Warhammer 40k

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>>85856500
Bump before bed

My only real complaint is that the mouth movements needed some work. Other than that it's a solid short.

the titanicus comics are fine

>>85857211
That's because the original language is German

>>85857239
Huh. That actually makes sense. Thanks.

Needs more Orks

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>>85857336
The inquisition doesn't fight the Green skins, necrons or genestealers, They just kill a lot of people.

https://youtu.be/ipU6F4Q7tvQ

>>85856500
I only got into 40k this year, but I'd recommend you read some of the Horus Heresy before. Plaing DoW and Space Marine would help as well.

>>85857510
The Ordo Xenos sure do. Certainly hunting out Orks from spores after a Space Hulk passes through a system, finding and destroying Necron outpost tombs beneath Imperial worlds, and MOST DEFINITELY rooting out the impure scourge that is a Genestealer Cult.

They dont just deal with those who traffic in alien artifacts or consort with the xenos, but those who could pose a threat or have already infiltrated Imperial Civilization.

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>>85857510
Look, I know GW have made changes so that the Space Marines are the most important things ever and the Deathwatch aren't subordinate to the Ordo Xenos, but Throne Damnit some of us put in the work on the regular! Or did, anyway, until the group broke up.

>>85856500
OP, the old-old Warhammer Monthly comics are great as they are essentially 2000AD comics with Warhammer characters, right down to the writers and artists. Of particular note

>Kal Jericho
>The Redeemer
Stories set in the lawless underhive of Necromunda about a cool bounty hunter and a lunatic religious fundementalist/ganglord, respectively.

>Bloodquest Books 1-3
Blood Angels Space Marines go on a series of quests to redeem themselves.

>Titan: God Machine
Follows the new Princeps (commander) of one of 40k's mechs-cum-religious-icons as it fights other gigantic war machines.

>Lone Wolves
Space Wolves and Imperial Guard on an ice world. Very simple story, nice action.

>Daemonifuge
Sister of Battle living saint (sort of) VS the forces of Chaos. Mixed bag, some really good bits, very hard to find ending.

>DEFF SKWADRON
Tha Meknificent Orks in dere flyin' machines. Best thing GW ever produced.
http://www.cold-moon.com/40k/Deff%20Skwadron/deff_skwadron.htm

Boom Studios did some others quite recently. They aren't as good (in my opinion), but they're easier to find and generally cheaper to buy. The ones with the Black Templar Space Marines also have a Dreadnought character who's great.

Insurrection also wasn't a crossover, but it was by Dan Abnett who was briefed to write a 40k style war story in Dredd's universe.

>>85856500
Here, theres not so many that you really need a list of recommended reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000_comics

THAT SAID : Deff Sqwadron is legendery for its artwork, and for being about a group of Ork fighter-pilots (non humans dont tend to get a lot of love in the expanded universe fiction department), and I remember Deathwatch as being pretty great, about a Group of Deathwatch Space Marines (a super elite small squad of space marines drawn from multiple chapters to deal with specialist missions) taking out a Genesteal cult in the aristocracy of an imperial world.

Deamonifugue and Bloodquest are also meant to be pretty great and tend to get great reviews from people I know, but I havent read them myself.

In the literature department its even easier, read the Eisenhorn series (and the Ravenor series that comes after that) about Inquisitor Gregor Eisenhorn of the Ordo Xenos and Gaunt's Ghosts about the small group of survivors from the chaos invasion of the planet Tanith during the founding of an imperial guard legion there, lead by Commissar Gaunt.

There is also the fantastic semi-comedic Ciaphas Caine series, about an Imperial Commissar and his psychic pariah batman/manservent/best friend Jurgen, thats pretty much Blackadder In Space.

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>>85856500
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZc6cr6G2E4
Oh my gentle jesus, yes. Do we have any idea how long until the full thing comes out?

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>>85857711
Nice dubs
>Ork spores
Wtf? How do they reproduce??? They are fungus people?

You are right out the ordos xeno, the deathwatch is cool.

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>>85857963
>Wtf? How do they reproduce??? They are fungus people?
Yes.

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>>85858086
Aaaaaahhhh
>They are it!!

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We have had like 4 threads and they all died I guess /co/ doesnt really enjoy 40k shit.


and it has really good waifu flavors too but then I remember not alot of places outside of /tg/ actually dont know 40k

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>Forgetting the best 40k comic

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>>85858154

40k is very /co/

>Holy Terra
>enough space to move around without bumping in to people
>can see the planet through the smog
>allowing inquisitors to operate on it's surface unsupervised

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>look on the website
>Think its gonna be a full movie
>its 20 minutes long

>>85858267
Kek
>II &XI missing
wait what about the others two?

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>>85858421
>we already watch half of the movie
Okay

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>>85858422

About those....

>>85858267
God, Ultramarines are such suckups.
>>85858422
II and XI are two missing Legions. Iirc, Space Wolves killed one, no idea what's with other.

>>85858485
Fucking space furries, killing the childrens of jesus. I Hope Little magic magnus best the shit out of those dogs fuckers.

>>85858572
You know how it is, Emps says "jump" and they fetch stick.

>>85858422
Their records were expunged sometime during the Horus Heresy, so in lore no-one knows who they are. Out of lore reasoning is to allow players to make up their own founding legion.

I'm disappointed by how short that was, oh well.

The city scenes kinda reminded me of the overly CGI parade in Ghost in the Shell 2.

I used to play WH40K in the 90s, it pretty amazing to see it fully realised nowadays in things like this and videogame FMVs like the ones by Blur.

It's such a fully realised world, you would think a full CG movie, while obviously expensive to make, would be something that had been on the books by now, considering how they have so many books to rely on, all the designs of the characters, vehicles, even worlds exist, and there's a sizable fanbase who are sure to see it as well as well as the normies they could hope to pull in.

I'm not saying it'd necessarily be the biggest movie in the world, but it could surely stand to do some good business.

>>85858604
>Their records were expunged sometime during the Horus Heresy
I wonder why. We know they were destroyed before Heresy. Someone was salty because Chaos wasn't involved?

>>85858635


Apparently GW are even onboard with it

and they are never onboard with anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClfhBZR9-As

>dat march of marines

I'm hard

>>85856500
That was really impressive for a fan film, and as someone just getting into 3D modelling and animation, quite inspiring to see what just a few people can do.

Character animation was a wee bit wonky, but by the Emperor those environments.

>>85858635
>It's such a fully realised world, you would think a full CG movie, while obviously expensive to make, would be something that had been on the books by now, considering how they have so many books to rely on, all the designs of the characters, vehicles, even worlds exist, and there's a sizable fanbase who are sure to see it as well as well as the normies they could hope to pull in.


The official reason is that all movie studios that were interested required them to "dumb down" the setting and make sweeping alterations just to make it something more acceptable for normies, and GW refused anything of the sort.

>>85859684
I respect that. WH40K should be grimdark to the absolute max - ESPECIALLY in the settings.

>>85858635
GW tried. They made Ultramarines, and Ultramarines was shit. The only way you'd get a really fucking good 40k film is either like this, through fan dedication, or somehow a director and producer that both love 40k enough not to dumb down the setting would somehow come together. It would bring in a ton of bucks, but it'd also introduce a bunch of normies and cause all the regular collectors/players' autism to skyrocket.

>>85859896
I keep saying that I'd kill for a 40k show in the general style of the CG Clone Wars show (with the later seasons' budget of course) jumping around the different factions would be cool. One episode about the White Scars, one episode about a Cadian force working with a Death Korps of Krieg force, one about the Tau fighting the Orks. Headed by the right guy (hell if he's into it, Filoni himself would be good), and with enough budget, that show would be a massive hit.

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>>85856500
40k sucks.
Long live Fantasy.

>>85860095
>It would bring in a ton of bucks, but it'd also introduce a bunch of normies and cause all the regular collectors/players' autism to skyrocket.
It's not like GW didn't fuck them over regularly anyway. GW is even worse than... ok, it's about as bad as current Marvel.

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>>85859684
>>85860095

That's a lie, we know for a fact GW never licensed their IP because their former CEO Kirby said that they focus on selling "collectable miniatures" and that all other endeavors are competition for their main product.

The vidya were experimental one-offs purely for the purpose of advertising.

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>>85860532
There is no company worse than GW.

Even Konami, EA Games, Sony, and Activision are better.

>>85860470
Fantasy is dead m8y, long live Age of Shitmar

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>>85858267
This is too accurate!

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>>85860767

>>85860541
>That's a lie, we know for a fact GW never licensed their IP because their former CEO Kirby said that they focus on selling "collectable miniatures" and that all other endeavors are competition for their main product.
That's actually positive though, I mean imagine if there'd never been an MCU because Marvel would rather make comics for people who actually like comics instead of making movies for casuals. Imagine how much better /co/ would be today, for a start.

I still buy GW minis but man, when they replaced the Diaz Daemonettes with the naff plastic ones that no longer had their tits out that tested my patience.

>>85857925
damn i kind of thought he had given up on that project.

>>85860926
Except that its like Marvel killed the quality of the comics down to a few pages each because they just wanted to sell posters AKA alt covers minus the rest of the comic, and actively bragged about driving away the people who weren't "true fans".

Or if when investors asked how they plan to compete with DC, they responded "We sell posters to collectors, not TV shows".

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>>85858197

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>>85858604
We all know it was related link.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Angry_Marines

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>>85860926
Use the Chinaman dude, you can get all the old models in resin.

>>85858197
That and the deff skwadron series are the best comics.

>>85858690
I guess because they made it clear it was non profit.

So free advertisement!

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>>85861138
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>>85861145
Gonna need a bit more to go on I'm afraid friend, all a google gets me is fine china shops and some novel.

I haven't actually played in ages, I just paint minis and consume lore.

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>>85861288
Lurking around on /tg/ might give you a better result, and I know there's some decent recasters on Taobao.

Tau girls a best

>>85861288
>>85861403
/tg/ is really tight lipped about it though. Just asking about it directly and all you'll get is

>GTFO Games Workshop

>>85860475
Can we get this with sound, perhaps?

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>>85861454
Yeah, I haven't been in the hobby for years, so I don't know all the new sites. My advice is to just lurk, it'll come up eventually.

Nice gfx for a game cutscene, but this has nothing to do with a real story.

>>85860900
Are they really that obsessed with trademarks?

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>>85861754
okay, firstly
>game cutscene

and secondly
>40k
>coherent plot

>>85861754
You can't be that stupid, this has to be trolling.

Please tell me you aren't that stupid.

>>85858421
Darn them for only making a 20 minute short in their spare time instead of a 90 minute movie.

>>85857895
>Deamonifugue and Bloodquest

They both felt like WH40K road movies in a way.

>>85861786
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Games_Workshop

Read, and weep.

>>85858421
>A fan's passion project done for free

I'm glad we're getting anything at this point. Almost thought it was abandoned.

>>85856500
You could watch Bruva Alfabusa and friend's various videos for the cartoon side of it. They're jokey but still pretty good for getting a sense of the W40K universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJpBPckm9U

>>85856500
Holy Terra was pretty spot on, the visuals were good.

My two complaints, one major one minor:
Minor: Holy Terra felt sparsely populated in the video, imo, which makes a certain amount of sense on the surface; but the lower levels should be postitively choking with people.
Major: The Main character was one "psh, nuthin personal kid" away from being a ultra-shitty mega edgelord. I hope he dies horribly when the full movie comes out.

>>85858421
They had next to 0 plot in the first ten minutes, what kind of arc could they possibly fit into another 10?

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Reminder that the Eldar are the master race.

>>85862132
Reminder that Eldrad got Ynnead got killed by a single deathwatch killteam.
Goddamn the fluff of the past 6 years has been so shit. I've mostly stopped paying attention to what GW releases these days.

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>>85862172
The ritual was disturbed, and embryonic ynnead was reduced to shards, not killed outright.
>Avatars of Ynnead soon.

>>85862026
Thanks. I don't visit /tg/ that often, I just read they did it so they could trademark elf names.
And that evil elf guy in armor becoming elf king.
They really reached Big 2 idiocy when they trademarked "superhero".

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>>85858197
I never get a chance to post this, furry threads aren't the scourge like they used to be.

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>>85862128
>40k
>Any plot more complex than 'shoot those fuckers'

>>85860475
>What are you doing today, Brother?
>My squad and I have parade duty. The Lord Inquisitor is back from doing whatever it is Lord Inquisitors do when they're not throwing parades.
>Oh, that sucks. Try not to look too bored, eh?
>You know it, Brother. Ave Imperator.
>Ave Imperator.

>>85862247
I could understand that if this was a space marine or guard movie, but it's the Inquisition. Good inquisition stories have plot

>>85861830
It basically is a game cutscene, without a proper game. There is no real story, just some nice but hollow images. Nothing meaningful happens, no story structure or anything. Sure it's nice looking for a hobby project, but has nothing to do with any interesting or compelling story.

>>85860475
Who let the crazy murder coffins into a public parade?

>>85862283
Oh my mistake
>Inquisitor plot: That heretic did something heretical! Shoot the fucker!

>>85860475
It's a bit weird that the marines are the ones who walk like undisciplined gorillas and the guardsmen are the ones marching in perfect inhuman synchronization.

>>85862220
Actually, Aelf is old English and was already used extensively by other companies anyway.

They just wanted to seem non-generic but did it like dumbasses.

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>>85862242
Furry was replaced by /pol/ and tumblr as the undersireable shit disturbing buttmad autists.

Furries are content with /trash/ and don't leak onto ither boards.

>Holy Terra
Was the bald guy they killed Frank Miller?

>>85861288
>>85860926
I have some of the Diaz Daemonettes I think, might get them recasted some day. Those things are the fucking best not just because they've got their tits out but because they're so nice to paint.

>>85860532
GW killed itself when they raised a 10 man box of troops to nearly 30 bucks. Since Brexit though, I think they might be cheaper to buy directly from the UK.

>>85860541
Wasn't Ultramarines released before that, in like 2008, when GW was actually kind of okay?

>>85862416

The Commissar shoots you if you can't walk in formation, because normal humans are cheap.

The process of making a Space Marine is longer than most Guardsman's entire careers, and they're trained in war, not paradesmanship.

>>85862965
At first I was going to point out it only takes like 4 years to make a space marine, but then I realized you were still probably 100% correct

>thread makes me nostalgic for my 40k gaming days
>remember that back in the day I wanted some Sisters of Battle to play with my Dark Angels
>fuck it, I'm an adult with an income now, why don't I get some?
>go to GW site
FIFTY FUCKING QUID FOR A SINGLE SISTERS OF BATTLE SQUAD
FUCK THIS SHIT

>>85862816
GW has been shit since 2003.

>>85863024
The TT RPGs and Vidya is where 40k is at right now.

>>85862416
But notice how each row stepped in time with each other. Maybe it wasn't to create blocks of perfect unison, but differing rows to match Marine tactics: Not attacking in huge waves, but each squad fulfilling a separate role on the battlefield. And as such should march in a separate fashion on the parade grounds.

>>85863060
Except for that one asshole on the upper right who's completely doing his own thing with no sync to the others whatsoever.

>>85862588
So just take
>>85862242
and replace it with /pol/ crap. It will still work.

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>>85863024
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/tgg2-light-and-darkness

TGG2 was a huge success for that reason.

>>85863095
Well he's a captain, he can do whatever the fuck he wants.

>>85863119
>Lust Elves
Oh, boy.

>>85861550
>>>/wsg/1269708

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>>85863141
Yeah, "totes not Slaaneshi".

GW squatting Slaanesh gets more and more likely.

>>85858086
>harbors the genetic traits of both animal and fungal life forms
>it is this plant-like nature
>fungal
>plant-like
Everyday, there's another stupid thing.

>>85863177
I wish them all of luck, anyway. Models look nice.

>>85863046
Basically this

And the new comics coming

>>85863219
I got a shitload, they're great. A lot are ball and joint, so no monopose.

>>85860470

I'm sorry for your loss, anon.

>>85863024
GW has some of the most bizarre corporate decisions I've ever seen. First off, they do no market research whatsoever, so they make decisions based solely on gut feeling and coin flips. They jack up their prices to insane levels, apparently feeling that having 1 guy buy a 100 dollar model is better business then having 100 guys buying a 10 dollar model. And then, once their prices are jacked to extreme autist neckbeard levels, they start trying to sanitize everything and censor or remove things to make it more marketable to the preteen crowd who can't fucking afford their models, pissing off the autist neckbeards who actually can in the process.

Honestly it's amazing the company hasn't been driven right into the dirt yet, the only reason they're allowed to merely stagnate is because they're really the only big wargame company in town. If they were trying to compete in any other niche that wasn't almost solely composed of them, they'd have died decades ago.

>>85863337
GW once used to be the only wargames and skirmish games on the market.

Now, they have a lot of competition that are doing quite well.

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>>85856500
what is a modified version of a store's logo native to my country doing in this sick short film @ 2:15

immersion ruined

>>85863397
It's clearly the remnants of the old company, carried in name only by the corporate warriors of the wastes, and revived as OAK when the Emperor reunited the disparate clans of Earth.

>>85857925
I would play the shit out of this game

>>85863189
>orks
Probably closer to a lichen actually (lichen being hardy hybrids of plants and fungi.)

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>>85863046
I agree with you, but ironically enough it seems like GW are cutting ties with FFG, the people who make the RPGs, too. Apparently there were problems trying to get copies of them for sale at Gencon and it was a testy subject to bring up.

GW has form here. Dark Heresy, the first 40k rpg, was done more in-house with the people who made the Warhammer Fantasy RPG as a company called Black Industries (like Black Library, the company that publishes the fiction). Dark Heresy sold out on pre-orders alone. Based on this, GW decided to cancel the line and close Black Industries. Something was saved when FFG bought the remains, but a lot of the original people still got it in the shorts.

>>85863337
Once you stop looking at it like a proper company and more like a Scientology style cult that happens to make miniatures as a side project it makes a lot more sense.

>>85860095
>GW tried. They made Ultramarines, and Ultramarines was shit.
Eh. Other than the low quality of the animation, it was OK. Certainly not great, but I wouldn't call it shit.

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>>85863716

>>85863119
That looks so fucking cool. And I missed it.

I miss out on everything nice.

>>85863899
It should be out in the Raging Heroes store soon, they're finishing delivering the backers goods right now.

They've been telling people on Facebook "Soon, sub to the newsletter".

>>85863716
>I agree with you, but ironically enough it seems like GW are cutting ties with FFG, the people who make the RPGs, too. Apparently there were problems trying to get copies of them for sale at Gencon and it was a testy subject to bring up.
As I understand it, that's more due to FFG not bothering any more because they now have Star Wars license and that's obviously the more lucrative IP to focus on.

>>85857810
I been wanting to consume some 40k lore, But I have no fucking clue where to start.

>>85864173
The Horus Heresy books are as good a place as any. It's the most important event in 40K lore by a very large margin, and the books are fairly well written for the most part.

If you want a faster, less serious crash course you could check out the 'If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device' series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcYrTCGKyrU

>>85864173
If The Emperor Had A Text To Speech Device.

No joke. Its a parody series, but goes through all the lore, mocking the new using the old or vice versa.

You can jump from it to the Codexes (rule/lorebooks for the armies) easily.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyiDf91_bTEgnBN0jAvzNbqzrlMGID5WA

>>85857228

Basically anything written by Dan Abnett is worth checking out.

>>85864414
>The Horus Heresy books are as good a place as any.

No they aren't. 1/3 of them are fucking awful, and their continuity is stretched badly.

>>85857668

Or just spend awhile pissing around on 1d4chan.

>>85857239
>40k
>In German
>With all of that beautiful militarism

Ohhh, baby I need to find the German release.

>>85863716
>but ironically enough it seems like GW are cutting ties with FFG, the people who make the RPGs, too.
I hadn't heard this. I figured FFG was abandoning 40k for those sweet sweet Star Wars bucks.

>>85864481
This, the Horus Heresy is a garbage series, though the first four books were ok.

>>85864173
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Slaanesh

Don't worry about any of that 'Emperor' garbage people go on about, this is the only thing you need to know. The warp gods offer the only love and kindness in a cruel and uncaring universe, plus they'll turn your dick into a kickass 40mm cannon if you ask.

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>>85864173
If you just want the background in a well-organised way that's relatively well-written and not too heavy on the Space Marine wank, the RPGs are a fantastic resource. I can tell you from personal experience that they have enough in them that someone with absolutely no knowledge of the setting beyond "my boyfriend collects these I think" can make a detailed character with a fleshed out back-story that fits really well into the universe.

Dark Heresy - the Inquisition, the secret police of the human Imperium, fighting against Enemies Without (Aliens), Enemies Within (Heretics, cultists and recidivists) and Enemies Beyond (Demons and Worse)

Rogue Trader - have you ever seen Disney's Atlantis? Its that. Oddball explorers with a giant ship, a huge crew and a mission from God to Go Forth And Make All The Money. Includes the ability to play as an Ork, Dark Eldar or Kroot, so has nice info on aliens. Different perspective to a lot of 40k stories also the most about life on a spaceship that's not Battlefleet Gothic related.

Only War - Imperial Guardsmen (and women!) fighting the enemies of Man with varying amounts of supplies, equipment and sanity. Includes a lot of fluff for all the pre-existing regiments like the Cadians, Catachans, Vorstroyans, Mordians, Krieg, Armageddons and the rest while adding some sweet new ones.

Deathwatch - Spess Mehreens from all the different chapters have a secret club for alien ass-kicking. You play as one in a game that's very much like Space Knights in The Expendables. Has the most info about the loyalist Astartes of all the RPGs.

Black Crusade - The eeeeevil game. You play as the followers of Chaos, from ordinary human cultists to Heresy era Space Marines. Has a book for each of the Chaos gods.

>>85864568
Slaanesh is literally the patron of manchildren.

He gave Sigvald all the blessings for no reason other than to make the biggest self-entitled retard cunt possible.

>>85863710
>plants and fungi

Cyanobacteria and fungi.

>>85864585
I'd also recommend the RPGs for fluff because a lot of the garbage fluff and retcons of the past decade or so aren't in them.
Then again, I'm an grognard about kids and their 40k fluff these days so what do I know.

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>>85864620
>He gave Sigvald all the blessings for no reason other than to make the biggest self-entitled retard cunt possible.

That, and it was funny. Same reason the Lucius the Eternal gets to do his thing, his ego rubbing up against his constant, constant failure is hilarious.

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>>85864710
Slaanesh and his followers are fucking hilarious, that's why they're my favourite faction. I love the idea of a bunch of stoned drunk retards spending more time trying to suck themselves off then fight, while literally everybody else around them is going full on grimdark and angsty as they whine and moan about the emperor and plots and death and carnage. Any time slaaneshi marines show up in a piece of lore they're always good for a laugh, either they'll be so stoned that they barely know what's going on or they'll be so arrogant as they walk right into the harshest asswhooping in the galaxy because slaanesh is the weakest chaos faction. And on the occasions that they do actually manage to do shit, they never fail to do it with top-tier style and presentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QukbyOMRc

>>85864585
>That photo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lxbdBQV11E

>>85856500
>Starring Inquisitor Coldsteel

>>85856500
Hey i have a friend who worked on this project, he was already talking to me about it back in college about 6 years ago, I'm glad the short is so successful

>>85863044
But anon, Black Reach was released in 2008! It was one of the best starter sets ever! 40k's starter sets are pretty good in general most of the time.

>>85863716
>Dark Heresy sold out on pre-orders alone. Based on this, GW decided to cancel the line and close Black Industries.
>sold out
>cancels the line and closes branch
Nevermind. GW's been sucking dick since 2003, you were right.

>>85865610
And his superior Obi-Wan Sherlock Clousseau.

>>85856500
there was a dredd/40k crossover?

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40k in german sounds even more metal as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knbZZ6qur-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLmskcz3cVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvP9Qv2xvbg

>>85856500
I feel there's something off. The shadows looks like rendered in unreal and some movement is kinda off. Still astonishing for a small steam

I'd fucking love to get into the tabletop but the prices are simply non affordable. Guess the vidya will suffice.

>>85865610
kek

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>>85866556

If your new to 40k your going to learn it copies alot of shit but then cranks it up to 10

Here are 40ks judges adeptus arbites

Be on the look out for the planet full of Rambos aswell

>>85858422
Those Legions were already stricken from the records years before the Horus Heresy. It's implied the Space Wolves were involved and that the Ultramarines absorbed their resources.

They were deliberately left open as early as 2nd ed for fans to come up with their own ideas/legions

>>85866611
cool

my uncle gave me his armies, the bad thing is i have NO ONE to play with and no one who WANTS to play. i got tyranids, IG, SM and some half done Orks. he had to get rid of it because of room reasons for a new kid in their house.

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>>85866556
No, but 40k was created as Judge Dredd meets Paradise Lost.

See, GW are unoriginal hacks and ripped off everything. GW had the rights to the first Judge Dredd RPG and miniatures, like they did a LOTof other properties like Dr. Who and Star Wars. When they lost it, 40k was born by mixing their Judge Dredd stock with Warhammer Fantasy (which itself was born from them losing the licenses to Dungeons & Dragons and Glorantha).

So 40k is just a Judge Dredd knockoff that mutated.

>>85866808

Im a 40k fag and I personally think the current table top situation is shit

>>85866838
40k is a lot closer to Dune smashed with Warhammer Fantasy than Dredd smashed with Fantasy.

>Imperium
>Navigators
>The God Emperor

The core of the setting is Dune.

>>85866792
>They were deliberately left open as early as 2nd ed for fans to come up with their own ideas/legions

The funny thing is that if you try do to that anywhere (and mainly in /tg/ 40k general) you are instantly marked as a "special snowflake donut steel"

>>85866852
I haven't played in over a decade but I used to enjoy it. This thread is making me want to start lurking /tg/.

Can't you guys just do what old school D&D players do and play using the old rules?

>>85866916
>The funny thing is that if you try do to that anywhere (and mainly in /tg/ 40k general) you are instantly marked as a "special snowflake donut steel"
I did it anyway. Though I've gotten bored of them and they're largely an abandoned project. I do have about 6000 points of them though.

>>85866838
Aren't the Arbites basically the Judges now?

>>85866950
Arbites are definitely taken from Judge Dredd. Though in 40k they do not enforce a planet's local laws; they ensure that the ruling planetary governor is obeying Imperial law.

>>85866888
Dune factored into it, but the creator of both Warhammers said 40k began as Judge Dredd in setting, and had Paradise Lost as the backbone of the plot.

He also said he hates where GW and the writers took it. There aren't supposed to be "good guys", everyone is a villain and you shouldn't even pity hardly any of them.

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>>85856500
Titan is my favourite (by Dan Abnett) but Deff Skwadron, Damonifuge, Blood Quest, Redeemer and Lone Wolves are also great.

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Reminder that chaos is for faggots that worship beta cuck """""gods"""""" too weak to overpower the one true god of the setting.

>>85864630
Actually some are symbiotic with green algae, which may count as plants depending on who you ask. They're viridiplantae anyway.

tfw your favorite piece of fluff is no longer considered canon.

You'll always be canon to me Inquisition Wars Emperor Speech.

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>>85866611
i dont like the acting of that inquisitor. way off from the whole 40K atmosphere.

>>85866568

try in russian or mongolian and you will shit briks

>>85866990
>He also said he hates where GW and the writers took it. There aren't supposed to be "good guys", everyone is a villain and you shouldn't even pity hardly any of them.

There aren't any "good guys" though, the closest thing to "good guys" are the Imperial Guard, and that's just because they're basic humans and you know they get shredded all the time. Hell, they know they get shredded all the time, they have flashlights.

>>85867021
Titan's fucking badass.

>>85866942
You could but then you'd miss out on some of the cool stuff that's come out since. That said I'm in it for the board games these days.

>>85866942

You can

I think you looked at 40k general? You see that general only cares about competitive shit and the table top game

>>85862303
This is probably the most Astartes the Dreadnoughts have felt in ages, the Space Marines are probably bored or hating this though.

>>85867049
Man, they've really tried to hype up chaos after I quit.
Used to be Chaos was mid-tier at best in the "who-will-destroy-everything" power rankings. Also I'm pretty sure it used to be that Chaos didn't actually want to win since the Chaos gods fed on the horrible shit going down in real space.
I also think I remember the demon codex saying that most demon incursions basically just ended up with the demons fucking around aimlessly.

>>85866942
Just find some people who want to play or are willing to play with the old rules. If you do start lurking in /tg/ I hope you don't find yourself a victim of cancer.

>>85867272
He hates how the books talk about Space Marines like you're supposed to root for them. The in-universe take is what he hates, SMs should be basically the same as CSM in his eyes other than CSM enjoying what they do and SM being pious about it.

A lot of material describes how SM are defenders of the Imperium, when they're supposed just another flavor of fallen angels that do what they do out of ignorance.

Basically, any time the text talks about them positively, the omniscient third person narrator reminds the reader of how horrible they are.

They talk about victory and saving humanity, the narrator reminds you they're currently slaughtering women and children genocidally at the end of the last battle of a genocidal war where more was lost than will be gained because they're slaves to superstition and ignorance like their enemies are.

>>85867407
It does feel kind of hollow since they've also been pushing how humanity feeds Chaos. So if humanity dies, Chaos will lose a significant amount of power.

>>85867407
No they didn't. That line first appeared (as far as I'm aware), word for word, on page 11 of 1993' Codex Imperialis.

I can upload a scan if you'd like.

>>85867468
Nah, it's fine, I believe you.

>>85864173
If the Emperor had a text to speech device

>>85867512
Sorry if I came off a bit aggressive. I'm a big fan of the old 40k fluff and I've always found it a bit annoying on /tg/ when people complain about "retcons" that are actually old fluff.

The old GW CEO was ousted by the board for wasting so much money fighting copyright battles and funding literal shadow runners to ruin 3D printing technology. The new CEO instituted a 'say yes' policy to the license and has been way friendlier to fan projects. It's why a glut of 40K games were announced this year.

>>85867439
Oh, he meant Space Marines specifically then, that makes sense. I haven't read any 40k novels that actually have SM in them, only the Adeptus Mechanicus series, a bunch of the comics, and those Ork stories that came out a couple years ago. In the Mechanicus series, they just have the Black Templars, and they don't give a shit about anyone, so I haven't experienced any bullshit marine stuff outside of the stories about Ultramarines defeating millions of Tyranids in the Macragge starter set. Got any recommended reading?

>>85867624
Also, tricking people into buying the same model twice.

>>85867624
Forgot that happened, thanks for the reminder. Now I can pick up on that 40k comic I wanted to do.

>>85865226
speakin of those vids

just out of curiosity (I recall someone mentioning it)

is it true that vid related are so fucked up that they make enemies in the vicinity freak the fuck out so they can "sneak around" in plain sight?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pywjdJ7P-7o

>>85867836
That's the culexus assassin not the Eversor.

>>85867773
According to Ansell, in every 40k story it should be clear you are reading about deluded villains who are fighting deluded villains. Hypocrisy, brutality, and willing ignorance for every character.

A lot of 40k material plays it straight. It sucks to be a Guardsman, but the story is about survival in the jungles, or a Space Marine story about honor and loyalty on a battlefield.

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>>85866942
>Can't you guys just do what old school D&D players do and play using the old rules?
5th edition, best edition. Come at me.

>>85867624
>The new CEO instituted a 'say yes' policy to the license and has been way friendlier to fan projects. It's why a glut of 40K games were announced this year.

It's also, ironically, the only reason GW turned a profit this year. Their core business is in decline while licensed products like Warhammer: Total War, Battlefleet Gothic: Armada and Mordheim: City of the Damned (all based on discontinued products, strangely enough) keep the whole bloated carcass afloat.

That's a little harsh, but not unduly so - although I've been pleasantly surprised with Kevin Rountree's leadership since becoming CEO. You'd think that a guy who labored under the previous regime for nigh on a decade would be part of the problem, but it's been under his watch that they've started to fix what's wrong with Age of Sigmar; discontinued the awful sales pamphlet that White Dwarf Weekly had become; and, while shying away from actually lowering prices, repackaged most of the Space Marine range with significant added value per kit. The most concrete examples of meaningful leadership at a corporate level have been the Start Collecting! boxes, all priced cheaper than the old battleforces with reasonably comparable contents (given current prices); and the just announced Kill Team bundle, which lowers the barrier to entry if you're just getting into the hobby back under $100 out the door.

Unfortunately, they've retained Kirby as "non-executive" chairman of the board, which means that we still have to endure his delusional tirades every six months when the semi-annual report comes out; but as long as he's no longer actually calling the shots, there's a chance for things to actually improve.

>>85867836
Eversor Assassins: when you absolutely, positively, have to murder everything in a twelve square kilometer area as violently as possible

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>>85867879

Only War is the best 40k RPG

>>85867836
Yes and no. You are talking about the Culexus assassin, which can become invisible and intagible, but can also choose to stay visible and generate an aura of despair and unnatural terror that in a building where you can't snipe them from afar they can literally just walk inside while every guard commit suicide or become insane.

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>>85868252

>>85868017
>if you kill it, it explodes and kills you anyway
fug

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>>85868645
Culexus literally tear your soul apart on physical contact with their un-soul.
What a terrible way to kill something you love.

>>85868753
Yeah but eldar are faggots so it's a net gain.

>>85868898
That's fair.

>>85862416
The animator didn't have pauldron wearing goosesteppers to use as a reference.

>>85867861
>>85868343
>>85868252

Ahh okay

>>85869449
There's a bunch of different kinds of assassins.

Culexus are made of 'anti-psychers' who fuck with regular humans, but REALLY fuck with psychers. They can fire blasts of pure fuck-you anti soul energy from their heads and they can go invisible, or at least make others ignore them.
Vindicus are extreme ridiculous snipers with guns longer than they are tall. They shoot things from very very very far away.
Vanus are cyber criminals, who either gather information and manipulate events from behind the scenes so that someone else kills their target for them, or they go hollywood hacker and take control of everything with a circuit board to ram trains into people or explode gas lines or whatever.
Eversor are insanely pumped up with drugs and go psycho and kill absolutely everything within their range, before their blood boils in a chemical cocktail and they explode like a nuclear bomb.
Venenum uses specialized poisons to take out their targets, they can take out pretty much anything as long as they can get their poison in it.
Callidus are pumped up with some sort of drug that lets them shift their bodies around to mimic other people, allowing them to infiltrate practically anywhere.

>>85867871
I guess Mechanicus did a good job then, it basically details how everyone on a giant ship fleet gets fucked over by each other. The only redeeming factor is that they made it somewhere and escaped from that somewhere. Because of the fact that the first characters you're introduced to are immediately inducted into what's basically slavery, I'd say that's deluded villains thinking they're good guys. Maybe I'm just too hopeful for 40k these days.

>>85869661
The Imperium, creating a fuck ton of ways to brutally murder the shit out of the enemies of mankind (and sometimes their own)

So who the fuck do they sick these crazy guys on

I am curious how chaos worshipers or demons respond to Culexus given how they sound

I heard some story where one of those guys went to a Tau area (who have a tiny presence in the warp or something) and made them all shit their pants in fear as he/she/it went after this one guy

>>85866990
>>85867871
>you shouldn't even pity hardly any of them
I don't know. I can see where he's coming from. But some of the better stories I've read play heavily upon the sympathy and pity one feels for people caught up in the unforgiving engine of death that is the 40k universe. A story where everyone is not only evil but completely deluded and hypocritical in a self serving way quickly gets tiresome. There can be plenty of stories of people fucking up or being unsympathetic, but if there's nothing to grab onto emotionally even a little bit, there's no other reason to care than just pure schadenfreud. Which is fine, but hardly a sustainable bit of emotional torque. All stories, regardless of their emotional natures, wear out their welcome eventually, but I think stories where you can't even find yourself liking to read about the characters wear out their welcome the quickest. That's all down to personal preference on what you find enjoyable to read in your characters, I suppose. I like Abnett's line on the subject, about "there are real people there too," though I can see that being too hokey and relying to much on treating 40k as an actual setting rather than a kind of performance art of ironic grimdarkness for some people.

I can see the mentality working better in the tabletop format, where the background is largely just actual background to however you want to fluff the particular battle or army.

>>85869820
>So who the fuck do they sick these crazy guys on
Someone who got the attention of the High Lords of Terra. On paper, an assassin of the Officio Assassinorum (where all these super-assassins come from) can only be deployed by a majority vote of the High Lords.

One example that comes to mind is a Culexus was sent to kill a Daemon Prince; since a daemon prince is a psychic entity, the Culexus' null-soul inflicted a True Death. In another blurb, the Culexus walked right through a daemon army unnoticed to kill the sorceror summoning them all.

The story you mentioned is from the Second Damocles Crusade, when Aun'va, Supreme Ethereal of the Tau Empire got rekt by a Culexus.

desu Culexus are so fucking OP (on the TT too) I don't know why they even bother with the other assassins. I get Culexus are super-duper mega ultra rare, but the other assassins don't exactly grow on trees either.

>>85869820
>I am curious how chaos worshipers or demons respond to Culexus given how they sound
Not well. The problem is that psychers and other warp beings can't actually see 'blanks', they just see a "hole" which makes them absolutely lose their minds for some reason. Just being in sight of a blank will make most psychers start screaming hysterically until they pass out, bleeding from all their orifices.

That said not all chaos worshipers are psychers, they aren't particularly effective against Khorne's boys for instance because he hates sorcerers and his warp fuckery is purely physical. His adherents aren't mentally different from a normal person, just really fucking angry all the time.

I still don't get how you're so well versed in 40k lore yet keep fucking up the spelling of psykers.

>>85870106
I'm tired and should probably be sleeping instead of waxing on about 40k.

>>85856500
just dont touch the model wargame, its made of a jewish chinese money scam that requires 1k a year to upkeep (don't listen to the lies "buy once and be done")

>>85866990
>He also said he hates where GW and the writers took it.
Who and why the fuck should we care?

>>85856500
Praise the Emperor, I never though this would get finished

>>85868645
Love blooms on the battlefield.

>>85857228
I also had issues with the mouth movement and the voice acting.
Then you remember 90% of this was done by one single guy in his spare time just because he loves 40k so much

>>85867624
>funding literal shadow runners to ruin 3D printing technology
By the emprah, sauce please

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>>85858422
They don't exist
They never did
Praise the Emperor

>>85867929
>Mordheim: City of the Damned
Just a reminder that this game is pretty good and is worth checking out.

>>85860767
I prefer the term Age of Smegmar

>>85865226
Is that a fucking Prosnorkulus reference?

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>>85856500
>Long day at work
>Come home, dog crapped on the carpet
>Car breaks down
>I hate life
>Sit down
>See this thread
Suddenly life is good.

So are Imperial Titans only used in areas that ring the Eye of Terror?

Does Chaos have their own Titans?

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>>85872728

THE TECH PRIESTS ARE GONNA FREAK

>>85856500
>/co/ 40k thread

Tankred Endures

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>>85863177
>>85863141
Sign me up

>>85867272

My first exposure to any of the 40k comics was when someone decided to storytime both Titans and Deff Skwadron in a thread and they're both fucking great.

>>85867566

In some respects yes, but a lot of the jokes also rely on having 40k knowledge already.

>>85872728
I don't know about Titan deployments. But Chaos has really really fucking old Titans. And if you know anything about 40k old=good.

>>85869998
>I can see the mentality working better in the tabletop format, where the background is largely just actual background to however you want to fluff the particular battle or army.


Have you read the All-Guardsmen Party stories?

Who is the worst guard regiment, and why is it the Edgy Korps of Krieg?

so are there any actually well written w40k comics?

you'd think abnett or somebody would get on it and do a cool run

it'd be too easy to fuck up, though

there will never be a saturday morning style cartoon featuring an imperial guard regiment but with appropriate gore and extreme violence but with sat morning cartoon themes

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>>85858267
>Not even the most up-to-date version

Anon, you faggot.

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>>85873957
>tfw no All Guardsmen Party cartoon

>>85873957
http://eagleordinary.smackjeeves.com/

>>85873334
Haven't gotten around to it. The concept seems highly comedic from what I've heard, which I didn't really bring up as the other way to make completely terrible people work.

I suppose I was primarily thinking about how one would make a more serious story work where ever is just absolutely irredeemable. Which I recall WH40k was never really terribly serious when it began. It's interesting to compare it with Dredd, which has followed a similar trajectory. Primarily a comedic satire of people doing terrible things or being part of a terrible system because of a ludicrously deluded ideal. But over time, we got more serious stories that dealt with more cathartic experiences. Where previously entirely comedically overly serious and evil assholes were allowed some semblance of a personal life that made them more engaging on a character level.

That's what I recall of Dredd's overall comic history, I've yet to get around to reading his greatest hits though I've had the thing sitting around for awhile.

>>85873536
>worst
I´m sorry, you clearly mean best. Death Korps of Krieg is literally GOD-Tier.

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>>85874829
Is there actually much to the Krieg beyond their initial fluff? I recall most of what I can remember reading with them being /tg/ wankery. Not wankery I disliked, I do have a think for faceless gas-mask soldiers, but wankery nonetheless.

>>85856500
CIAPHAS CAIN!!!

>>85864535
... You realize Space Marines are pastiche of ultrafascist bullshit, right?

>>85875023
You act like that's not entirely the appeal. Things like the Imperium of Man or the Principality of Zeon allow impressionable, directionless young men to live out their fantasies of military fascism in safe, healthy environments that don't put their country on everyone's shit list.

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>>85863010
Yup. Guardsmen don't generally live too long.

>>85856500

This >>85875012

Fucks all the bitches, gets all the intentional and unintentional fame.

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>>85876046
>That one book with the thicc, pushy, snotty, mouthy, ditzy and overconfident, and extremely horny governor's daughter

>>85872728
Titans are used when there's a massive planetary battle going on. Anything smaller than that, and they won't be deployed. It's a waste of time and resources.

>>85873238
I think my first exposure was Deff Skwadron ages ago, and I think I remember that Titans storytime too. Fuck, that should happen again sometime. I have all the pages, might do it someday.

>>85873957
There are, but not any ongoing currently. I'd like to do one though, but full of lewd.

>>85876213
>>85875990
I'd like to read both of these. Which Cain novel is that? I want to read them in order.

>>85876252
>Which Cain novel is that? I want to read them in order.
There's absolutely no point, they were released out of order, they're not meant to be followed chronologically. In story, Amberley Veil releases the books in whatever order she feels like, depending on whether it's something that's interesting to her or if it's easier to do or whatever, in universe there's no regard given for chronological order.

Anyway the novel with the big tit brat who keeps getting fucked senseless is Emperor's Finest.

>>85876339
>they were released out of order
That's a pity. Thanks dude. Time to get my immersion on.

>>85875023
That's the whole fucking point, yes.

That and those aesthetic-as-fuck uniforms. An entire scifi future as designed by Hugo Boss and the Byzantine Empire.

>>85863337

Has the advent of 3D printers fucked with them at all?

>>85876478
previous CEO was apparently working behind the scenes to fuck over GW making use of 3D printing, current CEO is an okay guy and will probably make use of them in the future. injection molding is still better for making multi-part model kits.

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>>85860475
>faggot Fists in their Pride Parade

See you in the Cage, weaklings.

>>85876213
>Cain is usually the tallest, smartest, and skilled guy in the room...among normal Guardmen and Commissars
>can barely keep up with actual Space Marines and has to do so most of the time without Jurgen. The Marines treat him like a precocious, clever child for a lot of the novel

Best running gag of that book.

>>85856500
>Halo and Gears of War make millions upon millions from ripping off Warhammer 40k
>40k is still trying to claw its way out of niche stardom despite dozens of novels and a sustained tabletop RPG presence

It's just not fair, man.

>>85876530
Hey remember that time Perturabo dug a big ditch and told Dorn he couldn't fill it with the bodies of his own dead?
And Dorn said fuck you, I'll fill it so full I can walk across the bodies, kick down the door to your house, and punch that smirk off your face?
And he did, except Perturabo wasn't in there and the house was a bomb?

>>85876713
Good times, my heretic brethren. Good times.

How accurate is this?

https://youtu.be/-MeVxKZBOfM

>>85876796
Should be titled: The Horus Heresy in about a minute

>>85867112
‘WE ARE CURIOUS,’ came a mighty, anguished thought which itself transcended time.
‘WE HAVE FOLLOWED YOUR INTRUSION INTO OUR SANCTUARY, OUR ANTRUM AND ADYTUM.’
‘My lord.’ Jaq sank to his knees. ‘I beg to report to you before I am destroyed. I may have uncovered a major conspiracy—’
‘THEN WE WILL STRIP YOUR SOUL BARE. RELAX, MORTAL MAN, OR YOU WILL SURELY DIE IN SUCH PAIN AS WE ALWAYS ENDURE.’
Jaq breathed deeply, slowly, stilling the panic that fluttered under his ribs like a trapped bird. He surrendered himself. A hurricane roared through his mind.
If the story that he had thought to relate were a tangled forest – and if each event in that story were a tree – then within moments all the leaves were stripped away from all of the trees, denuding them to bare wintry twigs, to a raw basic life without the foliage of memories.
He was drained of his story; that was sucked from him in a trice, all of those leaves whirling into the mind-maw of the Master. Jaq gagged. Jaq drooled.
He was an imbecile, less than an imbecile.
He was less than a new-born baby.
He neither knew where he was, nor who he was – nor what it even meant to be a someone.
The inquisitor sprawled. All that was known to his body was distress, the gurglings of the guts, breath and light. Light from afar.

ABRUPTLY, ALL MEMORY flooded back. On that instant, each leaf sprouted anew to recloak the forest of his life. ‘WE HAVE PUT BACK WHAT WE TOOK AND TASTED, INQUISITOR’
Trembling, Jaq regained his kneeling posture and wiped his lips and chin. The previous moments were a hideous limbo, unknowable, immeasurable. He was Jaq Draco again.

>>85876617
Didn't Cain get trapped on a Necron ship and just barely survived because a Space Marine party managed to get him out?

>>85876902
‘WE ARE MANY, INQUISITOR.’ The voice boomed in his mind almost gently – if gently was how an avalanche would sweep away a doomed village, if gently was how a scalpel might strip a life to the bare aching bones.
HOW ELSE COULD WE ADMINISTER OUR IMPERIUM—’
‘AS WELL AS WINNOW THE WARP—’
‘HOW ELSE?’
The Emperor’s mind-voice, if that truly was what it was, had dissociated into several voices, as if his great undying soul co-existed in fragments that barely hung together.
‘SO DOES THE HYDRA THREATEN US?’
‘IMPERILLING OUR GREAT AND AWFUL PLAN TO STEER HUMANITY?’
‘DID WE OURSELVES DEVISE THE HYDRA?’
‘PERHAPS IN A PART OF US, SINCE THIS HYDRA PROMISES A PATH?’
‘SURELY A MALEVOLENT PATH; FOR HOW COULD HUMANITY EVER FREE ITSELF?’
‘THEN WE MUST BE MALEVOLENT TOO. FOR WE HAVE EXPELLED OUR SENTIMENTALITY LONG AGO. HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE ENDURED? HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE IMPOSED OUR RULE?’
‘YET BY VIRTUE OF THAT WE ARE PURE AND UNCONTAMINATED BY WEAKNESS. WE ARE GRIM SALVATION.'

>>85876922
‘NOTHING THAT SAFEGUARDS HUMANITY CAN BE EVIL, NOT EVEN THE MOST STRENUOUS INHUMANITY. IF THE HUMAN RACE FAILS, IT HAS FAILED FOREVER.’
'WHEN WE CONFRONTED THE CORRUPTED, HOMICIDAL HORUS WHO ONCE USED TO SHINE LIKE THE BRIGHTEST STAR, WHO USED TO BE OUR BELOVED FAVOURITE – WHEN THE FATE OF THE GALAXY HUNG BY A THREAD – WERE WE NOT COMPELLED TO EXPEL ALL COMPASSION? ALL LOVE? ALL JOY? THOSE WENT AWAY. HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE ARMOURED OURSELVES? EXISTENCE IS TORMENT, A TORMENT THAT MUST NOURISH US. EVIDENTLY WE MUST STRIVE TO BE THE FIERCE REDEEMER OF MAN, YET WHAT WILL REDEEM US?’
‘Great lord of all,’ whimpered Jaq, ‘did you know of the hydra before now?’
‘NO, AND WE SHALL SURELY ACT IN DUE TIME—’
‘YET SURELY WE KNEW. HOW COULD WE NOT KNOW?’
‘ONCE WE HAVE ANALYSED THE INFORMATION WITHIN THIS SUB-MIND OF OURS.’
‘HEAR THIS, JAQ DRACO: ONLY TINY PORTIONS OF US CAN HEED YOU, OTHERWISE WE NEGLECT OUR IMPERIUM, OF WHICH OUR SCRUTINY MUST NOT FALTER FOR AN INSTANT. FOR TIME DOES NOT HALT EVERYWHERE WITHIN THE REALM OF MAN. INDEED TIME ONLY HALTS FOR YOU.’
‘WE ARE AN EVER-WATCHFUL LORD, ARE WE NOT? DID YOU HOPE TO GAIN OUR UNDIVIDED ATTENTION?’
‘HOW ELSE SHOULD WE SOUL-BIND PSYKERS AND OVERVIEW THE WARP AND BEAM THE ASTRONOMICAN BEACON AND SURVIVE AND RECEIVE INFORMATION AND GRANT AUDIENCES ALL AT ONCE, UNLESS WE ARE MANY?’
‘AND YET STILL WE MISS SO MUCH, SO VERY MUCH? SUCH AS THAT WHICH GUIDED YOU HERE.’
‘OUR SPIRIT GUIDED YOU.’
‘NO: ANOTHER SPIRIT, A REFLECTION OF OUR GOODNESS WHICH WE THRUST FROM US.’
‘WE ARE THE ONLY SOURCE OF GOODNESS, SEVERE AND DRASTIC. THERE IS NO OTHER SOURCE OF HOPE THAN US. WE ARE AGONISINGLY ALONE.’

>>85876902
>All that was known to his body was distress, the gurglings of the guts,
I was always more than a little bit put off by how frequently Ian Watson's writing return to the subject of bowels and the movement thereof.

>>85876862
Praise be to the Greater Good, the only force that can unite this divided galaxy!

t. Gue'vesa

>>85873536
I hate you.

>>85876796
It's not wrong, but it's also nowhere near comprehensive. There's nothing there about the old war or the fall of the eldar/slaanesh's birth, which are both almost equally as important as the horus heresy- the former is responsible for the eldar, orks and necrons existing in the galaxy, and the latter is responsible for the chaos gods having actual influence in the real universe, because the shitass eldar did so many drugs they tore a hole straight to the hell dimension for all the demons to pour through.

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>>85876862
Mmn, so fuckable.

It's a shame there aren't any major water case characters- obviously it wouldn't make sense in a universe about war, but if any Tau are actually hot it'd be the diplomats meant to get other species to like them.

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Soon

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>>85864568

>>85876756
If Perturabo was any good Dorn wouldn't have been able to fill the ditch.

>>85876796
Except for the part about Ultramarines actually showing up for the Horus Heresy, fairly spot on.

>>85876796
Ridiculously inferior to ITEHATTSD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyeoBm5QFnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUAAM1WE3Ng

>>85876938
>WE ARE AGONISINGLY ALONE
leik dis if u cry everyteim

>>85877011
As I filthy Taufag xenophile, I feel like there are never enough actual Tau fluff stories. Then again, maybe I should get around to actually reading/playing Fire Warrior, Fire Caste, and the next Ciaphas Cain novel I haven't read with them.

It feels like you could do an interesting occupation type story with the Tau on one of the conquered human worlds. I'm this close to breaking down and writing one myself.

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>>85877013
Reminder that once the shackles of the False Emperor are cast away, redemption is seized with limitless power for oneself, not empty prayers for salvation delivered by uncaring others.

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The Harrowing.

>>85877101
Why was FFG so much better at writing 40k fluff than GW has been for damn near a decade now?

Please make more books FFG I beg of you

Does Holy Terra even have trees or oceans anymore?

>>85877031
Considering Perturabo is still alive and a Daemon Primarch, and Dorn is dead, I'd say the ditch did its job well.

>>85877115
The oceans were boiled away thousands of years before the rise of the Emperor. Whatever greenery may still exist are in enclaves, not in forests.

>>85877115
No oceans. I'd imagine they have parks with trees though... The oxygen's gotta come from somewhere right?

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>>85877101
There is zero proof that the Harrowing happened. The text is intentionally vague and none committing

In fact, you know it actually is, you moron? It's a plot hook from a shitty FFG RPG game. As a freaking GM, I can decide what the Harrowing was. If I said they were time traveling Tau drones from the far future, it would as much valid as anything else.

FFG loves adding big doom plot hooks into their game. The Tyrant Star, The Dark Pattern, etc. It's all the same bullshit.

Seriously, anon, This Harrowing business is over wanked for no good reason by a single manchild.
>>85877113
No, FFG sucks. They cannot even handle getting the fluff right. They cannot copypaste.

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>>85877083
>Firewarrior

That game was hilarious. The lasrifle was a vulcan cannon that fired jello.

Kais was both the luckiest and unluckiest bastard in the universe. He kills enough people to make Khorne blush.

Not to mention the whole game was Kais's first day on the job.

>>85867049
Are you an idiot? The Emperor is manifesting his power in reality where the Chaos Gods don't have much power. The HH series established, that the Emperor cannot confront the Chaos Gods directly. He would be straight up murdered if he tried.

>>85867468
Post it please.

Did GW ever do anything with the 2 lost legions? I know the game reason why they left those two out, but fluff wise?

>>85877233
The book implies Khorne was guiding him along. Also it has a habit of suddenly detouring into like 3 pages of sudden unexpected detail about some random guard's life, his goals, his aspirations and his history, what he stands for and what his talents are, all so that Kais can casually blow his brains out and keep skipping along.

>>85877233
Preemptive strike post.

Kais was not possessed by Khorne. It was a Tzeentchian daemon who was influencing him and all he did was act as a daemonic cheerleader to prevent Kais from giving up.

In fact, it was the Tzeentchian daemon lord who was possessed by Khorne in the end fight.

>>85877233
What your opinion on the novel's making it clear that he managed to kill all those people and a Lord of Change because Khorne possessed him?

>>85877101
>Explorators
Sometimes I forget how retarded this franchise gets with naming things. I still like it, but it's a bit stupid either way.

>>85877279
You

>>85877284

I knew it. A fucking moron who hasn't rad the book implying things that were never implied or were there.

Me? I am not implying things. I am straight out say that you lying bastard who parrots things without checking the sources. A form of cancer on any fandom.

It's bloody hard to dislodge the fanfiction that Kais was guided by Khorne because of people like you.

>>85877253
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
40k -> Codices -> Older Edition -> Codex Imperialis 2e

>>85877298
He wasn't possessed by anything.

The only encounter with anything Khornate was when Khorne took over the Lord of Change in the end fight.

Seriously, you guys have the reading skills of children.

>>85877314
I ain't downloading it on my phone. Take a picture of it and posted here.

>>85877083
It's probably been a while, but the most recent Tau thing I recall being discussed on /tg/ was the Imperium of Man sending a Eversor to kill a Tau Ethereal.

Needless to say, the assassin succeeded.

>>85876918
Kind of.

He wound up in a Necron Tomb excavation site, that went SNAFU, everybody there died except him, and he only managed to survive by risking this Necron portal that sent him to a Necron ship that just happened to be raided by the Marines at teh time.

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>>85877339

>>85877349
THAT'S MIGHTY COINCIDENTAL, WOULDN'T YOU SAY?

>>85877279
>>85877284
>>85877298
There was a book? I just though the game was funny.

I guess I'll have to give it a read.

>>85877342
>Needless to say, the assassin succeeded.

Needless to say, you are dead wrong. Like I said, reading skills of children.

It was a Culexus assassin. All other assassins failed in killing the Tau commanders.

>>85877355
SAVED.

Thank you.

>>85877314
>white dwarf issues
Fuck, nice. Needed those.

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>>85877359
>Reading Black Library novels.
As dumb as following 40k fluff during and post-Ward

>>85877098
Huron, all going renegade got you was half your body shot away and being forced to suck up to and play politics with the Eye of Terror crowd.

>>85877083
Unless you're an Eldar fan then you're pretty shit outta luck when it comes to Xenos fluff.

>>85877385
Shut up, hipster. The codexes just give the framework of the setting. It's the novels that give it the meat.

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>>85877204
>>85877163

> No mention of sex

Do people even bang in 40k?

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>>85877342
I recall that too. Fun times. Still, I'm in the mood for an actual story, which again means I should just actually read the few stories out first and not just the shorter fluff stuff and wikis.

>>85877366
I feel like we just had this conversation up thread.

>>85877366
Look m8, I just saw the picture of a skull guy psychically killing a Ethereal. Sorry my misinformation triggers your autism.

>>85877359
Yes, the novel is good and more grounded. One of the best Tau novels but it's obviously dated when it comes to lore.

>>85877407
Fucking is allowed in the imperial guard, in fact none of the institutions of the imperium are chaste except space marines, who are biologically incapable. Even the sisters of the ecclesiarchy are allowed to fuck, although most of the time they're too busy screaming about the glory of the emperor to take advantage of it. In some cases, like the death corps of krieg and cadia, it's actively encouraged to fuck as much as possible so more baby soldiers can be popped out.

>>85877407
No, they blam.

>>85877426
How can you confuse an Culexus with a Eversor?

Look here >>85877424. Does that look like an Eversor? Does Eversor have mental powers? No!

Being astounded at someone's bottomless stupidity is a universal trait of all mankind. It's facepalming at failure!

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>>85870005
>assassins don't exactly grow on trees either.
not a bad idea...

>>85866888
Also Starship Troopers.

>>85877479
Get back into your pokeball.

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>>85877508
the only way they could explain these things as balanced, basically there shards of khaine (eldar avatars) but shards of c'tan gods.

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>>85870043
Would a blank effect the Ork's psychic field that makes their shoddy weapons and vehicles work?

Like if you placed one in the middle of a Ork army would all their weapons and war machines start breaking down?

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>>85866888
>>85866990

Semi related everyone should watch Jodorowsky's Dune If they haven't already.

>>85877561
IN.POKE.BALL.NOW.

Seriously why is current 40k lore so shit? I remember back in 3rth/4rth edition we had consistency and pretty good lore writters.

Now its just completely shit, retcons everywhere and everyone is doing whatever they want.

>>85877588
The orks have their own, private version of the warp that works by pooling their collective powers instead of drawing them from somewhere else. Since they're not traditional psykers, they aren't affected by blanks.

>>85877588
>Like if you placed one in the middle of a Ork army would all their weapons and war machines start breaking down?

Did the Shadow in the Warp ruin the Orks ability to field weapons and machines? No.

>>85877561
They could have done it in a less humiliating way. The way they did seems like the writers hated the C'tan and Oldcron fans.

>>85856500

If there's overacting, this is definitely underacting

>>85877646
>The orks have their own, private version of the warp that works by pooling their collective powers instead of drawing them from somewhere else.

They don't. The Waaagh! effect is the Ork energies in the Warp.

And you are a dumbass. Pariah assassins were sent to kill Ork psykers. In fact, in the Beast Waaagh!, the Imperium dug up the last remaining Sisters of Silence and sent them to hunt down and kill the super charged Ork Weirdboyz.

>>85877588
No. Ork tech functions regardless, the Waaagh! Field makes it work better than it should. Also, blanks run on a power scale; ones that would be able to disrupt psychic abilities beyond themselves or immediate vicinity are rare.

>>85877700
Also the Sisters of Silence (All Pariahs to a woman), were feared by the Orks. The Orks couldn't stand their soulless aura and sought to destroy them.

The effect is tenfold and fatally crippling for Ork weirdboyz.

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>>85877098
>limitless power for oneself
>without becoming tainted by the ruinous powers

Yeah, sorry bud, but I got news for ya...

>>85877470
Anon, you seriously need to have your autism checked out and possibly have an assistant assigned to you. It's clearly starting to interfere with your ability to function in day to day life.

>>85877098
That reminds me.

Loyal Imperial Techpriests don't develop new technologies on a fast pace because of rituals, fear of Chaos possession, need of ritualization, fear of AI and other fundamentalist dogma that slows down advancement.

But the Chaos Techpriests literally have none of those worries and can stuff demons into their tech.

So why hasn't Chao's techpriests invented weaponry that surpasses even Dark Age tech yet?

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>you will never march into glorious battle and purge xenos in the name of the God Emperor

>>85877818
And you seriously need to be less triggered by being called out on an anonymous board. You fucked up. Now go away be wrong somewhere else.

>>85877818
What is it about 40k that attracts the hardcore autists? Like, almost sonic-tier autists. There's a few of them on /tg/ too.

>>85877838
>So why hasn't Chao's techpriests invented weaponry that surpasses even Dark Age tech yet?

They did. They invented Planet Killer. It's the mightiest space vessel in the galaxy, that we known of.

>>85877838
Because they're fucking Chaos nutters, man. It's why Chaos hasn't ever really managed to do anything but launch 12 ineffectual and 1 slightly less ineffectual crusade since they blindsided the Imperium with Horus.

They're to busy just making sex toys/guns that shoot aids/guns that shoot blood/guns that shoot yourself in the past to make anything actually practically effective.

>>85856500
>Showing the Imperial Faggots instead of the Emperor's Chosen: The Ultramarines
The Ultramarines should have been shown. They are the Space Marines that everyone remembers. They're the only ones with a pure gene-seed, the Inferior Fists lack two, what have they done? Failed to protect the Emperor and Holy Terra, when the Ultramarines would have succeeded. These yellows should be purged. Fuck this film.

>>85877902
>Just want to invent shit
>join Chaos because fuck Imperial dogma
>nearly invent a practical new technology
>fellow Hereteks stuffs a Tzeentch demon in it and it goes haywire, destroying your lab and killing most of your assistants

>>85877902
>Because they're fucking Chaos nutters, man. It's why Chaos hasn't ever really managed to do anything but launch 12 ineffectual and 1 slightly less ineffectual crusade since they blindsided the Imperium with Horus.

Oh look. Someone who hasn't read the fluff but thinks he knows stuff.

The Black Crusades were crippling to the Imperium and each one sent it reeling. Because of pressure of these crusades, the Imperium cannot focus on the myriad other threats probably. The Imperium is collapsing because of it.

It's called the Long War for a reason. The 12 Black Crusade were about smashing holes in the Imperium and building up for the 13th Black Crusade which is a Chaos invasion that dwarfs the HH. Against this, the Imperium is dying. The fluff outright tells you this is the last days of the Imperium.

>>85877700
>>85877746
This sounds like some new age fluff bullshit from BL.
Or am I mistaken?

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>>85877965
threats properly*

Tl;dr the Traitor Legions are winning the Long War.

>>85877838
Because outside the dogmatism, bureaucracy and restrictions, the DarkMech have all the same problems as the AdMech compounded by a lack of resources, failsafes, and safeguards regarding dangerous research. Sticking daemons in your tech is dangerous no matter how many safeguards you have in place. Also being a heretek doesn't mean you're necessarily good at your job, just that you don't follow the rules.

>>85877965
I'm sorry anon, I just wanted to make an aids gun joke.