Suicide Squad

DCEU Rebirth

We give up.

>>85124541
WB is gonna mess with Wonder Woman because surely we can get it right THIS time!

>>85124568
I feel bad for that movie now.

Post some shit and then get on with our lives.

>>85124541
Russo Brothers are so based because they are fans of the comics, and make movies largely that THEY would want to see and put audience expectations as a secondary (but important) goal.
DCEU has largely had directors hamstrung from the start in their not being fans of the comics, or are having higher ups squashing them flat with directives. Dunno what to say or how it can be 'fixed'.

>>85124541
>What happens now /co/?

It makes tons of money regardless of reviews and WB continues with their line of profitable films.

So, you know. "Just like Transformers".

>>85124568
Reshoots! All the reshoots! Throw money at the problem!!

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>>85124541
I honestly believe the best course of action would be to move to TV, making the DCEU part of the Arrow multiverse.

WW, JL and the rest get released as TV movies. Nobody reviews those.

Ezra shows up on the Flash show.

This just killed all the goodwill for SS, WW and JL combined so might as well just downscale.

>>85124630
Were you paying attention when BvS underperformed at the box office? It still made money but not nearly as much as they projected.

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>>85124541
>32% like
>98% wts
I'll storytime The Eltingville Club ITT as you all argue, that's what happens now. It is spectacularly on-topic.

>>85124541
Wasn't it rated fresh?

>>85124541

I dunno, I'm going to go see it on Thursday and make my own opinions first.

If it turns out to be bad like the reviews say, then likely not much will change because apparently WB executives can't delegate creative decisions worth a single damn and I doubt that they'll be smart enough to fix the problem by firing them anytime soon.

>>85124568

Yeah, regardless of whether this hugely negative blowback is deserved or not, it seems like the executive production team reacts to it in the worst way possible.

>>85124630
But instead of Transformers it will have a really loyal fanbase.

>>85124767
>>WB doesn't need "critics" to make lots of moneyNeat

Again, Transformers keeps pumping out sequels that make tons and tons and tons of cash no matter how bad the reviews are.

The DCEU won't be any different.

People finally realise that Disney pays critics and never give a shit about reviews again.

>>85124710
Wasn't Ghostbusters 2016 also a 98% wts?

>>85124568
I'm still not convinced that Gadot can act.

And considering she has to carry a whole movie by herself worries me.

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>>85124809
Stick around for part 2.

>>85124630

Transformers' entire audience is overseas, though.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=transformers.htm

See for yourself. Domestically, every movie since 2 has had diminishing returns. Meanwhile, it cleans up in the East.

>>85124630
BvS didn't make as much money as they wanted, and films doing poorly can definitely have a snowball effect, anon.
WB is now 0/3, and you know they're going to mess with Wonder Woman and JL, and that'll most likely make it a 0/4 or 0/5.

>>85124541
You laugh because of rigged it is. Have you not seen the ratings for that whole foods anti god movie?

>>85124805
Wrong: critics don't exist anymore; they have been replaced by tumblrinas, who wll judge your movie on the number of minorities and quips it contains.

>>85124843
>implying cape movies hire real actors and actresses
lal lel lil lol lul. Why do you think Marvel hires nobodies?

>>85124829
Why would they be crying? Whether you like it or not, their movies are doing much better financially and critically.

>>85124541
Well, I'm seeing it on monday, so...

>>85124630
Transformers has been making less and less domestically with each new movie.

>>85124799
It hurts my soul that the DCEU becoming the Transformers of comic book movies is the best result they have to offer.

DC deserves better than this. They should BLOW IT ALL UP and start over. I'd post Mad Stan if not for the storytime ITT.

>>85124679
Yes the verse that killed everyone important in Arrow and took most of Batman's storylines.

>>85124541
Reminder that BvS started off at a 41-44% before dropping down to its current 27% in a matter of days.
What score do you think Suicide Squad will have in a week?

I really can't wait to see how WW turns out, especially if Skwad underperforms

>>85124882
>Why do you think Marvel hires nobodies?
Why are you bringing them up? I don't care about who Marvel casts, but the fact that Gadot can't act and she's the lead in the movie worries me.

>>85124863
>>85124907
>i-it doesn't count!
Yeah, I'm sure Hollywood hates foreign money...

>>85124891
>critically
Keep crying.

>>85124541
It goeson. I don't know what there is with the reviewer. Maybe they are getting sick of comics movies, but as a comics fan, I loved Suicide Squads.

>>85124923
Just multiverse not same Earth.

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>>85124894
You should torrent that shit.

>>85124918
>DC deserves better than this. They should BLOW IT ALL UP and start over.

Green Lantern was supposed to be the stat of their Cinematic Universe. When it bombed, they blew it up and started over.

Now MoS and BvS and SS are the foundation of the Cinematic Universe. You want them to call ANOTHER do-over?

They can't, anon. For better or worse, they've got to see this through. (protip, it'll be "worse")

>>85124937
>I don't care about who Marvel casts
No one does...

>>85124941
>Keep crying.
How does that imply I'm crying?

>>85124925
15%

>>85124613
Russo bros literally made one good movie "winter solider"

>inb4 civil war
It was awful

>>85124863

>Age of Extinction

>Domestic: 245 million

>Overseas: 858 million

Jesus Christ. That's almost four times as much.

I doubt the Suicide Squad has nearly as much overseas draw.

>>85124918
>They should BLOW IT ALL UP and start over
You mean what they already did after Green Lantern?

Third time's the charm?

>>85124992
But Suicide Squad was supposed to be third times the charm...

>>85124894
Seeing it Friday. Only opinion that matters to me is my own

>>85124957
Its already a multiverse. But we wont see Grant crossing over anything soon. But it would be fun if Ezra did.

>>85124999
I'm not bothered about DC still existing. I want them to exist, I'm just worried for them because they're not doing too well. You do know you can like Marvel AND DC, right?

>>85124630
As a fan of comics, is that what it's all about, the money, not the characters and stories themselves?
It's embarrassing what they are doing to the characters, no one is getting any joy out of these films, well except those that make money out of it.
Which is a point a viewer, a fan, who cares about the source material should never make.
Comparing it to Transformers, Jesus, that's how you know the situation is bad.

why the fuck was the other one of these threads deleted?

Is suicide squad going to have problems in China since El Diablo's face tattoo is a skull?

>>85125045
Its WB thats fucking uo their movies. Panicking iver the wrong things while they let Timm put his fetishes on the small screen.
They are doing fin ine everything else even its some shit we dont like.

>>85125074
I guess you haven't read Miller's Daredevil then.

>>85125083

The bigger problem is them not knowing who they ARE. They're as recognizable as Batman/Superman, outside of the Joker, who is barely in it.

>>85125119
But I like both, though. Why would I want to continue digging a hole if I don't a hole to dig?

Do you guys remember when being a fan of things wasn't depressing?

>>85125153
You can't like dc if you like marvel, anon.
one has cooties

They give up and pump out formulaic and family-friendly Marvel clones to appease critics and mass audiences.

Comic movies are fucking dead and we were fools to ever think we would see the great classic stories and artwork come to life.

I can't even imagine what the RPM is gonna be on Kirby's corpse when the Fourth World material is pillaged and raped.

>>85124983
Civil War was better than Winter Soldier though.

>>85125136
Yeah, but that doesn't matter if people literally aren't allowed to see it. China has laws about nothing having skeletons in it. Too spoopy or something. It's why lots of video games need separate version for china, because they have to redo a bunch of skulls and skeletons to be corpses or whatever.

>>85124541
well, first of all that want to see is going to drop hard

>>85124597
they've been trying to figure out what the hell to do with her in live action for 60 years

took 30 years just to get her first show on the air, and she's had more cancelled pilots than Batman has had movies

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>>85125168

Yes, because I don't tie my sense of self-worth to companies and products that I have no control over and can effectively articulate my own personal likes and dislikes.

Has Ostrander given is opinion?

He was pretty vocal about being hyped to see it, but nothing since he went to the premiere.

>>85125234
>>85125266
This was all going pretty realistic until these pages

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>>85124544

With a entire new cast, please

>>85125335
Can you fuck off? Nobody is reading this shit.

>>85125360
I am.

>>85124963
Nah.

>>85124992
Sounds like the Universal Monster Universe they keep trying to build.

Next up: Tom Cruise discovers a female mummy in Afghanistan, becomes a mummy, and is recruited by the Catholic Church to be on a superhero team.

>>85125427
Eh, sounds better than the DCEU so far and Sofia Boutella is hot

Is Dracula Untold still canon?

Well that made me ill

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>>85124541
>What happens now /co/?
Now? Now we begin the cycle afresh. Although I guess we're already on stage 2 for WW.

>>85125544
To think that would apply for non-Snyder films

>>85125168
Yeah, but I couldn't buy stuff back then and had to see movies with my parents.

That's why I've given up on being a fan of new things. Wait and evalutate, chummer.

>>85124541
We're probably gonna get another Justice League PR stunt to ensure everyone the film is FUN, the director is having FUN, and that the movie will not be awful despite everyone knowing that it will be.

>>85125609
Yeah, someone with more effort than me should really go through and edit the "Snyder's" to "Warner bros".

>>85124679
>WW, JL and the rest get released as TV movies. Nobody reviews those.

Do you have any idea how much money they'd lose by doing that? They've already spent those budgets. Even a $100m worldwide flop would be $100m toward paying off that debt.

>Ezra shows up on the Flash show.

Again, simpler to never use him. They'd be stuck (presumably) unable to recast him as a movie character until Ezra's contract runs out, unless they wanted to buy him out of it. Using him at his movie rate would just destroy the budget of any given week of the Flash show. You'd literally have to have him appear over several seasons to make it pay back from the show's budget, or get a new contract - in which case, better to get someone with a lower quote.

You're right though, this isn't working.

>>85124541
I'll probably like it, same as the other 2 DCEU films. Probably continue streaming camrips of the Marvel films, might actually see Black Panther in cinemas though

>>85125637
For having actually seen Suicide Squad, the movie was actually fun and good to see.

I mean, I didn't particularly like BvS but I sure as hell enjoyed it more than The Hulk, Avengers 2, Star Wars VII, and Iron Man 3.

>>85124541
Hopefully they kill the DCEU, let the Disney monopoly pressure die out, then make a proper DC movie universe that isn't forced, is well thought out, and is run by someone competent.

>>85125544
>fans claim they will never be fooled again

To be fair, as someone who got burned twice on MoS and BvS, I suppressed all hype for SS. I wanted it to be good, but when the bad reviews inevitably started rolling in I wasn't surprised at all, and I'm glad I never got hyped. I expect absolutely nothing from Wonder Woman.

>>85124805
Were the critics wrong about Mos and BvS?

>>85125360
Same.


Post more.

>>85125814
Well, SS is actually good. Am I the only one in this thread who has seen it?

>>85125782
>Iron Man 3
Don't know why people keep bringing this one up. I only saw it this year on tv because IM2 soured me on that franchise. I mean, IM3 sucked but IM2 is probably the most boring directionless mess of a movie I've ever seen.

>>85124541
>>85124541
We shitpost until about DC movies until wonder woman

>>85125074
>insecure Xfag makes himself feel better about his taste by completely dismissing Y
Gee, ain't this a first.

>>85125516
No.
Also, Johnny Depp Invisible Man.
Fuck it all.

>>85125875
Iron Man 3 was just as bad, and I'm amazed people don't think that. 2 was just a bunch of scenes, but 3 was literally 2 hours of actors being muh wacky improv and mugging.

>>85125875
>>85125782
IM3 IS a fucking good movie.

And so are the Incredible Hulk and Avengers 2.

SW VII and BVsS sucked, theough.

>>85125343
Keep the Batman cast + Amanda Waller though.

>>85125875
IM2 was kind of fun
>rich genius to mirror Tony
>cool laser whip things
>Iron Man V the United States
>finale fight

>>85125949
It was bad but it had a direction, it knew what story it wanted to tell even if the story sucked and the execution was bad. IM2 was just...it was a bunch of nothing, really.

>>85126001
This, never get the hate against IM2. Nor IM3 either.

>>85125964
But that's a wrong opinion.

>>85125964
IM3 is awful if you're an adult male

I guess girl gamers get off on the cute kid or something, and young kids would like it cause of the jokes and it's disney

>>85126035
A bad story with no drive or focus is just as bad as a movie with no story.

>>85126035
>IM2 was just...it was a bunch of nothing, really.
Completly wrong.

IM2 has a strong story. it deal with Tony having to face his own mortality and his relationship with his father.

>>85126046
maybe you just have shit taste.

>>85126078
>IM3 is awful if you're an adult male


Great fucking movie. Fun from start to finish with cool fights.

>>85125869
Most of the people who are going crazy of the reviews haven't seen it I can guarantee you. DC fans AND the haters.

>>85126053
It's not .

>>85126104
Dorkin failed to predict Whedon's fall from grace after AoU

>>85126101
That's not what happens in the movie. He quips a bit, then defeats the villain in 2 minutes, then he gets angsty, then he pisses in his suit, then he fights with his bbff in a very melodramatic way that has no weight, then they make up and fight the stupid bad guy again,

What needs to happen is focusing less on movies and more on TV. DC has always had much better results with their shows than movies, with shit like the DCAU and Teen Titans being widely loved. Despite the divisiveness on /co/, the CW shows are on top of the network too. I don't see why WB doesn't put more effort into television, they're clearly not winning with movies.

>>85126105
No, it's poeple who don't like IM2 and 3 who have shit tastes.

WHEN WILL DISNEY STOP PAYING OFF REVIEWERS FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>85126215
Why do I keep reading this? It's sickening

>>85126213
You've gotta be joking.

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>>85126202
Who thought the man could be worn down like that so early?

>>85126205
>That's not what happens in the movie
This is what happens.
>He quips a bit,
And there is nothing wrong wioth that.

STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING ABOUT QUIPPING YOU DAMN FUCKING MORONS!

QUIPPING IS, AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF CAPE COMICS DNA. PEOPLE WHO DAMN FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT QUIPPING ARE FUCKING FAKE COMICS FANS!

>then defeats the villain in 2 minutes,
The armor in Suitcase fight is fucking awesome
>then he gets angsty, then he pisses in his suit,
You forget the part where he is about to die and there is nothing he can do.
>then he fights with his bbff in a very melodramatic way that has no weight,
It has a lot of weight and is a fucking awesome fight
>then they make up and fight the stupid bad guy again,
And you forgot to mention Hammer who was awesome in that movie.

>>85126301
>bitch about SJW shills pumping up Ghostbusters
>support no-platforming

>>85126252
No.

>>85126321
Post the older stories if you have them.

>>85125360
I'm reading it. And its pretty funny. keep posting

I'm racist
I'm sexist
I'm a cis male
I like boondock saints
I'll probably like suicide squad

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>>85126251
>Why do I keep reading this?
It's sickening.

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>>85124541
>rotten tomatoes

What exactly is wrong with this film?

>>85126321
art's good but why all the recycling

>>85126492
Go sign your petition and cry in the corner.

>>85126518
it's not Marvel.

sjw's seem to hate it so it's probably good.

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>>85126382
I don't have them. And they are less relevant anyway.

>>85126518
Nobody here has yet seen it (I'm watching it this Friday) but the general reviewer consensus is that it tries too hard and is too mediocre in story/theme.

>>85126521
It fits the scene. They're just sitting there.

I can GUARANTEE you that Suicide Squad is better than any marvel movie out there and reviewers are just hating on it because its not disney

>>85124541
Studios literally do not give a shit about the quality. They only care about if it's profitable or not. So we'll have to wait and see how well it does at the box office before any sort of changes are put in place

>>85126586
>>85126614
hmm...

>>85126678
yes?

>>85125360
I am.

Justice League is dead on arrival sadly. Not only does it need to establish the remaining members, but they also need to revive Superman(who's benched for god knows how long) which will be fucking terrible in execution. Also choosing Steppenwolf was a mistake.

>>85126648
yeah and there's subtle redraws to each panel so it's actually not that bad

DC trying to catch up to Marvel is just sad to see. Because that's what it is, it's not even an attempt to appeal to DC fans. It's just a game of catch up.

Consider the fact that they are introducing nearly all of their big hitters in one movie while Avengers had years to do it. Consider that they had their two big names face off while Civil War had years after even Avengers came out.

They were afraid that capeshit would die out as a trend. Turns out they were the ones to kill it.

>>85126740
The ending to the justice league will be the flash retconning everything so they can start over.

>>85126740
Wonder Woman is dead on arrival too.

There is no more hype for anything DC movie related and there won't be until they scrap everything again.

>>85126720
The relation between the two posts. Honestly, I just hope it's okay enough to suffer through because I'm only going to see it for Joel and Will.

>>85126831
They're only killing their own movies

Marvel movies are going strong, and we'll have the MCU until Phase 21.

>>85124541

Those negative points are just meaningless buzzwords.

>>85126650

You didn't even put bait on the hook.

>>85126586
>this bad movie had mediocre reception, which is more than I personally thought it deserved!
>which means I can safely ignore any and all critiques made by entirely different people for an entirely different movie for entirely different reasons because I don't understand how review aggregation works!

>>85126835
Even if Flash does, what's the fucking point? They haven't learned a damn thing this far. Not only that, but I'm burnt out on reboot/retcon shit thanks to Xmen and Terminator

No more company wars, thank fuck.

DC lost, it's over. Throw in the towels and just go watch the TV shows.

>>85126586
Ghostbusters and Suicide Squad are both about 20% higher than they deserve.

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>>85124541
Hopefully WB lets DC form their own studio that makes creative choices like Marvel has.

>>85125821
>Were the critics wrong about Mos and BvS?

Yes.

>>85125821
no

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>>85126998
>no more company wars

>>85126991
I dislike reboots and retcons but this is one of the few times that a reboot is absolutely necessary.

Unless JL or WW are miraculously good,the Flash movie will be used to reboot everything.

>>85127024
They don't have any such person who cares enough to do it. Any entity that buds off from WB is going to be just as inept as its parent.

>>85127086
>the Flash movie will be used to reboot everything.
Why waste money, when they can reboot it all in the justice league?

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>>85125168
I remember the Dark Knight trilogy well.
Then man of steel came out....

>>85127024
Hopefully that happens and DC just does standalone movies like the DTV cartoons.

They can keep the cast they have now, just don't bother making it a connected universe.

One movie Affleck and Cavill are in WW2, another movie they're Victorian.

Embrace the Elseworlds.

>>85124937
Marvel's casting has been perfect. Its astonishing how they not only find the right actors, but also find actors who are keen on the characters and universe.

>>85127209
Chris Evans actually did not like being Captain America at first (probably still doesn't) but his directorial debut was a massive flop

>>85127024
IIRC, they sort of did that post BvS when they Balkanized operations and productions. That was when DC Films became a proper entity co-led by Johns. What is interesting is that he and his operations focused companion Jon Berg were supposed to answer to Diane Nelson, but I thought Johns had taken her position with his promotion to President of DC Entertainment last week.

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>oh no rotten tomatoes doesn't like the movie

Fuck all of you who judge a movie by this stupid percentage.
If the audience like the movie and it makes money, the DCEU will continue.

>>85124613
Can't you be more of an underage fanboy /tv/ friend

Fuck this board, man

>>85125821
Only the ones that gave negative reviews.

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>>85127095
Johns cared enough to step up to the role in WB. He may not be the best author nowadays, but he generally loves all DC (rip batman)

>>85127024
>>85127289
>Warner Bros. has promoted Geoff Johns to the post of president of DC Entertainment as it continues to reorganize the executives handling its DC movies.

>Johns retains the chief operating officer title and continues to report to DC Entertainment topper Diane Nelson. Co-Publishers Dan DiDio and Jim Lee also report to Nelson.


>The promotion of Johns to the presidency of DC Entertainment actually took place two months ago but the studio had not confirmed the move until this week.


>The studio disclosed on May 17 that it had given oversight of its DC Entertainment movies to Johns and Warner’s Executive VP Jon Berg through a recently created DC Films arm. Since then, Berg has been continuing to report to Greg Silverman, the president of creative development and worldwide production at Warner Bros. Pictures since 2013.

>Johns has been a driving creative force along with Greg Berlanti behind DC’s successful television properties “Arrow,” “The Flash” and “Supergirl.”

>The moves are part of an evolution of the executive structure at Warner Bros., which saw mildly disappointing results from “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” and has been attempting to rev up its output of movies based on the DC characters, including Aquaman, Wonder Woman and The Flash. It also announced in May that Ben Affleck had expanded his role in the DC universe by taking on the duties of executive producer on Warner Bros.’ “Justice League: Part One,” in addition to starring as Batman.

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/geoff-johns-promoted-president-of-dc-entertainment-1201824871/

>>85127025
You can't actually believe that.

>>85127305
>a-as long as it makes money everything is fine!
why do dc fans care if they make money? in fact, shouldn't you want them to not make money off shit movies so they can actually start making good movies?

>>85126229
Why wouldn't you? All it takes is a couple of bucks for 200 or so people and you can wreck a movie's box office. Disney is full of despicable Jews, so what's stopping them?

>>85127160
Why would you post that? It looks awful.

>>85127121
Rebooting the entire franchise with Justice League makes no sense based on what we know of the movie's storyline.

However,the DCEU has not done anything sensible so they could use JL to reboot everything.

>>85127209
>Marvel's casting has been perfect. Its astonishing how they not only find the right actors, but also find actors who are keen on the characters and universe.
Marvel actually credit their good casting to a singular woman. Sarah Halley Finn

In fact, she casted every single MCU film except The Incredible Hulk. She decided Chris Pratt was going to be Starlord, even though the director didn't want him. Sarah brought Chris on set for audition anyway, against director's wishes, and in the end he DID get the part because he was perfect.

Finn is basically the unsung heroine of the MCU. Well, almost, several interviews have since pointed out how important she was in getting the right people for the role. So now we know who she is.
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Sarah_Halley_Finn

>>85125427
Dr. Van Helsing
Vatican

>>85126518
Weird pacing, cliche third act, bad music, from what I've read.
All seem like things that don't bother me.

>>85127428
>if I don't like them, no one can

Guess what, I don't give a shit about your opinion.
I like the darker tone of the DCEU, I enjoyed Affleck's portrayal of Batman, the soundtrack, the costumes and then visual.
I'm not going to watch a capemovie expecting great storytelling or pacing.
But unlike CW I watched until the end.

Fuck Barreddit Allen and Luthorberg tho

>>85126617
How are those things an argument.
They should just say that "it's not marvel so we will not even try to enjoy it"

>>85127591
>I'm not going to watch a capemovie expecting great storytelling or pacing.
but wouldn't a capemovie with great storytelling and pacing be better...?

>>85124991
I think it only made that much was because it was shot in China.

Hopefully Katana will sell it for some nips.

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>>85124541
>What happens now /co/?
Now people get hyped for the Wonder Woman movie. They bring up Patty Jenkins' credentials, and how much they liked Wonder Woman in BvS, and how awesome it looks, and detractors will point out the flaws over the course of the trailers' release, until general consensus is that it will be fair to middling, and DC's first decent movie.

Then it will be released and get a 27% on Rotten Tomatoes, with critics bashing the lack of a clear villainous threat to this demigoddess, overuse of slow motion action shots that add nothing, poor acting by the lead who now has to carry an entire movie rather than a walk-on cameo, and a sloppy script. This will incite a wave of laughing Chris Evans images by Marvel fans and claims of critic bias and paid reviews by DC fans, as GotG Volume 2 was released earlier that year to rave reviews.

It will end with grumbling that at least Justice League later that year looks good, and the cycle will begin anew.

>>85127681
Yeah but they are very rare. Almost exceptional.

>>85127755
It's not hard to be better than the MCU.

>>85127715
someone screencap this

>>85124541
We focus on comics and cartoons and leave that movie shit on /tv/ where it belongs.

>>85127715
>>85127791
I would but I don't think anyone would like a screenshot from Clover.

>>85127776
unless you're WB

>>85127681
>>85127763
BvS has all that and more.

>>85127776
It shouldn't be hard but DC would find tying their own shoes a Herculean task.

>>85127776
>It's not hard to be better than the MCU.
That's what Warner believed. And then they just kept screwing it up.

Remember that comicbook movies used to be as pathetic as videogame movies? It's not THAT easy to make them. And Warner is just making their own job harder by rushing things.

>>85127776
Just like all these other Cape movies have proven, right?

>>85127838
>BvS
>good pacing
Oh now I know you're baiting.

>>85125360
It's retarded and edgy... I kinda like it.

>>85127715
We can't get excited for WW

The actress is a Zionist and hence an enemy to social justice

>>85127884
>"lol i use velcro anyway who looks stoopid now"

>>85125548
>that power girl

UUURRRRRRR
BONER.

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>>85127791
>>85127823

Nothing, the fans love it and it makes a fuckload of money, the SJW critics continue to hate the DCU because not muh funny and quippy not serious muhvel comik-book movie :(, and based Snyder continues to deliver GOD tier comic-book inspired films

>>85124541
They go back to making animated movies for the DCAU. Also give Netflix the rights to make season 3+ of Young Justice. That or start a new animated show with Netflix.

>>85126202
Isn't Whedon like still popular with normies?

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>>85128015
just remember: this is the future you chose.

>>85128015
THIS

SNYDERFANS UNITE

>>85127856
Warner Bros.
DC has no acual DC Studios like Marvel has.

>>85128020
But they have never stopped making animated DTVs, Killing Joke just came out, and the JLAction show is coming out soon.

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>>85127999
Marvelous.

>>85124541

it goes down in movie history and is discussed years down the line ala MoS with plebs disliking it and patricians loving it?

at least no one will forget it in 2 months like people forget all marvel movies post raimi's spider-man films

>>85128015
>I know, Daddy. I'll never take my lips off of Zack Jr. He tastes too good for me to let him go any where else but my butt, but we both know that's only for premiere nights.

>>85127420

Believe it or not, there's this thing called independent thought where people can have opinions that differ from bloggers.

>>85128122

SS was directed by David Ayer you dumb cunt, but since you're mentioning Snyder you should realize the man is a true auteur film-maker and has a unique style and actual directing skill, unlike the no-name yes-men marvel hires to do their bidding on their tv-tier 'films'

can you even name a single marvel director that isn't the russos? (who by the way are tv tier directors who did the show community before their first movie gig with cap 2)

pathetic indeed

>>85126007
This stuff is /r9k/ levels of entertaining
I love it

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>>85128232
>realize the man is a true auteur film-maker and has a unique style and actual directing skill

Truly the Spielberg of our generation.

>>85128015
Snyder is a true hero and will be the chosen one sent to defeat the greedy critics.

>>85126343
Aw yes, the No True Scotsman fallacy.

I have faith in the Wonder Woman movie
Im sure it will give some direction to all movies following it

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My suicide.

>>85128232

>SS was directed by David Ayer you dumb cunt, but since you're mentioning Snyder you should realize the man is a true auteur film-maker and has a unique style and actual directing skill, unlike the no-name yes-men marvel hires to do their bidding on their tv-tier 'films'

His directing claims to fame are End of Watch and Fury. Everything else he wrote, and everything else he's directed was trashed by critics. Slow down on the nuthugging, bro.

>>85128542

what about training day you massive dumb cunt?

>>85128563

You mean the movie that was DIRECTED by Antoine Fuqua you dumb fuck?

>>85127715

Screencapped.

>>85128576

>Everything else he WROTE, and everything else he's directed was trashed by critics

wow, how dumb are you friend?

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>>85124541

>disappointing

DC fans will continue to blame Marvel, when DC has proven itself incapable of the slightest bit of self-reflection.

>>85128691
And Marvel has? Their idiotic orgy of quips and soulless fanservice makes them automatically better?

>>85128610

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ayer#Filmography

Movies Ayer has written: U-571, Training Day, The Fast and the Furious, Dark Blue, S.W.A.T.

Movies Ayer has directed: Harsh Times, Street Kings, End of Watch, Sabotage, Fury

Movies Ayer has directed with positive Rotten Tomatoes scores: End of Watch, Fury


Keep mouth breathin', retard

>>85128691

>DC, Marvel

first off dipshit WB is doing these films, and secondly if I'm a fan of DC it does not mean I'm not a fan of Marvel, this is not /v/ and your little childish console war

>>85127474
>She has a casting director credit on every Marvel Studios film except The Incredible Hulk.
Kek, the one where the protagonist left.

>>85128764

he wrote training day, and that wasn't trashed by critics, in fact it's a oscar wining movie, I'm sorry for you if you don't understand what I'm writing

>>85128831

I said DIRECTING claims to fame in my original post, you fucking illiterate.

>>85128760

That's all a matter of personal opinion. Though they continue to be ranked okay-to-good by most and consistently rake in money.

Why do they have a need to change something that works? When it no longer works, they'll worry about it.

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>>85128774
>this is not /v/ and your little childish console war

>>85128835
change this to WB autists and Disney autists

DC comics are thriving right now and being loved by fans while Marvel comics are going to shit and relying on shock tactics to sell

>>85128882
>moving the goalposts

>>85128691
Blame Marvel for what?
The movie will most certainly meet box office expectations, that BvS mess has. What the fuck is Marvel to blame for? Have they been sabotaging the studios and I dont know?

Havent seen it yet, and I can say fuck the critics. BvS was shit, yes, but at the end of the day I liked, shitty as it was. Ive no doubt SS will also be shit as they say, but Ive got a feeling Ill enjoy it even more than I did BvS.

>>85124541

I mean i'm still going to watch it. Slightly more hopeful that it will be good because Jeremy Jahns liked it.

As for the universe....there are only so many times casual audiences can see a rotten rating (even though the tomatometer isn't really read as it should be) before they give up on the universe completely.

I know people are calling for a reboot. But i'm not getting any fucking younger and I have zero interest in another Batman or Superman origin story.

>>85128927
DC comics are exactly as well-loved as they were 5 years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago.
Marvel comics are selling like they always have, whether you like then or not.

>>85128997

>Moving the goalposts: what you're doing by trying to dodge the fact that I said "His directing claims to fame are End of Watch and Fury." and you responded with some inbred horseshit BUT HE WROTE TRAINING DAY

>>85124755
Fuck that, WB proper. The mouse would have Harry Potter, DC, LOTR, Looney Tunes, and The Matrix.

Do you understand the implications of this? Proper toys, new television shows, theme park attractions.

Please God...

>>85129066
>Marvel comics are selling like they always have
Marvel comics used to sell well.

>>85129149
okay.

From what i've heard the major problem is editing - resulting in bits of broken narrative. The exact same fucking problem as BvS.

Is this studio interference? Because I find it hard to believe that multiple directors have trouble with this basic thing.

>>85129082
Please be joking.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if Disney fanboys unironically want a monopoly at this point.

>>85129137

>Marvel went back in time, replacing all the pristine DC films with horrible theatrical cuts

You nefarious fiend!

>>85129149

Having the #1 selling comic, and 3 out of the 5 top-selling comics in the past two months isn't selling well?

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>>85129189
Do people really think it's clever to say "okay" or "k" after losing an argument?

I see this shit on Facebook between 15 year olds.

>>85129149
They still do if you lower the bar enough.

>>85128882

no retard you wrote >>85128542

>Everything else he wrote, and everything else he's directed was trashed by critics.
>Everything else he WROTE

my response here >>85128563 was

>what about training day you massive dumb cunt?

because he WROTE training day

get it now dum dum?

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>>85129248
>huge event comic gets #1 for a few months
>meanwhile all the other A-list comics sell like shit

Bravo. If you wonder why Marvel does stupid events every 3 months, this is why.

>>85124882
>who wll judge your movie on the number of minorities and quips it contains.

From the reviews it seems like suicide squad had the majority of marvel fare beaten on both counts.

>>85129358

>Every other movie he WROTE (as opposed to directed) and every other movie he's directed besides those two (Fury and End of Watch) were trashed by critics, so it's stupid to consider him a visionary, auteur filmmaker when he's had two mild successes as a director.

Get it now, knuckledragger?

>>85129198
>Is this studio interference? Because I find it hard to believe that multiple directors have trouble with this basic thing.
According to leaks, there was two cuts of the film. One done by the director and one done by the guys who made the 2nd trailer of the film. The 2nd trailer people ended up getting majority control of the final editing because of how popular the trailer was.

The issue it seems, is that Warner normally leave the director alone. But when they feel like interfering, there was no one higher up in the chain who understands movies. So they try to fix a movie but have no idea what they want to change.It seems in the case of SS, they just said "make it like the 2nd film trailer".

>>85129379

Selling 100,000 more copies than DC's top property, and at about double the price is a pretty big victory, yeah.

>>85129060
It doesnt need a reboot. Aside from Lex Luthor, theres nothing in the DCCU that cant be salvaged
They just gotta make good movies. I think these bad reviews are exactly what the DCCU needs. Its obvious that they are desperate to pull a MCU hit but maybe if they lower their expectations they will stop delivering these over-edited, over-thought movies

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>>85129481
But Batman!
Batman, batman.

>>85129481
>nice victory
>literally 1/3rd of DC comics sales
>Iron Man, Spiderman, Thor, all the Marvel mascots and a-listers selling like absolute shit

In what world is that a victory?

>>85129432

first of all dumbfuck, I was talking about Snyder as the auteur not Ayer, learn to read maybe?

secondly my point about training day still stands as it was not trashed by critics and it's a film ayer wrote and a film you failed to mention

>>85128774
If this wasn't your first such thread you'd know damn well this is exactly like his console war. Hell, it's fucking worse, seeing as this shit is fought on a lot more fronts - comics, movies, cartoons, TV shows, games.

>>85129563
Batman batman batman!

>>85124541
I go to watch the movie and decide the critics are wrong

Oh god please let the critics be wrong i really want this to be good.

>>85129416
I need to know who keeps making these marvelous edits.

>>85129481

>event in which your entire comic roster is getting mauled killed and humiliated, named after a previous famous event
>just barely selling more than DC's one A lister monthly

truly the kings of comics

>>85129632
reddit

not even kidding

>>85129660
Well I'll be damned.

>>85129563
It's a victory for people who failed math.

>>85129568

1. Claim to Fame = Something to be boastful/proud of

2. Ayer's DIRECTING claims to fame are two decently-received movies

3. You claimed a movie he WROTE was mark of DIRECTING claims to fame.


Quote me saying anything otherwise or some evidence proving one of those points wrong or you're only in this to be an intentionally thick dunderhead.

>>85124941
>Yeah, I'm sure Hollywood hates foreign money...
They sorta do, they get a much better cut from us cinemas than they do from foreign markets.

Like they like the money but if they want to maximise profitability you want something that works in the us market too

Kinda sucks that even normies who don't really know or care about this stuff are shitting on DC, because it turns the whole brand into a "lol so stupid and bad" thing. Know what I mean? Like, the comics are in such a good place right now but now everyone will just be talking about how shitty the movies are.

It's like the way Green Lantern was referenced in Deadpool. Everyone hates Green Lantern now.

>>85129481
Dude Marvel is doing pretty shitty right now not just by sales, but by brand value.

All their AAA heroes like Iron Man and Spider Man are selling laughably bad. That's terrible for Marvel and those IPs.

The only victory Marvel is having right now is selling Star Wars comics to save their asses.

I don't know how any Marvel fan can say they're happy with the state of Marvel comics right now, just like how I don't know how any DC fan can say they're happy with DC movies.

>>85129659
>just barely selling more than DC's one A lister monthly with a #1 on the cover

Ah, I remember all the chest pounding over the Nu52 #1's. Was gonna make DC #1 moving forward. Good times.

>>85129758

>house with Superman and Batman on their roster
>isn't #1 already

top kek m8

>>85129735
Real talk now?
If youre still reading comic books youre asking to be disappointed
The last comic I read that I enjoyed was Superior Iron Man, short and sweet as it was, and that was some good time ago.The quality of comics overall is shit nowadays, Im surprised theres still market to warrant making them in the first place.

>>85129729

You serious nigger? people love the DCU, just look at the like/dislike ratio on the IGN review of SS, people are defending it with a passion, it's like the hate train for the new GhostBusters but in reverse, DCU truly is the people's champion

>>85124566
This desu

>>85129965
Same thing, really

Warner Bros. is making DC indefensible.

I adore Man of Steel. I appreciate Batman v Supeman - I prefer the theatrical cut even. But if this Suicide Squad is as rushed and edited to hell by reactionary executives as reports and reviews suggest then really what is the point of defending DC and these executives by proxy?

What is the point of being a DC fan?

The same studio that lets Zack Snyder morph classic characters into his vision of them without regard for audience reception goes onto to bully and butcher David Ayer's film until it looks like a mishmash of music videos and bad improv painted over a first draft of a real movie.

I cant trust Warner Bros. and I cant trust DC.

Like this, all of this, literally all of this 4chan shitposting! Its not even fun to defend DC on an anonymous imageboard! If the people making the movies wont protect them then why should I?

I havent seen Suicide Squad yet but walking out of it I will know rather or not I am still a DC fan.

>>85130022
No, not really. Disney is successful. Marvel is treading water and relying on Micky's mouse tits to stay alive.

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>>85129621
It was never gonna be good. You gotta stop giving them your money when they suck.

>>85130053
>The same studio that lets Zack Snyder morph classic characters into his vision of them without regard for audience reception goes onto to bully and butcher David Ayer's film until it looks like a mishmash of music videos and bad improv painted over a first draft of a real movie.


It's the Nolan curse. One director was given creative liberties and captured lightning in a bottle and they got greedy and tried to get it to happen twice.

>>85127259
He did end up loving the character after a while though, kind of like everyone else when they realize that he's much more than just a patriotic joke.

>>85129621
They've really been quite correct with cape movies so far.

>>85130194
Disliked the third Nolan film but yeah Begins and Dark Knight were really something.

>>85129508
Anon everything Superman related is fucked and won't change. So no I'm not happy

Its simple, we pin our hopes on dr strange

>>85130476
>Disliked the third Nolan film but yeah Begins and Dark Knight were really something.
To be fair, he had to re-write the third film because he lost the Joker. We would never know what it was meant to be about now.

>>85130636
I think it might be save...but it will be hard since Snyder and WB fucking ruined it.

>>85130405
Fuck your right.
This does not bode well

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>>85130778
Probably would've been a masterpiece if Heath hadn't died.

Well then again, wishful thinking.

>>85131772
Every popular website is used for advertising utter shit now. Only 4chan and twitter aren't getting paid for it.

>>85131903
>4chan
>not FULL of shills
This your first hour here?

>>85132303
4chan isn't getting payed for that. The shills are. Learn to read.

>>85132440
>Every popular website is used for advertising
Well, as I said, 4chan is being used for advertising. Either you meant something else and couldn't express your thoughts adequately or you don't even know what you're trying to say. Which one is it?

>>85124964
The obvious solution is to do Flashpoint during Flash. Or have a big reveal that Barry messed with time once and as a result, a darker universe emerged from his time travel

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Surely Wonder Woman will save the DCEU

>>85131942

What the fuck is a dcfag? Who doesn't read both? Am I supposed to skip Morrison or Hickman because not muh company?

Who are you people? Is this your /v/ console wars bullshit? What the fucking shit

>>85132697
>Guys this is totally not part of my contract

>>85130778
He wasn't even sure he definitely wanted to do a third one until way after Heath.

>>85126518
Reviews seem to indicate it felt like two movies mashed together, a decent but dark one and a really shitty and cheesy one.

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>>85133169
Remember friends, if it's certified fresh that means it's a good movie.

>>85132697
I can see the signals for help.

>>85131772
>pays for youtubers to advertise
>it's illegal because their viewers didn't read the description box!
lol

>>85127160
Why the hell would Butch Hartman draw this after Tuff Puppy has been off the air for 4 years?

>>85124541
we realize that its just as shit as we thoughjt, and watch it regardless to garner our own opinion. But without any overly eager hopes.

>>85133280
>No matter what happens, WB will step in and run Patty's movie through their grinder
>Patty will be forced to go back to TV after another mixed to bad reception

Oh well

>>85124541
If there is a God, the cape movie trend dies forever and you people leave the fucking board.

If there isn't, they reboot it and it goes on for a few more years.