BOX OFFICE: 40% Fri-Sat Drop For SUICIDE SQUAD

No daddy no.

>>85244499

not surprising, the movie had some enjoyable moments but was painfully mediocre to outright bad in spots.

>Despite the huge opening for Suicide Squad, when it comes to the audience and critics’ response to the film, it’s deja-vu all over again. Like Batman v. Superman, which earned a 27% Rotten Tomatoes score and B CinemaScore, Suicide Squad is getting panned by critics (26%) and has registered an above average response from CinemaScore crowds who gave it a B+ tonight.

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>But Suicide Squad‘s weaker grades were with the middle-age folks with 25-34 year olds (22%) and 35-49 year olds (17%) giving it a B. That’s who dragged this pic’s CinemaScore down to a B+. Some think that a 60% second weekend decline is imminent.

http://deadline.com/2016/08/suicide-squad-weekend-box-office-opening-will-smith-margot-robbie-1201799046/

Haha, its BvS all over again

>lol your reviews mean nothing look at our box office the audiences love us!

Literally one of the biggest weekend box office drop offs later

>audiences are just too stupid to understand our capekino! Disney rigged the market!

Well, Justice League's going to bomb faster than Hiroshima.

>>85244563
Just wait until November, the DCucks will be in full force trying to discredit Doctor Strange.

>>85244627
Fuck you, man.

>>85244627
Jokes on you, I have the protection cat on my side

>>85244499
There was an anon who predicted the drop a day ago I think, and another told him to keep telling himself that.
I'm only here to middleman for the first anon a "Told (You) so" to the latter.

Now that our business is done I'll be off.

>>85244627
Not funny

>>85244499
The positive buzz will most likely get more people out to see it, especially those that were deterred by the reviews, now that people are actually talking a lot about how wrong critics are.

>>85244627
If dubs the curse is reversed onto you

>>85244563
>Yes! We won! We have fewer good movies!

>>85244707
That's not what rt says

Stay mad kiddo

>>85244627
Bruh.

>>85244707

This.

>>85244707

Marvel Cinematic Universe
>LITERALLY no rotten films

>DC Cinematic Universe
>LITERALLY no fresh films

Kek you keep telling yourself that

>>85244737
Fuuuuck yooou

>>85244750
What about FOX cinematic mutant universe ?

>>85244737
Yep! Love the little guy.

>>85244627
K.

Glorious. Glorious.

The DCEU was irreversibly poisoned by Snyder with the garbage that was Man of Steel, followed by the cinematic abortion of BvS.

This isn't "company wars". I love DC, and it's because I love DC that I pray for the DCEU's failure. What they've set up is utterly worthless shit.

It needs to crash and burn so that there can be hope that something better comes along one day.

>>85244768
Deadpool will carry. If they hand over X-spin off stuff to the same team they might even do the same magic they managed with Colossus and NTW for others.

>>85244768
The X-men franchise has always been really hit or miss. They have a few good ones in there but most are mediocre-to-bad.

>>85244707
god tier bait

>>85244723
>>85244750
No, retards, I'm saying you're cheering about movies being bad. You WANT there to be more bad movies, for some inane reason.

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Look, Suicide Squad was never expected to do well, it was just a stepping stone to better movies.

Wonder Woman will be the big break DC needs.

>>85244808
If that's the case why wasn't the movie dead on arrival?

>>85244832
BAZINGA

>>85244737
Fug

>>85244627
Bfjkg

>>85244627
nice prank

>>85244832
Stop

>>85244808
This.

>>85244737
reeee

>>85244849
Same reasons BvS wasn't: massive opening.

Suicide Squad had one of the widest August openings of all time with 4,250 theaters showing it across the country.

Like BvS, this front-loading let it make a huge burst of money upfront before the bad reviews and word of mouth took it down.

>>85244627
fuck you, anon, what is wrong with you

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So, how do we fix the DCEU?

>>85244808

The DCEU doesn't have the quality control the Marvel films have, each of the directors is pretty much free to do whatever they want within the framework that Snyder laid out, and I think that really hurts the films overall.

Marvel's films have a different problem, they are becoming quite stale and formulaic.

>>85244832
>>85244627
Fucking hell

>>85244903
The word of mouth for suicide squad has been largely positive tho.

>>85244908

Considering some of the biggest money makers in cinema are stale and formulaic, I don't think Marvel sees it as a problem..

>>85244768
Kind of in between the two. Some excellent stuff, some garbage, some that was just "meh".

Why the huge dropoff?

>>85244627
>>85244737
NO MOMMY NO

>>85244627
Fuck you bruh

>>85244963
They believed the critics for some reason.

>>85244907
Fire Snyder

Fire Ayers

Fire Goyer

Fire or Relocate any executive who had anything to do with MoS, BvS, or Suicide Squad

DC already has a full blueprint on how to make successful, beloved DC movies: the DCAU. So:

1. Put Bruce Timm in charge

2. Do what the DCAU did

3. Endless profit

>>85244627
Get banned you fuck.

>>85244963
Front loaded + word of mouth

>>85244942
It must have been that positive word of mouth that boosted sales, then.

Oh wait, no, sales dropped.

How are DC shills this dumb?

>>85244737
REEEEEE
>>85244832
Fucking niggers

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>R-rated Deadpool Opening Weekend: $135 million
>PG-13 Suicide Squad Opening Weekend: $135.1 million

Hate to rain on your parade DCucks (or piss on it, in this case), but LOL at Suishit Squad with the Joker, Batman and Harley and a PG-13 rating being barely able to beat a C-list Marvel character like Deadpool

>>85244907
We'll see where Geoff Johns takes it since his recent promotion to heading all of it instead of just TV. Maybe we'll believe believe believe a Superman can smile.

>>85244990
But Word of mouth for the movie has been good, even those who didn't like it don't hate it.

>>85244963
Because the movie was utter shit and as soon as audiences were exposed to it that became impossible to hide?

>>85245010
>Deadpool
>C-list
Nice company war anyway.

>>85244627
Reply to my post or thebDCEU dies with Wonder Woman's solo film.

>>85244768
>What about FOX cinematic mutant universe ?
The writer for X-men 1 and 2 was fired by Tom Rothman. Rothman hated the X-men and wanted it to fail from the start. And X-men as a franchise only recovered when Rothman left and the original people was brought back. And now Rothman is running Sony.

>>85244907
Make the tone of the movie fit the character, like people except a solo Superman movie to be light and about hope and thing like that while a solo Batman movie can be darker etc...

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MARVEL, STOP! STOP IT!

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, HE'S ALREADY DEAD!

>>85245010
Hey, estimated weekend. For all we know and let's face it, expect, Deadpool can still beat it

>>85245016
>the movie was utter shit
No it wasn't.

>>85244737
But I still have its protection after reading the first two panels so...

>>85244627
h

>>85245021
He is, though, in terms of general population knowledge. I guarantee if you had asked people on the street who Deadpool was before the movie almost no one would have known.

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>>85244832

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>>85244982
Yeah... put Bruce Timm in charge so he can muck it up like he did with his most recent addition to the DCAU: The Killing Joke.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>85245039
That explains its massive critical and commercial success, then.

>>85244907

Ditch Snyder

Instate a measure of quality control similar to what Feige does for marvel.

Establish the Trinity in 3 separate movies, bring in the rest of the league over the span of the three movies (Superman meets Flash, Wonder Woman meets aquaman. ect) then bring them together for the justice league.

Boom, you just did what marvel has been trying to do in half the time.

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>>85244627

>>85245054
Yeah movies can change a character's popularity ranking.

>>85244849
It's the fucking Joker, dude. People are still talking about Ledger... everyone knows DC/WB has the greatest star power in the genre (ignoring Spiderman and maybe X-men/Wolverine), the only thing keeping them down is the quality of their own products

>>85245072
Quality has nothing to do with that.

>>85244942
The only thing we have to measure this "word of mouth" is cinemascore, and for now it's more or less following BvS' road

Other than that all i've heard is that my sister says a lot of people on twitter are bitching for the lack of Joker. I can't speak for what i've heard personally because the movie isn't out yet here

>>85244822
>>85244827
>>85244958
>>85245024
Sooo what i get is that FOX is second place in the cape movies race ?

Well until the valiant cinematic universe comes.

>>85244903
how can it be frontloaded so much that it breaks records if the well is poisoned by the association to Snyder like the anon claimed? By all logic it should have tanked since this is the third movie in the DCEU. BvS started out big but suffered from negative to polarizing word of mouth, where as Suicide Squad is opening big AND enjoying great word of mouth and people actively saying the critics were full of shit when they panned it.

>>85245119
When is it coming out at your place?
18th here.

>>85245119
>cinemascore is the only measurement
What about just checking social media and see what people are actually saying?

>>85244618
Marveltrash discredits itself though.

>>85245146
13th
I'll probably watch it on the second weekend tho

>>85245130
Where? Because this is following the exact same path as BvS which also had fanboys claiming the GREAT WORD OF MOUTH excuse.

And we all saw how that ended

At least they'll make their budget back.

Though I doubt enough people will care to get the uncut DVD that is clearly going to be put out in response.

>>85244592
>implying anyone's actually going to see JL

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, shame on both of us."

>>85245128
It's sad to think that we might have gotten a brilliant Daredevil movie from FOX post Deadpool rather than that shit heap show on Netflix we got.

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>>85244737

>>85244737
Kitty no ;_;

>>85244499
>it appears that the negative reviews are actually affecting the opening weekend box office numbers.
If that were the case the initial night wouldn't have been as large. You would've seen a massive difference between presales tickets for the opening night and normal ticketing.

What's far more likely is this means word of mouth on the film was so bad from those who were excited enough to see it opening night that those who held out just for one night heard bad word-of-mouth and decided against seeing it.

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Updated
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/754331-suicide-squad-opens-to-267-million-worldwide#/slide/1

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We entrusted our hopes and dreams to Zack Synder!

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>>85245182

>>85245209
Lol, sub 550 million worldwide confirmed.

>>85245130
What great word of mouth? It has a B Cinemascore, which is pretty damn bad for blockbusters. Even shitty ones manage to get an A.

>>85244699
Buzz is middling, bro.

>>85245182
>good cape film
> by FOX
Did we watch the same movies?

>>85245158
Nobody was using great word of mouth excuse for BvS tho, it was all about the kino and how normies weren't expecting a operatic drama from Batman and Superman.

>>85245130
>Suicide Squad is opening big AND enjoying great word of mouth
I'm sorry, anon, but that's not what the evidence shows. A huge drop in a single day can't be explained by anything but bad word of mouth.

>>85244768
Hit'n'miss. Its good movies are better than anything from the MCU and its bad movies are worse than anything from the DCEU.

MCU is consistently above average, DCEU is consistently below average. XCU alternates between dogshit and kino.

>>85245158
It's got B+ cinemascore. And nearly all talk I've seen is been more positive than negative.

>>85245128
>Sooo what i get is that FOX is second place in the cape movies race ?
We don't know. X-men isn't dead or anything, it's just that it has mixed history so people aren't sure about the quality. Deadpool obviously gave them a boost, but we will see if they can build something from that.

Sony dropped the ball with Spiderman but should do okay with letting Marvel run things for Homecoming. Rothman say that they will deliberately keep their hands off the film and just worry about counting the money. Ghost Busters 2016 was meant to be Sony's new cinimatic universe but clearly that is dead now.

Warner? Looks like despite issues, SS will sell okay despite bad reviews. My only problem with that is that I don't want them to starting thinking executive last minute editing is a good idea. Because Wonder Woman seemed to be going fine and the last thing it needs is to have Trailer Park editing it.

Warner hasn't failed as such, the issue is that Kevin their CEO has higher expectations and demands than any of the other rival companies. So he is wasting more money, demanding more changes, and is far less patient. My opinion is that Warner is in danger of self destruction from doing too much too soon.

>>85245210
This is Johns and WB fault.

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This pattern will repeat itself for Justice League unless somebody thinks of something quick.

All the die-hard DC fans will see it opening day then it will peter out.

Hell, even if JL is above and beyond everyone's expectations and gets a 99% on Rotten Tomatoes this is likely at this point because of the bad reputation WB is building in their franchise.

>>85245236
>what great word of mouth
The hundreds of people who are saying that it was actually pretty good.

>>85245268

Right now all the pressure is on WW.

>>85245246
it's indicative of people looking at the reviews and staying home, which ought to turn now due to the word of mouth saying the critics are wrong

>>85245069

Year One wasn't that great either, unfortunately.

>>85245256
>Because Wonder Woman seemed to be going fine and the last thing it needs is to have Trailer Park editing it.
No fuck that, I want Wonder Woman to fail. I NEED Wonder Woman to fail. Solely so I can call it Blunder Woman. That pun is too good to not get an opportunity to use man

>>85245246
But where is this bad word of mouth coming from? Not twitter or tumblr or reddit of even facebook, a lot of people just have positive things to say.

>>85244737
Fuck you.

>>85245253
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO YOU FUCKING COMPREHEND THAT ANYTHING NOT A+ OR A IS BAD?

>>85245271
>hundreds of people
Kek

Also no, fanboys don't count.

>>85244737
Too afraid of meme magic not to respond

>>85245281
And despite all the numales lavishing praise on WW, it will still suck and flop at the box office

>>85245271
Then why did it drop so hard from Friday to Saturday?

>>85244627
fookin

Love it or hate it, the film is a financial success. It made budget and then some, world-wide.

The question is, how much does the studio expect to actually make, total?

Sometimes it's not JUST about making enough to get a little over even. You don't want to just break even, you want a MASSIVE profit margin. What were the SS expectations?

>>85245187
>>85245236
>>85245246
>it has bad word of mouth
Not from what I've seen.

>>85244907
Have Snyder make a Crisis on Infinite Earths movie, then a full reboot of the universe except keeping the same casting. For Lex Luthor, just have it so Eisenberg was Alexander Luthor Jr. instead of Lex so we can still get a proper Lex.

Make sure Goyer and Snyder are nowhere near the reboot. Give Geoff Johns the power to veto any creative decisions made by meddling executives.

>>85245308
You're right, it's probably higher number.

>>85245286
>it's indicative of people looking at the reviews and staying home
No. See >>85245202
The embargo was lifted well before the premiere, if reviews had been the deciding factor it wouldn't have opened as large and would've grown with positive word-of-mouth.

It's great that you like the movie, or want to like it if that's the case, good for you, enjoy what you enjoy.

The evidence seems to be that most people don't like it.

>>85245340
Needs $700 million to break even, according to insiders.

>>85245300
Nigger I'm looking at Twitter right now saying it sucked. Of course if you look up "suicide squad good", you're only gonna get positive results

>>85245256
>self-destruction
Not making as much money as Disney does not equal self-destruction.

>>85245302
>implying the 20+ Year old whites are affecting what the young and ethnic crowd thinks
Blacks and spics are loving this movie.

>>85245340
>Sometimes it's not JUST about making enough to get a little over even. You don't want to just break even, you want a MASSIVE profit margin. What were the SS expectations?
Leaked source said that they would be happy with 600million box office. This is far less reliable than having Feig telling us what GB2016 needed in an interview, so don't take it as fact.

>>85245150
Because i didn't befriend the whole planet on Twitter or Facebook?

But yeah, let's take a look i guess , i'm searching "suicide squad" on twitter

>"It's amazing how these movies suddenly find their "racial inclusion" when it's a movie about evil and villainy. #SuicideSquad"
>"if you go into @SuicideSquadWB expecting to see a "Dark Knight"-style film, prepare for disappointment"
>"im seeing suicide squad today yay"
>news
>news
>news
>"The critics (political or otherwise) are powerless"
>Some spanish shit
>news
>news
>news
>Pics of the cast carrying pineapples (???)
>more news and more spanish shit
>People complaining about spoilers
>"Suicide Squad wasn't as bad as people were making it out to be. Sure, it wasn't the best film, but it was okay"
>"I feel like it was The Joker who actually wrote BVS: Dawn Of Justice and Suicide Squad as part of his diabolical plan to make us hate Batman"

I can't understand anything like this

>>85245326
That's what I'm asking,

>>85245340
>The question is, how much does the studio expect to actually make, total?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693

>Even on the day of the premiere, one insider fretted about whether Suicide Squad would mirror BvS' huge opening and weak legs. Another veteran says the goal is survival: "The movie's got to do $750 million, $800 million to break even. If they get anywhere close to that, they'll consider it a win."

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>>85245300
>But where is this bad word of mouth coming from? Not twitter or tumblr or reddit of even facebook
...people's mouths as they talk to one another in person

Also private messaging of all kinds, but that's not as funny.

>>85244627
Hi

>>85244737
-.-

>>85245369
I'm looking at twitter too and far more positive than negative so I don't what hashtags you're looking at.

>>85245108
It does

>>85245350
Eisenber ALREADY IS Alexander Luthor Jr. His dad built the company, he was the Lex in front of the corp.

>>85245370
>Not making as much money as Disney does not equal self-destruction.
That's what you don't get. Kevin want DC films to replace Harry Potter. And so far every sign point to him being extremely impatient and want as much money as possible, as soon as possible. That's what I mean by self destruction, as they might be so greedy as to push the production into a bad place.

>>85245367

It CAN'T be that high. That's nigh-impossible.

>>85245271
Vs the hundreds of thousands who thought the movie was mediocre and didint feel like making a giant shit show about it online

>>85245396
Sounds about right. It cost about 200, give it a marketing and distribution of 150-200. Counting the average 50% BO take, the 750 figure seems appropriate

>>85245419
Well there ya' go. Shit practically writes itself.

>>85245426
vs the BILLIONS of people that didn't watch or have an opinion on it

>>85245428
Don't act like you know about anything about movie finances anon.

>>85245449
Except Alexander Luthor Jr was always actually just Lex Luthor after faking his death to avoid criminal charges and assuming a new identity as a son to inherit and keep all his stuff.

>>85245412
>>85245369
>my social media is showing the views I like!
That's what it does you fucking idiots, it brings up what you want to see and hides what you don't. Don't ever think the opinions you see on social media reflect the general public.

Even beyond that our brains on a fundamental level can't process a tribe of more than a few thousand people, so when we see ghostbusters having 50,000 negative comments or a wall of hundreds of positive comments on social media we think "this is everybody!" when in fact there are approaching 320 million people in the united states.

>>85244737

SHIIIIEEEETTT!!!!

>>85245375
>implying they pay for movies

>>85245423
Eh, not really. It's the only movie for awhile so I don't see it fizzling out like SUPER awful. I don't care either way, but I don't think it's impossible.

>>85245300
That's because you're insulating your self from people who disagree with your opinion

Why do you people care about box office results?

Why do DC fan boys and Marvel fan boys feel the need to shit post each others shit movies all the fucking time?

>>85245108
This must be what they're saying the WB offices to keep making these mistakes.

"Our movies keep failing. Could it have anything to do with quality?"

"No, no, must be something else."

>>85244737
Darn

>>85245500
Yes, and JokerxHarley was a cautionary tale against abusive relationships and Joker didn't really have feelings for Harley beyond enjoying controlling her rather than TRUE LOVE.

See, things change in adaptations.

>>85245010

DEADPOOL WAS B LIST AT THE VERY LEAST

HE IS A LIST NOW

>>85245423
Not really. It cost $200 million, plus an additional $100 million for reshoots (they reworked the entire CGI-heavy third act), plus marketing.

That puts it roughly in the $350 million to $400 million budget, and you have to double it to break even, ergo $750 million to $800 million.

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>>85244499
I WAS RIGHT

>>85245130
>how can it be frontloaded so much that it breaks records if the well is poisoned by the association to Snyder like the anon claimed?

Are you really retarded or just pretending?

A lot of people were hoping this might be the movie to turn the DCEU around IN SPITE of BvS.

They quickly realized it isn't.

>>85245527
Box office results are indicative that a movie is succesful and there'll be sequels.

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>>85245310
Oh for fuck sake, can someone from /x/ get in here and explain the rules of curses, propitiation and the like?

If anyone actually died as result of this memery the person invoking it would see an equal or greater number of the females in their family tree afflicted with sudden ovarian cancer.
It's why sacrifices to begin with have required giving away things of considerable value before receiving anything and also having specific targets. You don't just toss bags of shit into a well and have all your enemies killed off for fuck all, you slit a few goat necks or banish a few slaves to a slow death in the desert.

And don't come at me for believing in this hocus pocus if you responded to any of these chain letters in your life, you daft cunts.

>>85245130
>enjoying great word of mouth and people actively saying the critics were full of shit when they panned it.

If this were true the movie would be doing better or staying the same, not dropping.

This is just sad. For your own sake, please stop this, anon.

>>85245561
>Is there any freedom of speech on 4chan
Fuck no. Not for ages

>Why is Marvel better than DC when it comes to series and movies ?
WB are shitting the bed creatively. Everything they've tried post-Harry Potter has been either a financial failure or a critical failure. They've been trying to set up another tentpole franchise, but each and every one has ended up failing out the gate.

There's a reason after five years they gave in and went back to the Potter franchise

>>85245527
Because those faggot disniggers need to learn their fucking place. Their movies don't deserve a tenth of the success they get. Meanwhile our movies have actual value and have much better characters.

And I'll sooner die insulting marveldrones and murdering all those payed off film critics than see my movies dragged down to their level.

>>85245591
Value is subjective, John. You can toss any shit down a well as long as you believe it will work. You gotta use headology, boy.

>>85245561
>Is there any freedom of speech on 4chan
It's a privately owned website, so no. Obviously not.

>>85244982
I'm with it up until Timm on his own. Dini and Timm worked best together to get everything to flow right. Where one would go off, the other would pull them back in. That's why the DCAU worked so well for so long with that yin-yang relationship they had.

I would keep the Cereal King away as well. As much faith as some have in him, I have absolutely zero belief he will save anything other than his Michael Bay style comics in even poorer movie form.

DC needs a strong outside hand with a single vision of pulling up a universe which has equal darkness and light to it. Kevin Feige is Marvel's, as he's a giant comic fanboy and worked on many comic films before the MCU started to get a feel for what does and doesn't work.

You would have some slim hope someone like Snyder doing so many comic movies would also grow along the way, but filters & imagery is all he walked away loving in his almost Injustice vision. His wife being a big producer at WB has only made this worse.

I like Nolan to a big degree as an architect to the DCverse as every horrible change Snyder/Goyer did, he was against while they convinced WB to do it anyway. Nolan would need full authority to overrule stupid ideas. Could Timm/Nolan work? I have no idea. I think that's like putting two giant egos in the same room hoping nothing bad will happen because we know one will eventually meltdown. I'm looking at you, Timm!

WB needs to be taken away from touching shit. Ayer might have had a decent film on his own. Not great, but better than the current DCEU. Music choices, editing, banking on a fucking trailer company to make the movie better... these are terrible ideas WB gave us. Ayer isn't the greatest director (Sabotage, among others are pretty mediocre), but it still had a chance to be better than Synderverse where Batman could get raped in Prison and Superman is depressing as fuck.

>>85245561
Marvel had a clear vision and a solid plan, despite a few bumps along the way. Plus, Kevin Feige actually likes/respects comics and knows what fans like.

Warner doesn't care about DC outside of the profit it might generate and is just rushing to measure up to Marvel's success with no clear plan and no patience.

This is the studio that made "Batman & Robin", for which Joel Schumacher is unfairly blamed.

>>85245592
>if this was true
It is.

>>85245561
They aren't.

>>85244737
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>>85244737
TRAITOR

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>>85245627

>>85245527
Well because of the critics m8. Critics love the Marvel brand so they hype them up and act like these movies are comics done right.

>>85245740
They are more likely payed by the Marvel brand.

>>85244499
If you like comic book movies, you will want to see this one. It's not Civil War, and there is plenty wrong with it, but it's plenty entertaining,

>>85245300

Critics, too many are negatively reviewing it. So obviously RT score is gonna take a nosedive .

RT scores are where most of the movie audience relies for honest feedback of the movie since they get aggregated reviews as a whole

>>85244737
Goddammit you adorable little kitty

>>85245561
Meanwhile >>85241400 is still up.

Mods are DC shills.

>>85245768
>It's not Civil War
What's that supposed to mean? Civil War sucked ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YjGrZYRAtc

>>85244563
>>85244618
>>85244750

Holy shit can we ban at sight every company wars poster or every marveldrone?
/tv/ is fucking leaking, this board isn't even about comics anymore

>>85245818
sup cancer

>>85244982
So... Batwank forever?

>>85245561
Daredevil is a good TV show. CW Flash season 1 is also one the best superheroes' serie. Gotham is decent.

>>85245735
You'll be the first.

>>85245763
I don't think it's like that but I do think that they brought onto the marvel a little too much and now they believe that's how Superheroes are.

>>85245817
>What's that supposed to mean? Civil War sucked ass.
Civil War is the first film in the Marvel film universe that required that you seen past films to appreciate. I note that it seems there is a lot of complaints about the lack of a giant fight at the end or that the person doesn't care about the Avengers breaking up. Fair enough. But Civil War basically assumed that you saw all the Avengers films, all the Cap films, and all the Ironman films. Anyone who hadn't seen all of these are unlikely to ever be happy with Civil War anyway.

>>85245807
Indeed must be autistic DCfags. No objectivity at all.

>>85245844
It's too bad DC studios can't make enough money to pay for the chemo to fix their movie.

reeeeeeeeeee

>>85244737
Hello cat, pls dont kill me mum

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>>85244499
>how can a suicide squad movie lose money, they said
>And I, Zac Snyder, accepted their challenge.

>>85244737
Nope

>>85244618
Fuck off with your company wars bullshit. Suicide Squad was damn good and doesn't deserve this bullshit. Doctor Strange is gonna be great and all these ignorant cunts are going to think so to.

Maybe Wonder Woman will get by unscathed for not offending their weak wristed liberal feelings.

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>>85245882

>>85245527
I just really like looking at BO statistics
I know, >>>/tv>>85245532
/, but I'm a /co/mrade through and through

>>85245130
>enjoying great word of mouth

source: my ass

>>85244737
Cunt

>>85244577
isn't middle age like 35-45?

>>85244570

Like the other snyder movies, the pacing was AGAIN terrible.

Though to be honest that's a thing in general, even the recent marvel movies (and ghostbusters) had really fucking weird pacing - I wonder if there's some larger problem in the big hollywood studios with their editors right now.

>>85244737
aww shit, save me immunity cat!

>>85244499
>Source: streetshitter's twitter

civil war had a 50% fri-sat drop, but mouseketeers are desperate to control the narrative for this

>>85245643
>Plus, Kevin Feige actually likes/respects comics and knows what fans like.
Too bad Marvel Comics itself doesn't seem to care anymore.

>>85246047
19% actually. 55% Friday to Friday drop

>>85244808
Man of Steel was a good movie and BvS improved upon it. Suicide Squad was mediocre, but not bad.

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>>85246047
Source: reality, check mojo, it dropped 40.6%

>civil war had a 50% fri-sat drop, but mouseketeers are desperate to control the narrative for this
Stop this meme

>>85244737
I like kittys

>>85245961
Sounds like an episode of Always Sunny

>>85246047
It had 20% drop at most. Get your facts straight cuck

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>>85244563


there's more shit coming

>>85244737
how dare you pervert immunity cat

>>85246084
And while we're comparing comic book movies this year, Deadpool drop 10.2%, BvS 37.9% and X-Men 22.1% Fri to Sat

>>85246051

Marvel comics stopped caring after 90s and completely after MCU exploded

>>85245885
And that's why I think the critics are coming from the wrong place when reviewing these movies, consciously or not they're expecting something lighter, something less ambiguous or more tongue in cheek.

>>85245991
I wouldn't trust that source of yours because I heard it was full of shit.

>>85246127
Maybe the movies will build up on each other and improve over time?

>>85246211
>Maybe the movies will build up on each other and improve over time?
That was the plan, three films ago. It hasn't happened.

>>85246127
Oh yes, a director that hasn't done shit in ages and only got the stint because she's a woman.
A lead that can barely act or keep a meal down.
And to top it all off, it's written by a guy that has done nothing but mediocre television so far.

This shit is dead on arrival.

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>>85246175
>Critics talk about problems of editing, structure, pace, boring 3rd act and most characters being barely there

>"These poor misguided people just don't understand the genre!"

>>85246168
I wonder what the MCU will do once they run out of team events they can use for the movies
Secret Invasion is bust since no Skrulls for example.
Annihilation as the big next thing after Thanos?

>>85246247
What if we just keep throwing shit at the screen and hope for the best?
With extra quips? That's why people like Marvel, right?

>>85246249
You forgot
>story by Zack Snyder

Suicide Squad was good. The critiques are way too harsh and reek of "dats not how superheros should be". Dont get me wrong, it was a blunt, almost cheesy film but it playes the style well and had a likeable cast. Easily a B- film

>>85246267
Here.
Directed by Patty Jenkins
Produced by
Charles Roven
Zack Snyder
Deborah Snyder
Richard Suckle
Screenplay by
Allan Heinberg
Geoff Johns
Story by
Zack Snyder
Allan Heinberg
Based on Wonder Woman
by William Moulton Marston
Starring
Gal Gadot
Chris Pine
Connie Nielsen
Robin Wright
Lucy Davis
Lisa Loven Kongsli
Danny Huston
Elena Anaya
Ewen Bremner
Saïd Taghmaoui
David Thewlis
Cinematography Matthew Jensen
Edited by Martin Walsh
Production
company
DC Films
RatPac Entertainment
Atlas Entertainment
Cruel and Unusual Films
Distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures
Release dates
June 2, 2017 (United States)
Country United States
Language English
Budget $150 million[1]

>>85244577
>older people didnt like it
Is this actually surprising? Kind of obvious if you ask me

>>85246264
Just like what they'll do with Justice League?

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>>85246267
>Sucker Punch
>300: Rise of an empire

If there's anything worse than a Snyder-directed movie it's a Snyder-written movie

>>85245820
It hasn't been about comics for a couple years now. This is just a /tv/ subboard at this point.

>>85246261
>I wonder what the MCU will do once they run out of team events they can use for the movies
They are aware, and that is why they are slowing down on major events and start adding more solo films. Yes, major events are money makers, but there is only so many they have to spare. Instead Marvel plans to have lesser crossovers regularly once they have enough ongoing heroes. Something like with Antman and the Falcon.

>>85246349
That's what I was referencing, yes.

Ok REALISTICALLY, where does the DCEU stand right now and how bad is this in terms of profit? Because I think audiences are starting to get tired of WBs wild ride

>>85246029
It's a script problem and thus production problem. They began to shoot without a good finished script. Then they start editing, realize it doesn't work, order reshoots and new shoots. And patch everything together in the editing room at the end.

>>85246385
Despite the critical bashing, they're making enough money that they can keep going. They have to keep going, just like with Harry Potter.

I wonder what WB will do with these characters. I just hope they keep making more stuff with them.

I think it's quite clear at this point that DC's very existence drives these marvelfags into fits of rage.

>>85246388
For reference, ASM2 had a kinda similar situation
It's why at first MJ was supposed to be there and was even cast but then she suddenly disappeared from the movie

>>85246425
Honestly? I hope Boomerang keeps appearing in Flash solos and Harley will obviously be in Batmans solo. Not sure about Croc, would really like to see his history with the Bat

>>85246425
Everyone except the Joker and Harley will most likely be completely forgotten.

>>85246409
I wonder how long it'll take until they make a movie out of that sequel play?

>>85246358
Sucker Punch is amazing, what are you talking about?

And he helped write the 300 sequel? And you think it's bad?

>>85246331
Most older people stop going to see movies in theater. That's why this industry is so bent on pg13. Those who do really enjoy movies and a lot can watch many different kind of movies.

>>85244563
but you can't win into making a good comic. Sad!

>>85245965
Trying to make this a political question when everything is about the movie quality...

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>>85246385
Optimistically, they're breaking even on Suicide Squad at around $530 million, on a budget of $175 million. WB shareholders have to be pissed that the franchise meant to replace Harry Potter isn't doing jackshit.

Audiences in the know are gonna be wary of DC movies going forward, which isn't gonna help a Wonder Woman movie stuck right in the middle of a stacked summer 2017. The audiences who don't keep track of which superhero belongs to who, though, will continue to buy tickets to the S-List superheroes opening week before telling the people they know not to see it.

>>85244737
guf

>>85246499
>S-List
Are you using S in the meaning that it's above A or in the alphabetical order?

That's not even a severe drop, didn't The Force Awakens have a 42% drop?

I can't fathom the money it's making, although I haven't seen it yet. But this seems not to be too severe considering how big its Friday was.

Net effect of this: brings estimates back to what they were ($110M-$125M) before that retarded $140M number got taken seriously.

>>85246323
I'm not really big on Hollywood and can't remember names for shit but the only name in that cast that I recognize is Chris Pine. Is it just my ignorance or does this movie have a really low tier cast?

>>85246499
Jesus Fuck, they're releasing WW with all that shit that close to it?

This is making me suicidal.....

>>85244699
>The positive buzz
see
>>85244577

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Guys I think we should really show support to Leto given how bad he was fucked over by WB. We barely saw his performance and what he could bring to the character.

>>85246425
>I think it's quite clear at this point that DC's very existence drives these marvelfags into fits of rage.
Marvel would rather that DC stop making bad films, as the average film-goer can't tell the difference between companies and too many bad DC films will harm the entire industry.

>>85246535
I don't even know Chris Pine.

>>85244737
fucker

>>85244907
You can't. You need to have Warner sell the movie rights to a competent company or change its main executives. You can't.

>>85246526
Yes, but TFA opened to close to 120m on the Friday and pulled close to 70m on the Saturday

>>85246499
Ooooo thats sandwiched in there. Pirates could go either way, but Bad Boys 3 could hurt them, and Kingsman is going to murder them in the third week.

>>85244737
wtf man!!

>>85246575
He's Kirk in the Abrams Star Trek movies.

>>85246467
That's what i mean.

This shit was so blatanly obvious made for teens and college kids/millenials. I dont know why older people dont liked it its surprising.

>>85244499
>40% drop Friday-Saturday

hmm let's see with other Fri-Sat drops:
> AoU = 45%
> TDKR = 41%
> SW: TFA = 42%

ffs, idiots... and stop posting clickbait shit from CBM.com

>>85246512
That it's above A-list. The heroes like Batman, Superman, Spider-man. Wonder Woman to an extent. Like, people know who of her, but can't really tell you much about what she stands for.

>>85246536
WB can't move it to March or fuck over Kong: Skull Island. August is wide open, though, with just Alien: Covenant. However, I doubt WB would want to wait 12 whole months between installments when Marvel will have 3 in that time. period.

>>85246536
Guardians and Despicable Me3 are about a month away from WW and won't butt heads with it much. Pirates 5 though is the one it will be competing with big. And maybe Cars 3 too, but I don't know how big a pull Cars 3 has.

>>85244908
You do know that a big part of the problem is Warner's producers messing up with the making of the movie (and not allowing enough time for the production in Suicide Squad's case)?

>>85246572
Not really. Marvel was ingrained themselves to the public's mind. They know the difference and established themselves as reliable entertainment. I've seen numerous people that are going to watch Doctor Strange "because it's Marvel, they're usually good".

>>85245150
I think the common consensus is that the film is fundamentally flawed but it at least has energy and isn't boring unlike other DCU films. It's still probably going to have a big drop off because of reviews

>>85244737
nique bien ta mere toi

>>85246627
AoU was actually 33%. Rest are right though

>>85246029
>Like the other snyder movies, the pacing was AGAIN terrible.
Nah the pacing was solid.

There's a drop in attendance because critics shit all over it.

>>85246672
Respecte les chats tête de cul.

>>85246639
POTC is a big problem, and I'm willing to bet the Divergent might kind of reach over there too.

>>85246639
Cars 3 isnt really a big pull like other animated series, but I could see it stealing some family revenue

>>85246652
>Not really. Marvel was ingrained themselves to the public's mind. They know the difference and established themselves as reliable entertainment. I've seen numerous people that are going to watch Doctor Strange "because it's Marvel, they're usually good".
There are still people who couldn't separate the Marvel of the film studio and Marvel of Fox. That was why they changed their logo.

>>85245527
What this guy said:
>>85245581
Sequels.

It's become more relevant to care about recently because of the absolute log jam of origin stories. Almost every time I say almost because of TDKR and the atrocity known as Thor 2 I prefer a cape sequel to an origin story, because it tends to allow heroes bigger feats, more iconic archnemeses, and be less repetitive.

Ten years ago, the only real successful recent CBM series were the recent traumatic memory of Schumacher Batman, the great Spider-Man 2, and the incredible X2. Then Spidey 3 and Last Stand shat the bed, and cape sequels became less likely. They've made a comeback, so box office numbers matter.

>>85246700
Divergent might not be released. There's talks of pushing it to a TV series since the last movie didn't do so well at the box office

>>85245532
Actually they're well aware people aren't receiving these movies well and as a result they've been panicking and interfering, which has never once ended well. Hiring hacks with no good ideas doesn't help.

>>85244737
bad cat

>>85246258
Well they don't and Marvel isn't helping.

>>85246736
>Hiring hacks with no good ideas doesn't help.
>david ayer
>hack with no good ideas

>>85244737
that was creepy

>>85246700
Divergent isn't a big contender. Pirates is the only heavy hitter going against and maybe Bad Boys 3 if they don't shit the bed as sequels made a long time after the original sometimes do.

>>85244737
I hate you

>>85244499
So you're telling me that the movie is a hit and is seeing a normal drop after it opened? Good to hear.

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The ride never ends.

>Unexperienced director
>Rushed production
>Heavily touched-up script
>Story by Zack Snyder
>Script by a guy whose Wonder Woman series pitch was not good enough even for the CW.
>Gal Gadot leading a movie
>Conceived right in the middle of Snyder's dark and gritty vision and WB's emergency switch to light and upbeat
>Stacked up against Baywatch and Pirates of the Caribbean on the week before, Bad Boys III on the same week, and The Mummy and World War Z 2 on the following week

>>85244499

literally came back to /co/ just for the butthurt

#imlovinit

>>85246258
There was nothing wrong with the structure.

>>85246765
So all the other well-received cape movies, from Superman in the '70s to Raimi's Spiderman and the various Batmen, were only well received by mistake? Or are you implying the DCEU movies are the first *real* comicbook movies ever?

>>85245518
http://www.africanamericanreports.com/2016/08/suicide-squad-opening-weekend-success.html#.V6YC9Auor1w.reddit

>>85246639
I think the real issue is that amidst a bunch of really obviously big name franchises (Pirates, Transformers) and movies with big name celebrities (World War Z 2, Bad Boys III), Competition from other comic book movies(Guardians, Kingsman, Spider-man) and a goddamn Pixar movie to boot, Wonder Woman has nothing drawing audiences beyond "it's Wonder Woman! Most famous female superhero!"

Who is the movie for? Action fans will be at Bad Boys and Transformers. Adventure fans will be at Pirates. Families will be taking their kids to Cars, Despicable Me, and Barbie. Young Adults will be at Divergent or literally anything else.

>>85246331

Remember, it's "the Magnificent Seven for the Hot Topic Generation!"

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>>85244737

>>85246810
>A character disappears and then comes back with no explanation
>Subplots come and go

>No problems with the structure

Heres my biggest fear for Wonder Woman, its going to be the worst parts of both Captain America TFA and Thor. Ares isnt going to be some badass wearing armor, there wont be any mythical monsters for her to kill, and the fish out of water humor is going to be done poorly. I want to be wrong, but I dont really have much faith at this point

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Please change /co/ rules and make /co/ great again

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>Unexperienced director called to replace previous guy that dropped out due to "creative differences"
>Rushed production
>Heavily touched-up script
>Warner desperate to make the Flash their Spider-Man, the teen idol character.
>Director specifically picked because he can work with the tight schedule and available script and appeal to teens, just like Snyder in MoS.
>Apparently just retreading the TV show
>Shoehorning in Cyborg to get people to like him

>>85246827
Meanwhile an actual Magnificent Sven remake comes out this year with Chris Pratt, Denzel Washington, Ethan Hawke, and Vincent D'Onofrio.

That's not even a contest.

>>85244737
Ah fuck

>>85244737
ok

>>85246863
Are we talking about Boomerang here? Because you know the whole thing about Boomerangs right?

>>85246875
Her saying the secretary's job was slavery might be a good indication on where the movie is going.

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>James Wan is experienced with higher budget and has clout
>Script is getting a page-one rewrite
>Wants to use horror elements
>Production isn't as rushed
>Jason Momoa at least seems to have charisma
>Based Dafoe

Aquaman will save the DCEU. APOLOGIZE.

>>85246913
Wonder woman is an amazon so she probably meant Slave in a good way.

>>85246931
Who's playing mah boi Manta?

>>85246942
Rumor has it he's not in the movie.

>>85244737
I hate this shit

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This image will never stop being relevant. You can put literally any news about the DCEU in the second panel.

>>85244737
cryptic

>>85244737
Shit no

>>85246906
That if you throw them into the script you'll just mess up the order of the pages? And then if you go on with that mess the film will come out disjointed and with missing scenes? And all you'll be able to tell people will be "I just wanted to try the boomerang" ?

>>85244737
shiet

>>85245209
>that image
Manly tears wife?

I don't care about jews getting rich just post Margot robbie's hot lil butt

>>85246941
I wish, but with these writers? No BDSM hi-jinks.
>>85246957
PASS
Unless the trailers show enough Defoe.

>>85246787
Wonder Woman wasn't an Israeli bitch.

>>85246998
Actually Defoe is Arthurs advisor. Orm is going to be the main threat along with The Trench

>>85247020
You're making me feel conflicted here. I'm one of the few people who always liked Aquaman, so I might still see it though.

>>85246875
>there wont be any mythical monsters for her to kill

Suicide Squad went all in on magic with three mystical entities if you don't count the cannon fodder. I think we'll get appearances by at least one Earth God in WW maybe with a New 52 look if for no other reason than to set up the New Gods.

>>85244499
The continued failure of DC Films will cause a drain in talent. Think about it. Would you rather work on a C-Tier Character for Marvel/Disney or would you rather work on an A-List Character Movie for DC/Warner?

Its almost becoming a career suicide for this actors to appear in these movies .

>>85246974
No idiot they come back. Also it makes perfect why Boomerang would come back seeing how he has a greater chance surviving in a group then by himself.

>>85246885
>Browsing /co/ before hiding at least 50 threads and filtering 10
You're on your own m8.

>>85246833
JL is Snyder trying to do "fun" flick, the studio has cockblocked his vision. Sorta reminds me of Fox forcing Raimi to introduce venom and shit for Spidey 3. Wonder in what kid of mood Afleck will be for his solo Batman movie. Seem like he's the most affected by the critics while everyone else is okay with being the next transformers.

>>85247102
>Fox
You mean Sony.

>>85246942
DCEU's casts so far.

Wonder Woman

>Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman
>Chris Pine as Steve Trevor
>Connie Nielsen as Queen Hyppolita
>Robin Wright as General Antiope, Wonder Woman's aunt.
>Lisa Loven Kongsli as Captain Menalippe, Antiope's right-hand woman.
>Lucy Davis as Etta Candy.
>David Thewliss as Steve's commanding officer.
>Ewen Brenmner, Saiid Taghmaoui and Eugene Brave Rock as DC's Howling Commandos.
>Elena Anaya as a villain.
>Danny Huston as a villain.

Justice League

>Ben Affleck as Batman
>Henry Cavill as Superman
>Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman
>Ezra Miller as Flash
>Jason Momoa as Aquaman
>Ray Fisher as Cyborg
>Amy Adams as Lois Lane
>Jeremy Irons as Alfred
>J.K. Simmons as Commissioner Gordon
>Kiersey Clemons as Iris West
>Joe Morton as Cyborg's dad Silas Stone
>Amber Heard as Mera
>Willem Dafoe as Vulko
>Laurence Fishburne as Perry White
>Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthorberg.
>Connie Nielsen as Hyppolita.
>I'm pretty sure Viola Davis is showing up as Amanda Waller too.

Flash

>Ezra Miller as Flash
>Ray Fisher as Cyborg
>Kiersey Clemons as Iris

Aquaman

>Jason Momoa as Aquaman
>Amber Heard as Mera
>Willem Dafoe as Vulko

Shazam

>The Rock as Black Adam

>>85244737
Fine

>>85247060
What I want to see is Ares fanning the flames of war and summoning shit like Harpies or Chimeras when Wondy steps in. But knowing WB their committee will sabotage the movie

>>85244737
fuk u

>>85244737
fuck you immunity cat

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>>85246785
>normal drop
Ignorance is bliss I suppose

>>85244737
Does the first immunity cat protect me from this?

>>85247075
And where's the scene explaining his change of mind? Cut. But you guys will just accept it as it and come up with explanations to justify it. Like when in BvS you came up with the idea that the world was accusing Superman of escalating the conflict in Africa when in reality they were indeed accusing him of literally killing those soldiers, but the scene explaining why was missing

>>85244737
hate you

>>85247137
You won't. This is shaping up to rather bereft of magic stuff. They've already spoiled that the ending is Themyscira getting invaded by the WWI Nazis and a big battle between the two.

Danny Huston who everyone thought was Ares is just some general. Elena Anaya who everybody thought was Circe is just some scarred woman. Robin Wright will probably turn out to be the villain.

>>85244737
DIE

>>85246626
I'm saying that older people who go to theater cares about movies and have broader taste than usual. I've seen 50 years old watching dumb action movies or animé in theater.

>>85247279
Wait wait wait, source? Because if theres seriously no Ares in this film Im fucking mad

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>>85247279
>WWI Nazis

They're actually going with that, uh

>>85246770
David Ayer is hit and miss. He has done both End of watch and Sabotage.

>>85247330
Ares was never confirmed. He was assumed to be in it because he's Wonder Woman's go-to introductory villain and there was a split second of him in that "The DCEU will be great, you guys!" TV special.

But so far we've heard nothing about it, and there were rumors, way early into production, the villain would be evil Amazons.

>>85246127
We'll kill that too. Eventually we'll make the cucks at WB stop making movies, and then they'll shut down DC.

Based Russos literally saving comics.

>>85244737
I think such posts are reportable, not sure though

>>85247369
oh i hope someone actually calls them that in the movie

>>85245182
Are you high? Fox would have run Daredevil into the ground by now. Be happy it's back at Marvel.

>>85247330
Ares is Wonder Woman's worst fucking villain and if he's in it I refuse to go see it.

>>85244982
>timm gets put in charge
>batman is the only one who gets any action in the movies, up to and including banging his own adopted kids
>all women are forced to wear ice-cream cones on their chest because Timm can only see tits in that shape
>women become 1D and fuck their way through college even though thats not how it works

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>>85247279
WWI Nazis

>>85247443
Well its not like fucking Cheetah or Giganta is showing up. And do you really want Circe after the Suicide Squad shit?

>>85245182
>shit heap show
You mean the best live-action superhero show ever?

>>85245271
>hundreds
Ironic unintentional accuracy

>>85244982
>>85247446
You cant have Timm without Dini. Someone has to reign Timm in on his fanfic

>>85244737
>>85247418
you don't want to risk making the cat madder.

>>85244737
f

>>85247470
can't Frank the Frank. so pumped for his series.

>>85247468
Suicide Squad was good.

But Circe is also shit so no.