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God Fucking Damn It Waid...

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Champions will be more social tumblr justice propaganda.
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>>85783774
EAT IT, OLD MAN
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>>85783774
>expecting anything less from Waid
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>>85783774
This is your fault, /co/.
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>>85783774
It could be good thats basicly what the teen titans did for a while
But yeah more likely it will be sjw shit.
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Hell yeah
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>>85783774
What'd you expect? At least they're not wasting one of their few good artists on it
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>>85783774
>34%
Recharge your battery, OP.
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You people get triggered by the most innocuous shit I swear to god.
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Good to know. Another potential new Marvel title out of my list. Keep going, Marvel. Keep going.
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>>85783774
>Trusting SJWaid
You deserve your pain, anon.
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Why is Waid so desperate to seem hip and in with the kids?
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Sounds like one hell of an entertaining comic
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>>85783774
so they have a squad of super-powered individuals devoted to re-enforcing their political beliefs through force? isn't that...facist?
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>>85783774
>>85783774
>>85783816
>>85783818
>>85783863
>>85783868
>>85783882
>>85783894
>>85783903
>>85783920


>A superhero team dedicated to "battle injustice in whatever form that takes" and "dealing with anyone and everyone who tries actively to make the world worse or stop impornat change from happeneing"
>somehow a bad thing

What happened to /co/?

Did we forget that this is the genre of Golden Age Superman, The Authority, the Doom Patrol and The X-Men? Since when is a mandate of Here Comes Tomorrow and Injustice =Bad something to bitch about?
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>Aging autist trying to remain Hip and Cool and Relevant

What else did you expect?
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>>85783920

I dunno.

It seems to be the same with Busiek.

Was he always like that, or did the weird complaining about the creative team of Astro City not being diverse enough cause him to start overcompensating?
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>>85783774
>kid hitler
>joins a team that's going to be going around beating up corrupt congressmen and creating international incidents

you have my attention
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>>85783923
No, common misconception, for it to be facsict it would have to be done by a state.

Superheroes are just immensely powerful vigilantes most of them time , unless they are deputized as a non state actor akin to feudal systems , monastic orders, shaolin temples , pinkertons, jedi and the like.
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>>85783937
Have fun reading an arc dedicated to beating up Gamergoopers :^)
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So Tykeclops is embracing Rightclops?
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>Mark Waid
He really is a Strange Fruit, this one.
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>>85783774
>Marvel's Teen Authority

I can dig it
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>>85783937
Wow, this place really is /co/mblr.
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>>85783994
Republicans.
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>>85783879

Two bricks.
Two kinds sorta shape shifters?

this team is bad
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>>85783994
Same thing most supes are about, only instead of faffing about with just capes and superhero shit they will deal with ALL injustice on the planet, like The Authority.
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>About dealing with anyone and everyone who tries actively to make the world worse or to stop important change from happening

What exactly does this mean?

>>85784011
Ah. Of course.
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>>85783937
This ain't the Golden Age nor is it DC.

Have fun watching The Kiddie Avengers fight the evil MRA while Cyclops apologizes for his straight white penis.
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>>85783937
Because demonizing & hurting rich people, police & republicans on general principle isn't justice it's irrational victim complex fueled sadism.
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>>85784010
>Golden Age Superman, The Authority, the Doom Patrol and The X-Men
>Injustice =bad
>/co/mblr
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>>85783774
I for one welcome our new Chulk overlords
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>>85784024
That makes me concerned the kinds of 'injustice' they're going to be fighting against / using their powers against is ordinary people who don't buy into progressiveness or left ideals, not actually evil but simply in disagreement (but will nonetheless be shown in a villainous light)

Also, isn't this what Occupy Avengers is already tackling apparently? The quote "Boss Hogs" unquote of the nation?
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>>85784039
>>85784038
What the hell are you guys taking about ?
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>>85783937
I think the problem is that "battling injustice" has started to mean "insult a seventeen year old on twitter for starting his own business selling candles" rather than anything of actual value or moral standing.
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>>85783879
>A Mutant a Pakistani, a korean, a pakistani girl, a black puerto rican ,a hispanic and a robot have adventures putting the world in the bottle

I can dig it.
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>Not fighting the Circud of Crime

All I wanted was teenagers having colorful adventures.

IS THAT SO WRONG?
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>>85784051
>Golden-Age Superman
Yeah man, because pic related is totally something the SJWs would love and not try and censor.

>The Authority
Literally Who

>Doom Patrol
Literally Who

>X-men
The "racism is bad because of this failed allegory that only proves that it isn't" was always the worst part of the franchise.

>Injustice
>hating on based NAAAAAARGH
Fuck off, /co/mblr.
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You realize that if they're not dealing with the regular supervillain shit then that means there's less reason for them to have to be involved in the shitty events that happen each year right?
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>>85784179
>The Authority
>Literally Who
>Doom Patrol
>Literally Who
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>>85784104
This book is blatant SJW pandering leftist propaganda and needs to be stopped.
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>>85783774
>>>/pol/
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>>85783774
yes, it's going to be a flop
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>>85784020

>caring about powers over personalities

>>85784129

except not?
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>>85784123
This. "Battling injustice" is a codeword for "treating straight white men as pure evil monsters that need to be cleansed." Expect every "villain" they fight to be a Trump or Gamergate parody.
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>>85784179
You have the most shit taste ever.
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>>85784104
They're making (somewhat justified) assumptions about the types of folks that will be portrayed as villains.
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>>85784179
don't reply to troll
Doom Patrol was NEVER about SJW shit
The Authority were killing Husseins of their world and muslims (NOT SJW shit)

X-Men had sympathetic villains (Magneto-EVIL JEW, Senator Kelly-not even a villain)
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>>85784038
>Cyclops apologizes for his straight white penis.
But cyclops is a trans lesbian girl
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>>85784276
The X-Men were literally fighting freemasonry (Hellfire Club). It's baffling that anyone would consider X-Men SJW
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What the fuck, where he is talking about sjws in this pic, OP?
Really, enlighten me. I can't understand how what he said means "Champions will be more social tumblr justice propaganda".
I just can't.
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>>85784196
>there's less reason for them to have to be involved in the shitty events that happen each year right?
You know damn fucking well they'll still get them involved, for fucks sake they're building this book to be the flagship of marvel now 2.0
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>>85784179
>Golden-Age Superman
The years of the Siegel and Shuster run were Superman beating up labor bosses, warmongering congressman, foreign dictators, Coal mine operators, slum lords, the fbi,the Governor, arms dealers, racists and wife beaters.

In fact Superheroes didn't consistently become establishment figures UNTIL world war 2
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>>85784308
What does freemasonry have to with the SJWs? I try and stay out of this /pol/ vs. tumblr culture war that kids these days are all into, so excuse my ignorance.
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>>85784276
The Authority were an admitted far left super terror group, the fuck you talking about?

It had two gay guys teleport the president to the middle east?

There final bosses were GOD and the G8.

If it came out in today's polluted /co/ everyone would be taking shit about how 'cucked' ellis is
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>>85784322
>The years of the Siegel and Shuster run were Superman beating up racists and wife beaters.
Do you have any actual sauce on that besides some reblog on your tumblr.
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Wow /pol/co/ is real.
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>>85784348
/pol/ hates freemasonry. it's something they would write, if they were comic book writers

>>85784371
find me an sjw that wants to fight terrorists?
all they do is je suis charlie and put some crayon on the pavement.

being left wing =/= sjw you idiot
there was a time when left wingers were more hardcore than right wingers, and more violent
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>>85784322
And yet only one of these are things SJWs actually hate. I mean, they *are* racist as fuck, they're pro-government even when the government is wildly failing huge chunks of the population, they're pro-FBI because fuck local cops, they're currently voting for a warmongering congresswoman all in favor of arms dealing, they would rather campaign against fracking than coal mines, they support foreign dictators because MUH MUSLIMS, and they've given up on income inequality.

Literally the only thing that list has in common with the modern SJW is PROTECT MUH WIMMINZ!
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>>85784179
Please put on a trip so I can filter you.
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>>85784224
Superheroes have a very long and stories tradition as leftist propaganda.

Like literal out and out declared by the creators propaganda.

They only really "sold out" so to speak around the 50s, comics have consistently driven by shit like the New Deal, the 60s counterculture boom, hippies, baby boomers, 70s "relevant books' the British invasion up to today.

comics have almost ALWAYS been "sjw" its just now they are a convenient boogeyman.

American superhero comics are an overwhelmingly liberal tradition. It's like saying hip hop was ruined by all those black people.
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>>85783774
Cry me a river.
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>>85784314
Leftists are always pushing out anti-straight white male propaganda. Marvel is a leftist controlled orginizaiton. It's pretty safe to assume that when they say "fighting injustice" they mean "fighting Trump and Trump supporters."
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>>85784422
>PROTECT MUH WIMMINZ!
more like "white knighting"
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>>85784414
This is a literal superhuman army of teenagers going around the world fucking shit up that stops necessary change.

That is pretty hardcore and violent left wing bro.
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>>85784459
I know that you are too young to know
Fighting Hitler is not leftist propaganda, because Hitler himself was leftist. So was Stalin. Both were depicted as Evil.

tl;dr everything you know is wrong
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>>85783774
>or to stop important change from happening
>they're out to battle injustice in whatever form it takes
Yeah, this isn't ethnocentric at all. Sending American forces to bring freedom and democracy to the world has such a good track record.
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>About dealing with anyone and everyone who tries actively to make the world worse or to stop important change from happening

So they're going to be Hillary's new hit squad? It's to be expected after the last guy couldn't even kill Asange.
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>>85784490
What change? Are they going to kill the rich and give money to the poor? Are they going to destroy multi-national corporations? Or are they going to enforce censorship and bully some idiots? because that sounds more right-wing :^)
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>>85784398
Action Comics #1
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>>85784401
>not supporting the systematic genocide of the people that almost single-handedly built modern civilization makes you /pol/
Hiroshimoot needs to just nuke this whole board. You're all way too far gone to be allowed to infect this site with your SJW bullshit any longer.
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>>85784467
>Marvel is a leftist controlled orginizaiton
hahahahahahhaHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHEAHEHAHAHAHAHAAH

What the fuck i'm reading? Perlmutter is a fucking trump supporter, man.
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>>85784459
>It's like saying hip hop was ruined by all those black people.
It was. Or rather it was ruined by black people who couldn't see it as a medium of ideas and saw it as a route to get cash. Same reason why the current breed of SJW that use comics to inject their personal self-serving agendas to get attention and adulation are nothing like the comic writers of old who saw it as a chance to enact change and show their message to a wide audience.
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>>85784490
>going around the world fucking shit up that stops necessary change.
That sounds instead like a neocon wet dream.
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>>85784398
You have the radio drama where Superman deals with the "totally not the KKK" burning cross clan.

And then this, but both of which were post golden age supes.
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>>85784549
Mind you, the veteran / classic comic book writers wanted a DISCUSSION. They didn't write strawman, unless they were Stan Lee-tier, they wanted both sides to be presented fairly. But it was all a bonus, because the STORY came first. Be smart, learn the difference
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>We heard you think there are only two genders, and we've come to put a stop to it!
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While we're all getting hyped up for Champions (I think)

we're also nearing the end of the first year of Marvel's first total across-the-line relaunch of every single title they've had in their 50+ years.

What parts of All New All Different Marvel have you been enjoying so far /co/? Most of the new Champions got a good deal of exposure this past year

http://poal.me/ybe8y3
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>>85784580
Notice that they point out that respect is AMERICAN WAY, while SJWs HATE AMERICAN WAY. Smell the difference
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>>85784548
A true Trump supporter would never allow this blatant propaganda to be published and would reign in the SJWs that are ruining the industry with their tumblr pandering.
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>>85784633
I'm not getting hyped, I'm collecting responses for eventual shitfest thread

Also, Fuck Marvel, Fuck Marvel Now, and most of all,

Fuck You
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>>85784318
Until editors get bored and make Avengers the flagship again after like three months.
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>>85784580
There's a different between basic courtesy and "RESPECT MY PRONOUNS! SHITLORD!
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>>85784633
>Gwenpool in the top 10

Fucking really?

I've thought it was garbage
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>>85784641
Perlmutter doesn't read comics.
Also, isn't it funny that money from publishing sjw shit ends up supporting Trump?
The writer of Ms Marvel was outraged at this, and I wonder if she was reprimanded
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>>85784467
Marvel has always been leftist. The least leftist they got was under Jim Shooter and even then it was full of "socially conscious" shit.

The company built there brand on teenagers baby boomers and hippies. were the hell have you people been all this time?

Are you just now noticing this shit? Captain American spent the entire 70s bitching about Nixon and Ford and social justice and shit.

Hell both companies were founded on LITERAL JEWISH PROPAGANDA as in superheros made by Jewish guys to actively push left wing themes (New Dealism for Superman, anti-anti semitism for cap0)

or What about Wonder Woman a character that was admitted by her creator to indoctrinate the youth in radical feminism?

Or that time we imported a bunch of punk rock druggies from Britain who literally took over the industry.

Like are you people dense? Comics has been bluepilled this whole time. How can this just now be bothering you? Green Arrow/Green lantern? All those comics in the 80s were Ronald Raegan was the fucking devil? that time cap quit because Nixon shot himself? The X-men's entire premise?

Superman's first recurring villain was THE US GOVERNMENT!

How can you guys be so ignorant of the history of the medium. Comics is so fucking "bluepilled" that its actually noteworthy when guys like Dixon and Dikto steer off that course.

Its like someone saying they loved Star Trek and that "it got ruined when they added all that integrationist stuff" like come the fuck on.
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>>85784633
I pretty much despite ANAD Marvel, but then again, I despise most capeshit these days. Either I'm getting older and more bitter, or the issues being tackled are often some petty shit. Plus there's not a single good writer in either DC or Marvel currently.

I mean, I still enjoy comics, it's just shit like Manifest Destiny or Saga or webcomics like KSBD and SSSS.
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>>85783937
Because marvel has shown over and over again they cant write about these issues properly.
Green lanterns had a whole fucking page where baz got angry at intolerance and nobody complained at all.
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>>85784580
The SJWS should actually learn the lesson here, because what they do is the same as what KKK did
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>>85784010
It's been /co/mblr since before you arrived.
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>>85783774
That actually sounds like an interesting concept, but this execution
>>85783879
seems pretty bad. Unless they're going for a thing where the kids learn to mature and that sometimes fighting injustice means finding the balance between standing your ground and understanding others.
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>>85784707
In other words, we have to make /co/ great again.
And we will.
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>>85783879
Why would they ruin the ending of vision like that anyway
Hell they could have drumed up hype by having a mystery member or something.
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>>85784683
So...garbage.
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>>85784398
THAT WAS IN HIS FIRST FUCKING APPEARANCE
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>>85784678
>How can you guys be so ignorant of the history of the medium
It's very simple, anon.
They just don't read shit and come here to bitch about these new clickbait articles or some nitpicked image from a comic they didn't read.
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>>85784633
I only really read Vision, the other books I didn't really bother to follow them but I occasionally glanced at an issue storytimed on /co/.
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>It appears to be Marvel Comics’ plan to make Champions #1 by Mark Waid and Humberto Ramos the best-selling comic book in October.

>This is how they are going to do it. Retailers who match 200% of a retailer’s order of All-New All-Different Avengers #9, the one that featured the first new Wasp, will get 15% extra discount. 175% will get 10% extra and 150% will get 5% extra off.

>Those who match 200% can then order on top of that the Skottie Young cover, the Champions Variant cover, Hip Hop, Blank, both the Spider-Man and Hulk and the Johnny Blaze John Tyler Christopher action figure covers.

>They can also get the Champions party gear, 100 postcards, 20 lithographs, Champions pins….

>And one copy of the Party variant.

>While the Alex Ross cover is 1:100. The Captain America 75th anniversary cover is 1:50. And a 1:1000 variant – no details but could the odds be it’s by Joe Quesada? He does do these…

>Oh and the exclusive retailer cover availability, which adds 3000 to 4500 on for each comic shop that picks it up

>The only things that can get in the way? Teen Titans #1. The Clone Conspiracy #1. Civil War II #7. But they don’t have a lot of the things that Champions has – specifically that retailer exclusive cover.

>I wonder what Loot Crate will be up to in October?
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>>85784683
>there's not a single good writer in either DC or Marvel currently.
>I enjoy Saga or webcomics like KSBD and SSSS
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>>85784745
It's you who never read comic books.
Under Jim Shooter there was "no gay" policy, you fucking cucklord
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>>85784495
FDR was decried as a fucking socialist!

How the hell is new deal shilling not lefitst?
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>>85784322
Those are things that were problems at the time and half of them still are.
Shws just complain about stupid shit

Sjws would have been tgiggered over your not fighting a woman now
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>>85784784
Because Illuminati
I wish I was shitposting
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>>85784706
I don't know, they're assholes but I haven't seen any literally lynch people yet.
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>>85784683
>using the "capeshit" /tv/ memeword
>Saga
>webcomics
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>>85784495
>What is the horseshoe

Fascism is a far right ideology stalinism is a far left one
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I like how comic writers tackle soft-ball partisan issues of little consequence instead of things like universal surveillance.

It's so small minded.
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>>85784824
Hitler was national socialist, not fascist
Checkmate noob
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>>85784633
ANAD's launch was fucking garbage.

At the begining of the decade I went from picking up 3-4 comics from marvel. Now I'm down to one.

And it is kinda shitty their holding ANGR out on us until they put him on Agents of shit.
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>>85784824
>>85784836
>>85784495
Nazism isn't really particularly leftist or rightist; it's just pure authoritarianism and nationalism.
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>>85784801
There is this picture of that brazilian dude who said "fuck feminism" and there is a whole crowd attacking him. Or something like that. It was a meme like "do what you will, I already win".

However, there are more examples. you just need to google, and frankly, I'm not following, collecting that shit, because I don't really care. What is important is that you cannot fight racism with racism.
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>>85784580
What are you talking about? the Radio Drama debuted and was canceled half a decade before the silver age even started.

Clan of the Fiery Cross came out in 1946, at the peak of the golden age.
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>>85783774
>Less about battling super-villains

>More about fighting every day injustice

This seems like a terrible waste of a pretty good lineup of kids with powers. Fuck, the Circus of Crime is pretty damn small tier for the Avengers by now, they'd be perfect targets for the Champions.
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>>85784824
>Horseshoe theory
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>>85784856
I will miss Carnage and Vision.
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>>85784179
>Doom Patrol and Authority
>literally who
>Injusticefag
Please go back to whatever shithole you came from, underage /v/edditor.
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>>85784673
Its divisive
in general those who like the concept seem to mostly agree its well written while others (myself included) think the whole idea is fucking stupid and wont touch it.
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>>85784504
Well they are pretty burger kings kids club on the diversity end though.

All american though.
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>>85784866
Hitler's policies were socialist in nature.
He hated pregnant women doing physical jobs and wanted them to be protected. He hated kids working in coal mines. He was okay for labor unions. One of the reasons he hated you-know-whos was because they were both the creators of communism, as well as rich capitalists. It's complex, and t b h, this discussion doesn't really belong here
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>>85784633
I read all of Ewing's on principle now, his stuff has been good.

I've greatly enjoyed Uncanny Avengers, more so than the ANAD Avengers. I haven't read Vision yet but I hear it's great.

Can't get into ANY of the X-books so far and the only solo I enjoy is Chulk and Ms. Marvel (the former a good deal more than the latter atm)
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>>85784549
>people who couldn't see it as a medium of ideas and saw it as a route to get cash.
Isnt that how literally EVERYTHING gets done?

hell that shit happened to the idea of civilization itself.
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Also, a reminder
Hitler was a vegetarian, atheist, and a hipster
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>>85783937
>Did we forget that this is the genre of Golden Age Superman, The Authority, the Doom Patrol and The X-Men?

1) Those are good comics.
2) This is modern Waid.
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>>85784459
Even the 50s had EC/horro comics comics stuff, which was also pretty left wingy. Like ripped from the headlines tier stuff at points.
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>>85784870
It may also have been the fact that he pulled down his pants and waved his dick at the protesting women.
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>>85784870
Yeah, but they're attacking him with reeing and rape-horns. It's a lot of noise but it's ineffectual. There are examples of individual SJW's doing heinous shit, but there's not the organizational systemic drive to do violence present that there is in the KKK.

>What is important is that you cannot fight racism with racism.
you're absolutely right here, though
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>>85784963
>being this anal
And he still wonders why he is banned from entering the DC building...
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>>85784912
The ART is certainly cute, I'll have to give it that
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>>85784983
Rumor has it...
>change that into a white man!
>no way, Senator!
>OK, at least remove the sweat from his face!
>???
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>>85784991
you wanted lynch, you had it.
I'm more than certain that he's not the only example, but that's beside the point.

I agree that people should respect each other, but changing one group for another doesn't change the situation. Should we help each other? Yes? But any chauvinism will result in a disenfranchised group
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>>85783948
>complaining about the creative team of Astro City
...what? How the hell are you going to complain about a small independent team working on one fucking book not being diverse enough? It's what, four people?
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>>85784957
Hitler wasn't an atheist, he was a Catholic. Just not particularly devout.
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>>85784781
>The least leftist they got was under Jim Shooter and even then it was full of "socially conscious" shit.

He was the eic during for Claremont's X-men aka the Minoriteam and fetishes; the comic
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>>85783774
>The series won't focus on battles.
>The team has a Hulk.

How is the Hulk supposed to stop racism?
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>>85784673
You thought wrong. It's easily one of the best books Marvel is putting out. You should give it a read.
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>>85784997
I just recounted an example I remembered. I don't really follow the shit. I am a bystander. I just tell you what I think. I'm not associated with any group, which is disturbing, because the fight between left and right starts to affect everyone. And this is why it's dangerous, because people became extremely political, and a lot of times, against their will (figure of speech)
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>>85785050
HOW COME NONE OF THEM ARE BLACK CURRENT YEAR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>85784912
>think the whole idea is fucking stupid and wont touch it.
As someone who thought the idea was fucking stupid and wouldn't touch it until I finally read one of the storytimes out of boredom:

Don't let the idea turn you away. The book itself is great and way better than it should be.
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>>85785086
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>>85785056
He was catholic, when he wanted a support in his crusade against juice. When he was in power, him and nazis wanted to ban all religions, as they saw them as "backwards"
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>>85785047
Oh, no, I wasn't that anon. But if you want crazed feminists in Latin America look a bit more south.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/violent-mob-of-pro-abort-feminists-tries-to-burn-down-cathedral-attacks-pra
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>>85783937
/co/ got so carried away with their memes and crying about sjws that they actually start supporting injustices.
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>>85783774
Waid is such a fucking joke now jesus christ. I hope this book fails miserably.

WHY CAN'T MY SUPERHERO BOOKS ACTUALLY INVOLVE SUPERHEROICS? I DON'T WANT TO READ THE AUTHORIAL SCREEDS AGAINST DONALD TRUMP, MRAS, GAMER GATE OR WHATEVER OTHER SHIT IS PISSING THEM OFF THIS WEEK!
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>>85784231
Well, it actually is about comics and cartoons.
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>>85785126
Fedoraman save us!
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>>85785086
If Gwenpool is the best, I don't want to know the worst

>>85785121
Wow. Holy shit. I wonder when (or if) they realize what they have become
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>>85784871
I had always assumed that the radio drama was late 50s.
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>>85785038
The Comics Code was really... weird.

Like they had a whole anti sweat an exertion thing because of its perceived 'arousal" factor.

Also that wasnt rumor, that shit happened.
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>>85784490
>stops necessary change.
>left wing
You're mixing up right and left
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>>85784675
>The writer of Ms Marvel was outraged at this, and I wonder if she was reprimanded
Which is funny because despite all exceptations in the leadup to it its one of marvels few none sjw comics
It does focus on social issues a fair bit but its all sensible stuff
>gentrification
>the absurdly poor access to higher education in the united states
>the idea that teenagers are useless drains on society

These are auctual real issues instead of sjw shit (except maybe the gentrification not because i think they were strawmen they werent they were purpously absurd for comedy but because i may not have a viable solution to the problem of ghettos and the way we are currently going about it is clearly bad but just resisting change sure as fuck wont help)
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>>85784831
Because surveillance is not auctualy a fucking issue
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>>85785082
Something like this, I suppose
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>>85785193
>Which is funny because despite all exceptations in the leadup to it its one of marvels few none sjw comics. It does focus on social issues a fair bit but its all sensible stuff
probably why it's successful. However, I also think that waifufags helped
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>>85785128
Superheroes are by definition about lone individuals using powers to combat things they dont agree with with violence.

Superman's first act as a hero was kidnapping a woman and breaking into the governor's mansion.

His fucking full title was 'Superman, Champion of the Oppressed!"

Superhero books have always done shit like this.
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>>85785171
Fucking pervs in charge of the nation.
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>>85785161
Not "the" best. That'd be Vision. It's certainly up there though.
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>>85785193
I think that the word "gentrification" gives a bad taste. If someone said "hey folks! some corporation wants to wreck our local shops and shit in order to build some exclusive elite snobbish shit", much more people would response. And I wouldn't be surprised if then both sides of the coin joined against it.

It's always the language that you use that either makes or breaks the cause.

If you say "stop bullying that muslim" it will not work, but if you say "stop bullying that muslim, because he is not bullying you" will work better
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>>85785192
The literal intrinsic definitions of liberal and conservative are "change" and "status quo"
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>>85785231
>kidnapping a woman and breaking into the governor's mansion
You only looked at the drawings, right?
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>>85783937
Many of those books weren't about those issues though. Same with Gruenwald's Cap. The issues were used as part of the book's setting and as background and fuel for superhero action and soap operatic drama. Compare that to, say, Spencer's Captain Falcon book where the superheroics are secondary to the author bitching about anti-immigration views or the police.
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>>85785259
Vision is good, but at the same time, books like that were always there at marvel. It's just that Vision is the relic. The last shred of ol' marvel
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>>85785110
Bitching about comics you haven't read is a pretty tumblr thing to do, to be quite honest family.
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This team roster looks great desu
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>>85785284
I read the whole story. He did it because it was 'right' but Justice to him meant breaking the law with overwhelming force because the bodies of power didnt look out for the common man enough.

Dude was a depression era fantasy of two liberal jews.
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>>85785158
>memes!

Case in point.
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>>85785283
That's what I'm saying my dude
Liberal = left
Conservative = right
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>>85785231
You do realize that vigilantism is right-wing?
Also, a knight rescuing a woman is very sexist for sjws, because for sjws, woman herself should break free, and shame Superman
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>>85785110
What does tumblr have to do with Gwenpool?
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>>85783920
It's somewhat telling that even though Archie books and writers have always been howdoyoudofellowkids.jpg, Archie under Waid is somehow even more jarring than normal
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>>85784809
>>85784773
>>85784740

How does it feel knowing that Penny Arcade makes more money than any damn comic you probably read, you nerdy little cocksuckers?

Jeph Jacques gets paid more than your average comic artist. Hell, even Dobson's more influential than the wankstains you idolize. :^)
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>>85785342
This contradicts the common complaint about SJWs that they want women to have everything handed to them on a silver platter and be treated as superior to men
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>>85785287
But Superheroics are ABOUT using power to change the world. Why should; a guy who has already dedicated himself to fighting shit he thinks is wrong draw an arbitrary line between injustice because one has a fancy suit and death rays? You look at the original books like Superman and Wonder Woman, the modern idea that you had to stick to a certaint ype of "injustice" wasnt there.

Superman punched the fuck out of the bad guys whether they were Luthor or a crooked lobbyist.
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>>85784633
Are these all really that trash?

I've read none of them so I don't feel like giving any of them a pity vote (and I certainly understand why so many of Bendis' are in there) but I'm surprised no one has given the Extraordinary X-men (their main X-book considering it has Wolverine and Storm) a vote
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>>85785398
Fuck, forgot pic related
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>>85785373
>This contradicts
Bingo! You just figured out SJWs!
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>>85785336
>fucking shit up that stops neccary change

They are an anti reactionary force. They are DEFENDING the changing .
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>>85785316
>2left4me
And this offends you, Donald? Nice.
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>>85785373
>>85785342
it's almost like its all bullshit, buzzwords and memes with no logic that has no place here.
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>>85785398
Because Extraordinary X-men fucking sucks. Of the three core X-books, Uncanny X-men is the only one that's good.
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>>85785393
Golden Age Superman wasn't very good 8 times out of 10
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>>85785371
And Geoff Johns makes more money that that webcomic loser.Yourpoint?
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>>85785447
What pulls Extraordinary down? Is it Teen Jean?

It's Teen Jean, isn't it?
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>>85785444
Bingo! We have a winner!
I only hope that we don't get the hose again
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>>85783774
All I'm seeing is the worst parts of the original Ultimates series.

You know, where the Ultimates didn't battle super villains and instead tackled perceived injustice across the world. And it was terrible. We even got a Captain [Muslim Country] who wielded a double bladed lightsaber.
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>>85785412
Only uncanny x-men is decent, the other two are pretty shit, I tried to like them but they were too bad.
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>>85785478
Source? How much does Johns make?
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>>85785484
It's a Lemire team book, what do you think pulls it down?
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>>85785416
No person depicted in either example is actually real, they're /pol/ boogeymen memes created because they're afraid of women existing and hurting their feelings by rejecting them because they're huge assholes
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>>85785461
>another tripfag filtered
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>>85785443
No, my point is complaining about cape books being left wing is retarded given they have been leftwing for there past 80 plus years.

People call shit like ms marvel feminist propaganda and yet DC was publishing ACTUAL DECLARED feminist propaganda in the fucking 40s.

>>85785461
It wasnt. In fact those first few issues are pretty much always just Superman beating up whatever ripped from the headlines bad guy de jure S and S were thinking of.

My point is people bitching as if this is new. Its clear they dot give a damn about the intrinsic aspects of the books.

Its just an excuse to dick around on a bullshit culture war.

You could repackage any number of "classics" and release them today and they would be called out as "sjw bullshit."
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>>85785509
Ramos? Just kidding, we all know what pulls Extraordinary X-Men written by Lemire down
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>>85785492
>worst parts
>Cap beating the shit out of Captain Towel Head
>a bad thing
m8, Ultimates 2 was popcorn movie - the comic book
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>>85785496
Dunno, but he's worth several millions now. Do the calculations.
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Only all new marvel books I read are moon knight, vision and New Avengers
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>>85785496
net worth 5 mil

>>85785492
That was the second series...
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>>85785510
Not really. It's depression mixed with alcohol and drugs.
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>>85785509
I'm afraid you're going to have to explain that too me, I know shit about Lemire. All I can say about him is from Black Hammer which is a little dull so far.
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>>85785518
Good

Most Superman stories in the golden age are the same shit about him beating up gangsters without any colorful characters or plotlines
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>>85784744
Now see, here is the difference between this and modern SJW Marvel.

In Action Comics #1, Superman was beating up wife beaters and forcing corporate leaders to fight in the wars they helped create. He forced a murderer to confess because an innocent woman was railroaded by overzealous authorities. This is all true. But the difference is the times and the severity of the actions.

Take Mr. Wifey Beaty for example. He is literally about to smack the crap out of her with a belt. I don't think anyone would say that someone intervening in that is unacceptable. Now take a Marvel comic from today's age. You have Mockingbird complaining about tampons for some reason and her saying that there were no female heroes in the early age, something which is blatantly not true. You have Angela's famous UNSOLICITED OPINONS ABOUT ISRAEL comic where Bor said bad stuff about women because old and white and straight. And there are numerous other examples, each more insufferable than the last. The point here is that Superman actually tackled an important issue. Don't beat the crap out of women, which was actually a big issue of the time. Bitching about tampons is not the same thing.

And then we have him going after corporate stooges. That's fine, evil big businessmen should be taken down a peg or two. Fuck, the EpiPen thing right now is a great example. But modern Marvel basically equates old white rich guys=bad. Doesn't matter what you do, chances are if you are rich you do not deserve it because muh social justice. Just look at Sam Wilson's Captain America run. The Serpent Society are literally old white businessmen torturing illegal immigrants. The writer's fist must have literally turned into a pig it was so ham fisted.

That's the damn problem. Wanting social justice in itself isn't bad. There just has to be a distinction between justice and just bitching about stupid shit that nobody God damn cares about.
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>>85785546
I meant more the original series of volumes, since there's an entirely new Ultimates series set in 616 completely unrelated to them.

>>85785531
The pay-off was great and there were some really good scenes like Quicksilver killing that other speedster by going faster than she could handle, but the build-up was awful.
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>>85785398
>>85785412
The question is "Which ANAD books are good and worth reading." EXM is neither good nor worth reading.
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>>85785527
>DC was publishing ACTUAL DECLARED feminist propaganda in the fucking 40s.
Yes, they were pioneers; Marvel is just bandwagoning .
>implying Golden Age Supes is the same as SJWaid
Too desperate now, anon.
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>>85785557
Lemire is terrible with team books. Yet both companies keep giving him team books. Even though he himself has said "I fucking suck at team books"
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>>85785216
What makes you say so?
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>>85785557
Lemire is good at writing solo books with a side of artist showcasing.

Unfortunately, he's fucking awful at writing team books because he's incapable of balancing a large cast. This has been true for every team book he's written and he's aware of it. In an EXM interview before it came out, he even said that he sucks at writing team books so this'll be a challenge for him.
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>>85785621
it's a code for: "we are being watched right now"
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>>85783879
>3879
Did they just fuckin spoil the Vision?! What the fuck in the fuck?
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>>85785576
>Mockingbird complaining about tampons
They actually did that, the madmen?
>modern Marvel basically equates old white rich guys=bad
While giving money to Trump...
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The idea for marvel was supposed to be the world outside of your window. Funny how things change
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How old is each Champion?

I know Amadeus is 19

Kamala should still be 16, right?

Miles is 14 at most.

I don't know about Nova.

Viv is less than a year.

And I don't know how old Teenclops is, 16-18 I assume?
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>>85785660
>The idea for marvel was supposed to be the world outside of your window
No, see, that was the idea for the New Universe. It was also why the New Universe failed because it tried to stay "the world outside your window" even after a bunch of events happened in-universe that would necessitate huge changes.
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>>85785527
>My point is people bitching as if this is new.
Nobody thinks it's new, we just think it's shit. And it's new or not it's never been this bad to the point where it's basically infesting the very creation of the books themselves (the aborted Blade book because we need a strong black woman Blade for instance) to the point where it's inescapable. Between this and movie pandering it's made most of the books Marvel puts out completely unreadable compared to even 3-5 years ago.
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>>85785714
My bad, you're right.
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>>85783774
Baiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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>>85785681
>I know Amadeus is 19

>Kamala should still be 16, right?
Probably older cause of the 18 month time skip before and after Secret Wars

>Miles is 14 at most.
He was 16 by the time 1610 wrapped up, might be the same age in 616

>I don't know about Nova.
I think he was 14 when he first popped up in AvX, but I'm gonna guess he's as old as Loeb's son was when he kicked it

>Viv is less than a year.

>And I don't know how old Teenclops is, 16-18 I assume?
16ish at the start of ANXM, probably closer to 18 due to the SW time skip
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>>85785724
I think you're a little late to say that, not that it makes much of any difference.
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>>85785715
The thing is, Champions neither as a concept nor team name are not even new for fuck sake.
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>>85785193
The gentrification plot lost all credibility once it was revealed to just be a HYDRA brainwashing plot and not an actual reflection of the implications it brings.
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>>85785746
>18 month

You mean 8 month. And that's why I still think Kamala should be 16 at most, she was a freshman before Secret Wars
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>>85785681
>Miles is 14 at most.
Miles has had two seperate timeskips since his introduction. He's ~16 now.

Kamala, Sam and Miles are all sophomores in high school so ~16. Tyke should be ~18 but he keeps getting drawn way younger than he should be.
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>>85785794
9 months before, 9 months after. Unless it was 8 months before and 8 months after. Point being, two time skips
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>>85785637
That seems like an issue anyone concerned with privacy would care about? It's beyond dispute that the power of snooping, spying & profiling individuals by both corporations & the state (often in collusion) has increased enormously in the information age.
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>>85785830
I only wonder how deep we are in this web
Pretty bad-ass line, isn't it?
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>>85785576
>bitching about stupid shit that nobody God damn cares about.
If nobody cared about it,it wouldn't be a thing.

>>85785643
>how can we have a meaningful dialogue with adolescent girls when we live in a culture that still cant talk about tampons

was the quote
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>>85785818
It was 8 months after and nothing before. Remember that Kamala's book never had a TRO timeskip. It continued running up until the Final Incursion,

This seems to be a common mistake. TRO wasn't a timeskip for anything BUT the Avengers/New Avengers books. The point of it was that A/NA skipped ahead to like a week before the Final Incursion happens whereas every other book was filling in the gap between those two.

The only book besides Avengers/New Avengers that got a timeskip for TRO were Bendis' X-books and that's because Bendis spent a year on one arc that got timetraveled away into having never happened.
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>>85785915
please don't use the word "bendis". It triggers me
thank you
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>>85784051
>The Authority
Did you miss the multiple parts where members of the team realized that what they were doing was wrong?
Read Superman: Peace on Earth and learn what misuse of superpower can do.
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>>85785915
Except she gets her powers due to BB's terrigen bomb in Infinity which was pre-TRO
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>goes into foreign countries
>forces their beliefs on them through force
>the good guys
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>>85784401
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>>85786086
They sound like red blooded Americans
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>>85786097
why it always has to be jews?
are we the scapegoats now?
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>>85783774
>Anyone who is not for progressiveness is a bad guy

wow fedora
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>>85786097
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>>85783774
Reminds me of his shitty take on Legion of Superheroes.
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>>85786034
The Inventor arc ran over the course of a few months, then Loki popped up on Valentine's Day. Lineage's big attack on Jersey and the final incursion took place almost immediately afterwards. Nowhere in that run did any sort of lengthy timeskip happen.
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>>85784675
Again, Perlmutter didn't donate to Trump. He donated to a veteran's charity that Trump was supporting when he big leagued one of the Fox News debates.
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>>85786176
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>>85783774
So, let me guess, it's going to be less about fighting ISIS or North Korea and more about taking Brexit voters and people upset about the migrant crisis down a peg?
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>>85785888
>If nobody cared about it,it wouldn't be a thing.

Okay, let me rephrase. These are only things that idiots care about. Who cares about tampons? Girls can't talk about tampons? I wasn't even aware that was a thing. And even if it is, are we really comparing Superman stopping a wife beater in a 1930's society where it was considered much more normal than now to the under-information of young girls about tampons?
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>>85784721
/co/ was never great, it was the most PC board in 4chan aince its inception and you couldn't say nigger in here whithout gettinf anons telling you to go back to /b/ or /new/
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>>85783948
Wait what happened with Busiek?

I didn't know anyone but hardcore oldfag fans were even aware of Astro City.
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>>85783937
Waid can't write this stuff without being hammy and cringey as fuck.
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>>85786086
You have to drag them to 2016, anon.
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>>85786569
>Who cares about tampons? Girls can't talk about tampons? I wasn't even aware that was a thing.
Congress tried to get it taxed as a luxury item.
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>>85785715
>Nobody thinks it's new, we just think it's shit
Then you have an issue with the very basis of what those books are about.
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>>85784689
ha
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>>85785284
If he did not read it how did he know the governer lived there
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>>85783774
Sounds just like what the writer of the Batgirl comic said it was going to be. I'll judge it's quality after I've read the book.
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>>85784398
You fucking idiot. Don't you feel you have any responsibility to know something about comics before running your mouth here?
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>>85785621
Because i have nothing to hide and i care about being kept safe from those who do.
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>>85785287
THIS
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>>85785638
I dont know what the fuck they were thinking
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>>85786378
And then his wife proceeded to make another 2 million dollar donation directly to the Trump campaign.
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>>85784963
I just separate creation and creators.
Especially when it is Ant-man Hawkeye writer-dude who goes full retard on twitter sometimes.
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>>85785760
Are you retarded? What does that have to do with anything? Of COURSE Champions isn't a new team name but it's not like the concept has anything to do with the original book. And we already HAVE Social Justice Avengers in Occupy Avengers. Why do we need TWO books with the same concept but different casts?
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>>85787367
>Why do we need TWO books with the same concept but different casts?
Because they're different concepts. One is street-level non-powered heroes Upper Class vs. Lower Class. The other is globe-trotting next generation of heroes Old vs. Young.
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>>85785601
Wat, he actually implies vice versa.
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>>85785038
Replace
>???
With
>What? Why?
>It looks like Sperm!
>FUCK YOU!
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>>85786393
whats going on in that gif?
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Has Mark Waid ever done anything remotely good in his entire career or has he always been such a tryhard?
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>>85786086
Bet they won't go into Saudi Arabia or Iran though. We'll totally see Not Duterte at some point if the book lasts long enough however.
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>>85787586
Milo Yiannopoulous, a Breitbart writer/professsional shit stirrer, was giving a speech on a college campus. Fat girl got triggered hard and started yelling and throwing a tantrum. Video went viral and she was dubbed Trigglypuff.
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>>85784256
>Send SJW-craft to every corner in the Marvel comic universe, find white males and destroy them at any cost
And the current state of comics?
>co can't know what we're up to. >CLEANSE IT

It's like Waid turned into Ronan the Accuser from the movie

>You co/mrades and your culture are a disease
You....will never rule Marvel...
>No...I WILL CURE IT
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didn't marvel do a comic event that started with teenagers/20 somethings being dumbasses with superpowers, and didn't kill a bunch of kids?
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>>85787735
Do you even read the shit you type before posting it?
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>>85787193
>Because i have nothing to hide

That's poor reasoning.
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>>85787864
Nope, I just have fun with it
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>>85784963
Holy Shit. Marvel is fucking pathetic.
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>>85787600
All of his Flash stuff in the '90s, Empire, first few issues of Threeboot LoSH, Fantastic Four run with Wieringo.
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>>85783774
I just don't fucking care anymore.
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>this thread still going on
I want to thank mods for being based.
I thought that you would delete it.
That you didn't, shows that you have a class
Thanks
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>>85788107
You're implying mods exist.
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>>85783948
Waid and Busiek just seem to be the normal creative liberal writer (like a lot of them tend to be). They only really stand out because they're old. Some of those creative liberals tend to turn away from their liberal ideas and become more conservative as they get older.

Don't really get /co/s turning on them (well Waid mostly), especially since this is what superheroes comics tend to be about.
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>>85788134
They do. It's just that their ways are weird
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>>85788149
>Don't really get /co/s turning on them (well Waid mostly)
Here's the order of events:
>/co/ loves Waid
>Waid tweets something mean about Gamergate
>this hurts some /v/irgins' feelings
>they come to /co/ to shitpost about how awful "SJWaid" is for his anti-straight white male propaganda
>/co/ proceeds to turn on Waid because most people around here are incapable of thinking for themselves and will believe anything they're told as long as its worded in the form of Dank Memes
Doesn't help that Waid's output hasn't been all that great for the past few years, but the actual quality of his writing was never a factor in why he's hated these days.
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>>85784633
Black Panther is the best big 2 comic currently.
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>>85783774
>Champions will be more social tumblr justice propaganda.

It's Marvel isn't it?
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>>85783937
>dealing with anyone and everyone who tries actively to make the world worse or stop impornat change from happeneing"
This is roughly translated into
>any concepts or strawmen who go against my personal politics are going to get curbstomped by a bunch of bland or out-of-character powersets and they are 100% correct because I say so
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>>85788288
Being a SJW faggot has affect on IRL things for everyone so yeah if you promote SJW shit I personally hate you and won't support your work and try to convince other people to hate you as well.
Taking a play out of the SJW playbook
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>>85783774
>both companies are trying to prove they care more about social justice than the other
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>>85788288
To be fair what he said was really fucking retarded.
So basically mediocre writer says something stupid and political gets shit on for it.
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>>85783774
Haha! Can't wait for a bunch of DIVERSE sassy teens to throw fits about the trainwrecks minorities make of their lives and demand that white people waste their cash money paying for their mistakes!

Just fantastic!
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>>85783937
>no punisher
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>>85784276
The Doom Patrol has always dealt with characters who were ostrasized from society due to their looks, sexual identity, physical deformities, and mental health. What the X-Men are to racism the Doom Patrol were to people who just didn't fit in. Drake, Morrison, and Giffen all played heavily on how the team was made up of bizarre, societal rejects whose only choice was a lifetime of action and suicide missions because the world around them would never let them just have a normal life. This "social justice bullshit" has always been a major theme behind the team.
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>>85789535
To continue on that Giffen even had a fucking arc about cosmic gentrifiers destroying Danny the Street so they could put up condos and drive out the riffraff. Hell Danny's entire introduction in Morrison's run dealt with a villain that wanted him whiped out for being a living street, but especially for being a dirty transvestite.
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>>85783774
Does North Korea/ Democratic Republic of Congo/SIS exist in the Marvel Universe?
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>>85789709
North Korea yes, Congo I don't know
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>>85789535
X-Men wasn't nearly as hamhanded like modern Marvel, often the bad guys were even other mutants so it wasn't just "us poor oppressed [insert minority group] can't do no wrong, fuck the white males".

Just look at some of their archenemies out of context and it could even sound /pol/ as fuck.
>jewish holocaust survivor who's always trying to steal nukes or cause natural disasters to blow up normies
>Xavier's mother's husband's son
>I wuz kangs and first mutants and shiet
>retarded politicians trying to restrict freedoms
>robotic FEMA death squads
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>>85789535
I thought you're confusing social justice stories as being synonymous with SJW stories, but they're not.

Good social justice stories (much like Doom Patrol) craft the issues into the narrative without being obtrusive, but still undoubtedly present. They use allegory to enhance the delivery of these ideas.

When a writer feels the need to hit you over the head with these themes, when they're constantly namedropping real life events and hashtags with a wink in a vain attempt to convince the reader that they're "with it" and "on the right side of history", that is when it becomes a SJW story.

In short, it's the difference between trying to shed light on a problem most people aren't aware of, and wearing that problem on your sleeve as a status symbol.
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>>85789748

>Xavier's mother's husband's son

That's called a brother i believe

what the fuck dude
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>>85790224
mixed family. cain marko is not at all biologically related to CHARLES
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>>85783774
>more about dealing with anyone and everyone who tries actively to make the world worse or keep important change from happening
>globe-hopping
How the hell do you get sjw from this? It sounds like they're going to be liberating people from dictators and fighting crooked bureaucrats and Captain Planet villain types. Threeboot was hardly social justice-focused, after all.
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>>85786877
So is toilet paper except in New Jersey.
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>>85790608
Well, son, the good ol' Sears catalog exists for a reason.

So does a Marvel comic.
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>>85784963
>how dare he criticize the literal garbage that D*sney prints under the Star Wars brand!
>JOKER-LOVING MISOGYNIST TRASH!
Wow this guy is a walking parody.
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>>85791182

it's pretty standard practice not to shove in the creative teams face your negative review.
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>>85787357

Too bad often SJW creators themselves cant separate their Twitter bullshit from their own work. They shit all over their work to score cheap points on their circle-jerk of Tumblrinas and San Fran hipsters.
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>>85791232
The reviewer didn't.

Mark saw it appear in his timeline because his name was used in the post but it wasn't intentionally posted into his Facebook page. Mark Waid went out of his way to bitch fit.
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>>85783937
/co is full of racists, women haters and /pol posters who wish they were strong enough to survive in the Darwinist society they pretend to want but are fans of superheroic, idealistic characters.

Just proves that a large portion of /co is just flat out fucking retarded.
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>>85785158
Fedoraman has abandoned you.
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>>85791377
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>>85791232
>write a review of a bad comic
>somehow this is unacceptably cruel to the bad writers of the bad comic
#triggered
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>>85786828
Welcome to /co/:

We might have gone blue but we still have paheal
If you're gonna be racist, go back to /b/
brown girls are best girls
giant robot hands
milhouse is not a meme
/co/ is love
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>>85783774
Waid is trying to fit into the "it" crowd and failing it quiet badly.
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For all of your "sjw" bitching you faggots sure are easily triggered. Just admit you fags and SJWs. All the same shit
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>>85786828
that's part of what made /co/ great
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>>85786828
>Not a racism fag=pc
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>>85791562
>btfo by the truth and butt-mad about it

Sorry anon, but I'm not here to coddle you.
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>>85783937
>Since when is a mandate of Here Comes Tomorrow and Injustice =Bad something to bitch about?

Two problems: First is the lack of political and cultural diversity from the current crop of political advocates here is so lacking that it makes their work very predictable and boring.

Second is the number of awful and really awful titles, some from generally good creators that do exactly this shit.

Pic related. Even the fucking cover is straight out of marxist propaganda posters. That's not necessarily bad, mind you. Just keeping shit in perspective.

Mind you, this shit still might turn out good, but the drops my hypemeter on the floor.
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>>85784575
The distance between neocon and anti counterrevolutionary leftist is disturbingly small.
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>>85792794
Wow, this place really is /co/mblr.
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>>85793292
Even /lgbt/ isn't filled with this many pussies.
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It is kinda hilarious that a book about social progress and change features absolutely zero LGBT characters.
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>>85793292
If you want /pol/ so badly why not just stay on /pol/. God forbid we talk about comics here, but no you want to bitch about teh jews and minorities! Because that's what we all expect to talk about when we come to a board called "comics and cartoons"
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Oh cool another comic book about heroes too cool to fight super villains.

Fucking yawn.
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>>85793351
The one time I went to /lgbt/ they were shitting on a tranny that got beat up in some Spanish country
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>>85793470
I think nearly everyone is expecting this to be canned by issue 10
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>>85793431
>le/pol/boogeyman
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>>85791377
>/pol/ is darwinian
stop talking about things you don't know.
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>>85793518
>boogyman
>literally /pol/ shit in this thread as well as hundreds of others for the past few years

What's it like having no self awareness? Wait you probably can't answer that can you.
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>>85791377
Pretty much. You can bet your ass the same faggots who are constantly acting all self righteous about how Superman should be a symbol of hope and shit, are the same ones bitching about this shit and le sjw boogiemen
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>>85792847
That's what being PC is, you're thinking about SJW.
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>>85793552
Lemme give you a tip: you not only have to not respond to every "/pol/-esque" response, but you also don't have whine about /pol/ all the time, either.
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>>85783774
If it's annoying people who unironically see "social tumblr justice propaganda" in everything little thing power to him.
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>>85784179
hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly shit
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>>85785371
>liking content based on how much money it's creators make
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>>85793552
Get a stronger spine.
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>>85793962
>says the faggot triggered by any and every story line that doesn't fit in with his world view

Riiiiiight
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>>85783774

>IN THIS ISSUE: AMADEUS CHO USES HIS AMAZING INTELLECT AND STRENGTH TO TELL US WHY MANSPLAINING IS BAD.

>BONUS BACKUP STORY: MILES AND SAM FACE OFF AGAINST A DEADLY NEW ADVERSARY FROM THE DEEPEST REACHES OF THE MICROVERSE!! BEHOLD: THE MALICIOUS MICROAGGRESSOR

Bravo Waid.
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>>85793993
What are you to gain out of this argument? Just go 360 degrees and walk away.
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>less about battle super-villains
Well there goes my interest in the book
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>>85794017
It's just the lack of self awareness make me wonder if i am actually arguing with a bot
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>>85785371
>Hell, even Dobson's more influential
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>>85794041
Aren't you the person who wonders why someone would come here to not talk actually about comics and cartoons? Why would you bother letting this argument live, especially as it isn't getting anywhere at all?
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>>85794027
You were interested in this book before this?
I always expected this to suck
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>>85794106
I like Cho and Viv
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>>85784051
You really need to recognize that someone calling this place /co/mblr is bait, especially when they use the exact same phrasing every single time.
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>>85785088
>I am a bystander.
You are the cancer killing /co/. Shut up about this shit for god's sake.
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>>85787724
>Trigglypuff
Can't stop laughing.
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>>85784963

What the fuck happened to Wade?
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>>85793547
Find a more useful and worthwhile group to identify with, lame-ass.
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>>85787165
Best response. Well played, sir.
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>>85795435
>implying i identify with them.
unlike you i know about things that i don't like rather than being a presumptuous piece of uppity shit.
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>>85795964
Then you must know that /pol is largely stereotypical right (proponents of an only-the-strong-survive culture that they would loathe to be in if they had to deal with such a thing in reality...faux darwinism) with extra touches of "isms" because it's the Internet.
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>>85784915
>He hated kids working in coal mines.
Does his vileness know no bounds?
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>>85797089
How dare he deny the youth the experience and self-determination to set upon the path to maturity and fiscal responsibility!
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>>85790749
>Well, son, the good ol' Sears catalog exists
Not anymore it won't.
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>>85797089
well someone has to

it sure isnt going to be adult women
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>>85783774
Sauce but in archive.is please.


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