Suicide Squad

>>84997468
>What are your thoughts, /co/?
I've not seen it yet.

>>84997468
>Overall, it's shaping up to be as divisive as Man of Steel and Batman V Superman.
So, people are too stupid to understand it? :^)

>>84997468
The Leto thing is to be expected because plebs think Heath's Joker is how Joker is suppose to act even though it was nothing like comics Joker.

>>84997545
I'm sure DCucks will use that excuse for this one too, yes.

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My prediction:

RT: 50% - 70%
BO: US$ 700mi - US$ 800mi

Pros:
Waller, Harley, Slipknot, better than Batman vs Superman

Cons:
Joker, Deadshot, not enough Katana and Boomerang, cheesy writing

Meanwhile, there still remains nothing worth remembering from "The Incredible Hulk".

>>84997619
>Slipknot
Stealth Oscar for Supporting Role.

>>84997651
Random tangent you went for there, bro.

You salty or something?

>>84997619
I think it will do between the 500-600ml range. I may be underestimating the "Hot Topic" audience, tho. RT...yeah, seems about right.

>Pros
Waller seems pretty nice, Harley it's all about how well she's written or she will come off as grating, Slipknot is obviously the film's secret co-star.

>Cons
I am not sold on Leto's joker. I mean he's not a bad actor, but I'm not feeling his voice at all. Looks like he's trying too hard: I fear Lex v2. Hope the movie proves otherwise, though.
Deadshot...will smith plays will smith. Neutral on that, he's tolerable. Katana and boomerang? The writing? No opinion. Even assuming the leaks are true, I can't judge off that.

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>>84997592
Right, and being a juggalo fits Joker better.
Heath was basically Golden Age Joker, and acted better than what we've seen of MOM'S.

I still have tickets for opening evening, I don't give a fuck.

>what I'm looking forward to
Waller
Boomer
Diablo
Katana
Croc
Spooky magical shit with Enchantress and everything

>things I'm still iffy on
Harley and Joker

>things I'm really not looking forward to
Will Smith as Deadshot

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>>84997468
>Overall, it's shaping up to be as divisive as Man of Steel and Batman V Superman
Great, another movie where I'm going to be the only one I know who likes it.

>>84997619
>RT: 50% - 70%
It's going to get a 50% RT at absolute best. It'll probably end up around 40% since now the general public is going to hate DC thanks to BvS.

>>85000545
BvS is unironically my 3rd favorite capeshit movie and I thought Eisenberg gave a great performance. How's that for unpopular?

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>>85000477
Seeing it the day of.
>Excited tier
Boomer
KATAAANA and memes that come with her
Enchantress's witch outfit from the SDCC trailer
CIA references
Joker, to see if he's good or bad
Batman
Flash
>Neutral Tier
Diablo
Waller
Croc
>Worried about tier
Flagg
Deadshot

>>84997468
I'm pretty sure it'll have a strong opening in America; T-Mobile is offering free tickets to go see it to all of its customers, and I'm pretty sure people will be more willing to watch it when it's basically free.

>>84997468

What will you do, /co/, when Will Smith says "HOL UP... you sayin' this is sum kinna SUICIDE squad?"

>>85000323
did he pull a huge boner?

/r/ing gifs of Margot's butt jiggle

>early reaction on twitter

Not a very good source
also i checked "suicide squad" and #suicidesquad

i didn't see any reviews except some random dude saying it was good.

>>85001706
I should totally go see this in a black theater

>Twitter
Getting desperate aren't we

>>84997545

That's really the excuse? It's not having pa kent commit suicide and just sucking the joy out of Superman or the way bungled editing and hamfisted shoveling of unrelated crap that didn't work together, just like in Green Lantern, so why the fuck didn't those fucks learn?

>>84997468
>pacing and ton being criticized
>Leto's performance seems to have people split
So it's BvS, with Joker a repeat of Luthor?

>>85000323
Oh so NOW we admit that Heath was a good Joker, funny because for years all I saw posted here was "lol Heath was tarraballl , dey only like him cause he die"!

Flip flopping fags

>>84997468
is the tone being criticized because it's too dark or too light?

>>85002230
He was good
just not a good joker

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>Twitter reactions

Is this really what we've resorted to? Any actual critic under the embargo isn't going to say anything so all you're reading is shit from people trying to get hits on their Twitter/Youtube pages.

>>85002243
Seems we will have to consult twitter on the matter

>>85002376
people are desperate because this is their chance to prove that the DCEU can be good without Snyder

>>85002230
I've loved him since the first trailer, faggot.
https://youtu.be/aT7lVb1VfH4

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>>84997468

Hi Marvel friend, wasn't Civil War good enough for you, oh right.

>>85002490
>not since the first teaser
you cannot even begin to be on my level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRCwnLrrxyQ

>>85002230
If it makes you more comfortable I stand firm in my belief that it wasn't a particularly good Joker or performance. And that Heath Ledger was not a particularly talented actor in general.

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>>85002511
>IGN

>>85002511
> - Zemo

Yeah go fuck yourself.

>>84997592
I'm not entirely sold on Leto's Joker from what we seen cause he seems like a mobster who just likes torturing people.

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>>85002554
>not since the first teaser image

Literal pleb.

>>84997592
>nothing like comics Joker.
Who gives a fuck? If you want comic accurate watch a shitty fan-film.

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>>84997468
>pacing and tone being criticized

>>85002593
>>85002619

I'm sure Dr. Strange will be better.

>>85002653
More drug dealer I think, or just common thug really, nothing really speaks to him being an actual rival to Bats in any way.

>>85002706
He's pretty obviously obsessed with Batman.

>>85002706
I just can't see this Joker being that threatening. I mean, I don't see how he could be one to cause mass panic outside him telling goons to "Shoot that guy"

>>85002584
Pls explain in detail what you didn't like about him. I'm curious.

As for Leto Joker I was starting to warm up to the look but after hearing him I'm really put off. Voice and laugh are all wrong. Really I'm not excited for this movie at all anymore after watching the clips that came out recently.

>>85002737
So is Kevin Smith, that doesn't make him a good foil.

>>84997468
So, another DC Thor-tier movie which will make money, but also crushed by critics and not loved by casuals and actual comic readers?

>>85002619
zemo was unnecessary

>>85002865

No need to project Marvel friend!

>>85002901
He was the driving force behind the entire movie...

>>85002996
Not the entire movie, but he had purpose to be there.

>>85002802
>not wanting to see Kevin Smith pull a Silent Bob version of the Joker
> silent the entire movie and had people speaking for him
> right at the end he gives off the best Joker laugh ever

>>85002904
Dude, I'd trade lifes and souls of everyone of this thread for SS being good. I want muh superior DC universe to be successful. But from OP's word it looks like SS is generic cringe GotG rip-off

>>85002996
Meh they would have been after Bucky regardless. The whole movie was just a mess really

>>85003126
no they wouldn't because no one would've blown up the UN

>>85003187
he was still a dangerous assassin

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>>85003111

Except, you know the OP is full of shit right? Go ahead and try find these negative comments, anything by Faraci of course not counting.

>>85003227
that no one knows exists other than Steve, Natasha, and Tony

>>85003276
Nah people knew about him after the SHIELD/HYDRA info dump, but nobody knew where he was or literally anything about how to find him before Zemo bukkake'd his keikkaku all over everyone in the UN.

>>85002784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSc6E4yG9s

It's basically a prolonged "anarchist" Tom Waits impression. I can't see anything else really.

I accept this is a Nolan/ grittier Batman franchise in general but overall there's a lack of enjoyment in himself or narcissism I think is present in most interpretations of the Joker that this misses. And forget everything else that isn't "muh Joker" but I think that is an important component to his personality that this missed entirely.

And overall I Heath Ledger has been an actor that occasionally chose pretty good roles instead of being a pretty good actor. Kind of like Keanu Reeves. I think a few movies he's in are unquestionably good, I like them, the Dark Knight was enjoyable, it's not really because of him though. Chances are that role could have been filled by anyone and been just as good if not a bit better.

>>85003255
Someone said Faraci it.

>>85003406
liked*

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Is CIA in Suicide Squad?

If he is, I am going to see it.

>>85003378
> I like them, the Dark Knight was enjoyable, it's not really because of him though
Are you kidding? He made that movie. Baleman and the other characters like the rushed development of Two-Face were only interesting because of him.

>>85003378
Hmm I suppose the lack of narcissism is a fair point. Joker usually is kinda full of himself.

I think Ledger Joker was heavily inspired by the killing joke argument, I mean they did the whole "Deep down everyone is just like me and I'll prove it" thing. Also visually he obviously looks allot like Azzerellos Joker.

I thought it was interesting that Hamill said he felt like TDK took the BTAS Batman/Joker relationship and flipped it around. He did enjoy it though.

>>85003378
I disagree. I agree with the fact that I don't think he is a good Joker, but his acting in TDK is amazing knowing what Heath Ledger is like in his other roles, I only realized this when I rewatched a clip from TDK and noticed that you couldn't tell it was Heath Ledger but a character with a life of his own.

>>85003645
The only scene I really liked was the nurse scene. And even that like I said before I think almost anyone could have done it. Mostly script, direction, and finding the best possible takes rather than anything he brought to the table.
>>85003724
>I only realized this when I rewatched a clip from TDK and noticed that you couldn't tell it was Heath Ledger but a character with a life of his own.

>a character with a life of his own.

Like I said and provided reference for not even remotely. It's psychotic Tom Waits.
He, in my opinion, brought almost nothing original to that role. And if he hadn't died before the movies release people would have called him out on his bullshit. But instead he gets a posthumous Academy Award. I can't think of the name of the movie but it was his last one and because he died Colin Farrell and Johnny Depp replaced him in a few scenes. The difference in quality of the performance is glaring.

I'm not saying you guys are wrong and I'm right. or your opinions are shit. I just don't think he brought much if anything to the role or any role he's had. He's competent enough to have been put in movies. He's never impressed me.

>>84997468
>pacing
Has been and always will be a shit criticism.
The only movie you could argue the pacing is atrocious or unbearable is some arthouse crap like The Limits of Control.
>tone
Come on, now you gotta be joking

It looks fun. I hope it remains true to the style of humorous hyper violence and action scenes. If that happens, I have no problem with the story being shit.

>>85002802
How can you determine whether or not he is a good foil for Batfleck when you've yet to see them interact?

>>85002781
I am hopeful for this joker but now that you mention it your right.
Previous jokers i could imagine walking into a gang hideout and walking out unmolested.

Here he seems like he might not comand that same respect.

>>85004312
>The only movie you could argue the pacing is atrocious or unbearable is some arthouse crap like The Limits of Control.
Or Batman v Superman.

>>85004136
The nurse scene was pretty good.
What did you think of his laugh.

>>84997468
>Pacing
This must be Ayer's first work with this problem not even Sabotage, his worst work has a pacing's problem. Anyways, I'm sure this one will have a problem about the tone and some questionable writing, it has always been that way with Ayer.

>>85000863
>Eisenberge's performance
That's not a problem, it was the script that is the problem.

>>85007667
Eisenberg was dreadful.

>>85002376
Well, Critics these day are not that much different especially when these day you have a "professional critic" like Faraci...might as well trust these twitter reaction.

>>85007667
Eisenberg overacted the part to death. Every part with him was excruciating

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>Joker looks like a cold opening Marvel villain

> JOKER

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

>>84997651
I'll bite that bait
https://youtu.be/taLO2yKqxRg

>>85007667
It was a miscast. Of course direction had a hand in it too, Jesse still wast right for the role

I'm not sure, I think it could get Deadpool-tier reception. 80% on RT, 60 Metacritic, very short of 1 billion on the box office.

>>85000863
I thought Eisenberg was the only decent part of the film. He's the only one who seemed to get what type of movie he was in.

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>>85005405
This Joker went up against this fucking Batman and only managed to get away with some broken Teeth.

I really hope this Joker has Joker Toxin. Also Im curious about the Gotham underworld considering this version gives a shit about organized crime; like do Penguin and Black Mask exist? Has Batman faced weirder shit like Clayface? We know hes tangled with Croc at least

>>85007848
It was meant to be overacted it was a stupid characterisation but he fucking nailed it.

>>85008366
They would not have a joker without joker toxin that would be insane.
Well synder might have done it but we are free from him now.

>>84997468
>Tracking for the opening day also dropped from $125 million to $115 million.
Source? I'm still seeing 115-125.

I feel like no one likes DC outside of batman in this day and age.

>>85009656
Considering the popularity of Flash and Arrow ? nah dude

>>84997592

Yea either that or maybe he's just bad but that's impossible right?

>>85009656
>>85009711
Not to mention Rebirth is kicking Marvels Civil War 2 This Time It's Personal ass in sales and critical reception.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=216&v=0dx4wD4TTyk
some guy made this and i dunno if its accurate or not

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>Pacing
Fug, don't tell me it's another BvS where they cut out 1/5 of the movie and we have to wait for an ultim8 edition.

>>85009297
KEK

>>85009991
I feel like maybe Snyder just needs to learn to make shorter movies. The only three and a half hour movie I've ever willingly sat through was Return of the King, and that was because the previous two movies had earned my trust.

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>>84997468
>pacing and tone being criticized
>pacing

Why the fuck is this such a common problem with DCEU films? This is EXACTLY what happened with BvS. We had glowing early buzz left and right, and then slowly but surely whispers started to form about issues with pacing and editing. And now that's happening here.

Nice made up narrative, marvel shill.
>twitter
links?

>>85009847
That's only because DC retreated back to pandering towards the ever dwindling core base of Comic Book readers (which who can blame them) while Marvel is still trying in vain to court new readers in a ham-fisted manner.

Floppies are a dying format and only by retreating to your corner and awaiting your slow inevitable death will guarantee decent sales, even then Rebirth may be much like the Nu52, big buzz at the start then things die off back to pre-reboot numbers. It's DC's version of Marvel's Events.

>>85002511
What does Marvel have to do with this? Why do people do this? Bring Marvel into discussion when theres no mention of it around.

>>85002693
Civil War was decent tho....and Dr. Strange being better mean it'll be GREAT...

>>85010466
Inferiority complex. Just hide those types of post.

>>85010340
>That's only because DC retreated back to pandering towards the ever dwindling core base of Comic Book readers
You mean, they are pandering to the people that actually read stuff ? also if comic shop buzz means anything than GA is doing great

>>84997545
Why are you so proud of being a geek? Knowing useless facts about fictional characters is not a good thing.

2 words guys: Will Smith. It's dead on arrival.

>>85010568
It really doesn't mean anything when you're a dying format. Don't mean to sound like "sour grapes", but it's a fact. DC just keeps hitting the reset button while Marvel tries to court new readers and maintain an ongoing continuity (with very mixed results). One is trying to save the industry (Marvel - as assbackwardsly as possible) and one is resigned letting it die (DC - because honestly there's really no saving it).

I respect Marvel for fighting to save the medium, but I understand why DC is doing what they're doing. All in all though, I want something I'll be able to read years from now and I might get a few bits from Marvel now and then while even the greatest stuff DC is putting out now has already been done better by DC at least once before (wish Marvel had learned that lesson with Civil War 2 not that I'd honestly recommend reading either).

Pretending either of the Big 2 is doing anything right is somewhat of a joke since they're both failing in their own way and anything they're doing right won't matter in any long term or significant manner.

Flash cameo confirmed, but Ezra wasn't there for the shoot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_qLrUYFXP0

>>85008177
A bad one?

>>85011027
>DC just keeps hitting the reset button
But Rebirth was not a reset, so i don't see your logic in that, you literally don't know what you are talking about

>>85011027
>Marvel is trying to save the medium
They are literally doing the exact opposite

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>>84997651
Except Abomination.

>>85011027
>Marvel tries to court new readers and maintain an ongoing continuity
>maintain an ongoing continuity
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>85011027
>Marvel
>trying to save the industry
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Marvel's shitty practices are going to crash the industry again.
>tonnes of incentive based variants
>re-launch after re-launch
>upping the price
>letting the MCU drive what happens in the comics
>constant pandering
shill harder mouseketeer

>>85011180
>>85011240
>>85011862
Sigh, it's Nu52 all over again, when the buzz wears off you'll be back to the same old excuses and defense mechanisms. Guess I can't blame you for wanting to think things aren't how they are.

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>>85011713
>ifunny
>@mutant101

>>85012157
> shill
> mouseketeer

obvious bias detected.
opinion disregarded.

>>85012179
Except if you've actually been since before the New-52 you'd know that there wasn't really any buzz from actual DC readers. Why would we have been happy about losing all that history and getting it replaced by edgy versions?

Rebirth is literally an un/anti-reboot since it's folds both pre and post Flashpoint into a single continuity while at the same time bringing back the aspects of characters that people loved.

Fans are loving Rebirth. Critics are loving Rebirth. LCS are loving Rebirth. and it's bringing in new readers.

>>85012179
Nah, you just don't know what you are talking about
>>85012157
and you should read what this anon said

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>>84997592
>>85000323
Now now children, we all know that Cesar Romero was the best Joker.

>>85012318
>obvious bias detected
Says the faggot that unironically thinks that Marvel is trying to save the industry and is putting out good comics. besides Vision

Hope those mousebucks are worth it.

>>85012296
>triggered because normies remember TIH and think Doomsday is a ripoff of Abomination.

>>85000323
Heath's Joker was an autistic edge lord.

>>85012360
>>85012406
>>85012481
It's clear you're trying to paint this as something grander than what it is. Everytime something new comes along for DC you always trump it up as "it'll be different this time" and that every instance in the past obviously proves this or corroborates this. I just get so tired of watching you guys try and hype up one new DC gimmick after another.

Hey, I'll admit Marvel's current comic book direction is dissapointing, but I at least respect them trying to court new readers even if it means their stuff is suffering. Either way, no matter what DC does, you'll try and find some excuse to be an apologist for it and whatever Marvel does, you'll find some reason to shit on it. Simple as that.

>>85012478
Funny thing is there has yet to be a bad live action Joker. Every Joker from Romero to Ledger worked for that universe

>>85013298
>new DC gimmick after another.
Man this is some good bait, and the other company is not getting any new readers by doing this changes, it may have worked with kamala but doing with classic characters like the hulk and Tony ? people don't want that

>>85013745
I'm not defending it as a success, just admiral to a degree. Probably would help if they had different people running the comics division, but in the end neither of the Big 2 is that terribly well managed.

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>>84997592
how is heaths joker not like comic book joker?? srs

>>84997468

>tone criticized

I was expecting as much, since I remember they delayed the release to re-shoot more comedic scenes, since the original trailer had pretty much all the jokes and the movie was overall more serious.

>>85010197
Wasn't Watchmen and BVS his only long movies though? Unlike Micheal Bay who makes every movie no matter what it's about 3 hours

>>85014107
> No negativity allowed! This is a safe place!

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>>85014012
mods removed my post calling u on on the fact that the reshoots are for action not humor....

MODS ARE fucking marvel shills

>>84997545
I've heard that it's really, really fucking stupid.

So, yeah, BvS fags are going to spin it that way because they don't understand film.

>>84997619
Apparently Will is far and away the best part of the movie.

Also I'd go much lower than that on the box office. I don't see this reaching Guardians success.

>>85014012
You've already been proved wrong on that one, just let it go Rich.

>>85015090
If the op is correct maybe they really didn't add humor and thus why people aren't too thrilled with the tone? Not too sure that's a good or bad thing.

>>85000608
I can see this happening. Ghosbusters showed us that narrative matters more than actual reviews to RT, and the narrative that Hollywood wants is that Marvel is the best thing ever.

>>85002619
>Marvel
>villains

pick one. Movie Zemo was as much Zemo as a cloud was Galactus

>>85015785
what gets me is that MoS and Ghostbusters are only 0.3 points away from each other in average score, but their tomatometers are miles apart

>>85002996
The driving force was that they needed an excuse for Hero vs Hero shit

>>85015851
You knows how RT work...are you?

>>85007925
>marvel
>villains

my sides are in orbit

>>85015944
in a way that in no way represents the actual quality of a movie?

>>85009656
I love this Mousketeer meme.

>>85015944
You know how the English language works, don't you?

>>84997468
The DCEU is dead. What a great time to be a marvel fan.

>>85009711
And all the Marvel shows are dead or dying on TV.

>>85010203
Disney paid shills

>>84997468
>tone

Yeah. This is the category that always going to yield skepticism from me whenever someone praised this film. Throw a few jokes in and casuals will rave, even if the quality of the humor is garbage, so if a certain type of person praises it, it could be a very bad thing. Are they saying that it's too funny or not funny enough?

Definitely want it to be the later. Every joke I've seen from the film has been intensely cringey and make it seem like Ayer was trying to be something he's not. I can ignore them, though, as long as they're in short supply. All I want is an espionage or political thriller movie but with supervillains.

>>85011180
Disniggers like to push the meme that DC reboots every year or some shit since they don't read comics.

>>84997468
>Divisive like Man of Steel and BvS
So it'll be shit, people will hate it and a handful of retards will fight to the death to defend it?

>>85012157
>I respect Marvel for fighting to save the medium
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Marvel is the reason comics are dying. They are almost singehandedly responsible for crashing the industry last time, and they're doing the same shit now that they have the Mouse's pocketbook to bail them out when they crash it again.

They are the reason Diamond is the only way comics get sold.

>>85015988
Kinda, it's just a compilation of an opinion of so called 'professional critics' afterall. It basically just an opinion.

>>85016010
Well, I'm ESL.

>>84997468
>Overall, it's shaping up to be as divisive as Man of Steel and Batman V Superman.
Those movies aren't decisive, they're overwhelmingly criticized and the only 'divisive' faction is a vocal minority of drones.

>>85016084
I am more amused by the retards who missed the part where OP says Twitter, not to mention nobody bothers to ask for a link. But Mouseketeers are kinda desperate now I guess

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>>85016135
>They are the reason Diamond is the only way comics get sold.
Explain in greater detail.

>>85013298
>court new readers

Nigs and vaginas don't read comics.

>>85016188
>>85016164
>>85016084
>Twitter
> no link
>look it up on twitter
>One random guy says he liked it

Why does this thread still exist?

>>85014012
>since the original trailer had pretty much all the jokes

Oh did you see the movie before the reshoots? Or did you pull that put if your ass?

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>>85016247
After

>>85015090
Everybody knows it. /co/'s mods are vicious SJWs and SJWs love Marvel.

>>85016204
Marvel thought they could do direct distribution during the speculator boom, but failed at it horribly and dragged down other distributors and comic stores with them until only Diamond and Diamond stores were left

>>85016188
Hmm? But he's right about MoS as a divisive one, BvS is in a very negative faction though.

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>>85016247
>>85016260

>>85016247
>>85016260
>Twitter
>One random guy

Again why do we care? Or is it Marveldrone/TV/ faggotry again?

>>85016263
So /co/ is Basically Neogaf now but replace Sony with Marvel?

>>85015851
The way RT works is that you get a positive or negative score based on a numerical rating (I think a positive is over 70?)

So if one person thinks a movie is a 100% and another thinks it's a 69, then that movie has a 50%. If two people think a movie is a 70%, that movie has a 100% and is Certified Fresh. So more people thought Ghostbusters was mediocre than thought BvS was good.

What's more suspect is that Ghostbusters 2016 is Certified Fresh with a 73%, despite a Certified Fresh score being over 76%.

>>85016011
Especially if you don't read comics, like all Marvel fans.

>>85016344
Yes, basically. Right down to drones defending censorship

>>85016417
It's 60+ for positive rating, 75%+ for certified fresh.
Maybe they had a pending negative or something that confused the formula for a bit or something?
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/about/

>>85016084
>MoS and BvS are bad

lol
Are you retarded?

>>85016544
Right. So three 6/10s = 100%.

I think they also assign a score to reviews if you don't give one, too.

>>85013943
He is. Lee Bermejo and Brian Azzarello's Joker.

>>85002230
I liked Heath's performance but he was not really playing the Joker. He was just a radical anarchist that wore clown makeup.

>>85016247
>>85016260
So what? The movie was good until it got torn to shreds in editing?

>>85016809
oh I haven't read that, could you characterize that book's depiction of him?

>>85002781
Really? Because that one scene of him interrogating a guy made him look pretty intimidating.

>>85016977
Looks like Ledger's joker but a bit more fucked up.
For instance, he's a rapist.

>>85016977
He looks and acts like a cross between Ledger's and Hamill's Jokers but WAY more fucked up. For example: He skins a man alive for having Harley as a stripper, forces a bank president to masturbate to a picture of his daughter, and rapes a woman.

>>85017286
>>85017204
jesus.... "a bit"

sounds horrible and nothing like how joker is usually depicted, I guess I got to read it to see how it holds up

>>85017442
He's still funny. Kinda.

>>85008056
my nigger

>>85009482
Nolan did it

>>85018024
FUCK
Im scared /co/

>>85016809
I don't understand how you can look at Heath's Joker and not immediately think "Killing Joke." How many times did Heath paraphrase the "one bad day" quote?

>>85017286
>forces a bank president to masturbate to a picture of his daughter, and rapes a woman.
Bullshit.

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>>85016247
>>85016260
>its too dark and mean-spirited they said
>it needs more "fun" they said

I wish WB would distinguish between legitimate critics and Marvel nu-male cuck opinions.

>>85018860
Its more a 1 extreme or the other thing.
Im worried there going to remove all jokers tattos instead of just the damaged that auctualy bothers people.

>>85016021
at least they're not whatever Arrow is supposed to be

>>85018896
>garbage like Arrow is still able to outperform Marlel shows
>"I...it's better that our shows fail than succeed...."

topkek

>>85016021

define tv

Agents of SHIT has been bad from the beginning and Agent Carter was fine but didn't get an audience sure, but the Netflix shows are neither dead or dying

>>85018907
>garbage like Arrow is still able to outperform Marlel shows
in being shit?

>>85016633
>MoS and BvS are good

He may be retarded, but not as big a retard as you

>>85010820
I don't see why.

>>85018928
>Define T.V.

Are you stupid?

>>85018126
Well he definitely raped a woman, not sure about the bank president thing, they might be remembering that wrong.

>>85019010
People are convinced he is going to hog the screen.

>>85019284
But Harley and Joker will do that.

>>85019337
It'll be a fight between them to hog the most screentime and thus the plot will be jumbled and nonsensical, well already seems like it with the whole recruiting the worst of the worst and expecting them not to stab you in the back.

>>85018971
meme

https://twitter.com/keemiemillz/status/759557823919431680

Credits scene

>>85019918
based batfleck

>>85019918
As if there was any doubt that Batman is Tony Fury.

>>85019918
>Suicide Squad was lit

I don't speak nig. Somebody translate.

>>85020060

lit up light a bright light, beaming

dude thought it was good

>>85019918
Man, I'm glad there aren't any niggers in my country who yell and scream at the cinema like that.

>>85019918

Blacks will scream uproariously over anything, anon.

>>84997608
>>85002188
>>85010769
>>85015212
>All these faggots getting triggered from the get go

top kek

>>84997651
that was actually a decent film, and i think the mcu is mostly shit, but it was not to bad

>>85020731

I don't know if you've read the thread, but both sides seem pretty triggered.

>>85020823
i glazed over it, most of what i saw was someone insinuating Marvel was somehow saving the comic industry rather then destroying it.

>>85016011
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can still be a Marvel FAN. I guess the movie's are pretty cool but they've published total trash for years

>>85016979
I still just see him as some mobster instead of the clown prince of crime.

My prediction:
>40-60% on rotten tomatoes
Complaints from everyone will be:
>not muh Harley
>The movie is sexist
>the movie is racist
>Not muh Joker
>Rick Flagg will be hated
>too much fun
>le hot topic maymay
>stupid tattoos
>Not muh cgi Killer Croc
>Deadshot will be a 50/50 to the viewers
>fuck Zack Snyder
>fuck David Ayer
>shitty music
>lack of Slipknot

>>84997468
>What are your thoughts, /co/?
I really like that poster.

I might see it if some friend takes the initiative and asks if I want to check it out.

>>85021488
>Rick Flagg will be hated
I had hope for him until that terrible THIS IS KATANA plane scene.

>5 days left


Can't wait for the meltdowns once it gets a rotten score and bombs at the BO

>>85008242
Fucking christ did they airbrush out his neck?

>>85021717
What if the opposite happens? Just curious.

>>85022156
Then /tv/ will hate it

>>85022262
/tv/ hates it now

Will they hate it even harder?

>>85021701
kek i love this meme

>hi this is katana
CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE LOLOLOL XD.

>>85008177
A shitty one made for cringy fans that like all their villains to be Joker tier edgy?

>>85014012
From the sounds of it, it seems they did the reshoots for action.

So the movie's tone is the same as it was.

Maybe they should have made reshoots for comedy, apparently. It stayed shitty.

>>84997849
The HT audience is 30-somethings now who download everything and pay for bootleg merch from shitty fan art t-shirt sites while living at home.

I see $500 million to maybe $600 million being about right for this. Frontloaded, staves off dying because what the fuck else is coming out in August after it? Pete's Dragon isn't going to do it.. or Kubo.. or Ben Hur or Mechanic 2.

Guardians was a phenomenon connecting with the audience to keep it going. TMNT knocked it down its opening week after 2 weeks of #1 and GotG rose to fight back to first place and keep going well through September.

This is more ASM where there was no real competition for weeks when GI Joe Retaliation delayed 9 months and so we got another shitty ASM movie out of that franchise.

>>85016247
So basically he was either shilling in may, and DC stopped paying him, or the movie was literally depressed Avengers go to hot topic and he liked it. Then they edited it to be fun and fucked up, like always

>>85007617
>This must be Ayer's first work with this problem not even Sabotage, his worst work has a pacing's problem.
The reshoots and WB affecting the editing of the movie after the BvS reaction probably did a lot of it.

>Twitter

Stay desperate, Marvel fags

>>85016417
>What's more suspect is that Ghostbusters 2016 is Certified Fresh with a 73%, despite a Certified Fresh score being over 76%.
They slapped the Certified Fresh on pretty early when it was stil above 75%. Reality dragged it down the rest of the weekend making them look stupid for it.

>>85018907
>AoS gets better every season
>Arro and Flash only get worse

Tell me more about how you prefer Olicity and more speedsters better than Inhumans and Ghost Rider.

What the fuck is it with WB trying to make their films divisive? I thought MOS and BVS showed that people don't like that.

>>85023031
Remember when DC used fake twitter posts in their promotional clips for BvS?

you know what fuck off /tv/ i'm going to watch suicide squad and i'm gonna like it. just try and stop me.

>>85023122
I don't think they are trying to do that. They are just shit at understanding what comic books and superheroes are about.

They think teenagers want dark and broody, and when that failed, they tried adding more jokes, and it clashes and shows they don't have a sense of humor.

Nolan has been the only saving grace of DC as of late. And still TDKR was questionable as fuck.

>>85023095
>>AoS gets better every season
This meme again...

>>85023187
>deciding he's gonna like the movie before watching it

You see /co/? This is the problem. It either results in extreme and annoying fanboyism, or in extreme disappointment. Stop being like this.

>>85023224
>Le meme

Nice argument there brah

>>85023227
NEVER

>>85023194
I know this means fuck all to you but Ayer has denied adding more jokes

and Faraci was proven wrong when he said the Queen trailer had all the jokes

>>85023348
Dude, we have seen the clips. They are filled with cringe worthy humor.

Either Ayer added from the start, or they added them later. Whichever, Ayer failed at comedy.

>>85023227
Deciding you're gonna hate the movie preemptively is the same shit.

>>85023194
>Nolan is the only saving grace
Nolan ruined capeshit

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>>85001706
Get cancer, contemplate suicide. The usual.

>>85008056
the editing in this sequence is so bad

>>85021215
But that what the Joker was in BTAS, a mobster. Sure, he did more than just that but at his heart he was a mobster.

>>85021717
No chance of it bombing opening weekend. Many theaters in my area are already booked, and the last big release this summer was Finding Dory a few weeks ago.

>>85019918
Why is Bruce Wayne talking to Waller instead of Batman?

What kind of purpose does this detail serve? Why does Waller know who Batman is?

This is weird.

>>85028893
A Waller who doesn't know who Batman is isn't a very good Waller at all

>>85028893
>Why does Waller know who Batman is?
At this point, everyone and their mother knows who everyone is. Snyder has decreed secret identities to be fucking stupid, and so it is written, so it shall be.

>>85028923
If she was going to appear in many more movies, but the current DC slate won't even have more than one phase. It just adds a weird complication in that Batman is known to some.

Which is odd and unnecessary. It would be a good time to show him in costume being Batman to drive further the idea that he's been doing it for a while and that Batman is the real person and not the mask.

I dunno, seems weird and wasteful in a way.

>>85028977
>in that Batman is known to some.
Who isn't he known to at this point? I'm sure fucking perry white knows at this point bruce is batman.

>>85028977
>implying Waller won't show up in Justice League 2 to try and enforce regulation on them

>>85021488
>Not muh cgi Killer Croc

I dont have a problem with the croc they have, but if he was like he is in the Arkham games, that wouldve added some cool action

>>84997468
>Overall, it's shaping up to be as divisive as Man of Steel and Batman V Superman
i dont think itll be as bad as BvS but itll be better then MoS

i just hope it doesn't ruin anything

>>85029003
Which would work better if she didn't know who batman was, and they could use that to their advantage, which is usually how the JL deals with that kind of stuff.

But hey, if it means less Batwank, I'm all for it.

>>85029036
>implying
https://youtu.be/ruwIBT-noAs?t=1m15s

https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/4vf886/out_from_the_ss_screening_spoiling_no_silly/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/4vgc28/i_hated_bvs_and_just_saw_suicide_squad/

>>85029008
Ayer said he originally planned to have King Shark, but wasn't comfortable yet to have a full CGI character. So he went with practical Croc. I don't mind, I think the makeup on him looks pretty great and it's rare these days to see practical makeup like that.

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>>85003480

>>85029242
Less CGI for people to whine about.

>>85029203
http://prnt.sc/bztat6

>>85029580
You're misinterpreting what he said. There's 2 scenes of Batman, 1 dream sequence with Batman and one scene with Bruce Wayne. Not that there's 2 Batman scenes and that's it.

>>85021488
according to the subreddit, WB cut some Joker Scenes.

>>85030353

got to have some content for that ultimate cut since bvs ultimate cut sold gangbusters

>>85030226
Are you for or against this movie?

>>85003406
>>85003441
Not buying it. Faraci always stays with the "shit sux" prediction. You're less likely to eat your words with that. Atleast when it turns out the movie won't suck, you can always fall back to "That's not the version I watched!"

>>85030495
They even removed the Harley motorcycle/gun point at Joker scene. Even made Harley Quinn jump to the chemical pit without being pushed.

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>>85030226

>Expecting someone with the username "DCEUskwad" to say something negative

Bruh...

>>84997468
These people didn't have to pay a god damn cent to see this movie. What is their investment exactly?

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Pacing seems to be a common complaint, based on the comments from early screeners.

>>85008366
The iceberg lounge is in the DCEU, at least they've planned for it

>>85030700
Ayer cut when

>>85030700
Only pacing issues I've heard of is the first 20 minutes where they introduce the characters. After that it's a pretty standard movie.

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>>85030700

>>85030700

I'm fine with it playing it safe, it looks like it has more than enough flavour to carry it for me

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>muh the credits scene is lame
>but why?
>muh I don't know. It's just lame.

Never changes, /co/

>>85030700
>>85030927
what the fuck is going on with the editor? Are they purposely doing this to shill physical copies?

I don't get why they cut all those Joker scenes. He's obsessed with Batman, not with saving Harley Quinn from wherever the fuck she's imprisoned.

>>85031045
Warner polices. BvS Ultimate Edition is a top seller.

>>85031049

These are the people who cut the communion scene then panic released it one day after bvs hit theaters

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well then

>>85031049
Joker probably doesn't want to fuck with Batman anymore since he started branding people. Can't have anymore fun you end up being dead.

>>85031200
This sounds bad

>>85031147
they're dumb as fuck, it makes no sense to make joker/harley kid friendly.

>>85031200

thought twitter would be lit with this

>>85031500
Too bad they did make Joker kid friendly, because of how ~WACKY~ he and Harley are.

>>85016263
Which is odd because you think SJWs would love this movie.

>Deadshot is black
>Black woman character in charge
>Harley Quinn don't need no Joker
>Asian girl
>Hispanic guy
>Man with skin deformaty.

Is this not diverse enough for SJWs?

>>85031544
That's what bugs me. It's not supposed to be a shipperfag's wet dream that pisses on the characters. They cut the scene where he slaps her to tone it down and make it le edgy mad love story xD

I still want to watch it but this irks me so much.

>>85031123
It is? How fucking stupid are people. Wasn't the digital release enough to show it's not worth the money?

>>85031607
DC has far more diversity than Marvel in pretty much every medium, they just don't pat themselves on the back for it and bang the drums every time they bring one out. Tumblr and their ilk are huge faggots who will gobble up whatever is marketed to them (see: their love for Hunger Games when it was in fashion, HP, the MCU, etc), so they're Marvel diehards thanks to good old fashioned Disney marketing and brand power, cognitive dissonance be damned.

>>85031607
>>Harley Quinn don't need no Joker
Didn't they spoil that it's not true?

>>85030700
>ayers
>bad pacing

>>85032013
Nothing to do with Ayer
Welcoke to WB

>>85031200

It was pushed back by 12 hours so reviews come out at midnight, seems weird

>>85032045
Wouldn't it be a little of both? Executives demand perhaps a shorter runtime and Ayer can't manage to fit it properly in there, like BvS I suppose, though that may be more to do with cramming in too much random shit for little reason.

>>85032153
Sounds like bad news is afoot. /co/ will be uninhabitable for a couple weeks.

>>85032164

Studio heads have their own people that go in to shave films but they had already seen the response to BvS so who knows.

>>85031200
Mark Hughes from Forbes is saying it's still Tuesday at 9am. So, someone is lying.

>no china release

huh, thought that would be bigger news considering what happened with ghostbusters

if WB was as concerned as they were with bvs they'd have done everything they could to secure a day and date release so they'd have a huge opening worldwide number to dominate the news like bvs had, over $500m

>>85032013
Watch one of his bad movies like Sabotage or End of Watch and it's pretty obvious

>>85032392
>End of Watch
>bad

m8

>>85032487
At least he is open about his bias...

>>85002418
Why would anyone be desperate, unless they were a WB executive?

>>85032487
Why is he so salty though?

>>85032487

mark hughs just said it's unchanged

>>85032424
It sucks. Just more found footage bullshit with ridiculous characters doing shit that would never happen in real life (Jake fighting that nigger in exchange for not arresting him)

>>85032487
>https://twitter.com/markhughesfilms/status/759882910572830720

>>85032487
>this person is considered a (((professional critic)))
>literally trying to stir shit up and showing a bias

>>85031200
>>85032334
THE GREATEST GLADIATOR MATCH IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD

>>85031500
>>85031544
casual alert

>>85032829
>Rene Rodriguez @ReneMiamiHerald
>I messed up. #SuicideSquad review embargo remains unchanged Tuesday 9 pm PST. I read the original embargo wrong. Apologies.
https://twitter.com/ReneMiamiHerald/status/759886817927716866

HAHAHAHAHA

>>85032933

well, if the dceu gives us anything it's drama

>>85032933
What a total faggot. And he basically broke the embargo by showing his hand in the thread talking to those people.

>>85032933
lol what a fucking queer

>>85032933
>you-played-yourself.jpg

>>85032392
Sabotage was a bad movie and the pacing is fine.

Try studying film instead of just saying random film related words that you don't understand

>>85033664
"The pacing was bad" is probably the dumbest fucking catch-all meaningless criticism in existence and pretty much any time I hear it brought up (especially on this board) it's meant exclusively to pad out a critical argument.

It's literally the film analysis equivalent of shitty Freshman college papers that start with "Iraq is a land of contrasts." or "Webster's defines hope as..."

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>>85021717

>>85033734
People should just be honest and say "I was bored during parts of it."

>>85033849
Wow...even YTposters are BTFOing /tv/...this is getting uber sad.

>>85033849
If it weren't for the names included I would think this post is about BvS.

>>85033955
I'd say that Suicide Squad has even broader appeal for normalfags. Shit, my mother wants to go see it for Leto because she's wet for him (they're the same age) and my sister just loves the Harley look despite not knowing shit about comics.

>>85034006
>anything having broader appeal than Superman and Batman
How the mighty have fallen?

>>85032829
Same shit with gaming jornos these days too!

>>84997468
Suicide Squad seems like a terrible movie to follow up MoS and BvS with.
Shouldn't they have waited until after Wonder Woman and Flash or something to do it?
If not just have it take place after the Batman movie, though I am guessing they want to take the reverse route and have Suicide Squad lead into Batman instead.

No matter though, MoS and BvS were incredibly bleak and grim movies. And they've just shat out one after the other without anything in between at this point.

Now I am not saying everything has got to be like Marvel. But for all their similarities, Marvel's movies have still been handled quite differently from each other.
You've got visually colourful movies with lots of fantasy/sci-fi and adventure in Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor's movies.
Then you've got Captain America's that are admittedly a lot more visually bleak than the other movies, yet they are about striving for hope in a world that doesn't have much of it. Staying thematically uplifting in the drama thrillers that are his movies.
Then you have movies like Ant-Man that was essentially a heist movie through and through.

They're both visually and thematically different from each other. But DC's movies have all been both visually and thematically bleak and drab.
You can have bleak and drab movies, you really can. But you grow incredibly tired of it when that's all you're getting. I can't even be assed to care about Suicide Squad anymore after MoS and BvS, even though I would have most likely seen it had the movies been released in a different order.

>>85034524
Only GOTG looks "visually different" from the others. Everything else is purely house style

>>85034566
GotG has a lot of colours. Perhaps not as much as Thor but a lot of it.
Compare GotG side by side with Captain America and it should be very apparent.

>>85034524
SS seems like a terrible movie period

>>85034566
eh, the first Avenger had some pretty top cinematography for a non-snyder blockbuster film

>>85034698
>pretty top cinematography

is this a joke?

>>85021977
That was for a Entertainment weekly I believe. The didn't want Affleck cover Font, so they made him shorter by erasing his neck.. yep..

>>84997468
OP , faggio can you read this >>84997522
>Early reactions on twitter are mixed to positive.
the movie is not in theaters - imdb.com :Coming Soon In theaters August 5 and you are talking about reactions.
Now, most of us know that this thread is part of the WB marketing campaign for the movie. All of the entertainment companies are bullshiting people on the internet these days.
So, about my thoughts.. Batman vs Superman was shit. 3 hours filled with boring cliches.the WB producers, they just destroyed the DC Universe, just to say that they look cool and can do it like Marvel. I don't know about this one. But I'm not going to watch it if you continue with the crappy internet advertisement. And tell to your fellows from the marketing trolling group that the "ganging" on this reply is not going to change my mind.

>>85034825
No? Its legitimately better than any MCU film before or after

>>85034910
is this what delusion looks like?

>>85034566
All of the phase 1 movies have distinct styles.

>>85032933
So it's pretty much a given that the critics are going to give anything that isn't a Marvel movie a bad score, right?

I mean they're already dying for anything to criticize about it.

>>85034060
Snyder is a as bad as Michael Bay without the mass appeal. His directorial style pisses people off.

>>85033664
>>85033734
>>85033872
Nice circle-jerk fags but complaints about pacing in DC movies are justified.

>>85034688
Marvelcucks sitting at their computers furiously shitposting through tears of impotent rage.

>"How dare anybody else insult muh Disney by making a movie! I... It's not fair!"

>>85034944
That cause Star Wars-fags (Snyder and guy that made First Avenger, Johnson if I remember correctly) are only who can direct action movies.

>>85034910
This thread is obviously filled with Disniggers though.

>>85002511
Fuck IGN. Civil War and Ultimate Cut where both great. But Deadpool is still greater them above.

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>>85000477
>I still have tickets for opening evening, I don't give a fuck.
Me too anon. I actually have 8. Got a big group going on Friday. Can't fucking wait.

>Looking forward to
Everything
>Not looking forward to
I'm hoping Smithshot and joker don't dominate the movie. Need boomer to shine!

>RT prediction
None. I always get these wrong by ~50%. I'm excited for it, so it will proabbly score 30% along with other movies I like.

>>85032933
9PM PST is still 12AM EST. Still, he shouldn't be biased towards one company.

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>>85035414
>Deadpool is better than Civil War

>>85035271
>Nice circle-jerk fags but complaints about pacing in DC movies are justified.
In DC movies, or in BvS? I didn't find the pacing in MOS untowards and certainly have no issue with the Nolan 3.