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Wich characters do you consider to be the essential "Batfamily"

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Wich characters do you consider to be the essential "Batfamily" ?
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Batman
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>>85525303
Bruce and Alfred
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>>85525303
Bats, Alfred, Dick, Jason, Damian, Oracle and Cass.

Maybe Kate and Steph.
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>>85525328
pic related minus kate ,cass and tim
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Bats aren't a family. They're an Order.

As for familes -Perhaps Vespertilionidae
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Batman and Alfred. Rest can jump in river.
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>>85525370

>Kate and Steph
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>>85525511
Someone has to be more interesting Batgirl.
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Bruce, Alfred, Dick, Damian, and Selina would be more than enough.
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>>85525303
Batman/Bruce, Alfred, and Dick, as either Robin or Nightwing.
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>>85525303
Alfred.

Dick can stay as the kid who grew out of Batman's shit as a teen and became his own man. Maybe Jason but I'd prefer him dead with lessons learned. Also mayyybbeeee Babs but only as Oracle... with lessons learned.

Tim is shit. Cass is shit. Steph is fucking... who even cares? Batwoman is shit. Damian was only ever not shit as Robin for Dick's Batman. Resurrected Jason only has potential as Dick's Joker; current Jason is shit. New 52 additions are the same Tims and Stephs with a new coat of paint.
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>>85525428
>>85525654
>Catwoman
Batman family should only be people Bruce is wiling to share his Identity with. Not some flip flopping whore.
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>>85525796
Hush was a mistake.
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Bruce
Alfred
Dick
Babs
Tim
Cass
Steph

Jason has no reason being in the Bat Family if he continues to kill people on a regular basis.
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i want to be in a pseudo-incestual bat orgy with bruce, dick, jason, and damian
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>>85525796

Just from what I can think about he shared his identity with her on Hush and on Injustice so fuck off
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>>85525796
Batman has shared his identity with Catwoman.
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hey guys
remember BATWING?
g-guys?
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>>85525511
Well Kate is literally a member of Batman's family.
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>>85525428
why is Selina a nigger?
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>>85526055
The first six issues of this weren't bad, actually.
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>>85526055
I miss you David fuck Luke.
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>>85526052

>Terry
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>>85525303
Get rid of Jason and Damien and put in Tim
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>>85526119
>Timfags
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>>85525303
Batman, Alfred, Nightwing, Jason as Red Hood, Tim as Robin, Oracle and Batwoman
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>>85526062
she's a thief. it's pretty self-explanatory
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>>85525370
>babs
>any women outside Cass


Alfred
Bruce
Dick
Jason
Tim
Cass
Damian

That's it.

If there's no brotherly or paternal relationship between the character they are not part of the Batfamily.


Steph, babs, and Kate are not and will never be batfamily, just allies.
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Bruce, Alfred, Dick, and Babs are the "essentials". Tim's becoming Robin was directly because of what happened with Jason and there are three continuities at least (New 52 movies, Millarverse and DCAU) where Jason or Tim seemingly don't exist. This isn't so much to say that Tim wouldn't happen anyway (see: DCAU), but it wouldn't have the same impact that it was supposed to. Meanwhile, Damian is arguable, but really works best with Dick, especially since prior to the New 52 Bruce didn't have the patience to deal with him. (And the animated movies dropped the ball hard). I don't need to explain the girls.
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>>85526055
I always counted him and the rest of Batman-INC as allies rather than family, so more friends rather than the people you pretend to like sitting down with for Christmas dinner.

I now realise I want a holiday themed Batfamily comic.
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>>85526134
I don't particularly like Tim I just consider him part of the "core" family. Alfred should be there too I was just going by the picture.

I'm a Cassfag and I don't really consider her part of the family. I'm basing my choices primarily on their relationship with Batman.
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>>85525428
Who is the taller Robin?
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>>85525847
>>85526003
>>85526020
>Hush
And it was fucking pointless. Catwoman being too close to batman just make their relationship worse.
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>>85526227
You mean Tim as Red Robin?
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>>85525428
The guy in between Jason and Cass? That's Tim.
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>>85525428
Whats the fucking point of putting Barbara in there?
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>>85525303

Here's how I'd do it

>Bruce
>Alfred
>Dick
>Jason (only if he stays dead forever)
>Barbara (only as Oracle)

Tim, Steph, Cass, and Damian are pushing it even though I like them. No one cares about Duke or Harper.
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>>85526350
It's done by the person who thought they should put "BATMAN CHARACTERS HEIGHT CHART" over the picture of Batman characters standing in front of a height chart.
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>>85525428
>metric scale

am I supposed to understand that?
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>>85526225

Didn't Bruce legally adopt Cass or something before Flashpoint?
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>>85525796

That's just your opinion man.
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>>85525303
Well alright, here you go.

Bruce Wayne
Alfred Pennyworth
Jim Gordon
Lucius Fox
Selina Kyle
Dick Grayson
Barbara Gordon
Jason Todd
Harold Allnut
Tim Drake
Jean-Paul Valley
Cassandra Cain
Helena Bertinelli
Stephanie Brown
Onyx Adams
Gavin King
Damian Wayne
Kate Kane
Bette Kane
Colin Wilkes
Beryl Hutchinson
Michael Lane
David Zavimbi
Clancy Johnson
Bilal Asselah
Jiro Osamu
Johnny Riley
Bill Great Eagle
Ravil
Wendy White
Luke Fox
Julia Pennyworth
Duke Thomas
Ace the bat-hound
Titus
Alfred (cat)
Batcow

Just the essentials. Fuck Harper.
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Bruce Wayne
Dick Grayson
Alfred
Tim Drake
Damien Wayne
Barbara Gordon
Cassandra
Stephanie Brown
Bette Kane
Kate Kane

Optional: Carrie

Catwoman is not a Batfamily member and as far as I'm concerned Jason should be dead.
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>Bruce
>Alfred
>Dick
>Oracle
>Jason's dead body
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>>85525303
Bruce and Alfred

Dick becomes estranged

Terry 30-40 years later
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>>85526568
He did, yes. Same with Tim.
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>>85526616

Wait... I forgot Ace the Batdog.

They need to bring him back.
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>>85525910
This. Only people who "get" the mission are allowed in.
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>>85525303
Batman
Nightwing
Robin
Oracle
Alfred
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>>85525428
>Dick's 5'9-5'10
>Jason's 5'8
>Tim's 5'6

Did Alfred just slowly stop giving a shit about proper nutrition for the Robins?
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Everybody who's not an OC donut steel, i.e. Damian, Harper, Duke, etc.
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Batman having a Big Batman family is fucking garbage. Just Keep it Alfred, Dick, Babs(oracle), Cass, TIm and dead Jason. No shitty Selina, Kate, and Damian.
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>>85525303
Bruce, Alfred, Dick, Damian. Maybe Cass.
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Bats, Alfred, Gordon & Dent (pre-acid)
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>>85526762
The chart is off. Jason is the biggest Robin. He's suppose to be 6'0.
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>>85525303
"Batman", "Robin" & Alfred.
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>>85526762
>What are genetics?
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>>85526638
This is the objectively best list
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>>85526669
He's from the future though
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>>85526926
Fuck off DCAUfag
He existed before Beyond
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Bruce
Alfred to keep him human
Dick to remind him of his triumphs
Jason to remind him of his failures
Tim to remind him that you can be a hero without a tragedy
Damian to remind him that people can change for the better
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>>85525303
Bruce, dick, Tim, Jason, Damien, Alfred and gordon
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>>85526762
>Did Alfred just slowly stop giving a shit about proper nutrition for the Robins?
Going by Jason's height and weight in this death certificate? Yes.
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>>85527178
>15
>87 lbs
>4'6"

Fuck Red Manlet.
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>>85527178
Do writers not guess the average height or weight of children better? Have they ever even met a teenager?
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>>85527178
>15
>4'6
Haha what the fuck
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>>85527295
It's kind of stunning actually, all Manning would have had to do was ask Google average specs for teenager and gone from there.
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>>85525303

Bruce
Alfred
Damian - the biological son.
Dick - the dutiful adopted son.
Cassandra - the newly adopted daughter.

Tim - retired, but still best friends with Cassandra and dragged into vigilanting now and again.
Barbara - also retired but working with her father at Gotham Police Department in their C.S.I. division. Mentors Cass and is the "easy" one, and helps out Dick now and again.
Stephanie - supporting to Cass's ongoing. Also is in the tempting game of bringing Tim back into the game.
Luke - The Q to the family. Has all the toys those wonderful toys.
Kate - the teacher and also the mentor to Cass but the harder one. She see's the gal can be something more. Also works for the government dealing with mystical element in Gotham.
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>>85525428
>minus Kate, Cass, and Tim
>three of the best Batfamily members
>including Red Hood even though he's an antagonist most of the time
>not including Steph
The fuck is wrong with you?
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Alfred
Dick
Tim
Damian
Jason
Babs
Cass
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Dick, Tim, Damian.

Alfred.

Barbara.

I don't feel like Batwoman has to be a member of the Batfamily, but I'd like her to continue existing.

Jason should have stayed dead.
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Bruce
Barbara (eventually in a romantic relationship with Bruce, at least for a time)
Tim Drake (DCAU version)

Terry McGinnis, although his relationship wouldn't form until about 40 years into the future.

I dislike Dick and am don't really have any strong feelings towards Damian Wayne one way or the other
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>>85527824
go back to bed Timm
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>>85525303
Bruce
Alfred
Dick (if we really need an ex Robin)
Damian (sadly there is no going back at this point)
Harper
Barbara

All the others can be removed because they are redundant, especially Steph and Cass

I guess Kate should stay if they drop the "better than Batman" shtick
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>>85526199
kek
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>>85526638
THIS
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Outsiders
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>>85526199
Shouldn't Jason need to be black too, then? As a former thief/child prostitute.
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>>85527178
Was there any in universe scandal revolving around this? The mysterious death of a young boy living with an eccentric single billionaire would raise some eyebrows.
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>>85528247
He was killed in a terrorist attack in Africa while doing relief work/charity

Shit happens
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>>85528247
It's a miracle he lasted that long in Gotham anyway senpai
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>>85528297
Wow, I spaced. Thank you, man.
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>>85525328
why is first post best post

the entire batman mythology is that "batman" is this incredibly talented person who is also driven by something like madness, and who turns his fear into fearlessness, he is close to unique among humans, even Rhas believes this to be true

but oh look a bunch of faggots he just happened to bump into in one particular city and nearly as good as he is, and also keep the secret perfectly and have approximately the same moral compass and everything else is also the same

I'm not saying it strains credulity, the concept is absurd to begin with, I'm merely saying that it destroys even the manufactured plausibility, and makes the fantasy difficult to enjoy
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>>85528247
>Was there any in universe scandal revolving around this?
There was an issue after his death, where a social services guy investigated Bruce for awhile, didn't stop Bruce from adopting again so I guess he got away with it.
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>>85528430
To be far, he trained most of them himself and at least 1 or 2 of the ones he didn't were trained similarly anyway (one even purposely intended to succeed him). Still, a fair point.
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>>85528561
I almost made an ass of myself. I forgot that Bruce adopted Tim after Infinite Crisis or whichever event that was.
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>>85527972
>harper over cass or steph

are you high?
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>>85526052
fixed
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anarky
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>>85528678
From what I can remember of the order, and for all of it matters after all these reboots. Jason was adopted first, Dick next in Gotham Knights 17, then I think your right Tim and Cass after Crises.
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>>85528873
Duke and Harper are amazing characters. They provide a new depth to the Bat family instead of being copy and paste of previous characters like all of the robins. Duke Thomas and Harper Row they're something new and they're going to provide more iconic stories than any Robin ever has.
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>>85528991
Snyder please
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Alfred
All the Robins
All the Batgirls
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>>85528991
Get off of /co/, Snyder.
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>>85528873
No.
At this point Barbara is pretty much Steph so we don't need another one.
And I always found Cass to be a really bad character.
Harper's story of being a girl that grew up in the city and having to pull through for her brother is more appealing, in my opinion. I think as a character she has way more potential, especially considering how Damian stole the "bred to be an assassin and super special and learning to be more normal" gimmick from Cass.
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>>85529030
>>85528991
The shit taste on this board never ceases to amaze me.
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>>85525303

Alfred
Dick
Jason (Dead Edition)
Tim
Barbara
Terry


This is the only correct answer, anything else is WRONG. Selina Kyle is a villain who fucks Bats at times, not part of the family.
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>>85529015
>>85529024
I'm just saying read All-Star Batman, Duke has an important role in it and I think it might change your guys' opinions on him.
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>>85528247
>rich man buys young sex slave

That's as common as the fucking flu
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>>85529125
But 3 of them?

That's just getting greedy.
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>>85529092

You got Firefly wrong, you're dead to me Snyder.
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>>85529092

Duke can't be worse than Batwoman, Cass, Non-Murderous Jason, Steph.
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>>85529140
Two of them ran off to be there own sex slave, one died but he has a new one
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>>85529048
if we are playing that game I don't think Cassfags should be allowed to talk

>muh super special fighter that can beat everyone because she has super autism!
>omg but she is just a little girl that needs to be taught love!! how cute!!
>s-she can't barely talk! h-how cute!

she is perfect as waifubait and is not a surprise that she feels like she is out of some very bad anime
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>>85525303
I always thought Batwoman is a great heir to the name, some issues being bad be damned.

Anon...weve all had bad issues....
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>>85529182
>Cass
>Steph
That just hurts.
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>>85526107
Not the poster, but I like terry. He's a much more "human" batman in that he cares about his "family" instead of spending all his time brooding and being edgy. I know Bruce cares as well, but Terry seems much more compassionate and down to earth.
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>>85527178
>4'6
>87 Lbs

>miserable
>hated
>manlet

Jason is my new self insert character.
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>Always Batfamily
Bruce
Alfred
Damian
Dick

>Sometimes Batfamily (Mostly depending on the writer)
Tim
Jason

>Batfamily if the story needs to be padded out with extra characters
Babsgirl**
Bat-lesbian
Steph
Cass**
Duke Thomas, and Snyder's other OC toys

>Reaching
Catwoman
Gordon
Lucius Fox
Leslie Thompkins


**Pre-Flashpoint, I'd put both Cass as well as Babs as Oracle under "sometimes Batfamily". Now they're definitely just filler characters to add to the family when needed
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>>85529275
He's 6ft, shawty.
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>>85528991
>52nd IP
What did he mean by this?
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>>85529191
Whats the situation on Dicks public death in rebirth?
I know everyone forgot he was Nightwing, but I can't remember if the public thinks he's dead or not.
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>>85529306
>>85527178
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>>85529182
At least Steph and Cass have personalities, meanwhile I can't list any trait of Duke's that is interesting or endearing.
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>>85525303

>Essential Batfamily
Alfred
Dick
Tim
Barbara
Selena

>Extended Batfamily
Kate
Jason
Damian
Cass
Steph
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>>85529341
>>85529341
It got retconned in Grayson, so now his identity is secret again.
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>>85529341
>>85529404
Oh shit, I read that wrong.
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Batman
Alfred
Barbara
No Robins cause they're gay
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>>85529461
Timm please
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>>85529373
but being black is a character trait, anon, just look at miles morales
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>>85529343
>being short at 14 is considered being a manlet
Whatever gets you through the day, mi poco amigo
I was just about 5ft in 8th grade, by the time I was 20 I shot up to 6'2''
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>>85529092
I did read it. I still wouldn't put Duke in the essential Bat family.
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>>85529439
No worries, I think we're meant to think Spyral blanked everything about Dicks death and identity reveal from the public.
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>>85529491
If I were Timm, I'd say "Dick but estranged and fucking Selina"
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>>85529561
I think that's probably what happened
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>>85525303
Batman, Alfred and Dick

Everyone else is superfluous and I say that as someone that legitimately likes all the partners short of Babsgirl (unless she's Oracle) and Harper Row.
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>>85529573
Is it Timm or Dini that keeps pushing Bruce/Barbara and Dick/Selina? Because fuck whichever one it is.
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>>85529626
Timm, Dini prefers Batman and Zatanna
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>>85529626
Timm
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At a bare minimum Bruce, Alfred and Dick.

Personally I really liked where the Batfamily was at just prior to Nu52
Bruce
Alfred
Dick (Dickbats)
Damien
Jason (the estranged son)
Tim (finally standing on his own)
Barbara (Oracle)
Cass
Steph
Selina (fuck you I liked Heart of Hush)
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>>85529696
>>85529669
Then fuck Bruce Timm.
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>>85529744
Paul Dini wrote a much more interesting Hush than Loeb did.
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Pic + Ace, Titan & Batcow

Fuck everyone else
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>No Jean-paul
>All this shit taste.
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>>85529917
Why the fuck would Jean Paul be a member of the family?
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>>85529917
JPV sucks anon
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>>85525303
God Tier Batfamily Characters
>Bruce (obviously)
>Alfred
>Dick
>Terry McGuiness
>Jim Gordon
>Catwoman (fuck you she counts)

Good Tier Batfamily Characters
>Cassandra Cain
>Batwoman
>Oracle
>Huntress
>Jason Todd's Robin
>Stephanie Brown
>David Zavimbe's Batwing
>Leslie Thompkins


Meh Tier Batfamily Characters
>Red Hood
>Damian Wayne
>Tim Drake's Robin
>Lark
>Flamebird
>Julia Pennyworth

Bad Tier Batfamily Characters
>Barbara Gordon's Batgirl
>Red Robin
>Luke Fox's Batwing
>Harold
>Azrael
>Onyx
>Orpheus


OH SHIT NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING Tier Batfamily Characters
>Harper Row
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>>85529623
This.
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>>85525303
>Bruce
>Alfred
>Gordon
>Dick
>Tim
>Damian
>Babs as Oracle
>Cass
>Stephanie

>Catwoman, Jason, and Batwoman are a part of it, but shouldn't be part of the inner circle, and should be off doing their own thing.
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>>85529980

>Tim was the only one who believed Bruce was alive after FC, forged his own identity & even beat Ras Al Gual
>Now he's back to B-List

Damn I didn't even like Tim until Yost's Red Robin run, but it sucks how much he's gotten screwed over.
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>>85530192
Everything Scott Lobdel touched has turned to shit.
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>>85528904
I don't see any difference
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>>85531340
Nightwing's blue instead of red on the fixed version.
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>>85525428
isn;t Cass supposed to be 5'1?
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>>85530537

You know? You're absolutely right. I can't believe when that run started I said to myself. "Well.. it can't be any worse than what we've gotten in the past." Somehow that run destroyed every 90s character with only Beast Boy and Raven surviving because well they can.
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>>85530192
Good, Tim shouldn't be allowed to defeat Ra's
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>>85529980
>Julia Pennyworth
Completely forgot about her
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>>85525303
Batman, Alfred and the robins.
Batgirls are just interns.
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Bruce
Dick
Babs
Jason
Alfred
Tim
Damian
Steph
Cass

I guess Catwoman as well. Don't really care for Batwoman personally.
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Batman
Alfred
Jim Gordon
Robin
Batgirl
Huntress
Man-Bat

My rule is, if you got a feature in the Batman Family comic, you get to be part of the Batfamily
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>>85531382
and Batwoman's lips
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>>85528904
Can someone photoshop this Catwoman on that pic? I think it would make a nice wallpaper
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Bruce
Alfred
Tim
Jason
Dick
Cass
Ace the Bat-Hound

Damian

I don't like Damian, but he is Bruce's son, so I guess he has to be part of the family.

All else are allies and friends, but not Family.

You can pick your friends, but Family is Family, whether they're blood or not.
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>>85529192
Cass is the only person other than Bruce that truly came to The Mission of her own free will and experiences, who cares more about The Mission than she does about Bruce, who wants to be Batman (not even sure she'd change the name) because that's what the world needs, not because it's her inheritance or to prove a point or out of obligation.

She is her Fathers' daughter, and she makes them both very proud.
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Batman works better as a character if he is alone.

I have always hated the idea of the Robins and Oracle, they detract from his character and are often used as a cheap plot device.

Alfred is the only acceptable member of the family.

Catwoman and The Joker also make sense being close to the Batman in context
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>>85530192
Cass wasn't allowed to exist in written issues after FC.

She would've been right there next to Tim, though.

Writers who hate my son or daughter can go to hell. Fuck the nu52 so far.
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>>85533040

I'm interested now.What Cass books do you reccomend?
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>>85534300
She was first introduced in No Man's Land, then moved on to her own series written by Kelley Puckett's Batgirl run.
Avoid anything with the name "Beechen" on the cover.
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>>85525698
Pretty much this, Jason I guess as the dead Robin who went evil and the bawwstory but he's not essential.
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>>85534413
Jason was better off as a symbol of Batman's failure rather than as a character after he came back.
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>>85528904
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>>85528991
>Duke Thomas and Harper Row they're something new

Harper is Steph and Tim's love child.

Duke is just Tim but black.
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>>85533089

>muh batman works alone

You realize Robin has been around for 76 years right? And Batman for 77.

So that's only 1 year in wich Batman was by himself.

Saying he works better alone is just retarded since he was basically never alone to begin with.
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>>85534457
I never understood how Jason is a symbol of Batman's failure.
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>>85529980

Finally! Someone else remembered Orpheus!

I'd move Damian up to good myself but otherwise perfect.
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>>85534682
name 10 stories where Robin is essential that are critically acclaimed and popular
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>>85534734

>Name 10 essential Robin stories
>B-But don't name the good ones or the popular ones!
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>>85534760
no, I asked 10 stories where Robin is an essential part that can't be removed or replaced without the story suffering that are also critically acclaimed and popular
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>>85534393

Read Batgirl Vol. 1 #1-37, and the Batgirl: Secret Files & Origins #1. #39-57 is Dylan Horrocks run which isn't bad but plagued by bad art at first until #45. #38, 58-73 is Andersen Gabrych's run. It starts out pretty good, but then after #68 it just goes at full speed into a VERY rushed ending.

Avoid Robin #148-151, Teen Titan: Titans East, and Batgirl Vol. 2 #1-6. All of these are either written or co-written by Adam Beechen. It's basically editorial saying, "She MUST TURN HEEL!" And Beechen the writer going, "Okay I haven't read any issues of the character so here we go!"

Beechen pulled a hat trick in destroying Cass and Tim with his Robin run, wrote one of the worst characterizations of Dick in Batgirl V. 2, and thankfully he focused more on his OC which he shoved down our throats in his issues of Countdown and the spin-off mini then ruining Jason.
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>>85534734
>>85534826

There are easily more than ten. Just google "essential Robin stories".

One of mine is "Under the Red Hood". But there are plenty that comic experts (or google) could point you towards.
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>>85534826

>Son of Batman
>Batman & Robin (Morrison Run)
>Batman Inc
>Batman & Robin (Nu52 run)
>Dark Victory
>Robin Year One
>Batgirl Year One
>A Lonely Place of Dying
>Batman: Thrillkill
>Under the Red Hood
>Death in the Family
>Death of the Family.
>All Star Batman & Robin

Generally popular stories, on or off /co/, that also tend to be well reviewed by critics barring that last one. But /co/ loves that one.
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>>85534692

What there is not to understand?

He ended up going after the Joker even though Batman told him not to and got killed , wich is Batman's fault since he thought that he could just pick up a kid from the streets and make him a hero, clearly it doesn't work like that.
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>>85535130
but the entire reason he even started to look for his mother was because Batman suspended him from being Robin because he realized it wasn't a good idea
Jason died while looking for his mother and because he didn't listen to Batman's warnings, it has nothing to do with him being Robin or not
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>>85525428
Jason is suppose to be taller than Dick and Tim is suppose to be a manlet
Dick is 5'10
Jason is 6'0
Tim is 5'5
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>>85535130
Also the part where Jason turned into an antihero with aspirations of justice, but nothing of Batman's morals.

Imagine your son, going into the same business as you -- but doing it the "dirty way".
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>>85534627
No Duke brings a new perspective to Batman. Tim started out as Robin because he wanted to impress Batman. Duke became Robin because he wanted to do some good. Duke is the superior character.
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>>85535259
>duke
>superior to anyone other than harper

sorry but you're very wrong
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>>85535259
>Tim started out as Robin because he wanted to impress Batman
Tim started out as Robin because he knew that Batman needed a Robin, and Dick refused to come back, not to so sempai Batman would notice him.
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>>85535326
>implying Bluebird isn't GOAT bat-family member
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>>85534951
Yeah, a word of warning. If you read Cass' Batgirl run, you will come to hate someone you didn't before.

At least one, anyway.

And you'll be angry about what was done to a character you suddenly love. ANGRY.

Being a Cass fan is hard on the blood pressure.
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>>85535434
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>85525303
Bruce
Alfred
Damian
Terry
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>>85525303
All of the mostly

Dick the first Son

Jason the Fallen Son

Tim the wise Son

Damian the young

Barbs First Daught

Cassandra second daughter

Everyone but Batwoman and Stephanie is needed. I say that and I LOVED Stephanie as batgirl
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>>85535466

Tomasi's fault right?

I think that was the consensus. Because Beechen did push against it and was shot down by his editor, who pitched idea. And that editor was Tomasi.

And then they kept fucking giving her to him to fix the problem.
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>>85525344
Only correct answer.
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>>85525428
everyone there except Selina.
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Can I be part of the Batfamily?
My parents got shitposted when I was young, so I took on the alias of BatAnon to Batpost the Shitposters.
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>>85535540
Why fuck me when you could fap to Harper?
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>>85535466
Don't forget Didio!

None of them can be excused, they all bear the guilt for their actions.

Add whoever it was that wrote that Harper Row Mother shitfest in the nu52, too. I can't keep track of all the S-name dickheads writing bad Bat stories nowadays.
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>>85535646
Batman shitposts himself, that seat is taken
Someone please post the picture, you know the one
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Are there any books that focus on only the Robin's and/or Batgirls working together? Aside from Battle for The Cowl, looking for some more stuff along those lines.
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>>85535884
There's Batman and Robin:Eternal. The book was supposed to be a celebaration of 75 years of Robin but it ended up turning to how amazing Harper fucking Row is.
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>>85535992
Why the hell would you suggest that to anyone not specifying their masochistic urges?

Trolling may be a 4chan tradition, but this is going too far.
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>>85536032
He asked for a comic where only Robins/Batgirls worked together. That comic did that since Bruce had amnesia.

...God I liked the first few issues where it just Tim,Jason and Dick being badass and then it was bringing back the 90's with Cass and JPV. But they just fucking had to make Harper fucking Row Batman's dream sidekick.
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>>85525303

that's my wallpaper,so these minus Batwoman

I wish I could remove her from that pic
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>>85528991
No one cares about Duke or Harper.
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>>85529092
just if he die.
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>>85529092
Snyder pls.
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>>85535884
One of the "All-New Brave & The Bold" comics had all the Robins (Jason, Tim, Damian, Steph and Carrie Kelly) get summoned through time to help Nightwing revive Batman. It was called "Batman Dies at Dawn".
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>>85526413
This
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>>85529626
There was a Nightwing/Catwoman show pitched at some point. That one BTAS was supposedly a pilot
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>>85534692
He's such a shitty character that his book is always the worst selling Batfamily book
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>>85531788
Hope you like it, anon.
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>>85535884
Batman Gates of Gotham
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>>85525303
Batman
Alfred
Dick, grown up, reconciled with Bruce as the elder son
Jason as dead Robin, reminder of Bruce's failure
Babs, as Oracle overcoming her disability
Selina

Optional
Damian as a wildcard Robin
Helena as the "black sheep", the orphan turned vigilante that wasn't mentored by Batman, and pisses him (and Oracle) off by using lethal methods and occasionally banging his son
Leslie, as someone on the outside to call out Bruce on his shit
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>>85526217
>I now realise I want a holiday themed Batfamily comic.
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>>85540633
So good
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>>85525303
Obviously Dick and Alfred. Batgirl is just iconic enough to be essential. Jason because of the importance of his death, and Catwoman is borderline.

That's it
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>>85529626
I love Timm but that's worst ship
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>>85535130
>He ended up going after the Joker
No, he didn't. He went after his mother and she betrayed him to the joker.

Jason was called Batman's biggest failure because he failed to save him, not that Jason failed as Robin.
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>>85525303
>House of Wayne
Bruce
Alfred
Dick
Jason
Damian

>Essential "Batfamily"
Batman
Alfred
Nightwing
Red Hood
Batgirl
Red Robin
Robin

>Batfamily
Jim Gordon
Lucius Fox
Selina Kyle
Jean-Paul Valley
Cassandra Cain
Helena Bertinelli
Stephanie Brown
Kate Kane
Luke Fox
Julia Pennyworth
Duke Thomas
Harper Row (unfortunately)
Clay
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>>85525303
Bruce. Alfred. Gordon. Dick. Jason. Tim. Damian. Babs as Oracle. Cassandra as a retired Batgirl. Stephanie Brown as a failed Robin-turned-Batgirl. Huntress, depending on the version.
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>>85526237
He fucking married her on the original Earth-2, it's not just Hush and Injustice that has them pared up.
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>>85538148

It's pretty good.Thank you comrade
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Alfred
Nightwing
Red Hood
Damian
Duke
Azrael
Batwing
Batwoman
Flamebird
Oracle
Huntress (Bertinelli)
Black Bat
Spoiler
Bluebird
Julia Pennyworth

Tim can rot
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Bruce and Alfred.

Dick should be a spy full-time and out of Gotham.
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>>85525344
this
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>>85543708

>Includes Duke,Azrael,Flamebird(?),even fucking Harper

>Lefts Tim out

You wot?
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>>85525303
thomas and martha?
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>>85525303
-Batman
-Alfred
-All Robins (Dick, Jason, Tim and Damian)
-All Batgirls (Oracle, Black Bat, Steph Batgirl)
-Batwoman

I am speaking from a point of view, pre-flashpoint
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>>85525303
Bruce
Alfred
Dick
If Dick is Nightwing at the time, then Damian or Tim as Robin
Barbara
Kate
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