Only you /co/, would regard love as a weakness.

Why haven't we got a live action Gargoyles movie yet?

>>85848595
Why do we need one?

>>85848576
Only Goliath could get cucked by his own clone.

Love is a false emotion made by chocolate and card companies as an excuse to sell stuff to gullible people.

>>85848630
Why not?

>>85848672
Shut the fuck up, Boco.

>>85848690
>Reddit and Memey

>>85848693

Yes sir...

>>85848672
>>85848690
Who hurt you?

>>85848672

Since you obviously don't care about the topic of this thread Boco would you like to hear a joke instead?

Archie Mega Man's hiatus

>>85848690
>le cool foul-mouthed rational old cynic

>>85848595

Having just watched the entire thing, there's too much plot to stick into a trilogy. Even if you get rid of side-stuff like the Avalon World Tour and just stick to the big story-lines that's going to take 4 or 5 movies to tell.

That show is Deepest Lore: The Series.

>>85848822
It is one of the few works of fiction to do time travel right, featuring not one but TWO fully self-contained bootstrap paradoxes.

>>85848756

Sniff...

>>85848887

I was surprised at how well the Phoenix Gate story-lines worked, all things considered.

Hell, I was surprised at how well all of it worked. Considering how far the show crawled up its own ass with the Oberon plotline in the back-half of S2 it should have collapsed in on itself but they manged to make all of it fit together.

>>85848963
Based Weisman anon.

The guy is just smart.

>>85849004
> was

>>85849034
Ok Young Justice is overhyped, but I still have faith he'll bring us some more quality work in the future.

>>85848576
One of the best eps...Xanatos almost got raped.

>>85848963
Just imagine how things would have been if Weisman got to do his Timedancer spinoff...

HEROES GOTICOS

>>85849218
I'm actually glad that none of the backdoor pilots from the Avalon world tour arc got off the ground. I understand that they had to pad their episode count but they all kinda sucked.

>>85849258
With a little room to expand on things and flesh them out, it would have been better.

>>85849258
Most of them suckered but I would love to see Timedancer and Bad Guys.

>>85849319
*Sucked

>>85849218

Gargoyles Quantum Leap sounds breddy gud.

>>85849258

>not wanting to watch a show about Dingo the shitposter and his nano-machine armor suit going around Australia fighting crime

Jokes aside I get where you're coming from, outside of Timedancer the rest of them seem kind of stale.

I can't imagine a single person being interested in more of the New Olympians.

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I gotta post my Gargoyles secret sauce!

>>85849361
I cannot see Dingo, as he is, being interesting. The really only interesting-as-is thing is the London Clan. I'm not just saying that cuz I want to slay the hell outta Una and Coco (big factor, though...). It would just be a nice change of scenery to have a series in the same world that focuses on another group far away.

>>85849319
>>85849361
I would at least liked to see more of the Illuminati big bad or at least explained what was going on between them.

>>85849440
Yeah, it kinda felt like Disney was all "Check it out: WE'VE got the Illuminati, too...that's all. We're not going anywhere with this."

>>85848630
So there's new interest in the franchise and a revival of the proper series is actually possible.

Fuck, I'd settle with another Gargoyles comic book.

>>85849436
I actually loathed everything about the international gargoyles. Yes, I get it, human mythology is full of gargoyles and fae. Local gods? Fae. Heraldic beasts? Gargoyles. It is both unnecessary and counterproductive to make every single fucking thing in mythology a gargoyle or a fairy, and that includes the British fucking gargoyles being the heraldic lion and unicorn of the British fucking crown.

There are no griffons but there's a gargoyle that looks like one, which is clearly the source of all griffons in medieval literature.

Feathered serpents figure prominently into your mythology? Quetzalcoatl was a gargoyle all along!

Oh, your tribe used to worship animal spirits? Guess they were just gargoyles that looked like animals! Unless they were actually fairies pretending to be gargoyles that looked like animals because now you've boxed yourself into a narrative dead end where every fucking fantastic thing in the world is a gargoyle or a fairy.

>>85849319
Bad Guys was pretty good from the mini that came out. I was surprised at how dark it got at times.

>>85850034
Babby's first Suicide Squad.

Real love is a strength that allows you to overcome many things.

Fake love is what the world tries to sell you on.

>>85850056
Literally the only thing they have in common is being a villain-led team.

>>85850056
Which is just the Dirty Dozen for supervillains.

>>85849405

>Owen would have sex with Xanatos is he asked, but it would never happen because Xanatos would find Owen too boring

I feel like Puck would be into some pretty kinky stuff, honestly.

>Tom and Princess Katherine fucked like rabbits on Avalon

Tom had it pretty good. A MILF girlfriend, knight training and living with a bunch of Gargoyles on his own little paradise island.

>>85849440

The Illuminati story-line was the one hit hardest with the spinoff stick.

>>85850034
>>85850056
>>85850107
>>85850149
Greg REALLY wants to do a villain protagonist project.

http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=20725

>>85849949
I was fine with the Gargoyle part, but the Third Race fell apart in it's execution(they really shouldn't have had any of the gods seen during the World Tour arc be members of the Third Race)

>>85849258
>pad their episode count
on the contrary. disney fucked with them.
at the beginning of season 2's production they were like "nice job. give us 65 episodes for season 2, we'll air it this year"
the team was like "uh, shit, that's impossible in that time frame"
disney said "well if you can't give us 65, all you get is 13. fuck you"
the team agreed and started working on the next season
then disney came back and said "no. give us 65. that's an order"
so they scrambled like fucking crazy to make as much as they could, roping in a bunch of other studios, wrote a ton of plots, but.. this is all they could manage
so no, they weren't padding the episode number out, they actually wanted to make more. they got cut off by the realities of getting that much done in that short a time. The avalon tour felt long not because it actually was, but because the non-avalon-tour parts of the season didn't have time to exist, and because it had a big-ass hiatus in the middle when there simply weren't any more finished episodes to air

>>85848595

It's not 90's enough

>>85849949
i agree with, but disagree with, but agree with, but disagree with this post
for the record, weisman has said not all the monsters were inspired by gargoyles, it was somehow the other way around. he admits he doesn't know shit about how evolution works, despite being a devoted adherent to it

>>85848595
Would be butchered beyond belief. Too much stuff to fit in and there's some elements they would probably want to change. Like adding in a Demona/Goliath/Elisa love triangle or something.

>>85849405
Is this real?
And yet he won't say if Gargoyles poop.

>>85851994
the stone that shoots off their bodies when they wake up is their poop

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Would you do it /co/?

Brodway best garg

>>85852926
No
Goliath is the best Gargoyle though

>>85852926
That isn't Hudson or Brooklyn.

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>>85848672
>muh conspiracy posts
i bet you think 9/11 was an inside job too.

Love is no weakness.

Love is love.

It is harbl.

And harbl is the strongest thing there is.

...this classic meme reference doin' anything for you?

>>85853473
It's a little too dsfar for my geg, if I'm bring honest.

>>85850307
>Sandman, Black Cat, and Prowler
>Silver Sable likely too

Fuck, I'd watch that.

>>85853495

Shit. V-TEC hasn't kicked in yet, I guess.

>>85848647
He wanted nothing to do with Demons by that time, if anything Demons was because he wanted a clone hybrid side bitch

Who's the worst gargoyle and why is it lexington

>>85853582
Griff.

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>>85853582
>not loving little green ball of condensed fury and malice
>not wanting to protect his smile

shiggydiggy

>>85848647
seems like if you had a clone, one of you getting cucked by the other would be inevitable

>>85853767

Well, there's always two of you just a-hangin' around.

Most people who watched it would love to see it return

>>85855374
That's the problem. Disney isn't interested in selling it to the people who watched it. I only found it on youtube a few years ago when I was already (just) outside of their audience range. Most people who watched it aren't the demographics they're after. Disney has no desire to advertise it to younger kids even though I think it would still do well and maybe find an audience on one of their male centered channels like Disney XD.

>>85848595
No demand. Its fandom is nowhere and never was near TMNT levels.

>>85855394
I always hold out hope that Disney might want to compete with the 90s revival YA genre that all the studios are doing and try a Gargoyles movie. Could work well in that genre, with a little tinkering and aesthetic updating for live action. Elisa would probably have to take center stage because of CGI costs and relatability that studios crave, though she already was, next to Goliath, probably the most important character on the show. Unlike other franchises that have a lot of focus on the humans, she was incredibly important to the main plot and it wouldn't feel shoe horned.

>>85855483
Yeah but it would probably look like shit, because to appeal to teenagers it would need to go full edge with the designs.
Assumption is that teenagers aren't going to buy a purple friendly gargoyle with Lorenzo Lamas hair.

See: Elliot and the Dragon.

>>85848672
So then why do you get neither chocolates nor cards from anyone? Who hurt you m8

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>>85848576
Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another

>>85848672
Love is only an emotion that exists for humans, tripfag.

>>85855511
There probably would be redesigns but if they're done right it's not a huge problem. Goliath could still be a darker purple color and have a long mane of hair.

I was born when this show was released so I didn't grow up watching it. I only discovered it when i was like thirteen or fourteen from the nostalgia critic,
Is it the same with anyone else, are there any fans under 21?

>>85855895

If there are, they're not gonna out themselves here. Pretty sure underage b& is still a thing.

>>85855895
I'm in almost the same situation as you, anon. Didn't grow up watching the show but found it as a teenager. I'm probably younger than most fans around but I'm way out of the age range the show was aimed at.

>>85850257
>I feel like Puck would be into some pretty kinky stuff, honestly

irrelevant since Xanatos already made the deal. He's be the submissive one but not really able to do anything

>>85855694

Hey! I'm human!

Mostly...

>>85855942
Yeah Weisman said he was pansexual in his Puck form but asexual in his Owen form. He's pretty much stuck as Owen all the time now so the only time he'll ever get any action is if Xanatos tells him to and according to >>85849405 Xanatos doesn't want those services

>>85848595
Have you seen Ninja turtle by Bay? Do you want it to be like that?

>>85855995

Don't you even joke about that shit.

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>>85848576
Yes and?

What is love?

>>85856111

Love is a mass of incandescent gas.

>>85848595
http://www.craveonline.com/site/668889-gargoyles-the-movie-is-coming-in-2017#/slide/1
because it's in production.

>>85856111

Baby don't hurt me.

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>>85856111
Something that is different for everyone and no one

That's what sucks about humans and how we are both raised and how we interact with each other to perceive love

In terms of most things in the world there is a play book. You want lots of things? A car? A home? You need money. How do you get money? Work, theft or begging. The first is usually the smartest so then you start breaking down what you are willing to do and not do and you frame your future of money earnings and then get your rewards if you are smart, but no matter what most things are bought with money and there is a system of getting it.

But childhood friends? Friends that last? To get that one that will always have your back? That one that be there when the world gets just a little to hard? To find a lover that will always love you? Kiss you randomly to show you affection? Giggles and when you ask why they just tell you they are so happy being with you? A person to even just give you a dating chance?
There is no rule book, no order of operation, what works for one won't work for a hundred others and what works for a hundred may never work for you. So it becomes this hellish game of trail and error, except that with each error it attacks your self esteem, your self worth, hell it makes you hurt and you can't even answer why but your brain demands an answer because everything else in the world has a reason, an order to it.
That's why the topic of friendship, relationships, sex and love, as well as how to obtain them, is always a loaded gun in western society.

That a good enough answer anon?

>>85856201
I can't really say it's a good or a bad answer. I posted the question just to get a glimpse of people's personal definition of it. So far we've had your definition of love as something that's different for each individual, Boco being a retard with a song, and someone that likens love to the sun.

Love is like the sun.

It BURNS US PRECIOUS

>>85853601
But Griff is a bro.

>>85856242
Kek'd. Well played.

>>85856111
Instinct demanding you to hang around someone and service them in various ways because you instinctively believe something good might come out of it be it recipotory services, mating or survival of your young. Romanticized because humans can't help but romanticize their irrational and barely rational urges.

Who would be ideal choices to cast everyone?

>>85856127
Love is miasma of incandescent plasma.

>>85860074
Salli Richardson as Elisa
Keith David voicing the cgi Goliath

>>85849405
Christ. Being Magus is suffering.

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>>85848595
QUESTION: What director would /co/ like to see direct the modern Gargoyles movie? What would it look like if Stanly Kubrick was in charge?

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>>85860074
Goliath - Patrick Stewart
Brooklyn - John DeLanci
Broadway - Diana Muldaur
Lexington - Wil Wheaton
Hudson - Whoopi Goldberg
Angela - Denise Crosby
Demona - Marina Sirtis
Xanatos - Jonathan Frakes
Detective Elisa - Gates McFadden
Coldstone - Micheal Dorn
Puck - Brent Spiner
Anansi - LeVar Burton

>>85861214
i don't think it would be very good if he directed

>>85856145
Damn you for getting my hopes up. Looks like this was an April Fools prank.

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>>85856111
Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope. Love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticle, and together, achieving a singular purpose, against statistically long odds.

>implying love ISN'T a weakness

LMAO, literally every drive influenced by an external source is a weakness

If I was to remake this show, then the gargoyles always had names, but when they where turned to stone for a millenium, another spell was cast on them which gets them to understand the language of the era they awaken in, the only trade off is that they forget their names and the names of everybody they have ever known (still remember everything though) and thus rename themselves after new york.

is this show at least getting new fans?

>>85864331
How logical. The whole "no names, but we have names for interacting with humans" thing seemed unnecessary.

>>85864572
>>85864572
yeah, also demona s the only one who remebers her name and their name, this causes goliath to become suspicious and thats how they find out her dark past

>>85852926
Hudson and Goliath are the best, though.

>>85848595
they won't get xanatos right.

>>85864503
Maybe people that discover it via Young Justice or something.

It's a shame SSM or even WITCH don't enjoy that kind of popularity.

>>85865254
This. Imagine Jesse Eisenberg with a goatee.

>>85849949
Makes sense to me. Dugongs were the basis for mermaids, so the cartoon's origin for other mythical creatures fits.

>>85855972
Didn't he say Owen had a girlfriend?

>>85867789
It's interesting you mention that since Mermaids are also gargoyles.

>>85868521
Yes. He did. Wonder what her story is. Owen doesn't seem like the type to have many personal attachments.

>>85868778
She's either a beard that plays eye candy for social functions or she allows Owen to express some of his inner Puck.

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>>85868778
He's got kind of an Egon Spengler thing going on. Some girls dig that.

Pic oh so very related.

>>85856201
Good answer, anon.
It reminds me why I try.

>>85849405
> Xanatos isn't 100% heterosexual
> Owen would have sex with Xanatos is he asked

Yes, good.

>>85869277
I think the real question is, would Xanatos have sex with Fox while she's a werewolf?

>>85869343
He'll do anything as long as it's "interesting"
so yes

>>85853582

Wasn't there a reveal that Lexington was gay? That never made sense to me, he was all goo-goo over Fox when he met The Pack.

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>>85848576
>implying

>>85869391
He's retroactively gay because it's [current year].

Weisman's a liar if he claims that Lexington was always written gay.

>>85853293
A million times this. Hudson best husbando.

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>>85869277
>Implying that Xanatos doesn't lust for Goliath's big, powerful, gargoyle body.

We all know Xanatos wanted that giant purple peen since their first encounter, best ship of the show desu.

>>85848576
But, OP, /co/ IS love.

>>85869427
Okay, that makes a lot more sense. Dude was into Fox something fierce, her being a hot redhead I could understand.

>>85869559
Nah, I'm pretty sure if xanatos wanted to bone goliath he'd be able to with some grand xanatos gambit

>>85869559
Sorry anon, but boss/henchman is the superior type of ship.

>>85869559
>Xanatos has massive daddy issues
>Goliath is a massive daddy

actually makes sense.

>>85852926

Reminder that Broadway won the Angelabowl.

Brooklynfags blown the fuck out.

>>85861214

>twenty minutes of no dialogue at both ends of the movie
>Roaring classical soundtrack
>Goliath is in the midst of an existential crisis
>Brooklyn stares at a white painting
>Eliza gets rapped
>Xanatos kills the world
>whole film is put together from five slow, agonizing unbroken shots

I'd.....honestly give it a watch.

>>85863039

You're.....not incorrect....

You do know gay men idolize women, right?

He was starstruck, it wasn't a crush.

>>85869427
Weisman mentioned Lexington was gay long before the current SJW and even wrote that in the canon comics.

>>85871283
>>85871325

Don't be such a fucking millennial. "The current SJW" is a phenomenon of the explosion of easy to access social media, but the attitude that predicated it gained cachet in the mid 2000s... which, shockingly enough, is when Weisman decided that Lexington was gay!

>>85868970
>He's got kind of an Egon Spengler thing going on.

They are cute and you just know that under all that nerdiness, they are into some really freaky stuff.

>>85848576
Why was Goliath so based? he is literally husbando bait incarnate.

>>85875090
If you love him so much why don't you marry him?

>>85875268
Gargoyle marriage shouldn't be legal!

>>85875090
Keith David is the platonic ideal of black masculinity.

>>85875309
But Goliath is purple.

>>85875268
Bitch I would if I could. I am eternally salty about my lack of a gargoyle bf.

>>85875368
Bitch, that voice is pure chocolate. DARK chocolate.

>>85875302
Castaway pls go

>>85850103
Tell that to the mid-life crisis losers at Marvel

>>85871325
http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=4663

Interesting he had ideas about it dating back to 2000 if we go by this post.

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>>85848595
Because it would be awful and you know it. Movie gargoyles don't have a good track record.

I aught to watch The Last Sentinel again, just for David's performance as the talking gun.

>>85879339
well dragon movies had an awful track record untill how to train your dragon 1 and 2 ( I still think thats the only good film that revolves around dragons, whats petes dragon like is it overrated or just ok?)

>>85864331
I'd probably just go with "Gargoyles do have names, but they're in their race's original tongue, which isn't physically able to be spoken by humans" or something like that

>>85869559
don't know about that, although I do think he did legitimately want to be their friend and ally initially, only changing his mind due to both realizing that they had less flexible morals than he did, and because of Demona's prodding(he still would have made the Steel Clan no matter what, Demona was the one who insisted using the others as live targets)

>>85875090
>>85875309
>>85875608
I am completely straight, and even I'll admit Goliath is a hunk

>>85869559
Xanatos just wants to keep Goliath doing his dirty work while not realizing it. He has a thing for proving himself smart enough to manipulate everyone around him into working against themselves while doing exactly what he wants.

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Love is the bane of honor, the death of duty. What is honor compared to a woman's love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms,or the memory of a brothers smile?

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>>85861214
Isn't the obvious answer Guillermo del Toro?

>>85880913
He would spazz out over all the third race stuff and you know it.

>>85848887
HA HA HA !!!
Nope.
Who saved the archmage from falling to his death in the unaltered timeline ???
He never got the pheonix gate !!!

>>85848595
It'd feel rushed. Xanatos alone I feel takes time to flesh out and avoid making him another evil white businessman. Macbeth and Demona's stories also are too lengthy.

>>85848672
>Boco being a faggoty edgelord

Color me surprised.

>>85882062
>unaltered timeline
you don't understand loops, do you?