wait, Claire and Marten broke up, and now Claire's dating an actual Chad?

RIP /qcg/'s hopes and dreams, I suppose.

>>85971857
>low-riding denim shorts
>hip-riding thong
I'm going to guess that this is an edit.

>>85974734
>>>85968149
>Wait, Claire and Marten broke up, and now Claire's dating an actual Chad?
>RIP /qcg/'s hopes and dreams, I suppose.
Clinton went to his mom's house. His mother had a guy over. Claire and Marten are still together.

>>>85971857
>>low-riding denim shorts
>>hip-riding thong
>I'm going to guess that this is an edit.
It is not an edit.

>>85974783
Oh, my bad.

And if that's not an edit, then that's also certainly not allowed on college campuses, at least not without somebody trying to drop a pencil between her exposed ass cheeks.

>>85975055
Everyone who's tried probably has a broken arm. (Haha, no, it was probably never even considered by Willis.)

My sociology professor told us about this one guy who always came to class shirtless. Wearing that little clothing isn't recommended, but some classes won't outright ban it.

Needs more Becky

>>85976398
Where is she?????

>>85961132

It's been suggested by Capcom that Poison in Final Fight was trans.

But no process in the world could ever make a man look like THAT.

>>85961734
>philipino bitch

NEVER, under any circumstance, trust Filipino women.

EVER.

Around Flips, never slip.

A little under an hour left to go.
Since Willis implied that this series of flashbacks will last at least a week, we can assume that we won't be snapping back to reality any time soon.

I predict the next strip involves Sal leaving the principal's office only to run into Leland who is outside. Aware of his White Privilege™ and his invincibility in the eyes of the principal, he laughs at Sal's misfortune. Sal responds by punching Leland in the face, possibly knocking out a tooth. I'm sure Sal also delivers a stinging one-liner, since Willis needs to include a punchline in his strips lest he literally become "Funky Winkerbean".

>>85977575
But Anon, I'm in love with a friend who is of Filipino descent.

>>85974734
>>low-riding denim shorts
>hip-riding thong

Willis usually just draws Sal with her clothes showing off parts of her body in exchange for really drawing her with that much of a figure. And then Sal takes her top off and it's like whoa, is that even the same character? It makes me think that he leans on short stacks, because the sexy curves are exaggerated and easy to depict compared to thinner sexy curves.

>>85962211
>A narcissist.


Walky is a textbook case.

His first statement at TFWiki was "I am GOD, here!"

>>85954081
Hey.

How come Marcy talked as a kid but doesn't talk now?

>>85977743
This flashback could potentially answer that question, but I wouldn't count on it.

>>85977743
The spectre of white privilege stole her voice via the conduit that is Leland. (We don't know yet)

>>85977460
That was US
She's just canon futa in nipland.

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>>85974783
>His mother had a guy over.

That's not his mother

>>85977604

Be wary. She's probably after your money,

I was in love with one too and she turned out to be a scammer

>>85978017
Nah, we're friends. Well, if I'm gonna be really honest, we WERE friends. Then I fucked up. But I realized only afterwards that I was in love with her.
It makes for a more interesting story than Ethan and Danny debating whether or not to fuck, much less who tops and who bottoms, at the very least.

>>85977972
That fucking tree will never not piss me off. How could he give less of a shit about the background.

>>85978756
Remember the infamous "This is me" strip?
Next time you see it, take notice of how Claire and Marten are stuck in a blue box with no doors or windows.

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>Tfw you're only 10 but already realize the world ain't fair.

>>85979101
>hanging out by a chain-link fence during recess
>wearing white tank-tops
>choking out a white nigga

So Sal WAS always a delinquent, and it wasn't because her parents were racist. Also, Sal may be a sociopath.

Also, I was >>85977604, and I was at least correct about Sal attacking Leland. Also the one-liner.

>>85979101
>Everything *balances out* in time
>Leland gets his throat hurt for Marcie
>Marcie gets her throat hurt for Leland?

>>85979101
Her parents TOTALLY hate her because racism, not because she's been a psycho since an early age.

At least I think it's an early age. Panel one Sal looks like an adult and Leland in general looks more like a midget than a child.

>>85979101
Does Willis just want to throttle someone anytime he gets insulted IRL? I know we're all thin-skinned assholes on the internet, but...this dude has made a serialized webcomic where his "good" characters use brutal violence to get back at his "bad" characters all the time.

This is starting to get unsettling.

>>85979291
>insulted
he kicked marcie into a ditch

>>85979213
I was going to guess that "Everything Balances Out" would be the chapter title, since Willis loves his bookends, but for some reasons it's "Glower Vacuum".

Maybe it'll be the actual book title, which isn't posted on the site itself.

>>85979266
Willis draws kids as small adults. Or he just draws adults as large children.
And yeah, it's supposed to be Ten Years Ago, I think.

Also, if anybody cares to know, we appear to be at least one to one-and-one-half weeks deep into flashbacks; the preview panels that Willis posts to Tumblr don't show a return to the current time until September 14th.

>>85979180
>it wasn't because her parents were racist
It was because *everyone* is racist. Even small children.

>>85979266
>Panel one Sal looks like an adult
Can someone please take Sal's face and edit it onto Joyce? I could see Joyce making that exact expression, drawn exactly that way. But not in flashback blue, I guess.

>>85979101

Okay this is getting ridiculous, someone has to call him out on this. She's a thug. She's a violent, aggressive little shit and clearly always has been. Why are we supposed to sympathize with her?

>>85979592
Maybe its some kinda meta humor. All the people that are supposed to garner sympathy are the worst kinds people.

How is Marcie able to trespass on school grounds without her and her parents getting arrested for truancy and child endangerment?

>>85979101
Man the school administrators are mostly right on this. If a stray kid wanders onto a different school's playground, what happens afterwards is on her. The school won't take responsibility for unknown children. They can maybe punish Leland for violence if, but not if they don't witness it.

>>85979592
Why does every character always resort to violence? These characters solve every problem by beating the shit out of their antagonist. Even goddamn Joyce punched Joe and Toedad in the face.

>>85979592
because shes attacking the guy who attacked her friend?

>>85979977
Shouldn't teachers or some other school personnel notice when children who don't attend that school are hanging around the playground?

>>85979592
>kid kicks your poor friend into a ditch
>adults do nothing
>implying you wouldn't want to choke that little bitch out too
I get why the school did nothing but yeah thats what alot of kids would react to some unfair like that.

>>85980067
Depends how many kids are on the playground. If all of your students are accounted for, you pretty much just assume everyone else is from different classes.

Once there's a problem, like in the strip, you can remember their face and keep them out.

>>85980178
You're right, it is probably more difficult to mind all the kids in most places. My HS class was about 100 people and was the biggest in the school's history.

>>85980142
Yeah. This makes sense to me but it does remind me of the fucking scary tumblr mentality that "some people deserve to be attacked and harmed". For a place that pretends it's all peace and love I've never seen such a group of people quite as willing to justify violence and horrible acts as tumblr.

>>85979101

What if it turned out that if this incident didn't happen, Leland would have soon turned his life around and walked the straight and narrow? And that her little assault here started him on the path to being a rapist?

>>85980693
Leland isn't Ryan.

>>85980693
but anon, he was white before Sal attacked her. Didn't you notice his privilege? He was always destined to be a rapist

lemme just write this down before i forget because it's almost 1am where i am, but i think i have an idea for how to salvage the whole sal/leland thing that i'm certain is going to be ruined within a month since willis can't write a competent plot to save his skin

but the thing about the current flashback is that i'm sure that leland will never return to the story and that his only role in the course of DOA is to serve as a temporary antagonist and White Privilege Incarnate and all that shit

Anyways, what I'm thinking is that Leland has to return, and that Sal has to run into him. The scenario I pictured involves perhaps the two running into each other in the laundry room of the dorm, since not only would it be an easy place for people to meet up randomly, but it serves as world-building in that people do their laundry AND that there are more people than just the main cast in the dorm building.

So Sal and Leland run into each other, and one recognizes the other somehow. "Hey, didn't we go to elementary school? Yeah, I think you tried to choke me out once. Man, I must have been a dick" or something like that. The idea will be that Sal will remember Leland and the shit he pulled, but Leland will have almost forgotten the event, an for the most part have changed for the better. Make him join some kind of civil rights club or become a homosexual, since there's clearly not enough in the building.

You can add in a sob story for Leland about having divorced and/or neglectful and/or abusive parents that shaped his schoolyard ways that he further overcame over the years outside of Sal's knowledge, but ultimately what Leland would serve as is a parallel to how Amber views Sal. If you want, maybe add in a short point where Leland asks Sal about the gloves that Sal wears all the time, and Amber could be down in the laundry room overhearing Sal's side of the events and how she's forgotten how it went down herself.

This sounded a lot better in my head. I'm try sleep again.

>>85980771
I got the gist of what you were tossin' there anonymous tripper.

>>85980142
>implying you wouldn't want to choke that little bitch out too
It's the difference between *wanting* to do it and *actually* doing it

There are days where I *want* to punch my manager in his pretentious fucking face, but I don't... because I'm not a fucking psycho.

Reading the comments on the page... they're practically tripping over themselves trying to one-up each other on privilege checking and trigger warnings.

How the fuck do people like this function in day to day life?

>>85979990
>Even goddamn Joyce punched Joe
From what I've seen of Joyce, I think it was really out of character for her to punch Joe. Even in my most upset abusiveness (I'm a lot better now), I didn't go that far.

I'm a lot like Joyce. Honestly. I think the most I would have done is reprimand him, slap him if he continued after I asked him to stop, and then walk out after slapping him.

That level of anger and hatefulness just wasn't Joyce back then. I can understand her punching Becky's dad. But Joe? That was absurd.

>>85980939
>How the fuck do people like this function in day to day life?
That's the beauty of it anon. They don't. If I wanna escape these people I simply have to leave my house.

>>85980939
You gotta make sure everyone feels bad because you might have had a slightly worse day than them at one point

>>85980854
Children are basically psychopaths. Also does your manager punch little girls into ditches? Cause if he does, you're obligated to do something, anon.

>>85981138
Joyce is a violent fuck when properly provoked.

I like how Cerberus only post reactions when something is overtly political like tonight's strip. I wouldn't be surprised if the therapy thing she said she does with DOA is faked.

>>85981317
>Schoolyard bully pushes little girl
>Put him in a sleeper hold
Yeah, that's a totally proportionate and sane reaction.

>>85980771
I like it. That would be a really great addition to the comic since it would round out the issues nicely. Good idea. I wish Willis were smart enough to do something like that.

>>85980939
Wait, in what sense? What place do trigger warnings have here in particular? Is it because of the very mild playground violence?

I'm a fan of trigger warnings when they're used correctly--they've always been around, just with different names. But I can't see the relevance here.

>>85981357
Maybe she's just supposed to do her reactions for strips that really mentally impact her?

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>>85981386

Finally got banned. Willis gets triggered when you call him an amerifat.

>>85981487
Were you actively trying to get banned?

>>85981386
Is this a misdirected reply, or did you misunderstand my post? Where did I say this is sane or proportionate?

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>>85981487
If you are going to get banned, you might as well have earned it by supporting Mary instead of childish name-calling.

>>85981386
I mean he pushed her into a pit full of concrete and rebar that's by the playground for SOME REASON, it's not like it was in the sandbox.

>>85981487
I have to avoid commenting on infuriating strips because I know how little it takes to get banning, although since I've commented on his stuff for a while and people know me there, I feel like it'd be the one case where people would actually be against Willis for doing it.

>>85982401
They always try to justify violence and psychological terrorism. Not sure if any of us would actually get anywhere.

>>85982338
I guess 'Elf and safety wasn't as strong back then in 2000/2006.

>>85979291
>but...this dude has made a serialized webcomic where his "good" characters use brutal violence to get back at his "bad" characters all the time.
Willis is just a more skilled Chris Chan honestly.

>>85979990
>Why does every character always resort to violence?
Because crazy people like Dave Willis, despite being anti-bullying and harassment, just want to hurt people. They don't want to end bullying, they just want to be the bullies instead.
People like Dave Willis and Moviebob are socially autistic and were bullied in school. They can only be happy in they can cause the same kind of pain to other people.

>>85979101
>>85954081
>>85928044
This is stupid. This fucking comic is stupid. I feel like I've wasted time reading these three strips.
He's trying to make it about race, but I don't think anyone ever thought Marcy was anything but Robotnik-American, and even if she was and this kid kicked her fucking teeth in, the school isn't in the wrong protecting it's student in a fight and questioning why the fuck someone who wasn't a student was even there. If Marcy seriously had an issue with it her parents should've involved the police, and if Sal had an issue with that not happening she should've gone after Marcy's parents and told them to do so. Fucking illegal immigrants don't not call the police when important shit happens, that's not a thing. I feel like Willis might be a little too white bread to be stepping into this deep as fuck ocean of racism he thinks he can wade into. I really hope he drowns doing this and has to apologize.
Also, I really hate that saying someone is "illegal" has become some kind of fucking slur. I grew up in a predominately Mexican area and was fucking raised by Mexicans. Most illegals refer to themselves as illegals. And it isn't wrong, if they immigrated illegally, they are illegal aliens. You could maybe argue that calling them straight up "illegals" isn't really correct, but saying illegal alien sure as fucking shit shouldn't be a slur, it's a real ass legal term.

We all know we're about to get a near identical comic to the one where Sal is sitting in the office and it's just someone protecting the boy again, yeah? And there's going to be some kind of implied racism, but Sal attacked this kid out of left fucking field. She was in the wrong.

>>85971857
>>85974783
Is this seriously not an edit? Because MUH DICK

>>85977575
>>85977604
>>85978017
Just gonna interject here and say: I'm married to a Filipino woman. If anything I'm kind of relying on her for cash right now and it's absolutely killing me. They are not, in my experience, ever after your money as a race. People of any race can scam money off of people who're too loose with it.
Did you maybe go to the actual Philippines where everyone is poor and expect to fall in love and not get scam? Because that's just dumb.

>>85983944
yeah...anon?

philipino hate is a meme, same with jew/mexican/any racial hate on 4chan ever

>>85979101
She should have just followed him home to kick his ass instead of doing it on school property.

>>85982401
They probably won't be outspoken about it if they even care in the first place. Maybe the seeds of discontent would be sown with a few and make them leave after a few months of seeing it happening over and over again, but I doubt anyone would actually say anything about it in fear of being banned.

>>85984032
Willis is probably afraid of showing a minority using underhandedness or cunning to fuck over a bad guy without suffering consequences.

That would remove her victim status.

>>85981422
>I like it. That would be a really great addition to the comic since it would round out the issues nicely. Good idea. I wish Willis were smart enough to do something like that.
Thanks.

It ultimately ties into one of my larger gripes about DOA: The lack of a fleshed out world. For the most part, all we've ever seen are the lives of a certain subsection of students living in a single wing of one dormitory floor... on a campus of 48,000-plus students. The comic feels empty for this reason.

Like, there was a gunman sighted on a 48k-person campus, and yet it wasn't reported to the cops until the first gunshot had been fired? An attempted rapist was beaten with a baseball bat at a crowded party and managed to get away silently? And I'm pretty sure that Amazi-Girl is (or was) treated as a myth for the longest time as well because she operated at night, since nobody is out at night on a college campus.

The world of DoA is so goddamn small, and Willis has gone about the wrong way trying to make it seem bigger. More locations isn't what you need. IF you want to develop a world, develop its people. Even if there's a minor character we never meet again, and even if you don't actually touch upon the following when they're featured, give them more than two character traits, or at least some form of a backstory and/or origin.

It's the little things, goddammit.

>>85980741

In that case, I stand corrected

>>85981357

>>she

>>85981386

Of all the bullshit Sal has pulled, this is probably the most forgivable, considering Marcie could have gotten seriously injured on the rebar or concrete

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>>85985293

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Two more comics.

Also Annabeth and Jack will have there own plot that isn't a parody of anything from DoA, just a neat idea I have. So yeah, seperating this comic a liiiiittle bit more from DoA.

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>>85986399
and now we got Renne being a little DnD nerd and Sarah about to ruin everything.

>>85985569
I mean, you can refer to them as "them" or "it," but instead you want to lie to people.

That's kind of fucked, innit?

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>>85971921
I'm glad you're okay with my impromptu proofreading, but you do need to start doing it yourself because, let's face it, part of being a creator is making sure you're doing it right.
>>85980771
Nah, you did good. Better than Willis ever will, at any rate...
>>85983901
>Robotnik-American
Did autocorrect fuck that up, or is that a reference that went over my head?

>>85983901
>the school isn't in the wrong protecting it's student in a fight
I get what you're saying generally, but one kid knocking another kid into a ditch is not a fight.

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>>85987374

>>85988308
>Nah, you did good. Better than Willis ever will, at any rate...
Thanks.

I kind of feel like what I did, rambling on about a storyline that's sure not to happen, is how we can prove that DoA is chock full of lost potential. It could almost be a writing exercise: Take a storyline in DoA, and expand upon how it could have gone in a different direction that would have served to better develop the world, its characters, and their relationships.

>>85988431
It's a good laugh, is what it is.

in b4 attacking Leland causes Marcie not to speak to Sal ever again until she apologizes, which eventually culminated into Marcie becoming a mute entirely.

>>85988308
So, you mean your ok with the newest pages since you didn't have to comment on them?

>>85986399
>>85989580
Sure!

It's "piñata".

I'm so sorry.

>>85989611
>Apologizing for doing free editing work

>>85989611
Dang, you see, the problem with that is the font I'm using doesn't have an ñ, and I don't think my keyboard can do that either.

>>85989762
It just feels like I'm doing nothing but criticising. I know I'm not really, but still...
>>85990088
Crud. I guess you could photoshop a tilde over the "n"...