>Batwoman isn't Jewish anymore Good?

She'll be black soon.

>>85759262

Wut?

Parents can have different religions. It was the Kanes(Kate's father's side/Bruce's mother's side) who were Jewish.

>>85759262
The authority stayed that the cross was a mistake that will be fixed in the trade.

>>85759341
Where did you read that?

I've read that it was Kates mother who was Jewish, her father converted

Bruces mother is not Jewish
Kates mother and Bruces mother were sisters

This is changing quite a few things

>>85759262
thank god

>>85759365

Really? What's wrong with Kate's mother not being Jewish?

>>85759391

The Kanes are Jewish since Grant Morrison's run on the Batman related comics. Martha Kane's Jewish, for example.

>>85759391

>Kates mother and Bruces mother were sisters

How the fuck would Kate's mother be Bruce's mother sister when Kate's mother gained the Kane surname from Kate's father?

It's Kate's father who's Bruce's mother's brother.

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>>85759262
Kate's mother is Jewish. Tynion stated that this was an oversight and will be corrected for the trade.

>>85759418
Kate's mother was Jewish, not her dad.

>>85759474

But her father's a Kane and the Kanes are Jewish.

And that panel there means nothing. Kate's father must have lost his faith after the death of his first wife.

>>85759474
The Kanes are Jewish

>>85759262
Is that "if your mother is jewish you are also jewish by jewish law" thing real?
Is Batman a jew?

>>85759515
>Kanes are Jewish.
After they converted following Kates fathers marriage to her mother

Batman's mom is not a jew
I refuse to accept that my favorite superhero is a filthy rat bastard

>>85759547
THE KANES WERE NOT ORIGINALLY JEWISH

KATES FATHER CONVERTED

>>85759553

No, the entire Kane family are Jewish, not only Kate's father. Bruce's mother was Jewish, Bruce's grandparents were Jewish, Bruce's uncle were Jewish.

>>85759579

GRANT MORRISON TURNED THE ENTIRE KANE LINE JEWISH BECAUSE HE HATES BOB KANE AND THE JEWS! THE KANES ARE ALSO AWFUL PEOPLE UNLIKE THE COOL WAYNES THAT ARE NICE CATHOLICS! DEAL WITH IT!

>>85759579
Why does the possibility of a character being jewish anger you so much?
It's not a big deal.

>>85759599
You're a lying bastard

Albeit my source is a Nu52 story

>>85759657

The Wayne are Irish-Catholics and that's all that matters, anyway.

>>85759262
>in military uniform
>outside
>no headgear on
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>85759341
Ha! That means Batman is a jew.

>>85759674

I'm not lying, bro. Sorry. Morrison really turned the Kanes into a Jewish family. He was the one who also turned Kate Kane into Bruce's cousin.

If you try to remember you'll recall that before Kate and Bruce weren't family or affiliated at all. Greg Rucka and Blackman actually hated the idea that they had been turned cousins.

>>85759599
>Bruce's mother was Jewish

No she wasnt. Also Jews need to stay away from the Batman amily.


>>85759657
>It's not a big deal.
It's a huge deal.

>>85759752

Yes, she is.

Batman is NOT a Jew
One sick fuck writer doesn't get to define a character he didn't create

>>85759690
They were catholic, but i'm sure they were Scottish catholics, related to whe Norway catholic Waynes, not irish.

>>85759745
So Morrison turned the Kanes Jewish then NU52 reversed it

Everyone in comics is a jew, unless specifically stated otherwise.

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The latest issue of detective comics opens with the Waynes funeral and there is a jew candle holder visible

Also, Barbara Gordon and James Gordon Jr. are Bruce's cousins. No bullshit.

James Gordon married Barbara KANE, Martha Wayne's cousin.

>>85759813

Nu52 didn't reversed.

>>85759794

Yes, i mixed my potatoes. Sorry.

>>85759838

Yes, because Martha was a filth Jew.

>>85759838
Jacob is such a cunt.

>>85759902
If the mother is then her children are, that's how jews work. Batman is a jew

>>85759780
Dennis O'Neil and Frank Miller didn't create Batman either.
So should their work with the character should just be dismissed?

Who cares? She's a faggot so it's not like she'd be a practicing Jew.

Unless Reformed Jews are so degenerate that carpeteaters are considered in good standing with YHWH.

>>85759638

>Scots liking Catholics

good one!

>>85759745
>Greg Rucka and Blackman actually hated the idea that they had been turned cousins.

Yeah, but that was retconned already, they are not family anymore.

Morrison did that so they couldn t be love interest and Bob Kane. But it was a terrible idea. The worst Morrion had.


>>85759780
Yeah, that's the thing. It was a small mistake by morrison, specially when after O'neil he is probably the most important writer to give the catholic background to bruce and gotham city, i'm sure that i Morrison has to choose between the catholic mythos and bruce being a jew accidentally by blood he would choose Gothic and devilish stuff over kikes.

>>85759752
You can deny it all you want.

>>85759959

>Yeah, but that was retconned already, they are not family anymore.

Dude... Bruce and Kate are cousins. The changes Grant Morrison brought are canon and being used right the fucking now in the current comics.

>>85759262
Literally anudda shoah

>All this Mad

Why?. Can someone explain it to me?

>>85759959
>Yeah, but that was retconned already, they are not family anymore.
The first post-Williams issue of her ongoing was about them being cousins, and the current Detective Comics series hammers it home.
Current 'Tec is awful for Kate.

Bruce's Cousin
Dad is and has always been bad guy
It was always his goal to make her Batwoman, even though she came to him with the idea and he was opposed to it at first
Dyke haircut

A lot of lame, generic things Rucka and Williams specifically tried to avoid.

>>85760017
We, 4chan and the world in general hate Jews (And for good reason)

>>85759937
Of course not, that's why canon is made of the hardest elements and the ones that contribute the most to the character and not one time mentions:

Bruce sucks at the kitchen it canon
Bruce drinks Yerba mate is canon
Bruce family is catholic is canon
Batwoman and Bruce are related is not canon

>>85759942
Not now, now, the Wayne were scots from norse origins and catholics... Moving to the new worls sounds like a smart thing to do if yyour country isnt catholic friendly anymore. We are not talking about current day Scotland m8. There's an issue where Bruce said he didnt had Scottish roots but i have to dismiss that since Bruce being Anglosaxon doesnt makes sense.

>>85759745
>Morrison really turned the Kanes into a Jewish family
Source?

>>85760098
>we
You have to go back, /pol/.

>>85760098
I hate only Ike the Kike and Bendis.

>>85760017
95% of western Jews are Zionist, that's why.

But in the comics:

Bruce having an extended living family that could take care of him doesnt help the mythos of a lonely Bruce.

The Batman mythos drink a lot from Christianity and Gothic Catholicism, Bruce being jew makes the jewish executives happy, but it's takes a lot away from Bruce

Kate being a jew can work, but makes her mom a convert if you really want to make her bruce's cousin. But keep jews away from Batman, a character that by designe is a devilish creature.

>>85760117
>Batwoman and Bruce being related is not canon
But it is.

>>85760157

If you are not jewish you should dislike them too.
Ever wondered why everyone outside America dislike the jews? Why commies, socialist, Nazis, nationalists, anarkists, and pretty much everyone that isnt a hardcore capitalist dislikes them?

>>85760117
>Batwoman and Bruce are related is not canon
I don't like it any more than you do, but it is.

And sadly that's probably the way it's gonna stay.

>>85760278
Wouldn't having a extended family that didn't want anything to do with you only reinforce the mythos of Bruce being a lonely child?

>>85760278
Bruce is an atheist.

>>85759262
I was going to point out that was a mistake that slipped away...but 50 posts of pure autism later...

>>85760355
>having a extended family that didn't want anything to do with you
But that's not what is being presented. If Bruce had an aunt and uncle, there's never been a reason given why they weren't his guardians instead of the butler.

>>85760415
>never been a reason
How about you read a comic every once and a while m8?

>>85760415
That is what is being presented though, in the very pages that were posted you mongoloid. The Kanes don't want anything to do with the Waynes so they distance themselves away from Bruce.

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PRE-52:

Roderick Kane, a filthy Jew, fathered with Elizabeth Kane:

Nathan Kane, who married Katherine "Kathy" Webb (daughter of the nazy Otto Netz
Jacob Kane, who married "Gabi" and fathered Kate Kane and Beth Kane. Jacob later married Catherine Hamilton.
Martha Kane, who married Thomas Wayne and gave birth to Bruce Wayne.

THE NEW 52:

In The New 52 reboot Scott Snyder turned a Pre-CoIE character called Philip Wayne, who was Thomas Wayne's older brother, into a Kane, making him Philip Kane. The character featured heavily in the ZERO YEAR arc. So in the new landscape it is:

Roderick Kane + Elizabeth Kane:
Philip Kane.
Jacob Kane + "Gabi" = Kate Kane and Beth Kane. Jacob + Catherine Hamilton.
Martha Kane + Thomas Wayne = (Thomas Wayne Jr. and) Bruce Wayne.

Kathy Webb-Kane, the original Batwoman, that was brought back to the Pre-52 continuity by Grant Morrison was later rewritten by the GRAYSON comic. Much of her backstory changed. It seems that she was never Batwoman or married a Kane, being just Spyral's man controller and the villain daughter of Otto Netz.

WHAT'S MISSING:

Betty/Bette Kane, who's cousin to Bruce and Kate. Nobody knows who are her parents.

>>85760337
Probably because without it she has no links to the "Bat family"

>>85760386
>Bruce is an atheist.
LOL. No. Him being Catholic and gothic and stuff has been hammered home since the beginning. Shit, there was even a story-line where he gained possession of the Holy Grail.

So Jews having a maternal line is more of their attempts to keep Jews from breeding with Goys right?

Since male Jews can't continue their Jewishness without a Jewess they're forced to stick with marrying a Jewish girl or else their children will be ostracized from their community as non-Jews?

That the basic run down?

>>85760386
He is, but is your post serious?
You know why Batman uses the bat right?

>>85760632
Nah nigga he's an atheist.

>>85760278

The Kanes hate the Waynes, though. That's was something Morrison did.

Martha's father and mother thought that Thomas was a degenerate drug-addicted who was into weird Satanist cults, being a Catholic and all, and that had their daughter killed. The Kanes, though, are filthy Jews that have a history of dealing with the mafia and shady shit. For example ACE Chemicals belonged to the Kanes.

This is something that was kept after the 2011 reboot with Philip being a pawn in the Red Hood Gang.

>>85760662
Cause he's a fag who thinks Bats are scary

>>85760278
Bruce would only be ethnically Jewish in the eyes of other Jews. That doesn't make him any less Catholic, dude.

>>85760692
He can't be, he has spoken to actual Gods. He's certainly not practising any religion, but he can't be an atheist

>>85760692
Sure, man. Whatever you gotta tell yourself.

>>85760796
He's an Atheist and so is Lex Luthor and Mister Terrific and even Booster gold.

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>>85760415

You do know that before CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS Bruce had an uncle, right? Philip Wayne, Thomas older brother. It was Philip who was the legal guardian of Bruce and took him to travel the world so that the kid would have something to take himself out of the horrible murders.

Heck, Bruce even had a nanny and later Dick's aunt went to live in the Manor with them.

You're all a bunch of casuals.

Bruce was never an atheist. He is an Catholic that lost faith, but later regained his faith when he started to deal with weird shit, but now has a new God: the Bat-God. Or otherwise known as the demon Barbatos. Or the Hyper-Adaptor, for the Morrisonfags.

>>85760829

WRONG! and Mister Terrific is a retard!

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>>85760801
Nigga you know I'm right.

>>85760882

That's just the writer being stupid. The dude is friends with Giovanni and Zatanna. He has Deadman and Jason Blood on a speed-dial.


Get the fuck out of here.

>>85760829
Technically Lex just doesn't give a shit. We Don't know if Mister Terrific and Booster are in the new canon, yet. But Batman definitely isn't. He's been shown praying at his parents grave, he celebrates a traditional Christmas, and whenever he is supposedly dead, his grave has a cross.

>>85760903
Batman is an atheist till you can prove otherwise.

>>85760829
Booster worships cash.

>>85760692
>>85760632
>>85760386


Bruce is Atheist, but he is culturally catholic, got educated in catholic private schools, and his education was part of his Refusal to kill (that and his father being a DOCTOR, bruce has his own form of "hippocratic oath", and growing up among buddhists, shinto stuff etc).
Catholic guilt, something bruce has mastered, and really important:

For us, real world people Bats are just an animal that sometimes remind us of a superhero or vampires, but in Bruce's world and our world in 1938 Bats were a SATANIC Symbol, a really strong from gothic times. When bruce says "criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot" he isnt talking about criminals being scared of Rabbies, but DEMONIC FIGURES. Bats were an omen of really bad shit, that's the reason why in catholic paintings the demons have BAT wings. Batman is pretty much a demonic figure in the dark that punish the evil doers.

Batman is a character so popular that changed the meaning of bats for the western world, that's how iconic is, So iconic that now Nolan had to use the "bats are spooky" in the movies since the real meaning was totally lost in 60 years.

>>85760872
Mister Terrific, or let's science away that conversation I had with the Spectre!

>>85760930

Not to mention that he's friends with a bunch of occultists. In the New 52 he worked closely with Jim Corrigan, the motherfucking Spectre.

>>85760933
We can prove otherwise. http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Batman.html

>>85760727
And jew blood corrupts.

>>85760796
He can, he only needs to deny the divinity iof said gods. It's quite easy when your best friend not only cameback from death, but also can kick the asses of said gods.

>>85760903
He's an apatheist then. He may acknowledge the gods of different pantheons that appear to his face, but he won't bow down and start worshiping Zeus if he suddenly appeared before him.

>>85760903
None of that shit means he believes in God.

>>85760954
>Bruce is Atheist
He's went to heaven in forever evil so he's not atheist just not religious.

>>85761027

I can accept that.

>>85761027
>he won't bow down and start worshiping Zeus if he suddenly appeared before him
No duh. You know any lapsed Catholics that would?

>>85761030
>>85760933
see
>>85761048

Being an atheist in the DCU is really stupid.

Don't fall for Mister Terrific's bullshit. Dude hasn't deal with his family murder yet and is lying through his teeth.

>>85761077
There's Atheists in heaven

>>85760930
>He's been shown praying at his parents grave, he celebrates a traditional Christmas, and whenever he is supposedly dead, his grave has a cross.

He is culturally Catholic.
M8. I don't know how is it in your country, but Catholic non-believes are a thing, the traditions are kept as part of the culture. Non of those things ban him from being an atheist.

>>85761133

Lapsed Catholics are sluts, like my sister. Bruce isn't a slut.

>>85761109
If there's no one true god than who's to say any of those gods are actually divine?

>>85761027
He can deny their divinity.
Why would you worship Zeus when your best bro can move planets

>>85761186

>Why would you worship Zeus when your best bro can move planets

That doesn't make any sense. Superman himself is a good Christian boy.

>>85760954
I always find the idea of guilt being linked to one's religion kind of funny since every religion seems to have their own form of it.
>>85761123
Yeah but they didn't know.
>>85761172
>Fucks seedy women who he knows won't treat him right and he don't treat right
>Let's his dick constantly get him into situations that are bad for him
>Fucks in public
>Has a kid out of wedlock
How is Bruce NOT a slut?

Who fathered Betty Kane?

>>85761123
and they died not believing? Bruce literally traveled to heaven alive which proves God above all exists/existed
Bruce is just not religious doesn't mean he doesn't believe in god. Besides cape comics now a days can't say what religion a character belongs too if they aren't "oppressed"

>>85761212
It makes tonnes of sense. Who's to say that these "Gods" aren't just metahumans and Aliens.

>>85761212
Was.

Now Superman doesn't see himself as American and doesn't adhere to Christian beliefs, so he can be a better figure of globalism.

>>85761241

Those sluts forced themselves unto him, a fragile man, and in some cases even raped him. Batman's a victim.

>>85761275

Bullshit.

>>85761186
I mean to be fair worship isn't always about who's the most powerful but what perks you get from it.
Sure Superman can probably beat up Zeus but favor with Zeus gets me a nice flat in Elysium. Well actually favor with Hades probably would get me a nice flat in Elysium, but that's a long shot since he's usually a stickler for proper protocol.
>>85761027
Isn't that deism?

>>85761264
>they died not believing
Yeah pretty much.

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Why are there so many twins and Elizabeths and Katherines in the Kane family?

Atheists don't go to Heaven. What's this bullshit? I'm believing in a God for nothing here? Come on.

>>85759262
but she is still a faggot
so i don't like her
plus she is bland character
and only seems to be straight for black men

>>85761421

Every women is straight for black men. That's just how it is. You can't say no to nice, big, black cocks. They exude power and eroticism.

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Batman is just a lapsed Catholic like the Huntress.

>>85760954
no. please read this faggot

http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Batman.html

>>85759262
Doesn't matter. They made Bruce a Jew. At least now we know why his family is so rich.

>>85761394
For Catholics there is the chance of invincible ignorance that applies to non-Christians and atheists who have never had contact with Christianity. It basically puts these lives in God's mercy to decide of they are saved or not based off if they did good works despite living in a non-Christian society.

Of course this doesn't apply to First World atheists who basically make it their life work to be as anti-theist as possible, specifically too Christianity.

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>>85761475
why no love for Gypsy Dick?

>>85761475
No, they exude wanting to be embarrassed and lower yourself. Why do you think rebellious chicks date black guys? They want to get back at their parents. Besides, have you seen the women that do only black porn? They look soulless.

>>85761484

Man, fuck what they did with Pre-52 Huntress. Bitch was basically a Punisher if the Punisher was a nun, but then out of nowhere writers started to writing her like a major slut.

What's up with that? CATHOLICS AREN'T SLUTS! STOP WITH THIS SHIT, MEDIA! FUCK YOU! WE DON'T GO AROUND OPENING OUR LEGS AND LETTING EVERYONE SPANKING OR BUTTS WITH A RULER!

>>85761289
Only Nightwing is for rape by the ladies.

>>85761561
>CATHOLICS AREN'T SLUTS!
Kek. Sure they aren't.

>>85761573

The whole goddamn Bat-Family is for rape. They're a bunch of teasing sluts that ask for it.

>>85761536
>git sum gypsy dick
>later get my heart and wallet stolen.

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>>85761027
>he won't bow down and start worshiping Zeus if he suddenly appeared before him.

He bowed down to WW in an issue and kissed her boots after saying a greek prayer, just to apprehend a criminal. Faking awe and adoration is not beyond his character, he's very flexible and a great actor.

My guess is that he has a theistic hand and an atheistic one, just in case. He's prepared to everything because he's the goddamn Batman.

>>85761614

Shut up, you probably never met a Catholic, less so sleeping with one.

>>85761653

>He bowed down to WW in an issue and kissed her boots after saying a greek prayer, just to apprehend a criminal.

That's just because Batman is a major sub and gets off doing that shit.

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Post good Catholic characters

>>85761659
Ha! My mom's converting to Catholicism from being a Baptist. Wait...

>>85759463
Actually the Kane family makes no sense. It's impossible to figure out who is related to who

>>85761775

Yes, there is, but it is a bit confusing. See: >>85760576

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>>85761688
Is DD still Catholic or not? I remember some out of context panels that he stopped believing.

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>>85761801
Really? It's a main part of his character. It will be stupid if writers do that.

Am i crazy or is Tynion shipping Kate with Bruce? I feel that Bruce will end up fucking her some moment or other.

They've been pushing this angle where Kate is the only Kane member who actually, you know, treats him as a human being and family member.

>>85759391
Martha was jewish she even had one of those silly candlesticks at her funeral in the last TEC issue

>>85761861
That's why I ask. I think it was from time he was in San Francisco?
Who knows what I'm remembering.

>>85761875
You're a dummy. Family members are allowed to share feelings with each other that aren't romantic.

>>85760071
good, fuck Rucka
and fuck their pathetic attempt at making Batwoman "her own character" and dismissing the fact that she is just a derivative character based on an already established IP

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Would Venom be a good nun, /co/?

>>85760071

Fuck Blackman. Dude ruined Mr. Bones by making him Jacob's not-bastard son. And in turn ruined the whole DEO setting.

Fuck him. Jacob deserves to be turned into a villain.

>>85761976
yes how DARE characters get their own identity and character arc they should all stay static forever.

>>85761241
>I always find the idea of guilt being linked to one's religion kind of funny since every religion seems to have their own form of it.


>>85761274
That's the point. Bruce doesnt have any reason to believe in the divinity of anything.

>>85762782
again he literally visited heaven

>>85760576
the Batfamily was created by Wayne-Kane?

seems legit

>>85762939
You say heaven, I say alternate dimension.

>>85760590
No fewer than Barbara.

Unless getting Dicked counts (which editors wanted Kate to do).

>>85762073
Non-Rucka Batwoman was a mistake.

>>85761976
So because she's derivative, she should be as derivative as possible?

>>85759262

Wait, what the shit? Does anyone care if she or whoever is Jewish or not? I've never even heard anyone talk about this before.

Are you guys serious or is this a joke?

Could Batwoman be French instead of Jewish?

>>85759752
>Also Jews need to stay away from the Batman amily.
Jews invented the Bat Family.

>>85765114
she could be a vampi..oh yeah that happened

>>85765167
>expecting /pol/ and /tv/ to read comics or know their history

>>85765095
It's just something that should have been caught before it went to print.

A minor editing flub that triggered people because it's Jew related.

>>85759262
>people care about dyke Batman
She is probably the worst thing about the current Detective Comics. Can't wait until we have an arc about one of the good characters on the team.

>>85759262
So, why does it matter?

>>85759547
>Is that "if your mother is jewish you are also jewish by jewish law" thing real?

Yes. Since Roman times, Judaism has tracked descent along the maternal line. If a person only has one Jewish parent, they're considered automatically a Jew if the mother is Jewish even if they've never practiced, but only "of Jewish descent" if the father is (assuming they haven't formally entered the faith).

>>85759579
>THE KANES WERE NOT ORIGINALLY JEWISH

Kane is an Anglicization of Kahn or Cohen, which is a Jewish name. Bob Kane, who "created" Batman was a Jew, and Batman's mother was named for him.

>>85765321
i hope they kill her off

>>85765828
She's just been the worst, even page dedicated to her and the story centering around her is just so fucking boring. I really don't get what her appeal is when you have Babs running around.

>>85765884
diversity quota?

Kane and Wayne aren't even jew names.
Bob Kane, the creator of Batman, was a Jew, but his real name was Kahn

>>85760278
people weren't big on Jews before Zionism existed...

>>85768379
Can't they have the black power girl do that? Or the woman atom? Or that Mexicanish GL that they have been pushing? Is it because none of those characters have the Bat brand to back then up?