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How long do you give them till they fade into obscurity?

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How long do you give them till they fade into obscurity?
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Seeing who their creators are, never.
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>>85026044
Hopefully soon. Just get rid of kamala, the waifufag shit is cancerous as all hell.
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>>85026059
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>>85026044
Kamala and Miles are too popular, and all three of them have higher ups and popular writers who will make sure they never fade into obscurity.
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>>85026125
Thought the same of Ben.
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>>85026044
>kamala
Here to stay
>miles
til bendis stops breathing
>nova
Does anyone really give a crap about him?
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>>85026125
Miles isn't popular he's just being pushed to the moon
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>>85026180
>til bendis stops breathing

Heart attack when?
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>>85026186
How do you 'push' a comic book character?
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>>85026044
5 years.

Just like Runaways.
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>>85026044
Miles will live as long as Bendis does.
Kamala will last like, 7-8 more years.
I'll be genuinely surprised if Sam makes it out of the next 2 years.
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>>85026204
By putting them in comic books.
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>>85026153
Ben...? Reilly?
>>85026180
>>nova
>Does anyone really give a crap about him?
Seeing how comics are all about cronyism, you just know there's some writer anxious to make a sold to Jeph.
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>>85026204
Push them into everything as much as possible.
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>>85026186
>Miles isn't popular
When will this meme end?
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>>85026233
Yeah.
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Marvel kinda' needs these three more than ever right now. Their bullshit excuse for not using the X-Men means they're getting rid of a lot of prominent teen heroes, and no matter how much /co/ likes to bitch about it, teenagers do in fact still read comics.
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why Kamala is so popular?
some SJW bullshit or it is an actual well developed character?
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>>85026253
He isn't though.
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>>85026239
He's in two books.
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>>85026044
Not soon enough, they represent every that is wrong with a corrupt, disgusting industry and is many disrespectful practices
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>>85026286
>actual well developed character?

That one. Sam is decent at the very most. Miles is just fluff.
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>>85026308
wew lad
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>>85026204
shove them into a bunch of stuff, bring them along from other universes that were slowly ruined

I dont understand the interest in Kamala whatsoever
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>>85026286
Disgusting waifufags, they will buy anything with a cute enough lead, no matter how fucking shit it is
How do you think Neptunia and the VITA still gets sales? Its not from fucking quality and writing I can tell you that much
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>>85026267
That just makes me hate it more. Just give us the damn X-Men back.
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>>85026295
He sells more than Sam and Kamala.
The only Spider-Books outselling his are Peter's.
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>>85026298
Now consider all the crossovers recently.
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>>85026286
She's an entertaining character and her book is good.
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>>85026376
I'll take "Shit people say to justify their waifufaggotry" for 500 Alex
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>>85026347
I'm pretty sure Spider/Deadpool and Spider-Gwen are out selling him.
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>>85026396
>didn't phrase the answer in the form of a question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUZijEuNDQ
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10 years. Bendis freely admits he never had an idea with what to do with Miles so unless someone REALLY knocks it out of the park with Bla- excuse me 'biracial' peter parker he'll be forgotten once this diversity fad is over.

Kamala was an attempt at making a popular character. Surprisingly they did that by giving her a decent story and artists. Eventually she won't be stylish any more and marvel will want to push something else.

No one really cares about Sam. Once they stop pushing him he'll fade into obscurity unless they REALLY start pushing cosmic marvel.
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>>85026044
Never, all three of them are examples of new characters done right. There are plenty of examples of new characters done wrong but these three are stuff for good.

I am the least interested in Sam. But seeing as Dick is coming back and will be a mentor for him i think I'm going to stsrt reading a Sam book
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>>85026044
Sam first, Miles second, Kamala will probably stick around the most.
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>>85026366
Let's consider them
>Nova
He sells more than Nova
>Ms. Marvel
Sells more than her too
>Chulk
Also sells more than him
>Spider-Gwen
Again he sells more than her
>Gwenpool
See above
>Peter
The only Spider that outsells him
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>>85026180
I actually see Miles out lasting the bunch

Kamala is generally shit when Wilson isn't writing her
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>>85026217
Huh that's almost exactly the amount of time people go through Secondary School. Weird...
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>>85026438
Spider-Man/Deadpool is a Peter book, he sells more than Spider-Gwen.
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>>85026468
>Bendis freely admits he never had an idea with what to do with Miles
Wait, really?
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>>85026347
I'm pretty sure Miles book outsold Kamala and Sam's books combined last month
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Kamala will live on in my heart forever, assuming someone else doesn't pick up her series and crash it into the ground.
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>>85026339
Have you read her book? It's good. Maybe it's not for you but it's a well written book. A lot of character development
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>>85026489
Because Spider-Man is a popular brand. It sells on the name alone
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>>85026366
>recently
So, five years after his introduction of a character?

He's cameo'd in maybe 6 or 7 non-event books, each of which sell less than his, and most of which he doesn't appear on the cover, half of which he isn't in for more than 2 pages.
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>>85026555
Yeah yeah I'm sure she will, until the next waifu comes around and you'll magically forget she ever existed, I seen and heard it all fucking before.
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>>85026555
>assuming someone else doesn't pick up her series and crash it into the ground.
Kamala already has an omnibus coming out in a couple of months.
The end is nigh.
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>>85026566
Do you actually think comic buyers are that retarded?
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>>85026639
Yes.
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>>85026566
What's Miguel's excuse?
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>>85026044
>Kamala
Not sure
>Miles
When Bendis quits for Marvel
>Sam
Next year
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>>85026532
He was asked why he stopped writing Miles in Ultimate. He responded with 'I couldn't think of anything to do with him' basically he shat out a boring black, excuse me black-puerto rican kid who doesn't seem to speak a lick of spanish making his biracial status an informed trait, who has mutant abilities that give him spider powers and an 'I win' button.

He wanted to make black spiderman. He made black spiderman.

His thought process stopped there.

Makes that whole 'I don't want to be black spiderman I want to be spiderman' thing kind of funny in retrospect.
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>>85026044
Kamala is here to stay.

Nova is going to get replaced the moment Dick Rider shows up in a movie. They're already bringing him back.

Miles is an odd case. There have been other Spideys before but the fact that he's a minority and the SJW scene is obsessed with pop culture right now (aka comics & movies), means there's a lens on Marvel to keep him around. That said, he'll never replace Peter Parker, so he'll disappear eventually. I'd say 5-6 years before he dies in some shitty event or unceremoniously retires in a "back to basics" move for the Spidey comics where Peter is broke again and never even had a company and everyone hates him ala BND.
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>>85026660
Miguel was the only spiderman title in the original 2099 line that sold consistently. Honestly them cancelling it back in it's heydey was retarded.
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>>85026639
Do you think they aren't?
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>>85026660
His book is called Spider-Man 2099. Miles is literally called Spider-Man. Change it back to Ultimate Spider-Man and watch the sales drop.
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>>85026639
They buy fucking comicbooks
That alone should net them a retard helmet bolted to their skulls
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>>85026660
His is Spider-Man 2099. Miles' book is just Spider-Man. Also Miguel is the only remnant of an almost 20 year old title, that's proof enough thenergy Spider-Man name is all you need
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>>85026746
So you think ~20,000 people are getting 'tricked' every month into reading a Spider-Man book starring a kid with a completely different costume, appearance, and cast because the title lacks an adjective?
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>>85026044
Kamala is the most popular, but Miles is Hispanic and Sam is Latino. As long as Alonso is in charge they're not going anywhere.
But yeah, Sam would be the first to go since Bendis loves shoving his OC's in his other books.
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>>85026827
You have way too much faith in the average comic reader.
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>>85026677
And then Bendis got a reward from the CIA for maknig a black Spider-Man.
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>>85026286

As a registered Republican, I actually like Kamala as a character. As long as Marvel doesn't use her to peddle leftist agenda, and just make her stay cute, I'm all for 'diverse' characters such as her.
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Miles only stays because he's a Spider-Book, which is essentially free money for Marvel.

Kamala will get a few more years at best and then get ditched once the next fad-character rolls around.

Sam's days are numbered now that fan-favorite Richard Rider is coming back.
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>>85026853
Sam has been in 2 different team books and in nearly every event since his introduction.
He's been shoved in a lot more stuff than Miles.
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>>85026827
Again
COMICBOOK READER
They read overpriced penny dreadfuls, that actively insult them, made by people who go out of their way to disrespect the people who GIVE THEM MONEY, FOR PUBLICITY
If stupidity was an executionable offense, comicbook fans would be on the list of undesirables fairly high up.
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>>85026286
>why Kamala is so popular?
Waifu cancer. That's literally it.
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>>85026746
>>85026770
But Miles' still sold pretty well when he was Ultimate Spider-Man, he was still doing better than Kamala even then.
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>>85026950

I'll take waifufaggotry any day than all the 'thought provoking and progressive' trash that modern day creatives are spewing at us these days. The former is at least unapologetic about it, while the latter deludes themselves that their ideology is the only correct one.
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Miles is like the Robin of Spider-Man now. He's here to stay. Kamala really depends on if they ever give her an identity of her own rather than the legacy of a glorified C-lister and whether she makes it into the MCU before it collapses. Sam's gonna vanish pretty quickly.
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>>85026125
People say that, but people change.
Remember when we thought StarGirl was going to be around forever because she's literally Geoff Johns' deceased kid sister?
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>>85026345
The xmen are garbage and they should stay dead.
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>>85026856
You have too much faith in the size of comic book readers. There's not enough people that read comics in the world to have a revolving door of people 'gotcha'd by name change.
Even people that mistakenly put it on a pull-list would quickly rectify that $5 mistake by the time they got their next stack.

Obviously the name change boosted sales, as did appearing in Secret Wars and no longer being sequestered to his own universe where even then he sold ~33,000 a month while Kaine crashed and burned. To imply it's one thing over everything else is retarded.
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>>85026555
its good to see muslims taking a stand and defending their homes instead of running to another country, well played marvel.
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>>85026992
>I'll take boiling bubbling piss over red hot shit
Both are unacceptable, and neither should be allowed
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>>85027014
Go away Bastion.
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>>85026044
Kamala is hard to say. On one hand, she's Muslim. There's not a lot of popular Muslim capes (no one cares about Dust or Muslim Captain Britain). So even if her book tanks in sales and quality, they may keep he around for diversity sake as the definitive Muslim cape.

Miles is Black Spider-Man. He was created and marketed as Black Spider-Man. They can't get rid of him because racism until they have a suitable replacement Black Spider-Man.

Nova. No one cares about him. But people at Marvel seem to care about him (for some reason). And there aren't many Nova Corp members left. So he has a chance of staying.
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>>85027001
>Robin
Robin is a combination self-insert and POV character for the audience so batman can explain his insights as a detective. Peter has an entirely different dynamic.

Once the diversity fad is over he'll be forgotten. He really doesn't have anything to offer as a character that peter doesn't except being black and a mutant. Oh and technically hispanic even though he doesn't seem to speak a lick of espanol.
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>>85027150
I think Marvel should go back to Rich being the Lone Ranger in space rather than rebuilding the Corps.
Still, Richard's return spells the end for Sam.
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>>85027162
>diversity fad
kek
Enjoy the new demographics of comic book fandom. Deal with it.
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>>85027162
>Oh and technically hispanic even though he doesn't seem to speak a lick of espanol.
Do you have to speak Spanish to count as Hispanic?
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>>85027297
>Enjoy the new gemographics
...people? Wow, so the humans are finally getting into the comic books?
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>>85026204
1.pick an establish character
2.remove old version or make a legacy character riding their coattails, or just say fuck it and have two heroes with the same fucking name.
3. make the new character a minority. a popular choice is white woman.
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Miles will replace Peter.
Kamala is muslim, so she's safe for about 20 years.
Sam is getting replaced in 2 to 5 years.
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>>85026044
Sam is the only one I like out of that bunch though.
He's like Marvels Jaime, a Good character who happens to come after a great character, and unlike Jaime I swear to fuck I want to strangle the guy that wrote the New52 Blue Beetle run he hasn't been ruined by a shitty universe rest yet.
I want him to have a long run, but I know he won't.
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>>85026639
>Do you actually think comic buyers are that retarded?

Where do you think you are?
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>>85027297
>Cosplayers
>ever buying comics
They get their enjoyment through making costumes they don't need to read the material
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>>85026044

I would bet anything that Kamala will have a cameo in the Captain Marvel movie so not for another couple of decades.
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>>85027428
>Miles will replace Peter.
And this is how race war starts.
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>>85026286
a bit of both+waifucancer
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>>85026267
>Their bullshit excuse for not using the X-Men

What is it?
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>>85027428
>Sam is getting replaced in 2 to 5 years.
Richard will be back in November. Sam will be gone much sooner than that
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Kamala, when the writer changes and some less talented politicaly minded moron fucks it all to hell. I'm betting on a gail simone "the movment" type of crash, rather than a frank miller type.

Sam, when the retcon machine brings back Dick Rider.

>>85026204
Get on talk shows, fire up the PR machine. Felate the comics press. Put them in valuable crossovers and world events.

>>85026286
There's SJWs involved, but it's relatively mild, and the book is not bullshit.
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>>85027297
>new

"People of color" have been reading comics forever and there's always been a steady flow of new minority characters, Marvel's diversity media blitz is the fad.
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>>85027704
There is a page where protesters outside of Avengers mansion are demanding that they add more POCs. Insideal the Avengers were discussing how it'd be racist to add new people just because of their race and we're hiring on merit. How times have changed
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>>85027605
>relatively mild
She worships a marauding pedophile warlord.
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>>85026044
as soon as their creators give up the characters solo book just like Nova
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Would Miles sell this well if Bendis' name wasn't on his comic?
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>>85027434

Same here.
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>>85027605
>Sam, when the retcon machine brings back Dick Rider.
Happening next relaunch.
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>>85028301
So, is it going to be Dick with Sam as his sidekick?
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>>85027021
I think people just mindlessly decide they're buying Spider-Man and just keep doing it regardless of how much they actually like it.
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>>85028357
It seems that way since Rich is going to be the protagonist of the comic.
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>>85028269
Fuck no.
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>>85027337
If you're obviously black and a fictional character, yeah. Hispanics are spanish speaking ethnicities.

Spaniards are hispanic.
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>>85026044
They are just this decade's popular characters. They always come and go with the times.

>70's had Mar-Vel, Richard Nova, Blade,
>80's had Dazzler, Cloak and Dagger, Booster and Ted Kord, New Mutants,
>90's had Wally Flash, Kyle GL, Sleepwalker, Darkhawk, Gambit, Cable's X-force, Kon El,
>00's had Static Shock, Icon, Young Justice, Young Avengers, Dark Avengers, Justice Society, Justice Society Unlimited,

Typically those decade flavor of the month characters are killed off or just ignored and forgotten. Only to appear once or twice in a team up or ensemble. Occasionally one will stick around later on like Nova, Kyle, Cable etc. I imagine Kamala has the best chance of appearing in the next decade.

Thing is, almost of all of these guys were pretty popular in their day. But they still vanished after a while for the oh so sacred Silver Age superiority.
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>>85027337
Of course, otherwise you'll be considered a dirty chicano.
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>>85028565
Was Dazzler popular or Shooter pushed her hard like Pixie was few years back?
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Some time between now and the end of the universe assuming Bendis isn't still on team
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>>85028662
She was pretty big in the 80's

Had a successful solo and appeared as a guest in almost everything for a couple years.
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>>85028565
>Cable
Man I like Cable but that motherfucker is a goddamn literary FOSSIL. The Dark Age of comic books with all it's flaws and gems preserved in conceptual amber.

>Poorly designed 'cyborg' arm
>that's actually a techno-organic virus that's slowly killing him
>child of two popular characters of the period. Only aged up from the future.
>Oh hey and the complex timeline shenanigans
>He remember the X-men? they used to be pretty goddamn popular.
>who the fuck are the inhumans? Blackagar Boltagon? That's retarded who the fuck would buy a book with a character like that in it,
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>>85028753
Cable was fucking gigantic in the 90's. He was the epitome of the gun wielding ammo pouch "badass" type that had to be in every crossover and big event.

And now he's......around...at times
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>>85028565
You pulled this out of your ass.
Blade was a largely forgotten horror character till the 90's movie.
Static was 90s. Icon was never popular.
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>>85028805
Deadpool 2 will definitely bring that back.
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>>85027428
>Miles will replace Peter
>this is what Bendis thinks

They already replaced a Peter with Miles. His book started selling well at first because #1 and controversy and then his book started to plunge.

They ain't going to replace ASM Peter with Miles no matter how much Bendis wants it. ASM Peter sells way more and Slott won't let Bendis kill him (hell, Slott stood up to Bendis when Benis wanted to kill off Peter for shockvalue in Civil War 2). It ain't gonna happen.
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>>85026227
>>85026180
>>85026468
>>85026475
>>85026670
>>85026708
>>85027150
>>85027428
>>85027605

General Consensus:
>Kamala
Here the longest
>Miles
Here as long as Bendis is
>Stan
Left his name mispelled on purpose because I'm already forgetting him. Here until the glorious return of Dick Rider
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>>85026044
Kamalas cool I hope she stays but fuck the other two
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>>85026204
Look to Spider Gwen.
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My problem with Miles is that he's a really fucking bland character. His only characteristic feature is that he's Black spider-man, such a bore.
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>>85029953
Scott seems more protective of his work rather than the character. He complained to Alonso when one of the Spider-Verse tie-ins implied it was in a universe outside the actual MC2 universe.
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>>85030412
What's Peter's defining characteristic? Being a nerd? That was a thing before Pete existed, as was quipping.
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>>85026044
Miles is hard to tell. Nova will stick around until he gets killed off because you don't have to ultra popular to survive on the cosmic side. Kamala is pure shit out of willow's hands, and will likely get ruined by events and writer changes. She will either fall into obscurity until people waifuing her right now become writers and slap her into their work just like Kitty pryde.
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>>85026074
u mad?
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>>85030492
Yes, the loser bit, the quipping, his terrible luck and overly sense of responsibility and self loathing.

But anyway, read my post again, you moronic baboon, nobody was talking about originality. The point that Miles is incredibly shallow stands.
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>>85030525
Yeah, I think Kamala might be in trouble once Wilson stops writing her. It's clear that she puts a lot of her personality into the comic, and that's one of the things that makes it so good. Kamala could easily be written into irrelevancy like Tim Drake was under an uninspired writer.
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>>85030525
>cosmic side
Oh, you mean the Guardians of the Earth?
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Sam. 3-5 years
Kamala. 5 years after cancellation whenever that is.
Miles. 10 years after cancellation
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I can't wait for them to star in the next Avengers Arena,
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>>85028216
Now now, I'm sure Carol doesn't act on her child-lust.
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>>85028216
Ah, but she doesn't actually murder people who make fanfic of said warlord.

>>85027337
Acording to the fuckers who count such things, yes. See also: Trayvon vs Zimmerman.


>>85030250
If Kamala can survive her post willow life, I could see her becoming the new Captain Marvel, and dumping Carol instead.
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>>85031054
>If Kamala can survive her post willow life, I could see her becoming the new Captain Marvel, and dumping Carol instead
That would be great. I say Carol's last chance will be the Cap. Marvel movie, if that fails to establish her as an A-list character Marvel might want to look at other candidates to fill the role of "Marvel's Wonder Woman".
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miles won't fade he will stay and kill peter
he will finish what the clones could not
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>>85026044
As soon as the SJW craze dies, Kamala is going with it. Miles might stick around for a while, hovering in the periphery like all the discarded spider-spinoffs before him. Sam is dead as soon as his dad quits.
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>>85031307
You're just mad Kamala is popular in /co/. The first victim of the SJW bubble bursting will be Miles.
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>>85030250
Richardfags...
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>>85031366
>The first victim of the SJW bubble bursting will be Miles
That's a ridiculous thing to say.
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>>85027428
>Miles replacing Peter.

That's financial suicide.
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>>85031562
Au contraire, anonymous, quite the opposite, in fact, they'll be making mountains of money, for comic book standards of course, once they release the Amazing Spider-Man #1 featuring the return of Peter Parker from the dead.
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TFW you actually like Miles and Sam and Kamala doesn't appeal to you because you're not a 15 year old SJW tumblr whale or a waifaggot with a hardon for little girls.
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>>85031368
There's nothing wrong with hating bad characters.
Everyone knows the end is rapidly approaching for Sam.
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>>85026044

Kamala is pretty much established....I don't think anybody really hates her.

Miles is hit or miss, but Ms. Marvel is probably the best new character Marvel has made in a long time
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>>85032468
Can you word that in a way that people who aren't retarded can understand?
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>>85032680
Agreed, though I wouldn't mind Carol returning to her role as Ms. Marvel. God knows she sucks as Captain Marvel.
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>>85033520
Why do you have to be a prick? You understood perfectly what the post was saying.
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>>85033668
I honestly didn't, I was lost at

>you actually like Miles and Sam and Kamala doesn't appeal to you

Punctuation is important.
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Miles isn't replacing anyone. He will be the Dick Grayson to Pete's Bruce. He' also gonna fuck most of the females in the Marvel Universe
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>>85034020
>He will be the Dick Grayson to Pete's Bruce.

kek. I give him 5 years before he's forgotten. A Dick/Bruce dynamic wouldn't work for Peter at all. Especially when he doesn't foil off his sidekick.
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Remember when Gambit was in everything? And look him now. That's where they're going to end up.
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Friendly reminder that Nova is a cosmic tier superhero who could easily out-class like half of the superheroes in the absurd civil war. He's too many leagues above Miles to care if he gets to fuck Kamala or not. He'll be fucking cosmic pussy with Richard by the time he turns 16.
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>>85034260
>That trench coat.

I miss when this was a cliche.
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>>85034270
He'd still get butt fucked by Blue Marvel and Monica though.
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>>85034270
>He's too many leagues above Miles to care if he gets to fuck Kamala or not
He clearly cares though, why are Samfags so delusional?
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>>85026044
I don't see a future where Marvel isn't devoting major marketing to them coming any time soon and that's all it takes to keep them relevant.
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>>85034314
They genuinely think he has a future after Richard comes back.
Shipping him with Kamala is nowhere near how delusional these guys get.
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>>85026677
>who doesn't seem to speak a lick of spanish making his biracial status an informed trait
Why would the language you speak have any bearing on your race?
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>>85030492
A need to repent for his failure.
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>>85026044
The real question is which of those two are going to be the 1st to fuck Kamala?
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>>85034639
Miles.
Kamala hates Sam, and he'll be gone before she ever likes him
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>>85034694
why does she hate him
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>>85034694
it's more of a love/hate relationship then pure hate.
if anything they'd probably stick sam/ms marvel together just so he won't fade into oblivion.
miles has plenty of other girls to get with
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>>85034806
I read ANAD #1 and never figured out why, but she was really hostile towards him.
I've seen a few pages, and that just hasn't changed.
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>>85034837
I don't think that pairing will save him from the obscure void he's headed towards.
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>>85030492
Self destructive journey of redemption. He's fighting a war he knows he'll never win. At the end of the day Peter is suppose to make you think whether it's really right to use your power responsibility if it risks the lives of your loved ones and the your well being.
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>>85034846
maybe he made a muslim joke in bad taste
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>>85034837
I doubt enough people at Marvel care enough about Sam to do that, especially since more of them push Miles and Kamala than Sam and Kamala.
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>>85026044
Kamala is here until they fix both carol and peter and at least a decade after.
I give sam 2 years max (a shame i like the kid)
Miles im not so sure all i know is he will be killed off
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>>85034806
Bad first impression. From what I recall, Sam tore up a good chunk of Jersey going after a giant monster and Kamala did not appreciate his lack of consideration for the damage.
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>>85035110
how much of jersey
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>>85035109
>Peter calls Miles for help fighting some major terrorist organization due to Parker Industries.

>Miles dies.

>Peter blames himself and company.

>Gives it to Anna Maria who resurrects Otto

I'm down.
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>>85035109
>he will be killed off
Why?
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>>85026044
Actually, I could see Marvel using these guys in the comics as a springboard for Phase 8 or 9 of the Cinematics. RDJ isn't going to stay respectably charming forever, and eventually one of the Chris guys will want to stop doing crunches and eat a bagel. When the adults start leaving the movies, Marvel will bring in the next generation, with the youth rising up to take the torch from their elders.

Torch Passing in comics, made manifest by the coupling of actual time to the existing heroes.
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>>85026286
Both, but most of all it was just a genuinely good book with a charming story sticking to the basics that actually work, and beautiful art. The SJW stuff didn't hurt either, but that was really just what gave publicity to an objectively really nice new ongoing.
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>>85035920
There's no way in hell the MCU will ever kill of Peter
Carol, I'm not sure.
I doubt Richard will ever be in the MCU.
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>>85026286
Its more that its not sjw crap she was hyped up as such so our expectations were low then she came out and she was really good.
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>>85036220
Nononono... they won't kill Peter.
But eventually, a decade or so from now, Tom Holland will be like, "Yo, hey, Thanks for these last 13 movies, but i've got kids now and i'd like to spend some time with them..."
And marvel will be like "Yeah, cool. One more flick? we need to do a torch pass"
And Tom will be like "Yeah, cool. I won't die or anything, right?"
And Marvel will be like "Nah, we'll hook your character up with (insert Bitch what loveth Spider-Man here) and he can retire to have kids. You'll drop in every now and then as a supporting actor"
and Tom will be like "Cool."
And so the movie: "Ultimate Spider-man" gets made. Pete goes home to be a family man, Enter Miles as some promising young half-african half-latino child star.
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>>85035753
So they can get rid of him quickly and decisively
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>>85036876
>implying Bendis would let that happen
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>>85036876
>>85035109
Why would they even want to kill Miles?
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>>85037589
They don't, it's just wishful thinking from a minority on 4chan
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>>85035920
>Implying they wont just replace the actors.
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>>85033559
The only important things Carol ever did as Ms. Marvel was get raped by her own kid and get power-drained by Rogue. Kamala has already done more with the name in two years than Carol did in over 20.
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>>85036497
The MCU fad will by long dead by then.
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>>85039932
Like what?
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>>85031366
Nah, Kamala is a legit SJW mouthpiece. She's got a full page where she just spews copypasted whining from tweens on twitter about Brexit, for fuck's sake. And nobody but nobody cares about the Miss Marvel """franchise."""

Miles has SpiderBuxx backing him. You can expect him to linger.
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>>85040303
>nobody cares about the Miss Marvel """franchise."""
lol whut? she's been consistently praised and popular since she was released
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>>85040343
They love Kamala, not Miss Marvel. Her stuff sells on the Kamala brand, not the Miss Marvel brand. Nobody is buying her books because they were big fans of Carol.
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>>85037589
To boost his numbers, show said numbers to execs, passing them off as his normal numbers, and then reveal that it was a doombot because Doom needed help from Miles as he took down the celestials
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>>85040078
For starters, getting people to actually give a shit about her existence.
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>>85040303
>She's got a full page where she just spews copypasted whining from tweens on twitter about Brexit

Post this shit, I've got to see it.
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>>85040367
Ah yeah, ok I see what you're saying.
That makes sense
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>>85040412
Reed's run sold a lot better than Kamala's runs have.
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>>85040428
She's basically Peter Parker 2.0 done right. The primary focus on the Spider-Man books (Or at least the only good ones) have been Peter's life and how damaging his life as a crime fighter is to that. The same thing goes for Kamala, she's not generic

>Hero X but is now Y.

She's treated like her own creation.
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>>85040367
The miss marvel brand was selling better before Kamala.
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>>85040367
Carol just had her popularity killed by KSD and the captain marvel rebranding, and Kamala at least starting out would still have been relying on the legacy name.
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>>85026217
Aww yea, I remember The Runaways. I really liked them. Your point has been made.
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>>85040543
Shame that creation is garbage, but yeah it's at least not completely hamfisted.
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>>85040416
I'm pretty sure this is bullshit, I've been reading her book and don't recall this. Maybe it's in Waid's Avengers which does sound like Waid being the cuck he is.
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>>85026044
Ms Marvel has legs, she'll always stick around in some capacity, I think.

Miles has some big names backing him, so he might stand the test of time as well...at the very least he'll drop down to Venom (pre-Flash) level, always kind of being around and occasionally getting books.

I give Sam a few years before he's killed off or forgotten.
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>>85040303
If shes a mouthpiece for anything its teenagers.
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>>85026044
These guys are marvels "DC legacy" characters. They'll be around forever. Just like how Wally, Kyle, and Dick are always gonna show up no matter how much everyone hates them in editorial.

Took Marvel awhile to fucking get any
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>>85040543
I teally do hope her taking peters old niche means he can get his marriage back and keep his money
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>>85042067
*i really do
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>>85042067
>and keep his money

Please no. CEO Peter is the worse. He's more immature now than he ever was.
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>>85026044

Whenever social justice stops being a fad. So hopefully after we elect Trump and he shuts their shit down somehow.
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>>85042103
But its the logical progression for the character hes to smart to stay poor
Still at the very least if kamala takes the teen role parker will be allowed to grow up and be married.

Knowing marvel they will fuck it up and have him marry the wrong girl though.
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>>85042225
They should just forever pair him off with Silk
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Poor kids are going to be fodder in some big event 5 years down the road.
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>>85042296
Avengers Arena II
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>>85042342
Only if there's another big deadly game series.
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>>85042033
Same difference anymore.
>OLD PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEAD
>WHAT THE FUCK IS """EXPERIENCE"""
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