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Why are cartoons and comics aimed at girls so rare? Is there

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Why are cartoons and comics aimed at girls so rare? Is there really no market?

We have girl aimed books, live action shows, and movies but cartoons... Japan has a bunch of series aimed at girls but it feels like 80% of all female aimed western cartoons are aimed at six year olds. What about older girls?
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>>85159038
God, they were all so fuckable, weren't they?
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comics aimed at non nerds are already quiet rare
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>>85159038
Because women don't deserve it, they don't deserve happiness, they all deserve to be emotional husks who just stand there being quiet.
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>>85159038
Sexist marketers think older girls won't buy related merch, whereas younger girls and their moms are supposedly the biggest suckers for junk product out there.
There is literally the feeling WHY PRODUCE FOR OLDER GIRLS WHEN YOUNGER GIRLS ARE BEST AUDIENCE EVER.
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>>85159801
>Sexist marketers think older girls won't buy related merch, whereas younger girls and their moms are supposedly the biggest suckers for junk product out there.
Because they are
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Does Totally Spies count? Some of the jokes in that would likely go well over the head of younger viewers. Then again, I'd question whether it's for girls at all, given the fact it's about 3 teenagers in rubber outfits getting tied up regularly.
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>>85159801
> I blame marketers for doing their job and targeting more profitable demographics, because older girls do not justify enough merchandise to warrant the risk

It's not the patriarchy, older males dished out dollars on children's crap until they made stuff for us. Women just sitting around hitching again instead of affecting change.
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>>85159216

1. Girls can be nerds
2. Most cartoons are aimed at kids, not nerdy kids
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>>85159900
its just French. its what they do. That said, Totally spies feels more general child audience than just girls. I enjoyed it when I was younger and Im a dude. Bot some other more fairy themed shows tend to go more for girs
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>>85159993
>1. Girls can be nerds
No, they can't, they're fucking too shallow and stupid
Fuck's sake even most 'men' now a days can't be nerds anymore.
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>>85159837

Why can't they make merchandise tweens and teens like? Notebooks, pencils, clothes, handbags, etc.
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>>85159038
Because feminists, both the sensible ones as well as the tumblr-tier ones, have had it all wrong from the beginning: Girls don't like casts full of girls.

They like casts full of men.

Men being best friends with other men and fighting and enduring hardship together.
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>>85160159
Because teenage girl's money is dirty money, it is foul, no one of any real integrity would accept it.
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>>85159038
It might require more sophisticated shows that teenage girls would be interested in.
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>>85160074
What even makes somebody a nerd these days? I always see people who are interested in video games or anime identifying themselves as nerds or geeks but they never really seem to understand the derogatory connotations those terms carry.
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>>85160328
Forgot to finish my sentence: there doesn't seem to be much interest in or capability to make such shows.
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>>85160229
>They like casts full of men.

This is what baffles me when women ask for more women in things.

I'd rather have better male characters (as in "allowed to have personalities other than generic action hero guys") and more variation on male body types.

>>85160159

No, fuck that. Make good quality toys. I'm sick of japan trying to sell me a million clear files and keychains, I don't need the west doing so as well.
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>>85160335
There ISN'T anymore, there are no new nerds, just fucking pretenders who don't deserve their own balls
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You don't need things to be "aimed" at girls, they just watch the same things as dudes.

See >>85159900 , I watched that when I was a kid and I'm a dude. Kids don't really care because most cartoon aren't aimed that much at either sex.
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I want a Jem reboot cartoon but the movie killed any chances of that.

>>85160426

Most fourteen year old girls don't want toys. Heck, most twelve year olds don't.
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>>85160335
"Nerd" was just replaced with "autist."
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>>85160426
Japan wouldn't be making clear files and keychains if there wasn't a point to it. Betting your entire merchandising on figures is not a sound idea.
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>>85160335
Same as always, someone dedicated to a subject they enjoy.

The people calling themselves nerds/geeks today are only in it for the social aspect, they don't really care about the subject itself.
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>>85159038
Oh, didn't know W.I.T.C.H was still in print, do they still have that magic schoolbus?
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>>85160657

> still in print

it isn't, it finished last year iirc.
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>>85160657

I think it ended but that was a reprint
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>>85160711
>>85160739
>>85160711
Ok, I just assumed since the picture had 2016 on it, my bad.
I stopped reading right after the new power arc, didn't like the episodic direction they started.

The first arcs though, definitely among my favorite comics.
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>>85159038
It's a bad business move. The older girl demographic is small and already dominated by anime and manga.
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Because any large media form is going to have its fair share of adult men that religiously follow it, but for media for girls it's not very likely.
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>>85161035

There's a reason older girls like anime. It's because they have stuff aimed at them. Why go watch Strawberry Shortcake when you can watch Sailor Moon?
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>there´s no HD scans of Witch
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>>85161048

Do people think girls do nothing but stare at space forever? They don't watch tv?
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>>85160229
Shoujo manga/anime seems to mostly favor a female protagonist with a mixed cast. That's the stuff that's actually aimed at teenage girls, and it's popular.

Fujoshi don't represent all female manga and anime fans.
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>>85161426
>They don't watch tv?

Have you seen The Bachelor? Because that's the kind of stuff the typical teen girl watches.
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>>85161426
Maybe they're really into astronomy.
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>tfw no magical girl Rainbow Brite remake

>>85161711

I don't know anyone who watches that stuff. By that logic, boys would rather play COD then watch cartoons.

There's a niche everywhere . Most fandoms have a lot of teenage and tweenage girls.
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>>85161426
They use that time to learn how to cook and take care of a husband, like any sensible girl should
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>>85159038
Wooowww... must've borrowed my sisters WITCH comics so many times just to fap to the cover in my teen-years.
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>>85159038
Because girls will buy "boys stuff" but boys don't buy "girl stuff"
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awkwardly it's Sitcoms that mostly try to aim at girls not only that Nick is making live action shows that mostly aim at girls
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>>85160525
Toys... no, but plush things, keyrings, phone cases, shirts, those crappy vinyl shoulder bags, all that associated brand shit tends to sell really well.

Yet toy companies seem to still call the shots.
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>>85159038
We have merch for girls out there. What rare is an adventure show where a female protagonist endures hardships and other stuff.
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>>85159038
There's no girls and boys market anymore, everyone watches everything on these days.
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>>85162786

And? Not everything needs to be geared at guys.
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>>85163347
Creatively, no. But if you can target half the market really well and get some of the other half or you can target one half really well and get none of the other half, then as capitalist products, they have to go with the former.
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>>85159837
I don't think you all realise how obsessed older teens and women can get with their merch. The amount I have is quite staggering, same with all the girls I know who attend comic-cons.
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We need more magical girl inspired series. Lots of cartoons like Steven Universe, Rainbow Brite, WITCH, Star Vs, and Winx Club are inspired by them yet magical girl anime are rarely dubbed anymore. There hasn't been one on American tv since Doremi and Tokyo Mew Mew. I don't get why girl animed cartoons and animes are so hard to air on tv.
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>>85159205
That's Barbucci for ya.
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>>85160229
Those are the worst.
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cuz there arent as many girls who are autistic nerds as boys.
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>>85169599
oh, there's a lot of them
but they go to anime and manga rather than cartoons and comics, generally
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>>85162786
Then explain /mlp/

Or any thread on /toy/ about Girl Merch.
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>>85159038
I fapped so much to Irma as a teenager. I took my little sister's Witch comics and masturbated over and over again. At least a hundred times. And nobody ever knew.
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>>85171207
You're the best, around.
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>>85161179
This is the best I have, anon. http://z8.invisionfree.com/WITCH_comics/index.php?showtopic=2
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>>85162786
But i like to read shoujo manga sometimes.
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>>85165856
Why anime needs to get dubbed when you can just watch it in online with subs.
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>>85162770
They're totally spies level stuff. Hell I liked witch when I was 14 because the girls were pretty, but I'd hide it from everyone even tough I'm sure plenty of guys in my school also liked it
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>>85171207
Cornelia and Will were my favorites (still are), except when Cornelia became a coal burner
So
>Marry : Will or Hay Lin
>Fuck : Taranee or Irma
>Kill : Cornelia (Coalburner)
Also will step-dad is literally the luckiest guy in the world
Hell, one of this days I'm gonna do the great witch story time
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>>85159038
Girls are better readers, so they starts earlier on that front. Boys are generally more visual oriented so its just something that's easier to market towards boys than girls.
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What are some comics and cartoons aimed at adolescent girls? What type of 'girl' are we talking about? A Flash Thompson, a Peter Parker or something else?
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>>85175986
Persepolis
Anya's Ghost
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>>85159038

Because thinking this way proves you're a total retard.

You need to be a total retard to think that there's kind of stories more appealing to some people regarding their gender.

When something is good, it is loved by everyone whatever they're girls or dudes.

If it's shit, no one will like it, Flawless equation.

And so "stories aimed at girls" are complete romantical garbages most of the time that's why no one likes them.
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>>85159216
>comics aimed at non nerds are already quiet rare

Anglo problems. Everywhere else, kids are the largest market.
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Women usually don't have any hobbies. No point in marketing something toward them
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>>85165856
Those fanbase are usually cancers and mostly attracts gay/trans/degenerates "peoole"
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>>85159038
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>>85177013

Is the concept of demographics absurd to you? Some stuff are just not unisex aimed. Jem and Strawberry Shortcake are aimed at girls. Ben 10 and Transformers are aimed at boys. It doesn't mean you can't like Jem if you're a boy or you can't like Transformers if you're a girl. It just means they're aimed at different demographics.

The problem is when companies backlash against people outside their demographic. Many cartoons get canceled because a lot of girls like it.
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>Why are cartoons and comics aimed at girls so rare? Is there really no market?
Nigga what? Disney's princesses ring a belle?
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>>85171207
Same here, i think this comic kickstarter my growth feticism.
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>>85174970
>They're totally spies level stuff.

That's an insult to WITCH.
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>>85178321
>Many cartoons get canceled because a lot of girls like it.
Like what?
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>>85179000
Not cancellation, but lots of shows had to go through changes to appease certain criteria. Motorcity for example, originally had Tennie as a main character and a Burner (along with one more chick) which would've meant a 1:1 female:male ratio in the group. But, they were forced to bring it down to one female character (our Julie) because the original idea would've had "too many girls in a boys' show".
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>>85179000

Young Justice for example.
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>>85180964
>>85180858
Sounds like bullshit.
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>>85180995
If I could find the source from Chris Prynoski himself on the Motorcity thing, I would. I'll try and post later if I find it.
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>>85180858
Someone posted book by a guy who worked on WITCH cartoon among other thing. Apparently producers were insane in their desire to avoid making it too girly.
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>>85161711
>Have you seen The Bachelor? Because that's the kind of stuff the typical teen girl watches.
No they aren't. They're watching the drama shows on CW and Mtv. They don't care about the reality shows their middle age parents watch in the evening.
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>>85169866
Because of fetishes. Some men will buy anything they can jerk off to. Sometimes that includes effeminate cartoon ponies or busty figures of cute anime girls.
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>>85181033
>>85180995
>>85180858
Found it. Generally reading through his asks makes me mad at just what Motorcity could have been.
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>>85181329
Does that have to do with this particular part or just how it went in general? Didn't it got cut short in any case?
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>>85160605
How can you tell if someone is "in it for the social aspect" or actually enjoys it?
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>>85182190
Not the anon you're talking to but, speaking from personal experience, I find it's the person who seems more interested in letting you know they like something (a video game, a comic book character, whatever) rather than actually talking about it.
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>>85159038
>Older female marketing
Maybe reboot Daria?
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>>85181295
Hey i have busty anime girl figurines and i like them in my shelf
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>>85182190
>>85182518
Being into something because you like hanging out with people IST VERBOTEN.

We gotta defend the sacred halls of Bowling from those damn casuals, I tell you.
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>>85159038
>mfw competent non-attenionwhoring scanlation with proper raws will never happen
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So many current girl cartoons are webtoons that ripoff Monster High and Ever After High.
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>>85182190
Its like talking to a "huge marvel nerd xd" when all they know of is the movies.
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