Batman #4 Storytime

Well that was fast

>>85109075
Norrin, I've been meaning to ask.

Why do you always do that horizontal OP pic instead of just posting the cover right away?

Having already finished this: this issue is fucking great. Like, not even shilling, it's the best of the run so far. Get hype.

>>85109157
uhh batman your face is fucked up

>>85109225
Why must King write suffering

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>>85109235
My secret is that I rarely read before storytiming, and dodge previews. I preserve my first impressions for the floppies in the morning.

>>85109173
>Alfred

"I mean, I mean nobody. Certainly not the butler who raised me."

>>85109225
Looks like one member of the strike team got a little a head of himself.

>>85109285
>inb4 BLACKED

>>85109261
BvS flashbacks.

>>85109242
>>85109261
>Turning the Snyder-fied All-Star Superman meme into an actual sequence

KING YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>85109261
>>85109242
>that All-Star Superman parody

Somebody send this sequence to Grant.

>>85109242
>>85109261
oh my god, this all star superman homage is brilliant. shows the fucked up contrast between metropolis and gotham perfectly

>>85109261
AMAZING

>>85109319
Not the fucking Batmobile

>>85109301
Says the vigilante.

>>85109345
>that last panel
this is so great, why do people hate King writing Batman again?

>>85109225
Well fuck I was really rooting for Gotham

>>85109328
Reminds me of that Red Panda arc where he tries to train a Superman-expy to be his successor but it goes kind of poorly.

>>85109285
>she hugs diversity-robin but not alfred
what a slut

>>85109384
Fucking Waller

>>85109285
Why is he calling him Mr. Thomas?

>>85109345
>that joke
oh I'm laffin

>>85109400
>damn
>not going all the way and saying god damn
But you did it with ASS reference so why not the ASBAR reference

>>85109366
Did he have to further damage the bridge just to cover up his destroyed batmobile?

>>85109397
How new are you that you thought this could end well?

>>85109400
>>85109413
HA

>>85109413
Ha

>>85109400
>>85109413
rekt

>>85109366
>>85109384
>the dog tags all add up to 24 somehow
>which leads to X
>which is Task Force X
>aka the Suicide Squad

bullshit like this is honestly why I love comic books.

>>85109384
>that shady ass connection
take to /x/ batman

>>85109424
>How new are you that you thought this could end well?
I wasn't under any illusions that this wouldn't go horribly horribly wrong but was it so much to ask that Gotham could get a symbol of light?

>>85109384
>not 52
Ya fucked up king

>>85109075

I can't wait for mainstream audiences to find out how hard King goes. Omega Men and Vision are beyond brutal

>>85109384
That's some classic quizmaster nonsense right there. Gotta love it.

>>85109400
STOP HELPING SUPERVILLAINS, YOU SOCIOPATHIC BROAD!

>>85109426
Why is the government so interested in Gotham now didn't they seal it off once?

>>85109413
Why is Lois' dad always such a pussy? There's like no version of him that isn't a total pussy.

>>85109328
Pls don't bully Gotham, Batman. He's cute and pure.

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>>85109463
Reminder to pick up Sheriff of Babylon 9 today
>>85109187
It's a wallpaper of the cover.

I noticed the gallery image on the DC website is already formatted 1920x1080, so thought I might as well differentiate when it works well.

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NEXT

>>85109400
has she gained weight?

>>85109413
>damn
>not the goddamn
King's referencing point a shit

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>>85109459
Fuck that escalated quickly

Who are the Monster Men?

>>85109422
Lettering is harder than it looks.

Just look at how slipshod Coming of the Supermen's was.

>>85109458
The city he named himself after was partially founded and designed by one of Bruce's ancestors. A suicidal manic-depressive. This isn't the place for such a thing.

>>85109442
Waller sucks ass at her job
>I made a huge mess that lead to Gotham and Gotham Girl being mine controlled by psycho pirate and killing my people
>but this is your fault batman, beg for my help!

>>85109516
JL: >>85109456

>>85109426
Psycho-Pirate and Hugo Strange?

Wel that sounds like the worst combo to trust ever

>not just getting on the ol' batphone and calling supes

>>85109384
Adam West Batman riddle-solving up in this bitch

>>85109442
Has anyone ever just straight up punched out Waller?

>>85109476
I thought Gotham was supposed to be a Superman expy not a Wonder Woman one

>>85109532
Doesn't shit like this happen every fucking time is DC's government retarded

>>85109547
His Superman is dead.

The other one is fighting a Lich Robot Doppelganger

And the Chinese version is an outright bully that uses his powers to filch money off of people.

>>85109413

More panels of General Lane being viciously beaten, I demand it!

>>85109603
They don't even have a SHIELD.

They've got Checkmate. And no one gives a flying fuck about Checkmate.

>>85109404
What was the name of the guy he tried to train?

>>85109488
It's still not clicking. The pacing of this issue was so weird and this book has none of the subtly King offers in his writing. Gotham's character development is very hard added, he wasn't even defeated by the city and his crusade was his own. This is just so meh. Cmon King, you can definitely do better.

>>85109476
MAN OF MURDER

>>85109693
Mr. Amazing.

>>85109714
SILVER AGE GOTHAM WOULD NEVER DO THIS

WORST RUN OF BATMAN EVER!!!!!!!

>>85109659
They have Argus.

>>85109749
I can't find anything on him can you provide a image or something.
Thanks.

>>85109703
It's not ideal, but I definitely think King has remembered how to write for the broad appeal that Grayson had.

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>>85109366
>>85109384
Batman pls

>>85109755
Nobody gives a fuck about ARGUS. what we need is the good ol' Human Defense Corps.

>>85109853
It's nowhere near the quality of Grayson though. Grayson was a normie pleaser and at the same time intelligent. This book is neither. What this book is, is questioning readers intelligence by questioning Batman's intelligence.
>I've only known you for few weeks but I think you could be best suited for Gotham.
>BTW I never ask for League's help in Gotham crises, those who are proven metahumans.

>>85109994
Jesus christ man, shut the fuck up. We get it, you don't like it.

>>85109426
Remember times when Catwoman, Harley and Ivy were part of picture that showed Batman's villains?

>>85109845
http://decoderringtheatre.com/shows/red-panda-adventures/thirteen-at-table/

http://decoderringtheatre.com/shows/red-panda-adventures/the-rookie/

http://decoderringtheatre.com/shows/red-panda-adventures/the-end-of-the-beginning/

>>85110004
>Don't criticize muh King
Fuck off faggot. It's what these threads are for. You're free to exit. Just close the window to reach your safe space, it's not that hard. Don't tell others what to do.

>>85109994
>BTW I never ask for League's help in Gotham crises, those who are proven metahumans.

this ain't a justice league book, faggot. you can tell because this book doesn't suck dick.

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>>85109994
>>I've only known you for few weeks but I think you could be best suited for Gotham.
>>BTW I never ask for League's help in Gotham crises, those who are proven metahumans.

These are weird criticisms. Do you remember the #1?

The whole point is that Justice Leaguers would be too busy doing their own shit to specifically save Gotham.

A superman-level hero who's home is in Gotham is exactly who Batman was looking for. And that's what he got -- it's not really his fault that they worse at his job than he expected.

>>85110004
Kek, why are you so triggered?

>>85110236
Fair enough, still don't care for Gotham's development. This would work better overtime but here it's hastily put together predictable outcome driven solely by plot conveniences and I don't really have much stakes in Gotham to give a shit.

>>85109560
Would love to see that.

>>85110028
Catwoman I'm ok with being a good guy, she leaned that way for a long time and it's kinda ridiculous to put her alongside the other villains of Gotham who do truly fucked up shit while she just steals things. The other Sirens, yeah.

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>>85109380
I'm a fan of King's, but his writing seems so flat in this, and then all of a sudden there are these little great moments and glimpses of hope, and then it becomes flat again until another glimpse.

Snyder seemed to have depth, but King's writing is just one layer or maybe two, and that's about it, and it pains me.

The comic always looks cool, though, so I just wish his writing could be as cool too.

>>85109285
So another black guy/blonde white woman romance incoming? I feel like black comic characters date them than any other type, lol.

>>85109271
King's Alfred is on point.

So do we think Waller is telling the truth, or is everything essentially going as she planned?

I can't imagine she wanted her guys wiped out, but who knows

>>85110711
I don't think she's in control of any of this anymore, but plays it cool just to save face.

>>85109714
GOTHAMURDER

>>85109380
Because the first 2 issues were pretty bland. Writing for the trades and all.

>>85110028
honestly I like all of them better as heroes(Catwoman's never been a convincing villain, Ivy's amount of usable plots is minimal, and Harley I like too much to want her to be a villain, especially one tied to as toxic a character as modern Joker), Batman has plenty of other female villains that can be used, even if they're kinda obscure(I could see some interesting things being done with New52/Rebirth versions of Lady Clay or Orca)

also this arc is amazingly awful, probably the worst of the Rebirth titles I've read so far

>>85109426
>n52 Freeze
>no n52 Riddler
ffs

>>85109334
Thats bullshit. It contrasts Superman and gotham the inexperienced hero. Superman's presence alone should fix shit no matter what city he is in.

Also to anon who wants to cite that stupid No Man's Land issue, don't. It was the biggest case of bat wankery I have ever seen.

>>85109313

At least Duke's better than Miles.

>>85109285
>dont do this to me bruh
>i finally got a white chick
>cmon bruh cant we skip the heroing this one time
>goddamn it alfred not you too

>>85109736
idk but what's the team with the monkey? they're cool

do people like this book? I have it on my pull but will probably drop it after the next issue if it's not really good

>>85110236
where's Elongated Man or Plastic Man or Dead Man or like Martian Manhunter up to?

>>85111377
they're the same shit
if Tim dies though I'll fucking freak on Duke though

>>85109426
>King calling out Snyder destroying Gotham every six months.

>>85109488
Do it, Gotham. Be the hero that Gotham deserves but not the one it needs right now

>>85109442
>Twenty eight
What?

Anyone else feel like Gotham's development into Murderman willing to destroy the city was a bit too...sudden and rushed?

The book is pretty entertaining, but it kinda falls apart when you think about it too much.

>>85110028
Catwoman is just a kleptomaniac cat burglar who doesn't kill anybody. Harley is a task force x lackey.

>>85111533
It's Psycho Pirate and Hugo Strange fault. Reread the previous issue

This is entertaining so far and this has been the best issue so far of this run. But this looks more like setup and King still seems to be finding his stride.

>>85111627
>looks more like setup

well, yeah. it's the 4th issue.

>>85109285
oh fuck off

>>85109412
Alfred is a butler, part of his job is having manners and addressing people with formality.

>>85109488
just call the justice league ffs

>>85111767
I'm not talking about Alfred. I'm talking about Bruce.

>>85111717
It's certainly a story in itself, but many writers use the first arc of longer runs for introducing characters, the direction they'll be going in and for setting up things.

>>85109319
Isn't this like the second batmobile he's totalled in as many issues?

Didn't Tom say he'd base his writing on the experiences he had when he was part of the CIA? I see nothing hinting at it. Or did he deal with brainwashed men of murder?

>>85109380
he writes Batman really flat. Pretty much no emotion 90% of the time.

>>85112232
Really? I find his Batman's personality better than Snyder's, who wrote every character as one note. King is the complete opposite of Snyder.

>>85109703
I think the weird pacing is more linked to the limited amount of pages than anything else. This part of the story would work better with more pages but not to the point of needing 2 issues.

>>85111533
>have a hero complex
>end up killing 27 people out of the blue
>your parents get killed the same night

nah, it makes sense for him to snap
I think people are too used to heroes witnessing so much fucked up shit and getting past it

>>85112376
>limited amount of pages
Rebirth books have 20 pages as opposed to standard 22. Not that big of a difference.

>>85112175
>Or did he deal with brainwashed men of murder?
>islamic fighters

>>85109242
>>85109261
jesus..

>>85109328
>>85109345
uh, Bruce, how did you THINK that line of accusations and questioning would go?

>>85110028
All three are not in Gotham currently.

>>85111924
I have wondered the same. It seems oddly formal and creates distance between Bruce and Duke -- maybe on purpose?

Or maybe they want to distinguish him from the previous Robins as someone who is of equal status (i.e., not a child) and should be thus addressed as 'Mr'.

Anyway, I choose to interpret is a means to keep Duke apart from the family.

>>85112166
I think this might become a recurring joke at this point, Batman having enough money to cover the costs of a new Batmobile every 3 days.

>>85109400
>Damn Bat-man is behind you
>Not saying the Goddamn Bat-man

>>85109476
Is he scared of necks?

>>85109703
he doesnt actually feel that way anon, its psycho pirate getting in his mind

>>85112019
Nightwing #3

Wait, I missed last issue. What happened?

>>85112797
Hugo Strange is using Psycho Pirate to control the Gothams

>>85109703
I've not been a big fan of King's Batman so far, but pacing is the most misused word on this board. Most of it comes from /tv/ using words from a completely different medium.
This issue was nicely paced and structured compared to his other issues.

>>85109328
>Lift it out of the air

How would you even go about doing that?

Is King losing his touch?

>>85112440
Well, just after this >>85109442, a page showing Batman arriving to Gotham's parents home and founding them dead and Hank hurting a soldier would build the tension more effectively before Bruce's monologue on the next page. And it would allow the artist to show Gotham's reaction to Batman's speech, how uneffective it is.

A few pages more can allow more build up here and there.

I think the story pacing is fine. Easily my favorite Rebirth book.

>>85110461
>Snyder
>Depth

>>85109413
Wasn't it Mrs Waller?

I'm sad Lane wasn't saying how he'd pound Batman even if he manages to get past security, only to find Batman standing there.

>>85109285
don't make me drop your comic, tom kuck

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>>85112672

Psycho Pirate and Hugo Strange are already in jail. Waller has governmental mandate.

The only one Batman can arrest for this is Gotham.

>>85109442
Cue Batman resisting psycho-pirate Batgod style. Then using him to cure Arkham patients.

>>85113523
whine whine whine

>>85109285
Shiiieeee dindu d muffin incoming

>>85113523
Roger, you are off your meds again aren't?

>>85113523
Oh my god, a superhero in his own comicbook pulling off something incredible?

This is incredible. It's almost as if those comics are about them pulling off incredible feats.

also Batman in his career got mindraped so many times he should be ready for it now

>>85109941

I wish that book was canon again
>Secret armed forces joint operation dedicated to fighting aliens
>winds up fighting demons instead
>kicks their asses so thoroughly that they claim a level of Hell as a strategic military asset by the end of it

>>85110474
Duke's 16, you sickos. He's pure and not for sexual

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>>85109426
>>85109442
What did you think was gonna happen?
>>85109435
Amanda Waller is secretly the sister of the Riddler

I join the ones saying they're not feeling this. The series so far isn't...bad, but it's not as good as I'd expect from King. Guy made practically the best comics the big 2 have had in a long time before Batman, and now it's just...average with some great moments.

I think it's because the plot in and out of itself isn't very interesting. Vision, Omega Men and Grayson were all really cool ideas executed very well, while this is "just" superhero story #1513254 . Still well executed, but lacking that inherent spark which made his other works great.

>>85113523
>PP: And now you're afraid!
>Batman: Always am.
>PP: A-a-angry!
>Batman: You want me madder?
>PP: Sad?
>Batman: You're not the one dressed in black.
>PP: Happy. You're happy now! So happy that you can't...that you won't...
>Batman smiles and cracks his knuckles.
>PP: Too happy! Too happy! Strange! Strange, help me! It's not working!
>Hugo Strange: (over the comms) My dear friend, Hayden. Must I remind you of the very first rule of my vocation?
>Batman winds up his fast.
>Hugo Strange: Do no harm.
>POW!

>>85109435
This also means the 28 guy was left alive for a reason.
Hugo Strange's keikaku at work

>>85112797
Batman dug up some info on the Gothams' origins, didn't find anything wrong with their backstory and decided to trust them but at the end Gotham and Gotham Girl were ambushed by Strange and Psycho Pirate

Wait, why did all the tags lead to 24? Was someone trying to clue Batman in on it?

>>85109285
last issue she implicitly fucked her brother, now she's going to get the big black cock?

>>85109285
Wait.. is this little shit going to be Robin?

>>85109261
I'm just waiting for an anon to edit the "Not my pa!" superman in the middle of the explosion. Bonus point if they add a gloomy filter to the page.

Also this was fucking amazing. Maybe King's Batman run will reach the quality of his other works

>>85109242
I also like that he is repeating what Batman told him in the past

>>85109400
>>85109413
You know, bat-wank is so freaking great when it doesn't require to put other superheroes and villains down to elevate Batman.

>>85109485
That's when Gotham got earthquaked into a sinkhole

>>85109560
Nemesis got close, and he won the staring contest.

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>>85109601
But he is a Superman expy.

>>85116402
he just now needs to scream GOTHAM CITY HAD ITS CHANCE! while destroying it and we have gone full circle

>>85112874
Well King shouldn't use useless spreads like >>85109225 then. It could've been one page spread and it would've worked.

>>85109459
So,
Gotham shows up
Batman takes him under his cape
Gotham becomes controlled by Psycho Pirate
Under PP's control Gotham kills 27 of Wallers troops
One of those troops sees who Gotham is, discovers his identity, and kills his parents.
And that leads to the still PP controlled Gotham on this page here, right?

>>85116731
Yeah. It could have been used a better transition, but it's still pretty clear what happened

>>85112766
There's nothing that suggests that he's still under Psycho Pirates influence and character development through bullshit plot convenience is still inorganic and bullshit.

>>85116899
>There's nothing that suggests that he's still under Psycho Pirates influence
The fact that Gotham Girl is still under his influence does. Stop forcing your bullshit ideas and ignoring parts of the comic to make them work.

>>85116958
Sure he did what he did under their influence and it probably is all part of Stange's master plan, that doesn't mean King, the guy who loves writing morally grey characters, isn't trying to portray Gotham's development as genuine. Until plot is clear enough you see what you want to see and I see what I want to see, eh boyo?

So /co/ which Rebirth titles are you enjoying the most right now? I think DC is on the right track with their comics this time around.

>>85117081
The plot is really clear, you are just stupid

>>85117094
Nightwing, New Super-Man, Flash, Green Arrow and to some extent Superman. I know All Star Batman will be a blast because we're getting good Romita Jr and premise is fun, Supergirl and Night of Monster Men and new Middy book will be awesome because Orlando. And I'm actually looking forward to Teen Titans.
Still my top 3 DC books aren't even mainline DC. Sheriff is the best book on the market period and Flintstones and Future Quest are all better/more enjoyable than anything Rebirth so far.

>>85117081
You write like an idiot and it comes as no surprise that your reading skills are to match.

>>85109459
>>85109476
IF YOU LOVE YOUR PARENTS SO MUCH

YOU CAN MOURN FOR THEM

>>85117253
Ah OK, so predictable plot driven solely by plot conveniences, with no character development and lack of real stakes is somehow good. Thanks for informing senpai, now this book somehow became so much better.

>>85117323
Nice argument, subscribed.

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>>85109426
>America doesn't sit by while its cities burn

>>85109384
I wish Hugo Strange and Psycho Pirate were on the actual SS

>>85111533
I think it's important to remember that Gotham is still really young, like 18 or something.

>>85117664
blame the previous administration

>>85117094

Green Arrow, Titans, Flash, Aquaman and Batman.

New Superman was okay but I want to see where it goes past the first issue before making an opinion about it.

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I'm only following Batman out of all the Bat books, do I really have to buy the issues for Detective Comics and Nightwing to fully understand the Monster Men story? For fucks sake I better not.

>>85118677
Just skip the crossover and pick it back up when it stops.

>>85118677
Not really. The other two stories are pretty straight forward and simple

>>85109426

Remember when Amanda was competent?

>>85118677
probably not

those two other titles are just there so they can get the crossover done with in two months instead of having a six issue mini

>>85109366
>>85109384
>>85109400

Wait, why? Why would that clue even exist?

She's not the fucking Riddler. Did they do it just to be clever? Like an injoke among government staff?

>>85117253

It's clearly not very good.

>>85109285

>Page has a lot of replies to it
>Triggered white boys

All the time

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>>85109384
>24th letter
>>85109442
>28 people dead
>24+28=52

>>85109075
Thanks OP!

>>85112849
>complaining about how the flying man can defy physics

>>85119470
>>28 people dead
>>24+28=52

MOOOOOOOOODDDDSSSSSSSS

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>>85119470

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>>85109345
>27.

King, you're a coy bastard.

>>85119470
STOP
T
O
P

>>85112591
It's a code name to use in their transmisions. Dick refers to Bruce also for a codename in the Grayson run.

>>85116731

I dunno it sounds a bit too convenient that Hugo anticipated this.

>>85109532
Even in old school SS, Waller was hardly a master tactician. She got by on sheer luck most the time.

>>85109400
Top fucking kek I love this run so much

>>85110236
>>A superman-level hero who's home is in Gotham is exactly who Batman was looking for.

He should just phone up Alan Scott.

>>85115210
holy shit read a comic book dude

>>85109413
Batman/Waller when

>>85109285
>You will never be triggered by a hug
Feels good.

>>85109285
>/co/ gets triggered by black people once again

>>85120602
Tumblr pls.

>>85109442
Tell me wasent pirate dead? how did he come back this time.

>>85115692
dont forget ebola and then super ebola

>>85120946
When did he die? If you're referring to IC, then Flashpoint shenanigans.

>>85120988
Didn't the devil came to Gotham at one point

>>85120663
He's not wrong.

>>85121041
yea, no biggie though

>>85121117
Which one is worse,Gotham or ___/co/

>>85121282
/co/ is worse than gotham, hub city is worse than co

>>85120995
bullet through the eye.

>>85109285
Finch making her look 12 doesn't help

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>>85109560
Sasha Bordeaux did.

>>85121440
>I resign my side right now
heh

>>85119932
Using Mr. Thomas as a code name is certainly a possibility, but considering that it's Duke's *actual* name, that would be counterproductive and stupid.

It may not be the best King, nor the best Batman, but it has been both great and interesting and certainly enjoyable, getting the trade most likely.

Shame to see nu53 Waller is so useless though.

>>85121524
Best place to hide is in plain sight

>>85121306
Hub city is on its own category though, because nothing is that bad.

>>85121644
But both 'Alfred' and 'Mr. Thomas'? That's just asking for it.

>King is supposedly a fan of Snyder
>doesn't use the "Penny-One" codename for Alfred when talking via comm or out of the cave

>>85111469
No

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>>85120528
>tfw

>>85109384
I love comics

>>85112849
It happened in the first fucking issue....

>>85109384
Did King just Adam West Batman for a second here?

>>85109497
For as all military guys always have fear of something or someone that is superior to them, especially when not under his command

Why do these loser white boys always get triggered when an interracial couple happens?

>>85123408
In this case it isn't even a couple, it was just a comforting hug.

>>85123408
Because shippers are literally cancer

>>85109285
So will Duke be at all relevent to King's run? He came out of We Are Robin, right?

>>85109560

Well Deadshot did shoot her in Secret Six.

>>85123772

He'll be like Tim was in the 90s in the main Bat books. He'll be there, but just there to help. He won't get any characterization. Basically Snyder in All-Star Batman will be doing all of that.

>>85123772
He's getting the Tim Drake treatment, by having him not in the field for a year, rather that pushing him out of the nest immediately ready like they did with Harper

Also:

As King himself confirmed and via the solicits, next issue will be the conclusion of "I Am Gotham". After that, an epilogue (with art by Ivan Reis) in September, along with the start of the Monster Men crossover.

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>>85124266
I thought he was telling the guy to actually read X-men.

>>85109413

Louis won't be happy

>>85124604
Neither will Luke

>>85109497

The thing about people like Lane and Waller is they can't actually be good at their jobs. Because if they are there's nothing for Batman and Superman to do.

>>85124604
Who's louis

>>85109380
>why do people hate King writing Batman again?
They don't, it's mostly just trolling

>>85124569
im still confused by what he means? are the monster men the x men? or is the 'tec team the xmen?

>>85125449
He's calling tec's team X-men, since it's like a group of teens training under her.

>>85109384
https://youtu.be/3D97gwGlMFE

>>85125533
thats what i thought, thanks friend

>>85115129
>last issue she implicitly fucked her brother
What?

>>85109157
physical copy looks amazing doe

>>85121940
I don't know why, but I honestly never liked the "Penny-One" thing

>>85109371
He doesn't try to fix those problems himself, usually he throws money at those kinds of problems.

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>>85125553
EVERY
FUCKING
GOD
DAMNED
TIME

This was actually a really good issue, maybe even the best issue of a Rebirth series so far. I love the A-SS reference and Duke comforting Gotham Girl. And King is the best writer for Alfred in a while.

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>>85109502
>Detective
Tynion don't fuck this up.

>>85109459
Wow, that guy was a real fucking genius.

>>85109529
Strange makes big monster men in some of his appearances

>>85109384
25

>>85126191
He ain't writing the crossover.

Steve Orlando is.
Color me hyped.

>>85109319
Coloring fuck up in the second panel. Batman's skin is colored on the left side as if it was his cowl.

Fuck, haven't enjoyed the main Batbook like this in a long time.

So. Batman. Worth picking up Kings run?

>>85125553
My favorite part of this is that there's no reason for them to start from M&Ms, it works perfectly fine if you just started from Anaconda Malt Liquor.

>Gotham is meant to be Gothams Superman that Bruce could never be
>fucks up

coughALANSCOTTWHENcough

>>85126697
yes it's slow but nice

>>85109532
She is a huge moron

>>85126934
How many books do you guys pull on average. I'm pretty knew to this but does 8 seem about right?

>>85127053
pull any books you want and can afford

>>85127164
lol it's probably just my autism wanting to balance even number of books each day I go in.

>>85126914
He is retired like the weak faggot he is

>>85127204
hahahaha i know what you mean! i generally pull like 6-8, but there are dudes here that pull fuckin everything ya know. its all just what youre willing to support at the end of the day

>>85127402
He's on Earth-2, no?

From a technical perspective this is a very good issue. It has all the beats you'd expect from tom king and this batman arc but ultimately its not a problem of plot pacing as some people are saying, its a problem of emotional pacing. This comic has felt cold and distant for a while, as if the characters are going through the motions. Hell, I felt nothing when reading the tragic parts of this issue. Finch is definitely putting in the effort here to try and score this tragedy as more tragic than it comes off, but King can surely do better than this. He never lets the characters linger on the bad or the good moments, so everything moves by way too fast without a moment to sit. It's not forcing the reader to sit down and think about the circumstances in any way, like omega men and vision do.

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>>85109384
fuck I love comic books

>>85111469
>they're the same shit
They are opposites in almost every way.

>>85127628
Remember the DCU Rebirth one-shot. There's an Earth-0 version too out there with his memory erased thanks to Johnny Thunder's genie. Unless the starheart saved him and he just fucked off to do other shit, I guess.

>>85114379

It would be legit awesome if it played out like this.

>>85117094
aquaman, batman, Detective comics (most recent issue was disappointing tho).

Red Hood was great, never read the old stuff but may check it if the rest of the rebirth keeps up the same quality.

I'm hoping Suicide Sqaud gets better, but i like the new Harley look.

>>85117094
Batman's my favorite, followed by Green Arrow.
I'm also enjoying New Super-Man, Nightwing and Aquaman.
Also the Flintstones and Future Quest, if those count.

>>85130387
>Future Quest
I loved the first issue. Pretty 'meh' on the second issue. Will drop if the 4th issue is as pointless as the 3rd was (it's like the just decided to ignore the first two and do something else for a bit).

>>85130580
Yeah, the third issue felt like a #0. Came out of nowhere

>>85130580
>>85130677
The third was just a filler because of Shaner.

>>85111317
>Triggered Super-fag.

>>85125533
>tfw fucking tec is more of an x-book than any of the actual x-books.

Did the anon that promised to write some lewd incest fics about Gotham and Gotham Girl ever come through?

>>85131329
I'm not even sure which X-books come out at this point. Marvel seems adamant about replacing them with Inhumans.

>>85131360
You don't need anon for that. It practically writes itself.

>>85131360
I'd be happy with any fic or art about Gotham

>>85124211
Think he also confirmed a future ones hot epilogue will be drawn by Gary Frank.

Why does Batman use Bat-mobile at all if he has a jetpack?

>>85131500

the car is safer

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>>85109384
Of course!

>>85109459
Okay now this just seems stupidly contrived.

This isn't anyone's go-to move, much less a shadow government agent.

>>85132305
Yea the whole thing felt rushed.

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>>85109384
This is amazing.

Have they said how these two ass clowns got superman level powers yet?

>>85134745

they bought the powers

>>85126667
It's so refreshing.

>>85135297

..I know that. But wouldn't being able to buy superman level powers be a big fucking deal for the overall DC universe? Like world changing?! Shouldn't Bruce be a bit curious about who is handing these powers out and to whom?!

>>85135942
They got them from the Chinese. No big deal. China makes shit that doesn't last anyway.

>>85119410
Gotta have the world's greatest detective do some deductive reasoning.

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>>85119470

>>85132305
wow it's almost like there's someone who can control emotions involved

>>85134745
they aren't Superman-level

>>85139731
read, nigga, read >>85109225

>>85139821
Gotham had problems keeping a bridge last issue, Superman would have done that with no problem

>>85109075

I like how king puts a theme in most of the chapters. Like how this chapter kept bringing up "fixing things" and after all those times where fixing it doesn't work, fixing becomes destroying at the end

>>85146095

King just confirmed Psycho Pirate is directly linked to Rebirth.

Fuck, I'm so hyped about this book. I thought Batman books were going to completely ignore it.

>>85147705
Of course he would end up connected in some way. It would be a waste if he wasn't.

>>85147705
When/Where was this confirmed?

>>85147889
http://www.newsarama.com/30496-tom-king-psycho-pirate-rebirth-follow-up-batman-5-s-surprise.html

>Newsarama: Tom, I'd like to talk about Batman #4 in a minute, but first can we talk about Psycho Pirate? Why did this villain interest you as someone who you wanted to use during your first arc?

>Tom King: There are two answers. The first answer is what "Rebirth" is about and what it's been about since Geoff first called on the phone - it's about re-joining the DCU, all the books tying into each other, continuity coming back in a big way. And I'm a big continuity nerd. And the idea of using a villain who's not traditionally a Batman villain - he's kind of a Justice League villain - in a Bat-book very much appealed to me.

>So we're saying, like, Batman has to deal not just with these crazy people in Arkham, but he has to deal with the entire DCU.

>On a personal level, I first encountered Psycho Pirate - I was a little old for Crisis on Infinite Earths, but I re-read it insanely over and over again, and seeing him there and what a huge role he played, I was like, why does this kind of weeny, kind of cowardly man - how does he challenge, and why does the Anti-Monitor need him? And then you slowly realize that he has this very specific power that makes him one of the most powerful people in the entire DCU.

>And that always struck me. As a kid, I remember just being thrill by that, the fact that this sort of sickeningly weird guy could somehow hold the entire universe hostage and kill Flash. So… I was always just fascinated with that character.

>>85147889
>>85147969

>Nrama: Well, you mentioned Crisis, and Psycho Pirate was pretty important in that event and afterward because of another ability he has. And with the fallout from the Watchmen-related stuff in Geoff's DC Universe: Rebirth #1, it's interesting to see Psycho Pirate show up now. Is it right to suspect he ties into that?

>King: Yeah, you're too smart for me. I'm trying to hide something I should be hiding.

>The fact that, as established in Grant Morrison's Animal Man, the Pirate remembers continuity that no longer exist, is one of the appeals of having him in this book, and tying him into the story spine of the greater DCU.

>That's pretty vague, but that's the best I can do.

>>85147969
>>85147996
>Nrama: Dude, that's not really that vague. It's important that he's encountering Batman, who is one of only a handful of characters who are aware of any continuity glitches. That's another good reason to use Psycho Pirate in your title?

>King: Yeah, it is very cool. We're working very closely together - I'm working with Pete Tomasi, Scott Snyder and Josh Williamson - tying all these people together.

>So what you're looking at over the next two years is the impact of that sort of first Flashpoint story and how it plays out.

>We all know where we're going. We're free to play, but we all know where we're going.

>>85147996
>in Grant Morrison's Animal Man, the Pirate remembers continuity that no longer exist
Oh shit, I forgot about that.

>>85148014
>I'm working with Pete Tomasi

Rebirth is doomed

>>85148115
It was actually COIE itself that established it. Last few pages are about how everyone's memories of it drifted off but he was the only one who remembered the multiverse and all.

>>85148014
>I'm working with Pete Tomasi, Scott Snyder and Josh Williamson
> Not with Dan Abnett

for some reason I'm worried.

>>85148214
Probably after the Wallys meet he'll be in that book more.

>>85148159

He's doing a good job on Superman.

>>85148277
And I say this meaning that Abnett is likely just going to tease a Rebirth detail rather than have his book be all about that after the first arc. So once he finishes he can pass the plot thread off to others like the main Flash book and just focus on telling stories with his team. So if it heavily involves Wally then it will happen in the main Flash book.

If you mean you wanted him on JSA or LoSH then I don't know. Maybe he's just not that invovled with them.

>>85148376
There is absolutely nothing interesting about Titans besides the Rebirth story with Wally. If they drop that plotline, the book will die.

I guess this also explains why Booth is constantly teasing a Wally solo.

>>85148452
I don't agree with that. Wally is the hook but the character interactions are decent in themselves. And there's other continuity to smooth over not directly related to his return, like I think Priest mentioned in his blog that he's been talking with Abnett about a crossover there.

Wally probably does deserve a solo just based on demand and it would make sense once the lesser books (mainly Cyborg) need to be moved from double-shipping back to monthly or if they cut down on the number of minis.

>>85148674
Once Wally's status quo is settled he'll either move to upcoming JLA or get a solo in 2017. He was never a big part of Titans so I guess it only makes sense to boot him out after a while.

>>85147996
>Psycho-Pirate knows about the three Jokers
Damn, I feel silly for not putting that together weeks ago...

>>85109075
Batman 004 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www69.zippyshare.com/v/zGAr89qD/file.html

~

Batman - Rebirth 01 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/IIxSTHH9/file.html

Batman 001 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www32.zippyshare.com/v/KO5q1Rt1/file.html

Batman 002 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www2.zippyshare.com/v/lcN0QhDr/file.html

Batman 004 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www69.zippyshare.com/v/zGAr89qD/file.html

>>85148674
>I think Priest mentioned in his blog that he's been talking with Abnett about a crossover there.
Ew please no.

>>85149698
Priest is GOAT and Abnett's pretty good himself, so I see no problem.

>>85109400
>those full cheeks
>that round chin
The fucking WALL is coming back, slowly but surely.

>>85151130
She's completely back in suicide squad.

>>85149698
At least itll be over fast thanks to double shipping

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>>85109476
Well let's be honest here, this soldier COMPLETELY deserved that.

>>85109225
>>85109242
Is this some thinly veiled Man of Murder may may?

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>>85109426
>the Joker AGAIN

>>85111377
>At least Duke's better than Miles.
Clones.

>>85111377
I agree. Duke's been bled into the Batfamily at a comfortable rate.

>>85153004
sometimes an ASS is just an ASS

>>85153691
How are they alike in any way besides being black?

>>85116725
a double page spread is more effective when you are reading an actual real world comic book

>>85109328
holy shit that is a good last panel