Literally why is she a hooker now instead of a clown?

the Arkham games mostly

>>85165601
More relatable to modern audiences

>>85165635
/thread

>>85165601
she's a clown that looks like a hooker, not a hooker that looks like a clown. when was the last time you saw a hooker who had clown makeup, nigga?

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>>85165601
Are you saying clowns can't be hookers?

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>>85165601
related

>>85165601
Think with Suicide Squad's bad business we'll get her back to her old costume? Maybe get a decent writer on her?

>>85165763
Why would they change anything about her comics? Sure it's terrible, but it's one of their best selling comics right now, so clearly no one cares.

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>>85165738

>slut shaming

>>85165601
Feminism
>Feminists now argue that a woman revealing her private parts in a risque way and dressing like a prostitute is now considered female empowerment.

...
What?.jpg

>>85166073
only if that woman spouses the correct political rethoric and keeps the narrative safe

Harley hasnt been Harley for some time now. Did it start in nu52?

>>85166463
I haven't really been into Harley outside of timmverse.

>>85166009
>imaginary characters drawn by men
>slut shaming

>>85165738
>fictional characters have feelings
>target demographic being men who grew up fapping to Harley

do people not know how to read between the lines, or do they judge EVERYTHING from face value? like seriously, whatever the gov'ts been putting in the water supply is super effective lately.

>>85165601
Most people know her from the Arkham games not that ancient batman cartoon.

>>85166073

Pretty much all of GG and probably most of 4chan don't get this but it's very different when it's women doing it than when randy old dudes are drawing women like that.

>>85165601
Shes always been one, she just got a better costume

>>85166837
Arkham she's still more a clown than someone that looks like they smell like a hospital dumpster.

>>85166009
Right? That was one of Aaron Diaz's earliest attempts at purportedly feminist work just pissing feminists off. 5 years later and he hasn't learned anything.

>>85165601
People like cheap hookers.

>>85165601

She's obviously a clown hooker.

>>85165738
>the wolfman, just there

That one was pretty good.

>>85166852
That's sexist yo!

>>85165601
because its profitable

how many times am I gonna see this thread on /co/?

>>85165738
Doesn't Aaron Diaz have a nice collection of mostly naked female protagonists?

>>85168102
But they CHOOSE to be naked. Its different!

Honka honka

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>>85168167
Remember. Women should be allowed to choose what they want to wear, but men shouldn't be allowed to draw what they want to draw.

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>>85165601
Originally she was simply designed to be a slightly sexualized pun-themed hench-goon in a children's cartoon, when they expanded her backstory to make her a brainwashing victim in "mad love" with "Mr.J." but then somebody decided that the Joker's love slave shouldn't be that wholesome...
So they reimagined her brainwashing as less Joker exploiting her undiagnosed insanity and more as Joker pimping her out.
This might make more real-world sense, but they're fucking comics, there was no need to sexualize her victimization. The idjits at DC should have known that.

>>85169855
>idjits
it's "edjit" you fucking yankee

>>85165601
Because its empowering for girls.

>>85165684
When was the last time you saw Harley wear clown make up?

>>85165738
I'd read this.

>>85165684
When I paid one to.

Why the hell are we still pretending her original outfit wasn't SKIN TIGHT and that she was all about getting joker to "rev up his harley" and appearing naked covered in cream? Her design has changed but she was always a slutty clown

>>85165601
She's a hot topic goth girl, or sometimes a roller derby queen.

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>>85166852
No it isn't

>>85171057
I mean, it is insofar as one is about real women making a choice about the display of their own bodies, while another is about men pandering to other men with drawings of fake women wearing stuff the men find sexy.

Neither is inherently wrong, but one is driven by female self-image and one by male sexual gratification. That should be pretty obvious on the face of it. I agree that saying all sexualization of women is bad is a farcical proposition, but let's be intellectually honest about this.

>>85170958
That's the problem, now she's just slutty.

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>>85165738
>>85167725
Wolfman seems pretty happy.

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>mfw clowns are my fetish

>>85171149
That's like complaining about all the OBVIOUS pandering to the female fans , what with al the abs and the shirtless scenes ALL male characters get, yet you never see some faggot telling a female writer to turn down the fanservice

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>>85165684
>hooker in clown makeup

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I just want the clown girl back in the tights and just doing simple but enjoyable plots like in Mad Love and Harley & Ivy.

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>>85171285
>implying there aren't people on /co/ who complain about this

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What the fuck is this design suppose to be?

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>>85165601
>he's never hired a hot clown for a "children's party" that doesn't exist and paid them to fuck instead

>>85171531
A Harlequin

>>85171531
why the random green?

>>85171531
Vaguely "olde timey" sexy cosplay loosely themed around a jester.

But it's shit, regardless.

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Now I know why people hated animated Killing Joke

>>85171617
Still a better costume than most that she's worn lately. Shame her Joker is even more abusive than the norm, what with his exaggerated sex drive and rapey tendencies.

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>>85170958
Right, she was slutty, AND a clown. There were two parts to her design.
Imagine if you took Hawkman, a buff shirtless guy with a mace who's part hawk. Then you take away the hawk part so he's just a buff shirtless guy with a mace, but he's still supposed to be Hawkman.
Now imagine this change suddenly made him one of DC's most popular characters. Do you see why this would be annoying?

>>85171531
It's 100 times more Harlequin themed than what we've been getting lately, at least.

>>85165601
The DC writers are all 14.

>>85171149
Is Harley redesign headed by a woman?

>>85165601
Hookers are cooler than harlequins

>>85166569
So Margot Robbie was drawn by a man, too?

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>>85171234

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>>85165601
makes her easier to fap to

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>>85165684

There hookers who DON'T wheat clown makeup?

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>>85165738
To be fair, Carol flies around by the power of her magic glowing vagina.

>>85166009
Sluts should be shamed.

>>85165601
Hookers are sexier. Sluts for hire.

>>85166569
>>>/tumblr/

>>85168102
>Aaron Diaz
I thought that looked familiar.

>>85173307

Is this really in the movie?

>>85173538
I imagine there are, since you can't wheat things

I'd rather her look like her own thing instead of just a female Joker.

>>85174218
No, they edited out the bra. You should know that, that scene is the focus of every trailer.

>>85174218
Of course not, this is a children's movie. 13 year olds aren't allowed to see breasts, it would damage their fragile minds.

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>>85174409
I'll wheat whatever I want, whenever I want

>>85171828
Hawks wings are part of a power set, did Harley's old costume give her clown powers?

>>85165601
Clown porn has gone mainstream

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>>85171828
This is the dumbest thing I'll probably read all month. Incredible.

>>85175152
Now you know my feelings on new Harley.

>>85175067
Hawkman' wings are almost completely cosmetic. They help steer a bit, but the flying is all done by his belt.

>>85165601
again this thread?

>>85165738

>character whose whole gimmick is that's she's a dumb bimbo evil whore
>fucked her way trough school
>'wanna try my pie mr j'
>wanted to fuck bruce wayne

why are normies surprised harley is a megaslut?

I'm just glad she doesn't have red and black hair anymore.

>>85175224
No. I honestly can't fathom your level of retardation, anon. I'm sorry.

>>85173650
Yeah.

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>>85175806
Duo toned hair is the best though.

>>85176013
>duo toned hair
>duo toned eyes
Oh look, my fetish.

>>85171684
>Shame her Joker is even more abusive than the norm

What's the 'norm' with Joker?

>>85176106
>What's the 'norm' with Joker?
Muh Batman TAS. Don't you see, anon? If anything diverges from the almighty Word of TAS, it is considered sacrilege. TAS IS LOVE, MASK OF THE PHANTASM IS LIFE.

>>85176151
FUCK YEAH, PREACH! FUCK YOU DC FOR RAPING MY CHILDHOOD!

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>>85171531

It's good. Not as good as her alt.

Pic related

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>chatting with a normie friend about the Suicide Squad trailer
>she says that she's excited to see the movie, but shes not happy how Harley looks because 'Harley Quinn was never a slut!'

>>85175818
You should be sorry if you can't even handle a simple analogy.

>>85171149
But the woman only feels empowered because men find it sexy.

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>>85176915
A classy slut perhaps, the movie one just looks like a drug dealer's bitch or something. But I guess it also works since Joker just looks like some goofy drug dealer anyways.

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Who care, Harley is a shitty waifu fag character anyway.

Noone would give a shit about her if she wasn't hot.

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>>85165601
>Stockholm Syndrome - The Character becomes an overnight sensation the moment she gets a skimpy redesign

>An actual strong female character will never reach mainstream appeal simply because one aspect of her design is deemed "problematic"

What a time to be alive. I will never understand modern pop culture.

>>85177088
>I will never understand modern pop culture.
No one reads comics.

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>>85177066
My waifu sells better than yours.

>>85165635
yep, the slutty harley trend began with Arkham City and DC changed her design with the new52 to match.

>>85171531
Pirate Hooker...clown?

>>85177170
>yep, the slutty harley trend began with Arkham City and DC changed her design with the new52 to match.

No

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I just think it's kind of a shame. The 'jester/harlequin' aesthetic is completely lost. Harley was always a sexual and slutty character, but she also had a childish sweetness to her design and the theme was clearly 'cute jester girl'.

She looks more like a juggalo now.

>>85177066
This
The only reason people love her is because she appeared in the batman animated series we all love

>>85177135
>no on reads
FTFY

>>85165601
Ah yes because a skin tight outfit is way less slutty than short shorts.

Harley has always been a bit slutty. Her first ever appearance she dressed like a sexy cop. Or was it a delivery girl outfit? Fuck I gotta rewatch Btas

>>85176915
>having normie friends

>>85176973
Right. Empowered as in power over men.

>>85165635
This. Arkham Asylum started the whole trend with the nurse uniform.

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>>85177043
There's really no competition on how much better and more sexual her old costume would be in real life.

>>85172612
daily reminder that /v/ tried to convince her to do porn and she couldnt get work anymore because of it

I want my slutty clown, not a slutty slut.
Even just a slutty slut clown is fine.

>>85179261
>>85177043

who the fuck looks at her BTAS costume and thinks it must be made of shiny latex

>>85179291

was the porn good at least?

>>85177043
>A classy slut perhaps
No such thing.

>>85179751
Latex fetishists.
Duh.
>>>/s/16880587

I haven't tried to crossboard link in ages, forgive me if I fucked this up

>>85179769
there was no porn

the girl lost her career as a birthday clown for nothing

>>85179961

if she didn't do the porn how did it ruin her career?

>>85175087
Push you and I wish.

>>85179751
Tim Burton probably.

>>85176973
>people really think this

>>85165601
A failure in both

>>85171149
>/co/mblr
>intellectual honesty

Lol. Wrong place for that.

>>85179980

Her association with the whole story, in the sense that her pictures get passed around as fap material.

>>85165635
arkham city and that dlc in knight did it right though

>>85180448

how does that ruin careers? the same thing happens to any moderately famous woman

>>85172516
The costume was, nice try.

>>85180488
>how does that ruin careers?

Maybe ask Erin from esurance.

>>85172612
>>85179291
Literally who?

>>85165601
Emma Frost would say it's empowering.

>>85176106
>>85176151
>>85176186

Joker isn't normally depicted as a rapist. The bulk of his history in any media, even in the grimmer tone that pervaded during and since Harley was introduced, has not implied a great deal of overt sexuality (let alone sexual violence) in the Joker's behaviour.

Prove me wrong.

>>85174599
Yeah, they'd have to rent Wolf of Wall Street for $1 to see that

>>85166073
Fuck no! Don't go blaming feminists for what those filthy fappers want her to be.
She looks like a hooker because sex sell and DC decided to rely on it. Feminists part came when they compensated her stupid design with her owning herself deciding not to take anymore of Joker's bullshit.

>>85177141
Why is Harley a midget in this pic? Look at her face and the proportions of her arms, that's a midget if I ever saw one.