Mega Man X... What took you so long?

>>85083173
>Originator of reploids
>Leader in the Elf Wars
>advisor to Zero during MMZ
>Power Ranger Morpher during the ZX series
Probably something in MML too, but I can't recall

Why was X so influential?

>>85083245
>Why was X so influential?
First true sentient robot.

>>85083454
Thought that was Protoman.

>>85083715
classic robots didn't have free will

Kept you waiting?

>>85083715
Not quite.
He wasn't sentient, he just had free will so long as it followed his programmed personality. There's a difference.

>>85085163
Wasn't the story of the first game that Wily reprogrammed the bots?
I don't think that'd work on X, would it?

>>85085249
It wouldn't work on Proto either.
The difference is Blues has pre-ordained morality. He can't have his will altered, but he can't truly grow as a person or make real decisions either. Meanwhile, X is basically a metal human.

>>85083715
Okay, here's the difference.

Protoman's programmed with a personality. Everything he is, his cool loner attitude and all, that's all stuff that Dr. Light programmed into him. He will never grow, never change, never develop as a person. It's like with Megaman. Rock will always have the personality of a happy, responsible ten year old boy. It's impossible for them, as robots, to age and change. They're simple robots, they exist to serve a single purpose (lab assistants/surrogate sons) and they can't grow beyond that without outside interference (Wily and Light arming each of them and programming them to fight.) It's implied that there's also some kind of Asmovian Laws in place, largely in the end sequence of Megaman 7 where Wily's all "You can't kill me, you're a robot!" and Megaman either instantly freezes or insists that he's MORE than a robot but still doesn't do shit, depending on whether you're playing the Japanese or American version.

X, on the other hand, developed on his own. Dr. Light was both terrified and excited about this because, unlike with all of his other robots, he had no idea how X would end up. It's why he put X into a containment pod for thirty years to run ethics and morality tests, so that he wouldn't accidentally unleash evil onto the world. X is totally free to do whatever he wants, however he wants it.

No one else could build a mechanical brain like that. A hundred years after Megaman's time, and robotic brains were still the same.

That said, he doesn't exist in Legends. Probably a good thing, can you imagine living for ten thousand years with no one else keeping you company?

>>85083245
X was nowhere to be found in Legends. Even the major backstory on Elysium happens long after he's gone. It's the only series that's allowed to just be a straight up new generation entirely.

>>85088082
uh, dude? x is a major part of dash's backstory. there's even tapestries depicting the fight with giant bald guy
what do you think caused the major ancient cataclysm in their backstory? it was the whole fucked up future thing. just at some point the reploids advanced enough to be humanish

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Soulless automaton.

Dr Light didn't shed a single tear when he broke down and just tossed him a dumpster or trash masher without so much a passing thought

>>85088310
No, it's a tapestry showing Volnutt fighting Juno. They were doing the whole "Sonic 3" thing.

>>85088310
The ancient cataclysm was the flood alluded to in ZXA. By the time the events of Elysium happened, where the backstory of the series actually happens, X was long gone. And the tapestry you're talking about is literally a prophecy of Volnutt's battle with Juno at the end.

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>>85088395
>Roll and Protoman were made into junk too
>X dosn't seem to care about what happen to them.

>>85088859

They where melted and turned into hubcaps or something

>>85086716
Good writeup, thanks.

>>85088659
This
Also, I think it's implied that the 'carbons' in legends are just reploid/cyborgs. They have mechanical parts grafted to their body, and seemingly function only tangentially like a human.

Actual humans by that point are long gone.

>>85089262
Yeah, it's all but stated that the last human died in Elysium, and that Carbons are basically reploids that are so advanced that they might as well be organic. The live, breathe, grow, die, have children, get sick, etc. just like humans.

Dr. Light won.

>>85088859
He may not even know. There is no reason to believe that he is even aware of their existence.

He didn't even know who Dr. Wily was without Alia performing a massive archive search in X6. Even then it didn't mention him by name.

>>85089311

What a hero.

>>85089319

Isn't it something like only 100 years between X and classic?

you'd think the big multi attempt global terrorist would be a bigger section in the history books

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>>85088659
>We will never get ZXA 2

>Two best girls basically in stasis forever.

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>>85083173

>>85089585
Classic was 200X and 20XX.

X is 21XX and Command Mission was 22XX.

Zero is 22XX or 23XX.

ZX is either 24XX or 25XX.

Legends takes place in 120XX.

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>>85089642
>We will never get Legends 3
>We will never get Starforce 4
>We will never get more Archie Megaman
>We will never get anything but the inevitably shitty cartoon and licensed game

>>85089585
Not really. It's sort of like the guy who tried to burn down a greek libary in the BC era just to get famous - people know the story, but not who takes part in it due to removed names in a effort to make sure no copycats appear

and it sort of worked, nobody else has built a billion skull castles since - although Sigma seemed to retain the fondness of fortressess.

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>>85089705
Yep. And now they live on in forgotten scam games.

>>85090816
Those Medal games are ancient though, they've been a thing since Battle Network was at the height of its popularity over ten years ago.

>>85089642
>no ZX2/ZXA2.ZXB
>After that fucking reveal from hard mode

Fucking hell
Never even got to dick around as Prometheus and Pandora

Reading this thread I never realized megaman games had so much connected story.

>>85088310
isn´t zero with the black armor on a tv on a shop in legends 2?

>>85092735

first one I think

>>85089699
nobody knows what the x means tho, they can basically say whatever number of years have passed, i think it´s left ambiguous to avoid incosistencies in the timeline, the story is already too convoluted

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Best robot master of all time.

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>>85092735
Yeah, there's also a couple manga volumes with Cut Man and Calinka on the cover, and a TV playing a classic Megaman cartoon. They're easter eggs.

>>85092836
>nobody knows what the x means tho

We don't have to understand what the X means when we can plainly see what the 199 preceding it means. Mega Man can't be before 1990 and it can't be after 1999.

Like wise the 21 part of 21XX narrows it down quite a bit too. We can easily guess what century they're in, so X take's place no less than 100 years but no more than 199

>>85086716
But Protoman was unintentionally a precursor to reploids. He had a flawed core system that will eventually kill him, but to fix that issue would also remove the 'glitch' that gave him something very damn close to free will and sense of self. This is why he refused to let Dr. Light help him, and one of the reasons he acts alone typically.

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>>85093463
That's not Cut Man.

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>>85093463
Look up in the sky it's it's a bird it's a plane

>>85086716
>No one else could build a mechanical brain like that. A hundred years after Megaman's time, and robotic brains were still the same.

Wait, you mean reploids and shit made from X's schematics don't have free will like he does?

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>>85093463
Dark>shadow

>>85094558
Does Zero? He was built by dr wily, so maybe?

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>>85093463
That isn't Skullman, nigga

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>>85094470
>>85094552
>>85094777
>>85094888
Such poor taste, all of you. Foolish gaijin...

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>>85093463

>Archie Comics Mega Man elaborates on the old flavor text that Shadow Man wasn't actually made by Dr. Wily, and originates from space.
>Shadow Man was originally a drone in service of the Ra Moon/Stardroids/Sunstar
>eventually comes to bond with the MM3 Robot Masters during their arc
>probably would've come back for the MMV/MM8 arcs involving the Stardroids and Duo
>now its cancelled and if it comes back, it'll be the a new continuity with that new cartoon

Why can't we just keep the nice things?

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>>85094995
Shadowman's weakness is a beyblade. That's pretty lame.

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How come Lan's dad didn't have a navi?

>>85095177
Because he invented them right?

>>85083173

>Zero, I...jpg

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>>85095256
Are you looking for this

>>85088082
>>85083245

I thought X was that blond guy from Elysium who was like the original human. They just stopped caring what a human was actually made of and decided to call him a human in a sort of irony, and he had amnesia and just didn't want to correct them.

>does he have two legs and two arms and a head?
>yeah, close enough. he's the last human

>>85095311

Perfect, thank you

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>>85095359
No. Not at all. The Master had nothing to do with X.

>>85094558
>Wait, you mean reploids and shit made from X's schematics don't have free will like he does?

Reploids only began to be called reploids when they had free will which was after they started mass producing them based on X's designs, they had free will. The whole repliforce clusterfuck wouldn't have happened if robots didn't have free will. Hell one of the bigger ironies of the X era is how the word maverick degraded over time from referring to reploids that are in some ways malfunctioning due to a virus or a bug in their programming to simply any robot that went against humans out of their free will.

>>85095619
Also it can be said that Light never managed to perfect free will in robots because he had to subject X to decades of moral test simulations while in the pod to make sure that when he was activated he wouldn't just decide to kill humans but would value life.

>>85094834
Zero sure as hell isn't tied down by the Asimov laws given how his last act in Z4 was to kill a human villain.

>>85095777
So does that mean dr wily got the whole free will thing down before light?

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>>85095072

>we never got to fight this Evil Robot

MISSED OPPORTUNITY.EXE

>>85095842
It's entirely possible.

We're never told WHY X was created, nor are we told why Zero was never used, even though he was nearing completion in Mega Man Power Battle 2.

>>85095931
If so it makes the events of the Zero series quite ironic.

>>85095842
Probable, all it took was him making an erratic destructive robot that made every other robot that came into contact go insane.

>>85095931
>even though he was nearing completion in Mega Man Power Battle 2.
That's mostly because Capcom absolutely never ever wants to fill the gap that bridges the classic timeline to the X timeline

>>85096000
trips don't lie. madness breeds order.

>>85096000
Knowing Wily he probably made Zero that way on purpose.

>>85095205
I'm not sure about that but even if he did why won't he have one?

Holy fuck I just noticed this isn't /mmg/

>>85096290
>why won't he have one?
Maybe netnavis are cumbersome when you know a lot about programming? Sometimes you just want to get to shit quickly instead of having a navi ask you what you want to do?

>>85095842
Possible, unlike Light, Wily didn't have any concern about morality, it may have helped during Zero's development, the only question is why he never deployed Zero

>>85095456
considering how femenine and spiritual they made him look in the zero series i wouldn´t be surprised

>>85096000
>000
ZERO SPOTTED

>>85096699

Hell Wily still puts up with Bass's shit Id imagine he'd be all for given Zero free reign if only to spite Light

>>85096699
For some reason, X and Zero were actually preserved TOGETHER, as seen in the end of X5. Which means before X was discovered, Zero apparently ESCAPED.

>>85096774
That's just because of the artist's style making everyone in the Zero series look more feminine. X isn't the Master.

>>85086716

One of the key parts of Mega Man robots is that they're intelligent and self-aware, but not self-determining. Like you say, they they have a predetermined purpose and personality and can't ever be more than that.

Proto Man's different though, for whatever reason. We know he has enough free will to defy Light and remain independent, and I doubt the child-hungry Doctor Light would program a son like that intentionally.

So what if Proto Man's made him more than the typical predetermined robot? It may be that he has the agency to determine the kind of person he is, but what about the other half of the equation? Proto Man either has no built-in purpose- no role as a timber-felling robot or demolitionist or even as lab assistant and son. What if that's the reason he wanders listlessly and plays the distant lone wolf?

What if giving a Mega Man-Style robot Proto Man's free will also meant giving them hardwired chronic depression? It would explain why Light never tried to replicate it without taking the lengths with X.

>>85085060
Let the legend come back to life!

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>>85095872
Did this guy ever show up in the Xseries? He had such a major role in MM8 but he never seemed to show up again in other games.

>>85097126
That doesn't make much sense given how Zero was found by Sigma while X was found by that archeologist that went and used him to make reploids which led to making sigma who discovered Zero.

>>85097224

we all agreed never to talk about Duo again

>>85097245

when Zero was found he was already active and pissed the fuck off

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M-m-m-m-muh dick

>>85097245
True. I think the pod room actually may have been from X6, which has dubious canonicity.

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>>85097253
Is it because he jumped to Marvel?

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>>85083173
>>85095256

>>85084811
a retcon I've been mad about for nearly 20 years.

>>85097345
Inafune wasn't involved in MMX6 so everything was so different compared to it's prior incarnations. And the gameplay, character design and level designs were weird specially the turtle level.

>>85095072
Because of bad editors.

>>85097466
"But, with the exception of Mega Man, all of Dr. Light's near-human robot experimentation went awry. Assistant Dr. Wily turned disloyal, re-programming Dr. Light's Humanoids, now bent on destroying opposition so Dr. Wily could control the world and its resources."

If you can be reprogrammed, do you have free-will?

>>85097562
Humans can be reprogrammed

Archie had it pretty good with Mega Man until second crossover. Only 4 issue structure for trades was bugging me and, for example, I felt like adaptation of first game would've benefited from one more issue.

>>85097509
XANDER PAYNE SPIN OFF WHEN?

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>>85097360
>Hellboy
>Marvel

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>>85097483
Gate was great.

>>85097594

It takes more to reprogram a human than a screwdriver and USB keyboard

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heh.

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Can we please just acknowledge that he had the idea to put a spring on a dog

>>85098146

If that's all it takes to reprogram a robot it's no wonder Wily got ten games.

>>85098478

Im not a robologisit but Wily clearly isn't having any problem with it

>>85098292
The dog is also a jet board and a motorcycle. What is your point?

>>85098677
Those were upgrades. The original was a spring.

>>85098700

seriously it's like someone had to point out the spring was retarded after the fact and it just crushed him because the spring is the only starting form he gets. He was proud of that retarded spring

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>>85098700

>>85098478
I introduce to you Mega Man 7's Robot Museum.
They have all sorts of powerful, dangerous robots on display. Not only that, they all still have their original circuitry and IC chips intact. Wily was able to literally just barge in with 1 robot and steal three, and just turn them on again with no problem

>>85098948
missed BnG coulda had an mm9 arc where George tries to score with Splash Woman

>>85098878
>>85098948
WHEN WILL YOU FOOLS SEE???
THE DESIGN IS INNOVATIVE AND INGENIOUS!

THE SPRING IS RELEASED WHEN YOU JUMP! ON THE DOG! IT MAKES YOU JUMP HIGHER!!!

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I liked X6

>>85099395
I liked X6... didn't love it though. The game had a lot of promise, but its just too bad its level design was just balls to the wall retarded

>>85083173
>we will never have those threads where we post the episode image by image again making dumb comments...

>>85099486

My only real gripe is Zero's return. I mean for fuck's sake, the MAIN VILLAIN OF THE GAME specializes in resurrecting dead mavericks and they didn't think to have him be responsible for Zero's return? This shit writes itself!

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>tfw no leviathan gf

How do I get a leviathan gf?

>>85099580
hhmmmmm, never thought of it like that

>>85099625
People With Baby Torsos Anonymous?

>>85099718

Wasn't Metal Shark Player/Prayer able to resurrect mavericks too? His fight had him summoning some of the X2/3 bosses.

>>85099829
Yes, and his charged weapon summoned Storm Eagle

>>85099625
Wait for navis to be real and get a Leviathan.exe

>>85097483
Inafune wasn't involved with X5 either and his involvement in X4 was merely as a producer. His creative involvement with the series was mostly with the NES and Super NES entries.

>>85099486

Blizzard Wolfang probably had the best design but the falling insta-kill ice blocks at the end were fucking bullshit

>>85083173
the thing i hated a lot was the ending of MHX, you see Light talking with an incomplete X, slowly aging to the point where he is sad he will never see his work fully complete.

we never see what happens after that. what rock and roll do after light passes. at least wily passing is good, im sure they lived and helped people until they couldn't be repaired anymore

i'd like to think that rock would want to have been part of a museum exhibit, known as a hero but also as an example for others.

then we have the 100 years between that is just every day life. nothing seems to really change from 20XX to 21XX. no wars, no more wily to do bad things, just life.

i mean, cain is just an archaeologist, not a robotics expert. his find is an incredible one, im sure that light is in the history books all over the place. but who is the then current leader in robotics? what was doppler doing before X3?

i'd love to know more about the world, but i doubt we ever will.

>>85099829
i think they were just figments of zeros memory manifested as a weapon

>>85100260
"Who cares, robots! Sad robots! Want Zero to be the main character yet? I'll keep trying!"

>>85099395

Not a girl

>>85100401

Fuck Zero. The series is called Mega Man not Inafune's fanfic. ZX should have been blue.

Did aliens or robots from space shows up in a post-classic Mega Man game?

>>85100926

I know~

>>85102420
There was Duo in Battle Network, but other than that not really. The main timeline was 2srs to do stuff like that after Classic.

>>85102891

fag

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I still prefer my Gutsman designs to have gray jaws.

actually the fuck was Duo. They just dropped that whole alien plot line dead

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Post yfw WARE WA MESSAHI NARI HA HA HA

I thought this thread was going to be about the cartoon...

>>85094308
that was never true. Protoman is just afraid of that. he feels that if his flaw is fixed, it might change who he is. Its impossible to say one way or another if thats true or not, but it likely isnt and is just a fear of his.

>>85094558
They do. they are all massproduced based on the reverse engineering of X.

Only thing is they aren't as complex, and therefore, are prone to problems. initial ones were prone to bugs and glitches that make them a danger to themselves and others, and they have absolutely no safeguards against things like viruses, much less super viruses like the Sigma Virus.

X has a unique part to him that constantly makes him have to do the impossible task of worrying over the worth of Reploid and Human lives. So he's constantly in that state of "worry" and carries the weight of the world on his shoulders in everything he does.

he's very unique. he also, probably because of that, and Sigma mentions this in the OVA, while all reploids have free will and feelings etc etc, X feels on an entirely different level to others. he worries far more deeply and philosophically. Sigma never had that problem himself. He just did his job without question, much like Zero himself is the perfect soldier in the Hunters because he does what he's told without thinking about it. (and is an adept killer who doesnt really feel remorse over the reploids he kills, while X does, even if they were bad)

>>85099395
it had good music that's the only possitive thing i can say about it

>>85106950
Huh, I've always liked the X series because it was part of my childhood, [/spoiler] i also live in brasil and never ever touched a NES, first game console was a N64 that i got from my rich aunt , years later, when i could understand english, i played it again and enjoyed even more.

Thanks Lore anon, that's some interesting stuff

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>>85097210
This reminds me. Protoman's design looks awfully familiar. He reminds me of Rock from Metropolis.

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It's worth noting that X grows as a character across the franchise.

in the first X games he's far more a go-getter like his predecessor was. He philosophies a fair bit about the fate of the world, and feels partially responsible for Mavericks, but he has no problem fighting other reploids. he is a bit naiive too. He was quick to trust Double in X4, and feels hurt when Double reveals he was a spy all along

starting with X5, he starts to mention things like how fighting isnt always the answer. hes quick to try and use diplomacy first.

in X6 he's a bit more hardened by the events of X5, particularly Zero's death, and is back to being a go-getter. He has incredible serious determination in X6, and its his best characterization in the series IMO.

on to X7, and somewhere inbetween it and 6, he got sick and tired of fighting, lost his nerve and decided to try being a pure pacifist. It didnt work out and he had to come to the realization that "if you want something done right, youve got to do it yourself". I mean the trigger for unlocking him is rescuing X number of reploids, at which point in the cutscene he looks at casualty numbers before joining the fray.

he's back to normal in X8, with that determination.

fast forward to the Zero series and we learn that having been left alone for a century, endlessly fighting, without any moral support from Zero, he pretty much became Zero. He became fully battle hardened, and eventually realized he no longer cared about killing his enemies. He is very quick to demand that Zero kill his copy "with extreme prejudice". And all the guy wants is to rest from all that. he's a bit more broody by now too.

and by ZX, he's come full circle and become the embodiment of "protector". he responds to bravery and vent/aile wanting to protect people without a reason.

>>85107165
One time I talked to someone about the music of X6. He said the boss music was really great, you just wanted the characters to stop what they were doing and dance to it just so you wouldn't have to play the shitty game anymore

>>85100260
When i was a child with a cousin we had the headcanon that Light used Rush and the gang to improve Megman's armor turning him into Megaman X

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>>85107181
and his Ariga Manga appearanceis clearly Saburo from Kikaider.

his normal appearance also has shades of Cyborg 009

>>85086716
this

>>85107181
>>85107323

hell Megaman and Rush are basically astro boy crossed with Casshern

>>85107977
Dude X literally is just casshern. Like, I saw the previews for the Casshern remake without knowing what it was and I was like "Shit, they made a mega man x anime??"

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>>85108081

X really needed a dog

>>85089705
I will be forever salty that Legends 3 was canceled...

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>>85108373

If I had a penny for every ounce of salt I had at capcom Id be a wealthy man

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>>85101453
I never finished ZX because they replaced Model X with ZX mid-game.

>>85088082
X5 have him founding Elysium in one ending though.

It's a real shame that X and Rock never met, it's hilarious that both look so alike but the older looking one is the actually the youngest brother of the young one.

Did Light make X as a son like with his other robots or what?

Did they ever properly explain how Megaman EXE is Hub?
Like how does that even work even in a sci fi setting.

>>85107323
You mean the jacket right?
Because his hairstyle was the one that Rock received later.

>>85097466
>retcon
I thought megaman was the first free willed robot? Then Light and Wily had a falling out, then the world ended.

>>85111547
If you finish it with both characters, you can keep model X on your third playthrough
He wrecks everything

Model Hx was also cool

>>85095777
>Expecting the mad scientist who tried to take over the world a dozen times to program a "no kill" law in his greatest creation

>>85111785
Lan's dad somehow coded his entire genome into computer data, but changed a tiny bit because Lan might feel pain that it actually WAS his brother or something. The games are super vague about this - we're supposed to believe Megaman.exe and Lan feel the same pain and are almost merged with Hub.bat, then MMBN3 has the Pulse In system and Full Synchro where people can enter Cyberworld and merge with Navis.

They seem to rewrite how it works game by game. BN3 was meant to be the last one but it proved so popular they continued with more, a lot like X, so shit ends up forgotten and retconned all the time - especially since the anime doesn't even use the Hub plot and the anime was keeping them making games.

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>>85097466
>>85112055
>actually thinking the classic bots ever had free will
They literally say that X was the first in the goddamn TITLE SEQUENCE of the first X game. Were you even alive back when that came out?

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>>85112414
Reminder this is what the specs of a computer are in the year 21XX

And it still can't run Crysis 3 at max settings

>>85111785
Dr. Hikari is a God damn programming master. That's how

>>85111785
The explanation given was that somehow programming DNA into navis makes them fully sentient. So Megaman.EXE was made with Hub's DNA, just changed 0.01℅unless running HUB.BAT

>>85094470
I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU PAPER DOLLS

>>85097562
I think the idea is that the classic series robots are SENTIENT, but they don't have 100% free will because they can be given "rules" that they must follow.

I mean I'm just throwing out a guess here.

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>>85103282

>>85111774
Going by the Day of Sigma OVA that's exactly how he'd treat X if he were alive to see him activated.

>>85112806
You are correct. "Sentient" simply means "self-aware", but does not require free will. The classic bots could think and feel, but they could never grow beyond their artificial parameters. X was so revolutionary because he could actually change his mind and develop on his own.

>>85108801
Darkstalkers was never particularly alive in the US, anon. It was always incredibly niche to begin with.

>>85108801
Fuck off. Modern capcom is shit and I wouldn't want them to ruin a good series like darkstalkers similarly to SF.

>>85085163
>he just had free will so long as it followed his programmed personality
Isn't that what humans are?

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>>85103282

>>85108081
I watched one of the older Casshern OVAs recently and it is literally the plot of Megaman X, complete with Sigma.

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On the subject of robots and free will, is anyone else appalled by the events of Megaman 9?

>create humanoid robots with sentience, feelings, and a sense of self-preservation
>give them an arbitraily short built-in expiration date (that your robot son and daughter surrogates are suspiciously exempted from)
>be surprised when existential dread makes them turn rogue

I know it's implied that had Wily not gotten into their heads about the matter they'd never have taken up arms, but goddamn.

>>85088859
Lulz. Me and a buddy theorized back when we were kids that Zero had killed Mega Man, Roll, and Dr. Light while X was in his containment pod, since Zero had started out as a Maverick from the start thanks to Dr. Wily's programming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZdEZSsIZIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7dSJN5LgsE

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Reading this thread made me realize how much better the series was when it was just a light-hearted homage to Astro Boy. I mean yeah X's moral dilemmas are cool and all but that didn't really matter since the X series devolved into The Zero Sho ft. Sigma's fashion show of the week. MMX's premise and theme fall apart when compared to how mediocre the gameplay of the series was in comparison to the NES games. And then Legends is just a bunch of pointless teasing, with Legends 2 convienently ignoring the crucial information revealed in the final act of the first game. 9 and 10 were good throwbacks, even if 10 teased a bunch of stuff that never went anywhere.
The Megaman 9 secret is probably some stupid bullshit like confirming Zero killed the Classic cast

Only the Megaman classics and X1 are canon right? The plot got really dumb after Sigma became a virus.

>>85114952
Wasn't the secret a crock of shit or a kill screen?

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>>85115056
We probably won't know until Seth's on his deathbed.

>>85112245
Well the manga kept it. And are you sure about that? I would think the games themselves must have sold pretty well to last as long as it did.

Now that I think about it, does Lan even call him Hub or do they just pretend otherwise unless in dire moments?

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>>85115174
Sorry, meant to post this one.

>>85112603
So Hub and Mega Man are actually the same person right? I mean there was artwork with him having hair but I don't think that was actually shown in any game.

>>85114391
It was definitely peculiar, but then again only the Ariga Mix Manga version of Dr Light considered everyone single one of his creations to be his children, every other version just considers Blues, Rock and Roll to be his children while the 3 sets of Light Numbers to just be hired work.

Another reason while Ariga is and forever will be the best thing to happen to Classic Mega Man.

>>85101453
x2 was the best game because Zero assumed his rightful place: separated into pieces and safely tucked within the players inventory

>>85115174
I like unarmored best in terms of how he looks.

>>85098948
>VOOM
Fuck you I hear that sound in my nightmares.

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This thread is still here? WOW

>>85117748
Yeah, the fanbase is loyal.

>>85117944
not according to Capcom fuck those niggers

>>85119613
Well we know better, and Capcom paid for those lies.

>>85120208
It's obvious the fanbase isn't loyal, they'll buy any shit show with Megaman's name on it, even when it's not Megaman.

Fucking Battle Network killed the franchise and "the fans" lapped it up.

>>85120366

>Battle Network killed the franchise

Neck yourself

>>85088659
those games didn't exist yet. so no, it was a reference to X

>>85083173
Well we had to do Mega Mans I-IX first.

>>85093463
My absolute nigga

>>85120366
Battle Network 4 and X7 killed Megman together.

>>85113072
>Darkstalkers was never particularly alive in the US, anon

yeah that's why it got a cartoon

>>85122674
Heh, poor Demitri and Morrigan.

>>85121300
nah, it was just the 90's and X is and extreme letter

>>85121300
>>85122818

Dr Light probably does have a bunch of malformed Mega Mans II-IX running around hurting to live

>>85120366

Mega Man fans are the only ones I know of that will throw tantrums because they only have some hundred or so games to play.

Ive seen fans of games that where lucky to get ONE sequel with less of a chip on their shoulder

>>85083173
>Kept you waiting, huh?

huh, I just started a Mega Man marathon with the original series a couple days ago. Didn't expected to see a Mega Man thread pop up at the same time. I'm up to 8 now. Considering if I want to do a marathon of the X games to follow and if so how far do I really want to bother with them? Because I never liked the games as much after X5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACBJtPUIF3o

>>85115645
In 5 he becomes Hub after beating Nebula Grey.

Isn't it implied in one of the games that most of the original cast gets killed by Zero?

That's gotta be at least how Bass met his end.

>>85124552

No. that was a shitty webcomic

>>85115612
Calling him Hub was pretty much reserved until the final level of each game
>>85115645
Yeah, he is. Lan didn't know until the end of the first game because their dad didn't want him to shelf Megaman out of fear of losing his brother again.

>>85114952
MM10 is my favorite MM game, it was back then and still is today.
is like everything i ever wanted, and im happy with it.

MM is dead and will never go back, so, is better just look at the past and see how much fun we had.

>>85124037
So what was he before that point?

And what do you mean by he becomes Hub?

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>>85114706
>That whole post

>>85124721
So like an ultra personal moment?
Kinda weird that Lan takes everything so well.

>>85095842
that's exactly what happened.

Willy got killed by his creation which he deliberately tried to make evil (which arguably results in the reploid virus and canon/fanon is what got willy killed) while Light was scared shitless and basically set up a program that brainwashed X for years until he was found by a dude that reverse engineered him on top of continuing on X's design (armor parts).

>>85088859
X doesn't know anything. He only knows Light created him due to holograms about him he found

Light and Willy's struggle wasn't but a note in history.

>>85099395
I love X6, excellent atmosphere, excellent intro music and video, excellent graphics[/spoiler[ design

>>85099625
do not fist robot girls

>>85125194
Actually, the program wasn't brainwashing X- it was to keep X from getting out EVER if he didn't come out a nice guy like Light wanted.

And Light was still scared shitless because X could have turned evil by hi own will once out anyway.

Personal headcanon is that Wily did program Zero's capsule to open only after X's was, so Zero could kill X in a fight and show the world WILY, not Light, is the greatest robot-maker EVER!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!

>>85125755
>Actually, the program wasn't brainwashing X- it was to keep X from getting out EVER if he didn't come out a nice guy like Light wanted.

That's not better

>>85126177
I agree: Light wanted a Free Will bot, but wasn't going to let him out if he didn't reflect his own morals.

My personal headcanon is this:

Wily nabs another set of Dr. Light's robots, only this time he then experiments on them and improves/modifies them, making them do more damage, resist Mega Man's normal buster, etc.

Mega Man tries to stop them, gets thrashed and barely gets saved by Proto Man, who knows he is running out of energy and wants to stop Wily.

Light - old and starting to show signs of illness - repairs Mega Man and gives him upgrades to fight Wily's robots (ie., X's dash legs and X Buster), implied that this tech was harvested from Rush, who died defending Light and Roll when Wily sent bots to thrash Light's workshop.

As Mega Man starts thrashing the other robots and getting their weapon skills, we get cutscenes of Wily working on a robot of his own, hints showing it to be Zero.

Mega Man gets to Wily's Castle, fights his way to the top, and find out that Wily has, in fact, died of old age, and the thing that was working on Zero was a Wily-Bot, fulfilling it's programming to build "the perfect killing machine to destroy everything Dr. Light ever made."

Queue final boss fight of Mega Man vs. Zero.

Mega "wins" in the sense that he is able to damage/stall Zero, but refuses to kill Zero (and defying Light's order to do so in the process), saying that, "there's something in my programming... I think... *I* think."

Proto Man shows up, forcing Mega Man to retreat to Light, saying that he will deal with Zero. He doesn't, but succeeds in re-sealing Zero in his capsule before dying via running out of power.

Mega Man goes back to Light, who realizes that Mega's programming is starting to change/evolve, giving him actual AI and free will. Knowing how dangerous this could be, he seals Mega Man into the capsule to run decades of morality and ethics quizzes/tests, but has to wipe his memories/data of his time as Mega Man, as Roll helps him as best she can.

Roll "dies" after Light passes from old age by running out of power.

>>85114952
The megaman 9 secret was just a fluff, something to get attention for the game, the guy who said it was just trolling

>>85083173
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>>85126259

You'd think basic good upbringing would be enough to raise him right and instill good morals. You know sort of like Superman. It's pretty clear that Light was around a good bit after X was made but he shoved him in the tank almost immediately

>>85129747
He was probably old by the time he made X, so he turned the capsule check system into a surrogate parent of sort.

>>85129934

based on the capsules though he wasn't really all that older than normal Megaman. It can't have been more than a few more years after normal and if robot technology is as far as it is medical technology must be far along too.

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>>85122976
In all honesty I would just like damn Capcom to give closure to the games like they did with the Zero, BN and SF series (to a degree that last one). Just let the stories of ZX and Legends end properly god damn. As much as I love Classic, I don't want them to go for a Mega Man 11 instead.

>>85129747
The capsule system shows awareness of things that are actually happening. Light's image isn't a recording, it's an AI.

>>85130080
Yeah, as far as gameplay goes, I'd be fine with Mighty No. 9 2 not sucking. If MN9 was as good as mega man it would be a lot easier to accept mega man being dead and buried.

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How would X and Zero turn out if they were part of the Big 2?

>>85130080
>and Legends

Tron and Roll build a rocket and rescue Megaman. Exactly like they said they're gonna.

There, that's your closure. The characters do the thing they set themselves up too.

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>>85121276
>those games didn't exist yet
Nigga what? Are you retarded? The tapestry in Megaman Legends was a prophecy of the final battle with Juno at the end of Megaman Legends. It's there to foreshadow what's going to happen.

Unless you're talking about the flood, in which case ZXA was released years after Megaman Legends and was clearly alluding at the world covered in water.

>>85130339
Legends' case is more about how they teased Legends 3 just for Inafune to fuck everything and leading to it's cancellation I guess.

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>>85130413
Like how the fuck do you look at this picture and get "X fighting Sigma."

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>>85130742
Those don't look anything alike. You're looking at a tapestry of a man in blue armor, fighting something that looks exactly like Megaman Juno, a specific character, in front of the Final Gate, while pic releated hangs from the sky, and you're getting that from it. Are you being stupid on purpose?

>>85130947


I didn't say it looked exactly alike but there's plenty of room for centuries old artists representation. Mega man doesn't use a fucking bow either.

It's a blue guy fighting a giant man

>>85098948
I chuckled

as bad as the zero wank was zero was still cooler than Axl.

who thought that fuck was a good idea

>>85083173
The contrast between the lighter Mega Man characters and the X characters was good. Probably the only episode of this show I liked. But man did I hate this show, hated it more than the Super Mario Bros. Super Show because of how loose it was when it came to following the original games. I was also an autistic little faggot.

there's so much I don't understand about reploids

who's making them? Do they come out of an assembly line?

Who decides between animal and human type? Whose choice is it that you might end up as some lame dude or a fucking bear?