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Re-Invent A Shit Character Challenge

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Take a terrible hero/villain and rebuild them from the ground up to make them not suck. Get creative. Anyone want to take a crack at Cluemaster?
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>>85577111
Bump
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>>85577111
Carol Danvers

Make her a dude
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>>85578554
No, no. Make her a LESBIAN. And pair her with SPIDER-WOMAN.
And watch sales remain the same.
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>>85578554
No.
Replace her with an unknown ethic teenager who happens to be a genius.
She'll be quirky and have a diverse cast of close non-powered friends who still manage to pull their weight and help her on her adventures.
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>black widow
>ultimate universe

gains spider powers after banging spiderman(spider semen) post - marry jane's death.

Get's pregnant with spidey baby.

>electrified web shooters(organic web, mechanical electro-shock conductivity)
>wall crawling
>no spidersense post-pregnancy.
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>Bring humbug back to life
>Make him a mix between aquaman Animalman and Spider-man
>team him up with a girl cast and play it like Johnny Bravo
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>The Joker
>Quit showing him off every other Batman related media
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Condiment King is now the deadliest toxicologist/chemist on the planet and specializes in subtle hitman jobs. Hes also an avid cook
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>>85577111
He was a promising student on his way to the ivy leagues when his mother got sick which sidelined his life while he took care of her. He made extra money by working for the Riddler for a time before he started thinking of himself smarter than or at least less compulsive than the him. He strikes out on his own and is somewhat successful committing these almost impossible to solve thefts until his mother dies. He's left alone and questioning why no matter how much money he made he couldn't find a treatment that was successful. He comes to the conclusion that all the doctors to be frauds and starts committing crimes that target them and leaving clues so they know that the reasoning this is happening to them for failing to save his mother. Leading to his first capture by Batman.
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Joker

The illegitimate son of Bruce's grandfather. Grows up with a rough life in Gotham. Eventually coming to despise Thomas Wayne. So he shoots Thomas and his wife in a alley near a theater.

While Bruce is growing up into Batman. Joker is a hitman for Falcone. He is always hanging out a comedy club that is one of Falcone's legit business fronts. The comedians that get work there suck.

Then one day while running from a Year Zero Bruce, after a hit on a rival mafia boss. He runs into Ace Chemical and falls into the chemicals. Though right before he does. He sees Bruce's face and recognizes him. Screaming WAYNE!! as he falls down.

When he later wakes up after being changed into the Joker. He has no memories of who he is. All he knows is that he wants to make people laugh, kill people, and has this burning obsession with the dark figure from his one shattered remaining memory from before the accident.
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Superman

In this version, he's just strong

he doesn't have bullshit like flight, super speed, heat vision, super cold breath bullshit

He just whoops people's ass but he still has risk. You don't have to bring in Kryptonite or some bullshit like that because he's vulnerable to fire and bullets and any kind of damage
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Make her a reoccurring villain for some of the you her heroes and let her be more of a threat than a joke.
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Penny Plunderer

uses the penny shaving thing from Office Space
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>>85580470
>>85580709
Primo.

>>85580758
Good origin story, but what's the long game? Sort of a terrorist-activist?
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>>85578784
What the fuck is Marvel's obsession with this schtick?
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>>85581519

Everybody does this. And I don't just mean comic publishers, but any entertainment medium in general

White people aren't black enough, they're not gay enough, and god damnit, there's too many males
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Make him significantly weaker than Pete
Play up his stealth elements
Make it so his power can't just one shot powerhouse characters, and give it a drawback like he can only use it X amount of times before it starts taking its toll on his energy.
Have that affect what kind of and how he fights crime.
Y'know now I think I went too far the other way and he's too weak to work as a versatile character.
Fuck it just make Ganke Spider-man jr. instead.
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>>85581471
>Good origin story, but what's the long game?


Some one that feels cheated by society and fate. He has that serial killer kind of pathology where he wants the attention. He should have been something better. He kind of feels like the world owes him. But whatever sum of money isn't enough. He craves recognition for his accomplishments.

He shifts between high end thief and Calculator/ Master Planner. And he's a pretty good hire for one time jobs. The clues usually only lead back to him and he's somewhat vain so he just refuses to share credit for any crimes he's apart of. And usually the clues are so clever that most people can't follow them or even notice them to begin with. But when there's a crime spree or a job that requires series of crimes he gets frustrated not being acknowledged and begins to make the clues easier to follow. In the end he's pretty much become what he thought he was better than.
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>Composite Superman/Batman
Make him an actual fusion of the 2 visually instead of the classic 1 half for each hero look. Although it is iconic and silver age goofy as fuck, it complicates his character way too much. So he'd be more of an amalgamation of the 2 different costumes. His Symbol is pretty much the same thing used for BvS's promo material except entirely black. His actual powers are a combination of Superman's abilities and Batman's gadgets and mastery of stealth. Because he's not entirely kryptonian or whatever, he also lacks a weakness to Kryptonite so he'd also have a bunch of Kryptonite themed weapons in his utility belt. Point is, when this guy comes up it's a real "oh shit" moment for the reader. Superman and Batman actually need to team up when facing this guy because The Composite Man does not fuck around. He's stronger than both of them and lacks any restraint against them

For his Origin, I'd reshape it so that Composite Man is one of Brainiac's creation. After obtaining enough information from Earth's 2 greatest heroes, Brainiac molds himself the perfect combatant. Without Powers, he can still kill Superman. Without gadgets, he can still kill Batman. He is the Composite Superman and Batman
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>>85582115
Why would Braniac use Bruce's dna for a composite if he could use the DNA from someone with powers?
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>>85577111

The new Iron Wo/Man

>Scientist who works for Stark industries (yes, she's a black woman. So there, Bendis)
>She's a huge Iron Man fangirl
>Uses some plot device to get the schematics for the original iron man suit
>uses those schematics as a base to make her own suit
>Fat, bald, white cuck-worker helps her but is also a colossal blunder at everything he does
>after some hiccups, she finally makes a rough suit and helps fight some villain
>Iron Woman

Was that so hard, Bendis? I even put a self-insert of you in there!
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>>85582262
Because what other power would you need if you already were part Superman?

Also you really can't give him any other powers. Flash has to share his speed, Hal has to be worthy for his ring, and Wonder Woman is magic. Cyborg's just a really lucky amputee
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>>85580868
So a worse Mr. Incredible?
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>>85582385
why wouldn't he just use someone with funky dna? Like Beast boy or some shit?

Can you imagine fighting superman, thinking you've gotten the upper hand when he turns into a mosquito and flies inside you and fucks your shit up like Bzzd did to Mongul?
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>>85582299
What the new Iron Woman was just Misty Knight except with a repulsor beam in her prosthetic and maybe some missile and a jetpack
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>>85582557
Brainiac doesn't think that way. That's too creative. Brainiac just needs a guy to get shit done
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>>85582557
>Bzzd
Thanks for bringing that up. Now I'm sad.
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>>85582652
just as planned
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I'd bring him back, but somehow make him a good guy that aspires to be Peter and regrets his actions with Ben, he could get a new costume and could be a cool counterpart to Peter, having been on the darkside of things
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>Typeface from spiderman circa 2000s i think he was in just one issue
Make him an anti villain with his own slice of life series about what its like living as a sub B-list villain. it stillshows capeshit action, not like that other thing firecat or whatever but it takes a back stage to the everyday struggle.
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>>85580688
Weren't you just in the Adam West Animated Movie thread?

And I'd re-do Spider-man by making him a college student, aspiring scientist, and I'd only have one person with spider related powers with the exception of the symbiote.

So screw your Ben Reilly's, your Spider-Gwens, Son of Spider-man, and Miles Morales.
All the Hulks I understand. Gamma radiation happens but the spider was supposed to be special
THAT BITE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SPECIAL.
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>>85582076
Well, now he just sounds like the Riddler, again :/
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>>85582385
Martian Manhunter, Starfire, or Aquaman.

Mainly someone with powers that isn't hurt by kryptonite.
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Some older villains are pretty OP if you think about it. Like the Polka Dot Man. The dude can tear off a dot on his suit and it turns into a new weapon. All you need to do is give him a suit that doesn't look stupid and you're set.

Also i was thinking about an old character called The Spider who was one of The Seven Soldiers of Victory, who replaced Green Arrow after he went solo. He was a villain who pretended to be a hero or something like that, and his son was a more conventional villain. I was thinking that either he or his son could be reintroduced as a green arrow villain who has a more spider like design that covers his whole body, makes him look like the Yellowjacket from the ant man movie but cloth instead of armor. And he has a crossbow mounted on his arms like Deadshot's guns
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Brick Bat
after getting out of jail he decides to use his poisoned bricks to fight crime
he travels around the country throwing bricks at criminals
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>>85582076
Sounds good anon.
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>>85581519
Spider-Man anon, Spider-Man.

Then again Kamala just a normal chick who only friends with a genius.
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>>85580764
how did he saw Bruce's face? Oh wait, you're talking when Bruce still didn't have a costume?
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>>85581725
I like this, another thing remove any trace of the overpowered venom shock and prevent the "black dude gets electricity powers for some reason" stereotype.

Give him a acid touch instead, playing up the venom in his venom touch.
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>>85581725
Ok, listen this shit idea:
>nerf his zap
>give him an actual route of villains
>give him his personal Green Goblin
>make him more amateur, he can make mistakes and get stomped hard for that
>make his social life more complicated so he can bottle up his angst and released in fight, making it more brutal.
Other things can come from this.
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>>85585124
make him Batman's Bibbo: a new york builder and massive batman fanboy, emulates him in his personal life via martial arts training, "saying no to crime", but doesnt try to fight crime himself, till one day batmans cornered on his building site, bleeding out/poisioned and drops a spare cowl from his utility belt while scrambling for what he needs to save his own life.

Brickbat grabs the cowl, rams it on, grabs a pallet of bricks and starts hocking them at bad guys, helping batman beat em up. Offers the cowl, but batman just pushes it back, closes his hand around it, nods, and grapples away.

And so the legend of the brickbat is born.
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>>85585124
and he makes team ups with Ambushed Bug?
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the Puzzler
just a guy in a suit but it has a puzzle piece design on it

also he hosts a Super Villain game show.
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>>85580996
>more of a threat than a joke
You don't meet too many people that can knock out the Hulk.
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>>85581725

1: give him abilities of other kinds of spiders

>a: Venom Blast is now actual venom he shoots from his fingers, is taxing physically and dangerous if miss-used, doesnt work on everyone

>b:he is blind while invisible but has trapdoor-spider like vibration sense all the time

>c: super jump like a jumping spider that he uses more than webs

2: give him a roster of villains in the same theme as spiderman (animal powers/theme) but instead of all being super geniuses who frankenstien's monstered themselves/were willing subjects( doc ock, vulture, eelectro, rhino, scorpion, goblin) they were transformed by others against their will.

>a: carry on the goblin/hobgoblin themeing, have his main villain be, like, "Puck"(magic goblin), or "Bugbear"(strong goblin), or "Kobold" (aquatic/underground goblin) or hell how about "Gwyn Ap Nudd" (or GWEN AP NUD MAYBE), the mythical goblin king.

3: give him a personal struggle that effects his social life, Parker has "super nerd who is actually cool spiderman" similar to clark kent/superman, but Miles just seems to be "Smart but kinda normal kid, is spiderman". Maybe make him more batman-like: super cool and liked in his "civilian life", but hates his civilian life because he has to act super unlike himself to hide his secret identity.
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Mad Hatter.

Jervis Tetch was a pretty skittish and off-kilter nueroscientist. As a kid, he loved Alice and Wonderland. It made him extremely interested in the human imagination, and looking for the chemical/biological roots of that is what drew him to his field. He was brilliant.

As he worked, he dove deeper and deeper into the kinds of synapses and neural sparks that create every thought and action in the human body. The more he learned, the more he got afraid - what if that's all anything is? Just semiconscious blips and beeps in the brain caused by chemicals? Was every great work of art in human history - all the great paintings, poems, and even Alice in Wonderland - just the end result of some predetermined chemical reaction in his brain?

He dug deeper. There had to be some kind of conscious impulse behind it all, some kind of absolute proof, some kind of controllable reason behind what we do. What we think. What we are. How we feel. He needed experiments to dive deeper into human will. So he invented these devices, like headbands, that could tap into the human brain and control specific synapses. Under the nose of his laboratory higher-ups he used these devices to control unwitting victims, pushing them into doing larger and more outlandish stunts in an attempt to push the limits of what purely altering brain chemistry in specific increments could accomplish. The inhumane nature of his experiments was discovered by a lab colleague just as Jervis had realized the unlimited potential of his experiments. To protect his findings, he forced a hat onto his colleague and commanded him to kill himself. Investigating this mysterious suicide is what first brought the Batman at odds with Jervis.

cont.
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>>85585871
>Venom Blast
Gold. Just enough to make him his own thing without making it Black Electric Power
>Blind while Invisible
I'll give you points for creativity, but such a specific limitation however scientifically accurate would inevitably result in comparisons to him and Daredevil. Maybe instead of being Blind, he can't move while being invisible instead?
>Super Jump instead of Webs
Another good idea. Exploring alternate methods of accomplishing the same goal
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>>85585528
They should have kept his uncle alive and made him his archnemesis.
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>>85586044

Batman puts an end to Jervis' experiments, which lands him in Arkham custody. He stews there for a while, resolving to escape and continue his research. He breaks out of Arkham by using verbal hypnosis and the power of suggestion, using his knowledge of neuroscience and psychology to play the guards' brains like fiddles. He recovers his notes from a back-up he kept hidden and begins working once more on his "mad hats."

Previously, the mad hats he put on his victims had to be controlled by a remote which delicately tailored their brain. However, Jervis evolved by designed a "central hat" for himself, which instead wirelessly feeds commands from his own brain into the mad hats worn by his victims, allowing him to control them telepathically.

He uses this new technology to build a small army of criminals with one goal: capture the Batman. Impressed by Batman's sheer willpower and clear mental prowess, there was no one else that Jervis wanted to pick at the brain of more. This second scrape with Batman fails for Jervis, too, as Batman is able to resist Jervis's device thanks to jammers he had packed in his utility belt. Jervis is almost killed by the freed henchmen who immediately turn on him, but Batman rescues him and puts him back in Arkham.

cont.
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>>85586193

The next time Jervis escapes Arkham, it's because of another supervillain: possibly it's a jailbreak, or maybe he gets sprung out because his services are in high demand. He pulls some various criminal gigs, selling his ability to brainwash people on the black market until he can afford to focus on his research again. He needs to make his equipment stronger, more absolute. He can control other people, yes, but even on weaker willed victims he can feel them resisting against his devices. Stronger minds, like the Batman's, could shrug off his devices entirely. He can't settle for merely manipulating brain chemistry anymore. He has to go back to his research and continue searching for the source of all imagination, thought, and will.

So he probes. And he pokes. He studies the neurological, the chemical, the biological, the psychological, the philosophical, everything that could possibly be the root of all things the human mind is capable of.

And after a very, very long time spent researching, he finds it. He finds the source that allows him to manipulate, wholly and entirely, all willpower, spirit, and thought.

The Anti-Life Equation.

A brand new DC event, coming soon to a shelf near you!
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>>85585871
>>85586072

Have his uncle ALSO be bitten by the spider, only to turn into the horrific "Bugbear", with eight eyes, four vestigal arms and a black exoskeleton covered in wire like hair

Powers:

>eight eyed super vision

>super strength

>super durability/mild invulnerability (iron man level)

>regeneration

>super venom via fangs

>spits envenomed webbing

>exoskeletal hair absorbs damage, detects airflow granting super sense and can be shot as needles

>makes no sound or heat, almost invisible in darkness

>claws

>>>85586062
>too like daredevil

yeah i guess, though DD could be a good mentor for the power, and it would start of as more of a weakness
plus vibration sense is at least a little different sonar sense

How about the ability to create a "trapdoor" a circle of bent light that hides whats behind it with a VERY faint shimmer around the edges, that works as a super lens when viewd from the other side
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Calendar man.

>make my birthday a national holiday so that everyone gives me presents even Obama
>he gets to murder someone on a new day of the year
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You next challenge, Blue Snowman.
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>Green Lantern
>nuke the spectrum from continuity
>now there's just the Light of Courage and the Darkness of Fear
>play up willpower and courage as sources "light".
>make him primarily face off with the unspeakable cosmic horrors of the universe
>make the Corps less space cops and more like a last line of defense between sapients and the larger, unknowable universe
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>>85585579
¡Beautiful! I would actually buy that issue.
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Bump for this thread, I have a redesign for Angle Man I want to share when I get home
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>>85586519
Actually, make the Corps only seven members (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet/star sapphire) with the guardian's light appearing white(one guardian, their leader). This is just purely cosmetic. And then you could still let authors bring in people like Atrocitus or Sinestro.
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>>85586467

A female scientist who creates a kind of water crystal thats solid at room temperature, appearing as blue snowflakes, that easily stick together to form extremely hard ice, and freezes any water it touches into normal ice via a physical endothermic reaction.

The blue snow is created for terraforming and anti-climate change efforts, to re-freeze the poles, but after her research programs get shut down and grants rejected she starts to lose hope, finally signing a contract with (evil corporation, probably lexcorp), who promptly steal her invention for industrial chemical purposes and fire her.

At first she wanted to steal enough money to re-freeze the melting ice caps her self, but she eventually loses all faith and hope in mankind when a superhero stops her from re-freezing the poles/stealing the money to do so, and just gathers the money for herself.

She dresses in swat-like blue armor, with a snowman like armored helmet, a blue orb with conical nose and two coal black eyes, and uses a voice changer to alter her voice, deepening it to sound like that of a man.
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>>85586690

That blue thing is a girl? I thought it was a humanized basset hound from the thumbnail.
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>>85577111
Maggot

Keep him exactly the same but put him in very X-book and half the Avengers teams. Whenever Maggot isn't in a book every other character should be asking "Where's Maggot?" And resurrect the Marvel Swimsuit Special solely for a Maggot edition. Maggot will model swimwear with both his maggots inside and out. His maggots will wear speedos also.

This extra exposure will work because Maggot is actually the greatest character in the Marvel universe and everybody who refuses to admit this is a fucking idiot and a savage.
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>>85586519
>green lantern

>no ring, just lantern
>releases a mentally controllable nanobot swarm that glows green
>everyone else uses them as a swarm, or to form incredibly complex machines, buildings, complicated physical structures like Flynks (flying chains that whip one end of themselves at hypersonic speeds as projectiles), can do or build just about anything
>Hal Jordan makes giant fists, clubs, flies by having the swarm physically carry him rather than make a spaceship
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>>85586757
according to the internet, she was a rural school teacher who's father created Ice 9, she used it rob farmers while wearing a "snowman costume".

I like my version better i think

>>85586780
i like maggot but he is not exactly marketable , his issues of uncanny xmen where some of the first modern comics i read
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>>85586690
>female

Fucking why? Waifufaggotory?
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>>85587217
Oh sorry, I said shit.

The snowman is woman.
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>>85587217
>>85587299
yeah i had no idea who they were in the first place so i looked them up

golden age was odd, cool tho

i think "jaded ice themed crossdressing ecoterrorist" has potential tho
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We reinvent him as a tough, no-nonsense black woman in charge of secret government operations. Nicknamed "the Wall" due to her large stature and general fearsomness, she'll administer a task force composed of ruthless criminals designed to operate where government involvement must be kept an absolute secret.
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>>85587545
Some kind of High Risk Mission Unit?
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>>85585579
>>85587545

Like sandman but with bricks instead of sand particles.

Pulls buildings apart to make their body.

Fucking Terrifying
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>>85586690
Drawfag here, I might take a crack at that design of yours
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>>85587841
Aw man now i feel all pleased with my writing and shit.

Thanks dude! I'd love to see it.
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>>85587888
Warning, I suck

But you put me in the mood for SWAT snowman, so this is happening
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>>85587545
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>>85586044
>>85586193
>>85586309
That's actually really interesting and well thought out update while keeping a hold of his roots. 10/10 would buy the floppies for it.
The ending was a bit of an asspull, but if you didn't, a DC executive would and with less tact. It kinda sucks we'll never get to see it now.
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>>85577111
Batman, make him black.
Superman, make him a woman.
Wonder Woman, make her a transgender latino.
Cyborg, make him asian.
Aquaman, make him a fish.
Flash, make him a midget.
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>>85587788
an unlikely to return alive army
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>>85583361
I-I'll be in my bunk
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Make her black and it would be an instant success story.
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>>85586467
woman takes over her husbands drug cartel after murdering him
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>>85587788
Self Termination Team
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>>85578957
I think spider web shooting nipples would turn it from a 5/8 to an 8/8.
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>>85581611
yeah, you can really tell that the industry is going to shit because there are no straight white guys in comics, movies, tv, and games
all you see are minorities and queers! everywhere! shoved in your face!
i tell ya there's just no place whatsoever for straight white guys!
its like THEY are a minority now!
cause ya know, they're nowhere in entertainment anymore.
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>>85582594
why not just give misty knight a jet pack and beam arm then
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>>85589904
though lets make it clear that shit like black iron woman and shit are still hacky shit for attention
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>>85585414
yes.
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Xmen

They no longer exist to be an allegory for bigotry. People in 616 no longer irrationally hate mutants above any other super powered or strange looking person.
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>>85587888
I fear I may not have made her manish or bulky enough, but here ya go. Was fun.
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>>85590668
Mr. Freeze looks dapper as fuck.
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Now, time for your ultimate challenge
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>>85582805
Anon...
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>>85591631
His armor of made of Adamantium
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>>85591631
I don't get what you're implying? You posted a flawless character.
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>>85587788
Some kind of Seaside Squabble?
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>>85590668
Looks pretty cool. Yeah, I think you could've made her bulkier, but that's not a bad redesign for a Z-list villain.
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Harper is taken in by Jason Todd. Initially, it's more of a "fuck you Bruce, I can raise a sidekick and have her not actually get killed", but turns into genuine affection. She basically acts as Jason's Robin and the person who fixes/makes his gear.

And it should go without saying that all of her Mary Sue good-at-everything qualities that come from being Snyder's pet character are removed except from being a decent gear tinkerer.
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Boomerang.

Instead of throwing boomerangs, he can touch a object, sending it on a path at over the speed of sound. He can set how it would arc when he touches it, allowing him to set arcs that come back to him. He can't control it while it is moving. He also has low level speedster abilities allowing him to react to stuff moving at the speed of sound. He is a called Boomerang because of the booms and how the objects return to him.
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Captain Cold
Change nothing about the parka and glasses. Make him an unfeeling mad clown-looking mf psychopath who wants to return the world to a "pure" Snowball Earth state.


They only way I'll see the Justice League movie is if they make this character the main antagonist of it (read: there's no way I'm watching it)
Lex Luthor or whoever is monologuing. He walks in. "Snart, get out of here!"
Doesn't respond. Instead shoots at his hands and freezes them instantly. He walks uncomfortably close to Luthor. Luthor's arms are turning black from frostbite.
"Let me out!" Cold breathes in his face and (pic related). Now Luthor is fumbling with two
Black Manta runs towards him. Emotionless, he raises his his ridiculous freeze ray until it's inches away from his temple. He fires Then he pushes him over. There are Black Manta bits everywhere, thawing into little puddles of blood.

Straight iced like a motherfucker.
Justice League: Cold World
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>>85591631
Stilt-Man contracts a severe case of vertigo after a head injury, leaving him with a permanent fear of heights. He now has to battle against his phobia while seeing a therapist.
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Bear with me here, what if the Rhino was a Rhinoceros Beetle?
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>>85592529
>Harper is taken in by Jason Todd. Initially, it's more of a "fuck you Bruce, I can raise a sidekick and have her not actually get killed"
So far so good
>And then she gets killed
Perfect
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>>85594453
what if it's re-vertigo and he's terrified of being at ground level.

he built the suit to help him cope with it, but people see him and presume supervillain.
he tries to get a loan from a bank to cover building a new suit but they think he's robbing the place and daredevil beats him up.
armored truck is hijacked when he's walking home, spider-man swings past, thinks he's the leader and attacks him.
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>Instant Replay
Use him in anything else.
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>>85590668
dude i love it thanks ! Legit better than I expected. Saved.
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>>85591631
>MCU Stilt Man

Wilbur Day steals plans for a new type of hydraulic ram from engineer inventor Carl Claxton, improving upon the design with Chitauri technology looted from the battle of New York.

His new battlesuit mounts hydraulic arms and legs, capable of extending or retracting a couple of dozen meters in a split second, and of absorbing the shock from such rapid extensions.

He can use these to throw himself very high in the air, reach out a hydraulic arm to catch the side of a building and swing almost like Spider-man, extending the legs to catch himself when he falls or drops.

The armour is also bulletproof and mounts a pair of Chitauri blasters.

He uses his suit to rob banks, primarily by grabbing the vault door with one hand, something sturdy with the other and then fully ripping it off its hinges.

Ant Man tries to stop him and is horribly beaten, until Scott hits him with a super shrink device, shrinking him down smaller than atoms, before collapsing unconscious.
This prompts Scott to have a bit of a minor meltdown as he knows what its like to be stuck down there in the microverse, and Stilt Man was not really that evil, never really killing anyone. Scott tries to find him but fails.

Later Wilbur Day returns from the microverse after working out the device that sent him there, with a new pym-particle enhanced suit, capable of shrinking fully, or growing the particles in the hydraulic ram arms and legs, so they can now snap out to an almost arbitrary length almost instantly so fast they cause sonic booms, giving him a strong enough basic punch and kick to box the Hulk or easily pluck Iron Man out of the air.
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>>85597009
Whats the point though? How does this actually change anything about the character other than costume design.
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>Deathstroke - Slade Wilson
Make him logical again
>tfw He "misses" his shots when he can "see faster" and or "the best mercenary" - misses like 20 bullets and gets hit while reloading baka
Don't let edgelords make him one of theirs pls,keep him like the old times (at least beats one fucking hero) and would be nice if they didn't pander to the shitfaces who likes "no matter how weak the hero always beats the enemy" theory
>Most importantly: Let him make up for his nick:The Terminator.
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>>85598310
>slade wilson has served in every combat engagement since the korean war

>slade wilson has been given every single upgrade and gene mod the united states has ever developed

>slade wilson will heal any wound and never die, will never miss a shot, would survive in hard vacuum

>slade wilson carries a depleted uranium sword that can cut superman, that simply being around would kill almost anyone else

>slade wilson has a kill count so high no one even bothers to keep track of it anymore

>->you are the commander of the military base whose sole function is the preservation of asset codename Deathstroke. your alarm did not go of this morning. your alarm clock has been dismanteled with clockmakers precision and layed out on your bedside table. every other guard and member of staff in terminator base is dead, and from where they fell it will soon be discovered that none of them even noticed any others demise. One day, you will die, and it will be terrible. But you will not expect it.

>Deathstroke the Terminator beat Batman, wounded Superman, killed the president in the oval office, shot off a Flash's leg with a shotgun, killed the Greek Titan Lapetus

> Deathstroke the Terminator will kill anyone for the right price

>Slade Wilson actually quite enjoys his life

raveger is stil his son, and still a fuckup
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>>85585406

No it's implied that she's a super genius too, especially since the reset because they didn't want Bruno to look like he was smarter than her because "sexism". It's more that she's too busy writing fanfics and being a hero to create her own gadgets so she lets Bruno do it.
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Raise his physical strengh some levels so he can be an actual threat.

Give him some motivation even if is mere HATE

Return him the vomiting lava beams thing but this time make them permanent and transform them into lava punches from lava punch dimension.

In other words, transform him into red lantern Bane.
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>>85598137
Insect theme to match Spidey's, really. And rather than impulsive anger it highlights a drive to show off, to compete rather than defeat.
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>>85580764
>The illegitimate son of Bruce's grandfather.

Stopped reading there, sorry bud.
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>>85601447
make the terrigen mists cannonically have given him the same power as cyclops, punch beams from the punch dimension except:

> the beam comes from his mouth
>the beam is weaker than cyclops' but has more control via lips than he does via eyelids
>the beam is blocked by his teeth, so he can growl with his teeth closed to communicate
>he can "swallow" the energy to gain limited superstrength/durability in the form of a punch aura from the punch dimension
>when using the punches for superstrength he can talk/open his mouth as normal but cant shoot beams. it lasts as long as he wants

have him back as an ardent follower of the red skull and a nazi, but have him hate hydra as a perversion of the nazi ideal, and so not really like the direction of modern mcu influenced red skull
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>>85577111
I prefer to create an OC than doing something for the big two
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>>85601858
Not that you'll gain recognition beyond your fellow anons for either
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