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>Go back and read Scott Pilgrim again.
>I'm now roughly his age.
>...I realize he's a total bastard to everyone.
>That's kind of the point of the series yeah, but damn in real life he'd have zero friends.

What was Scott's end game? How'd he manage to get all the girls when he had zero charm/personality/passion?
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Keep in mind a few things.

One, Wallace was his only real friend. Everyone else tolerated him at best.

Two, the only girls he "got" were a naive high schooler, a chick who only got with him as a rebound fling, and an old high school girlfriend looking fir nostalgia.
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>>85186239
>but damn in real life he'd have zero friends.

Not true, most people in general have friends. As long as you have a personality, good or bad, you will have friends.

I don't have any.
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>>85189453
Describe Scott's personality in 3 words. GO.
(HARD MODE) Describe 3 positive aspects of Scott's personality.
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There's been quite a few Scott Pilgrim threads lately. Not complaining though, just curious why.
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>>85190481
>(HARD MODE) Describe 3 positive aspects of Scott's personality.
That can't be done and you know it.
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>>85191201
I fucking knew it!
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>>85190481
>Describe Scott's personality in 3 words. GO.

Selfish
Lazy
Weak
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>>85186239
Most of them are just people he knows because of the music scene
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>>85190481
Selfish
Childish
Cunt

>3 positive aspects
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Good fighter?
...
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Are they friends if only you contact them to see how they're doing and they never message you?
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>>85186239
Oh noes, how can a white, extroverted, attractive, fun loving guy from middle class that play guitar have friends? IMPOSSIBLE.
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Reminder that in the movie the guy who was supposed to be the opposite of Scott is a nice guy.
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>>85193282
I mean this might help but as the series goes on it becomes clear Scott is essential the male Ramona.
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>>85193328
That was a nice touch
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>>85196392
Why does everyone hate the movie?
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>>85186468
>Wallace was his only real friend.

How could you forget best girl Kim?
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>>85190481
>can play bass/guitar passable
>good fighter
>world's greatest prep cook
Bam, there.
Wait.
>personality
Shit. Got me there. Uhh...
>he owned up to being shitty
That's about all I got.
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>>85186239
From what little I recall he was in a band which netted him two regularly associates, and through them and venues other associates.

As for the girls thing, I dunno. I guess he just knows how to strike when the iron's hot and available.
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>>85196575
Because they completely removed the earlier scenes with Nega Scott before his appearance in the finale.
Also because Michael Cera played him less like an ass and more like a pussy.
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Who here doesn't know that one asshole friend though? Picture that one asshole friend you had in college that hung around everyone even though he was a complete dick to everyone. We all had one of those friends, and I bet you anything you heard your fair share of "he's actually pretty cool once you get to know him" justifications.

The breakdown of Scott is pretty simple. He's a reasonably attractive guy who isn't outwardly abrasive. His biggest character flaws only become apparent after knowing the guy long enough. Most of the reason people even get to know him is because of his apparent OK taste in media, mild demeanor, and his ability play music. That, and the fact that most girls mistake his aloofness for blissful stupidity (ignoring the fact that it is actually disassociative behavior due to depression.) He has male friends because of his typical male behavior; he likes women and he likes to play video games and eat. He's pretty boring right off the bat which makes him an easy rebound for Ramona and a good first serious relationship (in theory) for knives.

Ramona isn't any better. She's cold, aloof, distant, and just plain mean to people she's in a relationship with. She barely has time to explain her feelings to Scott, and ditches him for Gideon (even though the mind control thing is in play, that is still an allegory for not being able to get over an ex and having them in the back of your head.) She doesn't even try and talk things out with Knives, they just start fighting each other and Ramona kind of goes along with it even though she's much older and (supposed to be) more mature than Knives.

In the end I think the moral is supposed to be "you can change if you really want to." Ramona learns how to be a better girlfriend and not a push people away when she's uncomfortable, and Scott learns to put aside his needs and wants in favor of others sometimes.
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>>85197204
I liked it for what it was.
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>>85197180
This. He really reminds me of my old "best friend" who was an amazing charmer with the ladies but a complete ass once he got comfortable with you. The one time he had a long term girlfriend I had to intervene TWICE because she'd leave his place sobbing and need someone to talk to.
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>>85197251
So did I. I have some gripes with it but I'm willing to look past them, mostly because of Edgar Wright.
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>>85197301
Seems like a lot of people loathe it though.
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>>85197321
Well, we are on 4chan. Hyperbole is our byword.
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>>85186239
and i thought total bastards had friends
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Was he really smart or really stupid?
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>>85196243
Was the artist like this growing up or something, him and the women he based ramona on got divorced so I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>85186239
Scott is not as people say he is
Fight me faggots, you know he isn't that bad, I've seen niggas do worst than scott
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>>85197932
This to be honest. I know people that have all his flaws and almost none of his virtues and still have friends.
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>>85197932
Shut up, Knives.
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>>85197781
I'd tell you if you knew the science
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>if I was Scott I'd be nicer to Stills and Wallace
>I'd treat Knives like a little treasure and go steady with her regardless of age gap
>I'd ignore Ramona and her exes
>I'd say I was sorry to Kim
>I'd focus on music and getting a better job.

I wish I was Scott Pilgrim...
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>>85198541
So do I, anon. I would kill for a friend like Wallace.
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>>85198606
I agree.
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>>85193067
No Patrick
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>>85190481
Super Mario Brothers
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>>85190911
summer kids discovering comics for the first time. Same reason there's so many Garth Ennis threads.
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>>85198606
Tbh I'd just go out with wallace if I was Scott he's the most loyal
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>tfw 24 years old and have been living in total social isolation since I've graduated highschool
>Can no longer relate to people I meet in real life
>Only had 2 "friends" in HS, and they only tolerated me
>Become universally hated on any internet forum I frequent with an identity
>Have diagnosed Aspergers

I wish I was Scott Pilgrim
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>>85201132
There is only one thing left to do: Blame everyone and everything but yourself. You'll feel much better. Hell, it may sound like I'm being ironic but it can be pretty valid and truthful.
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>>85201281
I'm in >>85201132's situation but worse and also older, and now I only blame myself. My advice is the opposite, accept that you're the only one to blame for your situation, it doesn't make anything easier but being full of hate eats your soul away.
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>>85186239
To be fair, every single character in Scott Pilgrim (with the exception of Wallace and Knives) is an unlikeable asshole. Ramona is shit so Scott deserves her.
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>Be 21 with really mild autism
>Ginger, 6'0"-5'11", blue eyed and white.
>Work out daily, cook, try to play guitar like Robert Fripp
>Friendly, love fun and helping others.
>Deal with depression and social fears when I'm alone

I wish I was Scott Pilgrim
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>>85201364
>accept that you're the only one to blame for your situation
Contrary to societies popular belief; It isn't 100% your fault for your situation. Outside factors can contribute to your downfall.
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>>85201281
I'll be totally honest.
It was a great relief finding out I had Aspergers. I've always felt like something was overshadowing the entirety of my life, and when I found out what it was, I pinned all of my personal failures on it. It has eliminated any need for change. I feel that human beings are pre-programmed to have a core personality, and all variance throughout life is just a nuance of that core.

I really don't believe we have any free will.

It doesn't feel like I've ever had any.
There's always a stimulus, and I always react a certain way.

I don't contemplate suicide because I love my mother. I don't know what I'll do when I finally become separated from my immediate family.
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>>85201487
I've had ample time to think about it and reason led me to accept that I am the only one to blame. If your case is different, good for you. If it isn't, just accept it, whatever.
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>>85198541
>Want to be Scott
>Thinking about it, I'm actually Neil

Damn
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Nah, bunch of assholes have tons of friends.

All you need is a personality to bounce off of to have friends. People who don't talk, do anything or try to stand out are those who don't have friends.
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>>85201500
Some people need to accept that their life was already chosen for them just when they were born. With your Aspergers...your brain is defective. Broken. It's neurons built correctly. And other people can just make it worse for you. Because they couldn't guide you the way they should have.

>>85201565
Sometimes it's hard to accept that your situation is from the contribution of others and not just yourself. Because maybe if they weren't around or maybe they were better people: Your fate would have been different. MAYBE.
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>>85201720
Neil is great, don't complain.
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>>85198541
>>85201468
Congrats Anon, you sound identical to Scott Pilgrim without being an asshole.
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>>85201758
I think it's less about assholes having friends, and more like people see these relationships from an outside perspective and don't know they're just kidding and clowning around.

I call my best friend a degenerate for being a homosexual. I've gotten a lot of flack for from his other "sort of" friends, until they understand it's mostly in jest. Mostly.
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>>85201782
>It's
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>>85190481
1.Michael
2. Cera
3. Uncut
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>would give anything to have a full animated series

It's not fair, it would literally save adult swim.
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>>85186239
Wallace and Steven are his only real friends. He and Wallace are assholes to each other but that's part of their friendship and he and Steven seem to be on good terms with one another. Kim tolerates him in the hopes he'll grow up one day. Lis hasn't seen him in forever and still sees him the way she did in highschool. Knives is obessive, andYoung Neil is basically a smaller and nicer version of Scott and hangs around Steven and Kim. Julie treats him the way he deserves to be treated. Ramona and Envy are both shitty people like Scott and they gravitate towards each other
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>>85202838
Did Knives know how to dance? That scene at the beach always struck me as odd.
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>>85202838
>tfw you watch the animated short and know there will never be a continuation of it
I don't even care if it ended up being a complete rehash of the books, it would have been fantastic.
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>>85202890
She's asian, so she's automatically pro at DDR. That's gotta count for something.
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>>85202912
>>85202890
It would literally the comfiest thing ever. It could take place in HS for all I care
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>>85202880
>He and Wallace are assholes to each other

Confirmed for not actually reading the comic.

Wallace did nothing wrong.
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>>85186239
Convince me as to why I should read this /co/

>the art looks like shit
>it looks and sounds like pretentious hipster shit
>he movie was fucking awful
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>/co/ shitting on Scott
Yeah he's a dick but by the end he's on his way to becoming a decent human being who cares about people
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So will Bryan Done with Scott right? How's snot girl anyways Seconds was great but I heard snot girl sucked
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>Envy & Lisa will never get a spinoff

Why live
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>>85203018
You're objectively an awful person and you deserve it.
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>>85203018
It's a funny, and as much of a piece of shit Scott is its fun to read his interactions with everyone else considering he's an over enthusiastic asshoke whose dating a equally terrible Romana still it's pretty good
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>>85203018
Same here. Saw the movie and thought it was ok. The comic does sound lackluster and the characters sound unlikable
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>>85203147
>You're objectively an awful person and you deserve it

But I'm not Scott Pilgrim
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>>85203222
How can you be sure if you don't read it
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>>85186239
I have a lot of anti-social friends who logically should be hating Scott Piligrim, he represents that asshole who is asshole, but well-liked by society.

Amazingly, both normies and anti-social people love this shit, it's magic.
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>>85203174
>>85203018
I'd say it's one of those things that you should read when you're young, you'd probably find it more tolerable then, hell, you might even find it charming, so when you get older, you come to realize that the main character is an incredibly flawed piece of shit, and grow to appreciate it more.
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>>85203300
By reading the OP post ya dummy

>>85203470
>read when you're young
I'm 23, I am beyond the limit
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>>85196575
its too short
but given the length, they really did their best to do the whole story so it wasn't really that bad
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he doesn't have friends
he has a roommate and band mates who don't care enough to get a new member
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>>85196575
Because the focus is not on character but on action, it is something entirely different from the comic.

It is a good ADAPTATION, but people seem to dislike the fact it's not a carbon copy of the comic, which would have ended up terrible.

It's as good as it could have been.
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>>85203018
Todd Ingram.
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>>85203018

He got a qt chinese kissless highschool girlfriend. Then he dumps her like a jerk and you can do the same with comic.
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>>85203960
I want a qt kissless High School Chinese girlfriend...
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>>85204099

I wanted a pale goth black-lipstick pure gf. Life is a bitch.
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>>85204295
Oh hi pan
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>>85186239
If you pay attention, the reason pretty much anyone hangs out with him is out of obligation. He hangs out with his bad because he's part of the band, and he just sort of tags along. Note how he's so divorced from his friend's lives that he doesn't know who Jason Kim is, or that he's dating his friend Kim Pine. He otherwise just hangs out with people after recording sessions, practice sessions, parties or just runs into them.

The only tiimes people actually hang out with him out of choice is that day at the beach at book 4, and when during book 6 when its clear he needs help
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>>85202890
I really want to see Knives dancing now... Good job
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>>85202973

They'd have to get a new crop of VAs though. No way they can afford the cast of the movie these days unless they wanted to come back.
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>>85205969
Ellen Wong's career is dead. I'm sure she'd do it for $4 an hour.
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>>85197204
Dunno. I read the comics way before the movie and I got more of a puss-out vibe from him than anything intentionally assholish. If he was an asshole it was due to him being a pussy.
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>>85190481
Funny, smart, Canadian.
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>>85186468
>One, Wallace was his only real friend. Everyone else tolerated him at best.

I dunno, Kim was basically his grumpy rock of moral support the whole time. He didn't deserve either one of them.
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>>85197781
Neither. He's a rock star.
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>>85206598
>Scott being smart
Ehhh I wouldn't give him that much credit.
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>>85202890
Yeah, she joins the dance fight in the first volume. And seems to be the only one just happy to be participating in something so awesome.
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>>85203222
Shut up Scott, we know its you
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>>85206966
God why is she so perfect?
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>See a post on Tumblr about Scott saying "ex boyfriends" because he keeps forgetting about Roxie.
>They mention "heteronormativity" and bi-erasure" when referring to a dumb, simplistic joke.
>MFW
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>>85206936
He completed college, so he must at least have above average intelligence
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>>85202945
Well she was pretty kick ass at the ninja DDR clone in the movie. Sooo I think so.
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>>85207025
Catholic Chinese schoolgirl ninja powers
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>>85197266
you sound like a cuck.
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>>85186239
>How'd he manage to get all the girls when he had zero charm/personality/passion?
>...I realize he's a total bastard to everyone.

You answered your own question, really. Women aren't exactly smart, much less video game women.
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>>85189453
>>85189453


>Not true, most people in general have friends. As long as you have a personality, good or bad, you will have friends.

W-well
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>>85202838
I like the cute oldies aesthetic that her swimsuit gives. I dare say that (and her looks) gave me a boner.
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>>85207184
>being on tumblr
>caring about what other people on tumblr say this much

Also, I definitely agree on anons. Scott Pilgrim bred this sort of generation and subgroup of people who found the comics and movie fantastic and wanted to be like the main characters, only to grow up and get older and realize they were assholes and purposefully written as such. We were all just too dense and wrapped up in their supposed coolness to realize it.
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>>85202890
Everyone in Canada goes through dance training. It's basically a core class like math or science.
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>>85186239
>have to interact with a scott daily
>even down to the gay friend and high school fling
>either naive or just thinks it's bantz when I or almost any of us give him shit over his life choices
Why do these fuckfaces have friends? Circumstance. At least 4 of us talk shit to his face and about him when he's not around, but we don't just leave him. Maybe we care too much about him fucking his life up royal.
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>>85206398
>Ellen Wong's career is dead.
A shame, she was the highlight of the film.
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>>85212344
Uh. Stephen Stills?
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>>85186239
Because in real life there are tons of complete assholes who have a bunch of friends

Having friends is just a result of being outside working somewhere or going to school and being social enough to carry more than one conversation until you develop a mutual friendliness towards one another
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>>85197266
>The one time he had a long term girlfriend I had to intervene TWICE
>M'lady
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>>85209844
>>85212773
>implying you have to want to fuck her to at least give her an ear to vent to
I've honestly done the same thing before. Would I fuck her, hell no. I've see the kind of decisions she makes and what she'll do when she doesn't get her way. Too much hassle.
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>>85197048
Did Kim really do anything friendly until volume 5 or so, though? She seemed to hold Scott in thinly veiled contempt until she got a lesbian crush on Ramona.
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>>85207271

Bro I don't think the two necessarily correlate with each other.
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>>85209844
I don't care for cuckoldry, but yeah I was a pathetic bitch then. Less now but still pretty wussy.
>>85212773
SHE came to ME, I was around a lot and she needed someone to talk to.

>>85212824
I definitely wanted to fuck her, but this was many years ago and I was too blind to see I should have told him to fuck himself since I was taking over for him in that department.

Whatever, friendship with that guy is long over, and I still see her once in a while, even meet up occasionally, we're friends but I think we are both just glad to be rid of him and don't want to hang out too much because we'd really rather not think about him.
Is she hot? Yes, still looks right out of high school and has the cutest freckles, but holy shit I can't look at her without thinking about him so nope, no thanks.
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>>85212862
Naw, she was always around supporting him in that way of close friends, telling him off when he needed it and telling him to git gud.
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>>85186239
well for one he was always there when his friends asked him out. Even though he hated Julie's parties and never drank he went to every one of them.
He played in the band and never got angry at stills for changing bands, he just accepted it.

He helped Kim move when she asked.

Also,

Kim was a vindictive bitch.

Stephen abandoned his friends.

Neil made no time for his friends outside of his own house, then got mad people stopped asking.

Julie was obsessed with her self image and being the popular kid.

Knives was obsessive and violent.

Ramona was cold and distant,


The point of the story is people aren't all perfectly good or complete ass holes but lie somewhere between.
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Did Stephen Stills cheat on Julie with Joseph?
When I first read this I though Knives and Stephen Stills were banging.
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>>85212344
Dude, you are literally Young Neil. Ask the Scott guy if he has a cute sister.
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>>85186239
> I have depression and anxiety
>I'm in my early 20s
>No job
>Living with parents
>I play the bass, I'm white with red hair
>ENFJ
>I normally hang out with my best friend on weekends
>Attempting to get a bachelor's degree

Damn it feels good to be Scott Pilgrim.
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>>85214938
>Living with parents
>Attempting to get a bachelor's degree
Nice try. You have to be NEET and living with a homo.
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>>85203470
That's interesting because that's the exact thing I did. I started reading it in high school and didn't realize Scott was such a dick until the series was wrapping up.
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>>85214663
He has a couple
I ain't fucking with them though. They're cute, but they're cute trailer trash.
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>>85215532

I thought Scott's family was affluent.
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can someone link the desuarchive to Volume 3? i'll resume my way thru the series from there
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>>85204929
pan would want a loli goth girl that guys a fucking faker.
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>>85206398
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