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Civil War II: X-Men #3 preview

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So anyone got that "Missing Mutants after Secret Wars" chart?
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Because we got another one turning up
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You can already guess from looking at this page
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>>85391910
Yeah yeah, we know, the cover leaked a while ago.
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Heeeeeere's Rachel, everyone!
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>>85391921
Fug I spoilered for nothing then
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So are civilians from DC more tolerable about mutates and other super-beings than MU Civilians? Just hit me after re-reading JLA/Avengers.
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>>85392037
Yes. Traditionally, DC civilians idolized their heroes. Just look at the Flash Museum. On the other hand, Marvel civilians are among the most hateful, bigoted, ignorant and generally detestable people in comics.
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>>85392037
When done right, yes
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>>85392037
This is retarded. I thought people feared and hated the shithumans too? What happened?
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>>85392037
Most of the time, yes. Only group that I know is hated are Metal Men.
Or that's just Giffen being Giffen.
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>>85391974
Magneto should wear a hat more often.
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>>85392196
Marvel knows their X-Audience is full of fear and paranoia about the line's status, so they play on those ideas in their comics.
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>>85392196
They never hated them. Outside that one panel where we've seen Friends of Humanity ripoff, I don't think they're HATED AND FEARED.
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>>85392266
He wears a helmet, that's sorta a hat.
Also, the black helmet with red trim is best.
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>>85392196
>>85392322

DC doesn't get political like Marvel does.
Even when Lex Luthor was President it all stayed comicbooky and never strayed into political statement.
Green Arrow used to be the big exception but that didn't last.
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Someone please hug me
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>>85394236
How about a mental hug?
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>>85394321
Fine by me
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>>85391779
I have yet to see this chart.
Now I want to see this chart.
This is going to bug me now.
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>>85394499
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>>85391779
Variant by Mike Mayhew
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>>85395609
shit
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>>85394588
This list must be out-dated.

- RIGHT off the bat, Cyclops isn't dead: He'll always be my little Champion
- Polaris can't be poisoned by the Terrigen cloud because she's not only immune to poisons after Apocalypse made her one of his Pestilence Horsemen, plus she was one of the M-Day depowered: not a mutant anymore.
- Surge (I'm 90% sure) has shown up in the background of Extraordinary's Limbo demon battle.
- Frenzy was in a #1 issue of Inhumans as "a mutant who didn't care abou her reputation"
- Eva Bell quit the teams and began travelling the multiverse of timelines in Uncanny#500
- Rachel...
- Gambit showed up alive and well and thieving in the last Uncanny Avengers
- Quentin is a post-life manifestation of a higher existence cast-away psychic form (or something) so I don't think he can even actually die.
- Madrox is a multitude of people spread out around the world, fat chance that they all died.
- Dani Moonstar was M-Day depowered so she can't die by mist either, plus she's an associate of Hela herself... so...
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>>85396288
List is outdated.
And Cyclops is dead. Champions will have notmuh version.
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>>85396333
How much you wanna bet that you'll come to prefer classic Cyke sooner or later?
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>>85396288
your knowledge of lore pleases me
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>>85396385
Never!
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>>85394588
why don't they ask Doctor Nemesis for a cure
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>>85396413
>>85396385
>not wanting like ten version of Scotty running around all the time
what's wrong with you guys, I thought you were fans
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>>85392124
>Marvel civilians are among the most hateful, bigoted, ignorant and generally detestable people in comics.
Hate to say it but sometimes that feels like the more realistic representation of modern humanity.
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>>85396446
>wanting to cure Inhumanity
Ewww, they're like X-Men but better. Why don't you read Jenkins' Inhumans? It's their only good story!
>>85396474
If he was worth a fuck, I'd want him. He's been useless ever since he showed up.
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>>85396484
only if you are lazy
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>>85393715
they did do one miniseries called DC:Votes where every hero except superman essentially gave up their political orientation.

green arrow saves so leftist and in the process gives him an endorsement(that leads to big bump in the polls) so every hero starts endorsing candidates.

batman and wonder woman eventually get in on it as a way to embed themselves into those campaigns(they are also stopping a mad bomber at the time).

In the end the only person who's political allegiance wasn't revealed was superman.
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>>85396512
to save the mutants
Nemesis is 100% immune
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>>85396522
Yeah. Lois and Hawkman are Republican,because muh strong military. Ollie wanted to kill Hal, Bruce supported Democrat? Liberal? I remember it was some guy with Hispanic surname.
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>>85396515
Did you fall out of the Durp tree and hit every branch on the way down?
We're /co/ here, all we do is passively absorb entertainment. Nobody is more lazy!
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>>85391947
>Turning eletricity into music
Huh
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>>85396593
batman never endorsed anyone technically, but Bruce wayne donated a large amount to the democrats to embed himself in that campaign.

while wondy went republican.

One could argue that neither technically gave up their orientation since it was all a ruse to better protect the candidates but I assume the intention was to show their alliegence. makes sense.

Bruce always seemed centre left. and if wondy isn't a war hawk then no-one is.
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>>85394588
Surge hasn't done jack shit since Disk Wars.
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>X-MEN 3
>CIVIL WAR 2
>40 SECONDS LEFT IN THE THIRD
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>>85394588
I have now updated and have searched each and everyone on this list. I Saw Pixie in that Splash page in Civil War II #1 but couldn't trust it with Bendis continuity.

Also put the badly put green X's for ALive status.
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>>85396522
>they did do one miniseries called DC:Votes

For any anons looking this up, it's actually called DC Universe Decisions.
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>>85396288

Yeah, I was the one who came up with this list, and as you mention, a handful of these have shown up since I made the list, and a couple of people I was unaware of (like Frenzy) had appeared. I did create an updated version of that list later, but sadly I can't find it now.
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>>85396723
thats the one. yeah my memory is shot.

someone should story time that before election day.
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>>85396656
Yeah, you're right. I should've said it was Bruce, not Batman. He did that to keep an eye on guy, anyway.
>>85396692
>all those muggas
At least we got Siberforce back!
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>>85396692
You're right, there she is, clear as day!
I new they'd never kill off a character with such an iconic look!
(and it can't be a bendis flub because this is the artist's duty)
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Anyone else find Civil War II: X-Men to be really sub-par?
It seems kind phoned in.
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>>85397179
>kind phoned in
At least we learned BASED GODDESS is race traitor.
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>>85397249
Cut her some slack.

First of all, She betrayed mutantkind LONG before that... Joined the Fantastic Four, married the (male,WTFStorm?) King of Wakanda, betrayed our Phoenixclops in AVX, Betrayed our Rightclops post AVX, betrayed Beast in his Hankervention, and even betrayed The Inhumans by telling old psycho Magneto about the fortune teller.
And second, we should pity this poor crazy lady who thinks she's a goddess, chats with dead people, and thinks Hell is prime real-estate for a makeshift hospital.
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>>85396930
You know Uncanny Avengers had a completely different Hellfire club to Bunn's comic a couple of months prior.
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>>85397179
It's all a bit forced. But it's still way more level-headed and sensible than either Xtra X-Men or Civil War 2.
Bunn isn't a good writer. But he sort of manages to get by with his X-Men work by endlessly bringing up, referencing and sticking to other people's continuity, mostly classic Claremont.
It's a shame that Soule and Lemire are writing the next two events. I don't think either of them has any clue about X-Men.
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>>85397423
I prefered that (classic) lineup over lolMagneto'sgf.
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>>85397364
Bigger backstabber than Hank. Color me impressed.
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>>85397485
Yeah, Bunn's lineup is really week. Mostly because 3 out of 5 are Magneto/one of Magneto's teammates/Magneto's obsessed fuckbuddy.
I was hoping it was a classic line-up + Magneto so the club would have its own agenda.
Even if Monet turns into poor-man's Seline now, the club is still pretty toothless unless Shaw makes something major happen.
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>>85397545
I respect that he wants to continue story from Magneto solo...
That's all.
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>>85396692
Wait has Armor shown up?

And should we count Firestar?
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>>85396692
Transonic was in Evan's birthday party in All New X Men
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>>85397609
>was superimportant
>now is wallpaper for C-lister's birthday
And still got it out better than Hope.
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>>85397629
She was never super important, even by X-Kids standards she was pretty forgettable

Idie on the other hand was pretty important because of Schism and how much focus she got in WATXM
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>>85397609
Well Hell, I never expected to see one of the Five Lights besides Idie again. Then again I don't really read All New X-Men so there was that...
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>>85397705
She was a major part of the line for some time, and was the new leader of X-Force the last time she was seen before Secret Wars shit things up.
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>>85397705
She was still one of the Lights, so even if not very important individually, she got a good deal of screentime as part of the group.

Yet, you could argue this is an even bigger fuck up>>85397629, if we are talking importance
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>>85397734
I meant Transonic

Hope was always supposed to be important, but no one wanted to touch her after AvX
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>>85397819
Hopeless used her. In book that /co/mrades unironically recommend.
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>>85397819
Oh yeah, sorry, misread.

I really think Gen Hope is one of the weaker youth teams they've ever created. I really can't blame none of them sticking other than Hope herself and Idie.
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>>85397828
It was mindless fun

It's not great like Claremont or Morrison, but it's still more enjoyable than a lot of bad X-Books like Humphries Uncanny X-Force
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>>85397997
Thing I liked: Nemesis and Forge fighting with their monsters. That rocked. Psylocke's I AM WEAPON, I AM DAMAGED, I CAN'T FEEL, I'M DEAD INSIDE, WE'RE ALL DEAD, STOP USING US LIKE WEAPONS, NATE not so much.
Oh, giving Colossus love interest that isn't Pryde is good.
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>>85398049
Psylocke was in Remender's and Humphries and Spurrier's X-Forces

Not in Hopeless'
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>>85398103
Oh, riiight. And I wondered why I remember art differently.
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>>85391910
What am I supposed to be looking at other than your standard bad future end scenario
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>>85391974
>>85392037
>peeps into people's mind
>wonders why they hate mutants
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>>85391947
You know... A thought occurs...

What if there was a family where a member was cacooned by the mist and in the process was unable to protect their mutant sibling/child/parent from the mist/succumbing to the pox?

Could you imagine the sheer amount of hatred that person and their newfound powers would unleash upon the world?
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>>85398593
And I'm just not talking about hatred for the Inhumans...

They would hate civilians like >>85391974... They would have the Avengers for their complacency... And if they ever learned about the Magneto's "rescue" of mutants who willingly allowed themselves to be cyrostatis'd by Someday Enterprises to wait out the mists, they'd sure as hell hate the X-Men too...
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>>85398755
Unless Magneto got mandate to create team, he's not leading official X-Men team.
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>>85398202
your standard bondage for your gf
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>>85398767

He's basically leading an X-Force in all but name
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How does Marvel want anyone to support the Inhumans? Their fucking gas is killing probably millions, and all they can say is "It's sacred to us"
I mean, do they hope the love of Kamala overtakes the love for mutants?
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I'm happy to see Rachel back safely since it feels like she's someone always in danger of being swept under the rug in the event of a continuity sweepout

Also happy she chose her sides well. Why the FUCK are the X-Men siding with Carol?
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>>85398906
The Inhumans push is failed and almost over. The movie is cancelled and they've given the property entirely to Agents of SHIT

People love Kamala but the Inhumans can't even pull off riding her coattails.
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>>85398985
Which is why pushing Medusa so much was so boneheaded. She's completely unlikable.
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>>85394588
According to some rumor, no one is allowed to touch Cecilia without Marjorie Liu approval
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>>85398879
My "mandate" comment referenced that X-Men issue when Storm said she's not allowed to make a team, that she doesn't have mandate and whatnot.
Only to create it. Fuck me if I remember where I've seen that.
>>85399031
Like anyone gives a fuck about her. Or needing her approval. Look how she bowed her head with Icegay.
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>>85399118
And seriously, fuck her. She's the reason why the New X-Men vanished cause "She didn't like them"
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>>85399157
Because Warbird is such awesome character.
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>>85399020
>She's completely unlikable.
Not to mention what she pulled of on Stark. OK, he isn't innocent here, but what Medusa did was way too much.

And then Maximus and Triton add fuel to the fire by blowing up Stark Towers.
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>>85399289
Thank God none of Tony's gfs doesn't have cure for Inhumans.
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>>85392124
They used to be much more of a mixed bag, but got flanderized into the hateful virtual lynch mob they are today.

Doesn't help that all the X-men's non mutant supporting cast has kind of evaporated.
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>>85391910
>Putting young men and women in creepy bondage gear as 'pets'
#PROBLEMATIC
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>>85399477
I thought tumbler loves bondage, because muh 50 Shades of Twilight?
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>>85399493
Tumblr is weirdly divided on 50 Shades.
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>>85396692

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Living_Mutants
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>>85399654
Thank God, Mindblast is alive.
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>>85394588
Domino, Frenzy, Jubilee, Gambit, Rachel Grey, Warlock, Cannonball at the very least are all accounted for.
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>>85394588
>>85400300
Oh and Goldballs is in Spiderman Miles Morales edition.
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>>85400300

Pixie too

I think that picture is pretty old and not updated at this point
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>>85391947
I don't understand why Magneto and co haven't destroyed the mist or destroyed the Inhumans for not containing the mist yet.

This is genocide, pure and simple.
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>>85392196
Only because they think they're mutants.
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>>85400491
Because attacking Inhumans is what killed Scott Summers.
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>>85396723
zippy link plz
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>>85400589
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>>85400705
>>85398622
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>>85400705
Request on the Win-O' instead
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>>85400865
My hero!
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>>85400589
People in Marvel at this point are irredeemably stupid and bigoted.

I really want a series now where after a catastrophic event the majority realizes how shit they were towards mutants and others with powers.

Bt this will never happen right?
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>>85396692
Pixie showed up in a CWII spread.
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>>85401988
Actually a splash page.
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I read this thinking it was an Inhumans vs X-Men preview, liked it, thought that it was good in spite of Soule-Lemire, and then realized it was Bunns Civil War tie in.
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>>85392037
>They're barely concerned with the mutants who died because of the t-mists.
>They're more curious about the new inhumans who were born here.
>Ah. Yes, I would have expected as much.
>Marvel wants you to think like this.
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>>85399654
I wonder if Whirlwind is suffering from Terigen Mist exposure or if the writers just forgot he was a mutant.
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>>85403447
He doesn't give a shit about mutant politics and hangs out with non-mutant supervillains. Without editorial, writers could forget his origin.
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>>85403447
With his powers, I imagine he could avoid the cloud just by spinning the the mist away.
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>>85403689
>Episode where Blizzard freaks out when he realizes that his pal is a mutant but then Whirlwind points out he can just spin to safety.
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