ITT: Characters who don't fit

I feel the same about batman OP. Writers can't help wanking to him and jobbing the other heroes.


Based John's isnt any better. He just goes a complete 180 in the opposite direction and it's still a turn off.

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Their marriage

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these outdated fags. Even Claremont couldn't make them interesting

>>85829848
Regarding a JL Batman, so far I've found Moore's approach the easiest to digest from FTMWHE, namely
>Yeah, I'm going to stay here and not die until I can actually think of something
Instead of just being impossibly prepared for things the plot guides to his convenience. Of course he couldn't manage much at the time, but it's the idea that counts.

Even better when his sidekicks also actually prove to be useful besides just being a younger carbon copy of him. Jason getting sneaky and using the Black Mercy on Mongul was very clever and characteristic.

>>85829869
>fags

Whoa with the edge there.

Obligatory X-men post

>>85830046
I always thought they would work best in there own universe.

>>85830649
They worked just fine in regular Marvel until the writers forgot that Marvel civilians weren't exactly friendly to Avengers either. Or any other heroes.

>>85829869
Kill them all but leave Mr. Fantastic as a tortured quasi-villain

>>85829869

The Fantastic Four would be better off in the DC universe. They don't fit in Marvel because they're happy most of the time

>>85830697
Please the whole point of the maker was to show how pathetic he is right to the point where molecule man sliced him up. Ewing is doing him right.

>>85830675
Which auctualy seems to be getting fixed in champions
I mean it was stupid to begin with but at least it allowed x men in rhe same universe

>>85829832
Batman needs to go.

He shouldnt be so high in the hierarchy if he's just a normal human. The whole idea of him "doing anything because I'm a human" sounds more of a villain's motive than a hero's.

>superman and batman drop in on a church doing shady things
>priests summon flame elementals
>superman starts bitching about how he cant punch fire
>batman comes in and tells him to use his ice breath
Really?

>>85829869
I like that Sue costume.

>>85830765
I dunno broken Reed who dress up as Doom to use his lab in Earth X was pretty cool to see.

>>85829869
Claremont couldn't make a lot of things interesting. There are plenty of things outside his celebrated X-Men run that he basically phoned-in and didn't add much of value, or even added things that detracted from a franchise, like the H'ylthri in Iron Fist.

That is the point of SENTRY , he isn't supposed to fit.

Sentry is a great character when he isn't introduced into the regular canon. If you read his series the underlying question was if he was actually just an insane person imagining he was a hero. He works very well as a character in his own universe that is tangentially related to the rest of Marvel

The only time he really worked well with everyone else was in Dark Avengers when he was just a blithering idiot who was insane and trying to fight back his murderous alternate reality.

>>85829869
The FF went through periods of boring, inconsequential stories, but those periods are usually between genre defining, genuinely great arcs.
I think the main problem is that there's nothing left to explore.
Even Hickman's run, as much as I enjoyed it, was basically continuity porn and there's only so much you can do with that kind o f thing.

Ultimate FF was really the only way it could play out, with the permanent break down of the family unit and one of them turning into a villain.

>>85829832
The Sentry was supposed to be out of place. They reveled the character in an April Fools issue of Wizard. The concept was introduced as the Sentry being a Pre-Fantastic Four Marvel character that they found in the back of Jack Kirby's desk drawer or something.

Was it Bendis that made Sentry regular canon?

>>85829832
The Sentry was always supposed to be out of place. His first (and back then, supposedly only) series was basically one big "Why superman wouldn't work in the Marvel Universe" (Protip: They're flawed. Sentry was basically an alcoholic with delusions of grandeur). It was only until Bendis decided he wanted a Superman analogue on his New Avengers, that Sentry was introduced into "regular" Marvel. And then he did nothing with Sentry for years, except joking around why he can't be used.

>>85830883
He wasn't a bad guy there

>>85831545
>>85831146
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>>85831042

Why the fuck is he in Marvel canon. He is part of it now. Fucking Remender even confirmed it by including his bullshit horsemen of death.

>>85830727
That's like saying Batman would work better in Marvel because he's mostly unhappy.