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"SUICIDE SQUAD" RT WATCH PART 2

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Is there still hope?
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>>85086811
down to 38% on 40 reviews now

i think it found its level
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>>85086811
If its not in the Low 40s by night it won't be fresh by morning
oh wait you are looking at all critics
no wonder its so low
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>GL
>TDKR
>MOS
>BVS
>SS

Can Wonder Woman and Justice League save the DCEU and WB/DC in general?
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>>85086811
>all critics
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First for "SWAD"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSpyqfZcOOg&feature=youtu.be&t=62
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MOM'S GONNA LOSE HER HOUSE
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>>85086842
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>>85086906
Justice League? No.

But Wonder Woman might provide a lifeline.
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>>85086906
>Wonder Woman
Isn't that expected to under perform at the box office even if it's a critical hit?
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>>85086849
Bet they are regretting that decision. Especially Japanese qt now.
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>>85086897
I reckon it can reach a solid 40
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>>85086911
You have to admit she's hot as hell
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>>85086897
Once it hits 50 that's it. It's score is basically staying where it is.
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>>85086943
Because a fun experience is somethibg you should regret. /tv/ please leave
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>>85086961
No arguments here.
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>>85086961
I think she's more cold as a fridge
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>>85086897
And /co/ was so optimistic when the people who tracked Suicide Squad said it might reach a solid ~75% because they were right about BvS
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>>85086911
Looks like Britta from Community.
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>>85086906

>Wonder Woman

Maybe

>Justice League
>Zack Snyder directing
>quippy/light Marvel tone

Yeah, no.
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>>85086811
>That poster
It looks like a hot topic shit my god.
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>>85086971
Yes, that is a common scenario. Have you never done anything outside the house?
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>>85086906
>WW
>GADOT
That bitch can't be saved in comics, let alone her saving an entire failed franchise with one of the worst castings ever made.
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>>85086930
WW has only the chance of sjw good will like what carried Ghostbusters
If its a bad period film you can expect bad reviews
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>>85086849
I love these.
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>>85086961
She looks like a 16 year old with Daddy issues and a wardrobe that came from a thrift store. Acquire taste, champ.
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>normies complain DC movies are too dark
>DC tries making them less dark
>movies flop even harder

Can't we just wait until the 2020s?
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>>85086943
She ruined herself and degraded her pure body to be forever reminded of the panned failure of a movie she did.

Wonder what she is thinking when she looks at it now.
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>>85086961
She looks like Apple from Turbo Kid.
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>>85087048
There's more to failure or quality to the light axis, mate.
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>>85087009
They had fun and wanted to get nice little tattoos about it but you /tv/fags think theyll regret it because of RT.
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DC should let Marvel Studios do their movies and be done with it.
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>>85087065
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>>85087048
well its not even close to BvS territory but this will not bode well
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>>85087085
Disney already has the best Superman movie.
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Suicide Squad is going for a TMNT, Transformers path.

Poor critical reviews, mad bank.

It'll over-perform financially and get great audience reviews.
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I wish my phone didn't hate twitter because Suicide Squad is the top trending thing there
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>>85087065
They are making a suicide squad trilogy like Lord of the rings
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SS version when
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>>85087105
It's not Iron Giant
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>>85086984
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>>85087107
Let's not delude ourselves, we both know this will also tank in the box office.
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>be DC guy
>feel bad that the DCEU is tanking
>see this
>suddenly feel better
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LIGHTS
CAMERA
BANKRUPTCY
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>>85087065
It'll remind her of that time she got tattoos with Will Smith and Jared Leto. I don't see a problem.
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>>85087107
and then DC fans will start the fuck critics meme and basically push all DCEU movies to need to make an obscene amount of money to be taken seriously on some level.
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Why does /co/ /tv/ think every superhero film needs to be the next Citizen Kane?
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>>85087146
That's pathetic. Comics are completely irrelevant outside of comic focused forums.
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>>85087146
Is this real? Is there a chance they finally get it?
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>>85087168
Because when you have a trackrecord as the DC movies has then you should reconsider what are you doing.
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>>85087048

BvS was too gritty. SS isn't gritty enough to be SS.

It's like they got feedback and tried to alter the next movie to match, without caring about if it matched tone.
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>>85087168
Quiplord and Batfleck buddycop movie with Sharktits as their sidekick against Shuma Gorath... in SPACE!
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>>85086984
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>>85087168
Mostly the fact that DC is starting it's massive film universe franchise by shitting the bed and severely underperforming both critically and in the box office

Like superman made 200 million less than they were expecting
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>>85087168
It's more like we just wanted something different from the MCU flicks. Different and, you know, actually good.
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I know /co/ is a bastion of SJWs but you seriously cannot expect me to believe Ghostbusters 2016 is better than this. There's no logical reason why that should be allowed other than clear paid-off reviewers.
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>>85087168
>Anons face when Barneyfag arrives
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>>85087159
I started the fuck RT a long time ago, Ghostbusters pretty much proved me right.
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>>85087182
...But this is a comic focused forum.
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>>85087168
Citizen Kane isn't even Welles' best movie.
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>>85087203
Reshoots were a mistake
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>>85087146
Good thing I don't give a shit about comics like everyone else that has value as a human.
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HOL UP

WHAT YOU TRYNA SAY

YOU SAYIN THIS IS SUM KINDA SHIT MOVIE?
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>>85086943
>Bet they are regretting that decision.
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>>85087128
Iron Giant is a better movie, but less like Super Man.

>yfw they remake the movie and he says CAPTAIN AMERICA at the end
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>>85086961

When she's not dressed like a streetwalker, sure. She looks like a party girl you'd catch VD from.
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>>85087226
I thought that nigga was practically ded.
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>>85086984
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>>85087234
Exactly.

Nobody cares about /co/ . This is just the designated shitposting board.
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>>85086811
ULTIMATE EDITION WHEN?
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Will Ayer be OK, /co/?
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>>85086943
>chink had to be forced into it
>movie bombs hard and fades into obscurity within 3 months
I feel bad for her.
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>>85087248
>that complete look
You can see he is realizing that it is permanent.
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>>85087238

B-but anon, it was just action scenes! Action!
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>>85086943
>Bet they are regretting that decision

they got paid and had fun while filming, don't know why they should regret anything.
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>>85087168
WB shitting the bed in what was meant to start their cinematic universe because they're rushing it and keep changing shit when the previous movie isn't liked

>MOS
>BvS
>SS

They're now 0 for 3, and nobody likes Snyder so JL is going to bomb critically.
DCEU is basically resting on Wonder Woman doing well financially and critically and JL doing well financially.
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>in the arms of an angel plays softly in the background
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>>85087225
Ghostbusters is a fun summer comedy, the reason why it and Marvel movies do better than DC is because they are actually FUN.

Who wants to go to the movies and watch dark and serious movies?
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>>85087283
>FUCK MARVEL

What did he mean by this?
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>>85087225
Plot, special effects, and design work was perfectly servicable in Ghostbusters. Biggest problem was they went for a SNL style wacky sitcom type of humor. As a straight comedy Ghostbusters didn't have to aim very high to be at least passable. They still fell short, but not by the leaps and bounds the DCU has so far. With that said, I still think the critics so far are talking out of their ass and half the reviews are contradictory of each other. Which could be indicative of a serious schizophrenic delivery in the film, but is more likely to be critics being assblasted on their personal pet peeves imo.
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>>85087283
Hopefully not. A dude that straight up says he hates everything about supermans character and then becomes involved with said movies about him deserves everything he gets. Fuck him.
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>>85087283


Getting a little dramatic there, Ayer.
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>>85087015

SJW goodwill certainly didn't pull in money. It's a flop.
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>>85087012

BEYOND salty
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>>85087293
>she tries to return to her home
>family and asian community shun her for whorish tattoo
She has a lot of suffering ahead of her. Expect hard sex scenes and nudity movies from her in the near future.
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>>85087226
He doesn't show up to threads he doesn't make
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>>85087283
>Hey M-Marvel, I hear you want to make a Thunderbolts movie. I'm available, you know.

They'd probably rather give it to Louis Lettrier.
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>>85087305
Wrong.

The fact that they were getting paid forced them to embarrass themselves in public. The chick playing Katana didn't even want to do the Tattoo stupidity.
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>>85087345
Yes, you definitely are.
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>>85087364
>The chick playing Katana didn't even want to do the Tattoo stupidity.
When did she say that?
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How come the guy who did fury could get this wrong.

If is not the director then what went wrong ?
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>>85087362
>Louis Leterrier

Will Feige sempai finally notice him?
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>>85087189
That's old news. He's a strawman. The very next panel she bumps him square on the noggin and says something like "THAT'S FOR FEMINISM!" (paraphrasing, but literally).
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>>85087398

No you
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Now say it with me

FUCK
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>>85087065
>that time she had some of the most fun filming for a shoot she's ever had and made a bunch of friends

probably on the verge of some kind of suicide
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>>85087359
This. Plus he lives on /v/ now I think.
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>>85087189
Someone post the rest for this poor anon
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>>85087434
WARNER BROTHERS
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>>85087283

Getting a little dramatic there, Ayer.
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>>85087434
literally who?
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>>85087402
I won't look for the link to please an autist on the internet. But "Margot Robbie had to convince her" because she didn't want the Tattoo.
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>>85087364

except you can't force an actor to get a tattoo for publicity you retard, specially not A-listers like Will Smith, Jared Leto and Margot Robbie.
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>>85087450
WB needs to just fund and shut up
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>>85087146
>outlines a potential issue readers might have
>thinks simply mentioning the issue is enough to assuage any concerns
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>>85087434
>>85087450

I guess I'll wait for the directors cut like with BvS.
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>>85087450
>>85087434
>BvS and by proxy Zack the Man single handedly destroyed TWO movies, embarrassed their main IP and possibly killed the entire DCEU
JUST
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>>85087425
That's for using feminism as a four letter word you creep
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>>85087422
Man I feel bad for the dude.
He made some really nice action movies before going to Hollywood and the Incredible Hulk was still decent despite all the drama involved.

And now he's forced to do shitty Sacha Baron Cohen comedies.
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SAVE US, PATTY JENKINS!
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>tfw dc fan
>tfw we're the laughing stock
plz no bully
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>>85087467
I never said the A-Listers were forced, especially Leto, oh god Leto. I wonder what will he think about all this mess one year from now.
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So it's not good. But is it FUN?
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SHUT IT DOWN
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>>85086811
No seriously why does RT show their main scoring to be fresh review averages instead of actual score averages?

I mean if it said 54% for the 5.4/10 I'd say "sounds reasonable but I'm still optimistic"
But instead is shows a 39% which makes it seem much worse than it really probably is.

Why even set up a 1-10 score system if you just want to show a score of mob mentality that would work just as easily reviewers were only able to score LOVE IT or HATE IT and you showed us what % hit LOVE.
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>>85087528
Fuck you nigger. I'm trying to not fap and you're triggering my bondage fetish.
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WHEN WILL DISNEY STOP PAYING THEIR REVIEWERS FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>85087071
Which I say is a good thing in my book.
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>>85087554
Does it matter? Only literal brain dead people would take the percentage as absolute.

>/co/
Oh.
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>>85087554
because the RT score isn't about whether or not the movie is good, it's about how likely you are to enjoy it as a member of the general populace
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>>85086811
Shit, that black guy's friend was right.
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Well /co/ is the DCEU fucked or what?
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>>85086811
>I was wishing for something like DCAU when that ended
>marvel starts the MCU
>wish for DC to do something like that even though I don't really care about movies and live action stuff that much
>WB finally does it after a gajillion years
>WB fucks it up real bad
>mfw

DC doesn't deserve WB shitting all over them
People are finally liking their comics after five years of pissing and moaning.
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>>85087567
I know Jason Statham is far to sexual in that pic.
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>>85087601
>he says while Marvel still maintains majority market share
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>>85087611
If WW is a flop then DCEU is completely fucked
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>>85087583
Apple's a qt.
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>>85087601
We're talking about movies here.
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>>85087601
Being a better comic company than current Marvel is literally more worthless than getting handed a participation award.

And even then Marvel still stumps in sales.
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do you feel bad for qt asian katana?
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>>85087611
>MOS
>BVS
>SS
>all considered bad
>Snyder is hated by critics

JL is going to flop critically so it'll probably not do as well as WB will want

DCEU basically needs Wonder Woman to do very, very well for it to be saved
But Gal doesn't inspire any confidence in me and you KNOW the movie is going to be fucked with now like SS flopped
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>>85087654
>If WW is a flop
how deluded are some people to think that even after the flop of a movie containing the universes two biggest stars and the flop of a movie that is supposed to be the "fun summer blockbuster" that the universe is STILL salvagable
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>>85087571

>Every time
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>>85087450
>will smith ruins another film he's in

SURPRISE SURPRISE
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>>85087634
I'm taking a break from shitposting, let me be sincere for a tiny bit.

How could a movie with dat Bohemian Rhapsody trailer be
>ugly
>boring
>dull chore
>forgettable

It's not that I don't believe the reviewer, I'm sure he's right, I'm appalled that they made it suck this bad.

Alright, back to shitposting.
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>>85087634
I can't believe it's ugly from what we've seen so far.

>sexism
>racism
>hideously timed gun worship

oh
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>>85086811
I just can't wait for the constant contrarian threads like we've been getting with BvS, as if that wasn't enough!

I wonder how many subtle religious and mythological references will appear in the movie too so we can emphasize them too.
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Will he save the movies like he saved comics?
DCEU:Rebirth when?
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>all that method acting for a complete flop

Is Leto the next Nicholas Cage in the making?
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>>85087675
Yes.

Completely, she didn't deserve this. Her next big project will be a SS porn parody at best.
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>>85087634
>muh sexism
>muh racism
>muh overly masculine movie
sounds like this is a movie just for me
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>>85087248
>>85086849

http://www.skwad.org/

>SKWAD’S (Special Kids With A Disability) objective is to provide financial assistance and support to young people with physical or intellectual disabilities. Thus enabling them to gain the life skills necessary to participate and play a valuable role in the community and ultimately improving their quality of life.

WHEEEEEEEEW! YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!
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>>85087634
I'm all for basking in bad reviews when a movie comes out for shits and giggles, but the second a comic critic throws stuff like sexism or racism in, the review kinda loses all value.
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>>85087675
Feel awful for the poor girl. Bullied into tattoos and now her big movie chance is a failure. Worse yet the tattoo brands her now as unhirable.
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>>85087631
>>85087639
>>85087670
>>85087674
>money is more important than reputation

Spoken like true goys.
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I really wanted this film to be great and loved, it was practically DC's last hope.

But this is it isn't it? the DCEU reputation is utterly irreparable.

it's over.
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>>85087751
>DC/WB has neither

lel
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>>85087751
It's too bad that Marvel also has a better reputation to everyone outside of the autists on /co/ xDDD
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>>85087728
Well he's gonna be in a Ben Affleck written and directed Batman film so it could be worth it yet.
Hopefully Affleck remembers he's a clown. By that point in the DCEU tone shouldn't be so heavily tied to Snyder's vision.
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>>85087675
She made more money with that role than I do a year. The tattoo is the least she can keep.
That being said I doubt the movie is as shit as people make it out to be.
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>>85087751
>DC
>reputation
evanslaughing.png
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On one hand, i'm still glad that DCEU defenders are getting btfo after all the shitposting that was brought onto /co/ but on the other hand I actually was excited for this movie so this sucks
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>>85087751
>reputation
You mean like critic review scores? kek You fail even when you move goalposts.
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>>85087634
>fetishized violence
>flaccid machismo
>appalling sexism
>soupcon of racism
>gun worship
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>>85087533
this, desu. It just makes you feel self conscious when you're a DC Fan. Like you know, that one day someone is gonna bring up these movies when they talk to you and you'll have to explain how the two things are separate.
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>>85087757
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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If this movie is for sexist racist gun fanatics like me, then I don't see the problem
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>>85087675
I wonder what it's like not having upper eyelids.
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>>85086957
KEK.

The best thing to come from the DCEU is all the Evans posting
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>>85087695
For many people, WW was the highlight of BvS.

If people were going to completely dismiss WW after watching BvS, why was the general reaction to the WW trailer so positive? If people wanted nothing more to do with DC after BvS, then explain why people were considering watching her movie?

It's still salvagable.
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>>85087797
actually, reputation is comic fans. normalfags never mattered.
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>>85087766
>Disney net worth
$5 billion
>Time Warner (WB) net worth
$45 billion

>>85087769
Clickbait sites are not 'everyone' and are arguably more autistic than chinese cartoon imageboard
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>>85087787
The comics have a better one than Marvels right now
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>>85087675
Post more Karen/Katana
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>>85087634

THIS IS THE MARVEL AUDIENCE
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>>85087842
>comic fans
>mattering
You're just embarrassing yourself now. Please stop posting and hurting /co/'s reputation.
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>>85087797
>You fail even when you move goalposts.

You fail at even knowing what that means, mousecuck.
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>>85086906
Aquaman will save the DCEU
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So, is the DCEU canceled then? Bets on WB hammering down on current projects/scrapping tons of them?

It looks like Wonder Woman and the solo Batman film are all we have to look forward to now, this is terrible.
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>>85087306
and GL and TDKR 0/5
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>>85087855
>money is more important than reputation
xDDD
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>>85087533
>tfw dc fan
>tfw you loved everything so far

the ship is going down for sure and yet I'm really enjoying the ride.
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>>85087203
>>85087238
Motherfucking these.

Holy shit. Fuck this Earth.
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Let's be honest, we're all here for the hunk Jai Courtney. If there's nude, we're gonna like it.
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>post yfw when the DCEU is straight up dropped
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>>85086957
>>85087146
>>85087159
>>85087224
>>85087533
>>85087751
>>85087766
>>85087769
>>85087787
Company Wars fags are the biggest cancer in the industry. Anyone who doesn't want quality comic books or related media for any company, unless you actually work for one, is a moron. You're consumers. Fucking retards.
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>>85087915
Should have used a Michael Bay image.
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>>85087881
>wanting /co/ to be normalfag-central rather than being for comic fans
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>>85087855
>Disney net worth
>$5 billion

Where did you pull that number from? Because according to wikipedia, just their net INCOME was three times as much in 2015.
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>>85086811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YjGrZYRAtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YjGrZYRAtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YjGrZYRAtc
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>>85087634

>A movie called "suicide squad" engages in "gun worship"

I wonder how this """"""""critic"""""""" would react to a Rambo movie from the 80s.
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>>85087611
Yep.

>MOS
Divisive at best
>BvS
Considered bad, didn't do as well as WB wanted
>SS
Considered bad by critics so far, will have to see how well it does in money and audience
>WW
We'll have to see
>JL
Snyder is hated by critics so even if it's just "okay" (i.e. like most marvel films) it'll still be lambasted something fierce, and if SDCC means anything, normal people don't like Snyder either and blame him for everything bad.

Five movies in, and only one has a chance at being liked.
And even if the WW has an good plot, good action, good villains, and good supporting cast, if your main character doesn't have a good actor then it's pretty fucked.
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I enjoyed BvS, Man of Steel was okay and I'm looking forward to seeing Suicide Squid. Just looking forward to the depictions of Captain Boomerang, Katana and Joker, Deadshot seems kind of neutered.

More critical failures aren't what they need though.
There are already issues with tone amidst the DCEU and rewrites and appeals to whatever the critics perceive as issues are likely to do nothing but harm the franchise.
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>>85087601
Marvel has some good books, but CW2 is trash. I hope they compare this to Pleasent hill and realize that big events aren't all that anymore and go for smaller crossovers. good luck though
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>>85087350
This, they ostracized Rinko Kukuchi and she didn't even get a whore tattoo.
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>>85087533
This. The WORST thing about this shit is that they make DC and DC characters look fucking terrible. You won't be able to admit that you're a DC fan, even more so than before.
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>>85086943
Suicide Squad cast on suicide watch
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>>85087757
If Wonder Woman and Justice League somehow wind up being good then the DCEU might have a chance.If they are bad use the Flash movie to reboot everything.
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>>85087738
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>>85087350
She was born in America..
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>>85087751
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>it´s 34% right now
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>>85087881
>hurting /co/'s reputation.
>/co/'s reputation.
Are you fucking serious right now?
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>>85087949
/co/ is for cartoons. I'm glad /tv/ is driving out you neckbeards.
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>>85087940
This.

Almost everything Marvel and DC is shit.

There's a handful of good stuff.

Neither company has a good track record.
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Would you a Karen?
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>>85087949
How does someone this cute end up like this?
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>>85087634
Yeah this review looks terrible.
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>>85086961
She is, but there's so much porn of this film that watching the actual movie seems like a waste of time.
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>>85087459
So you're full of shit. Got it
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>>85087533
>DC finally fixes their comics just in time for WB to fucking ruin the viewers' perception of the characters

I want to die
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Wasn't this supposed to have a credits teaser? What is it?
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>>85087940
>You're consumers.

I don't really pay for anything so...
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>>85087982
Truly a fate worse than death.
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>>85087919
I wish I have your mindset brah
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>>85087675
Don't worry, I'll punch Harley for you
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>>85088025
Bruce getting government dossiers on the JL from Waller
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Who's gonna see this with their free t mobile ticket
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i really wanted this movie to be good
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>>85087855
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>>85087990
Not after she got hepatitis from a SKWAD tattoo.
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>>85087990
Yep, post more.
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>>85087989
It's like people want the industry as a whole to become shittier and don't realize you can enjoy comics from many companies.

>DCuck
>Marvelfag

Fucking dumbasses.
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>>85088027
You don't have to buy a chocolate bar to consume it
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>>85087726
kinda late, they went with Barry as a loser nerd. Unless Geoff Johns can come in and quickly fix things, which is unlikely.
>>85087728
I don't know, how many times has he sold his comic book collection?
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>>85087293
>>85087350

You need to quit watching too much anime you neckbeards
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post more Karen, she didn't deserve this
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>>85087987
>/co/
>/CO/mics
>not for comics
You can shitpostbait all you want, but try putting effort
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I really can't say I'm surprised at this point.
>>
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>>85087961
TOP FUCKING KEK
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This is what happens when you let Snyder's untalented ass helm an entire movie universe
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>(The now infamous reshoots are an obvious issue. Suicide Squad was kind of caught in the middle of the old “no fun” DC and the new “we are now fun” DC. This was a movie filmed under the guise of “no fun,” with reshoots that added “fun.” What we get out of this is kind of what anyone would expect: A movie with a tone that’s kind of all over the place. Oh, and don’t even get me started on the pop music. There’s a way to do it, like Guardians of the Galaxy — and there’s a way to make your movie sound like some sort of old compilation rock CD they used to sell on late night infomercials.)

http://uproxx.com/movies/suicide-squad-review/2/
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>>85087738
holy shit....
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>>85088067
My point is I don't pay for anything and yet I feel entitled to shitpost for either side when it suits me.

And there's a bunch like me in /co/.
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>>85087533
Just be happy the comics are good and look forward to JLAction, that's what I do.
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>>85086811
>Awful acting in the trailers and clips
>Shoving in Joker and Harley
>Turning Deadshot into Will Smith in a Deadshot costume
>All of that cringe fest "we're the badguys" dialogue

Why is everyone so shocked, and either way why does it matter what RT says? Ghostbusters 2016 is fresh according to them.
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>>85088099
>cute feet
Truly, she did not.
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>>85087293
You're exaggerating a bit there.

Even if the movie was a huge success it isn't going to turn her into a international star overnight. The nigga who played Draco in all 20 hugely successful Harry Potter movies is now doing CW shows.
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>>85088138
>Oh, and don’t even get me started on the pop music.

Oh, fuck, what about this? I've not been paying attention, is the OSR cringeworthy?
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>>85088138
Fair enough regarding the pop music. Dunno what the fuck they were thinking using shit like 21 Stone Pilots and ya boy Skrillex.
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You can never trust "professional" reviewers nowadays. They either want every movie to be an artsy farty indie movie or the next Godfather. Go form your own opinions! Trust me, don't bother with those paid-off numbers on marvelfans or rotten tomatoes.

If you want to be a fan, a true fan, then do yourself a favor and see it for yourself. Bring your girlfriend or get a friend on a friday night, order your tickets, and you will have a good time I assure you. For the full experience, don't forget to watch in IMAX for just an extra 5 bucks and get yourself a nice cold Coca-Cola Zero™ to sip on!
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But yeah, it's obvious this one is drenched in Snyder sweat and it was too late for a bath.

How involved in WW was he again?
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>>85088091
>they went with Barry as a loser nerd.

but wally isn't a loser nerd. he's the charmer.
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So from what I gather I have to pretty much disavow any positive comments when it comes to DC movies
Its always BS to quell the negativity to come
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>>85087940
most of those you replied to just want anything good by DC. Pretty sure all of /co/ would be happy if both companies had good movies. But if they won't give us good movies, might as well enjoy some shitposting
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>WB poisoned the DC brand just as DC gets their shit together with Rebirth

being dc and a dc fan is suffering
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>>85088138
>the film was originally shot under no fun
what the fuck???????
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>>85087963
I wonder how it'll turn out if the audience actually DOES like it despite what critics say. Slim chance I know, but the buzz was positive
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>Now at 34%
It keeps tumbling down. Motherfucker.
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>>85088204
They use Spirit in the Sky.

Yup.

If that doesn't scream "This is like Guardians!", I dunno what does.
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Can someone storytime Ostrander SS to get the bad taste out of my mouth?
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>>85088053
Time Warner BTFO yet again. Is there no end to their suffering?
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>>85087212
If MOS under-performed, why would WB make Zack the architect of their shared universe?
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>>85088251
Ohhhhhh Jesus.

You have to be trolling me, please provide sauce.
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>>85087316
>Ghostbusters
>fun
>comedy
That movie was an insult to those concepts.
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Is this karma for what happened last night?
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>>85088258
Because it didnt make a billion duh
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>>85088210
Snyder co wrote it

So basically the first five films of the DCEU are going to be divisive or fucking awful.
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>>85088171
Oh. Yeah I think everyone's noticed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YjGrZYRAtc
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>>85088266

The IGN review. But it's "brief and only in one scene".

>>85088280

Great. Now we just gotta see if the franchise can last that long.
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>>85086961
No I don't, because she isn't.
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>>85088208
>Trust me, don't bother with those paid-off numbers on marvelfans

I think I read one review for BvS where a critic said it sucked cause it wasn't like the avengers, verbatim.

I didn't like BvS all that much, but if these are the kinds of people driving down rotten tomato scores then what's the point?
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>>85088258
>Why did a stupid company keep doing stupid shit?
This is what you sound like.
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>>85088258
MOS didn't underperform financially which is all WB cared about.

BvS underperforming financially is what made them have Johns take a bigger role, what made them fuck with SS, and is why Affleck will have a bigger role in shit.
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>>85087961
TOP FUCKING TOP KEK, the way that fucking ended was awesome
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>>85087855
>Disney net worth
>$5 billion
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>>85088326
>being this assblasted that your superhero film is negatively compared to the Citizen Kane of superhero films
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Wait, here it is.

>As if to hammer home that Squad is also supposed to be a quirky good time, Norman Greenbaum’s “Spirit in the Sky” is also used, although in less compelling fashion than in Guardians. In fact, all the songs in Squad are hit or miss, with only a few fitting in well.
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>>85086930

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>85088176
This is what baffles me the most. The new Ghostbusters is just a slap in the face of the franchise. I'm glad Ramis didn't have to see this.
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>>85088138
and it looks like the fun fags fucked up suicide squad as well
thanks faracci
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fuck, I really wanted this movie to be good
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>>85087168
Die you degenerate Barneyfag
https://derpibooru.org/339590
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>>85088280
Snyder CO wrote the treatment, but yeah. After the motherfucking Justice League his handprints would get washed away. Aquaman and Flash are pretty much starting from scratch, don't know what hope I have for Batman. Fuck man, at least Rebirth is good.
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Friendly reminder.
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>the shitposting will never stop
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>>85088363
>As if to hammer home that Squad is also supposed to be a quirky good time, Norman Greenbaum’s “Spirit in the Sky” is also used, although in less compelling fashion than in Guardians. In fact, all the songs in Squad are hit or miss, with only a few fitting in well.

Fucking hell, do these people have no shame?
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>>85088375
It might be
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>>85087631
Actually Marvel is losing market share, Rebirth was a huge bump for DC that got 8 out of the top 10 selling comics from DC, including Scooby-Doo adventures and Quest. Rebirth has also increased a lot of the hardcover market sells.
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>>85088051
With that Harley and Joker?

Nah.
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>>85088396

Wow, was he high when he posted that?

And I don't even mean DC. I meant TMNT.
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>>85086930
Wonder Woman has a main actress with 0 charisma and very little acting skills.

And Snyder is co writing the movie.

The lifeline will be people creaming their pants over a superheroine with a movie and people being too afraid to give it a low/rotten score in fear of seeming misogynistic.

With all this, I can't see WW being above 70% either.
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>>85088053
holy shit, those few employees for that amount of billions
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>>85088355

>your superhero
>your

Sorry pal, my IQ is too high to engage in console wars. Find another recipient.
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>>85088443
Fuck, WW is gonna be another Ghostbusters, isn't it?
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>>85088434
Marvel nower and all their events will bump them back up as all the Rebirth books settle down.
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>>85088407
>will smith as will smith
>Batman shoehorned in
>movie is a pure joker and harley flick with guest appearance and 10 lines of dialogue shared between everyone else in the squad.

It never had a chance of being good.
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>>85088488
A lot of Joker's scenes were taken out, it's one thing people are complaining about.
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>>85088199
CUUUTE
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DC's just blowing everything up and it sucks since for the first time in 5 years, DC Rebirth is actually done something right and I feel the negative stigma of these outside failures is gonna affect the comic front which is actually good.

Best case scenario for WB right now is to scrap everything after the Flash (or heck just scrap everything starting from the Flash) and do a clean slate Crisis Movie that could reboot the universe ala X-Men Days of Future Past. This franchise is just tainted now, they've done dark and brooding, they've done serious, now they've done quippy, wacky, and high energy. Nothing just works and this will give internal turmoil to WB.

DC will need to fucking reboot to recover from this, and even that won't save it since it'll just push the meme of DC doing constant reboots. Fuck it, fucking fucking fuck it.

>inb4 TV will save it
god no, listen to yourself. Supergirl looks like shit, Arrow is just the Felicity and Friends Show, The Flash? Ok it's not terrible but if that's the bar we're setting it's not pretty high, Legends of Tomorrow is not as bad as Arrow but you know it's just Power Rangers with more drama.

>Inb4 Animated Movies will save it
Dude, fucking Killing Joke got terrible reviews. THE Killing Joke. We got those fucking god awful New 52 inspired animated movies as the main output while actual good stuff like the Gods and Monsters Universe get shelved.

>Inb4 Animated Shows
what Teen Titans Go? Justice League Action has a chance though but with the 11 minute format, it's not gonna satisfy a lot of people

>>85088473
get ok reviews that push it to fresh from websites trying to be PC? I wish anon :(

>>85088488
if one thing there was too little joker from what I heard
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>>85088396
I feel bad for 1.jpg

He's probably hanging from the ceiling in his basement
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>>85088363
James Gunn was right.
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>>85087359
>>85087226
>>85087440
He has an RSS feed that he monitors for mentions of his name.
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I never believed in the paid shill conspiracy but going through the reviews I kinda feel like sjw critics just want their safe space progressive movies.
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>>85088482
Their current and next event are shaping up to be turd and people are getting tired of all the renumbering and pandering to the SJWs
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>>85088488
Will Smith is basically the only thing there worth being concerned about, considering Joker isn't nearly as prevalent as everyone's led to believe, and that it's not necessarily shoehorning to use Batman when Joker and Harley are around anyway.
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>2016
>Watching capeshit
>Not caring about the superior genre
Faggots.
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>>85088443
>And Snyder is co writing the movie.


But that's completly false, Snyder worked on the story, Geoff "i never touched a WW comic before 2014" Johns is co-writing the movie.
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Superhero movies need to die. Fad been going on for too long. DC ain't picking up momentum and Marvel has been shitting kiddy trash movies for a while now. Seriously, what kind of grown ass man gets excited about obvious cashgrabs aimed for 9 year olds? This is great news, hopefully Marvel tags along on the way down the furnace.
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>>85088613

Hard to take a review seriously when it complains about gun violence in a movie called "suicide squad"
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>>85088622
Oops. Pic related.
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>>85088540
What did he say
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>>85088633
>hopefully Marvel tags along on the way down the furnace

Pretending to be dumb or nah?
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>>85088613

And TV shows, and comics, and video games...
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>33%
>>
I just don't get it, how can DC make such mediocre live films when the animated ones are so good
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>>85088535
don't scrap it before Wan gets to do Aquaman. Him talking about deep sea lovecraftian monsters has gotten me hyped and that is something Momoa could do
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>>85088644
He saw that squad was ripping off GotG from the first trailer.
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>i-it's a love it or hate it film
>c-critics will hate it but audiences will love it i swear!!
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>>85088576
Dude, I'm right here waiting on this degenerate to get deleted

>>85087168
https://derpibooru.org/339590
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>>85088535
>tfw I agree with all this

Still can't believe how badly WB fucked the DCEU up.
Three movies are confirmed bad among critics and two are considered bad among fans, and the next two are shaping up to be the same.

Why Snyder is still allowed any part of this after MOS and BvS I will never know. If he's not gone after JL then WB deserves it.
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>>85088684
>when the animated ones are so good
When was their last good one?
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>>85088678
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>>85088258
Because his wife is the producer.
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>>85088684
Because reviewers don't shout at you that the animated ones are shit
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>>85088635
That's true. What did they expect? Emo teens being rescued from killing themselves?
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>>85088684
But they aren't anymore. Last great animated movie was TDKR part 2, good one was Gods and Monster. And that's about it.
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>>85088684
>when the animated ones are so good
Anon DC hasn't had a good animated movie since before Justice League War. And that movie came out in 2014.

Gods and Monsters is probably the best one lately and even that's just okay.
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>>85088703
>5.2
>33%

REEEE
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Welll look here it seem like FOX is now the second best at doing cape movie. let see the reviews for this year movie so far.

FOX
Deadpool is good
X-men apocalypse is bad

Marvel
Civil War is good
We are still waiting for Dr Strange

DC
Batman vs Superman is bad
Now Suicide Squad is bad.

Maybe FOX can use the hole that DC movie will leave to make more mutants movies.
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>>85088699
I wish, I love most of Wan's film despite them having terrible reviews. Then again I have a gore fetish.

>>85088709
>He thinks it's just Snyder
Snyder had jackshit to do with SS m8 and look at what happened
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>>85088684
their last truly good one was Gods and Monsters and they scrapped future developments. Killing Joke was a mess, future New 52 Inspired Movies will be a mess too.
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Can't wait for more

>Disney conspiracy!
>Rotten Tomatoes critics are shit!
>Who cares about critics? They're all snobs!
>Fuck the haters!
>You just don't get it!
>You just want Marvel shit!

Etc. Etc.
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>>85088535
>god no, listen to yourself. Supergirl looks like shit, Arrow is just the Felicity and Friends Show, The Flash? Ok it's not terrible but if that's the bar we're setting it's not pretty high, Legends of Tomorrow is not as bad as Arrow but you know it's just Power Rangers with more drama.
Nigga wot? Flash, Legends and even Supergirl have all been solid, if mediocre at times, and the upcoming seasons are all hype af. Even Arrow is far more salvageable than the DCEU at this point, it did have a great season 1 and 2, and seasons 3 and 4 weren't ALL bad.
Tbh I just hope the current DCEU gets scrapped and the next film will just use Supergirl's Supes.
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>>85088701
The firs trailer that was nothing like the rest of the trailer or GOTG?

Are movies that use a ragteam of losers that end up being heroes need to start paying copyright money to Disney for inventing the concept?
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>>85088699
>>85088760
I'm a horror movie fan and big gorehound, and think the guy is a hack. We'll see what he does with aquaman, but his only decent movie was saw 1. Everything else follows the same generic cliche set up where you know whats going to happen 3 minutes into the flick.
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T-This can't be true, right?
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I don't care about reviewers. I just hope it's a fan two hours for a semi-casual comic fan.

Though Will Smith doesn't make me hopeful. At all.
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>>85088251
DC movies will never be good because DC will always try to copy Marvel's success strategy.
Snyder's vision of the DC cinematic universe was a complete failure so now they are just gonna try to make the film equivalent of a cheap knockoff.
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>>85088757
Fox really needs to complete that next X-Men movie.

Then maybe they finally swallow their pride and work out a alliance with Marvel Studios to share the rights of X-Men and Fantastic Four like what Sony are doing with Spidey.
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>>85088817
Close up of script
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>>85088796
More than half of it is right though.
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>>85088714
Gods and Monsters
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>>85088760
It's not just Snyder but Snyder has been apart of 2/3 bad films, and he has a part with Wonder Woman and Justice League.
If those two aren't good and he doesn't get boot, then WB deserves all the shit that gets thrown at them.
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>>85088837
Please, point out which ones are legit.
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>>85088757
If FOX branches out from X-Men and Wolverine (like they did with Deadpool) into solo movies with other characters, they can do pretty good.
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>>85088831
I don't really want X-men in the MCU, but I wouldn't mind if Marvel was involved more in the production of the movies.
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DC might fuck up a lot but it will never fuck up as hard as this
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>>85088831
I could see them sharing the F4 but the x-men ?
They are too big for that to happen.
>>
Looking through twitter, I at least see majority of people disregarding reviews, and I think it's a good sign. Critics record has been terrible this year. Doubt SS will be that great, but still hope it will do well.
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>>85088837
Yeah its just a conspiracy against DC right? Thats why the Nolan Batman films did so badly.
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>>85088796
why not make a bingo then?
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>>85088841
Is ok. Not good.
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>>85086811
Nope. I figured it was going to be shit (Harley in hot pants) and it was
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>>85088876
WOW that made my brain hurt.
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>>85088876
Except they have, like Batwoman saying that she's the new Batman.
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>>85088876
I love this is actually wrong in many levels...
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>>85086811
Hope for what? I don't work for WB, I don't care if they make or lose money on this movie.

If I see the movie and like it, maybe I'll have hope for a sequel. Until then I don't really see the point of worrying.
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>>85088801
>Supergirl
>Solid
nigga get that dick out your ass. It has ok episodes at times but mostly it's pretty middling.

>Legends
it was so mediocre that it lost its discussion threads for a while. Literally nobody was talking about it.

>Tbh I just hope the current DCEU gets scrapped and the next film will just use Supergirl's Supes.
God no, he needs to buff up mang or wear a better costumes that emphasizes his buid
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>>85088876
>fucking up an entire Cinematic Universe isn't as bad as fucking up speech bubbles
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So will there be a heroclix line for this movie?
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>>85088860
They don't even need to branch out, they just need to stop making their entire film focus on Wolverine, Xavier, Magneto, and now Mystique. Like, they have so many characters in their films, but I don't care about any of them because they don't have any depth to them.
Colossus and Negasonic probably have more lines of dialogue than most of the X-kids from the Singer trilogy.
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Ayer's response

https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/760563205068431360
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>>85088876
>tfw I can't tell if you're serious or not

i hate /co/
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>>85088876
This is a joke. Seriously, Marvel writers and editorial are so bad right now.
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Seriously, when is WB going to shut down Rotten Tomatos? It's doing them more harm than good.
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>>85088924
Even Arrow is far more salvageable than the DCEU at this point, it did have a great season 1 and 2, and seasons 3 and 4 weren't ALL bad.
Is enough to just ignore him.
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>>85087283
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>>85088801
>Legends and even Supergirl have all been solid

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESHHHHHHH

Imagine have tastes this bad.
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I need a doujin of Karen Fukuhara being forced into tattoing by Margot Robbie that ends with both gangbanged by the rest of the Skwad, Leto and Batfleck.
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>>85088937
>deep and intellectual movies

Hahahaha, please tell me this guy is a parody of your average DCCU fan
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>>85086811
>predicted the lowest to be 40%
>off by one number
JUST
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>>85088937
Boy it's gonna be awkward when the audience score slides down and down and down...
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>>85088937
>They are making deep and intellectual movies

If your saying deep and intellectual you are meant to say "pretentious" and "try-hard"
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>>85088937
>muh art
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>>85088907
That actually almost works, because that was the first time Kate meets Damian and Dick as Batman.
And for all purposes she was the new Batman...
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>>85086811
it got Ostrander's run printed so there's a silver lining I guess
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>>85088932
oh damn that reminds me. I've been thinking of starting that game since there's a playgroup in my LGS.
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>>85088701
Kurosawa confirmed trend following HACK
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>>85088937
>"They are making deep and intelectual films"

...
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>>85088965
Oh it's gonna get lower than that, anon.
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Ok I can be fucked reading 2 threads of shitposting and reviews

Can someone explain why it's bad. Was it studio meddling again?
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>>85087421
WARNER.

Hey, that guy Snyder who is shit at story? Give him complete control of our best characters.

Ayer? Nah, don't let him do that movie unless it copies Marvel and tries to be fun or whatever.
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>>85088801
>Legends and even Supergirl have all been solid
holy shit no. And I really wanted to love both of them. They had 2 or 3 good episodes each. For Legends it was the Jonah Hex episode and maybe the 60 pot smoking prof one. For Supergirl it was only good when they did MM stuff and the White Martian episode was GOAT
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33% now boys
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>>85088980
No, it doesn't.
Neither does Dick saying WHAT WHERE AM I AND WHO ARE YOU when he was the one who knew what was going on.
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>>85087977
>You won't be able to admit that you're a DC fan, even more so than before.
Why? I like the Marvel movies better (so far); still prefer the DC Animated (mostly, Killing Joke was shit); and my pull list has more than twice as many DC as Marvel titles (literally the opposite of 2 years ago) because Rebirth actually *WAS* and Marble Now-er really really isn't (seriously: Inhumans vs X-Men can die in a fucking fire ... OF AIDS!)
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>>85088796
>Disney conspiracy
Eh, kinda. I mean, it's not absolute, but Disney is really big, I can't believe they don't have any shills at all.

>Rotten Tomatoes critics are shit!
Ya, true.

>Who cares about critics? They're all snobs!
A great number of comic critics are pseudointellectual hipsters or sjws or both, so yeah, that's true.

>Fuck the haters!
Nah, lots of people hate DC movies for legitimate reasons

>You just don't get it!
Fuck off Zack, that one's ridiculously

>You just want Marvel shit!
That's not responsible for all the negativity, but for the "wholesome family fun with little kids", I admit Marvel is more on point than DC.
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>>85088540
>>85088644
He also cut the song from the movie. Only featured in the trailer.

>>85088701
He said that they seemingly tried copying what original things Guardians did instead of making something original to capture the same feel and quality.
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>>85088977
Ehhh, after years of Marvelshit you only need one movie that doesn't try to talk to the audience like retards.
In my pov thats Snyder's biggest issue, he thinks the audience is not a bunch of braindead morons.
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>>85088937

Deep and...really?
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>>85086811
>yfw this tanks hard
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>>85088961
Legends was still in its experimental stage this year, but the last few episodes really picked it up, and the upcoming JSA/Legion of Doom plotline looks hype af. Even the early episodes weren't outright bad so much as average/mediocre. Ofc compared to shit like bvs the last season of Legends was an outright masterpiece.
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>>85086811
>using RT

They also think Sharknado is a good movie but hated Armageddon for some reason.
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>>85089030
I wasn't talking about the editorial error, i was talking about the context.
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>>85089014
Will it get A SOLID 40
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>>85086906
Wondy maybe, if they can get the vapid ill informed rabid 3rd wave feminist crowd up in arms like Ghostbusters tried.
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>>85089003
>Was it studio meddling again?
partially yes

>joker wasn't in it enough
>some muh ledger
>tone was all over the place
>pacing was bad
>a lot of characters don't get development
>racism, sexism, etc
>apparently Deadshot and Waller were the best characters in it while everybody else was just eh
>the villain is very generic and not very well thought out

then you get those reviews that were like "too many quips, trying to be like avengers waaah"
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>>85089038
I know but it just makes you feel more self conscious since you know that someone out there is gonna remind you the movies have all been pretty weak or ask why aren't you liking Marvel more
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>>85089089
I am sure I will be getting a solid 7 at the end of my post.
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Load up your Laughing Evans.
This time, it's official
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>>85089076
is this real
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>>85087833
>For many people, WW was the highlight of BvS
Because it was a flashy action scene? For the same reason, people wants a black widow movie since the first avengers, even thugh she had little to no relevance to the plot in iron man 2 or avengers
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>>85089038
If Inhumans vs X-Men ending turns out like the ending to Gundam SEED Destiny in the Inhumans favour. Then Marvel Entertainment is dead to me, Marvel Studios is cool because of Fiege actually respecting the characters most of the time, but Perlmutter and his band of toadies could just fuck right off.
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>>85088983
>Batman Begins a huge hit
>Ra's is the main villain
>no reprint of Tales of the Demon

I just want some quality Bronze Age
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>>85089049
Congrats, you're who I was making fun of when I posted that.
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>>85089108
>pacing was bad
How can they edit their trailers beautifully but fuck up the real thing?
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>>85089096
If they didn't go see that diverse cast, I can't see them going out for Gal "Gaza must burn" Gadot.
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>>85089076
>they think
do you have any idea how the site even works?
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Hey guys, did you hear about the time Bane shitposted on /tv/?

His post was edited with a (USER WAS BANED FOR THIS POST)
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>>85088796
>local companies buy yelp reviews on craigslist, but Disney doesn't buy reviews?
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>>85089108
>>racism, sexism, etc
the core character roster ranges from pieces of shit to mass murderers though so that doesnt seem fair
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>>85089130
Because everybody else but Affleck was so bad.

Cavill didn't get enough scenes to shine, neither to Adams, and Lex is considered the worst character.
That basically leaves Affleck and Gal. And Gal got so few scenes and spoke so little she technically wasn't bad. Just kinda there.
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>>85089108
I feel sorry for Will Smith and Viola Davis, the two people who actually try in this movie and they get jack shit.

Didn't Viola get sick of Jared's INSANE DEEP DARK Joker method acting?
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>>85089131
You know damm well marvel is not going to let the inhumans wins, that will be the worst kind of blow to x-men fans and i am sure a lot of people will stop reading x-men if the inhumans wins.

Marvel will relaunch the x-men line with at least 4 new books and one of the will be a inhumans woking with x-men book.
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>yfw DC fans think that there's still a chance for their DCEU
Has there ever been so much money loss on so many shit movies?
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>>85089074
>Ofc compared to shit like bvs the last season of Legends was an outright masterpiece.
true, but it still dropped the ball hard. It should have been much better than it was, it had all the right cards dealt to it but it dropped the ball on making Savage a good villain. Most of the best episodes were the period pieces where they didn't worry about Savage as much as fixing their mistakes or just interacting with the time. Jonah Hex was awesome, and they should have just done more time jumping Sliders like episodes
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>>85089108
The villain complaint is bust since Marvel needs to pull off interesting bad guys more too. So far they got Loki and Zemo.
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>>85089150
No. Many DC fans have no understanding of RT but shit on it because it gives their movies bad scores.

They seem to think RT has its own critics that entirely make up the score.
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>>85089171
Both Will Smith and Viola have said how much they hated Leto's method acting.
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>>85088817
>>85088836

He's talking about this.
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>>85089171
Yes, she let him know her husband was ex-NFL and would check his ass if he stepped out of line.
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>>85089120
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>>85087146
That book is selling well anon
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>>85089177
The only people who have hope for the DCEU are Snyder fans.
Most of us are going back to comics again
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>>85089157
Of course little DCfriend, it's all a conspiracy
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>>85089108
Man that sucks, especially all that stuff about tone and pacing. Ayer didn't strike me as a pretentious hack like Snyder so I genuinely thought we'd get something good.

>racism, sexism, etc

Don't see what's wrong with this. Granted I haven't seen the movie, but if characters like the Joker and Boomerang are being racist, homophobic, sexist etc, it's not really surprising. Do people really not get the idea behind bad people say bad shit?
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>>85089167
Well not just that, but also Diablo and Slipknot getting fucked over
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>>85089128
Yes.


>>85089120
Marvelfags have no right to laugh about anything when THIS scene was in your cirtically-acclaimed movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSndm7Aq7rQ

>>85089150
Yes. RT takes the reviews of jaded old people, feminists, and numales and mashes them all together into an incestuous slurry full of bad taste.

>>85089171
>>85089108
>mfw normies love Will Smith for some reason

He literally just plays himself in every movie. Guy stopped trying to act after he left Fresh Prince.
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>>85089198
Will Smith didn't even invite him to a cast party he was having at his house.
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>>85086944
>>85086969
33% on 46 reviews now

33% on Top Critics too

I guess they were some kind of suicide squad

>>85087554
...because they show that other score literally right below the RT score? Which is a score based not on the mean average of all reviews (which is also a very flawed system, since you don't know the criteria of the hundreds of individual reviews) but on what the verdict of those reviewers was, expressed as a simple +/- binary?

Meaning you count the percentage of reviews that portray any given production positively not only on their scoring but in the body of text (which has to be 300 words or more to count) as the overall "fresh" percentage, and if this score falls below 50% then the movie as a whole is "rotten".

It's spectacularly easy to understand, anon.
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>>85089171
>I feel sorry for Will Smith
>the two people who actually try in this movie
Viola I get, but will Smith literally just plays every character he always plays in action comedies. Fuck him.
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>>85086906
The Dark Knight Rises was good though.
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>>85087983
Don't put Ben there...I feel bad for him
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>>85089120
>>85089177
>>85089205
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>>85089128
it has 8 reviews from people who've actually seen it, yes
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>>85089235
>talking shit when this is the most important part of the backstory of your most important character
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It was nice seeing how this movie made Will fucking fun again, especially in interviews. I thought his wife drained all of it.
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>>85089203
>citation needed

Keep your alpha cuck fantasies off of /co/ please
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>>85089203
Good. I like to enjoy Will-Phone-it-in-and-play-myself-Smith
suffering at the workplace because of a more dedicated person.
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>>85089227
They don't know the characters
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>>85089235
>D-DC films can't possibly be bad! It's all someone else's fault!
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>>85087980
Gadot is an awful actress, everything else has to be really good in order to please critics despite the awfully casted main protagonist. The WWI scenario already feels boring. And JL would be another Zack Snyder hackfest, but now with more quips...it's gonna look like a joke.

How difficult is to make a decent movie?
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>>85089252
Can't stop it
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>>85088858
>Rotten Tomatoes critics are shit!
>Who cares about critics? They're all snobs!
>Fuck the haters
>You just want Marvel shit!
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>>85087283
My Spanish is very rudimentary. Does that mean "I'd prefer to die on my feet than live on my knees" or am I greatly misinterpreting it?
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>>85089186
Kingpin and Purpleman and Ward
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>All the DCfags getting BTFO by Marvelfags in this thread
If you really love DC then you'll go support their movie and form your own opinion instead of being a spineless faggot and caring about RT scores
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>>85087734
Sounds like every JerryBruckheimer/Michael Bay/Joel Silver movie
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>>85089227
>Do people really not get the idea behind bad people say bad shit?
No. This is actually really hard for people now. These days even if you have a movie plot about how racism is bad, you still have to have the racist bad guys refrain from racial slur usage. The practice now is to tell the audience that the villain is racist and he is bad, don't have him say offensive or racists remarks, and then have the hero defeat them and overcome the racism they had to endure.
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Who /waitingfordiretorscut/ here

Pic related isn't even in the film apparently

>>85089302
Eh, you can do better /tv/, stop rehashing old memes
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Leto as Joker is the definition of "trying too hard".
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>>85089314
You've already made yourself look like a fool with the first one, good job.
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>>85089177
They wouldn't have lost any money, but they wouldn't have made anything near what they wanted to
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>>85089302
Ke k
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>>85086811
Was there at any point so far?
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>>85089198

I'm 99% sure the Will Smith not liking Leto comes from a joke article.
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>>85089302
She freaked then
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>>85088443
At this point 70% is a good rating for the DCEU.
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>>85089302
>Mom's gonna freak

I can't stop laughing
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>>85089316
That's it
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>>85089276
It's just as bad as Cap spouting about God, language, or muh Bucky.

Movie adaptations were a mistake.

How's being a Nazi working out for you, Steve?
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>>85087729
> Her next big project will be a SS porn parody at best.

That needs to happen.
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>>85089324
>If you support DC you'll give them money for shitty movies and encourage more of the same

The only language WB understands is money. If we want good movies we can't support the terrible ones.
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Post YFW Man of Steel is the best movie in the DCCU
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>>85087757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZQ_WBiyFDk
Hold me close brother.
In a way, I'm glad Hal's not around to see this.
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>>85089341
I didn't actually mind the bullshit until I heard that the other actors asked him to stop and he just continued.
Even Tom Hardy and DiCaprio know when to stop sometimes.
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>>85087711
>How could a movie with dat Bohemian Rhapsody trailer be
>Bohemian Rhapsody
Sticking a great song on a trailer can make it look way better than it is.
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>>85089336
>44 reviews so far
yikes
just a few more and the rating will be practically set in stone
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>>85089336
the actual rating's going up
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>most of the reviews are bitching about the racism & sexism

Why do they bother?
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>>85089378
>It's just as bad as Cap spouting about God, language, or muh Bucky.
Sounds like Cap to me
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>>85088255
not really.
There only big hit in the top ten this year is BvS
Disney has 4 huge hits with 3 more to come, Fox has 2 and at least one more to try and climb up there
WB has Not Harry Potter in November and that's going up against Dr.Strange
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>>85089302
>self.moviescirclejerk
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>>85089242
Good, if you are going to method act don't take it out on your cast. The good method actors do it far away from the rest of the cast to limit the damage to ONLY THEM.
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>>85089316

That's correct.
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>>85089249
Only in comparison to the other movies listed.
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>>85088964
Oh, anon. Poor, sweet naive anon.

That guy is dead fucking serious.
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>>85089398
No, not its not, its going to stick between 30-35 and that will be it
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>>85089412
>most
It's not most, its like 2 that people are focusing on
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>>85089128
Yea rheyI had premier a few months back at some festival.
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>>85089336
Why?

BvS ultimate didn't add anything to the movie that wasn't already there, it just made some things more prominent and spoonfed you the answers to "how was Clark framed".

It's still the same shitty film, but 20% longer and more shitty.

What are you waiting for? More pissing? More Will Smith awkwardly running through his lines so he'll get his paycheck but looking like the only fucking professional actor on the planet next to these dopes?

It's dead. Let it die. Grieve and move on.
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>>85089355
>they wouldn't have made anything near what they wanted to
In Hollywood, this is career ending.
A lot of Warner Bros execs will have to stop down over the DCEU fiasco.
I'm willing to bet all the movies except for Justice League to be shit canned.
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>>85089321
>Implying the general audience of the movies cares about the TV-side
Still salty about that Inhumans movie, Perlmutter?
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Are there good suicide squad comics? Did anyone give a shit before this movie?
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>>85089435
It's like /tv/ but less funny and more smug
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>>85089374
>>85089443
Thanks.
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>>85089432
Man, WB's shitting the bed with the DCEU is even worse when you remember that it's supposed to be their BIG THING like Harry Potter
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>>85089168

this is actually my biggest complaint regarding this movie. everyones screentime is regulated to the same amount a minor character would have, so we have true "main character", which is insane for a movie with two big characters written right into the fuckin title.
oh, and lois and lex are the worst parts of that movie. lois didn't really need to be there and lex was just....terrible.
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>>85089412
>racism

No way. Do they actually have Boomer be a racist jackass?
That would make it a 10/10 movie for me.
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>>85089420

Pretty sure comics Steve doesn't give a shit about religion or swearing.
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>>85086961
Looks like the cheap sluts you find in the worst neighbourhoods around midnight who would give you a blowjob for 2$
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>>85089462

BVS UE was 8/10.
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>>85089475
Those who did must have loathed the movie from the first trailer.
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>>85089462
No anon, directors cut saved BVS! It was a hidden gem all along!
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>>85089432
Could you imagine trying to tell someone 5 years ago that Batman V Superman would do worse than a Captain America movie?
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>>85089475
>Are there good suicide squad comics?
This is the average /co/ poster.
I lose more and more respect for /co/ by the day.
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You know now that I think about it, these trailers are always misleading as he'll as how the actual movie is, so maybe Justice League will be good.
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>>85089508
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>>85088613
Yet Deadpool is praised highly by the same critics.

Like if Suicide Squad WAS a bad movie....NAH IT'S A CONSPIRACY. No other rational explanation
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>>85089475
Not really. They got popular from Arrow a few years ago and Harley Quinn comics sometimes have them as support characters but Suicide Squad have never really been much.
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At least the best member of the Suicide Squad was saved from this movie
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>>85089475
>Are there good suicide squad comics?
ostrander's run
new suicide squad after convergence, particularly seeley's short run

> Did anyone give a shit before this movie?
Not really, it was a C lister book before new 52 and was a c lister book with harley with new 52
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>>85089398
it's on 33% on both all and top critics now, on 46 reviews

previously top critics had been evenly split on 50%

there's probably no recovery from here on out
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>Leto literally making himself an outcast in Hollywood in this one movie despite everyone loving him just a year ago.
Maybe he just wants to do music?
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NEXT TIME DON'T MARKET YOUR OBSCURE COMICBOOK/SUPER HERO MOVIES TO NORMIES
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>>85089519
It had less profit than Ant-Man. Scott Lang's Ant-Man.

It did make more in merch, but still.
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>>85089529
>Well MoS had its problems, but BvS looks great!
>Well, BvS had its problems, but Suicide Squad looks great!
>Well, Suicide Squad had its problems, but Justice League looks great!

When will it end?
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>>85089462
A better cut film
To get an actual impression of Letos Joker
More BenMan
>>85087450
>>85087434
It won't be something amazing but why the fuck would I watch a shit version of a film when i could wait 2 months, see a hopefully better version of it and not waste the money and just pirate it

>>85089475
Ostranders run
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>>85089186
>but Marvel!
Just because one Marvel is doing it poorly doesn't mean WB can't also do it poorly
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>>85089508
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>>85089491

Harry Potter still IS their big thing.

Even if they have to create new movies from scratch, they're gonna milk that fucker for decades.
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>>85089469
It all depends on how JL does, but at this point I think the brand is finished, at least for a few years
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>>85089546
He almost had Croc's part.

Dodged a bullet there.
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>>85089546
Based CW doing DC better than the movies.
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>>85089304
>The WWI scenario already feels boring
is this another amicatard? WWI is far more interesting than 2 because the factions weren't clearly drawn. WWI was a complete clusterfuck and that's why it's interesting.

Agree with you on Gadot's acting. /co/ has finally gone from critisizing her build to her acting, which is the worst of the two. In the trailer she doesn't show a single facial reaction to anything except Etta Candy and that joke fell flat as hell
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>>85089475
Just the original run, I wouldn't recommend the rest unless you're used to Johns/Simone level tripe.
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>>85089559
>Ant Man starring Nude Tayne did better than fucking Batman v Superman

People keep saying Marvel "plays it safe" but it seems like the opposite to me
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>>85088831
>fantastic four
U wut m8?
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>>85089555
>BvS is bad because it wasnt for casuals
>SS is bad because it is for normies
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>>85089475
Ostrander's run in the 90s was good
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>>85089555
>NEXT TIME DON'T MARKET YOUR OBSCURE COMICBOOK/SUPER HERO MOVIES TO NORMIES

They aren't looking to make Dredd money here.
Warner Brothers is a business. A terrible, terrible business.
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I have no idea why you guys are surprised that doing comic book movies in this vein isn't working when comics in this vein nearly killed the entire industry back in the 90s.
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>>85089568
and you imagine there's enough footage to cut that together

wouldn't it be easier to just imagine what your perfect movie would be like instead of becoming emotionally invested in bad movies somehow magically improving?

if the people who own and released this crap thought there were a better movie to be made out of the footage they had, they'd have made it

they weren't looking for bad reviews
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>>85089589
Considering how little actual worldbuilding Rowling left out of the books, they'd be stupid not to.
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>>85089613

What what? Fox has FF. Simply out of spite at this point, but it's still theirs.
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>>85089645
That's gonna be a bitch to pass
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>>85089636
>>85089555
>waiting for the bubble to burst
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>>85089398
No it's not.

It's going to be at ~35% and it would take a lot of good reviews and no bad reviews to bring it up to 50%
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>>85089177
Why are you laughing though? I honestly feel bad for DC Rebirth, it is literally being fucked by movies.
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>>85089607
I'd say that their safe movies have done the worst critically, actually.

Guardians, TWS, CW, GotG, Ant-Man and Iron Man were all conceptually weird or were weird choices of movies.

Thor 2, TIH, AoU, IM2 were pretty cookie cutter and weren't as well received.

Thor 1 and IM3 were sort of middle ground, in terms of daring, with different results, so it's not always a clear line.
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>>85089529
>>85089563
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>>85089645
>Lego batman is going to be best DC movie in years

Holy shit
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>>85089432
US Box office is even worse for WB
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>>85089426
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>>85089645

But will he eat all of it or just the head?
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>>85089680
Rebirth is doing really well though
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Yfw Marvel gets the rights to the DCU movies

The onlu hope at this point is Justice League to not shit the bed. Maybe then they'll let the far superior tv shows be brought in as alternate universes
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>>85089662
Bubble is getting there.

We now have Superhero sitcoms trying to cash in. The burst isn't far.
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>>85089514
I can confirm. Huge Suicide Squad fan and the second I saw that this was going to be the Harley Quinn show featuring Joker, Batman and Will Smith as Deadshot In Name Only I wrote it off as garbage.
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>>85089697
Not for long
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>>85089361
>>85089373
>co is so retarded that they can't recognise old copypasta
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>>85089498
It's basically like "latino is a thug, Australian throws boomerangs, etc". I saw some faggot complain that way on Twitter.
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>>85089697
Yes but now the general public's perception of DC is going to be even worse right as the comics do better.
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>>85089690
>10. Central Intelligence

Kevin Hart must be stopped.
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>>85088049
me
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>>85089700
Thats not how shit works /tv/
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>>85089645
Suggestion: Eat it piece by piece. Don't just try to swallow the whole thing.
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>>85089721
>>85089734
The general public doesn't buy comics regardless
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>>85087248
>>85087738
>>85087981
KEK
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>>85089426
>Sceencap the entire page just so I can show you how mad I am at your post
Wow you sure showed him
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>>85089722
jokes are all about timing
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>>85089650
Monsters looks better than the Harry potter, desu
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>>85089700
>Yfw Marvel gets the rights to the DCU movies
It would be so based.
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>>85089778
no, he's doing that to show the mods he doesn't care about announcing his reports in the thread
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>>85089690
>Secret life of Pets is going outperform Batman vs Superman in the American market

Thanks WB I was looking forward to another decade+ of how people will complain you can't relate to Superman
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>>85088392
>barney fag recognizing another barney fag

Way to go. You went on your search history to expose them. Awesome job.
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Everyone knew it was y going to be garbage after the reshoots
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>>85089235
>mfw even the audience can separate 'muh fun shit movie' mindset and actually rate that movie like it should but ''''''''''''''pro'''''''''''''' ''''''''''''critics'''''''''' can't.
Ok, what the fuck is going on?
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>>85086961
She looks like a scene girl who ran away from home and became a crack whore. No thanks.
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>>85089555
>Harley quinn
>obscure
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>>85089819
N-no, every movie gets reshoots! Stop complaining!
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>>85089819
>Everyone knew it was going to be garbage

fixed
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Go read the DC movie subreddit.
It's like people being told their dog has died
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So, how do you think the rating is going to affect everything? I think this'll be worse than BvS. At least people know who the fuck Batman and Superman are.
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>>85088996
Well then DC movies so far aren't talking to the audience like they are retards.
They tried to go past the middle school jokes and quips but the audience doesn't want that anymore. The audience the same shitty flick every fucking time.

I'm not saying that SS or BvS area deeper movies but they're tried to do something different and more iconographic
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>>85089800
At the very least, I'm sure it will be a better standalone movie than any of the HP entries. They should just get Netflix to redo Harry Potter so that they can actually do the shit that they skipped in the books and leave the movies for original stories.
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>>85089851
>>85089851
>Shit, we need to darken up Justice League and Wonder Woman again!
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>>85089851
Aquaman is cancelled for sure.
WW and JL look too far along to cancel but they're gonna be scaled way back.
The penny counters are going to be asking "What makes you think that this franchise really needs 100 million dollar budget for each movie?"
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>>85089851
It'll effect how many movie it makes and how much they mess with the Wonder Woman movie.
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>>85089846
>reddit
That's ok you can just go there and stay.
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>>85089302
I love how the mods of r/movies and r/moviescirclejerk are good friends even though the users aren't.
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>>85089846
>Go read the DC movie subreddit
>DC movie subreddit
>subreddit
>reddit
Kill yourself
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>>85089853
That's a nice SAT word you've got there

Too bad the movies are still garbage
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>>85089555
Guardians of the Galaxy was obscure but the movie made them mainstream.The problem is with WB not understanding what tone a movie should have.
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>>85089049
>but Disney is really big
We want you *too*, anon.
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>>85089846
All I want for Christmas is a public meltdown from a WB executive/director.
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>>85086989
>>85088320
>>85089829

Youre loss bud
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>>85089908
>SAT word
Quips? Go back to school.
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>>85089905
>>85089899
>they don't like going to Reddit to watch the normies lose their shit over comic movies

Missing out t b h f a m
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>>85089853
Anon BvS was a standard grim dark Batman film with shitty writting

do something different and more iconographic is closer to what Ant-man did, what Deadpool did.
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>>85089924
Ayer's pretty close to the edge.
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>>85089432
>Disney has 4 huge hits with 3 more to come
Dr. Strange, Rogue 1 and what else?
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>>85089825
critics watch a lot of shit films so a film satirizing shit films gets them all riled up
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>>85089924

I too would enjoy seeing this.
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>>85087747
Wasn't the tattoo on the bottom of her foot or something? Easily a thing that never has to be seen ever.
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>>85089819
But movies have been good that had reshoots. Winter Soldier had them. Was there something special about these?
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so we de pasties?
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>>85089899
>>85089905
>defending reddit
Ok now.
I know you're upset about the movie, but that's too far.
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>>85089948
>Missing out t b h f a m
I'll just take my chances, meme master.
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>>85089447
>>85089552
>>85089664

No the rating not the freshometer
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>>85089851
Wonder Woman is going to be fucked with.
Her tone is now going to be all over the place too because WB won't be able to decide whether people hate the quippiness of SS or the darkness of BvS/MOS more.

Flash is gonna be like 95% quips and Aquaman will probably be thought over some more
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>>85089853
The problem is when you do that, if you whiff you look like even more of an idiot. Marvel keeps hitting singles reliably while WB seems to want to only hit grand slams, but instead fans the pitch so hard they fall down and shit themselves. I get it, I admire the intent and the effort, but the result makes you look like the doofiest amateur possible.
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>>85089577
Never argued that
>>
This reminds of the simpsons episode where Homer had a pet lobster and try to balance his aquarium between salt-water and regular water, so both fish and lobster survived, fine tuning by adding more salt and water, till both the fish and the lobster were half-dead but not full dead.

That's what DC will do with "fun" and "serious".
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>>85089722
>memes aren't funny because they've been posted before
?
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>>85089684
>>85089684
it's cause cape stories are best when they are not about fighting super villains. The best superhero stories are about character building and a lot of the time that has little to do with the villain, it's what they are feeling or what they are grappling with on a personal level.

Ant Man succeeded cause it was a movie about families and how they get fucked up but if you try you can salvage that. IM1 was about a man attempting to get over himself and become something his father would have been proud of. That carries on into CW

Zack Snyder doesn't get this. He thinks we hate hero deconstructions, we don't, we just want to understand the hero behind the mask, not some stupid god complex.
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>>85089954
Moana
Dwayne Johnson sells seats
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So is Suicide Squad a social commentary on the military?
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>>85089987
I wonder if WW will go down the MUH FEMINISM route after Ghostbusters flopped?

Either way I think people are going overhype that one way too much. Everyone says she was "great" in BvS, she wasn't great, she just wasn't shit and everything around her was.
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>>85090026
no that be Civil War
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>>85090009
The Simpsons are owned by Fox though.
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>>85089954
Rogue 1 is gonna crash.
It got hit with even more reshoots than Skwad.
And we all know what reshoots mean now
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>>85089942
I'm trying but I still need to take the GRE
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>>85089908
See? Not only there is a bias but there is no trying to get interested.

Most of them aren't even interested in the source material

DC should have built their Cinematic Universe on the Nolan movies. They were successful and people would have liked anything based on it.
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>>85087283
Kek


Does anyone have the interview where he said "fuck Marvel"?
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dammit /co/!

you told me that everything would be solved without Snyder!

tfw I was actually looking forward to it
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>>85090052
>crash

Maybe critically but no way it doesn't make a shit ton of money
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>>85089949


>do something different and more iconographic is closer to what Ant-man did, what Deadpool did.

There nothing different and iconic about them.
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>>85090060
>DC should have built their Cinematic Universe on the Nolan movies
Didn't they try to do that but Nolan said no?
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>>85090039
>I wonder if WW will go down the MUH FEMINISM route after Ghostbusters flopped?
Ghostbusters flopped because there wasn't a target audience.
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>>85090016
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Oscar incoming, too.

Jeez, what a year.

>>85090015
DC will start making bank when they start adapting elseworlds/standalone stories with a non-fixed cast to reduce costs and increase longevity. Red Son, Kingdom Come, Flashpoint, all the batman standalone stories.

They have such a fucking bank of those and it's sitting there.

>>85090052
It's literally called "Star Wars". I'm sure they've had worse that made bank.
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>>85090052
it's fucking Star Wars, literally guaranteed ticket sales
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>>85090039
I don't really see how you can't do feminism with Wonder Woman
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>>85089854
that....is a good idea. someone make this man an exec
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>>85090074
But it will make less than optimal. Like BvS.
And that's a crash as far as Hollywood is concerned.
Their #1 one cost is opportunity cost.
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>>85090015
>Ant Man succeeded cause it was a movie about families and how they get fucked up but if you try you can salvage that.
Wow. No. Ant-Man was a heist movie with ants and quips and fighting on toys for more laughs. It'seems a forgettable comedy with yet another forgettable villain.

>IM1 was about a man attempting to get over himself and become something his father would have been proud of.
As was Iron man 2... and Iron Man 3... and Age of Ultron... and Civil War...

Gee. You'd think Tony would learn his fucking lesson already. Oh well, as long as retards keep paying for tickets, might as well stick to the exact same formula.
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>>85090052
>Star Wars
>crash
It may not have 90%+
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>>85090070
Don't let reviews kill yr hype
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>>85089819
I had no hope for BvS but I honestly thought SS had potential.
I'm not surprised it suck though. It's pretty much the same wall WB's been hitting since GL. It's not about the tone being too light (GL) or too dark (MoS/BvS), it's about a complete lack of respect for the source material. And I don't mean just getting the small details wrong (but obviously they do that too) it's about getting the whole picture wrong. They don't understand these characters on a fundamental level.
They think Green Lantern is a complete asshole who just goes out of his way to fuck with his co-workers.
They think Superman is a Randian objectivist who only helps those who he is personally invested in.
And they think Batman is a deranged sociopath who only cares about revenge.
>>85089853
I don't know what this deeper meaning you're banging on about is, but if the guys making these movies can't understand the basic idea of these characters as heroes, how do you expect them to delve any deeper into their psyche?
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Why did they go for croc instead of King Shark?
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>>85090114
I didn't say feminism, I said MUH FEMINISM

There's a difference

>>85090120
I really doubt it. Star Wars hype is back in full swing.

>>85090137
>quips are always bad! I hate quips!
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>strolling through twitter to see what people think about the whole thing
>see this guy
He has like three more pages of such tweets. Why would someone be this mad about movie they haven't seen?
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>>85089131
>like the ending to Gundam SEED Destiny
I have no idea what that means?
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>>85090155
Ayer didn't want a full-cgi main character.
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>>85090105
Just pls no Killing Joke Live Action, I can't do that shit on 4chan...
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>>85090165
Nothing sinister about it, he's just a reasonable and passionate guy
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>>85090155
Anything tied to the Bat prints money.
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>>85090165
He's paid.
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>>85090109
yeah, even the lowest selling of the prequels and OT would smash most other movies

>>85089985
it's down on OP by .1

and again, RT's freshometer doesn't ignore the ratings of reviews - those are presented separately because a mean average of hundreds of different scoring systems is inherently innacurate
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>>85090089
By your logic then BvS is in the same boat.
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>>85089175
>one of the will be a inhumans woking with x-men
Isn't that literally what Uncanny Avengers (aka The Unity Team) was supposed to be?
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>>85090165

They're called "paid shills"
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>>85089302
>No this can't be happening
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>>85090150
>They think Green Lantern is a complete asshole who just goes out of his way to fuck with his co-workers.
>They think Superman is a Randian objectivist who only helps those who he is personally invested in.
>And they think Batman is a deranged sociopath who only cares about revenge.

You were wrong on three accounts.
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>>85089922
I'm actually regretting that fact because now we got them tied into shitty events
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>>85090148
yeah im probably gonna see it anyways
Im hoping for something thats so bad its good at best, but that might just be wishful thinking
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>>85088830
>DC will always try to copy Marvel's success strategy
I'd say that's wrong. They try to copy what made individual movies successful, but the MCU as a whole is successful for reasons DC has ignored. They tried too much too soon, and didn't have the patience Marvel did to build up a brand of good to okay movies before going all in. You don't need to have specific kinds of movies to build a franchise, you just need good ones with an eye towards the long game.

Marvel did that with a handul of what were once lower-tier names. DC and Warner just saw the dollar signs and fucked it all up, and now I bet they're looking for the people to blame. It's not just Snyder that's at fault here, it's whomever couldn't keep a handle on him and whomever couldn't get their plans in order.
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>>85090165
every side of anything has crazies on the extreme ends. he's the flipside of people crying because it's getting bad reviews.
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>>85090165
Its a bot...from the imaginary army of shills that Disney '''''''''''''''''doesn't''''''''''' owns.
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>>85090105
>Jeez, what a year.
Agree
There is a serious chance that in top 10 highest grossing films of the year, 7 will be Disney properties
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>>85090200
it was in the 3.s
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>>85090165
>>85090188
>>85090195
https://twitter.com/alex20971

he seems pretty big into DC just glancing at his timeline
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>>85090159
>quips are always bad!
Pretty much.
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>>85090269
Nice meme, try having an original thought sometime.
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>>85090115
>....
Fuck off.
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>>85089958
But its been widely publicized that she got it. Tattoos still have huge social stigma in East Asia. Hell, they're illegal in South Korea.
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>>85090267
He actually sounds autistic.
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>>85090137
>Wow. No. Ant-Man was a heist movie with ants and quips and fighting on toys for more laughs. It'seems a forgettable comedy with yet another forgettable villain.

you and me got drastically different things from the movie. Peyton Reed wanted to show families in it, and indeed he did, and he know how to do it subtly and not hamfist it down at you.

All of the scenes with Hope and Hank were perfect, when ever you see them stand next to each other they are always leaning away from each other, clearly showing a history of not getting along.

And the whole new husband an asshat thing took a great twist when it turns out he's a good guy and allows Scott back into their life.

There are dozens of other family things in the move, hell the villain and Hank are family too. If all you got from it was a heist film, I'm sorry. It was actually a lot more nuanced than that
>>
So let me get this straight. we are grading something that shouldn't be graded?
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>>85087537
He'll be fine. For example, he damaged his kidneys almost irreversibly going full method for that John Lennon's killer role, and that was for a movie that literally no one watched and was shitted on twice as much as SS.
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>>85090324
RT is not a grade, it's a poll about meeting expectations.
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>>85090238
clutching at straws

>>85090233

this guy?

https://twitter.com/Alex20971/status/760526206508929028
https://twitter.com/Alex20971/status/759888152777592832

reads more like a neckbeard than a bot, especially taking his retweets into account
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>>85089949
I liked Antman but it was a typical vanilla flick.
I haven't seen Deadpool, it seemed more original but was still about a quippy super hero bit in a more "extreme" way
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>>85090289
Almost all kpop stars have tattoos.

Come on grandpa, it's not Vietnam anymore
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>>85089302
>literally tendies

Nothing about this is genuine
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>>85089302
Is Reddit parodying themselves at this point?
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New thread?
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>>85090288
punctuation triggers you?
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>>85086906
>TDKR
Memes aside I really liked TDKR, weakest one in the trilogy but a solid 7.5/10 imo
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>>85090233
>Any and every reason for Warner doing shitty films is outside of Warner's control

Such delusion, it's really sad to even think people could fanboy like this
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>>85090403
>circlejerk in the subreddit title
Ya think?
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>>85090304
Nuance doesn't count for much when it isn't the focus of the story. All of that deep family plot you seem to sing such high praise for is all subplot. It's there to give background to each character to establish relationships. Not send a meaningful message. In the end it's all forgotten when Scott ditches his family to fight in a retarded "Civil war".

So yes in the end it's just a heist movie with ants. That's what anyone will tell you if you ask them. If they can remember it.
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>>85089135
But they did. I've been kicking myself for nearly a decade for not upgrading from the original Warner Books printing to one with better print quality.
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>>85089934
Riley Reid

and off to fap I go!
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>>85090096
I think he said that he didn't wanted to work on Batman anymore?
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>>85090438
Sounds like you're just too dumb to follow along. Family clearly was the message. It's the focus of all the ending scenes.
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>>85090438
you are wrong on a fundamental level, many great stories have subplots or contextualized plots that frame the story. Most great novels have these naratives that frame the story and set tone. there is no way I will place Ant Man up there with the great novels but it is using those story building tools, which is something you can't say about a lot of cape films besides maybe Watchmen and all of that is from Moore not Snyder.
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>Thread about a DC movie ends up with fags arguing about a mediocre comedy with bug-based characters
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>>85090537
Actually he wanted to do Superman but Zach was willing to suck cock while Nolan wanted to tell his story. This lead to Nolan wanting out of cape shit for awhile
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>>85090690
He was the one that argued with Snyder on the neck-snapping.

Said Snyder eventually convinced him but now I wonder if it wasn't more of a "fine, whatever, do what you want."
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>>85090727
Reminds me of the Spielberg/Lucas discussions during Crystal Skull.
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>>85090680
If Ant-Man is mediocre, the last few DC films must have negative scores
>>
Man, I wish I had the same taste as the critics and the majority of people. I'll probably end up liking it, but it sucks to see it getting this many bad reviews. I can't even type up what I want to actually say about the whole DCEU thing without it sounding like bad bait.
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>>85090680
Shows you how much better a film it was
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>>85090791
Don't worry anon, I'm in that boat too. I genuinely want to like the film
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>>85090749
Here it is. I forgot Goyer wanted the neck snapping as well.

>“In the original version of the script, Zod just got zapped into the Phantom Zone,” Snyder explains on the podcast, “But David, Chris and I had long talks about it, and I said that I really feel like we should kill Zod, and that Superman should kill him. The ‘Why?’ of it for me was that if was truly an origin story, his aversion to killing is unexplained… I wanted to create a scenario where Superman, either he’s going to see [Metropolis’ citizens] chopped in half, or he’s gotta do what he’s gotta do.”

>Goyer agreed with Snyder on the idea, but there remained one behind-the-scenes holdout, and not a lightweight one either: producer Christopher Nolan. “[Chris] originally said, ‘There’s no way you can do this.’ After checking in with DC Comics about the change, to which they responded positively, Goyer was spurred forward. “I came up with this idea of heat vision and these people about to die, and I wrote the scene, gave it to Chris, and he said, ‘Okay you’ve convinced me.’ ”

http://www.indiewire.com/2013/06/christopher-nolan-initially-disagreed-with-the-ending-of-man-of-steel-superman-birthright-writer-hates-the-result-96895/
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>>85090815
>either he’s going to see [Metropolis’ citizens] chopped in half, or he’s gotta do what he’s gotta do

Funny that Superman doesn't seem to care about those citizens when he's making out with Lois
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>>85090815
I like that he thinks we need to see Superman discover an aversion for killing. As if before this he was wishy-washy on the subject.

That's just perfect.
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>>85090900
>Pa, is killing wrong?
>lol, who cares son?
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>>85090900
Oh, anon. You have to actually kill somebody to learn that it's generally not a pleasant thing to do.
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>>85090964
>Pa, should I risk myself to save others?
>Never. Remember, your safety is priority #1
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>>85090984
I knew I shouldn't have skipped that day in 4th grade where we stabbed a hobo.
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>>85091003
>Ma, should I use my extraordinary powers to do good and help people?
>Pfft, who cares, do whatever
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>>85091072
Yeah, my hobo stabbing day was one of the best moments of my elementary school education.
One kid missed it and he never learned why murder is bad.
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>>85091108
that kid must be an absolute madman by now
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>>85091192
nah after his first kill later in high school he got the gist. but it messed his development up bad.
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>>85089540
>Suicide Squad have never really been much.
>Not even aware of the Ostrander run
>being this casual
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>>85089540
Suicide Squad is more reliant than GotG was before the film.
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>>85090815
Why does Snyder have such a boner for comic book heroes actually killing people?

Isn't he some kind of hardcore christian? He made Superman such a thinly veiled Jesus analogy... Does he want Jesus to kill people?

Would his version of "The Passion of the Christ" end with Jesus jumping off the cross and snapping Pontius Pilate's neck?
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>>85091288
good != Popular
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>>85091318
>He made Superman such a thinly veiled Jesus analogy
>thinly veiled
You havin a laff, m8?
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>>85091288
the team itself is a c list team anon
Like on par with Outsiders where some people know it exists but have only glanced at the run that goes on right then and there, but most people don't really care about it
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>>85090815

>After checking in with DC Comics about the change, to which they responded positively, Goyer was spurred forward.

DC approved the killing of Zod.
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>>85091367
The framing in the church is even more egregious
Like, it's Superman right next to a stained glass depiction of Jesus
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>>85091318
I think he thinks it's just so deep and intellectual when really if the character doesn't really kill and people know of them not killing then people won't fucking like it

MOS and BvS wouldn't have been such a big deal had it been like Wonder Woman or even Aquaman who does it, instead of, you know, Batman with his no kill rule and Superman, who is widely regarded as more a beacon of hope.
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Should just face it.

Any movie that isn't a Quipfest, a Horror, or "ironically shitty" will never get good reviews.

>critics loved Nu Ghostbusters and it is CERT. FRESH
>literally thinking NuGB is better than GB2

Even GB2 is better than that horrid sellout. But I guess racist stereotypes and crazy dykes make a good movie according to critics.
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>>85091457

Superman has killed before. Heck, Superman killed Zod in Superman II.

What bothered people wasn't Superman killing Zod, it was the whole later half of the movie filled with destruction and death.

One minute you're in a Superman and cape movie and the next you're catching flashes of 9/11. Not to mention that when Superman kills Zod is more of a defeat than anything else with Superman bawling like a baby.
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>>85091447
More than that though, it is a window of Jesus in Gethsemane where he is choosing whether or not to allow himself to be crucified which within the dogma of the church leads to the souls of humanity being saved as Kal is right there choosing whether to give himself up to Zod or let him exact the threat he gave during YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
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>>85087675
>moustache
>qt
nice meme
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>>85091539

Superman kills more than fucking Batman.

But yeah MoS would be fixed is Clark had gone to Metropolis frantically looking for survivors instead of kissing Lois.
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>>85091447
if you want jesus imagery at least do it artfully. This stuff is pretty bad
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>>85091574
It wouldn't have been fixed, but it would have been without one of it's most glaring bad decisions.
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>>85091574

MoS later half was just too fucking depressing.

One of the two bigger scenes in the later half other than Superman fighting Zod is the colonel sacrificing himself to kill Faora with a black hole and Perry White being unable to save Girl-Jimmy Olsen from a rubble as certain death slowly approach them.

WHO THE FUCK PAY MONEY TO GO SEE THIS SHIT IN A SUPERMAN MOVIE? WHITE TRYING TO SAVE A GIRL FROM A RUBBLE AND THEN GIVING UP JUST STAYING THERE ACCEPTING CERTAIN DOOM?

ALSO, DON'T SHOW PEOPLE FALLING FROM THE TOWERS, YOU FUCKS!
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>>85086961
>she's hot as hell
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>>85091782
>Hey we have an exceptionally hot tag team right now, should we pair the girl up with them like in NXT?
>Nah fuck her.

Seemed like such a no brainer movie. Ah well let's laugh at DC some more.
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Do we know whom Eastwood Junior is playing?
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>>85091736
>WHITE TRYING TO SAVE A GIRL FROM A RUBBLE AND THEN GIVING UP JUST STAYING THERE ACCEPTING CERTAIN DOOM?
I don't like MoS, but I always interpreted that more as the Chief not leaving one of his employees to die by herself. I thought it was unironically one of the most subtle attempts within the plot to convey Superman having taken his first steps toward bettering the world by inspiring Perry to generally think about others, or in this case, Jenny, before himself.
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>>85091863

It's still sad as fuck and something that shouldn't be in a cape movie ever.
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>>85086942
Yes, thanks to it competing with Pirates 5 and Transformers 5.
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>>85091888
Agree, 100%, but of all of the content in that movie that is sad as fuck, and shouldn't be in a superhero movie, let alone one about the superhero most associated with inspiring hope and optimism, as least this one has a silver lining.
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>>85091861
search it up spoilers are online
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>>85090791
>>85090814

Thanks for restoring my faith, folks. I'm still looking forward to SS and plan to see it this weekend.
>Of course, I thought BvS wasn't that bad.
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>>85089601
Do you honestly believe they're going to do even a single thing properly utilizing what's so interesting about WWI?
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>>85087894
That would be beautiful if it happens, after Arthur got so many "Lol useless and talks with fish" jabs it would perfectly put everyone in their place.
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>>85087634
All those buzzwords, are movie critics this pretentious?
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