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>>85536734
Where's Becky?

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>>85536781
>Billie will never smash you between her monster thighs.
Why live?

>>85536785
Sniffing Joyce's dirty shirts, I assume.

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Bad news, Willis is jumping around again
Good news, Dina just fuckin' wrekt Sarah's shit.

>>85538039
>Without you around my life stops passing the Bechdel Test.

Willis, are you fucking kidding me.

>>85538039
>Strip doesn't have Becky
>Dorothy and Joyce have normal friendly interaction
>My mind inserts Becky's "whoa that sounds lesbianariffic" commentary

Well, great, my brain's broke.

>>85538039
Is Dorthy a parody of dumb college feminists or meant to be a serious character?

>>85536734
How come there aren't dicks drawn everywhere anymore if Ruth didn't do anything about them?

>>85538171
Dorothy was supposed to be Willis' insert for the strong independent female, but then people started pointing out that she was just a bitch most of the time, so he changed her to "girl with glasses #3".

I'm surprised he brought up the bechdel test at all considering how fucking stupid that thing is.

>>85538171
Dorothy is literally "who Willis wants to be some day". Take that as you will.

>>85538153
I assure you next comic will have her busting in making some sort of lesbian-centric remark.

>>85538039
>mlg_teletubbies.avi
>oh-baby-a-triple.wav
>airhorn.jpg

All I see is more opportunity for copying and pasting.

Also, is there any reason for this? Dina's not normally passive aggressive, or at least that's what I've figured her character to be. She seems more like someone who says things bluntly WITHOUT thinking it might be a burn on somebody else.

>>85538254
That or Joyce's mom shows up to be a bitch.

>>85538284
All weekend she's had to listen to Sarah say "When Joyce comes back she'll be sad! When Becky comes back she won't love you! Nothing matters! NOTHING MATTERS!"

I'd be tired of her shit too.

>>85538315
>all weekend
As far as I saw, they barely interacted. Dina tagged along, but after that we dropped right into the whole Carla/Mary thing, didn't we?

>>85538373
Go back and read it again, up until the Carla Mary thing Dina and Sarah don't actually split up.

I mean hell, in story time this all took place only about three hours ago.

>>85538284
shes not passive aggressive but shes made jokes at peoples expense before
its also possible she didnt mean for this to be a burn

>>85538403
Yeah, but this is Willis Time.
Three hours is at least two weeks.

>>85538439
No, I mean the whole Mary trying to stop the RA from finding out about Ruth?

THAT was three hours ago.

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>>85538403
>Its been almost half a year and less then a week of in universe time has passed
fuck, I've wasted so much of my life on this comic and its going nowhere

>>85538039
>my life doesn't pass the bechdel test

well Dorothy maybe if you weren't such a frothing racist and believed in eugenics you could make friends with Dina or Black Girl

>>85538488
And that was at least two weeks time.

>>85538488
>>85538403
I'm confused as hell because according to this image, there was a one-week gap between the end of that nonsense and the start of the hospital scene. But I just remembered Joyce's dad was with them at the hospital, as if it was the same day.

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>>85538765
Fuck, forgot to upload it.

>>85538765
>>85538774
>seven real-world days later
>real-world
it is still the same day in comic

>>85538765
>>85538774
It was one day.
I probably should have added a small "(but like an hour or two in comic time)" blurb somewhere.

>>85538774
The several days later thing refers to real time. As in, it took like four days for us to get back to Billie and Ruth because Willis put in a couple strips of Danny and Ethan being gay for each other.

>>85538589
She also has a female roommate so it's an especially weird statement. But "lol, so meta' right?

>>85538801
Days in the comic are explicitly different from real-world days, since they are not in the real-world.

>>85538913
>She also has a female roommate so it's an especially weird statement. But "lol, so meta' right?
pretty sure it was a joke

>>85538937
silly anon, Willis doesn't know how to make jokes

>>85538991
i mean apparently some of you seem to think so

>>85538937
The joke only comes near to being funny in the meta sense that Dorothy is a supporting character and basically only appears around Joyce or Walky, and sometimes Danny.

>>85538039

>Bechdel test

That's kinda ridiculous considering the last two weeks or so of comics have centered almost entirely around a female cast with only one male that I can recall.

I don't think there's any way this comic could NOT pass the test as I understand it.

>>85539102
she talks to amber a bunch too

>>85538115
to be fair that was something from the comic itself, not just willis randomly namedropping some feminist bullshit

>>85539208

It can be both

>>85539102
>>85539153
Who is Dorothy's roommate? Joyce/Sarah, Dina/Amber, Billie/Sal, Mary/Roz, and Carla has a single.

>>85538315
Dina has Hank to thank for that, otherwise Becky and Joyce would have had to deal with all the church people after the service.

>>85539339
dorothys roommate is sierra

>>85539152
Doesn't this series fail the reverse Bechdel Test? Knowing Willis, that was absolutely on purpose.

>>85539368
no it doesnt

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>>85539368
i was curious about this so i checked; it passes the regular test in the first strip; if danny getting beat up here counts it passes the reverse test only a month in

and if this doesnt count it passes two months later when joe and danny finally talked about something other than which girls are bangable

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>>85539585
and it passes the "racial bechdel test" by strip 3

>>85539687
>>85539585
Is there some kind of test for gay characters to discuss anything other than their sexuality or romantic interests?

>>85539997
"The Actually Having A Fucking Plot Test"

>>85539997
If there is, BOY has Willis failed it with flying colors.

>>85539997
dunno but we could make one
should it be only gay characters or do bi characters count

>>85540049
Nah, he'd pass it with Ethan and Mike at the very least.

>>85540241
I guess there's that one strip where Mike calls Ethan's haircut shitty. I feel like they mostly talk about their straight friend, Amber, or how gay Ethan is. Because they literally have no other interests in common.

>>85540328
well talking about amber would still count as talking about something other than their sexuality or romantic interests

but if bi characters count it passes when ruth and billie fight at their first floor meeting. they definitely werent romantic interests yet

>>85540171
Bi counts, the two characters must discuss something other than their sexuality or romantic interests. If the two characters in a relationship the conversation must be about something unrelated to their relationship.

There already exists the Vito Russo test, but it's format doesn't work well with on-going works.

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>>85540393
ok then it passes a couple weeks in

>>85540382
They have to be identified as bi or gay to count.

>>85540428
okay that makes it harder because its not allowed to pass until after theyve already discussed their sexuality at least once. not sure that rule really fits.

but billie and ruth were revealed as bi in the walkyverse before doa started so they should still count

>>85540423
Goddamn Willis could not fucking draw two comics at the same time. Look at Sarah in that first strip, she looks like she's Joyce's size while Ruth just towers over everybody.

>>85538039
I want to throw Joyce on the ground and feed her sweater puppies.

>>85540423
Goddamn, this comic has always had shit writing, hasn't it? I vaguely remember it starting out well.

>>85540460
They don't have to discuss their sexuality, just be identified to the readers as bi or gay. In this case the strip here, >>85540423, doesn't apply because neither of them have been identified as gay or bi.

Alt universes don't count either unless they're directly tied into the work.

>>85540423
Legit, why is Sarah letting Ruth manhandle her? Bitch is like twice her size.

>>85540534
okay well the comic still passes but im not gonna read through to find the earliest strip cause it probably wasnt for a while

>>85540423
I'm pretty sure this is Ruth's form of flirting, so I don't count it

>>85540609
>Ruth's form of flirting
I guarantee you he didn't have a single thought of pairing Ruth and Billie up at that point.

>>85539152
They talked about Carla. It failed.

>>85539152
And most of the female cast appear to be lesbians so it's not like they fail on the grounds that they just talk about boys all the time

>>85540047
Ha, underrated post

>>85540688
Billie was supposed to be bi but I'm sure Willis doesn't care anymore.

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>>85540728
he seems to at least care about people remembering correctly

>>85538039

I heard that brown girl here started as one of the leads of the comic and in time got replaced by light brown hair girl here.

How come that nobody gives Willy shit for taking a minority out of the spot, specially a black woman, to be replaced by a white girl?

>>85540759
joyce was always the main character so that didnt happen

>>85540759
Light Brown as in Joyce? Joyce was ALWAYS the lead.

Sarah was still technically replaced by Dorothy who was replaced by Becky, who has replaced Joyce as the lead, so it still counts that the black character got pushed out by white girls.

>>85540759
Willis has two black characters with comically large lips.

One looks like diglet the other only talks to joyce and only shows up slightly more than the aforementioned diglet

I ain't sayin Willis doesn't care about black people, but Willis doesn't are about black people

>>85540833
It's one of those things that people on his site don't like to talk about, and it's one the theories as to why the whole "You were born whiter than me" thing from Sal got awkward, because Sal and Walky legit just look like every other white person but with deep tans, while Sarah and Diglett are straight up black black.

It's like, either Willis can admit that Sal is 3/4s white, or keep pretending that there's a race issue there.

>>85540919
>Sal and Walky

Are you shitting me? I thought that Walky was just white and if Sal is shitty accent girl ,she looks fucking asian!

Jesus fuck, just what kind of person likes this shit?

>>85541007
SJW's.

To his credit Willis has found his audience, and they're willing to pay him 5k a month for this shit.

>>85540919
I think Jacob might actually be whiter than Walky and Sal.

And to be fair to Willis, he has admitted he wrote himself into a corner with Sarah's personality. A recluse with social issues doesn't make for good lead character material.

>>85541047
When did he ever admit that?

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>>85540534
>>85540566
i lied
at this point billies already mentioned wanting to fuck girls and this is the first strip daisy was in that DIDNT talk about her being a lesbian
so it took 2 years to pass

>>85541047
>A recluse with social issues doesn't make for good lead character mater

Unless you are a shit writter like Willis, I can see how people could explore a character like that, even I already have ideas.

Hell, that would have been a great oportunty to write an arc about her becoming a better person in general.

But somehow removing the character was better...???

>>85541111
he didnt remove her though. shes, like, right there

>>85538589
>not wanting to be friends with judgey arseholes and autists is a bad thing
Yeah fuck no.

>>85541118
I think he's trying to say she's been demoted to juuuuust above Jacob and deaf girl friend of Sal tier when originally she was a lead character along with Joyce and Walky at the start

>>85541118
yeah but she use to be one of the leads.

So he effectively replaced a black girl with social issues with a white generic girl

>>85541147
she's already dating Walky, a literal man baby autist

>>85541187
Man children aren't actually autistic. Further he's pretty young. Dina literally cannot understand facial expressions. Are you for really nigger?

>>85541187
Still a step up from Danny, the human equivalent of a boiled potato.

>>85541186
lesbian is the new black

>>85541210
Walky once ate his math test when he got an F. If that isn't autistic nothing is

>>85541186
i dont agree that sarah was ever really one of the leads. she showed up a lot at first because shes joyces roommate and joyce didnt have a lot of friends yet, but she never really drove the story

>>85541239
Nothing is then, I suppose.

What he did was stupid, unreasonable, retarded and illogical but I knew a girl who fucked a tree at a party. Just got in the mood and ground off against the bark. Are you saying she's autistic? Probably not right but she's pretty fucking stupid regardless.

>>85541287
oh, I thought we were talking about "autist" not actual autistic people

Nigga if my choice was hanging out with Walky or Dina you bet your ass I'd choose Dina in a heartbeat.
She may talk a lot about dinosaurs but at least she somewhat listens. Walky would just throw up about that shitty cartoon he loves and then complain about how he wants McDonalds

>>85541243
Now I'm trying to think of plots for Sarah.

>>85541047
He shouldn't have leaned so much into the social issues aspect, while being super vague about it. Her worldly misanthropy could've been fun with an angry Joyce, but he rushed Joyce off on their trip before they had a chance to interact.

He'd much rather write about Becky, because he believes gay issues are easier to do.

>>85541371
No shit, Willis is just an annoying lesbian stucky in shlubby annoying man's body

>>85541350
>Walky would just throw up about that shitty cartoon he loves and then complain about how he wants McDonalds
As long as he can hold conversation well and does come off as a drop kick in demeanour I'd rather go to maccas with him then hang around in the radio silence that talking to autistic Dina would cause.
>she listens
So do animals it doesn't make them excellent conversationalists.

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>>85541396
We will have to agree to disagree

>>85538039
holy shit shes a collage age autistic person not a fucking martian
did i miss something with her character? was Dina kept in a box for most of her life or something because most autistic people have learned to cope a hell of a lot by the later teens.
as an aspie i can clarify that shit

>>85541441
I think the pertinent thing to take away from this is that without something to direct the conversation towards neither of them are the kind of people you'd want to hang with for more than an hour or two.

>>85541371
The stuff that he wrote with Sarah and Dina early in this arc was pretty enjoyable, but he dropped that just when it reached a point that he could use it to develop the characters.

>>85541482
>aspie
Kek, it's pronounced autist
t. DSM-V

>>85541482
I knew an aspie kid growing up who attended the same college as me, he was pretty sheltered and poorly socialized as a kid and acted pretty similar to Dina. He was a lot better in social situations by his sophomore year.

>>85541482
the trick is to think that Dina isn't autistic. Willis said he based Dina on how he talks and interacts with people. So Dina is just another stand in for Willis.

All things lead back to Willis

>>85541623
>Willis said he based Dina on how he talks and interacts with people
What the fuck? Willis is an autist? I don't understand this correctly do I?

>>85541643
He's not autistic, he's just shit at interaction. I believe he was being hyperbolic with how bad he is at it but who the fuck knows.

If he was autistic he wouldn't even know, he doesn't trust doctors. Man has had seizures so bad that he shits himself all his adult life and has never been to a doctor about it

>>85538219
>but then people started pointing out that she was just a bitch most of the time
Really? I've always liked her character though. Still do.

>>85541623
>So Dina is just another stand in for Willis.
ok so i keep seeing this for a ton of the other character and how they represent different facets of Willis, like having a place of reference to approach writing your character is a good thing but god they aren't all supposed to be different version of you. they're all supposed to be vaguely multi faceted or at least entertaining people.
is this why they all feel like they escaped from side characters in a b plot from Scrubs?
and god Willis i know you like that show but you leared the shallowest writing lessons from it, characters cant all be witty quip machines or "lovable" jerks like Cox, and the occasional drama doesn't automatically humanize a character.

>>85541706
>Man has had seizures so bad that he shits himself all his adult life and has never been to a doctor about it
>unexplained seizing
Hahah fuck that nigger is dying of tumours

>every character, even when talking is drawn with a white mouth/their teeth closed
this disgusts me

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>>85540423
Ruth was always physically abusive to Mary, wasn't she?

>>85538215
I think they eventually got removed, but I'm pretty sure it was by Joyce, with some help from someone else?

>>85538219
>I'm surprised he brought up the bechdel test at all considering how fucking stupid that thing is.
He had an entire chapter called The Bechdel Test. Good luck convincing him that it's no good.

This was drawn recently enough that he should know that the name of the test was amended to the Bechdel-Wallace Test, as requested by Bechdel herself.

The test points out female representation but is by no means a measure of feminism. If Dorothy doesn't feel like her life is passing the test, then she should, you know, make more female friends.

>>85538284
>She seems more like someone who says things bluntly WITHOUT thinking it might be a burn on somebody else.
Yeah, she's being actively rude here. But she's been actively rude toward Joyce before, so it's not unheard of. But it is weird.

>>85538291
That's a 4-hour drive. So if she were showing up, it'll be, uh, December, maybe?

>>85539368
Walky, Joe, Mike, Ethan, and Danny have all had varying degrees of conversation about themselves, nachos, shoes, and a bunch of other stuff. It's not super-often, but it's definitely there.

One of the chapters was about Walky needing an extra pair of shoes because he's an idiot and thinks guys can only have one pair of shoes. He and Dorothy went and talked to guy so he could get more shoes, but he was an active participant talking to a named male about something other than women.

>>85540534
>neither of them have been identified as gay or bi.
Billie is easily identified as bi, and the TIME of the identification of such shouldn't affect whether the strip passes or not.

Billie is established as being really into guys at various points, but she also had some serious relationships with females in high school and obviously ended up with Ruth. Billie's discussion of guys prior to getting with Ruth is why no one thought she'd be bi.

>>85540688
That's difficult to argue. Here's the most recent sexuality list. Hyphens (-) next to female characters.

Straight:
-Mary
Joyce's would-be rapist (Ryan)
-At least one of the Rachels (there are two)
-Sierra
-Agatha
-Dorothy
Walky
-Joyce
-Amber/Amazi-Girl
-Sarah
-Sal
-Jocelyne/Josh
-Roz
Joe
Jacob
-Lucy
Ken

Bi:
-Robin
-Ruth
-Marcie
-Billie
Danny
Mike
-Malaya

Gay:
-Leslie
-Grace
-Mandy
-Newspaper editor-in-chief (Daisy)
-Becky
Ethan
Sayid (or bi?)
Bryan (bi?)

Asexual:
-Dina?
-Carla
Galasso

>>85541715
>they aren't all supposed to be different version of you. they're all supposed to be vaguely multi faceted or at least entertaining people.
Yeah, I would say that's a significant issue. It's why all the characters seem flat--they're just small bits of Willis. He can't bear to expand them into something more, because then they wouldn't be a part of him anymore. See what happened to Danny? He used to be the self-insert, but now he's just the white bland kid who has no idea what he's doing with himself but not in an interesting way.

>>85541997
>TIME of the identification of such shouldn't affect whether the strip passes or not.

I based it on the Vito Russo test which states that the characters have to be identifiable as gay or bi. Contextually it's important as DoA is an on-going strip with no long-term planned plotlines.

>>85542047
Robin's sexuality is ambiguous. There is no indication that she's attracted to men and her entire character is that she's a good ol' boy politician. Likewise Marcie's never shown any attraction outside of Malaya.

>>85542241
>Robin's sexuality is ambiguous. There is no indication that she's attracted to men and her entire character is that she's a good ol' boy politician. Likewise Marcie's never shown any attraction outside of Malaya.
I know this doesn't affect the Vito Russo test, but Willis has stated in Word of God mode that their sexualities carry over from the rest of the Walkyverse, which gives them their (thus-far) canonical attractions.

So you can theoretically assume that they have those sexualities in perpetuity, not just once it's announced.

But you're right--they aren't identifiable nearly as easily in-universe, because Willis sucks at showing his universe without assuming we'll fill in the details ourselves with meta-knowledge.

>>85542293
>Willis has stated in Word of God mode

Well that is already wrong. Danny wasn't bi before DOA

and no, he wasn't bi but it never came up. He dated girls and shit/ never showed attraction to males like he does in DOA

>>85542342
It's been a long time since I saw the actual text, but the way Willis phrased it made it seem like attractions could be added but not subtracted. So gay to bi but not bi to straight, and definitely not from straight to gay. Which is really fucking weird to me, cause they're not collections of attractions, they're distinct sexualities.

>>85542478
It sounds like "gay" can be added but not subtracted.

>>85542478
Willis can't be bothered to look down in the shower for references before drawing a penis; so you really think he understands what human sexuality entails?

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>>85541889
Pretty sad considering that this is probably the abuse she suffered from her own grandfather that she hates/fears so much.

She's grown up to become her own monster.

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>>85542969

Pretty much. She was a total asshole so there is less sympathy to be felt regardless of the danger she will be put in.

Now had she just been a strict RA and stepped over the line once and gotten this backlash. This would be a different situation.

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>>85543016
There's not enough Christian feet.

>>85542969
>Post with Sigmund Freud
>Ends with 69
I wish I could say I planned these sorta things.

>>85541889
Wait, did she fucking hit her? Any nothing... NOTHING was done? This isn't an edit, right? This is actually proof that one character assaulted and battered another. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but the one in the position of authority did it, right?

Nothing was done? At ALL?

Fuck this comic.

>>85543925
but anon, she hit a devout christian.

That makes it okay!

>>85543975
If you want to stretch a point you could call it sexually aggravated assault

>>85543925
C'mon anon, line anything on DoA made sense!
- About 50% of all people are gay?
- Ruth is depended on her R.A. job in order to get away from an abusive home... so she does that job so incredible wrong like she was asking to be fired?
- A girl like Billie can't get a boyfriend in college... in what universe???
- A jerk like Walky can get a girlfriend? And have sex?
- Nobody in charge notices Ruth being an alcohol addict?
- Claire is supposed to be trans, althought she is the most perfect female... w-wait, that was QC, but anyway!
- Joyce's dad has raised all his kids in a staunch fundamental believe, but he is actually very cool, though?
- Mary uses swear words?
- Ruth doesn't ever give a shit about anybody, except to risk her existence for poor little Carla?
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>>85541287
>Just got in the mood and ground off against the bark.

>>85541744
>Hahah fuck that nigger is dying of tumours

We should be so lucky

>>85543016
>>85543028

Keep your degenerate fetishes to yourself