Thanks, Michael Bay...

Oc do not steal, buy chevy camaro zl1

>>85138663
Damn, looks better than G1 Rod

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>>85138762

>>85138663
Looks good to me

It's a repaint kek.

>>85138780
Why is it bait? It's legit better designed.

>>85138663
I fail to see the problem here

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>>85138663
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That looks worse than Lockdown. Needs more kibble. Did they lose Josh Nizzi or something

>>85138821
Not really a repaint but he has fatter limbs than Bee.

>>85138663
Honest question: does anyone really give a shit about the Bayformers series? Critics despise them for being terrible, I assume Transformers fans despise them for completely shitting on the franchise, and it seems like the vast majority of its audience is only there for a two hour distraction explosion filled distraction in an air conditioned theater.

>>85139131
Foreign countries do. There's not much competition in the "giant robots fisting each other" genre, and the last one being Pacific Rim still doesn't have a sequel in the works.

Also there's a following for the first trilogy's scrapmetal aesthetic which up until now riles up angry debates in traditional vs present.

>>85138663

man that design is cringe worthy

>>85139131
I respecting enough as business model to provide a good enough return to keep people employed

>>85139131
It doesn't really shit up a franchise but rather, it's just one of the franchise's shit series.

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>>85139230
The older ones, dirty as they were, looked better.

>>85139131
yeah, other than Bayformers there's literally nothing else in the Live Action Transforming Combiner Robots Genre.

>http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Transformers-Animated-Movie-Coming-May-Actually-About-Transformers-83307.html
>http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hasbro-acquires-irish-animation-studio-910909

Th-there's still hope right anons? R-right?

>>85139272
...Remember when Barricade was so cool in the first movie and you thought he would be a big part and then be in the second movie with back story and get into shouting matches with Starscream. Yeah...me too.

>>85139310
The animated movie's connected to Bayformers lore, and apparently the new writers and the signs in the shootings hinting on flashbacks along with Barricade's return are going to actually try and retcon/rebuild the lore.

Don't know how but they'll just do. Paramount doesn't want to let the current series reboot.

>>85139317
I don't remember jack shit from any of the movies.

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>>85139317
Well it took four movies but they finally are going to give him the spotlight. In the filming there have been more sightings of Barricade, most of which had him strolling the roads with the other Decepticon cars, and no explosions whatsoever.

>>85138879

>opinions I don't like are bait!

>>85138663
Any reason why Transformers don't look like in cartoons and such? Only Optimus looks similar.

>>85139432
>and no explosions whatsoever.

Until post cause Bay will think it's too boring to have some cons just talking.

>>85139432

Rreeeaally now? Hmm, well I'm interested now. Barricade was the my ultimate "wasted" pet peeve back during the first movie, when my hopes for the second one was through the fucking roof.

>>85139560
He's a practical user of pyrotechnics, not Zack Snyder. For whatever reason there's three sightings of Barricade and the cons without any action set pieces (so far for the two, Barricade had his first action set piece with Bumblebee and a couple of other London police cars).

>>85139598
He was in Dark of the Moon but died there. Guess they didn't kill him good enough. Wonder what he looks like now.

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>>It's been almost 10 years
>>Transfags STILL buthurt about Bay.
>>MFW

>>85139598
Another thing was that they hid the "Punish and Enslave" decal in the london police chase, which adds curiosity as to whether he was hiding in London.

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>>85139526
Bay likes to detract from the established for some reason. Closest would be Ratchet still being a medic, Bee being yellow and Brawl being a tank.

>>85139635
Getting laughs at the forum speculation that he was just blinded and crawled away after his legs were blown, making him the Kenny of the movies where his running gag is dying in odd-numbered movies.

Hell he even died in the IDW comics, and he had a good character in it.

>>85139751
I remember back in 2007 when people cared way more about taking a property in a different direction. I still like the 07 one and the last one wasn't the worst thing ever.

>>85139668

I can't help it. Transformers taught me and my brother English. It was what bounded us at 6 am before school because it was the only thing playing that early besides the news or a Spanish drama. I can't stand that Bay made Prime into a murdering monster. Still not over it yet.

>He actually kept Hot Rod
Even as far as Transformers names go, I always thought that one was especially shitty. It's equivalent to calling Optimus "Semi" or Ratchet "Fleet Vehicle".

>>85139889
I still think the opening of the 07 one was incredible. Blackout's transformation and decimation of the military base was perfect.

>This bayformer looks worse than that bayformer

They all look the same, that's one of the major problems.

>>85139889
Meh, I preferred the third one as more exciting than the second while pretending than an hour-half of Cade's family wasn't in it for the fourth movie.

While I don't really trust Bay anymore, there's new writers in it ( some of which wrote Antman) and the Benghazi film wasn't too bad. Also, Bay has been going all out in social media promotions. He's been taking videos of the set, talking on stream at facebook and even said Barricade when passing by the police car.

>>85139989
Not really, Hot Rod just seemed like being Lockdown and Bumblebee's lovechild, or like a protoform who decided to put on SOME car kibble.

I'm still hoping that it's just unfinished concept art because even as an apologist for Bayformers designs, that's still pretty ugly.

>Transformers: The Last Knight
>Transformers: She Said
>Transformers: Oh Baby I Feel So Down
>Transformers: Oh It Turns Me Off
>Transformers: When I Feel Left Out

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>>85139921
It's a different incarnation. There's a lot of Optimus Primes in different cartoons with his personality being one of Superman or Captain America.

They haven't been self aware of Prime's murderous actions until the fourth where he goes full angst against the humans and being tired of war and backstabbers in general.

Megatron's death though was the highlight of the Bayformers series.

>>85140033
You could just take OP's image and switch out the name of any other bayformer and it wouldn't matter because they all look like the same messy shit.

>>85139945
Blackout and Barricade had pretty good intro scenes of themselves.

>>85140091
I haven't watched 4. So he's no longer a crazy murdering sociopath? Cause, as shitty as Bayformers is, I love me some Murder Prime.

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>>85140091
>trying to defend Bayshit

>>85140102
Well at least you can differentiate all of the autobots because they're the only ones with defining colors and designs. I'm more for "Are they sure that this isn't some of the genericons that would just be on screen for a few seconds?"

>>85140206
Nah, I can defend Optimus Prime but not the film series as a whole.

>>85140121
The original set of Decepticons deserved better. I wish these movies had better writing. Would have been funny if Barricade and Blackout were more interesting than Soundwave or Starscream right about now.

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>>85140091
Is it bad that I kind of like Murder Prime?Hell, I'm glad IDW is making Optimus a little more ruthless as well though not quite to Bays extent.

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>>85140172
He's more emotional in the fourth. Basically he
-when he was woken up the first thing on his mind was going out to find and help the other hunted Autobots
-mourned about Ratchet's death and punched the ground in frustration against the humans
-Had a cool banter with Galvatron
-Talked with Cade about losing faith in the future of himself and the humans
-Killed his first human to save Cade from getting shot point blanked, only to get stabbed by Lockdown in the process.
-He does stab Lockdown in the back and literally sliced him open while saying HONOR

Are there any transformers shows airing right now? The last I remember is that CGI Prime series.

>>85140281

You know, for whatever I'm cool with it in the comics cause they've built it up. For some reason I don't like it in the movies cause it just comes out of nowhere.

>>85140243
Well here's to stockholm, hoping that Barricade does indeed get better development.

>>85138663
YOU GOT THE TOUCH!

>>85139520
It's okay anon, we all acknowledged your shitposting.

>>85140314
Robots in Disguise and the recently released Combiner Wars (the latter is based on but not a direct adaptation of the IDW combiner wars)

>>85140121
Blackout's scene was an amazing way to start the movie.

That's not even that bad, Transformers-wise...
Can someone get a close of the face?

>>85140483
Shame he never got a leader class toy.

>>85138663
Wow. Actual car parts on the robot. That's a step up from AoE

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>>85140543
I AM THE HARBINGER OF DEATh

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>>85140598
I'm torn. Like the fourth movie had really good looking robots for the Autobots side, but they hardly had any robot kibble to the point where they all transform from either a distance or offscreen.

>>85139814
He actually died twice in the IDW comics, first at Optimus' hands, then Bumblebee

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>>85140671
Funny, he's had more resurrections than Megatron and Optimus Prime.

>>85140569
He definitely needed one.
His voyager toy was nice, except for that long backpack he has.

>>85140600
I guess the face is a little bad.

>>85140712
It's the face and the entirety of his back that's bad.

At least it is a step up from AoE's near-kibbleless designs.

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>>85138663
I'm actually surprised they even released something like this. AoE and DOTM never had anything to promote about the robots (besides Optimus and Bee) in mid-production.

>>85140281
This "heroes shouldn't kill" meme needs to die.

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>>85140704
Those DS games were better than they had any right to be.

>>85140644
As robots they work fine bit as Transformers most of them are garbage designs. Especially Optimus and all of Galvatron's Decepticons(?) as a toyfag I was disappoint.
Dinobots were cool though.

>>85140809
Now all marketing will be about Hot Rod.
Say hello to the new face of the franchise and your new favourite character!

>>85140876
I prefer buying DMK model kits of them rather than convertible toys. Dinobots translated into toys very well.

>Tfw no Lockdown model kit

>>85140932
Nah. The next movie is literally a lower budget Bumblebee movie. Don't know why they even went with Bee this late into the series.

>>85140362

Only shitposting is you with the bait images.

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>>85138663
If he's not a Dome Zero with a Winnebago camper then what's the point.

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>>85141248
>post shitty opinion on 4chan
>not expect to get called bait

>>85141388

>it's bait because I don't like it

Whatever you say, kiddo.

>>85138663
But that's not his final form. What will he look like when he takes the matrix of leadership and becomes Rodimus Prime?

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Well, since we are on the subject of Transformers, opinions on the 5 min Combiners animation?
https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_0a41e9fb10434ab4a483fc2c60e07885

>>85142448
This looks like absolute shit

I haven't cared about this shit since Bumbleboo one shotted Soundwave.

>>85142448

Animation isn't too bad in some spots, but others it feels clunky and almost stuttered. The voices are definitely leaving a lot to be desired, either sounding too emotional for usual TF characters, or just not quite fitting the characters (the Con who gets killed sounded really weird like some gangster than a Con), and the dialogue is meh ("Nerd" just doesn't many any sense as an insult, or the whole "You're a killer for beating me!" bullshit).

The whole premise seems interesting, but I can't see this quite being as well done as the other shows.

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>>85138847
>>85138762
You're really gonna tell me a Bayformer looks better than this sexy mofo?

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>>85142716
This one looks sexier

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>>85142701
>>85142557
>Kinda agree..
I'm thinking of giving this the three episode try, Menasor was too smart and Wind Blade able to kill a combiner that easily made me face palm, but I love TF to give this a chance...loosely.

>>85142827

Well, it is machinima, so it isn't something to expect high quality from.

>tfw they're the reason Freeman's Mind took like 20 years to finish

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>>85142774
Both are better than OP.

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>>85142906
It reminds me of those terrible JP CG TF cartoons, if they were made today.

>>85143093

It's not quite that bad. This at least takes something that has been a thing since G1 (combining Transformers) and just makes it political/civil issue for the story instead of a Pokémon knockoff with an oc donut steel race of fucking glorified powerups.

Plus, the CGI with cel-shaded elements isn't nearly as obvious in this as it was with Energon and Cybertron where the characters felt superimposed.

>>85141502
Whatever floats your boat, contrarian child.

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>>85143207
True, but when you have a Decepticon crying in tears after a human child kicks it in the foot.

>It's time to click off.

>>85143216

>contrarian

Nice misuse of words there, champ.

>>85143304

Is that a thing in Combiner Wars? I thought it was all about the bots and no humans.

Wait they're making a FIFTH movie? I havent even seen the fourth one yet..

>>85143480
Well they take two-three years before making the next.

Well one thing I will say about Bay is that his Transformers do look alien when they're not in disguise.

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>>85143433
No, we were discussing about the JP Energon and Cybertron toons.

>>85143586

And I pretty much said those were kind of bad because of the wonky way the characters were animated into the scenes.

>>85140826
exactly, being a hero doesn't mean being a white knight

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still hate Bayformers' face designs.

Is it Unicron time yet? Probably the only thing that would get me to see another one of these movies desu.

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>>85138663
>>85140243
>>85139432
So far the latest set video shows the pathetic dirty foursome riding towards the Decepticons.

Still no explosions. I'm intrigued. Also this is the first time Optimus has appeared in the set, as he was absent in all the previous public shootings, even the submarine set.

>>85143619
No, but the first official poster had a Hydra in it. Rumored to be Trypticon.

>>85140281

The problem is that Prime didn't keep quipping shit every time he offed a Con in the first movie. Second and on, he's pulling borderline Nathan Drake quips when he kills most enemies like we'll somehow not find him cool unless he utters things like "Give me your face" like he's a psychopath. Him killing is fine, that's to be expected in a literal war, but quipping for every kill just borders on being edgy.

>>85143743
>Quipping
How exactly outside of ROTF is he quipping? In the first one he just flat out kills Bonecrusher, in the third he gives a response to Megatron's truce offer while he gives a final remark to Sentinel Prime, not to mention he just yelled GRAAAAHH, YOU DIE when killing Shockwave and his pets, and said absolutely nothing when he killed Lockdown.

so the robotic designs still look like uncomprehensible shit to the eye, got it

which is a shame because the vehicles usually always look unique, appealing and colorful, which is a staple of the cartoons that got raped in the movies

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>>85143619
Sadly no, bay hasn't even brought in the Quints properly.

>Unicron will most likely be nothing more than a giant space funnel cloud, like Galactus in the F4 part two movie.

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>>85143931
Well they did manage to be better and worse.

I like em, but this Hot Rod borders on bad genericon henchman design.

>Just after the first movie released
>Made hopeful speculation about Unicron being in the second
>Friend jokingly says "Nah, they're going to save that for number six"
>We're at the point where he could be fucking right about that

>>85144118
That's also false. see >>85140983

Though it would be plausible for a post credit Unicron.

Not that I don't hate these fucking movies, or think that the designs after the first one are mostly shit.

BUT it is your own problem for not being able to tell the robots apart, you're probably the same nerds that can't play or follow sports because you lack the co-ordination

Hell even if you play some action video games you should be able to tell what's going on

NOW the real problem is alot of the scenes don't have any geography, the action isn't too fast, the scene it self actually doesn't make any sense, with the same transformers (end fight transformers 2 being the biggest culprit) literally being in two places at once.

This is why I think you guys get confused, you think that things are happening too fast when in actual fact, even in slow motion the scene wouldn't make sense, even if the characters looked great the scene wouldn't make sense.

Now Transformers 4 does have good geography in the scene, no teleporting, some decent team work, no duplicates (apart from the fodder villains who are supposed to be like that) and if you still couldn't follow that fight, you might just be stupid or old.

>>85144386
Shame TF4 had really bad story handling. It felt like three movies in one, and the worst part is that for the fourth movie most of the shots are focused on the humans than the robots in the Galvatron fight and the first LockdownxPrime fight.

I'm still not convinced that anybody who feels Bay is "Raping their childhood" or anything like that is or has ever been a Transformers fan

As a TF fan since literally most of my life, I've been through worse than Bayformers....the Japanese are my worst enemy, not Michael Bay

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>>85138663
Serious question: why can nobody in Hollywood design characters for shit? Why does every adapted character have to look nothing like the source material? Why does it all have to look like trash?

>>85144431

>really bad story handling

still better than 3

>the worst part of the fourth movie most of the shots are focused on the humans

still more time on the robots during the fights by quite a margin and I've timed it

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>>85141358
There's only one car that would be perfect enough to be hot rod

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Is he right, /tfg/?

>>85139131
Chinks love them, mostly because they are an entire nation of peasants.

There's a few die hard Bay fans in the TF fandom but their argument is mostly "all Transformers is bad but the Bay movies had the most money spent on them, ergo they are the best." That said the toyline for the movies have been shrinking since ROTF and Hasbro doesn't make any money on the movies at all, so they're obviously not very profitable for Hasbro.

>>85139278
But there's only one combiner in all the Bay movies.

>>85139526
There are several reasons, but no good ones. Everything comes down to Hollywood arrogance.

When Bay was developing TF1 he hired an artist who designed robots like the ones we have now- as messy masses of triangles. Industrial Light & Magic did the CG, and due to them moving tech wankery they wanted to design all these messy robots to actually Transform. So unlike in the series or toys there was no shell hidden under the vehicle body- the only spots of color that could show up are bits of the altmode, so they needed to chop it up into tiny pieces.

That's also why Optimus has flames- on the toys the trailer hitch is always the blue, but real trailer hitches are mostly unpainted, so in Bayformers they needed some exterior blue. They also didn't want vehicles to have "abnormal" color schemes, which is why everybody always looks drab save Optimus (who is probably contractually obligated to look similar.)

So there you have it- they all look like absolute shit because "it might be cool."


A lot of this got lifted in AoE, where there's a lot more of an armor design theme going on. IMO it is head and shoulders above the other three.

>>85139668
>Dog Turd sitting on your carpet
>after a week it gets all white and crusty
>"wooow it's been a week why are you complaining? It's not shit anymore!"

>>85144483
I watched the original TF movie (Unicorn) so many times as a kid my tape actually melted. The movies are shit, Shia LeBeouf and Marky Mark are both horribly shit actors. Baysplosion is a hack director who only chooses actresses based on how much he wants to bone them. (Read up on how he treats them on set. Guy's a fucking creep.) They're over-designed, the jokes are stale and predictable and at times completely juvenile. (Seriously? Devastator has balls? Talk about your low-hanging fruit.) He pays so little attention to the original characters it's insulting. I honestly cannot tell half the fucking robots apart half the time, because they all just look like jumbled messes of too many parts with vague colors to indicate who is what. (Prowl died and I didn't even realize it was supposed to be him until they said his name.)

And let's not forget, the stories are getting more pathetic and more cookie-cutter "we need to get the macguffin to stop the bad guys from something something Earth is somehow important to all of Cybertron for 10 different reasons, literally none of them being energon. But we'll just keep that from the humans that Optimus keeps saying he wants to protect, because fuck them, they don't need to know about all the danger they're in.

Also, Bumblebee is not Bumblebee. I refuse to see him as the lovable, plucky and optimistic sidekick he always was before. What's wrong with him being a Volkswagon Beetle? Or at least a dunebuggy or something. And every madeup, non-cannon character they create is even worse. The twins were fucking stupid. I don't give a shit if people think they're racist or whatever, they were just annoying and completely unnecessary to the story. Likewise with that little tiny thing that, for some reason, wanted to hump the human girl's leg.

Finally, the movies aren't about the robots. At all. The humans have so much more screen time and are way, way more important than they should be in a movie called Transformers.

>>85139889
Ghostbusters, The Rocketeer, Resident Evil, DmC, and Castlevania would like to have a word with you.

>>85139989
This is pretty accurate, although some do look worse than the rest. Devastator being the worst of them all.

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>Optimus Prime has flames in bayverse but Hot Rod doesn't

>>85144505
If only the human character's daughter and future son in law were bearable. If the movie were an hour-half and the extra shit with the chinese guests and the family dysfunction were out I would've loved it. I enjoyed 3 more.

>>85140091
Saying Bay Prime is good is like saying Snyder Superman is good.

>>85144537
Eh, neither do most other robot characters.

>>85140314
RiD is fun but it's kid focused. Combiner Wars has like one 5 minute episode. It's... okay so far, but it's got some horrible animation.

>>85140091
>Megatron's death
Which one?

>>85144671
Not saying it's good, but I'm saying it's the only good thing the series has, and it's not really a direct adaptation of the character as they've taken liberties with him, just like nearly every named robot in the series, though unlike the latter Optimus has been in the development spotlight more than the others, and while it's not the best you'll get, it's certainly entertaining to see where this murder warlord will go to next.

>>85140826
But they shouldn't. Murder is objectively wrong.

>>85144670

because you're retarded

>>85144697
Third.

Though they could've given him a lot more screentime, the fact that he was offering a truce was pretty much him being a shell of his former self, being reduced to Sentinel's bitch and pretty much wanting a partnership in the middle of a failing invasion.

So yeah if Optimus hadn't killed him I would've been more pissed than watching an hour of ROTF and AoE's teenage buttservice.

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>>85144704
Nah, it's a matter of which one flowed better as a movie. They're both shit but I enjoyed the one that's less shit.

>>85144642
>Unicorn

But yeah you're right. The only characters who have had any staying power are Barricade and Blackout, and that's only because of them having interesting vehicle modes.

>>85144431
AoE was pretty much a better movie than all three of the others combined.

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>>85144546
I just like the aesthetic and the toys. ROTF brought the best of it but slowly tumbled down during AoE.

>>85144739
Blackout technically stayed but renamed as Grindor and appeared in the second because he was memorable in the first so it's kinda like fanservice, same with Barricade during the third when he cameo'd with killing Wheeljack

>>85144739
It's 3:40 AM, cut me some slack.

Another problem I had was just how completely flat and boring the Decepticons were. Almost none of them had anything relevant to say, if anything at all. Fuck, one of my favorites was in space the whole time because he needed to be a satellite for some reason and not the most loyal servant of Megatron. Starscream hardly even had any secretly trying to usurp Megatron moments. Fuck's sake, he never even failed Megatron for the last time. What a fucking crock of shit.

>>85144503
This. The designs of the movieformers just look like walking trash piles. I don't understand who could possibly think they are aesthetically pleasing in any way.

>Character named Drift
>acts like a Samurai
>talks in a stereotypical Japanese accent
>transforms into a Bugatti Veyron

I'll never understand that, he should have turned into a Skyline, not a random European car.

>>85144751
Well you've got to be touched in the head to like the aesthetic. But the toy industry was riding high during that time period, so there was a lot more money to be spent per toy. It made for some good figures but a lot of them suffer from the grotesque artstyle- about the only good ones are non-movie characters like the HA Scouts, Bludgeon, or Mindwipe.

Around that time you also have RTS, Universe, and Classics which have similar levels of engineering and actual designs, so Bayformers is pretty unnecessary.

>>85143312
You're right, you should've been described as """"contrarian""""

>>85144763
I meant more outside the movies. Blackout was in TF:A and Barricade has been in several things, including War for Cybertron if I remember correctly.

>>85144781
Michael Bay could. Same with his horrible designs of the Turtles. Holy shit, they were so fucking ugly.

>>85142774
>Megatron an autobot
What am I looking at here?

>>85142716
>>85142774
I didn't think a Transformer could give me a boner

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>>85144781
>>85144788
>>85144796

I like it because it's a creepy mecha alien vibe to it. It's not as clean or bright as the G1, IDW or even the Cybertron games but they kinda just have a thing to them.

Not saying all their robot designs are good. Prime and Sideswipe stood out really well while Arcee, Dreads, Lockdown and the recent Bee looked like a sad parody of itself.

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>>85144787
Because Drift is a weeabot but the movie was made for chinks, so they made him a chinese warrior. He's also supposed to be Springer since he's a car/helicopter Triple Changer.

Hound is also a combination of Ironhide and Kup with Bulkhead's design.

>>85144810
IDW. Long story.

>>85144796
Bay wasn't the director of those films

>>85140876
>Those DS games were better than they had any right to be.
The first one was the only good one, mainly because of the interchangeability, in the ROTF DS game, you chose a Vehicle mode and were stuck with it for the rest of the game.

Also the first one was the only one where I got anywhere storywise.

>>85144825
He produced them.

>>85144825
Story arcs/issues to read? I'm curious now.

>>85144642
>I watched the original TF movie (Unicorn) so many times as a kid my tape actually melted.
And that's it? I don't want to be "that guy" but if that's all your experience with TF has been, that's kinda like calling yourself a Pokemon expert just cause you played Red version a lot back in the day and never anything else.

> Shia LeBeouf and Marky Mark are both horribly shit actors. Baysplosion is a hack director who only chooses actresses based on how much he wants to bone them. (Read up on how he treats them on set. Guy's a fucking creep.) They're over-designed, the jokes are stale and predictable and at times completely juvenile.
So? Once again I'm not praising the Bayverse, but his possible closet homosexuality is none of my concern, and toilet humor? Like I said, not the worst thing I've endured during my time in the TF fandom....although it is a low point particularly in Bayformers 2, that movie is the worst and most will agree

> I honestly cannot tell half the fucking robots apart half the time, because they all just look like jumbled messes of too many parts with vague colors to indicate who is what.
Sounds like a personal problem...I have no problem telling the robots apart, the real issue is that barely any of them resemble their namesake which is what makes it confusing

>Finally, the movies aren't about the robots. At all. The humans have so much more screen time and are way, way more important than they should be in a movie called Transformers.
Yeah thanks for pointing out the obvious....

Anyway, the movies aren't great....they're hardly even good, they're shlocky summer blockbuster bullshit. That being said, they're still far from the worst thing TF fans have had to endure over the years which is my point, anybody who's been a TF fan through the 90s and 00s will likely have suffered far worse things

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>>85144898
Transformers Robots in Disguise, followed by Dark Cybertron then More than Meets The Eye Season 2

>>85144880
Doesn't mean he ghosted over every decision, otherwise it might as well have been Steven Spielberg who did Transformers 1, and he wanted the Transformers to be silent robots.

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>>85144927
Thanks

>>85144925
I was saying I was a very big fan of Transformers growing up. I was using that as an example.

What? What the fuck does his possibly being gay have to do with him being a shit actor? And saying bad humor isn't the worst thing you've dealt with is like saying getting stabbed in the arm isn't as bad as being shot in the chest. Yeah, it's not as awful, but it still fucking sucks.

It's not a personal problem. Look through this thread. A lot of people share that problem.

>Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
Now you're just being combative because I'm not sucking shit out of Bay's ass. He's a hack and your precious Bayformers movie is terrible and is, in fact, one of the worst things TF fans have had to deal with. I would sooner watch Beast Machines.

>>85138663

I want to wake up now, please.

>>85144998
>What? What the fuck does his possibly being gay have to do with him being a shit actor?
I was talking about Bay and your accusations of him being a creep, I don't give a fuck. The X-Men director is a known pedophile that people have came out against claiming he raped them and nobody gives a fuck because he's rich in Jewlywood and makes movies people like.


>It's not a personal problem. Look through this thread. A lot of people share that problem
It's a personal problem for them too, it's also a meme. Most of the bots are distinguishable from one another, if you can't tell the difference you're retarded. Like I said, telling them apart is not the issue, telling which character they're supposed to be is.

>Now you're just being combative because I'm not sucking shit out of Bay's ass.
I'm being combative because honestly you seem like a fair weather fan, not someone who's actually known the ups and downs of being a TF fan LONG before Michael Bay.

>He's a hack and your precious Bayformers movie is terrible and is, in fact, one of the worst things TF fans have had to deal with. I would sooner watch Beast Machines.
Bayformers is better than Beast Machines, and Beast Machines is better than every single TF anime ever produced....that makes up about half of the TF shows ever made

So, yeah sorry, Bayformers may not be anything to praise but it's not the worst.

>>85139668

I hope something you care about is ruined.

>>85140876
I always see your display on /toy/ and everyone shits on you for not displaying MPs or anime figures.

>>85144925
Pokemon became pure shit after G2 though.

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>>85145138
If they were Takara or the black set it would better.

>>85138663
God, I cannot fucking STAND the generic design they went for Transformers in this movie. I swear, Hollywood can't into robotic designs anymore. These things have always just looked like a generic, unrecognizable mess of scraps of metal strown about here and there.

Fuck this shit. I'm still mad.

I can't be the only one here who likes the Bay designs more than the G1 designs, right?

Memes aside, the movies have some good acting, it's just the roles and typecasting is meh, and the script is more silly. Still, the movies do some wicked shit, and the designs look fucking amazing. Megatron actually looks like a threat, not some floating pistol that's all blocky. Those who have grown up with G1 and are MBay haters will obviously disagree, but whatever.

>>85144925
>2016
>being a Bay apolegist
WEW

The Bay movies are quite literally the worst thing about the entire franchise. Transformers has always been about the characters first, so making a movie that runs counter to that is objectively making a bad Transformers movie.

The fact also remains that the Bay movies are widely considered some of the worst Hollywood movies in existance, so defending them is laughable. You are literally trying to say poop tastes good.

>>85145199
Bad bait

>>85145206
Bay's done better than most if ignoring the Transformers. Benghazi and Gain were passably good. He's done shit but he's not the worst out there. Hell he's not even the most controversially bad out there.

>>85145279
He is literally the worst active filmmaker in Hollywood today. He has done more to damage cinema than any other man alive.

>>85145149
>Pokemon became pure shit after G2 though.
So did Transformers, if you want to consider Beast Wars a true "G2" since "G2" was just G1 extended

>The Bay movies are quite literally the worst thing about the entire franchise.
No, the anime is worse. Much worse.

>The fact also remains that the Bay movies are widely considered some of the worst Hollywood movies in existance, so defending them is laughable. You are literally trying to say poop tastes good.
>MUH CRITIC OPINIONS
Fuck off lemming, I just stated in my what...last five posts that the Bayverse is not GOOD, but simply not the worst? You're not a TF fan why the fuck am I talking to you, fuck off to MCU circle jerk threads

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>>85145199
Bait or genuine, it's just too hard to really explain why one would like the aesthetic as the usual response is "it's scrapgarbage, it's indistinguishable, not muh" when a lot of the designs of the Bayformers are a hit and miss, and mostly not muhs.

>>85145310
>Bayfag hating on Beast Wars

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLL

>>85145149
Your'e a delusional nostalgia fag. I love g2 so much but the series only got better. I will agree that G6 was fucking garbage though.

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>>85145176
So it's a Bay movie design...

and the hood of the car becomes the chest!

>>85145301
That's exaggeration. You don't go to news sites and see "Michael Bay ruins everything". He just made mediocre movies about that one 80's cartoon and capitalized on the big robot genre. He's not influential, he's not political, he's not even pretentious. He just does popcorn movies and makes money doing so.

>>85140359
YOU GOT THE POWER!

>>85145326
Yeah, that's weird. You'd think he'd love them since they're the same thing.

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>>85145149
>implyng gen 1 and 2 stand a change against gen 4 and 5

>>85145311
Sorry, but designs should actually look like comprehensible shapes at the bare minimum. When doing adaptations they should at least resemble what they're adapting.

If you make a Superman movie where Superman is a bearded 50 year old black man in a Hawaiian shirt with a shotgun and no powers, you have made a bad Superman movie. No amount of whining about how "Y...you just hate it because you actually like the thing I'm shitting on" changes that.

The fact that the majority of viewers can't even tell one character apart from the others shows what a fantastic job Bay has done with the characters.

>>85145329
G3 is objectively the worst game in the entire franchise.

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Higher res pic of the design.

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>>85145408
>black and red repaint of Bumblebee

Didn't we get this in the last movie?

>>85145390
I've had no trouble distinguishing one from the other because they're not all the same forms.

The real problem however is that they're mostly nameless and unimportant, especially at the Decepticons' side, not because they look *the same*. At best the main difference is in color contrast while the Decepticons use protoform cloning for army filler. Besides, most of the autobots have always been intro'd in the beginning.

>>85145429
Technically Rod's gray and orange.

>>85145429
Bay probably forgot.

>>85145489

Bay isn't the guy writing these movies or designing the robots

>>85145340
>So it's a Bay movie design...
Well I meant Bayformers in general.

They are so messy and indistinguishable.

>>85139317
Literally me. It wasn't until after i discovered it wasn't "that" kind of movie that gives a shit.

>>85145120
Ruin? Fans are getting the 1987 Headmasters
The main 4 autobots, 3 main decepticons and a 2 foot Fortress Maximums
You are getting a pile of 83-86 G1 characters every year. Every new show tries to do something the other didn't
And you want to claim they are ruin?

Fuck sakes man this new Hot Rod ensures we are going to see more G1 inspired hot rod shit and a greater chance he will show up in kids media again just like what happen with Grimlock.
Are they shit absolutely but more good has come from their existence than bad so Im not going to shit my pants Bay is making another billion dollar making film.

>>85145522
I forgave ROTF for writer's strike but it still wasn't a good movie.

DOTM was my fool me twice, with Wheeljack and Mirage confirmed but the former was just just filler death and the latter being Jolt; sports car promotion. Well at least Sentinel had more better dialogue than Fallen.

>>85145516
Or directing them apparently.

>>85139432
Didn't he get insultingly taken down like a bitch by the military in the 3rd movie?

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>>85145538
Hot Rod is already coming though

>>85145538
Yeah, not like they replaced Skids with ROTF Skids for future incarnations. At best the most they adapt from the movieverse for the other series of the franchise are black stripes and muteness for Bee..

>>85145558
He got better.

I mean he did survive getting the smackdown in the first, getting forgotten in the second, getting blinded and crippled in the third and even got a cameo in the fourth.

He even has decals in the fifth, from Punish and Enslave to Hail Megatron.

>>85145564
You see, for all we know he was getting made because they knew he be in the film.It happens all the damn time in this franchise.
Hate the films but don't act like they do shit to your childhood.

>>85145550
Headmasters is a bit of a meh gimmick but I'm glad we're getting better deluxe/voyager molds again.

>>85145599
>You see, for all we know he was getting made because they knew he be in the film.

Incredibly unlikely.

>>85145599
its existence rustles many fans, but discussing it is more bearable than talking to an elitist geewunner in a forum.

>>85145626
Toy is based on the IDW comics it seemed.

Hot Rod, I'm still trying to rap my head around because there has never been any new Autobot car in the recent shootings.

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>>85145576
>Yeah, not like they replaced Skids with ROTF Skids for future incarnations.
A great example of what little impact the movie guys have on the other franchises.

>At best the most they adapt from the movieverse for the other series of the franchise are black stripes and muteness for Bee..
which was only prominent in one game (Fall of Cybertron) and one TV series (Prime) everything else has remain unaffected.
Hell Transformers Prime Optiums Prime was the most peace loving tree hugging Prime yet.

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>>85145655
IDW-wise, the Bay Starscream had a small cameo in Starscream's "closet", Barricade was a police in Cybertron, seemingly corrupt but his spark's in the right place and Strafe (two headed pterodactyl) was added to the dinobot league as a mutated Camien whom Barricade had feelings.

At least they didn't go the Marvel way of adapting every Bayverse thing.

>>85145733
Beast Wars and 2001 RiD has gotten better cameo's and representation in IDW then the Bayverse characters

>>85145788
Well movieverse isn't something to be proud of as being part of a franchise but at least they acknowledge some of the better parts of it.

Probably more acknowledged than Kiss Players

>>85145655
Skids in both movie and Generations line sold out so fast in my country.

Out of the way, Hot Rod!

>>85145863
I could almost see Crosshairs making a fourth wall comment about it.

>>85145813
Kiss Players had no original molds though so its not like there's much to draw from.

>>85145875
penis tongue

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>>85138663
Will any design top Wheeljack in awfulness?

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If they don't get Judd Nelson to voice him it's going to be a big missed opportunity. They better not pull some bullshit with him not having a functioning voice box either.

>>85145932
Probably Hotrod at this point but we have yet to see the new Decepticons' forms, or if Barricade updated his face and height.

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This is all I see. It's like there is no design.

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>>85145960
oh right...those guys existed

>>85145978
That's western mecha design in general.

>>85145932
Didn't they just call him Q in the movie, and the toyline called him Wheeljack?

>>85145406
You're using that word wrong because it would apply to g1 for being the most barebones.

>>85139131
>>85138663

I like Bayformers.

Yeah, okay, it's dumb with poor writing, and the designs could be slightly better (I wish the Decepticons had different colors so you could tell them apart, but I don't like the 80's design, too blocky and silly), but it's a fun action movie with great fight scenes and good CGI. Not every movie has to be or needs to be Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey or some other artsy film. It doesn't have to be something that ivy league critics can jerk off to, movies are whatever people want them to be.

And before any of you say Michael Bay is a money whore or raped your childhood or whatever, remember that the Transformers cartoon only existed to sell toys. Secondly, it's not like he ruined anything, since Transformers is just repeats of storylines:

>WHOA, Starscream is gonna betray Megatron! Again!
>Holy shit, there's another Prime, and he's a douchebag! Didn't see that coming!
>Omigod, Megatron's come back as Galvatron!!! I thought he was dead for sure!!!

Stop pretending the source material is this untouchable masterpiece. I swear, 80's kids are the worst.

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>>85139206
>the last one being Pacific Rim still doesn't have a sequel in the works.
Yes it does. They already cast John Boyega in the lead.

>>85145978
Woah, who is this new Decepticon?

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>>85145993
Was just thinking about how if we ever got a live-action Hollywood Gundam movie, you just know they'd fuck up the designs with the shitty Transformers look.

>>85146006
>drab grey junk heap

Yep.

>>85146004
I have some more faith for the Decepticons getting characterizations in this next one based on what I've seen so far.

But yeah, it's just one of those things that even if you like, you're stuck alone in unpopular opinions.

>>85146004
You are a walking abortion and don't deserve to live.

>>85146006
Not him, but to be fair, Pacific Rim is the exception and also was a deliberate throwback to old school super robot anime.

Frankly, I'd like to see more shit like that, Hollywood.

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>>85146023
>Was just thinking about how if we ever got a live-action Hollywood Gundam movie
we got really close. It wasn't all that bad design wise.

>>85146008
Oh really? I thought Toro was busy?

>>85146023
Well there's Ghost in the Shell, Dafoe as Ryuk for Death Note. I'm betting FMA's next with some political commentary. Gundam's probably not coming since PRim already has the pilot robots thing going on.

>>85146032
I like Decepticons, too, but I wish they had more of a reason for what they do besides "BWAHAHAHA."

>>85146037
Why is that?

>>85138663

>likes: motor oil, straight stretchea of road, nitrous oxide
>hates: bullies, teachers, parents

>>85146050
>>85146046
Honestly the one thing I really disliked in Rim was that all the fighting took place at night, in barely lit areas and slower movement during the underwater fight.

Well that and that china and russia got fucked early on.

>>85146050
>Pacific Rim
>close to Gundam at all
MAYBE G Gundam, but Gundam is real robot, m8. Not super robot.

And don't go all spergy on me like /m/ does whenever anyone labels anything 'real' or 'super'.

>>85146057
So far it's just Barricade showing signs of change, that and that there hasn't been any explosions during the filming of the three Cons strolling along the roads.

>>85146046
you won't it got beat out in domestic theaters by Grow Ups
made bank everywhere else in the world but it got beat by an Adam Sandler comedy in the US.
Domestic sales are a big deal unless you have someone helping you foot the bill (Like Hasbro does with Paramount)
If it can't reach #1 here and is a non Disney studio you can beat that's going to shelf the idea for a good 15 years or more.

They better not have all th Combaticons in this one. I don't wanna have to buy them all again.

But hey, at least now I can finally get a Barricade.

>>85146056
>Well there's Ghost in the Shell, Dafoe as Ryuk for Death Note. I'm betting FMA's next with some political commentary. Gundam's probably not coming since PRim already has the pilot robots thing going on.
I'm interested in GitS and Dafoe as Ryuk is actually bretty gud casting.

Not quite Hollywood but isn't Del Toro making a Monster HBO series as well?

>Gundam's probably not coming since PRim already has the pilot robots thing going on.
But Gundam isn't anything like PRim, aside from both having giant robots that need to be piloted. But you might be right in that Hollywood and most general audiences might not be able to tell the difference.

>>85146093
Just Onslaught. Very little chance he's a combiner in this one.

>>85146103
Didn't he have that vampire-zombie series? Did it bomb?

>>85146072
Help with budget
Making fights in the day that look real would have killed the budget

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>>85146220
Fair point, but this one just seemed like one big cocktease.

>>85138780
>>85138847
>>85138879
>>85139520
>>85140362
>>85141248
>>85141388
>>85141502
>>85143216
>>85143312
>>85144789

JUST FUCK ALREADY!

>>85144979
i recamend checking out last stand if the wreckers and just reading more than meet the eye from the start

>>85146093
Why would you buy them again after sewing how bad Devestator turned out?

Also which Bruticus did you get?

>>85145326
>>Bayfag hating on Beast Wars
Are you a fucking idiot? He said AFTER G2, and in my analogy that would mean AFTER Beast Wars.

Holy shit kill yourself.

>>85146004
>Stop pretending the source material is this untouchable masterpiece. I swear, 80's kids are the worst.
While I agree with most of what you said, to be fair...a lot of the people who sperg the most over Bay aren't even hardcore TF fans, they're just assholes who vaguely remember the cartoon and have had no clue that TF has existed outside of the 80s, so they feel they can treat it as an 80s novelty when it isn't

And also to be fair, G1 haters are as bad as Bay haters...less bad IMO I shouldn't say "as bad", but it's the same kind of mentality of just trying to ruin other peoples fun who clearly know something is stupid and maybe even take enjoyment in the stupidity

>>85145138
If it makes you/them feel better I've switched that display out a while ago.
>>85145164
>black set
Why would I want my Sentai team to all be the same colour?

>>85146473

I got the tiny Devastator redecoed in green, not that crazy dog-sized one. It's pretty neat.

And I have Fall of Cybertron Bruticus. And CW Swindle, but only because he's one of my favorite Cons.

>>85146524
Should have got CW Bruticus. FoC one is not good.

>>85146524
Bought legends Devy because it had the complete sets.

>>85144546
Hey look you were right.

>>85146004
>>85144483
>>85144925
>>85145116
>>85145199

>>85146546

He's okay. At least Blast Off is a shuttle.

>>85146023
The designs would probably be the first thing Bamrise would look at, if they approved of a western adaptation.
They'd probably hire someone they know like Katoki to do the designs.
Even so, I wouldn't expect a good adaptation.

>>85146075
>real robot
C'mon nigger. Look at that newtype bullshit it would do it in Z and ZZ. It's a little more realistic than usual but not the most.

I still earnestly believe that AoE is a good movie in some other timeline. Lucky Charms isn't in it. Having him gone opens up screen time to develop Marky Mark and his daughter's relationship. Throw in some autobots just hanging scenes and you might have something.

>>85146842
In that same alternate universe, they didn't cut out the tv spot exclusive of Hound and Bumblebee dancing while Crosshairs sits in the background bopping his head.

Also with the new kid in TF5, I think they're going to try and give Cade another kid to care for.

I heard Derrick Wyatt got into a twitter shitfit over this tweet, anybody got any screencaps?

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>>85146881

>>85146897

Who gives a fuck what he thinks.

>>85145960
And they were almost worse. There's concept art of their "weapons" that went full Beast Wars-- Skids is pissing all over, while Mudflap is farting a big exhaust cloud.

>>85146906
Well he's not wrong though.

>>85140281
Ruthless Optimus makes Grimlock redundant though.

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>>85146920
They were really cut from the movies too.

Their updated vehicles were still spotted though.

>>85146594
Hey non TF fan! How's it feel to post in a TF thread?

>>85146897
He's right.

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>>85146990
can't Bayformers and Geewunners just get along?

oh wait nevermind

>>85146990
No real TF fan likes Michael Bay.

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>>85147024

>>85147024

Well, not the person.

>>85138663

Goddammit. I know that every TF they shit out is going to look hideous, but they could at least have painted him the right colors.

Well, at least he's not a trio of motorcycle mermaids.

>>85147018
This guy is not a Geewunner, he's some Doug Walker esque retard who doesn't know anything about Transformers but thinks that because he vaguely recalls some shit from the 80's it makes him an expert on the subject, because all the franchise is to him is another Hot Topic nostalgia T to buy

>>85147024
No real TF fan is you

>>85146897
>TF movie twitter states a fact: this is not a cartoon
>Wyatt shits himself in rage and thinks the movies are shitting on him and all the stuff that came before

Settle down, chin lover.

>>85147237
How can someone pretend to be a Transformers fan when they like Michael Bay, who objectively does not make Transformers movies?

Are you also a huge Zack Snyder fan?

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>>85147121
>>85138663

>>85138663
He doesn't even look like he's wearing a t-shirt with a popped collar. He looks cool, but he's only Hot Rod in name.

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>>85147283
a face only a mother can pretend to love.

>>85147278

He makes Transformers movies. He just spends too much time on things that aren't Transformers.

When a scene is actually ABOUT them, most of the time it's spot on.

>>85147291
That's usually for a lot of bots in the series.

>>85147300
>>85147283

Fuck. Yeah, his head is still hot garbage but at least this way it actually looks like they were TRYING.

Which is why they didn't do it.

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>>85147304
It's like Godzilla foreplay.

>>85138663
Who's he gonna wake up after they get frozen in carbonite?

>>85140172
It's less him being a crazy murdering sociopath, and more him being clearly a PTSD'ed soldier, traumatized by the continual fighting to the point that he can barely function anymore. SO he's still violent, but that violence has a hint of sadness

>>85147278
Because it's its own thing as part of the franchise. Why are there fans of shit things when there are lesser shit things about the franchise to love? There are fans that like it, little kids that like it and collectors that like it. No point in telling us it's shit, we already know that, but there's a following and you can't deny it.

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Look, I hate to admit it but bay did preform significant service for the Transformers genre.
It was on the verge of death and Hasbro was desperate to jump start the spark and like a traveling salesman bay shows up with promise to make TF again, to which he somewhat did.
>The wrong way.

>>85147405
You know, if he did the GI Joes instead of Transformers, he might've revived it better. I mean army guys are his forte'. He would probably piss on lore but he would've probably enjoyed it more than filming blank spots for CG.

>>85147278
>How can someone pretend to be a Transformers fan when they like Michael Bay, who objectively does not make Transformers movies?
IDK, how can someone pretend to be a Transformers fan when they know nothing about Transformers? Take a look in the mirror poser.

>Hurrr I saw the movie when I wuzzakid
We all did, we all saw, collected, and read much more than you, fuck off

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>>85147424
You have a point, G.I.Joe would've been better from him.
>And Steven Spielberg would made a better director for TF instead.

>>85147565

He's already a producer, I still wonder he never went whole hog.

>>85147700
He was one of the guys who wanted the robots to be mute

>>85147444
If that was true then you wouldn't like Bay, kiddo.

>>85147761

No he isn't, that was the higher ups at Paramount.

Bayformers are like a form of cancer that do everything you'd expect from one except it won't let you die.

>>85147761
Jesus Christ, why does Hollywood have such a stubborn resentment for the shit they adapt?

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>>85140600

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>designs still look like piles of garbage
And WHY would they ever change? You'll still watch it. You don't care. You'll watch anything. Fuck you.

>>85145310
>if you want to consider Beast Wars a true "G2" since "G2" was just G1 extended
Nah, Gold and Silver were basically extended G1. Hell, we see Ho-oh at the end of the first episode.

>>85147424
Well, seeing how the Hasbroverse now includes G.I Joe and Transformers living amongst eachother, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a cinematic take on Revolution.

>>85147300
That looks so much better. The face is still garb but everything else is passing.

>>85144503
There's a pretty good chance better designs were made but were rejected. It happens a lot.

>>85148049
But I don't. Well, I don't PAY to watch them.

>>85148539
I wish I could find it, but there's concept art of Jetfire where he's this decaying EVA looking space jet. Instead we got a hunchbacked Scottish farting thing.

Basically everyone in Hollywood should be rounded up and gassed.

>>85144503
>LET'S MAKE THEM ALL LOOK LIKE IRON MAN!
I want hollywood to die, perhaps that'll stop this retardation

>>85139131
You clearly don't know how bad some of the series are.

It's simple: Transformers fans don't give a shit about the story in the movies, they just want to see the robots.

>>85148605
>That one that made him literally a Valkyrie
Lmao

>>85148605
My favorite is this one concept of Soundwave with a G1 style face and includes a design note of "head is IMPORTANT for fan reaction"

>>85139131
Literally the only people who like them are Chinese people. Nobody else.

>>85138663

You do realize they love to misname characters until sometime before the movies are released, right? It's supposed to be a trolling/misinformation tactic.

>>85148687
is that a reference to Bumblebee shooting his head off?

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>>85148761
No, movie Soundwave wound up not having a G1 face at all.

>>85148411

It's already in the works.

Although oddly, they're leaving out The Transformers.

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>>85147765
>If that was true then you wouldn't like Bay, kiddo.
>he only knows G1 from the movie
>he doesn't buy toys
>he isn't aware of anything after BM

>>85148867
>not havint a G1 face at all

That's about as G1 as prime gets, it has the traditional crest and eyes emulate the visor

Only thing not G1 about it is lack of the mouthplate

>>85149205
what does Michael Bay have to do with any of that?

Do you think Michael Bay collects Transformers? Do you think he watched any of the Unicron Trilogy, Animated, or Prime? Do you think he read the comics? Do you think he's ever seen a Transformer toy in his life?

Serious question: are you Chinese? Because only chinamen are this blindly devoted to the worst director in the history of Hollywood.

>>85149306
The idea is that only someone who's never seen at least...idk half of the TF media would think Bayformers is the worst

> Because only chinamen are this blindly devoted to the worst director in the history of Hollywood.
Fuck off to MCU threads /tv/, sick of you polluting this board with shill garbage

>>85145408
what were they thinking with the head? is it mandatory for Bayformers to look like bugs?

>>85149711
>what were they thinking with the head? is it mandatory for Bayformers to look like bugs?

They are literally that stupid. They just don't care.

>>85149604
The only TF media I haven't read/seen is Kiss Players. I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that Bayformers is the absolute bottom of the barrel.

>>85140600
I'm actually fine with most of the design, other than the Bumblebee face. I really don't understand why they went with that.

>>85149780
Yeah. It's mainly the face and color scheme that annoys me. Hot Rod not being red and yellow is like Optimus not being blue and red. And we've already gotten bots in the Bay movies before that are mostly black with differently colored stripes. I'm so fucking tired of this tactical black look in movies.

>>85149775

Energon.

>>85149775
If you think RID1, Armada, Energon, or Cybertron is better than the Bayverse just kill yourself

For as much as Bayformers gets wrong, it's still not Pokemon tier garbage...just MCU tier garbage

>>85150008
I liked Cybertron.

>>85150028

Me too.

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>>85150008
Those are literally all better than the Michael Bay movies.

The fact that you think Michael Bay is even of the same caliber as the MCU shows you have no higher brain functions.

>>85148867
Soundwaves head would have fit pretty well within the Bay movies since it's not as human with the visor and mouthplate combo.
I remember reading some of the older IDW comics and it would go into that creepy Bay-esque art style. There was a scene in which Soundwave was raiding the Skywatch base during a protest, I feel that design would have looked PERFECT for the Bay movies.

>>85144503
>implying the original rangers looks weren't trash

>>85150008
>Armada has inter-factional intrigue and a clear story arc for Stsrscream
>Bayformers has the robot peepee on the man xD so funneh

>>85150008
>>85150064
At least the Transformers movies aren't afraid to call characters goofy and toyetic names. Can you imagine if they treated names like MCU?

>>85150064

You sir, are a damn dirty liar.

>>85150173

Armada had badly done intrigue and a generic story arc for Starscream that matters nothing in the grand scheme of things when the actual plot, dramatic timing and dialogue is fucking awful is what you mean.

It's garbage, so is Bayformers but it's Garbage that is over in 2 hours and atleast has good CGI to go "aaah" at.

>>85150008
I grew up with Armada, Energon and Cybertron. Fuck yourself

>>85146004
90's kids are the worst.

>>85150064
Let's not get ahead of ourselves now. I say they're on par with one another and that the nips just shouldn't touch transformers beyond animating and designing toys.

>>85150235
See
>>85144546
>Chinks love them, mostly because they are an entire nation of peasants.
>There's a few die hard Bay fans in the TF fandom but their argument is mostly "all Transformers is bad but the Bay movies had the most money spent on them, ergo they are the best."

>>85139945
Arrival to Earth still is one of the most epic scenes ever for me. Music, cinematography, progression, all fits together like a 4 minute masterpiece.

>>85150173
Bayformers confirmed for Beast Wars movies.

>>85150235
>he only watches dubs
>he pretends to be a transformers fan