Justice League Dark Movie Adaptation Lands Doug Liman as Director

>>85869187
Fuck yes.

It's not dead! Yes! Now I wait patiently to hear who is playing Deadman and Swamp Thing.

>>85869187
Dark Universe book written by a competent writer when?

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Only thing I'm really worried about is if it gets shoehorned into the DC movie universe. Shove Enchantress shit in it.

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ZATANNA

>>85869187
Not really new news. They've been serious about this movie for a while, and now that Shazam is not moving to actual reality (not that it might not, just that the hope of it coming out soon is pretty much not anywhere at the moment) -- so it's important to DC to get their magical/supernatural vision out there with Dr Strange coming out this year.

I actually think this would have been a better movie as the second in the DECU versus SS.

>>85869368
The first three arcs of JLD were OK - they should have spent more time on Books of Magic and developed that a bit more. The main problem was being stuck with and having to deal with The Cereal King's stupid idiotic waste of time meaning reset-button of Trinity War/FE.

Lemire did a decent job. I know people don't like him on team books and I personally found the first arc of JLU to be pretty idiotic, it was saddled with the same problems a lot of people were saddled with which was pretending that these heroes didn't know each other or knew anything about one another, plus the idea of needing to create an original Canadian hero was, at best, pretty stupid. That all said, I though the arc he wrote was fine, it had originality, just didn't use the team that well.

>>85869187
Fuck yeah this sounds good

>>85869397
Enchantress was good though. I want her back.

>>85869808
Timmy Hunter, Amethyst, Shade and Deadman should be the only members

>>85872413
this

>John isnt going to smoke and will probably be less of an asshole
>Zatanna wont wear her classic magician outfit but instead some Chris Angel getup
>Swamp Thing will be nerfed or mimic Groots lovable personality
Ive come to expect the monkey's paw

Will Zack Snyder be involved with the production of this movie on any creative level?

>>85873159
>then Marvel makes a Man-Thing movie that's more of a Swamp Thing movie than a Man-Thing movie

>>85869368
>>85869808
The best the JLD was written was during Future's End, funny enough.

>>85869577
>>85869577
I would do anything for her as Zee.

>>85869187
They better do Hellblazer before that.

>>85873190
Let's hope so.

>>85869577
>>85874290
Well too bad they're casting a black or Hispanic chick.

>>85873159
>>Zatanna wont wear her classic magician outfit but instead some Chris Angel getup
Don't scare me, anon.

>>85874362
We already got a perfect hellblazer adaptation and it got cancelled

>>85873159
>>85874736

>>Zatanna wont wear her classic magician outfit but instead some Chris Angel getup

I don't know. WB gave Harley booty shorts and fishnets, Enchantress was pretty much naked, Katana was showing off her belly and they gave Wonder Woman a halter and skirt with bare legs. Zatanna's outfit isn't that bad considering it's basically a magician outfit.

>>85874897
Idk, man.

There's that ONE anon on here who always talks about how 'outdated' her outfit is, every time she's brought up. Always makes me worried that he/she is a covert WB employee or something.

>>85874960
Outdated in the sense that magicians aren't that popular anymore? It's still a recognizable look that connotes 'magic' to casuals.

>>85875058
Also it looks nice.

>>85875098
I don't see why they shouldn't do it. It's not like it's some weird spandex costume that would translate poorly to film. It's a fucking female magician's outfit, it's just normal clothing.

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>>85874897
But that absolutely sounds like they'd give her some Chris Angelesque gear versus her classic look. All those redesigns you just mentioned were grunged up "realistic" iterations of their other costumes. Showing skin isn't the problem, being a cliche Magician is.

So how will they translate Zatanna's powers to screen? It's easy to see what she means when she talks backwards in comics since you can just read it backwards.

>>85869808
your threshold for OK sets a pretty low bar those are bad comics with shitty art.


Dark Universe was a title set to be written by Tynion IV and Ming Doyle but got cancelled for some reason.

>>85875367
they managed it in Young Justice decently

>>85875367
In Young Justice they just had it phonetically but if they wanted they could probably reverse the audio and make it sound more otherworldly.

>>85874431
You're thinking of Marvel.

>>85876155
There was a rumor a while back that they were looking for non-white actresses for Zatanna.

>>85876155
>mcu
>having more than white guys named Chris and black sidekicks
meanwhile dceu has racebent how many characters now?

>>85869187
just keep it far from Snyder, just keep it far from Snyder. don't even let him look at the trailers.

>>85876620
Sounds like he doesn't want to be involved anymore after JL. Geoff Johns is basically taking over.

>>85876620
>>85876993
Fuck you all. You weren't ready.

>>85877446
You know he's not the only one in the world who can do hypercrisis-y movies right? Some can even do it better than him.

All will be well.

>>85877463
Snyder has balls. You cannot deny that he took a rotting subgenre (capes) and made them different again.
This scene made me believe a man could fly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlINHSnUx9k

And yes, Superman is happy.

>>85877548
He only did what WB wanted him to do, the next person will do it too. He's not special m8.

>>85869397
Enchantress is heavily tied to the jld there first arc was against her.

>>85877679
ok bud
keep forcing yourself to hate him

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>>85873358
Best arc maybe but best single issue was without a doubt #18

Hell the book might have been largly mediocore in general but this was the single best issue of the new 52.

>>85877548
I can't see how anyone could watch Snyder's films and act like he truly got the characters unless you had never read a comic before.

>>85874431
I really dont give a fuck if shes black as long as they keep the personality and costume.

Unlike in comics racebending in films is fine unless the character absolutely has to be a certain ethnicity you take the actor you think has an acting style best suited to that role.

Only member of the jld that has to be a certain ethnicity is john.

>>85877886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQi6PXkj1bo

listen at 30 seconds in

>>85877886
He got superman right this superman makes perfect sense for somebody raised by the pa kent he got so fucking wrong.

Well except taking the fight into town like that in mos.

>>85877937
>you ARE my son
Pa Kent was perfect.

>>85875340
Ok when you put it that way i am a little worried.
Not very worried but unlike concerns about ditching it for something less revealing this has at least some chance of happening.

Really though as long as she has the tophat, the suit and the fishnets im happy.

>>85875367
Generally they just say it and let the audience try and work it out later.

Im more interested to know what sort of powerlevel she will have she does not really have an easily defined limit. Stick to combat and they can probably manage but when she starts turning whole audiences into animals its a bit less clear.

>>85877548
The only good influence he has had on the universe has been establishing early that speedforce aint gotta explain shit.

>>85877953
Maybe

>>85869187

Honestly DC can't fail at this point.

>>85877914
Yeah, I'm not convinced.

He said he wanted to make a Superman movie that delved into the character but then he got the character wrong anyway. It didn't particularly feel like we got super into his head either. He felt more aloof than he did in the Donner movies.

>>85877937
Not really.

>>85878107
Abosuletly nothing wrong with that scene.
It's funny how much it bothers people that Pa Kent admits that he doesn't have all the answers.

>>85878142
And not once has any version of Jonathon Kent implied that it's totally okay to let people die to protect your secret.

You know what at this point i dont even care if john slings spells we seem to be getting a return to form judging from his dcyou and rebirth im just so glad to have proper constintine in comics again i can just tolerate spellslinger in film.

Im guessing this film will be used to tease and guage intrest for the captain marvel film (well as much as i dont like the name change i cant hold calling it shazam against them here considering marvel has theres out soon (well i suppose they have been changing names on titles for ages but they will probably change his as well))

Just please no john as leader everybody bringing up how stupid it was did not make it any less stupid.

>>85878173
>Jonathon Kent implied that it's totally okay to let people die
low quality bait
a symptom of autism is not being able to read emotions

>>85878142
Its fine to not have all the answers.
Its not fine for him to want those kids to be left to die.

>>85878210
>to want those kids to be left to die.
see
>>85878198

>>85878198
See >>85878210

He could've said ANYTHING but for whatever reason, the writers decided that, "Maybe," was okay.

>>85878188
>i cant hold calling it shazam against them here considering marvel has theres out soon

That has nothing to do with Marvel. They legally can't title a movie "Captain Marvel" even if the character was named that in it.

>>85878257
>That has nothing to do with Marvel.
Actually considering it was Marvel who brought them to court over the whole thing in the first place iirc, it actually is their fault.

>>85878257
Yeah i remembered that halfway through writing the post.

Probably should have just deleted the sentence instead of trying to correct myself.

>>85878249
>needs to protect his secret
>Clark asks pa a hard question
>pa *painfully* says maybe

NOTHING wrong with this scene.

>>85878305
Could've said something else like, "Maybe there's another way."

That he says, "Maybe" is EVERYTHING wrong with it.

>>85878332
nope
more dialogue=/=better dialogue

>>85876524
>Deadshot
>Perry White
Missed anyone?

>>85878345
Batman is muslim.

>>85878344
That's not what I was implying. That sentence changes the whole of what he would be trying to say.

>>85878286
True, nothing to do with the Marvel movie I meant

>>85878358
No it wouldn't.
Acting is more than just dialogue. His performance did more than enough to convey how conflicted he was.

>>85878371
Not really.

>>85878356
>Damian is pretending to be Bruce whole movie

>>85878392
ok

>>85878398
kek

>>85878345
Aquaman though technically he's as white as he's always been.
Wonder Woman if you ask /pol/ or a jew who feels like getting on the cross.

>>85878407
>ok
I genuinely think it's scary how so many people seem to openly accept Snyder's Superman as if it's some great interpretation of the Superman mythos when it's mediocre at best.

>>85878582
It's a good, not great, interpretation. But it has scenes (like first flight or the rocket's journey to earth) like blow any other cape movie ever out of the water).

>>85878615
>But it has scenes (like first flight or the rocket's journey to earth) like blow any other cape movie ever out of the water).
Meh

Some scenes, when taken individually, are great.

But the movie as a whole is a jumbled up mess.

>>85878653
nope
sorry

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>>85869577
Hope for fishnet tights.

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>>85869187
>Del Toro producer
At least, finally.

Please Ewan McGregor as Constantine, Keanu Reeves as Nic Necro. Then someday DCEU and CWverse will come together and there's Matt Ryan cameo

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David Lynch does Doom Patrol when?

>>85878615
>>85878686
I will never understand how you guys can think 10 good minutes out of 148 total running length is enough to make for a passing grade.

And that's putting aside the fact that the first flight is basic as fuck.

>>85878936
That would be so good

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>>85869187
>guillermo del toro
yes

>>85878967
The whole movie is good. Those scenes are just some of the best.
And the flight scene is not basic. Supes' joy, the technically exellent framing, and the amazing score bring it together so well.

>>85879005
>Supes' joy, the technically exellent framing, and the amazing score bring it together so well.
That shit was exactly what was basic.
He had the actor smile or the first time in the movie, played some uplifting Zimmer strings, and switched to a warm color pallet.

That's not even actual film student level technique. That's film CAMP techniques I got taught at fifteen years old.

The first flight scene you guys praise has all the ""subtle"" emotional manipulation of that Ikea lamp commercial from years ago minus any irony.

>>85879060
>subtle
never said this
anti Snyder babbies think people are always attacking their intelligence
grow up nigger

>>85879060
And where is your movies?

>>85879089
>never said this
No, I said it. Sarcastically. Hence the quotes. But since you didn't seem to get that I'll state it plainly.

Snyder's filmmaking style never grew past his roots in commercials and music videos. He relies entirely too much on color and score to create mood, and he does so in the most cliched and trite ways possible so that if you're even vaguely in the know of what the cues he uses mean it just comes off as kind of gross and boring.

It's elementary.

>>85879112
I made one shitty student film that didn't translate well to digital format and fuck if I can find it. It's probably buried in my parents' attic or something.

Still doesn't change the fact learning shit like "blue makes audiences feel sad. orange makes them feel happy" is literally day one stuff for babbies.

>>85879165
>Fincher's filmmaking style never grew past his roots in commercials and music videos.
no

>>85879112
This is not an argument.

>>85879112
>HURR IT'S GOOD CUZ POPULAR
>MUST BE A CHEF TO KNOW FOOD IS SHIT
Always what it comes down to wit you /tv/ tards
Superman is too melancholy in the films, he is not a symbol of hope and strength, there is too much personal conflict and strife injected into his character. This does not necessarily make the movies inherently bad but it makes them bad Superman adaptations
>inb4 muh new direction, expanding the character
I'm all for that... in some comics stories or even down the line in a JL film or Superman sequel if I want a Superman film to restart a franchise I want one where I come out of the theatre feeling joyful and hopeful, otherwise I just don't want the character on the big screen

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For the love of god, Matt Ryan as Constantine or this movie is a fucking bust.

>>85869187
>>85869187
>>85869187
>>85869187

>>85879220
>want one where I come out of the theatre feeling joyful and hopeful
If the last scene of MoS didn't make you giddy, I don't know what to tell you.

>>85879232
No, this is warner who has pulled in some high level talent before for these films and can do it again, especially with Del Toro on board
Fuck getting a tv actor when you could have someone like Ewan Mcgregor, or even Tom Hardy (though he may be too much of a manlet)

>>85878305
Because it should not be a hard question for pa kent.

>>85878371
We understand he was conflicted the problem is its not something he should be conflicted about.

>>85879278
>not muh
o i c

>>85877833
>best single issue of the new 52
That's not the krypto issue of Morrison's Action

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>>85879293
>We

>>85879278
>why isn't Pa one dimensional?
because fuck you

>>85879200
Snyder isn't Fincher.
Snyder is Bay without the self awareness.
Or Abrams minus the acclaim and success rate.

>>85879275

The dude's pretty good at the roll you can't deny that. Many of the DC staff have credited Matt Ryan as being the perfect rendition of Constantine, hell the comics have made him look more like MR now.

Ewan McGregor doesn't even do main stream film anymore and Tom Hardy's too much of a manlet to fit the roll.

>>85879303
Snyder>Bay>My Taint>Abrams

>>85879260
How would me seeing him as Clark after he fucked with the military make me hopeful>

>>85879324
>Snyder>Bay>My Taint>Abrams
no

>>85879325
>welcome to the planet
>happy to be here
>grins
>MAN OF STEEL

get out of here with your bait

>>85879275
But Constantine is manlet. He is Lawrence of Arabia of magic. David Bowie could be perfect but this motherfucker died.

Also Hardy is big guy.

>>85879342
Okay, Abrams is slightly better than my taint.

>>85879314
McGregor does enough mainstream films to pay for a few years doing indie work before doing mainstream again. It's a pretty obvious cycle with him.

>>85879325
Same reasons as the first flight scene.
Use warm colors, have Cavill smile for the first time in an hour; it's the recipe to trick plebs into thinking "feel happy!"

Snyder doesn't even hide it well or dress it up. Like how he wants you to think Wonder Woman is badass so you get buttrock guitar chords any time she's on screen. Because that's shorthand for "badass'.
...Even when she's checking her fucking facebook, those fucking guitars.
This is what /tv/ thinks is brilliant, apparently.

>>85879376
>buttrock
dropped
meme hustle elsewhere

>>85879343
Personally I saw him as only smiling because his waifu was there.
They completely wrecked the Lois and Clark dynamic and chose a 0/10 lois btw

>>85879400
>chose a 0/10 lois
Amy Adams is the sexiest thing on god's green earth you humongous faggot.

Way better actress than fucking Kidder or the Returns chick as well.

>>85879399
>See something you disagree with
>Say its a meme

Ironically that's the real meme right there.

>>85879430
But you paint people disagreeing with you as /tv/ posters, yet you spout tired /mu/ memes.

Really makes me drink.

>>85879376
>why does Snyder makes badass scene by making it badass
Wow.

>>85873159
>>Zatanna wont wear her classic magician outfit but instead some Chris Angel getup

What if they did the Young Justice outfit? Are the fishnets an acceptable sacrifice to keep the Classy Stage Magician outfit?

>>85879451
That's snyderhaters basically. A professionals in #mental gymnastics

>>85879489
Hashtag wasn't intended.

>>85879451
Would you rather I call you retarded than a /tv/ poster? Because I'd originally typed retarded but went back and changed it because I thought that it was too needlessly inflammatory.

>>85879523
>Would you rather I call I shitpost than shitpost
all the same to me kiddo

>>85875374
I read the five collected trades all in one batch, about 1.5 years after reading Trinity War/Forever Evil as two trades (the paperback of JL and hardcover of the 7 FE). I consider them crap and idiotic. If you want a rank, I'd rate them a 1 overall, with some beats a 2, 2.5 and highly uncreative. I'd rate Aquaman's first arc as a 3 and I'd rate the first JLD arc as a 3.

JLD never really hits a 4, but has beats that do hit a 4, even a 5 (all the Swam Thing stuff and House of Mystery stuff for example).

So by my criteria, OK.

DC hasn't done anything in the past five years in the prime universe that was better than a 5, so NO my bar is not low.

Tynion is over-rated, FYI.

>>85876993
>he doesn't want

Sure, Zack.

Keep putting that out on the internet.

Soon, people will believe you walked away. Yeah, that's the ticket.

>>85879597
I want him involved honestly.

>>85879296
I did not know that was a thing im gonna go check it out.

>>85879581
I was expecting great things after Lemire's Animal Man and Green Arrow. What happened?

>>85878286
>Marvel who brought them to court over the whole thing in the first place

Anon, read something before you spout out stupid, ignorant shit. Marvel took neither Whiz or Fawcett to court, nor did they take DC once DC purchased the IP in the 1970s.

>>85878820
>At least,
He's just not available to commit to direct - as per usual, he's got 50 hands in 500 pots at the moment.

It's also his script (or the current version Del Toro has completed) that they will be working from.

>>85879427
>Amy Adams is the sexiest thing on god's green earth you humongous faggot.
No, she wasn't even hotter than her villain counterpart
And she does not have the intensity and fire for Lois, she looks like she's trying so goddamn hard. She's better as a more stupid, laid back, or stressed out character. I don't think she's a bad actress, I just think she's trying wayyy to hard.
And she looks nothing like Lois when some good actresses do
Felicity Jones
Emily Blunt
Jennifer Connolly
Eva Green

Fuck even Traue could have pulled off a better lois if she could do an American Accent

>>85879651
>No, she wasn't even hotter than her villain counterpart
But Adams has the mommy factor.

>>85879619
As I said above, I found JLU uninteresting and uninspiring. I'll eventually read the second arc, but reading the first one didn't make me want to read the second any time soon and I have the digital issues sitting somewhere on a hard drive.

I think JLU was a paycheck and JLD was similar. Animal Man was probably more of a passion project for him, and I think he should have stayed on GA.

>>85879581
>DC hasn't done anything in the past five years in the prime universe that was better than a 5
>Morrison's Action
>not better than 5
There's a lot of other titles I think are as well, but this one is fucking glaring

>>85879651
The lighting didn't do her any favors either.
Adams is too naturally fair skinned to be stuck under that blue color filter because it makes her look like 10 years older and really amplified the lines of her face in a bad way.

>>85879669
>in a bad way.
for you

>>85879636
Why he isn't allowed to direct?

>>85879581
Not sure if cancerous charcetrfag or just a shitposter.

>>85869397
They're not gonna run two universes. Even Shazam is getting dragged into it, instead of made as an animated feature like it should have been.

>>85869187
del Toro is only a producer because that was in his original contract and now that the project is moving forward again he retains that title. He probably won't do anything for it that he hasn't already done.

Gilio has very few writing credits (he's primarily worked as an actor according to his credits), but has probably been working uncredited. It's hard to say whether he'll be any good.

Liman is a surprisingly solid director. Looking over his resume I can't identify a single movie I've fully disliked, and I've seen most of them without realizing they were directed by the same guy. If Edge of Tomorrow 2 happens in the same timeframe he'll go with that over JLD, no question. You don't turn down Tom Cruise.

>>85878121
he didn't feel aloof to me, I was able to sympathize with him, sorry you have autism

>>85879666
Not him, but Morrison's Action became iffy after it left the Golden Age. Best of the New 52 is:

Aquaman (Johns)
Animal Man (Lemire)
Green Arrow (Lemire)
Green Lantern (Johns)
Justice League (Throne of Atlantis, Forever Evil)
Superman (Johns)
Swamp Thing (Snyder)
Wonder Woman (Azz)

Though I've been out of the loop for the last few years. Consistently best Superfamily book was actually Supergirl. Pak's Action Comics showed promise until it ditched the Golden Age social activist stuff for that dumb shadow monster plot. I enjoyed Lois and Clark, but I think a lot of that's nostalgia and the novelty of having Pre-Crisis Superman back; current Action Comics under Jurgen's has his same awful pacing from Death of Superman. I think Johns's Superman run gets overlooked due to Romita's spotty art. I've just read the latest issue, but Flash, after five years finally seems to have found a good writer, though the Convergence tie-ins were also really good (Speed Force and Flash). Convergence, in general, had a lot of really entertaining tie ins, such as Superman's and Swamp Thing's.

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>>85878173
From Superman #1 son

>>85879912
>Green Arrow (Lemire)
Is this some kind of a joke?

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>>85879912
>Prefers Johns Superman to Morrison
That third arc felt like he was back to JLA tier writing and Morales actually came through pretty hard on the art

>>85877937
see
>>85879922

>>85879943
They made him look like Chris because he died same time period?


What is time now in US?

>>85869187

This is great DC news. It would be cool to get a sneak peak of Black Adam or Captain Marvel in a cameo sense. Kind of like Batman in suicide squad. 3 or 4 minutes tops.

>>85879943
Morrison's Action Comics got too weird, making it difficult to recommend. I'd have little compunction with lending Johns's Superman out.

>>85879932
There are actually people who don't like Lemire's Green Arrow? That was the best Green Arrow since Grell.

>>85879932
Why?

>>85879947
So Superman also couldn't fly and didn't have heat vision right?

>>85879987
Hope WB will learn from their editing errors.
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>>85879990
>got too weird
pleb

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>>85880004
>danslott's logic

>>85879990
Lemire's Green Arrow was pretty bad, it had the potential to be good, but wasn't. It suffers from Lemire's style of writing for the trade and while The Outsiders were a neat concept he never truly did anything interesting with them, he made a lot of faceless mooks that get beat up in "epic spreads", hell, the shield guys aren't even worth a mention, their leader jobs so hard too ugh. His Shado sucked(I shouldn't really hold it against him since Shado is always badly written outside of Grell anyway) and he changed Ollie's backstory in some convoluted mess with his father surviving and training him in secret(oh and being an archer is a family thing by the way, he inherited that from his father) just so he can show up in the present and then 2 issues later he dies in a stupid heroic sacrifice moment in which Lemire and Sorrentino didn't communicate well and while the arrow is in mid flight, Robert travels half a mile in 0.5 seconds and jumps in front of it. Don't even get me started on his last arc, after we get teases of this cool as Dragon character, we learn that he's a whinny "muhh dady" bitch and despite being an amazing martial artist he gets beat by literally the power of friendship. Oh and the art is no good, yeah Sorrentino can do some creative paneling and I think people don't talk enough about his versatility(see his flashback scenes, those looked stylish as fuck) but it is painfully obvious that he is a tracer and his characters are really stiff.

>>85879922
Never outright said let people die.

>>85879666
I'm the person that made the initial comment. I consider Morrison's 19 issues that make up that arc to be pretty brilliant but flawed by both the art and other aspects. I also have very high standards. I know fucking people all over the internet give crap A- or 8/10, or such shit, but I don't. My 5 is probably most other people's 7 minimum.

>>85879777
see above

>>85879912
See here's where my point is made for me. Throne of Atlantis was crap on a low salt cracker. Forever Evil was dull, warmed-over reboot button fodder of ideas that couldn't sustain a bad season of Star Trek Voyager.

Supergirl was laughably bad. Like anything else, it had moments, such as the relationship/friendship between Banshee and Kara, but that's like praising Lobdell for three panels in a 10-12 issue run.

>>85879980
Bump. Answer.

>>85879746
Because he doesn't want to. They offered him either JLD or Pacific Rim 2 to direct and he chose Pacific Rim 2.

>>85879581
>didn't like Dial H and Omega Men

what

>>85883744
Why are you confused? He likes JLD so obviously he likes garbage.