Suicide Squad estimated 69% drop

>>85431347
As it should, it was a really shitty film that was filled with tiny little pieces of what would have been a good film.

>>85431347

WB is not going to be worried as long as it isnt losing money. SS movie has already broke even by this point. They are probably gonna make few millions of this movie which is enough for WB to justify a sequel

>>85431468
It reportedly needs $700 million to break even due to the reshoots.

Are you the devil?

>>85431609
>le reportedly million to break even maymay
Fuck off

>>85431609
It reportedly needs that amount to truly satisfy producers, not to break even. Breaking even just means they covered their budget so the movie isn't technically a bomb, but that doesn't mean the suits would be happy with it. See: The amazing Spiderman 2

>>85431609
SS has no competition. It's going to be fine.

But it broke records on a Tuesday

>>85431609

Thats bullshit. You can look at the figures and clearly see it has broke even at the very least to this point

>>85431653

>I don't understand things anyone with even a basic familiarity with Hollywood knows

Hollywood accounting is not some sort of dank meme created by /tv/, it's something you start to understand with even a cursory reading into major film productions. No film studio on planet Earth has reported the "actual" budget for one of their major films in decades, they always lowball it just to give themselves a margin of error for public perception.

You might as well argue that the Hollywood dump months are a meme too.

>>85431347
Suicide Squad has nothing to threaten it so it's not going anywhere. Do you really think oversea gives a fuck about anything else that Hollywood is putting out? There's a reason why Superheroes movies make so much money.

I fucking hate this universe. WB keeps doubling down, acting like we're the problem

GUESS WHO'S BACK
BACK AGAIN

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>>85431824

>Suicide Squad has nothing to threaten it so it's not going anywhere

Ain't that the truth.

Just dump month my shit up, senpai.

>>85432093

>Pete's Dragon

wut? Kubo looks good

>>85431468
The studio ends up with roughly half of the total box office gross in their pocket, so it's made a little more than the declared production budget at this point. It probably needs more to cover marketing, considering how many ads there have been.

>>85432093
What? I don't see shit.

>>85432093

Kubo looks like potential kino to me and War Dogs reminds me of "Wolf of Wall Street" which I loved.

>>85432128
>>85432358

I'm sure Kubo will be awesome, but it's gonna make 40 bucks at the box office like every other Laika movie.

>>85431711
You know all studios crook their books, right?

oh no now it'll never get that $3.8 trillion it needs to cover it's marketing costs

>>85431347
>/biz/

>>85431711
>all the bo money go straight to WB's pocket


You 're not the smartest child in your family, are you?

>>85431681
>Sausage Party
>Pete's Dragon
>both fresh
>SS has no competition

>>85431468
>WB isn't going to worry that another one of their major DC movie is fairing poorly at the box office because of bad word of mouth

This is something WB should absolutely worry about. They've damaged the brand.

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>>85432873
Because having that fresh rating really helped flopbusters

>>85432920
Fembusters was pretty much DOA box office wise once the first trailer hit online, no matter what the reviews would be.

>>85432888
DAMAGED

>>85432873
>>Sausage Party
>>Pete's Dragon
Most teens and young adults are not going to see that shit, not to mention overseas. Fucking Sausage Party is going to be lucky if it even makes any money.

>>85432888
vash17?

>>85431609

It broke even.

What they meant is that 700 million would justify it and continued expansions of it.

Exec's don't want to "break even" they want to make back many times what they made on investment.

>>85432244

You also have to take into account that money made in other countries also gets gouged, because the distributors in those countries have to take a chunk.

China's one of the worst about it, sometimes taking as much as half of what a movie makes released over there.

>>85433152
It's roughly 30% for international, and 70% for domestic. However each of those decreases in points over time

>>85432873
>Pete's Dragon
the literally who of the month
>Sausage Party
Way too niche to cause concern

>>85433307

>the literally who of the month

>not Ben-Hur

>>85432989
Sausage Party is going to have to flop as hard as Gili to not make money, it had a production budget of only $19 million.

It's amazing to me how desperate people are on this board to see this movie fail in ANY aspect.

*Suicide Squad receives no Oscar nominations*

-"HAHAHA! DC Cucks BTFO. Reboot when? Snyder is cancer. Katana? Literally who? HAHAHA! DCEU is dead."

It's so pathetic and embarrassing. I used to like this board. It just sucks now. I mean, look at OP's picture. That's some legendary tier cringe right there. I honestly feel sorry for whoever took the time to make that. It doesn't even have the correct DC logo.

>>85433388
Ben Hur is going to be surprisingly average with a fresh rating unlike SS.

>>85433152
>China's one of the worst about it, sometimes taking as much as half of what a movie makes released over there.
Much, much higher.
>>85433245
>It's roughly 30% for international, and 70% for domestic. However each of those decreases in points over time
Your numbers are still off. 50% domestic, 25 to 35% many bigger international countries which then gets eaten up in fees. Foreign countries go out of their way to make sure they put so many fees on the movie money being sent back so that they earn more for the home country than the studio does.

Disney currently has one of the highest percentage rate deals in place with international theaters as of two years ago.

>>85433501
>hating on mosaics
>hating on best logo
Piss off

>>85431847
IKTF, breh. I remember trying to reassure worried anons before BvS was released that Shazam was going to be set in the DCEU. When I saw it was double triple confirmed it would be this week, it just made me feel sad.

>>85432920
>What is an exception to the rule, Alex.

>>85433691
It is, but it isn't.

>>85432920
Flopbusters had negative ratings from actual critics, not bloggers.

>>85433534
>Your numbers are still off. 50% domestic

50% domestic is a thumb rule that should be applied only after the movie has stopped screeniing domestically and then applied to the overall domestic box office earned by then

Right now the only thing guaranteed from domestic box office going right into WB's pocket is 95% of opening weekend which is a standard Hollywood deal. Everything else is just guess work

So we can only assume that at worst Suicide Squad has broken even at this point if we just consider 50% of WW box office. If we do 50% of domestic at this point it will give an incorrect estimate since 50% of domestic leaves a good chunk of the opening weekend right now which studios like WB generally get most off

>>85433691
The DCEU brand is toxic. A Captain Marvel movie would only work if it was separate.

Maybe just have Billy read Superman comics.

>>85432888

WB is only worried about the current Quarters figures, it will worry about the brand only when it has run down the ground leading to losses, i.e when its too late

>>85433501
>It's amazing to me how desperate people are on this board to see this movie fail in ANY aspect.
It's amazing to me how desperate someone defending this movie, and most likely the DCEU as a whole would try so hard to dismiss the literal metric for "Repeat business is in the company of that of historically bad turds because the poor rubes who were hyped to see his movie aren't going back to see it again or telling others to go and see it once because after seeing it, they agree with 'paid off' critics that it sucks ass."

>>85433534
90% in the first week, decreases by about 5-10 each week. I remember BvS had something insane like 95%+ on the first week

>>85433388
Why the fuck are they remaking Ben-Hur.

I saw Suicide Squad tonight
my favorite part was when Batman used a little girl as a human shield

>>85431347
Marvel fanboys start your frapping.

>>85433893
Not a bad idea.
Hell, make it the mid-credits scene since WB has about faced and might be doing that now, and just have Billy watching the end of MoS before turning it off and saying:
>What a crappy superhero.

>>85433806
Real critics are a dying breed m8, bloggers have taken over and that's the way of the future.

>>85434087
The girl stepped in front of him. Floyd is Deadshot. You think he's going to accidentally shoot his own daughter? Or do you think he would shoot her on purpose?

>>85434087
Shitposting is a art.

>>85434192
Not him, but You're right. Floyd is Deadshot, and even in the comics, his daughter is what matters most to him. He wouldn't hit her, but I'd bet he would even risk the possibility that he might. Bruce would probably know that. Doesn't make his doing it honorable, but it'd be something a scummier Batman would resort to.

>>85434297
Batman could have literally dive bombed Deadshot if he had wanted to and then curbsromped his ass. Instead he merely appears behind Deadshot and tells him to surrender for his kid's sake.

>>85434270
*an art

>>85434087
Mine too

>>85432128
>>85432358
>Laika movie
>Doing well in the Box Office

Pick only one

>>85434270
but he was just standing there doing nothing for like a minute while deadshot talked to his daughter
it was quite silly

>>85434447
>hurr come quietly so I can throw your ass in jail and take you away from your daughter
What did he think was gonna happen?

>>85434799
Gotcha bitch

>>85435369
Yeah he should've bashed Deadshot's brains in while his daughter stood there looking on. After that he should let out a maniacal laugh, smack Floyd's daughter and tell her to get a pole and practice for her future career.

>>85433894
That's just not true. WB was clearly intending the DCEU to be an ongoing money-maker that would sustain the studio for years to come like the MCU does for Disney.

That's the problem with these under-performing movies. Not only do they fall short in the present, they harm the future of the franchise. WB is very much looking into the future, and that future isn't looking good.

>>85434059
Yet another in the long line of baffling remakes.

Who the fuck was asking for the Robocop remake from a few years ago?

>>85434091
Please stop this company wars shit.

I love both Marvel and DC characters. The DCEU fucking up so badly is sad BECAUSE I want to see good DC movies. I want great Batman and Superman movies, I want great JLA movies, etc.

But the DCEU is just irrevocably poisoned at this point. It needs to burn to the ground so that someday something better can come.

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>Marvel btfo

>>85435736
What's next for FOX anyway?

>>85435686
RoboCop remake could've been good.

>>85435763
Wolverine 3 next year, then Deadpool 2 and New Mutants (and the Legion show, guess that counts).

I don't think they've got anything planned for the X-Men series proper yet. And Gambit won't happen, I would bet money on it.

>>85435621
I think you might be doing that thing where instead of refuting my point, you're making it sound like I'm saying some zany hyperbolic thing instead

>>85431609
>http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/093015/how-exactly-do-movies-make-money.asp
>Major studios and indie filmmakers alike now spend much of their days looking for new sources ofrevenue, because ticket sales are no longer the be-all and end-all for films.
>The film industry is in flux, and ticket sales alone don't drive revenue. There’s merchandising, VOD sales, foreign sales and a plethora of otherdistribution channelsthat can help filmmakers, producers and studios turn a profit.


I wonder how many times this article will be reposted before retards finally stop spouting the "muh twice budget at the box office" meme.?

>>85432869

50% of WW is a decent rule of thumb and that indicates SS moviehas broke even by this point

>>85433482
That can't be right, that's cheap as fuck for how good the animation looks.

>>85431347
Is the 79% estimated drop Friday to friday?
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=dc2016.htm

>>85435911
They're already in pre-production for the next X-men movie, its going to be set in 1993.

>>85432421


I already did the domestic calculation though

>Production Budget: $175 million

>Domestic Opening Weekend: $133,682,248

>First week Box office: $45,422,480

(The remaining box office from total box office minus the opening weekend will give you the first weeks BO)


95% of Opening Weekend : $120,314,023
+
80% of First week : $36,337,984

=WB pocketed this money from Domestic Box office earnings as of now : $156,652,007


calculated 95% of Domestic Opening weekend (standard hollywood studio deal) PLUS 80% off of remaining Domestic box office (which is conservative considering the remaining box office is of first week BO and the studios collect as much as 85% from theaters. Similarly Week 3 and 4 will slide WB's share down up to 50% from box office)

This $156,652,007 is the Gross Revenue WB will declare publicly even to IRS since this figures cant be hidden or manipulated.

Now the cooking of the books starts after all the Gross Box office WB pockets and starts adding costs. the more costs it can add the lesser its net profit will be. The lesser the net profit the lower the total amount of tax WB has to pay

This is where hollywood accounting comes in where they add all sorts of bullshit costs making the net profit go to zero or heck even turn it into a net loss. This means they dont have to pay any tax on it since the books show they did not earn anything when in reality they just made up costs out of thin air

This is how Star Wars IV screwed over many of the cast members who got a backdoor deal with net profits from the film

>>85436205
>its going to be set in 1993.
Wow it's fucking nothing.

>>85431468
>>85431662
>>85433128

Suicide Squad the film has not broken even yet, but it should get there. Box office figures are ticket price, and the studio gets half of that. At $175 million to produce and probably another $100~150 to market, Suicide Squad will need to sell at least $550 million. $700 million is definitely a high-end estimate, but not outside of reason.

Even if the film itself doesn't technically break even, strong merchandising and home video may still justify a sequel.

>>85433501

I know that feeling senpai, I wish the film flopped like hell but its mediocre in all aspects just like all other DC moveis since Man of Steel

>>85435800
No, it really couldn't, and it was completely unnecessary.

RoboCop is such a product of its time that it's pointless to try and remake it. It also said what it wanted to say perfectly. What is added by doing it again?

You should only do a remake if the original was lacking, or if you really think you have something new to bring to the table. The original RoboCop wasn't lacking anything, the remake didn't bring anything new or good enough to justify itself.

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Know what's better than suicide? fooooooooooood!

>>85436123
That's the figure box office mojo is listing.

All this number crunching is bullshit.

>Pacific Rim had a budget of $190 million.
>Made only $411 at the box office ($100m of that was domestic gross).
>They still green-lit a sequel.

>>85436602
That sequel has been "green-lit" for years, wonder why?

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>>85436445

>>85436626
Well, its currently in pre-production, they have started casting (John Boyega will play Idris Elbas son) and plan to start shooting this year... its gonna happen senpai.

>>85435415
It went entirely according to plan, Floyd gave himself up.

>>85436602
I loved paific rim.

Yet, the latest new is that PR2 would be delayed indefinitely. Not cancelled, just delayed forever and ever more.

So glad I dropped all capeshit comics and movies altogether, this Nufanbase obsessed with console wars and which movie universe makes more money makes me sick and made me lose all the love and enthusiasms I had for Super Heroes.

Fuck Marvel, fuck DC and fuck their fan-base.

>>85436602
Greenlighting a sequel doesn't mean shit. Sequels are greenlit all the time that don't get made. Usually it's just a way for the studio to save face.

>>85435651
>That's just not true. WB was clearly intending the DCEU to be an ongoing money-maker that would sustain the studio for years to come

Yeah but it needs to have someone with a proper vision to carry it through. WB doesnt have Fiege kinda guy that Marvel has as of now

>>85433983
We're not the ones pounding essays on keyboards about why Margot Robbie is an internalized misogynist for wearing spangled short shorts with great salt & vinegar because people wanted to see a movie despite all the critics bashing.

http://www.avclub.com/article/weekend-box-office-suicide-hotline-bling-240763

They're calling people Chads for watching a comic book movie that isn't Marvel. Fucking Chads! Of all things!

>>85436733
>its gonna happen senpai
Right. It's due to come out the same day as Tron 3 and Dredd 2 I heard.

>>85436001
It's after you break even that you start to make a profit, doofus.

>>85436955

when did I say other wise faget

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>>85436123
Saw the movie. Only the main characters look great and move well, incidental characters like the pizza look as good Clippy from Windows 98

>>85436841
PacRim 2 was actually picked up by another studio, because WB wouldnt do the sequel.

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>>85436927
>The film did plummet 40 percent from Friday night—when all the biggest superhero fans presumably saw it, took selfies in front of the cardboard cutout in the lobby, and raved to the guy in the polo shirt holding the iPad how great it was afterwards—to Saturday, and then saw another 20 percent drop from Saturday to Sunday. So maybe critics’ vitriol will be proven right in the end.

>tfw I'm a DChad
Who a /DChad/ here?

>>85436927
"Suicide Squad" is chadcore, though

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>>85436927
>CinemaScore from viewers overall and an A- from female viewers, confusing the hell out of publications (like The A.V. Club) that spent the last week furiously pounding out essays about how gross it is that Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn spends most of the movie in spangled short-shorts and a jacket that says “Property of the Joker” on the back

>failing to understand the character
strike one!
>assuming that people will take your opinion as gospel
strike two!
>getting mad when people like things you don't like
strike three! get the fuck out of here!

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>>85431347
Shame that would likely keep it from getting in the top 20 films in gross this year if that's the case

>>85436927
Well considering that Snyder is basically the epitome of the insecure chad, it kinda fits.

I don't understand why DC fans are happy that this movie is doing good in the BO.

Shouldn't they be concerned that WB has no incentive in making better movies?

>>85433849
>Right now the only thing guaranteed from domestic box office going right into WB's pocket is 95% of opening weekend which is a standard Hollywood deal.
Everyone, laugh at this faggot.

>>85436337
>strong merchandising
Is there merchandise for this movie?

>>85435982
Is this the new DCcuck security blanket?

>>85437533
>I don't understand why DC fans are happy that this movie is doing good in the BO.
Because it's an entertaining and well-made film.

>>85438060
But it's not.

Only people who say it's good are biased DC shills.

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>>85438128
lol

>>85438167
>26% percent

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>>85437533
They try rationalize why it should be considered good rather than focusing on the flaws

It's why you see so many posts like
>It's a perfect SS adaptation so you'll only appreciate it if you know the comic well
>Normies couldn't tell what was going on only because they don't know comics as much as me, the editing complains are a meme
>It triggered SJWs and nu-males so it doesn't have any *real* problem if you're not one of those
>Well, it's still better than anything [other company] made
>It's so dark and brave for being about actual villains, that must be why the pussified critics didn't like it
>You only don't like this Joker only because of Nolan's brainwashing, he's actually supposed to be an unfunny gangster

I really, really wonder what would happen if stuff like Affleck's Daredevil, or Catwoman or Green Lantern came out today. Did fanboys of the time try to justify such films as hard as people defend the latest shortcomings?

>as long as a film breaks even then everything is okay

Where does this line of thinking come from? If a product only makes you a tiny amount of money then it was a waste of time and resources that could've gone to something else.

>>85438190
>Affleck's Daredevil, or Catwoman or Green Lantern came out today.

affleck and catwomen are pre social media so no, gl essentially did come out today, identical media landscape.

>>85434087
Was Batman seriously going to get killed by deadshot if she didn't stand in

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>>85438189
>RT
lol

>>85438190
>>It's a perfect SS adaptation so you'll only appreciate it if you know the comic well
This fucks me up quite a bit. It's really not, and the Ostrander SS run is one of my favourite comics.

>>85438417
Well, it's a better metric than dc shill opinions.

>>85438190
before social media
Also you have to understand that those films came out before Marvel did 13 films and 3 TV series in a decade with 5 more films and 3 more TV series lined up for the next five years.

>>85438189
>the same site that gives a remake of Roots 100% and Cis-Busters glowing praise
okay, keep being a good cuck.

>>85438769
Less than a Decade anon...
Iron-man was 2008 we have another 2 years so in a decade they will have made at least 15 films and have had 4/5 TV series made

And that's not counting the money they make off Fox's Mutant stuff.

>>85438819
That's my point.
How do you fuck up so Bad that RT can't even grade you well?

>>85438190
some of that is true though, especially the ostrander thing

>>85438854
The mouse is paying people off

>>85439172
[citation needed]

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>>85438769
>>85438233
Well, yeah, that's what i meant when i said "i wonder what would happen if they came out today"

The MCU's success, the backlash against professional criticism, the accusations of company-bias, SJWs... this is the perfect storm that's currently creating so many contrarians. Because that's what i was thinking, it's not like WB suddenly became incompetent, they (and occasionally the other companies aswell, of course) are just repeating the same old mistakes. Suicide Squad, and to some extent BvS, are really just today's Daredevils, Catwomen and Ghost Riders, unfocused, maybe messy, movies that were simply made because out-of-touch producers are trying to bank on trends and propeties they just happen to have on their hands

I mean, it's not like gents of the likes of John Peters suddenly disappeared. Heck, just recently we've been observing how hilariously confused producers like Amy Pascal are with TASM. But nope, there's always that group that will defend the most recent movie to the death whatever, lest they wouldn't feel as above of the masses as they think they are. After, it couldn't be tha the people behind the movie failed, right? No, it must be everyone else that really really just doesn't get it. And so here we are, Ledger's Joker is suddenly the worst Joker ever for the sake of making Leto shine more in comparison, and Raimi's Spiderman is outdated, cringey and not like the comics at all for the sake of defending Giraffe-men and the Sinister backstory-less Spinoffs

>>85432093
Wait, they're remaking Ben-Hur?

What the fuck?

>>85439213
>i wonder what would happen if they came out today

they would get rightfully shit on, although i can maybe see GL having some kind of defence force.

The Snyder films and SS arent bad though and clearly have had love put into them, if anyone is to blame its whoever forces the films to be realtered to be more family friendly or whatever and turning good or decent films into crap

>>85439204
I was joking.
But it does look odd that BvS scored lower than Man of Steel.
I enjoyed BvS quite a bit more, but I hardly ever share the same opinion as the "experts" so fuck me.

>>85438233
GL did have an annoying defense force when it came out. It died away once the movie came out on DVD though.

>>85439538
did it?
i defend soem of the recent films a fair bit but i find it hard to imagine anyone could like GL past it using a bunch of minor characters briefly.

>>85439609
>>85439538
It's ok. I'll watch it a thousand times before I ever watch Thor again.

>>85438355
No. Batman would have dodged or blocked the bullet then broke 99% of Deadshot's bones. She saved Deadshot from Batman.

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>>85438167
>>85438417
>has no rebuttal and just posts Harley

Way to prove his point, dumbass.

>>85439654
Like clockwork

>>85439654
Christ. How about watching an actual good movie or even reading some comics instead?

>>85439703
It's true. At least theres pretty shit to look at in green lantern.

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>>85431681
>SS has no competition. It's going to be fine.
>>85431824
>Suicide Squad has nothing to threaten it
>>85432920
>>85433307
>>Sausage Party
>Way too niche to cause concern

"Box Office: ‘Sausage Party’ Cooks Past ‘Suicide Squad’ on Friday, Eyes $34 Million"

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/box-office-sausage-party-suicide-squad-petes-dragon-florence-foster-jenkins-1201837045/

>>85440085
People thought I was crazy when I said Sausage Party could be number 1 this weekend, looks like they were wrong.

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>>85440304
>"Haters gonna hate, Lanterns gonna shine"
Schumacher's gonna ... no, wait.

>>85436602
>They still green-lit a sequel.
You know Green Lantern, ASM and F4stic all had "green-lit sequels" as well right?

>>85438190
>It's a perfect SS adaptation
There is no way anyone would think that.

>>85438190
There's also the weird flip-flopping between "Normies just didn't get it, it was for comic fans" and "well don't you see these numbers? Normies totally love it".

Like holy shit, pick one side.

>>85440525
Where have you been the last week. It's being said costantly, usually with a mention of Ostrander's review of the movie where he says he loved it and implies critics where biased against it from the get-go "for not being TDK". If the creator loved it, then it must be perfect, no?

>>85439343
>But it does look odd that BvS scored lower than Man of Steel.
BvS is absolutely worse than MoS

>>85440304
It sounds like you just made that up

>>85440624
>It sounds like you just made that up
Not that guy but he's right.

Also, "Next one will be the 'real' GL movie"

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>>85431347

Delete this fucking thread.

>>85440085
>>85440343
Not me. There's a reason why Family Guy has gone on for so long. Normies.

>>85440525
Console war faggots that don't read comics have been saying that since it came out on here.

>>85436337
You're an idiot. Box office mojo reports its made 383,954,728 worldwide in gross. Gross means AFTER the theaters have taken their cut. It only had a budget of 175 million, and you double that to account for marketing (so a grand total of 350 mil) and yes, it is already making profit you fucking bitch pleb.

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>Plan seeing movie another time with a buddy
>Don't really want to but, you know, friendship and all
>Go to reserve tickets for biggest theater in the city for late afternoon showing. It's only a week after so when movies are hype, seats will be filled up
>See pic related (blue is available seats)

This is not a good sign for the weekend

>>85440565
>Like holy shit, pick one side.
But, anon, that's exactly what they're doing: whichever side they think makes them look good at any given moment is the side they're on!

Thus: "Top box-office! Broke GOTG's numbers! MARBLE ON SUICIDE WATCH!" is followed the very next week with "Hurr derr popularity != quality!!" and "It's art! 3Deep5U!"

If people like it it validates them; if people DON'T like it it still validates them (because: "normies!").

Reminds me of my retired factory worker uncle saying Trump was a "Blue Collar Billionaire" because he's so self identified as a Republican at this point that he'll literally justify *ANYTHING* if he thinks it makes his "team" look better.

>>85431847
Well they're right.

>>85440525
Perfect? No. Good adaptation? Sure, unless you're one of those autistic faggots who think having Joker and Harley in the movie somehow ruins SS.

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>>85440755
>Gross means AFTER the theaters have taken their cut

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>>85440839
>unless you're one of those autistic faggots who think having Joker and Harley in the movie somehow ruins SS.
No, Joke and Harley's actual relationship not being in the movie even though they filmed it (was one of the things that) ruined SS

>>85440839
I'm sure most will agree. But there's this minority of faggots that specifically call it "the most faithful capeshit adaptation", i'm guessing for the sake of implying that [other company] isn't comics-friendly enough

>>85440779
Who the fuck picked a seat in the third row way off to the side?

>>85440604
>BvS is absolutely worse than MoS
Very much so. I didn't *like* MoS; but other than the really idiotic bit where 'Pa walks out into the twister to die because reasons' I don't remember having major issues on any technical levels (it was reasonably well directed and edited I just didn't care for the tone or story). BvS on the other hand was almost as big a clusterfuck as SS where shit just happened for no reason, or shit started to happen and jumped to other shit happening and it was obvious that something had been cut, skipped, or scrambled in the editing room. SS dialed this up to 11 with all the pointless and distracting pop songs one after the other and the double introductions and on and on and on.

At this point I'm just not even going to try to watch anything from DCEU in the theater: imma wait on the Damage Controlled Extended Ultra DVD release where they fix all this bullshit in post.

>>85440624
>It sounds like you just made that up
http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/64408652/#64427685

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>>85440755
>gross. Gross means AFTER the theaters have taken their cut
No. No, it does not.
http://www.investorwords.com/article/gross-vs-net.html

>>85440594
Ostrander's review was used primarily to deter the claim that the movie somehow got the characters completely wrong because Deadshot was black and not 100% of the time wearing a mask and Waller capped some low level agents to cover her ass.

>>85440839
>Good adaptation? Sure
>no character gets focused on except for Deadshot and Harley
>movie Deadshoot is nothing like comics Deadshoty
>Harley has no reason to be there according to movie Waller's reasoning for having metahumans for a possible war
>Waller is cause of the Squad's problem
>the entire mission was just to rescue Waller and they had no plan for defeating the Enchantress
>Squad mainly ends up being useless as military bombs are are kill Enchantress and Incubus
>none of the characters have any interaction or banter with each other outside of the bar scene
>Flash's awful cameo
>Bruce Wayne getting bribed by Amanda Waller

Naw it sucks

>>85437980
The Hot Topic bullshit

>>85439538
The defense force came back briefly when Tarantino had it in his top ten of the year as I recall. It died again about a week after though.

>>85441188
>outside of the bar scene
The best part of which was in the trailer but cut from the theatrical release (in a cut MADE BY THE COMPANY THAT CUT THE TRAILER!)

JUST!

>>85441163
>because Deadshot was black and not 100% of the time wearing a mask
That and, you know, being played by Will Smith who plays the same exact character in every single action comedy he's ever done.

>>85441432
>Will Smith who plays the same exact character
On the one hand, this is true. On the other hand Agent J: Assassin for Hire was one of the best bits in the movie.

>>85441403
It wasn't in the top ten. It was in the "others considered" list but otherwise this is correct. Lots of shitposting on /tv/ over it.

Good. Fuck that movie. Hope the producers feel the sting of failure and learn from the experience. Don't make a sequel.

>>85431386
Nah, it was pretty good.

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>>85431609
Expert meme accountant here.

They actually need 700 GORRILION dollars

>>85432873
>Pete's Dragon

wow a remake of an awful movie nobody cared about

>>85442029
>a remake of an awful movie nobody cared about
I actually prefer that to the much more common: remake of a classic that no one asked for and that ads nothing to the original which was greenlite because the nostalgiaFags will guarantee good returns.

>>85441981
Hoo boy this could be interesting. Since they're both estimates, it could still go either way.

>>85440965
>the most faithful capeshit adaptation
it kind of is in retrospect, got the characters all very accurate with a few small changes and the tone was very fitting to the Ostrander series.

The MCU stuff, love it or hate it, hasnt really had comic accurate characters since phase 1, and even in phase one its fairly bare for accuracy as well.

>>85441717
At this point you people are operating in your own reality or some shit. The desperation is sad.

>>85441981

>suicide squad does poorly with critics
>"WHATEVER REVIEWERS ARE JUST BIASED NORMIES WILL LOVE IT
>movie gets beat by sausage party
>"THOSE FUCKING NORMIES JUST DONT UNDERSTAND THE MOVIE ITS TOO DEEP FOR THEM"

>>85440973
Reserved seating won't let you take a single seat in the middle of the row. If you aren't buying a group of seats you either have to buy a seat next to the aisle or next to an occupied seat.

>>85442230
>I'm retarded

Yes you are

>>85441188
>no character gets focused on except for Deadshot and Harley
Waller, Flagg, Enchantress

>movie Deadshoot is nothing like comics Deadshoty
other than the daughter thing he was fairly accurate
>Harley has no reason to be there according to movie Waller's reasoning for having metahumans for a possible war
Harley is metahuman, Katana, Deadshot, Boomer, Flagg, SLipknot and all the soldeirs arent, they chosen as they were the best they had
>Waller is cause of the Squad's problem
and?
>the entire mission was just to rescue Waller and they had no plan for defeating the Enchantress
Again and?
>Squad mainly ends up being useless as military bombs are are kill Enchantress and Incubus
Only Incubus, did you watch the film?
>none of the characters have any interaction or banter with each other outside of the bar scene
Ill give you that, fucking editing sucked
>Flash's awful cameo
Why was it awful?
>Bruce Wayne getting bribed by Amanda Waller
why was that bad?

There are problems in the film but you failed to address them

>>85442369
Because that anon is just reading off of what other people posts and has no real opinion of it's own. That's what happens when one lacks self awareness

>>85442369
>Harley is metahuman
Is she metahuman in the movie?

>>85431347
That's what happens when you bring in trailer editors to edit the entire movie because of audience testing.

>>85443442
it seems so yes

>>85431347
Just went to see the movie yesterday night and its actually good. I just wish Killer Croc had more scenes and dialogue, and taller too.

>>85441422
Which part are you talking about?

>>85442369
>Waller, Flagg, Enchantress
They get no focus. Flagg and Enchantress' relationship was completely skipped over and yet they want us to care in the third act. Waller is absent for 70% of the movie.

>other than the daughter thing he was fairly accurate
A Deadshot who only kills criminals? No.
Will Smith is just being Mike Lowery from the Bad Boys movies.

>Harley is metahuman
She a regular person that got bleached by chemicals.

> Katana, Deadshot, Boomer, Flagg, SLipknot and all the soldeirs arent
It could at least be said that those characters have special skills that could come to use (but weren't used because...) except for Flag who is just there because of Enchantress being his girlfriend
>and?
It's uncharacteristic and stupid. Any government official would see that her concept isn't secure because she couldn't control the most powerful Squad member and wouldn't fund another task force x mission.

>Only Incubus, did you watch the film?
Oh your right, Flag just stabs her heart, now the Squad is even more useless.

>Why was it awful?
He's there for three seconds and didn't leave an impression.

>why was that bad?
Because Batman would never allow himself to get bribed, especially by someone apart of a program he wants to shut down anyway. And he already has information from Lex's surveillance videos and documents, he doesn't need Waller.

>>85442460
More like everyone with taste realizes these are problems with the film and are stating them.

>>85443840
>They get no focus. Flagg and Enchantress' relationship was completely skipped over
Yes they do and no it doesnt.

>A Deadshot who only kills criminals? No.
He only doesn't kill women and children and i said fairly.

>She a regular person that got bleached by chemicals.
That got highly advanced acrobatics skills from poison ivy

>It could at least be said that those characters have special skills that could come to use (but weren't used because...)
Deadshot shot, boomer threw and hacked, katana slashed and slipknot used his ropes to escape

>It's uncharacteristic and stupid. Any government official would see that her concept isn't secure because she couldn't control the most powerful Squad member and wouldn't fund another task force x mission.
Which is why she bribed Batman to give her protection and secure her job.

>Oh your right, Flag just stabs her heart, now the Squad is even more useless.
They solved the problem, why is that useless. Fuck he doesnt even stab the heart you didn't see the film did you.

>He's there for three seconds and didn't leave an impression.
Thats what a cameo is, regardless most would disagree

>Because Batman would never allow himself to get bribed, especially by someone apart of a program he wants to shut down anyway. And he already has information from Lex's surveillance videos and documents, he doesn't need Waller.
"muh batman" oh dear how pathetic

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>>85443351
>People getting excited for Wonder Woman

>>85444135
>Yes they do and no it doesnt.
There are scenes with regular June Moon and Flag that were in the trailers are not in the movie. So how can you say that.

>He only doesn't kill women and children and i said fairly.
During the bar scene he flat out said he doesn't kill women and children to El Diablo when he suggested that he did. No, it's not a fair adaptation, it's completely wrong (even his eye piece is on the wrong side)

>That got highly advanced acrobatics skills from poison ivy
She never got acrobatic skills from Poison Ivy. And even if she did, that wouldn't her a metahuman.

>Deadshot shot, boomer threw and hacked, katana slashed and slipknot used his ropes to escape
Yeah and none of those things helped on the mission except Deadshot shooting the bomb.

>Which is why she bribed Batman to give her protection and secure her job.
Batman wants to shut down task force x so I don't know how far in your ass you had to dig for that excuse.

>They solved the problem, why is that useless.
They didn't solve any problem, a bomb and Flag stabbing the witch heart did.

>Thats what a cameo is, regardless most would disagree
No one cares that he showed up, people are more interested in the mid credits scene despite being redundant after seeing the Justice League footage.

>"muh batman" oh dear how pathetic
This is your best response? Why does Batman need Waller's information on the rest of the Justice League when he already has it?

>>85442029

Just got back from taking the kids to see it. It was actually pretty cute. Kids loved it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/08/13/friday-box-office-suicide-squad-plunges-79-holding-no-better-than-batman-v-superman/#2958c6f66645

Jesus Christ. -79%?

>>85444256
Someone do preemptive Wonder Woman and Justice League bingo boards.

Wish we had Man of Steel bingo when it was out.

>>85445043
For Friday, yeah. That includes totals from any Thursday showings last week. The actual weekend drop might be lower but still high, I think last I saw it was potentially 69%.

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>>85445012
>kids love trash
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES.

>>85444777
>There are scenes with regular June Moon and Flag that were in the trailers are not in the movie. So how can you say that
Because they were given focus regardless

>it's completely wrong
No and slightly off point but you could say that about deadsot when ostrander started writing him

>She never got acrobatic skills from Poison Ivy. And even if she did, that wouldn't her a metahuman.
The fuck? Yes she did, and yes it does.

>Yeah and none of those things helped on the mission except Deadshot shooting the bomb.
Literally all of it did bar slipknot.

>Batman wants to shut down task force x so I don't know how far in your ass you had to dig for that excuse.
???
She says it in the fucking film

>They didn't solve any problem, a bomb and Flag stabbing the witch heart did.
So they solved the problem
>Croc helps place bomb
>Diablo distracts and takes down inucbus
>Entire squad fights enchantress
>Harley stabs her
>Deadshot blows up death machine
>Flagg crushes heart

>No one cares that he showed up, people are more interested in the mid credits scene despite being redundant after seeing the Justice League footage.
"I dont care he showed up, i was more interested in the end credits segment."

>This is your best response? Why does Batman need Waller's information on the rest of the Justice League when he already has it?
As opposed to the shit you been coming up with? Besides why would he turn down extra information

>>85440461
>Fan poster
Cara is some VS pic probably

Are we being invaded by shills? I saw it yesterday and it was by no means a good movie. It had a handful of good parts, but that's all overshadowed by the bad editing and lack luster story. I'm not sure how people are able to defend this movie so vehemently. I haven't seen denial this bad since opening day of Phantom Menace

>>85445426

I'm sorry you've lost your sense of childhood joy and wonder.

I hope you feel better later.

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>>85431347
>69

>>85446353

This is why it's dropping fast. Only hardcore DC fans (and people who wanted to see Margo Robbie all slutted up) went to see it. Regular shmoes have zero interest and word of mouth is awful.

The movie has no legs.

>>85446353
I completely agree. DCfags are turning into one of the worst fanbases on the planet.

>>85445493
>Because they were given focus regardless
Do you even know how they met? Why they like each other? We don't know because the movie skips over it.

>No and slightly off point but you could say that about deadsot when ostrander started writing him
It's completely off point. You haven't read the Ostrander run or even the New 52 SS comics. Deadshot doesn't give a shit about anything other than his daughter and kills anyone given the price or level of hatred.

>The fuck? Yes she did, and yes it does.
No, it's something you grabbed out of your ass. Unless you have proof which you most likely don't.

That's like calling Batman a metahuman because he's a martial arts master.

>Literally all of it did bar slipknot
Like what? They were able to kill some of those eyeball things but then again so did the soldiers and Waller.

>She says it in the fucking film
And Batman is going to shut down task force x like he said. Exposing her is the only way to do that.

>So they solved the problem
At best they helped distract Enchantress (which is stupid because she can read minds) and Incubus while bombs stopped them. They're not needed.

>"I dont care he showed up, i was more interested in the end credits segment."
The Flash segment hasn't even been leaked yet while the mid credits scene was out the day the movie premiered.

>As opposed to the shit you been coming up with?
The stuff you've been ignoring?

> Besides why would he turn down extra information
There's nothing extra to know, he already has their names and locations, and showcase of their powers. Needing Waller makes no sense and makes Batman look incompetent.

Stop defending this trash movie.

>>85446353
Because being a DC fan in 2016 is committing yourself to a life of endless suffering. Defending Suicide Squad is a form of Stockholm Syndrome.

Is there any hope?

>>85446426
Civil War dropped 74% in it's second week. And still went on to make 300 mil. more. By monday they will announce it's oversea money and it will probably be pass 500 mil, by now.

>>85446931
Makes me so mad. Dammit I want to be happy. I don't want Transformers Part 2 for my DC Universe.

>>85447119
Geoff Johns now in control I hope he can assemble a team to get everything on a level field that will keep Warner Bros from meddling. Man studied under Donner so I've got to hope he knows where to take things.

Not to remake Donner style but to understand what people need to see in these Heroes.

Lucky it wasn't Dan Didio or we'd be super fucked.

>>85439213
>Because that's what i was thinking, it's not like WB suddenly became incompetent
Not suddenly, they've been incompetent post HP

>>85446856
But that's just it. I'm a DCfag but I still have the wherewithal to recognize a bad movie when I see one. It breaks my heart these movies are turning out to be awful

>>85447608
Yea their last money makers dried up and now they are in a panic trying to get something rolling with Billions incoming again.

Oh please do a movie of the Cursed Child. That play is such a shitshow that it would be glorious.

>>85447745
It's just stupid decision after stupid decision. They tried to make the DC films their big tentpole franchise.

Then gave it to fucking Zack Snyder and let him make a divisive movie, clearly not aimed at the general populace. Then were surprised why it didn't break all records.

Meanwhile, Disney makes Star Wars their new tentpole by remaking the original movie and then make a fucking killing that allows them to fuck around with other movies.

You either keep this shit basic and generic as fuck, aimed at just about everyone, and make the money you expect it to make, or you make an steaming piece of shit, but only expect it to barely cover it's ass at the box office

>>85447737
>calls himself a faggot
You're probably just a shitposting troll

>>85431918
Good scene

>>85447975
Yeah but Force Awakens was fucking garbage.

>>85436445

I feel like I just stared into the abyss. I'm not even sure what to feel.

It's like I'm on this border between amusement, disgust, and complete confusion.

>>85438190

Actually, all the normies love this.

All the complaints I've heard are from comic fans, and that it's not the squad they wanted.

>>85440755

>Gross means AFTER the theaters have taken their cut.

No, it doesn't. This isn't my opinion, either. This is you being in actual error.

Well, it will make a profit when all is said and done, so it can be called a success, though it's not particularly good.

I'm still disappointed in the movie as a whole. Is a good DC movie so much to ask?

>>85439255
My cinema keeps showing the trailer and an edited one for cinema publicity too. In every single movie for already 2 months. I'm so fucking tired of it I just wish the movie lasts one week so they get rid of that shit.

>>85433128
>What they meant is that 700 million would justify it and continued expansions of it.

Well thank goodness it will never reach that.

>>85449214

I think it's a mixed reception from a normal audience - quite a few people I know went to see it, but the reaction was pretty tepid. Mostly complaining about how the movie jumped around too much. I suppose it depends what age group you're looking at though - my guess is that tweens and younger teenagers are eating it up.

Apparently the marketing was enough to draw people in, but I doubt it will get a lot of repeat viewings.

>>85441965
retard

>>85445199
>Wonder Woman bingo

Jew Jew Jew body Jew Jew Jew Cap1 Jew Jew Jew.

>>85452543
meanie alert! lol

>>85447745
>Oh please do a movie of the Cursed Child. That play is such a shitshow that it would be glorious.

Alan Rickman is dead, Tom Felton is balding and the rest look too old to play young.

>>85435800
>RoboCop remake could've been good.
Fuck you and your shit taste. RoboCop is such a great movie and made in a climate that could of only been made when it was. Any attempt to remake it would only result in the bland mediocre garbage we got with the remake, it's just not possible with the state of modern Hollywood. Also, why the fuck does RoboCop of all movies need a remake? It was a great film and it's almost impossible to remake it and come close to it in quality.

>>85448573
>Yeah but Force Awakens was fucking garbage.
It was good enough. It was a safe film, but consider what the film is meant to do, it makes sense to not take risks for the first of the new films.

Being "safe" is what you need if you want a franchise. Risks are what you take if you just want to experiment with one film.

>>85453925
Good enough for the nostalgiafags and people watching Star Wars for the first time.

Storywise it's a mess, it undermined the OT, made it meaningless.

>>85452720
Wow. Autism alert.

>>85431609
It's already broken even, but "breaking even" isn't enough.

>>85454164
It's good enough for casuals who are like 90% of the audience.

>>85454263
Star Wars may have sold its soul to Disney but DC can't even win the casuals over again like with Nolan. Money talks the loudest.

>>85453925
It was one of the most boring movies I've seen in years. I felt ripped off and I downloaded a cam.

>>85452466
There's no reason to watch it again. I even lost interest during the /co/ stream.

Maybe if the original cut comes out I'll give it another chance.

>>85454203
How is it autism? If you honestly think a remake of RoboCop could have even possibly been good then you're either a retard, a person with shit taste, or probably both.

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>Rocket Kirby
>le hurt
>Gayest. Heroes. REEE
>OH BABY A TRIPLE
>everyone upsetti
>WE'RE SOME KIND OF
Fuck, I love it when /co/ comes together to make shit like this.

>>85452651
That's why it would be great.

Now if they did a series of Movies about Albus being a Slytherin and a new cycle Force Awakens style. That could actually work.

>>85452720
Same reason they tagged Ghostbusters for that. Nostalgia

>>85454164
>people watching Star Wars for the first time.

That was a lot of the point. It was a reintroduction for a new generation around a new cast.

Overall I find it a fine film. Yea it nuked twenty odd years of EU material but a lot of it had gotten really stupid '00 on with the Vong stuff. But now they can sort through and get the good stuff and leave out the bad.

Already we've got Grand Admiral Thrawn back on deck with I'd guess the possibility of a member of his race the Chiss showing up at some point in films.

The good far outweighs the bad on this one.

>>85458147
The EU treatment is irrelevant. They made the OT heroes incompetent wash-ups to prop up the new ones. Old and busted, new hotness.

That's not integrity by any measure.

>>85458009
Only loosely based on Cursed Child then? No time travel?

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>>85459649
>They made the OT heroes incompetent wash-ups to prop up the new ones

>Han still pulling off seemingly impossible tricks to save the situation
>Leia is still one of the leaders of the rebellion
>Luke is literally the most important person in the galaxy

>They made the OT heroes incompetent wash-ups

Let me guess, your whole problem is that Rey knew about the modifications made to the Falcon while Han didn't

>>85446884
>Do you even know how they met? Why they like each other?
yes and yes

>It's completely off point.
No it wasnt

>No, it's something you grabbed out of your ass. Unless you have proof which you most likely don't.
Ivy gave Harley drugs which highly boosted her strength and athletic abilities, making her meta

>And Batman is going to shut down task force x like he said. Exposing her is the only way to do that.
Perhaps he will, likely they'll adapt that actual issue if comes to it.

>At best they helped distract Enchantress
good job ignoring the points i laid out

>(which is stupid because she can read minds)
No she couldn't

>The Flash segment hasn't even been leaked yet while the mid credits scene was out the day the movie premiered.
Yes it has?

>The stuff you've been ignoring?
literally only you have done that.

>There's nothing extra to know
Why not

>he already has their names and locations
It was at best established he had videos, when did it say he had names and locations?

>makes Batman look incompetent.
Kind of how it went in the comic then

>Stop defending this trash movie.
Mate its not my fault you're a retard. Shit i know there are problems with it and you have failed to address a single fucking one.

I find it likely you never read the ostrander stuff and haven't even seen the film

>>85459649
>They made the OT heroes incompetent wash-ups
That's literally the opposite of what happened