ULTIMATES #10 STORYTIME

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>>85547393
Weirdly, the preview started 3/4 of the way through the issue. I guess they couldn't resist the temptation for the combo potential with the cover.

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>>85547418

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>>85547456

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>>85547466
God, this art just isn't up to scratch, is it?

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>>85547484

>>85547484
Carol is cute no matter what art

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>>85547501
>Zack Snyder's Blue Marvel

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>>85547527
Carol approves of police brutality!

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>>85547554
>White woman leading a team of people of color
How progressive.

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>>85547570
This art of Carol makes me think "knockoff Sophie Campbell".

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>>85547583
This is where the preview started, by the way. Seemingly ollowing on from Carol's statement on the cover.

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>>85547627
BASED CHAVEZ

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>>85547653
Anyone reading this?

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>>85547677
Is this why T'challa's just been floating in the background for the whole of Civil War?

America was really itching to fuck Carol up huh

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>>85547706
This guy.

>>85547706
Way to fuck everything up, Chavez.

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>>85547710
Wouldn't you be?

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>>85547710
yeah, its all that pent up lesbian frustration

>>85547418
>Even Thanos is tired of Inhuman shilling

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>>85547748
Of course not, because Carol is 100% right.

>>85547677
I am. Thank you.

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>>85547768
Thanos makes the world's shittiest pun.
And now he's out, and the Ultimates have lost their heaviest hitter.
Who wants to bet that Anti-Man will join the team for UltimatesSquared in exchange for helping to take him down?

>>85547677
>Monica still swears in skulls

Nice.

>>85547737
Its not her fault, she's just a kid!~

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>>85547808

>>85547677
I never learned to read but im looking at the pictures and using context to figure out the storyline

>>85547812
Yeah, that's a neat touch. I hope all the Nextwave squad keep doing that.

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>>85547757
CUTE! But not in the middle of a storytime anon.

>>85547554
Fuck carol you can't just tell due process to fuck off

>>85547888
She didn't though? She was just about to be released in CW2 #4 before Tony showed up to fuck everything up. As usual.

>>85547653

This pleases me so much.

>>85547570
i didn't know there was a color requirement for leadership.

Its a legitimate flaw in the Ultimates's structure, though; no one has a role and "whoever's best suited is in charge." falls apart as soon as the team starts seriously disagreeing.

>>85547418

Ewing please stop writing Thanos like a mustache twirling villain

>>85547653
Man am I the only one who didn't like this? Carol asks for dissent to come out in the open instead of brooding and Chavez attacks her teammate and chirps about how she knew this was going to go wrong all along.

Just fuck this stupid fucking character.

>>85547554

Fuck off Carol you cunt

>continued non-stop MAC wank
>beats all three of the strongest team members handily
>likely will suffer no consequences for attacking her team-mates and essentially allowing for Thanos/Anti-Man to release

I just really want something to humble Chavez, her personality is already intolerable as it is and nows she's bordering on invincible-sue status. I was really wanting Monica of all people to finally help take her down a peg.

>>85547757

This tumblr meme needs to end

>>85547976
Are you with me or against me is a quite threatening way of asking for dissidents. Plus Carol had already gone full minority report.

>>85547987
It's not her fault they escaped, thought. Thanos just needed to convince Conner that the ultimates were squabbling and disagreeing, and that was evident from miles.

So Ms. America puts the entire cosmos in danger because she wants to throw a temper tantrum. Great.

>>85547936
Nah, it just amuses me that the "diversiteam" is de facto lead by its sole white member.

>>85548137
T'Challa's de facto co-lead, too. They're the two that can shut the team down.

>>85548073
She's in a room full of adults, at least two of whom imply threats to her every goddamn issue. Its a legitimate question at this point.

The ACTUAL answer is to take a step back and figure out what the fuck happened with the briefcase Ulysses got wrong, or maybe drop this whole dumb arc and do that economic terrorism bomb story that sounds way better. But no one wants to do that except Adam who has forgotten he is fucking superman.

America beating up the whole team was unearned and utterly uninteresting and the damage she caused directly led to Anti-man's will finally breaking. She's ALREADY being in-story defended by T'Challa who clearly sees her as a magnificent pawn.

If I have learned one thing from both civil wars, it's that alcoholics should never be in any position of power.

>>85547936
>Its a legitimate flaw in the Ultimates's structure, though; no one has a role and "whoever's best suited is in charge." falls apart as soon as the team starts seriously disagreeing.
Plus Chavez acting like a cunt the second things don't go her way and carol refusing to even consider anyone's else's opinions the ulyess is useless is really fucking annoying

>>85548073
The straw that broke the camel's back was definitely them fighting, which never happened until America MADE it happen. She shares a substantial amount of the blame for acting like a self-righteous brat instead of reasoning with her own damn team.

And of course she's already being alleviated of all wrong-doings by BP. Because she never has to deal with the consequences of her actions.

>>85548288
"Because he manipulated her into lashing out and wants to keep this resource around in case Carol needs to be neutralized again."

>>85547501
>For now I am consent to observe
So this is Ewing trying to fix Bendis making him become a loyal subservient lapdog

>>85548368
That makes a lot of sense actually. Carol can't compete with T'challa on an intelectual/strategic level. She may be the de facto leader but he's pulling the strings.

>>85548110
The preview pages had me rooting for her because she knocked the shit out of Carol as a result of all this precog nonsense. Now, holy shit she's gone past the insufferable event horizon. She just stranded Monica in an alternate dimension for fuck's sake.

>>85547941

Ewing please never stop writing Thanos like a mustache twirling villain.

>>85548645
I don't think her intent is to leave her there forever.

>>85547677
>Still swears via Nextwave skulls.
I love this book

>>85547653
America is now my new favorite hero.

>Thanos using Civil War for his own devices
>Civil War being debated for more than just "PROFILING PROFILING PROFILING"

I think Ewing's hobby is just fixing up Bendis's fuckups. I wonder how an event written by him would go.

>>85547706
I love T'challa's passive agressive way of telling Carol to fuck right off.

>>85548645
Yeah, Mac absolutely wrecked Carol. I was hoping that Monica and Adam would choose not to intervene like T'Challa. That way Chavez would have been free to redecorate the Triskellion with Carol's body until she's unconscious or chavez has had enough fun.

>>85547976

No, I also think Chavez is a cunt, but /co/ is on the Carol Hateboner parade for awhile now and I don't think that will ever change.

>>85548794
He's said that he's planning an event in the long run, spinning from Ultimates and New Avengers.

>>85548877
I happen to like Carol, and although Chavez was being a birch, I absolutely loved the smackdown. Too bad it was cut short. Hopefully there's still more fighting.

>>85548794
Probably be stuffed with callbacks and obscure characters.

Watch co love it, actual sales to be poor for an event, and bitch Ewing jizz himself

I really wish that tracing hack Deodato wasn't on the Thanos ongoing. What a fucking waste.

>>85548711
How does she even know where/how to get her back?

Does MAC just have a convenient internal database of every single one of infinite parallel dimensions like a phone? How does she know how to open the portal in the same location every time? What if Monica moves?

>>85547378
The front cover concept is like a silver age parody

>>85547976
Chavez is a cunt that jumped the gun instead of waiting 30 seconds for the rest of the team to tell Carol she's being a facist asshole.
Carol was on the road to self realization about how stupid she's acting and possibly would have backed down if Chavez didn't suddenly deck her in the face with a chair.

>>85549098

To be fair, Chavez joined the group specifically with the intent of beating up everyone in the Ultimates once they "stepped out of line." She's been itching for this fight since she joined. It makes sense she'd jump at the first opportunity.

The stuff with Thanos and Anti-Man really makes Civil War 2 feel like a petty, irrelevant squabble.

>>85547437
Who was the idiot that thought that putting Carol Danvers in charge of anything was a good idea?

>>85549139
And, of course, none of the other members of the team will ever call her out for this hair-trigger temperament and borderline sociopathic intentions.

>>85549139
When I say she's a cunt it's more a statement of fact about her personality than any claims/complaints of the actions being OOC you may have misconstrued.

>>85547903
Bullshit, Carol wasn't going to let her go until they found something to charge her with.

"Ewing fix the Marvel Universe" when?

>>85549246
That IS what a lot of these tie-ins read like, is non-stop damage control

>A-Force
>She Hulk didn't just go down with a simple missile, Thanos put her down himself.

>Ultimates
>the abduction scene tries to portray everyone but Carol in a more positive light, adds scene of SHIELD agents roughing her up for the Ultimates to criticize them for

>>85549190
Because that's exactly what it is.

>>85549234
I may be remembering this wrong but Carol specifically said to find something with whatever resources they have immediately with the implication that if they couldn't then keep the woman jailed indefinitely.
The argument for her using Ulysses visions only works so long as she can prove he's 100% accurate or at least can explain where he goes wrong. She has a vested interest in making sure that Ulysses actually is right instead of hiding mistakes. The only mistakes she can allow have to be ones on her part.

my first reading.. I like Blue Marvel, he is a respectable man. Superman should be more like this man and not like post-crisis version..

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>>85549212
she is a high ranking military qt and the government runs shit

>>85549234

>>85549334
BLargh. Brainfart.
WIth the implication that if they couldn't find any reason then they could not keep the woman jailed indefinitely.

>>85547724
>that first panel
No items, Ultimates only, Final Thanos

>>85547437
oh god what happened to the art?

>>85549213

>gay minority
>ever in the wrong

>>>/pol/

Let me get this straight. The newest CW2 issue ended with Carol team and Tony team ready to fight each other. Are they really going to fight each other when Thanos is free and roaming Earth? Dumbasses.

>>85547501
I still want to ravage ms america

>>85547653
While this is great, I hate how America basically resolves the whole ethical dilemma that's supposed to be driving the story.

Cable did it in the first Civil War when he said the future was hell when people sided with Tony, and now America is doing the same.

In fact, why didn't she bring up the consequences of "predictive justice" before any of this even started?

>>85547393
Every time I see this, I get hype. God bless Ewing and Hickman for acknowledging the New Universe.

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>>85547653
I WANT TO DECIMATE HER VAGINA
FUCK

>>85547437
So who wants to bet that it'll be revealed in the Captain HYDRA tie-in that she actually is HYDRA and Ulysses wasn't wrong.

>>85549212
According to her ongoing, Justin Trudeau.

>>85549747
Figures.

>>85548711
Then why didn't she BRING HER BACK WHEN THANOS GOT OUT.

>>85547484
>>85547501
>Ewing having to devote even more panel time to fixing Bendis' mess
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>85548583
Just the read I got. T'challa was definately fanning America's resentment and then just sort of stepped aside and let her wreck Carol and Carol's biggest ally, Monica while Carol's own fool mouth burned bridges with the OTHER man in the room who could crush him, Blue Marvel.

>>85547748
THE CHECK'S IN THE MAIL, BABY!

>>85549678
wasnt she trying to hook up with some chick?

>>85549808
He's the only one who can do it.

>>85549793
Because it literally happened in the last page of the book.

>>85547865
Elsa showed up in A-Force #8 and skulls are there.

>>85549678
This

It definitely puts a damper on any moral quandary when America can just say 'I've seen it before, it's bad' and end it on that with no explanation or proof. I hope Ewing subverts the idea and actually HAS excuses why America could be wrong or why a teenager with the ultimate passport isn't the be-all-end-all of persuasive arguments.

So is the jailer and jail stuff maybe supposed to tie-in with how Reed and the Future Foundation are basically acting as Gods of the multiverse or is it something more sinister?

>>85549888
>>85547865
The Captain was in Nova #9 and the skulls were there too.

>>85549937
It more likely has to do with whoever chained up Eternity.

>>85549918

Given that the Ultimates will continue to exist after Civil War 2 ends I'm really hoping Chavez gets BTFO.

>>85549888
Pretty sure Aaron did it in Marvel Zombies 3 and the Captain did in Nova #9, so... has Tammy ever done it outside Nextwave?

>>85550018
She's absent during the CW2 showdown so Thanos probably puts her in the hospital but Carol manages to save her life. Thanos flies off to Lemireland, America calls off the beatdown, team cohesion preserved.

>>85548932
Yeah, the Eternity Wars.

>>85549678
>>85549918
I guess she means in the sense of "arresting people before they've done anything and on the sole basis of predictions", rather than "using precogs to attempt to stop crimes at all"?

>>85547677
I know I'm kinda late, but thanks for storytime

>>85547706
based T'challa. Totally, 100% based.

That fight was too short. Chavez didn't do a good enough job beating up Carol. Maybe next time it'll be different.

>Carol and America alone in the Triskellion
>America cracks her knuckles
>America proceeds to redecorate the interior with Carol's body. Knocking her through walls, sending her flying with every punch.
>Carol ends up in the hospital

Civil War 2 ends.

>>85549190
>Richard Rider resurrects just in time to call Tony and Carol on their shit again

>>85549678
>>85549918
Because before Clint killed Bruce Banner the precognition power was being used to stop worldwide catastrophes before they happened. Once Carol starts punishing thought crimes or jailing innocent people for what they might do, it becomes predictive justice.

>>85549747
So that's why Alpha Flight what reduced to what it is now.

>>85551324

As opposed to...?

>>85547524
She's not, ugly 100% of the time.

>>85551473
Canada's premier punching bag.

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>>85551481

I agree, she's not ugly 100% of the time. She's cute.

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>>85551566
Carl Danvers isn't cute, he's handsome.

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>>85551696

Carol Danvers is C U T E

>>85547466

That last panel is horrendous

>>85547466
What the fuck happened to his nose?

>>85550880
>RICH: "Okay. Great. What's been happening while I've been gone?"
>SAM: "Well, there's been this, uh, civil war thing -"
>Rich is already in California, banging on Tony's door
>"WHAT DID I FUCKING SAY?"

>>85551696
>Rhodey, I...

>>85547653
Poochie is never based.

She's fucking cancer.

>>85551745
If you like twinks, sure.

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>>85552309

attempt to slander me all you like

you'll never have a buff cute blonde waifu like mine, so I feel only pity for you.

>>85547757
Stop interrupting storytime for your shitty fap ship, no one cares.

>>85552182
>Poochie

I kind of like calling her this, where's it come from?

It's like writers forgot that Blue Marvel is fucking Sentry tier in terms of power.

>>85547437
Why do they feel the need to show up everywhere with 10 supermen?

>>85548137
The Diversiteam is also the best team Marvel has right now in terms of power level and writer.

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>>85552398
Posting infinitely superior buff blonde waifu.

Wow that wasn't hard to find.

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>>85552465
Come on man.

>>85547748
But it kind of is America's fault

>>85547987
>Cheap shots Carol
>BFR'd Monica via tricking
>Did zero damage to Blue or Carol
Shit anon you act like she killed them. She didn't even beat them straight up.

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>>85552681
If you're being serious, I feel sorry for you.

>>85552681

Funny enough, I also love PG as well as Carol.

Sadly Peeg isn't in any comics right now since she got shipped off to another dimension.

>>85547653

she stops blue marvel with one punch? the fuck?

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>>85552948
>I feel sorry for you.
I don't think about you at all.

>>85548860
When exactly was Chavez going to stop anyway? Since Carol is as resilient as she is (especially due to binary form) and (theoretically) an experienced adult she would just get right back to work after the temper tantrum was done if Chavez didn't kill her or strand her in an alternate dimension with no way out.
The only ways Chavez's actions make sense is if she she actually meant to kill Carol and the rest of the team or doom them to an eternity of isolation on some desolate doom dimension with little provocation which is pretty fucking evil/psycho.

>>85553035
STRONG LATINA THAT DON'T NEED NO SuperMAN stand-in

>>85553381
Well I fucked that up.

>>85547378
WHERE IS KARNAK

There are soo many bigger threads right now then CWII. Ultron in UA, Thanos in Ultimates...yet, the main problem is the Civil War? I dont understand.

>>85547570
blah blah blah "how powerful she is" I hope Thanos wrecks her next. Or Conner, for that matter.

>>85547527
>Zack Snyder's Blue Marvel
Nah, Zack Snyder's Blue Marvel would have watched the polices beat Ms. Green from afar while he mopes wonder why he has all this power if he can't save people.

>>85553637
And in New Avengers, Reed is going to use CWII as an opportunity to take over America.

>>85552465
Classic Simpsons it refers to a character designed to be "cool" and "hip" but fails.

>>85553035
>Stops
He was stopped, he didn't even get knocked down nor does he have any visible damage.

>>85553418
pushed back to September. Keep track of these things anon.

http://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC150802

>>85547987
B R I N G B A C K B A S E D B O B

>>85553802
Why would he want America? Outside of it's massive superhuman population they don't have anything worth taking over. At least with China you have an expendable population of guinea pigs that would find your totalitarian regime preferable.

>>85553904
>Why would he want America? Outside of it's massive superhuman population

You literally just answered your own question.

>>85554085
>>85553904
>>85553802

Wait wait wait, he wasn't using it to take over America, he's using it to scoop up all the super scientists to enslave them to build his Machine To Solve Everything, wasn't it? Also he was studying the phenomena of dead universes which lead to that whole cthulu-thing breaking through to our reality thing.

>>85554085
He can just kidnap them or grab dna and then use China's population to easily outnumber America's Superhuman population. Or even just let all the ambient pollution start mutating people.
It's a very small advantage.

>>85547706
The difference between Bendis T'Challa and everyone else's T'Challa is pretty much infinite.

>>85547613
Did I miss an issue? When did Ulysses help save Blue Marvel's daughter?

>>85549854
>Ewing will become famous for making sense of the nonsensical shit Bendis does
I want this to happen so hard.

>>85547653
>black panther
kek

>>85555381
She was working at the facility Thanos attacked.

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>>85552529
>Everyday crime that the swat team could handle
>Send 10 Superman tier heroes

>Renegade teams of super villains, Planet eatting cosmic entites of mass destruction
>Send in <4 heroes barely above street level

Marvel Superhero resource management 101.

>>85551894
Ms America punched him so hard that it flattened his nose in the past.

>>85551914
>Tony: "Yo I didn't do SHIT this time."

>>85552656
So why was the ending here so confusing.

>>85553089
>The only ways Chavez's actions make sense

Superheroes punch supervillains. It's kind of how it works. She actually can strand people in strange new dimensions though. That's kind of OP when you think about it.

>>85556819
Yeha and the Supervillains get stopped by those punches because there are PRISONS to put them in afterwards because they were breaking the law or the punching prevents them from accomplishing what they were doing at that time via making them too busy being punched.
Carol despite her atrocious behavior had yet to actually break a law and beating her up a little does nothing to stop her from going on with what she was doing before.
Chavez's punchfest accomplishes exactly nothing without excessive punishment .(aka Murder or eternal banishment.)

>>85547484
They did really well for the first fill-in artist too.

Maybe don't hire an angry teenager who is basically taking a gap year in heroism for your tip-top superhero team next time.

That said, this felt rushed and not one of the better issues. But hey, EVENT TIE-IN, what are you gonna do?

How likely that Thanos was psychically fucked with them?

>>85547378
thanks OP

>>85556906
>Carol despite her atrocious behavior had yet to actually break a law and beating her up a little does nothing to stop her from going on with what she was doing before.

Ever beat the shit out of someone? Getting your ass whipped makes people change their minds on all sorts of issues. I imagine she was going to punch her until she saw that she was being a huge bitch or she was going to eventually strand her ass on apha-ceti 6.

Also, legal doesn't mean right. It was once legal to own people. It's still legal to stone people to death for showing a little ankle in dirt-istan. I'm pretty sure it's legal to eat albinos in some places.

Focusing on the legality of a situation is a shit distraction when arguing whether something is fucked up or not.

>>85557514
She's a Superhero and a member of the military. Her JOB involves getting the shit beat out of her on a regular basis. You might as well try to punish quicksilver via putting him on a rollercoaster. The only way it could work would be due to Pietro finding it too boring.

>Also, legal doesn't mean right. It was once legal to own people. It's still legal to stone people to death for showing a little ankle in dirt-istan. I'm pretty sure it's legal to eat albinos in some places.

>Focusing on the legality of a situation is a shit distraction when arguing whether something is fucked up or not.
This has absolutely no place in here since as far as Carol is concerned Chavez was incapable of airing her grievances like an adult so she's just that stupid teenage bitch that hit her. You're trying to obfuscate things. Carol had not yet technically gone past any blatantly ethical or unethical line. Any chance to do either was interrupted by Chavez.
Given that most of the room was opposed to the continued incarceration of that lady after no evidence showed itself I'd say Chavez did a perfect job of preventing Carol from rethinking what she was doing.

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>>85557514
I'm sure the thousands of people who were going to be sphagettified into an artificial black hole appreciate your fourth amendment concerns.

>>85557679
>She's a Superhero and a member of the military. Her JOB involves getting the shit beat out of her on a regular basis.

Being in the military doesn't make a person resistant to ass kicking. I was in the army and dudes got their ass kicked in fort just as easily as they did in town. And if violence doesn't work in superhero comics then it's never going to work.

>Carol had not yet technically gone past any blatantly ethical or unethical line.

Trying to lock a woman up indefinitely for carrying an empty briefcase cause her hallucinations told her *is* crossing a pretty clear ethical line. I know Americans have been perfectly willing to piss away civil liberties any time someone uses the magic word "terrorism" but that's not the way it's supposed to be. Act like a fascist get bashed like a fascist.

>>85557713
Someone said the magic word "terrorism" so civil liberties are just things that get in the way. If we locked up anyone we thought might possibly be a danger, yeah, a lot of people would be a lot safer. Except all those people we put in prison for absolutely nothing at all.

They wouldn't be very safe, would they?

>>85547653
I have never really liked Ms. America, even since the Young Avengers days. But I have never wanted to see someone kick Carol's ass more than I do right now. Beat the fuck out of her Chavez!!

>>85557713

Between this and Civil War II #, I'm pretty sure that there is no way to prove that she had a black hole. They even violated that woman's mind, looked for traces of magic, and a bunch of other stuff. Ulysses mind creates the most likely scenario, which also means that it is not completely certain.

>>85557805
She wasn't trying to lock her up YET. She was trying to figure out wtf was going on since it became clear that there was some sort of mistake on some level. Chavez went and attacked before anyone could try to figure out wtf went wrong. She might have been going to do so but she had not at but had no intentions of doing so YET which I might add is highly relevant to this event.
I'm sure she will probably act full fascist soon enough thanks to her one moment of self reflection being interrupted by a chair but at the point of the first attack she had not yet done so and was in a room of perfectly articulate and reasonable people capable of explaining exactly what their grievances are..

>>85557297
MAC is potentially the most important member of the team. Someone who has seen countless dimensions and can travel literally anywhere in the omniverse can be pretty useful to solve the kind of problems the ultimates have to deal with.

>>85552854
This anon is correct, if you say America beat up Blue Marvel you read the issue through the lens of your hate for MAC

>>85558284
Can't Strange or Silver Surfer do that?

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>>85547437
>>85552529
>>85556159
>The strike force that they send to detain Alison Green is larger than the one they send to fight Thanos

>>85558245
>She wasn't trying to lock her up YET.

Wait, so the lady wasn't in custody getting her mind raided at that very moment when America was chairing Captain Fascist in the face? lol.

After this event they should change her name to Captain Patriot (act).

>>85558359
Surfer can only travel throught time or throught already existing rifts, as far as I'm aware. And Strange has limitations, he needed power ups to ascend to Shuma Gorath's dimension while Mac can access the neutral zone (the conceptual edge of existance) by herself.

>>85551914
I can see this happening. 100% sure it will happen.

>>85558463
Not to mention strange has been Nerfed by death of magic story line. There is also MAC's experiences from other univeres. The only good replacement for her is captain Britain

>>85558441
That is apparently a legal and perfectly ethical thing in the marvel universe as evidenced by psychic warrants actually being issued by lawyers and the fact that all of the psychics on the X-men other than Martha aren't in prison.

>>85547808

Is Marvel trying really hard to show how brain dead Carol really is? Who the fuck keeps Thanos locked up and doesn't expect shit like this to happen?

>>85558591
>MAC's experiences from other univeres

This is one thing on her I don't really understand. What kind of experience? She hasn't been at the hero thing for more than a decade and if Choosing Sides is any indication she mostly fancies little variations on our Earth, so where does the 'worldly knowledge' angle come in exactly? Has she saved any realities?

>>85549190
There's also Galactus playing cosmic Sherlock, that's the plot point that interests me the most.

>>85551914
>The entire Omniverse is in a cage and you're fighting over secret identities?
>Actually this time is about predictive justice...
>That's not my fucking point! Also when did Carol become a man?

>>85558703
>She hasn't been at the hero thing for more than a decade
You're forgetting the sliding timescale, anon. Most A-listers have been heroing for around the same time, in-universe.

>>85558703
>Has she saved any realities?
If we were to believe the hype, she was saving universes since childhood.

Bloody hell what I'd give for her to have fight a Starlin-written Warlock. Just for her realising she's been had since page 10(and page 1 by Thanos), because she might have been doing that for years, but there are still people better than her and with more experience than her.

>>85558623
>That is apparently a legal and perfectly ethical thing in the marvel universe as evidenced by psychic warrants actually being issued by lawyers and the fact that all of the psychics on the X-men other than Martha aren't in prison.

The Marvel universe desperately needs a completely different kind of civil war. The kind that people fight for civil rights. I mean holy shit, you can't even trust your own thoughts to be private if someone says "black hole".

All psychics would have a price on their head like you wouldn't believe. Anti-psychic tech would be as ubiquitous as cell phones.

>>85547808
He looks so fucking happy, I love it.

Also, what's his endgame, /co/? If he just wanted the Cosmic Cube at Pegasus then I see no reason why he would have gotten himself caught. Any theories?

>>85558935
Get his Thanos-copter out of the impound

>>85558663
The only entity with a higher body count is his girlfriend, literally death. Dude should have been shot into the sun which is a thing they're apparently willing and able to do (ultron). Maybe that wouldn't kill him but it'd make him rethink ever looking at Earth.

Not that he'd ever leave the Sun. I mean the escape velocity has to be outrageous.

I hope this "universe in a cage" thing doesn't just turn into a useless plot device that doesn't get exposition ever in the comic, much less anywhere else.

>>85558703
It's let out bit by bit in ultimates like knowing what that thing that had galactus's birth chamber was. I think that choosing sides things fucked up. Ultimates and young avengers painted a more cosmic picture of her extrauniversal activties. Not to mention it had her swooning over kate even though she only thinks of gf in ultimates.

>>85558935
Lemire said that they will reveal his big, Marvel-defining "nothing will ever be the same" objective in Nower's Thanos 1.

>>85547501
Is it weird that I read T'challa with Darth Vader's voice, but only in this comic?

>>85558972
He has been setting it up since issue 4 and is likely going to turn into a big cosmic event.

>>85558935
He probably wanted Anti-man

>>85558963
Thanos can trasmute matter: do you want him in the sun?

>>85553772
She'll never get wrecked, never suffer any comeuppance, never have to deal with shades of grey or moral ambiguity. She'll never be beaten or out powered by anything less than omnipotence. at best she'll be tricked.

She is Tumblr: the character. She is here to ruin your comics, and they will die to a chorus of "dem thighs" and " delicious brown"

>>85553904
>Why would he want America?
It's his Plan B. Plan A gets ruined by Sunspot.

>>85559127
Damn, it's just a character, anon. No need to put all the faggots you hate on her shoulders.

Is this book the new Hickmanvengers? I mean, in the sense that what happens and is being set-up in this book makes every other book feel street-level.

>>85554321
Yep. His original plan was to take out Sunspot and the New Avengers then absorb all of AIM's scientists and resources into WHISPER. When that goes poorly, he's going to try and take over America instead.

>>85559015
In choosing sides she went through universes similar to 616 just to show them to Kate, not because she usually visits those.

>>85559127
Anon, did America beat you up and steal your girlfriend?

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>>85547527
>>85547554
I'm not one for the lolcunt meme but damn Carol's been extraordinarily cunty this week.

>>85559127
She's really outclassed here, thought. All of the Ultimates will end up being beaten up.
>>85559183
Hope so. I actually loved Hicmanvengers. After the time jump it was the book I looked forward the most. I didn't like Secret Wars tho.

>>85559025
I don't know how to feel about Lemire writing what will possibly be an important plot point of eternity War.

>>85559083
>Thanos can trasmute matter: do you want him in the sun?

If going to the Sun would have done him any favors he'd have done it himself by now. He's powerful, but to have him do anything other than not die on the Sun is extremely pushing it. Hell, if he could transmute a chunk of the sun into anything at the rate of The State of Texas every day it'd still burn instantly and we'd probably never notice.

>>85547437
KENNETH WHAT THE FUCK
At least they had the sense to keep him on for the cosmic-y scenes.

>>85558963
>Dude should have been shot into the sun
The issue is that killing Thanos accomplishes nothing. He's banned from Death's realm so anytime he gets killed, she just kicks him out and he comes back to life. That's why every instance of Thanos being "beaten" is when he's kept in a state of permanent life, like Adam Warlock did at the end of second Thanos War or Thane at the end of Infinity.

Locking Thanos up is smart. Locking him up in a facility where if the power goes out, he can get loose? Probably a BAD FUCKING IDEA.

>>85547418
I'm gonna call it now, The Ultimates are going to have to save Al Ewing

>>85558935
>what's his endgame, /co/?
He's just fucking around. His end goal is to create a show of affection for Oblivion, which would mean wiping out the universe, but he probably hasn't decided how to go about that yet so he's just having some fun until something comes to him.

>>85559127
I hope so. Just so that i can think back to that one autist on /co/ and smile.

>>85559164


I hate her plenty by herself, like I hate any character that will never get wrecked, never suffer any comeuppance, never have to deal with shades of grey or moral ambiguity, never be beaten or out powered by anything less than omnipotence or a huuuuge gang of people that ought to be able to take them individually.

She's Cable+Steven Universe.
>>85559259

This is the quality of bait I expect from a Poochie fan.

Fictional characters can't hurt you, waifufag.

>>85559382
>the cosmic jailer is Bendis
BRAVO EWING

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>>85547706
KEIKAKKU
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>>85547757
C U T E

>>85559370
He can live forever, on the surface of the sun.

>>85559516
>silly anti-man can't harm me, i will just ignore continuity and it will be like it never happened

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>>85553897
PLS EWING
PLS

>>85548860
Wanna uh.
Wanna get some stuff off your chest anon?

>>85559472
It wasn't bait, it was meant to be a joke on the fact that you sound a little overinvolved in your hate for a silly fictional character in a cape comic. But whatever, it's not like I can do anything to change your opinion.

>>85547748
>>85547768
>>85547808
>Thanos making shitty puns
fucking Ewing

>>85550159
My body is ready

>>85558921
Anti-psychic tech/training used to be alot more ubiquitous but writers didn't like things like large amounts of characters or persons being immune/resistant to psychics or bothering to keep track of them as they were of getting in the way of their power wanking. Add in a dash of modern X-men writers not getting why Xavier told psychics not to abuse their power like that and you have the atrocious crap the X-men psychics pull on people in a completely casual manner.

>>85558359
Real talk. I seriously want Strange on Ultimates.

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>>85558921
>the main villain is Teen Jean

>>85558591
>Captain Britain
Also good.

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>>85559183
And in the sense that's it's using 2 parallel-y written Avengers books over the course of ~3 years to do that set-up.

>>85547724
I want to make love to this paneling

>>85559947
What has Braddock been up to? Haven't read anything with him since Hickmanvengers.

>>85560002
I don't think he's shown up since Hickmanvengers

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>>85558935
Making Death jelly.

>>85547808
Ant Man isn't black. he can't join the Ultimates

>>85559740
>it's not like I can do anything to change your opinion
Way to have a defeatist attitude, anon.

>>85559878
It is really weird that they don't have a magic user on the team. That seems pretty important when you're dealing with the scale they are.

>>85558591
>The only good replacement for her is captain Britain
Sounds good to me. Shit, considering this is Ewing writing, I wouldn't even mind if he brought in his Captain Faiza. Although I imagine that would just lead to even more shitposting than already happens.

>>85560185
I can recognise a hateboner when I see one

>>85547808
Kudos to Thanos, really I like when he uses his brain more than his brawn, but I'm not sure this counts as a check mate scenario.

Unless he was psychically influencing the Ultimates their little scuffle was complete chance. How would he have convinced Anti-Man otherwise?
I guess I can accept that his "My move" means he was just willing to patiently wait for an opportunity, but it seems a little abrupt how it came around. To be fair though Ewing doesn't have all day with Bendis' shit de-re-compression pacing style in CWII causing things to drag out and then suddenly escalate instantly.

On a side note points to MAC for that wormhole feint on Monica, and the Mega Man slide thing just for style.

>>85560002
He hasn't appeared, but then, that's pretty par for the course. Marvel UK tends to get ignored most of the time. We'll get an arc or two with Captain Britain every couple years, then one big attempt at revitalizing Marvel UK once a decade.

We've still got 5 or so more years to go on that front thanks to Revolutionary War bombing.

>>85560315
he's been following the Ultimates since they went to get Anti-Man, it's entirely possible the entire Cosmic Cube thing was a ruse to get close to Ant-Man

>>85560167
No, but Giant Man is Hispanic and he's an honorary Ultimate

I think he's gay, too

>>85560453
>it's entirely possible the entire Cosmic Cube thing was a ruse to get close to Ant-Man
Somehow I both can and can't believe a keikaku of that magnitude devised by Thanos. Which says everything about his current characterization by Marvel.

>>85547936
>; no one has a role and "whoever's best suited is in charge."

My problem with the team is that with the exception of T'Challa, the whole core team has pretty much the same powerset. Where's the flexibility?

>>85547653

America Chavez just chimps out all of a sudden? What??? Have previous issues established building tensions between her and Carol?

>>85560706
America has been chomping at the bit for a chance to go ham on the team

>>85560706
The Ultimates section from Avengers #0 set up that she joined the team with the intention of keeping tabs on them then taking them out if they ever crossed the line. She's basically just been waiting for an excuse.

>>85560706
The very first issue flat our states she's looking for a reason to fuck these niggas up.

Read the comic, anon.
It's good.

>>85560598
>Where's the flexibility?

If you hit something hard enough, I don't think you'll actually need to do the splits.

>>85560471
Indian.

>>85560943

Yeah, but if you want the team to be able anything other than a "fuck shit up" team, they're pretty limited. They could probably all be taken out by some comics "anti-energy" device.

>>85562276
I mean, Blue Marvel is also a brilliant scientist, Carol has a military operation on speed dial, Black Panther is ruler of the most scientifically advanced civilization on the planet, Monica knows about weird shit, and MAC is a dimension hopper

the fact that they're also massive powerhouses (other than Panther) is just a bonus

>>85562276
They could probably use a magician, once magic is revived. Who would fit in best on this team?

>>85547706

See? This is wht Batman is better than Black Panther, nigga is always to busy being smug and going ''no, for real! Wakanda is better at everything! look at me I'm important!''

>>85562733
Carol pls go

>>85562674
Loki

>Lemire said he wants Thanos to be Marvel's most iconic villain
They're just desperate that all their best bad guys like Doom or Magneto are currently heroes.

>>85553035
Meanwhile in other recent stories Spider-Man punched Herc in Gods of War 03 and damn near broke his hand. Silly Spidey: gods are not street level villains you can bully.

>>85547378
That art could destroy them forever

So people like this shit?

>>85562276
You know, if there's a problem in the Marvel universe that being really strong and/or super science can't fix, you're probably looking at magic. But hell, demons get punched all the time too. So, really, what exact other stuff do you expect them to need?

>>85547613
>one of our Citizens
Is Black Panther a US citizen now? I'm honestly asking, because I haven't really been keeping up, to be honest.

Am I the only one that wants to see America smack down Carol again, but harder? Not that I don't like Carol, but that chair and table to the face was badass.

>>85564816
They're a citizen of Earth.

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>>85560114
>Thanos
>making Death jelly
Maybe in his wank fantasies

>>85564816
He says 'your', you troglodyte.

>>85549582
Remember that Annihilation What If where Cap and Tony stopped their feud immediately in the face of a cosmic threat?

That ain't happening.

>>85563541
Andrew J Shaw pls go